Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Code NRL Podcast. I'm Dean Richie,
Speaker 1: joined by Fatima Kado. How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good, BOARDO are you?
Speaker 1: I'm very well. Let's trip straight into a Fatima. The
Speaker 1: West Tigers on the ladder slippery slide. After such a
Speaker 1: promising start of the season where they won five from seven,
Speaker 1: they've now lost eight from ten games. It's imploding at
Speaker 1: Concord and that's only been worsened by the news that's
Speaker 1: coming out about Jerome Lewis. What do you make of it?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's the Tigers are doing. You know,
Speaker 3: they're the ones who put the clauses in the contract,
Speaker 3: and you know, Jerome Lway is really just exercising the
Speaker 3: right that he has contractually to have tested the market.
Speaker 3: What has gone wrong from April where you know he's
Speaker 3: decided to join the Chiefs. He said he's still got
Speaker 3: eighteen months, he's locked in the next eighteen months. Ben
Speaker 3: she seemed like he's on board, and all of a
Speaker 3: sudden we hear that maybe things between him and Benji
Speaker 3: haven't been great since that Pang decision, and it was
Speaker 3: Benji that drove, you know, the move to have him
Speaker 3: leave the club at.
Speaker 1: The end of the wall. Why why do you think
Speaker 1: Benji's done this? Fatima?
Speaker 3: Well, I say credit to Benji because if you look
Speaker 3: back to the start of the year when the Tigers
Speaker 3: released that documentary of a very sort of tough talking,
Speaker 3: tough love Benji Marshall, who was laying down the law, saying,
Speaker 3: if you know you're not buying into club standards.
Speaker 2: What we're trying to do here, here's the door. And
Speaker 2: the reality is, even though I think Romi is in.
Speaker 3: His rights to do what he's done, the fact that
Speaker 3: he didn't stay at Concord and decided to go with
Speaker 3: the Chiefs shows he's probably not sold completely on the
Speaker 3: vision at the Tigers. And it's a way, you know,
Speaker 3: if I'm Benji, I'm thinking, is he fully buying in here?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: And then that becomes a roadblock to what Benji is
Speaker 3: trying to do. So from a football point of view,
Speaker 3: I understand it has something gone on outside of that,
Speaker 3: who knows. There was a post on social media that
Speaker 3: Triple M had that said I think it was Danny
Speaker 3: Widelid that was suggesting that since the P and G move,
Speaker 3: that the relationship between Romey and Benji maybe hasn't been
Speaker 3: as great and Romy's father liked that post.
Speaker 1: So Fatima, what what do we think the reason is?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they were tight. Yeah. Do you think
Speaker 1: it was just a P and G move? Do you
Speaker 1: think there's been an attitude change at Concord? And I
Speaker 1: guess the question I really want to ask you is,
Speaker 1: how will history remember Jerome Lewaite's stay at Concord. Has
Speaker 1: it been a success and has it lived up to
Speaker 1: the hype which we all thought and anticipated that we
Speaker 1: would have when he left Penrith for such a big move.
Speaker 3: This is a hard one because, like you said, they
Speaker 3: started off the season doing pretty well, and then if
Speaker 3: he had and if they kept on that trajectory and
Speaker 3: he did still leave at the end of the season,
Speaker 3: you'd say, Yep, you know it was a success. I
Speaker 3: still think I absolutely, like you know, knowing Romy that
Speaker 3: when people say that he's lifted the standards there, I
Speaker 3: agree with that. Obviously he was a magnet for other
Speaker 3: players to come there. So it just depends. If your
Speaker 3: yardstick is finals footy, then you say, well, no, it
Speaker 3: hasn't been a success, and you think about how much
Speaker 3: money it cost them. You at one point two million
Speaker 3: dollars a season, and then you'd say, no, it hasn't
Speaker 3: been a success. I don't know how it'll reflect on Romy.
