1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,239 Speaker 1: Seeing with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Okay, this morning, we've got Ned Brockman. We absolutely adore 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: this man back in the studio and we are joined 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: by year nine student Hugo Russell. Hugo is from Satahugustin's 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: on the Northern Beaches and you may have seen this 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: story a few weeks ago and we really wanted to 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: get to Hugo in now. 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 3: Hugo was the national champion at the twenty twenty three 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 3: Australian Cross Country Championships for the under fifteens multi class. However, 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: this year Hugo and other short statuted athletes were banned 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: from competing in events longer than four hundred meters. Hugo 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: and his Mumbleisha have been fighting for change. They want 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: to change this rule. And so we've got Hugo and 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: Ned Brockman in here to tell us a bit more. 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 4: Welcome to the studio, Boda had thanks for coming in, Hu, 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: awesome to have you here. I can only assume that 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: Ned has been a huge inspiration for you. 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's really inspirational, really inspirational person putting his body 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 5: on the line for a good cause. 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 4: As Yeah, as far as you your career goes Hugo, 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 4: you don't need to be completely mental and run and. 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: Smash your knees to pieces like ned broth. 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: Then take you look after your body a little bit 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: more than this man does. 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, but Hugo, your story is sensational because my understanding 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 4: is that you wanted to compete in the three k 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 4: cross country and who said no? 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 5: Tore you competing like school Sport Australia and Athletics Australia 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 5: said no. 30 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: So what happened from that moment onwards? 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 5: Well, I was going through the course and I got 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 5: to state and they said that I wasn't going to 33 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 5: be able to go to nationals when I came first 34 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 5: in the state level. 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: That's ridiculous the reasoning for those that are just catching 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 4: up on the story. 37 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 5: Because apparently my disability is unfit to run and unable 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 5: to run because it does something to our bodies which 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 5: I haven't been affected by. 40 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: Right, So as a short statued person, they were suggesting 41 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: that they were there were complications or dangers with you running. 42 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you'd proven that you can really well, it 43 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: must be incredibly frustrating. 44 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is pretty quite frustrating because it's the thing 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 5: that I really love and it was like taken away. 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 6: Ye the hell out of me. 47 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that, oh well this is this must 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: be something when you hear stories like this, Knit and 49 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: what you've done over the last few weeks and getting 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: people to take themselves out of their comfort zone. Obviously, 51 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: Hugo is to you know, to run in a race 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: that's very hard for him, but also to prove himself. 53 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: Then get told that he's knocked back ned. You must 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: have just been burning inside and thought, I need to 55 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: do something about this. 56 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's terrible. 57 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 6: We all should have the exact same opportunities as everyone. 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 6: So she did the Uncomfortable Challenge and that did three 59 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 6: k day for ten days. Amazing, And we came down 60 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 6: to Orgies his school, and saw all the boys getting 61 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 6: around him at the finish line. It was just I 62 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 6: saw that it was truly truly special. So very grateful 63 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 6: that he took part in the Uncomfortable Challenge. But I, 64 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 6: as I said, I've never been more by someone for 65 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 6: taking something on it and raising money as well. I 66 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 6: think Hugo beats everyone's fundraising by about one hundred and 67 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 6: twenty thousand dollars. Wow, raised one hundred and twenty eight thousand, 68 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 6: Is that right? 69 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? 70 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 6: It was incredible, mate, So yeah, I'm so inspired you. 71 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: I was going to say, you actually went and saw 72 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: Ned out at Home Bush when he was going for 73 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: the thousand miles. Weren't you What stage did you get 74 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: Ned at, Hugo? 75 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: Was he in a good mood at the time? I was, ya, 76 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: we saw someone that you don't tell it now. Do 77 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: you take inspiration though, Hugo? When you're doing those three k's, 78 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: do you think about need? 79 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? I thought like, how far he's running. He's doing 80 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 5: it for a good cause. And when I was running, I. 81 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 3: Was also, yeah, you were doing the same because from 82 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: what you've just said, then running generally has been something 83 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: that you really enjoy, you know, and then to have 84 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: people say that, oh, we're not quite sure whether we 85 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: can have you participate in this for X, Y and Z, 86 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: there must have been a different set of thoughts running 87 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: through your mind when you took on Ned's challenge because 88 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: you were running for a different reason. Do you know, 89 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: like I'm guessing you're always running for yourself, but then 90 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: because people have said you can't do it, did that 91 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: even that spur you on even more? 92 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, the three k's which I ran each day 93 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 5: was the length that I was told I can't run. 94 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: So I awesome. 95 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I tried to like prove them wrong that 96 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 5: I could do it. 97 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: Well you did? 98 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: You didn't try? 99 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: You did? I love that so much, so ned Now, 100 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: can we get behind this? I mean, is there a 101 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: chance that Hugo could run in the States? Can we 102 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: can we sign something? 103 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: I think there's a petition that so far has one thousand, 104 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 5: eight hundred signatures and trying to get more. 105 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: You to change dot org dot let Hugo run. 106 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 6: Perfect. 107 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck, mate. 108 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: We want to see you competing in the States and 109 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: doing really well. 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