Speaker 1: I just hope you know, marriage is a serious thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is actually a serious thing. And like, I hope
Speaker 1: you don't make any mistakes. Like I really pray and
Speaker 1: hope that you don't do anything to hurt Tammy.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to hurt Tammy. I have no intention
Speaker 2: of hurting Tommy.
Speaker 3: Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all
Speaker 3: things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between.
Speaker 2: This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,
Speaker 2: intimate details, advice, and much more. Welcome to Where's Your
Speaker 2: Head At. We're joined by my future sister in laws,
Speaker 2: Amy and Emily Hembro. Hey guys, hi, Hi, welcome to
Speaker 2: Where's Your Head At? Thank you for coming in and
Speaker 2: being a part of this.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having us, Thanks for having us.
Speaker 3: Okay, hey guys, look lovely. I will say, like, you're
Speaker 3: both looking stunning.
Speaker 4: Thank you. You guys really nice.
Speaker 5: I love the heart.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm hiding my freshly tattooed brows. That's why we've
Speaker 3: got the hat, and then that's hiding his I call
Speaker 3: it a pineapple cut right now, it's looking a little pineapples.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to grow up.
Speaker 3: Back. We're both hiding stuff. That's okay. You guys are
Speaker 3: how many siblings are there?
Speaker 1: There's seven of us seven, there's five girls and two boys.
Speaker 2: Well, we had your dad on so he had Amy, Emily,
Speaker 2: and then Tammy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then our stepdad for the younger four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the eldest. How is it being the eldest
Speaker 3: of seven A lot?
Speaker 6: I'm very protective, very protective over like everyone. I feel
Speaker 6: like I take on every one problems, which hasn't been
Speaker 6: good for me in the past.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I get too involved in their lives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a hard one. I feel like I do
Speaker 3: that as well. Maybe it's an older sibling thing I
Speaker 3: think it is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, where's your head out, guys, mine's a bit all
Speaker 6: over the place at the moment.
Speaker 5: There's a lot going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there is a lot going on.
Speaker 1: But amongst that, I'm really just trying to center myself.
Speaker 4: I'm being.
Speaker 2: I like that laughed as well.
Speaker 4: Because it's hectic time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I know my energy, I've got to keep
Speaker 1: it centered and calm.
Speaker 5: I'm doing the same thing.
Speaker 4: Do you get me?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You absolutely. How do you guys do it all?
Speaker 3: Because you both have a really successful business called skin
Speaker 3: Is that right? So that's beauty a beauty clinic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, about two of them.
Speaker 3: You have two? Where are they loafing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So Bundle and Rabina on the concourst with injectibles facials.
Speaker 4: I AM's natural path.
Speaker 6: It's like holistic beauty and wellness because obviously, like the
Speaker 6: gut and your skin and everything is connected.
Speaker 5: So we also do lymphatic drainage, have a natural path
Speaker 5: that treats out of.
Speaker 4: There as well. You should come in.
Speaker 3: I would love to.
Speaker 2: I went in for one and it was really nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw Matt's tik tok and that face I've
Speaker 3: never seen at.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are like this is so central and.
Speaker 5: I but it like yea, Honestly, I like to say
Speaker 5: they're really nurturing.
Speaker 6: So I think that feel like you need, like I
Speaker 6: don't know, if you're a little bit emotional, feeling a
Speaker 6: little bit fragile. That's when I also like to get
Speaker 6: a facial because it's like that time where I can
Speaker 6: really shut my mind off and I feel like they're
Speaker 6: just there to look after.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got a facial and therapy for me because
Speaker 1: they usually make me get off my phone and like
Speaker 1: do a few deep breaths, and I'm like, I really
Speaker 1: needed that same.
Speaker 3: Yes, I actually went I got my head like blow
Speaker 3: dry the other day and at the start of I'm
Speaker 3: going to say the experience, because it really felt like
Speaker 3: an experience. They put some I think essential oils like
Speaker 3: right beside my face and made me take a couple
Speaker 3: of deep breaths and I was like, oh, this is lovely,
Speaker 3: just like those small things that really like changes the
Speaker 3: whole experience.
Speaker 2: And it makes you come back experience and just getting
Speaker 2: your hair blows dried.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what we try to do, create an experience.
Speaker 2: I did have an experience and when it came out
Speaker 2: and like, you are scented.
Speaker 3: Relaxed, but no, what I was going to say before
Speaker 3: was you guys have two stores, You guys are super busy,
Speaker 3: you're both mums. How do you do it all? I don't.
Speaker 5: Stressed all over the place.
Speaker 6: I think it's like trying figure out my priorities and
Speaker 6: also like protecting my own energy and making sure that
Speaker 6: I'm putting value where it needs to be in my life.
Speaker 6: I think I've been really bad at that in the past,
Speaker 6: getting to invest it in my sister's lives and what
Speaker 6: they're doing, and then it affecting my life. So now
Speaker 6: I'm just kind of like tunnel vision, like this is
Speaker 6: what I'm doing, this is what's important to me, and
Speaker 6: then I focus in on that and then having a
Speaker 6: really good support system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've preached you in the past, like to say
Speaker 1: no to things, and like it's okay to say no
Speaker 1: and like put yourself first, because Amy would you know,
Speaker 1: think of oh this, which is so nice, but like
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit too much before herself.
Speaker 5: So that's I'm the biggest apartment.
Speaker 6: I will like if my sister is going through a
Speaker 6: hard time and she's hurting, then I'm all of a
Speaker 6: sudden like can't sleep.
Speaker 5: I'm like I need to help her, and yeah, a lot.
Speaker 6: And then I literally a couple of years back, had
Speaker 6: to go to a therapist about it because I was like,
Speaker 6: this is like controlling my life. She was like, you
Speaker 6: need to start putting yourself first. So yeah, that's really
Speaker 6: cute though, that is lovely.