Speaker 3: Romy is a guy, he's a leader. He's a guy
Speaker 3: who can galvanize the group. Whether he can galvanize them
Speaker 3: for the rest of the season and somehow salvage something
Speaker 3: from the season, then maybe that changes how he's remembered
Speaker 3: it at the Tigers. But I wouldn't say it's been
Speaker 3: a complete failure. But obviously on the footy fields so
Speaker 3: far we haven't seen the results.
Speaker 1: I still can't help but think though a team of that.
Speaker 1: This goes back to Shane Richardson, and Richard's well respected
Speaker 1: throughout the game. We know that. But he decided in
Speaker 1: his wisdom to get Jerome Louy to Concord, he had
Speaker 1: to include these clauses in his contract. And as you
Speaker 1: said before, quite rightly, it allowed Jerome every year or
Speaker 1: almost to go there and test the market. It must
Speaker 1: have driven fans mad to think that their elite player
Speaker 1: every year almost can go out there and see if
Speaker 1: anyone can do I will make a better offer for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and here's the thing.
Speaker 3: At the time, the Tigers had one three wooden spoons.
Speaker 3: So I understand from an administrative point of view, from
Speaker 3: Richer's point of view, why those clauses might have felt necessary.
Speaker 3: You know, it's maybe that last you know, dangling that
Speaker 3: character get him like.
Speaker 2: Over the line.
Speaker 3: But the problem for Tigers fans is, like you said,
Speaker 3: then they had to live through the headlines.
Speaker 2: Is he staying? Is he going?
Speaker 3: He only ever really half you know, would commit publicly
Speaker 3: that he was all in and then he wasn't. At
Speaker 3: the end of the day, he's clearly not buying in
Speaker 3: into whatever the vision is. And you know, good on
Speaker 3: Benji for saying we need to move forward.
Speaker 1: Eight out of ten in terms of losses, most people
Speaker 1: think they're gone. Are you a believer that they can
Speaker 1: pull out a miracle and make the fin or is
Speaker 1: it curtains for the sixteenth consecutive year.
Speaker 3: I don't think they can make the finals. And what
Speaker 3: we haven't said in all of this is, yes, you
Speaker 3: can coincide Romey's decision with their slide on the ladder.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, too, they've been without Adam
Speaker 3: Deuey for periods. They've been without Samuel la Fanu, who
Speaker 3: I reckon was probably the form player before he got
Speaker 3: injured at pic Corrisale wasn't there for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 3: so they've had excuses as to.
Speaker 2: Why they haven't performed.
Speaker 3: I'd like to think that Benji is the kind of
Speaker 3: coach that can galvanize this script to the rest of
Speaker 3: the season so it doesn't completely fall apart. But I
Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be enough for them to
Speaker 3: make a final.
Speaker 1: Let's stay in Western Sydney and I want to ask
Speaker 1: you about Paramatta because they look like they are going
Speaker 1: to sign Jerome lit White to a one year contract.
Speaker 1: Now Paramatta has gone down this path with Jonah Peasant
Speaker 1: and even if you want to go back to Zach Lomax,
Speaker 1: they signed him for four years and after one year
Speaker 1: he left. The club is becoming a transit lounge. And
Speaker 1: do you think Paramounta is wise to sign Louife for
Speaker 1: such a small amount of time, not forgetting for team
Speaker 1: of the World Cup is on as well, so the
Speaker 1: time Jerome gets there and then leaves, it's only about
Speaker 1: nine months.
Speaker 3: Really, it is an interesting one because if you take
Speaker 3: the Jonah Pezet situation, you would say that that was
Speaker 3: an experiment that failed didn't really work out as they
Speaker 3: would have hoped. It makes me wonder. And I know
Speaker 3: the Knights offer Dylan Brown a ten year deal and
Speaker 3: that's you know, that blows them completely out of the water.
Speaker 3: But I wonder how much now, reflecting on how well
Speaker 3: Dylan Brown's doing at the Knights, if they've fumbled that
Speaker 3: a little bit because I haven't been able to find
Speaker 3: a replacement for him, would I sign Luai for a year?
