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Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, December thirty as The Australian's europe correspondent Jacqueline

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Speaker 1: Magnate covers Olympic Games, papal elections, UK politics, natural disasters,

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Speaker 1: wars and of course the Royals. Twenty twenty five has

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Speaker 1: been a huge year for the House of Windsor, and

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Speaker 1: today Jack joins us to reveal what courtiers are really

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Speaker 1: saying about the King's cancer, Prince Harry's prospects of coming home,

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Speaker 1: Megan Michael's future, and the occasional moment when even the

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Speaker 1: most popular royal, Catherine, Princess of Wales, gets it wrong.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, the House of Windsor mourned one

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Speaker 1: close family member that it is with deep sorrow that

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Speaker 1: Buckingham Palace announces the death of her Royal Highness, the

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Speaker 1: Duchess of Canes, and orchestrated the demise of another.

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Speaker 2: Prince, Andrew will now be known as Andrew Mountbatton. Windsor.

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Speaker 1: King Charles goes into twenty twenty six still fighting one

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Speaker 1: undisclosed form of cancer, although he has said his treatment

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Speaker 1: is reducing and he's on the end. Catherine, Princess of Wales,

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Speaker 1: continued her recovery from another, also undisclosed form of cancer.

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Speaker 2: Melaney and I are delighted to visit again with Prince

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Speaker 2: William and to see her Royal Highness Princess Catherine, so

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Speaker 2: radiant and so healthy.

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Speaker 1: So beautiful. Prince Harry sued the United Kingdom and lost,

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Speaker 1: lost again, and then won a review of his security arrangements.

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Speaker 1: Meghan Michael and her TV show were quietly dropped by Netflix.

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Speaker 3: The extension of it, which was such an incredible sign

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Speaker 3: of the strength of our partnership, was now being a

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Speaker 3: first look deal, which is also exciting because it gives

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Speaker 3: us flexibility to go to our partners first and then

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Speaker 3: at the same time to be able to sharp content

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Speaker 3: that might not be the rate fit for a Netflix

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Speaker 3: book has a home somewhere else, and all of it was.

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Speaker 1: Covered thanks to her excellent contacts in the Royal household

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Speaker 1: by our own europe correspondent Jacqueline Magnee Jack. This year,

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Speaker 1: King Charles took pretty serious action against his brother Prince Andrew,

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Speaker 1: after the revelations about his entanglement with Jeffrey Epstein in

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Speaker 1: the United States. What was your view and how did

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Speaker 1: you go about reporting Charles's actions in regard to Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Well, when it happened, it was in October of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five, and of course this story has been rumbling

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Speaker 2: along for many, many, many years, and it seemed that

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Speaker 2: the royal family wanted to try and just bury it.

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Speaker 2: That they wanted if they thought their normal modus operandi

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Speaker 2: people will forget about it. But it didn't happen because

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Speaker 2: of the court cases in America kept bringing up Andrew's

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Speaker 2: association with Virginia Guchrie. And so when the queen gave

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Speaker 2: her son, you know, twelve million pounds in her final

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Speaker 2: the royals thought that that would be the end of

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Speaker 2: the matter. But it wasn't, of course, and I think

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Speaker 2: what King Charles did was rather extreme. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is unprecedented to strip your brother of his titles to

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Speaker 2: the point that he's now a commoner. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: known as Andrew mount Baton windsor mister Andrew mount Batten Windsor,

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Speaker 2: and all of that privilege, all of that status has

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Speaker 2: now gone and it seems a really harsh punishment, which

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Speaker 2: for something that is not yet proven in court. It's

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Speaker 2: a contested allegation. So what happened with the royal family,

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Speaker 2: palisades trying to understand the reasoning for such extreme action,

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Speaker 2: and there was a lot of anger about Andrew not

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Speaker 2: wanting to leave Royal Lodge, which was this ostentatious thirty

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Speaker 2: about that. So this action by King Charles was rather

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Speaker 2: severe and unprecedented, and it was also done with an

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Speaker 2: that has trashed the Royal family brand and is a

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Speaker 2: So I think that they felt that by taking such

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Speaker 2: it really opens up a can of worms now that

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Speaker 2: and extract a bit more of their power and wield it.

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Speaker 1: What's your sense of William's involvement in that decision to

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Speaker 1: freeze out Andrew quite so spectacularly.