Speaker 5: It's a lot. I think Aurora's got it too. She
Speaker 5: cries and like everything she watches on to the song
Speaker 5: plays in the car and I turn around. She's literally got.
Speaker 2: And she's looking out the window.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh no, she's inherited this from me.
Speaker 2: What about you, Emily? Any tips for managing at.
Speaker 1: All having a good support team around you, whether that's
Speaker 1: a babysitter, nanny, family members, your partner, whoever it is,
Speaker 1: Because I think routine is really important for being like
Speaker 1: organized and having the help and getting the help where
Speaker 1: you can, whether it's like even with like household like
Speaker 1: chores and cleaning or meal preps or whatever it is
Speaker 1: in your life so that you can then focus on
Speaker 1: the things that's going to you know, be the best
Speaker 1: by you doing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I try to be really organized, and I do
Speaker 1: have great support around me with.
Speaker 4: The kids and their activities and.
Speaker 1: Things like that, so I just then have time to
Speaker 1: like get what's important done. But there's no sleep, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's stressful. But I think that comes with being
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and owning your own business. Like I think
Speaker 1: online now these days, everyone like wants to be an
Speaker 1: entrepreneur and a girl boss and like own your own business.
Speaker 1: But it's freaking hard and a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: show like the struggles you go through the risk that
Speaker 1: you take opening your own business. Like we're opening COVID
Speaker 1: and spend so much money and there's so much risks
Speaker 1: that then goes onto us, which is so much stress.
Speaker 1: So it's not like what people think like Girl Boss.
Speaker 1: It's like sleepless nights.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and nobody's going to care as much as you
Speaker 6: do about your own business, so it is a lot
Speaker 6: of pressure and if no one else is showing.
Speaker 5: Up, you have to show up.
Speaker 6: So yeah, a lot of people don't see like the
Speaker 6: tears and the like really late nights or me and
Speaker 6: Emily like painting in clinic, like the night before opening,
Speaker 6: you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, the block.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we painted our own canvases. We were like all
Speaker 1: out of funds, and I was like Amy, you get
Speaker 1: like Rory was outside the front with her kids, Emma
Speaker 1: was watching mine and we were painting them ourselves, and
Speaker 1: people actually compliment them and they're like where They're like
Speaker 1: it's for sale ten thousand dollars famous artists.
Speaker 3: I mean from Italy. Oh, It's so true, Like there's
Speaker 3: so much that goes into having your own business, and unfortunately,
Speaker 3: even if you were to show like a little bit
Speaker 3: of the hard stuff, people mainly show like the Girl
Speaker 3: Boss and like I'm killing it and I'm doing so well,
Speaker 3: but it's so stressful. It's so hard. How is it
Speaker 3: being in business with your sister? Does that cause conflict?
Speaker 3: Like how do you guys get along as co founders?
Speaker 4: I actually really love it.
Speaker 1: I was really worried at the beginning because I always
Speaker 1: saw Amy and Tammy fight like NonStop when she worked
Speaker 1: with Tammy at Saskia and they were like non stop,
Speaker 1: like drama.
Speaker 2: Did you get fired?
Speaker 5: No, so that it's like a weird thing. She used
Speaker 5: to fire me like every week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah one time, then one time.
Speaker 5: And she was literally like are you coming back?
Speaker 6: And I was like no, but everyone's like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: she fired you, and it's like this was not a
Speaker 6: new like yeah.
Speaker 1: So I was a little like worried, but I knew
Speaker 1: how smart Amy was and I really wanted to do
Speaker 1: a business with her, so at the beginning I was unsure.
Speaker 1: But we have a lot of ups and downs, and
Speaker 1: like we're polar opposites as well, so.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like a yin and yang.
Speaker 1: But I think that like really benefits our business, and
Speaker 1: like we look at the business from two different like personalities,
Speaker 1: So I think it really benefits, But there are times where, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I kicked her out of.
Speaker 4: The car a couple of weeks ago, like on the
Speaker 4: side of the road. I really did.
Speaker 1: I feel you can't do that with friends, Like you
Speaker 1: can't come back from that with a friend.
Speaker 2: How did you get out of the car?
Speaker 4: You just like, well, I didn't like kick her.
Speaker 1: I just just physically kissed a main road or not
Speaker 1: a main road, she told mom A main road by
Speaker 1: the way, I got told I told a main road
Speaker 1: as well, speaking why kindy? So you pulled off a
Speaker 1: road and I said you can get out, And then
Speaker 1: two minutes later, actually was trying to call you, but
Speaker 1: you blocked me, and I was going to get you
Speaker 1: back in the car, but you had already left in
Speaker 1: an uber.
Speaker 4: So I was calling time and I'm like, cooling.
Speaker 2: Did you then meet? So you were doing a presentation
Speaker 2: and did you go do it together?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Who did the presentation?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: One?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I should have.
Speaker 6: Two emotions were too heightened. Ye, But yeah, like Emily said,
Speaker 6: there's ups and downs. I do think that I've grown
Speaker 6: heaps from working with my sisters in terms of like
Speaker 6: learning to I guess, collaborate more and listen more.
Speaker 4: To you, Yeah, to hear me.
Speaker 6: And I think when I do that, because like I admit,
Speaker 6: I'm sometimes like, oh, my way is the right way.
Speaker 6: But I found that now when I do kind of
Speaker 6: take on what Emily's saying and meet in the middle,
Speaker 6: the ideas.
Speaker 5: Are often a lot better and strong love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like Yin yang kind of co
Speaker 3: founder relationships are just the best. Like it's the creme
Speaker 3: de la creme of co founders, because when two people
Speaker 3: are the same, it just doesn't work. There's too much
Speaker 3: of a clash and people want to do the same things.
Speaker 2: So people that agree on stuff that would be ideal, yeah.