Speaker 3: It just depends on what roles as plan is. And
Speaker 3: we could have an answer on Lui in the next
Speaker 3: couple of days. It's looking like And obviously the Bears
Speaker 3: are sort of going to have a guy at him
Speaker 3: as well, but is it one year so they can
Speaker 3: have a go at Burden potentially maybe Cameron Monster if
Speaker 3: the storm to lock him in before November one and
Speaker 3: he's got that relationship with Jason Roles from the time
Speaker 3: of Roles is in Melbourne as an assistant, or Lorenzo Talentina,
Speaker 3: who's a talented twenty year old half back that they've
Speaker 3: coming through. Is that giving him one more year of development?
Speaker 3: So it just depends on what Rauls is thinking, you know,
Speaker 3: and look, he will make their team better and with
Speaker 3: due respect to peasant, romy still is a full time
Speaker 3: Premiership winner. He's one on origin with Mitch Moses, so
Speaker 3: he will improve their roster. But I think the bigger
Speaker 3: problem for Ills fans is they still don't really know
Speaker 3: what Roles's plans for the halves are moving forward.
Speaker 1: Simply a bit confused at Paramount. A lot of the
Speaker 1: fans certainly are in terms of where their future is,
Speaker 1: what path they're taking, and how are they going to
Speaker 1: get to this promised land which we've been waiting forty
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 3: Considering what you know we've seen from Jerome at the Tigers,
Speaker 3: do you think gets the right move for Roles try
Speaker 3: and get him.
Speaker 2: In for one year.
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't do that. I think these quick fixes
Speaker 1: in regular league don't work. I wouldn't get him in
Speaker 1: there for one year. I think they've got to look
Speaker 1: to ParaMed I've got to instilled in their jersey, in
Speaker 1: that logo which was so special in the nineteen eighties,
Speaker 1: what it means to play for PARAMATTERA, not just short
Speaker 1: term fixes. They don't always work. Getting a player in
Speaker 1: for one year I think sends a bad signal. It's
Speaker 1: a sign that the club is unstable and they don't
Speaker 1: know where they're going, and they're just trying to find
Speaker 1: anyone to stick a band aid over the problem which
Speaker 1: have been looming out there for years. Jason Rowls is
Speaker 1: a good coach, there's no doubt about it. But his
Speaker 1: tenure at Paramatta has not been a success. There's no
Speaker 1: sugarcoating that, and I think they've got to start to
Speaker 1: look for going out in the market and trying to
Speaker 1: buy some players that they can get for two, three
Speaker 1: four years, not just sort of sugar hit where it's
Speaker 1: for nine months. Look, it may well work. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Jerames is a very good player, but I think for
Speaker 1: the culture of the club, for the future of the club,
Speaker 1: they should look elsewhere. Talking of the Bulldogs, what do
Speaker 1: you make of that? Because they got flogged by the
Speaker 1: canber Raiders in the weekend. That had a bit of
Speaker 1: a period there where there was some success, but we've
Speaker 1: gone right back to where we are now. And again
Speaker 1: I asked you about the finals before the Tigers. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Dogs can get there now thoughts.
Speaker 3: I think they're in a I know they got powered
Speaker 3: up by Canberra, but also can I just say as
Speaker 3: a camera fan. That was a very frustrating game because
Speaker 3: I sat there going where was this like fifteen weeks ago? Anyway,
Speaker 3: I think they look like a more improved team Canterbury.
Speaker 3: What worried me was before Stephen Crichton was stretched off
Speaker 3: with that neck nerve injury, so that the attack started
Speaker 3: to look a bit pedestrian again. And then Sean O'Sullivan
Speaker 3: comes in, who really is their only genuine half back,
Speaker 3: straightens the attack and has a hand in there.
Speaker 2: Too late tries.
Speaker 3: So I just think, you know, and I feel like
Speaker 3: Galvin has been unfairly targeted for all their attacking this year.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's the problem. I just think they
Speaker 3: don't have a number seven. It'll be interesting to see
Speaker 3: what Siro does this week with Stephen Crichton. We are
Speaker 3: hearing that his injury is not as bad as suspected.