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Speaker 2: Well, William and Andrew don't get on. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: well known, and we see that in their body language

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Speaker 2: but I've been told that it was very much King

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Speaker 2: he's allowing Andrew to move out of the Royal Lodge

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Speaker 2: in Sandringham. Of course this was a decision that William

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Speaker 2: wholeheartedly supported, but from what I've been told that it

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Speaker 4: Well. This is a pretty significant U turner. After years

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Speaker 4: of legal back and forth for Prince Harry, the UK

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Speaker 4: government has now agreed to carry out a fresh security

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Speaker 4: review looking into whether the Duke of Sussex should again

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Speaker 1: I'm intrigued that you say that Charles is keen to

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Speaker 1: reconcile with Harry, because you know, Charles is the king

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Speaker 1: now he could rip up the rule that Queen Elizabeth created.

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Speaker 1: That means that Meghan and Harry Eric soul in California,

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Speaker 1: to call themselves. He's in her Royal Highness. Why doesn't

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Speaker 1: Charles just change the rules and allow them to have

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Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't want that because he knows that the

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Speaker 2: He knows that Meghan and Harry don't want to come

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Speaker 2: creates a constitutional issue, especially if Harry then decides to

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Speaker 2: suddenly it would create an unbelievable constitutional crisis. So the King,

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Speaker 2: and he has been trying to get Harry to drop

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Speaker 2: all these legal cases. But Harry is very determined and

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we need to talk about Meghan.

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Speaker 4: I love the holiday season.

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Speaker 3: It's about finding time to connect with the people we love.

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Speaker 1: I hope you curated a Christmas tree and a Christmas feast,

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Speaker 1: Jack in line with Meghan Markle's instructions in her holiday special.

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Speaker 1: I've found myself draw unto the second season of her

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Speaker 1: TV show like a car crash. I could not stop

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Speaker 1: watching her you know, making candles in her crafting barn,

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Speaker 1: and you know, learning how to open a sea arch.

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Speaker 1: And what struck me about the show is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's she's so close to being kind of warm and relatable.

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Speaker 1: But for me, there are two factors. One is that

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Speaker 1: everything she prepares involves thousands of dollars of expense. You know,

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Speaker 1: the crafting barn alone would be a multimillion dollar property.

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Speaker 1: You could put two families in it. And also she

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Speaker 1: talks a lot about showing up in small ways for

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Speaker 3: Embracing traditions I like this, and making new ones.

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Speaker 1: But in the big gestures, like for example, speaking to

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Speaker 1: the King, she doesn't show up at all.

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Speaker 2: No, and that's the problem is the fakery about it.

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Speaker 2: The people want to see some honesty and genuineness, and

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Speaker 2: we don't get that because we know it's not true.

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Speaker 2: In the holiday special, she is promoting, you know, Christmas

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Speaker 2: as a time for family experiences and togetherness, and yet

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Speaker 2: her children have not seen their grandfather, her father, and

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Speaker 2: they haven't seen King Charles very often at all, or

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Speaker 2: this situation where she does one thing and says another,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think the viewership really warms to her

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Speaker 2: because of that. And some of it's so silly. I mean,

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Speaker 2: who makes lavender balls to put in a Christmas cracker

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Speaker 2: I don't know what four year olds are into wellness

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to watch someone who is at the

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Speaker 1: center of the family is cattering the Princess of Wales.

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Speaker 1: She's become the kind of superstar of the royals, and

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Speaker 1: it helps that she's incredibly beautiful, I think, and looks

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Speaker 1: great in a tiara. She has really returned to public

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Speaker 1: life this year, hasn't she jack after recovering from cancer.

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Speaker 2: Well, she has, but it's been very carefully calibrated and

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Speaker 2: when she does make an appearance, a lot is made

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Speaker 2: but actually she's not. Her appearances are very very carefully

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Speaker 2: she turns up. They're allowing her a lot of regal

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Speaker 2: a hundred. So it's not as though it is business

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Speaker 2: as usual for Catherine. But we do see her now

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Speaker 2: making more of an effort, and she has certain causes

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Speaker 2: that are very dear to her heart, and so she's

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Speaker 2: prioritizing those and we saw that late November when she

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Speaker 2: gave a speech about early childhood, and that's a passion

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Speaker 5: As business leaders, you'll face the daily challenge at finding

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Speaker 5: the balance between profitability and having a positive impact, but

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Speaker 5: the two are not and should not be incompatible.

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Speaker 2: It didn't go down that well actually this speech because

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Speaker 2: people thought that she was lecturing them about, or certainly

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Speaker 2: And so Prince William faces, you know, several decades on

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