Speaker 5: We will.
Speaker 3: To do a different things.
Speaker 2: You want someone to challenge, Yeah, challenge.
Speaker 1: Well, we are thinking with ideas, so you thought about
Speaker 1: it from this perspective, but same overall goals. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what you have the same goal, yeah, which is really important.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will say that I don't think I could
Speaker 6: ever be in business with like a friend. I feel like,
Speaker 6: like as a business partner, I feel like it has
Speaker 6: to be family for me because I know too there
Speaker 6: is like no nothing that can come between us, no
Speaker 6: matter how hard we fight or push our own idea
Speaker 6: and get kicked.
Speaker 2: Out of a car on the main I'm still going, well, we.
Speaker 6: Will make up like that, Like the next day, we're
Speaker 6: like fine again.
Speaker 5: Yeahs ten minutes later.
Speaker 3: How often do you guys block each other?
Speaker 4: I never block her? She blocked me.
Speaker 2: I haven't done first date with Tammy. She told me
Speaker 2: she blocked.
Speaker 1: Tammy blocked me too, Like they both like that was
Speaker 1: the only time I think either have done that.
Speaker 5: But that's I feel like that's so childish, Like you
Speaker 5: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Why block? Why block?
Speaker 5: I mean, you blocked someone when you don't want them
Speaker 5: to contact you.
Speaker 1: But I'm not trying to call you.
Speaker 2: You blow a phone.
Speaker 1: No, no one's trying to contact either of you. But okay,
Speaker 1: but they both unblocked.
Speaker 2: Obviously we're here now, Yeah, telling it, laughing about it
Speaker 2: because Tammy called me.
Speaker 4: And was like, hey, I kind of remember what that
Speaker 4: was about me.
Speaker 2: I know what it was about.
Speaker 4: Is it private?
Speaker 2: Was exactly a year ago? How wild's that? A lot
Speaker 2: has happened in a year. Yeah, let's talk.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about that, because I am like very interested
Speaker 3: to know what you guys first thought of Matt honestly,
Speaker 3: like you can be really real and honest about this.
Speaker 3: Matt looks stressed.
Speaker 1: Trying to think of To be honest, I didn't have
Speaker 1: enough energy to have an opinion.
Speaker 4: I'm not even joking. Usually with like listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: So usually in the past, like I've been a bit
Speaker 1: like Amy and really involved in like my sister's lives.
Speaker 1: But with Tammy, I was at the point where I
Speaker 1: was like, when you guys said you were getting engaged,
Speaker 1: I was like, he must be that delusional. I was
Speaker 1: really concerned because she is, like she's spontaneous, and she's
Speaker 1: a fun spirit, and she likes to do what she
Speaker 1: wants to do. But for a guy to come in
Speaker 1: and think that's okay when she's got a one year old,
Speaker 1: like I thought that was a big red flag. And
Speaker 1: I didn't have the energy.
Speaker 4: To go and like go separate a couple.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I'm not gonna get like I just
Speaker 1: for the first time, I was like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get involved and I'm just gonna sit back. But I
Speaker 1: had huge concerns, like I didn't really want to meet him.
Speaker 1: I wasn't interested, and I just before I proposed you
Speaker 1: don't want to meet me before. I don't think I
Speaker 1: wanted to meet anyone. It was just like too fresh,
Speaker 1: and I just wasn't interested in getting to know anyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like I was a bit triggering for you,
Speaker 3: like Matt coming into the Aures.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I had been, like I said, really involved in like
Speaker 6: my sister's lives and like obviously she's got past relationships
Speaker 6: and I always just wanted to look out for her.
Speaker 5: And think I overstepped as well in some cases. But
Speaker 5: we had a plan, Tammy and I had a plan.
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, cool, take things slow, like you know,
Speaker 6: like the next person you meet, this is what we want.
Speaker 5: We had like a plan laid out. I don't know
Speaker 5: if she ever told you the plan that plan went. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, she's like, I'm in love.
Speaker 5: I met my soulmate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just getting it weird, like we're.
Speaker 3: Going to be together forever.
Speaker 5: And I was like whoa, whoa, like's.
Speaker 2: Not the plan we've never talked about. I remember said, like,
Speaker 2: it's not as spontaneous as me just proposing, Like should
Speaker 2: I say we we're going to Elope?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we should be okay with it.
Speaker 4: I feel like should be fine.
Speaker 5: Like, was what was the turning point for you not eloping?
Speaker 2: When I proposed no, but like so she said I
Speaker 2: don't want a loaping because we had it booked in
Speaker 2: in like a month later. And then I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm going to propose make it more like romantic. And
Speaker 2: then she was like, nah, we're not eloping. I want
Speaker 2: to do it work.
Speaker 4: But it was your idea not to albe No.
Speaker 5: Well, because I thought I had something to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought, I really.
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about the chat?
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I went in that real like like I
Speaker 6: had an agenda.
Speaker 1: Oh it was so I could cause like you're like,
Speaker 1: you need to give a little background. Yeah, you do
Speaker 1: contents to like you and time we were going.
Speaker 4: To a lope.
Speaker 2: We were going to a loaf.
Speaker 4: We were concerned.
Speaker 3: They were very naturally.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: I then got Amy, had a chat with Matt. I
Speaker 1: brought you to come to speak to both of us. You
Speaker 1: didn't rock up, Yeah you were like this guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was, yeah, you didn't rock up. And then it
Speaker 2: was me and Amy at skin. I had the ring
Speaker 2: at this point, do you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you showed me in.
Speaker 3: A second. So Amy calls a chat.
Speaker 5: No, I did he called a chat?
Speaker 3: And is that because you wanted to show the ring?
Speaker 2: No, I wanted to approval, okay, right, and then you.
Speaker 4: Didn't rock up and was a big no.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I took that note and then Amy, and then
Speaker 2: Amy had a very strong agenda.