Speaker 3: There is even a small chance he might play this weekend,
Speaker 3: whether he goes back to burden at number six, moves
Speaker 3: him into this from the centers into number six, or
Speaker 3: whether he you know, gives Sewn O'Sullivan a crack. So look,
Speaker 3: I don't there's such a log jam between those six,
Speaker 3: seven and all the way down to you know, thirteen fourteen,
Speaker 3: so they do have a difficulty run home, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know. They're another one who might miss the
Speaker 3: finals like Canberra. You know, Canber's no.
Speaker 1: Chance as I wrote, and Bulldogs by today, Fatima. Some
Speaker 1: of those Western Sydney clubs are really in porch shape.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned the Eels, Dogs and Tigers, three issues
Speaker 1: we've just discussed. Thank goodness for the Penrith Panthers. They're
Speaker 1: saving the vast Western Sydney from NRL embarrassment.
Speaker 2: With the new South Wales Blues.
Speaker 3: They defied all the odds going up to sun Corp
Speaker 3: winning the decider.
Speaker 2: Laurie Daily easily, you.
Speaker 3: Know, the most underseieged man in rugby league at the time. Bulldog,
Speaker 3: you were there, you're his really close mate. Before we
Speaker 3: talk about the Blues, let's talk about Lorrie. He was
Speaker 3: so he was emotional. As soon as full time went,
Speaker 3: he saw him waving to the crowd. They were cheering him.
Speaker 3: He had tears in his eyes. I bet you're pretty
Speaker 3: happy for him and proud of your close mate.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. He was under a lot of scrutiny, some
Speaker 1: of it fair, some of it unfair. A lot of
Speaker 1: it was personal, which I thought was unfair. Look, we
Speaker 1: in the media have an obligation to query, scrutinize and debate.
Speaker 1: I think some of the arm, some of the flack
Speaker 1: flung at Lorrie I thought was unfair. And in the end, Fatima,
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like a smart ass, but
Speaker 1: he who laughs last laughs loudest, and Lourie has given
Speaker 1: it to his critics, each and every one of them,
Speaker 1: with one of the most comprehensive Blues victories I can
Speaker 1: remember in recent years. And it was justification for Lorry
Speaker 1: in terms of his selections, in terms of his tactics,
Speaker 1: in terms of his ability to lift the side, in
Speaker 1: terms of the criticism directed him him, in terms of
Speaker 1: them being such heavy underdogs. No one gave the Blues
Speaker 1: a chance. No one gave them a chance. And I
Speaker 1: kept saying to people, without saying like a dickhead in hindsight,
Speaker 1: I kept saying, it's one all, get it through your heads,
Speaker 1: it's one to one. We have not lost this series.
Speaker 1: And I had it in a gut feeling word from
Speaker 1: the start, I should say that the Blues would go
Speaker 1: up there and they'd put on a master class, and
Speaker 1: the performance in Melbourne was a poor one. It was
Speaker 1: always going to be better than that, and everything Laurie
Speaker 1: touched that game turned to gold and all the critics
Speaker 1: can now eat humble pie and coins that can go
Speaker 1: away and sook for a year because New South Wales
Speaker 1: now are the supreme nation or stuff, I should say
Speaker 1: in terms of state of Origin.
Speaker 3: I must admit after that game too, I do remember thinking,
Speaker 3: why does it feel like the Blues have lost a
Speaker 3: series and there was still a game to go? So
Speaker 3: I do agree there was a bit of that, you know,
Speaker 3: and you are right there were things, especially after the
Speaker 3: first two game that you could criticize Laurie for the
Speaker 3: selectors for. But you know, but even going into game three,
Speaker 3: you know Leah mardin coming into the side. I know
Speaker 3: people say, oh, there's guys that are just made for Origin,
Speaker 3: and he's one of those guys. He wasn't playing really
Speaker 3: good at all. He paid four games, he was a
Speaker 3: little bit underwhelming. Bradman Best had only just come back
Speaker 3: from a hamstring injury, and even though to me the
Speaker 3: side looked well balanced, I still worried a little bit
Speaker 3: that maybe he wasn't making the right calls. But you
Speaker 3: know Bradman best does a repeat of twenty twenty four
Speaker 3: and the decider Leah Mardin for me is probably one
Speaker 3: of the well paynhats was incredible in that game as well,
Speaker 3: but one of the best forwards on the field.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think what it does too. I think we can now
Speaker 1: finally and emphatically put to bed any debate about Nathan
Speaker 1: Cleary's greatness. I said before State of Origin, Nathan Cleary
Speaker 1: is a great who is heading headfirst toward regular league immortality.