Speaker 3: And what was that Amy?
Speaker 2: It was just that sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I said, Okay, I'm not I'm not going to
Speaker 6: tell someone not to propose. They're in love, Like, I'm
Speaker 6: not getting involved that much. But I had like a
Speaker 6: slight agenda where I was like, Okay, propose and then
Speaker 6: have a year long engagement and don't rush into it
Speaker 6: and celebrate and learn to like, you know, get to
Speaker 6: know everyone in the family and you know, like learn
Speaker 6: about each other and all.
Speaker 5: That sort of stuff.
Speaker 6: And I really pushed that agenda, yeah, because really they
Speaker 6: were gonna alone. I just said, kind of like pros
Speaker 6: and cons list. There are so many pros to like
Speaker 6: waiting waiting, and you guys.
Speaker 2: Have done that, right, Yeah, so you guys hate me.
Speaker 1: There was nothing to do with it. It's not your
Speaker 1: character who you are. It was going to be any
Speaker 1: any person that she was with, you know. And I
Speaker 1: just found it, like I remember saying to you the
Speaker 1: first time we spoke about it at her house and
Speaker 1: I just said to you, like, what's the rash?
Speaker 4: And you were like, well, why not? We love each other?
Speaker 4: And I was like, that's just like so silly. It's like, that's.
Speaker 2: Correction if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Em he proposed to you after a one year old
Speaker 1: and I wasn't engaged two times prior.
Speaker 4: So it's very different because you said that to.
Speaker 1: Me that day too, you know, so it's very different situations.
Speaker 2: Is love love?
Speaker 4: I agree? I agree, but come on, red flag?
Speaker 2: There huge red flag to quit back and.
Speaker 4: Think I'm glad like we you know, yeah, do.
Speaker 3: You imagine if you were aloped after a couple of months?
Speaker 1: I still think the engagement's not long enough. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's better than like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like it should have been another year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 2: Would you have come to our like Twitter?
Speaker 4: Don't you? Like elope? Without people?
Speaker 3: You can bring people a couple of people.
Speaker 1: Like if you guys wanted me to, I would have,
Speaker 1: but like I wouldn't excited about anything, like you.
Speaker 3: Know, I would have come kicking in screws.
Speaker 4: I was just like no feelings about it, Like I
Speaker 4: was trying to.
Speaker 2: Say, I know you say you had no feelings, but
Speaker 2: you were very strong on the I thought it.
Speaker 1: Was really silly and it would have been a really
Speaker 1: bad mistake, but I just didn't. I didn't express it
Speaker 1: to anyone, but I think I expressed it just to you.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. You were very
Speaker 2: strong about it.
Speaker 5: You were like, that was me.
Speaker 1: So calm with no feelings, Like I'm not kidding.
Speaker 4: That was that time.
Speaker 1: I remember the house was the only like conversation we
Speaker 1: hadn't I said it, I think it's not a good idea.
Speaker 1: I was like, what's the rush and tried to be
Speaker 1: really like smiley about it.
Speaker 6: You know, I witness to that, and that's where I
Speaker 6: was like, I need to take a different approach. And
Speaker 6: that's why when we met, I was like, okay, I'm
Speaker 6: taking a different angle.
Speaker 1: I remember Day was kicking me under the terminal say anything.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is me so calm, and he's doing
Speaker 1: this like wow, it was so worried.
Speaker 2: You kept saying yea, oh, it's not my business.
Speaker 4: I'm like it's my sister.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it is your business. And you have every
Speaker 2: right to be in the position.
Speaker 1: And you were asking, like, I didn't come randomly, you know,
Speaker 1: and give my opinion.
Speaker 4: You were like asking, I'm.
Speaker 2: Pretty sure we both did both.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I remember I went to Tammy's news Eve
Speaker 3: party and Emily you were like, tell me everything about that,
Speaker 3: like who is this guy?
Speaker 4: Like who is this stranger?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it may it makes sense.
Speaker 1: I think I've heard about you. Was that you cried
Speaker 1: on every episode of Violet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the only thing because I'm an emotional guy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't see anything wrong.
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything wrong with that, and I actually, like,
Speaker 1: I really I think I would have said to you too.
Speaker 1: I really liked the playful, goofy side that comes out
Speaker 1: of Tammy when she's with you, Like I noticed that
Speaker 1: straight away, and I thought that was really nice and
Speaker 1: she's really happy. The only thing that I was like, hmm,
Speaker 1: that I didn't like was when we were talking that day.
Speaker 1: Comes back to that day and you were talking about
Speaker 1: I think the New Year's Eve party and you were like,
Speaker 1: are you going to come to like our house that
Speaker 1: we're hosting our party?
Speaker 4: And like you literally just met just literally like.
Speaker 1: Just audacity, like a few times, like ah, Like I'm
Speaker 1: like okay, I get you guys, but like, no, I
Speaker 1: think you even said you guys are invited. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you you Matt. You were like, I don't worry you'll
Speaker 1: be invited, And I was like, I don't even want
Speaker 1: to come, but thanks, babe, Like.
Speaker 2: This isn't that's surely not party.
Speaker 4: Oh house, it's the first time we've been to this house.
Speaker 2: I was still staying in the hotel.
Speaker 3: Fast forward from the initial impression of that and some
Speaker 3: of those impressions which aren't the best that that's not.
Speaker 6: No, it's true because Emily talked about it like, yeah
Speaker 6: times too.
Speaker 5: She was like, I didn't like that he did this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think. I don't even want to come anywhere.
Speaker 4: I'm giving Jason it's fine.
Speaker 5: Me move past it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look now we're moving on to the present. This is
Speaker 3: present day and Tammy and Matt are getting married in
Speaker 3: three months time. How do you guys feel about it?
Speaker 3: Did you think that they were going to get to
Speaker 3: this place? Did you even think that they were going
Speaker 3: to be like walking down the aisle? What's your thoughts?
Speaker 1: I feel I still feel they should have had a
Speaker 1: longer engagement. Yeah, but I feel like I like Matt
Speaker 1: as a person, Like I think he's nice. I think
Speaker 1: he's immature. I think he's got to do a lot
Speaker 1: of growing up. Like you're very immature, but I think
Speaker 1: you're a nice person, Like you've got a good heart,
Speaker 1: Like you've got good intentions with her. But I do
Speaker 1: still feel like it could be a longer engagement. But
Speaker 1: like we get along, there's no beef, there's.
Speaker 2: Love after this.
Speaker 1: Immature in what way you're like some of the stuff
Speaker 1: you say, I can't think of things off to my head.
Speaker 1: That's like a little teenager boy would say something like that,
Speaker 1: like a little baby.
Speaker 4: A big baby.
Speaker 3: You're right, but.
Speaker 1: I said, we're in a good place. But I don't
Speaker 1: also feel like it has to do with me. Like
Speaker 1: Tommy seems she's happy, and that's what, like I.
Speaker 2: Care about you know what about you? Amy?
Speaker 6: All I wanted always was for Tammy to be happy
Speaker 6: and to find her person, and Tammy loves love. You
Speaker 6: would know that she loves romance and that's why she
Speaker 6: always falls so hard, which I like hated but also
Speaker 6: loved about her and didn't want her to ever lose that.
Speaker 6: So I always just like hoped for you guys to
Speaker 6: work out Obviously I didn't know you like very long,
Speaker 6: so I was protective and scared because I feel about her.
Speaker 6: But now you know, I like you. You seem to
Speaker 6: make her happy. She's smiling, she's goofy, she's like her
Speaker 6: fun like self when she's around you, And I think,
Speaker 6: like anyone, that brings out the best in you and
Speaker 6: each other.
Speaker 5: Then, like, you know, I wish you guys the best.
Speaker 2: Can you gasp me up some more?
Speaker 1: I just hope you know marriage is a serious thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is actually a serious thing, and like I hope
Speaker 1: you don't make any mistakes, Like I really pray and
Speaker 1: hope that you don't do anything to hurt Tammy.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to hurt Tammy. I have no intention
Speaker 2: of hurting Tommy.
Speaker 1: You know, like she's really happy. You guys are in
Speaker 1: a really good space, and hopefully that continues.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. How do you think Matt is with Tammy's kids
Speaker 3: as a stepdad.
Speaker 4: It's good, But I haven't seen you that much with them.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you a little cheeky little thing that
Speaker 1: I did when you first came to the house, and
Speaker 1: like we were all having dinner at lunch, and the
Speaker 1: kids are screaming and running around everywhere, like every time
Speaker 1: you didn't look like I was banging and making more
Speaker 1: noise to.
Speaker 4: Make it seem like really hectic.
Speaker 1: I swear I was like banging the tables, making like
Speaker 1: loud noises.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, this is so calm tonight.
Speaker 5: Let you feel. She was like trying to get me
Speaker 5: in on it. She's like, make more noise, banging.
Speaker 2: The counter, And what did I do?
Speaker 1: Let you?
Speaker 4: You were.
Speaker 1: You were like your Facebook you see to go like
Speaker 1: it was, And I was like, how calm is tonight?
Speaker 1: Amy is so peaceful?
Speaker 2: It was so I did think it was quietly out.
Speaker 2: It was a lot going on.
Speaker 3: And then they left and you're like it's so quiet.
Speaker 6: I was fine, well, yeah, like if you can't like
Speaker 6: put up with that, then that's yeah.
Speaker 5: It was good. Like you passed. Then, well, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of kids.
Speaker 2: In our family, a lot going on.
Speaker 5: We spend a lot of time together too.
Speaker 2: I like that though.
Speaker 3: I like the whole family thing close everyone.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 6: Let's talk about that. So how many kids do you
Speaker 6: guys both have I've got three plus two step kids yep.
Speaker 3: And I've got two hell and how is it like,
Speaker 3: you know, I hope to be your mum one day.
Speaker 3: Do you have any advice like for people who just
Speaker 3: have never had kids, like because you guys look like supermums.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 1: I think being a mum is like the hardest job,
Speaker 1: like compared to any business that I've had or any
Speaker 1: other project. It's really hard because it's like your everything
Speaker 1: you do is impacting this little person to become the
Speaker 1: person they are and like what they believe and what
Speaker 1: they value, and they're, you know, this whole person. So
Speaker 1: it's a lot of like responsibility. I try not to
Speaker 1: think about that because sometimes that's like.
Speaker 4: To overwhelm me.
Speaker 1: But I think being on the same page as your
Speaker 1: partner with your goals on how you want a parent,
Speaker 1: what you got, what's important to you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: teach your kids is the most important. And like looking back,
Speaker 1: like me and Emmra have these like the same goals,
Speaker 1: but if we didn't, I could see how like people
Speaker 1: divorce and like how broken homes and like all of that.
Speaker 1: So I think that's like really important to be in
Speaker 1: the same page with your partner and like just enjoy
Speaker 1: the journey because there are like crazy situations like you know,
Speaker 1: when they're pooh in public and tantrums and like you can't.
Speaker 4: Be ready and like trained for those situations.
Speaker 1: So I think like laughing it out and like not
Speaker 1: taking it so seriously and not putting so much pressure,
Speaker 1: and you know, like kind of going with it and
Speaker 1: laughing together as a couple is a really good way
Speaker 1: of looking at being a new parent.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely for me, advice I would give myself
Speaker 6: is that it's harder than you think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you never get.
Speaker 6: Like that break, but it's also the most rewarding thing
Speaker 6: you'll ever do. So I'm like super proud of myself
Speaker 6: because I feel like my kids have really like I
Speaker 6: like to say, they hold a mirror up to me,
Speaker 6: and then I can I actually see like how I
Speaker 6: guess before how selfish I was, and not even like
Speaker 6: you're allowed to be selfish in your twenties. You know
Speaker 6: that it's like your time for that, but you can't
Speaker 6: do a lot of those things when you have kids.
Speaker 6: You can't sleep in you know, you have to get
Speaker 6: up and change their appies and feed them and all
Speaker 6: that sort of stuff. So just putting like them first,
Speaker 6: I guess, and it really like made me realize, you know,
Speaker 6: I need to grow up. I need to change the
Speaker 6: way I'm doing things. I need to prioritize things differently.
Speaker 6: And yeah, it's like one of the most rewarding things
Speaker 6: I've ever done.
Speaker 2: I've learned that in like the short period that I've
Speaker 2: been around them, that like you can't put like yourself
Speaker 2: first and you've got to be less selfish for stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, and sometimes it's a hard reality to come to,
Speaker 6: you know, because it does almost happen overnight. Yeah, It's
Speaker 6: like you have like you're pregnant and you can still
Speaker 6: like you know, lay around, but you have this baby
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, like if you're breastfeeding, you're
Speaker 6: feeding every three hours, and it's like you have to
Speaker 6: do this. Yeah, so from the get go, it's like,
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, your life's changed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: They can't leave the house like on your own.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh, I need to like obviously take my baby,
Speaker 6: but I need to pack nappies and make.
Speaker 5: Sure like I know when I'm going to feed them.
Speaker 2: And you know, like all such a mind shift, isn't it.
Speaker 6: And I think it's that like adjustment when you first
Speaker 6: have kids that really like, you know, it can rock people.
Speaker 6: And that's when I was like, oh, I didn't actually
Speaker 6: realize how hard it is. My whole life is changing,
Speaker 6: whereas I kind of just thought, oh, it's just gonna
Speaker 6: be a bit different, just a baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, and like you want to go home
Speaker 2: and like relax sometimes from work, but it's straight back.
Speaker 1: That's like when the afternoon rush started. Yeah, trying to
Speaker 1: get them to go to sleep.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, yeah, the bedtime crying.
Speaker 1: Mine come out every two minutes, Oh my mom, hungry,
Speaker 1: oh my fummy head?
Speaker 4: Oh could you just tick on my back? We read
Speaker 4: one more book. I'm like, just get in your bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like ten.
Speaker 4: Minutes, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wolf comes into the most randomist comments. Didn't you
Speaker 2: find that when he was staying at yours?
Speaker 6: He was so good when he stayed at mine? To bed,
Speaker 6: he just laid bed radio and then I said no and.
Speaker 4: Turned the lot radio. When does he come and saying
Speaker 4: your route?
Speaker 2: When he comes out, it just comes in and he's like, mom,
Speaker 2: you know that, and he says some random friend wants
Speaker 2: this for his birthday. And she's like We're like yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: and then you'll come back and be like is the
Speaker 2: Black Thing tomorrow or something like just that was last
Speaker 2: night alone, like just random stuff the time, Yeah the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, such is that's really cute.
Speaker 3: You guys used to have your own podcast. What made
Speaker 3: it end? Was there?
Speaker 1: We just got way too busy, like to order note
Speaker 1: us three together at the same time for like we
Speaker 1: used to do like two episodes in the one time
Speaker 1: for like two hours. Was just like things would come up,
Speaker 1: we'd have to cancel. Yeah, So it's just our schedule.
Speaker 3: It's a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of time to commitment. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then you've got to get like content ready, you organize guests,
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. So obviously, like you guys
Speaker 2: are very much on social media, very active on there.
Speaker 2: Do you find it daunting that everyone knows your whole
Speaker 2: life and like everything you do and judges it. Like
Speaker 2: that's something that I've noticed, Like obviously I was like
Speaker 2: came off a show and people like following me in that,
Speaker 2: but like it's next level being retained, Like it's like
Speaker 2: almost confronting about how much people judge you. And I
Speaker 2: know you guys have probably had that secondhand off her.
Speaker 2: It's full on, Like how do you find it.
Speaker 1: I learned from Tammy quite quick to like tune people
Speaker 1: out and like not care about others opinion, and like
Speaker 1: I care about like my sister's opinion and my mom
Speaker 1: and dad's opinion, and like my husband's opinion. So I
Speaker 1: really try to connect myself back to that. But like
Speaker 1: there are times when like people will say things and
Speaker 1: it really does bother you, like the odd comment. But
Speaker 1: I do find that what I was saying the other
Speaker 1: day on Instagram like the tool poppy syndrome.
Speaker 4: In Australia, I find people are.
Speaker 1: So quick to like just judge and say something negative,
Speaker 1: and I find it really sad for them. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I would never like just someone I don't know see
Speaker 1: something and like go comment something so mean.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what is going off with their life? Let's
Speaker 4: get this person a therapist.
Speaker 2: I've been sent forums of people that are just fucking
Speaker 2: commenting shit on everything we do, and I'm like, you
Speaker 2: guys are so fucking sad, and they're probably gonna take
Speaker 2: this and talk about it, and I hope they do,
Speaker 2: because you guys are fucking sad, like and that's being
Speaker 2: so in my life and you're making stuff up on
Speaker 2: there that you think you know about me or judging
Speaker 2: like a fifteen second clip like you need help.
Speaker 1: I think we're really lucky that we have each other,
Speaker 1: like we're all in this together and we can really
Speaker 1: like you know, vent to each other and like express
Speaker 1: how we feel to each other. But I think Tammy's advice,
Speaker 1: like right from the beginning, was really valuable where it's
Speaker 1: like who cares, we're happy?
Speaker 5: You know, we're good.
Speaker 3: You need to take that advice.
Speaker 5: We're good.
Speaker 6: I think it's been about like learning to just let
Speaker 6: it kind of like you know, wash over me and
Speaker 6: then putting my energy where I feel like you're actually
Speaker 6: like valued. So I can't help these people for feeling
Speaker 6: that way. And I know I would never like, you know,
Speaker 6: say random hurtful things about a stranger. I don't know, don't,
Speaker 6: I couldn't, And I've kind it done to me just
Speaker 6: from like association with Tammy, you know, like even like
Speaker 6: from the start, and it's like I was always more reserved,
Speaker 6: a little more quiet, more in the behind the scenes
Speaker 6: business side of things, and that's where I liked to stay.
Speaker 6: And then it got more so that I kind of
Speaker 6: like stepped out. Now I'm doing things like public speaking,
Speaker 6: my businesses and stuff like that, which is great, but yeah,
Speaker 6: there's always going to be people who are like, they
Speaker 6: don't work, they don't do this, and I work so hard.
Speaker 5: But I know I work hard.
Speaker 6: And what matters is that my daughter sees me working hard,
Speaker 6: that my team like I show up for them every day,
Speaker 6: that I put that good energy out there, because I
Speaker 6: do believe in karma, and I'm like, if I keep
Speaker 6: putting good energy out it will come back to me.
Speaker 6: I cannot harbor on like other people's negative energy because
Speaker 6: that's just affecting them. I think I read something in
Speaker 6: a book once and it was like wishing people ill
Speaker 6: is like drinking poison and hoping for them to die.
Speaker 5: That is.
Speaker 2: Actually true too, and I love that.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's end on a bit of a lighter note.
Speaker 3: It's actually been such an interesting chat having both of
Speaker 3: you on, so thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Didn't talk over each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been great. Who's the most likely to splurge
Speaker 3: on something? Emily? Emily?
Speaker 2: Okay, who is the most likely to be late to
Speaker 2: an event?
Speaker 5: Me? Emily.
Speaker 2: You guys were dead on time today and you.
Speaker 1: Guys were good so many times eleven am sharp pat.
Speaker 2: But then I go yes, But then I there before
Speaker 2: because we were running over time. I was like, no,
Speaker 2: that'll be late, don't worry about it, and then you
Speaker 2: were dead with dead a time.
Speaker 3: Who's most likely to forget an important date or a present? Emily?
Speaker 5: I was thinking it might be I think me.
Speaker 4: I'm like, is anything important on today?
Speaker 2: I feel like, what is a moment of your sister
Speaker 2: that you're proud of the most.
Speaker 1: They're both just staring at each other moment I could
Speaker 1: say when. Amy has been doing lots of public speaking lately,
Speaker 1: So I think that's been really cool to see the
Speaker 1: growth because she came from like not wanting to do
Speaker 1: anything and like you know, not standing up in front
Speaker 1: of like even like team meetings of like ten fifteen people.
Speaker 1: She would be nervous to do that. So like hundreds
Speaker 1: of people, I get like a lot, and then you
Speaker 1: can't get her off the mic. I'm doing the presentation
Speaker 1: with her, Okay, I just.
Speaker 2: I love public space because Tammy doesn't like it, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I like it. I enjoy that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the more you do it, yeah, you
Speaker 1: either like it or you don't. But she's become amazing.
Speaker 1: I just it's awesome.
Speaker 2: Now you enjoy doing it.
Speaker 5: I don't know, You're like, not, I just get the microphone.
Speaker 6: No, But I am proud of myself because I think
Speaker 6: it shows growth in myself because I really would get
Speaker 6: so nervous and now I actually I still get nervous,
Speaker 6: but not like I used to where it was like
Speaker 6: almost like you know, like I couldn't step out there,
Speaker 6: whereas now I'm like, Okay, I got this.
Speaker 3: Life starts outside your comfort zone.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's what I say.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, So you're proud of me. There's there's a lot
Speaker 6: of things I'm proud of you for. You're like, you're
Speaker 6: a real go getter, exactly what we're saying, what we're
Speaker 6: proud of you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, was that the fst y yeah moment.
Speaker 2: I asked, but if you have a moment, but if
Speaker 2: you have a list or something like.
Speaker 6: For me, I don't like feed too much into like
Speaker 6: just like specific moments. I like to like look at
Speaker 6: everything as like a whole picture because I feel like
Speaker 6: too many people kind of pass up the little things.
Speaker 6: And I think I've seen like a lot of growth
Speaker 6: in Emily over the time that we've been business partners. Yeah,
Speaker 6: like really, you know, trying and like trying to like
Speaker 6: step outside your comfort zone where you might not have
Speaker 6: the strengths and like step more into areas that I'm
Speaker 6: like strongering.
Speaker 5: And I think that's the same what you said about.
Speaker 6: Me, because you're really good at public speaking, and I
Speaker 6: think you've also helped me too.
Speaker 3: That's lovely. I have a final question, and that is
Speaker 3: that you guys are both in really long term relationships.
Speaker 3: Amy you've been in a relationship for twelve years and
Speaker 3: Emily you've been in yours for ten. Do you have
Speaker 3: any relationship advice for our listeners on how to maintain
Speaker 3: and keep the spark alive?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think number one thing is communication, Like I always
Speaker 1: need to be talking to my husband and communicating like
Speaker 1: what's going on with me, how I'm feeling, if.
Speaker 4: He's because they're both really busy.
Speaker 1: So if I find if we both have like really
Speaker 1: busy weeks and we haven't had that like sit down
Speaker 1: in connection, I find myself a little bit off, like
Speaker 1: I need to have that communication time with him so
Speaker 1: that but we also do like weekly date nights, like
Speaker 1: we really put our relationship. I wouldn't say first because
Speaker 1: this is something that like we both like look into.
Speaker 1: But when you have kids, like you kind of like
Speaker 1: as a mummy, devote your life to your kids. But
Speaker 1: I've made it really important that I still give him
Speaker 1: that same kind of attention and I'm kind of not
Speaker 1: like just the kids in see you later like a
Speaker 1: lot of moms. Yeah, I'm really cautious of her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really really do of us and our relationship. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like as obset with him as I was like
Speaker 1: the day I met him now, So I think that's
Speaker 1: like really important. And to like marry your best friend,
Speaker 1: like we were friends first and so we get each other,
Speaker 1: we support each other, we push each other to be
Speaker 1: the best version of ourselves too. I think that's also
Speaker 1: really important to not hold back someone like I could
Speaker 1: say the most crazy idea and he will support me to.
Speaker 2: Challenge each other, not the relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you are like holding someone back
Speaker 1: and not supporting them, then that's going to cause.
Speaker 2: Of course that's a lot of friction.
Speaker 3: Absolutely supporting, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Amy, any advice. Twelve years is it actually twelve years?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Twelve years?
Speaker 2: I think I heard it been longer.
Speaker 6: I think for me, like there needs to be like
Speaker 6: a mutual respect. Like I respect my husband so much.
Speaker 5: I love him.
Speaker 6: He's like one of the kindest people ever, the best dad.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 5: Just knowing that we go through different seasons of life,
Speaker 5: but like together, like we will always have each other's.
Speaker 6: Backs, and like, you know, if I'm only operating at
Speaker 6: like twenty percent, he'll be the eighty and.
Speaker 5: We kind of like flow that way.
Speaker 6: And I just know like he'll pick up this like
Speaker 6: if I need it, and I'll do the same. And
Speaker 6: I think, just like, yeah, respecting.
Speaker 5: One another and yeah, that's for us. And I mean
Speaker 5: I just love him because he's like the nicest kind of.
Speaker 3: Guy.
Speaker 2: Both be very welcoming, good guys. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: chatting to him at family events, Yeah.
Speaker 5: He's just a real nice guy. Like he's like.
Speaker 2: It's just a really chill nice is a nice guy
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, really nice guy.
Speaker 6: But you know someone's really nice when like sometimes I
Speaker 6: like might like make a little caddy joke or something
Speaker 6: and he's like, oh, that's not very nice.
Speaker 3: Like oh the Michael does that to me, And I'm like, okay.
Speaker 4: Sorry, like a little bit bitchy about someone else.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe like just like a joke and then he'll
Speaker 6: be like, that's that's really nice.
Speaker 2: I said that as well. Guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're both really good guys. We were really lucky.
Speaker 1: I remember when I first like we were getting weloped overseas,
Speaker 1: and like, I remember when we were going.
Speaker 4: To do it.
Speaker 2: I was how long into how long?
Speaker 1: So he had proposed after knowing him three weeks, which
Speaker 1: was alarming.
Speaker 4: It's different your white shirt, it's different. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: it's different.
Speaker 2: Just don't stand on your.
Speaker 1: And I said no because I was wise, which I
Speaker 1: could have said, yeah, it's been married, but I said
Speaker 1: no because I was like that's crazy, Like that's crazy.
Speaker 1: A couple of years after okay, yeah, so we loped
Speaker 1: and I remember being so nervous because I was like
Speaker 1: I get bored so quickly, and I what if I get.
Speaker 4: Brought with this guy? What if I get married?
Speaker 1: I'm like over him next minute, Like I literally was
Speaker 1: thinking this my brain. I'm like, oh my god, before
Speaker 1: you walk out getting.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, Like I love him
Speaker 4: right now, but like.
Speaker 5: What's next year?
Speaker 1: Like like I'm not kidding, like I'm very like I
Speaker 1: like a lot of things going on and I promise
Speaker 1: you he's not keep me like he's kept me on
Speaker 1: my toes every single.
Speaker 4: Day of my marriage.
Speaker 1: Like he's like, you know, just my other half, like
Speaker 1: completely like just knows how to like handle me, I guess,
Speaker 1: and like keep me not bored and having fun and
Speaker 1: not like I'm like in a scary old, boring relationship,
Speaker 1: like I'm dating my best friend, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Stereotypes out then. I think I was just
Speaker 1: scared of like once you get married, like and life's over.
Speaker 4: Like I was really nervous about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that at all.
Speaker 4: I was. I didn't think of it my wedding day.
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 2: You're starting a new chapter, you're opening a whole another chapter,
Speaker 2: but you're like.
Speaker 4: With this, post it for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: I've even told, I've told that's not going to keep
Speaker 2: us apart.
Speaker 4: I told I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to be in the same ye, like one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, Like I want them to dig it back
Speaker 1: up and put me in.
Speaker 6: The same I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to know how we cuddle it night. So
Speaker 2: that's resume our position, not really.
Speaker 3: More than really quickly just that weird. Yes, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: a good love. Yeah, I love Michael, but I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean wory.
Speaker 5: I have not spoken.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what we speak about it.
Speaker 2: It should be a conversation you bring up very early,
Speaker 2: I feel.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: You guys both have amazing partners. And when Tammy had
Speaker 3: her New Year's Eve party, they were so welcoming and
Speaker 3: love to Michael yes sorry no. And Tammy's news.
Speaker 2: Party ours Emily, they were both.
Speaker 3: So lovely and welcoming and just the best. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a credit to them.
Speaker 2: Until you guys have done well.
Speaker 3: Thanks exactly.
Speaker 2: I've really not made it any better for myself.
Speaker 3: Guys, thank you so much for coming on to Where's
Speaker 3: your Head Out. We've absolutely loved having you both. Thank
Speaker 3: you for the real and raw conversations until next time, by.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having on.
Speaker 5: Thanks