Speaker 1: I don't think he particularly needed to win the decider
Speaker 1: for that to happen, but he's won it. He had
Speaker 1: three cracks at it before. It was almost like the
Speaker 1: last frontier that he hadn't quite conquered. He now conquered unbelievably.
Speaker 1: Two tries set up another one, and Nathan's performance in
Speaker 1: Game three up there at Hostile Sun Corpse Stadium proved
Speaker 1: once and for all that he is one of the
Speaker 1: all time greats, and certainly the greatest of the modern era.
Speaker 1: And for Nathan's detractors, I think that can now just
Speaker 1: squirrel away and hide under a rock, because Nathan's done it.
Speaker 1: He's done it well. Some of the names. I want
Speaker 1: to mention Hudson, Young Layer, Martin, the Bash Brothers. They
Speaker 1: were unbelievable in that game. Paynehas's first half was out
Speaker 1: of this world. He is just a machine. Payeharp I
Speaker 1: thought Mitchell Moses' kicking game was unbelievable. His general play
Speaker 1: wasn't brilliant, but his kicking game was.
Speaker 2: His long kicking game was.
Speaker 1: Out of this world. You mentioned Bradman Best. There wasn't
Speaker 1: a bad player in that blue side, and for them
Speaker 1: to go up there and not only win but win, well, look,
Speaker 1: there's an elephant in the room. We should touch on it.
Speaker 1: There was the Bradman Best dry which replays him indicated
Speaker 1: did flick Jack Bosstok's finger and went forward. But crime
Speaker 1: me a river, Crime me a river. We've been on
Speaker 1: the end of so many dug decisions over so many years.
Speaker 1: Queensland get one that goes against them and the tears
Speaker 1: start flowing across from col and Gata into tweed heads. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't particularly care. Look at the scoreboard. It's two
Speaker 1: to one. Queensland's now lost two of the last three series.
Speaker 1: Billy Slater's won four of his last ten, so we'ren't
Speaker 1: we going to start to question Billy Slater as Queensland
Speaker 1: coach when.
Speaker 3: Well, probably not straight away because that's not what Queenslanders do.
Speaker 3: But speaking of coaching features, everyone seems to suspect that,
Speaker 3: reading between the lines of what Lurie's been saying since origin,
Speaker 3: that he's not going to coach next year.
Speaker 2: If anyone would know, it's your bulled on what do
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 1: Look, I don't think Laurie will coach next year. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's mcgart feeling. Look, I haven't Laurie hasn't come
Speaker 1: out and said it publicly. So until Laurie says it publicly,
Speaker 1: I guess we're all guessing a fraction. But I'd be
Speaker 1: stunned if Lurie's back next year. And it does leave
Speaker 1: an interesting proposition for the new South Walge Rugby League
Speaker 1: because we all seem to think that Ivan Cleary will
Speaker 1: coach the Blues from twenty twenty eight. Of course, it
Speaker 1: leaves a gap year of twenty twenty seven. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: sure Dave Trodden at the new South Iage Ruge League
Speaker 1: would love Larry to come back for one more year,
Speaker 1: but I think Lorry's days are done in charge of
Speaker 1: the Blues. I think if he had any England to
Speaker 1: come back, I think victory almost ended up the Deemer.
Speaker 1: I think it was a beautiful way to Lauriy to
Speaker 1: go out an amazing win, a win which will go
Speaker 1: down in Origin Flare go down in Origin history, one
Speaker 1: of the greatest upsets we've seen in Origin. What better
Speaker 1: way if Lorrie does pull a pin for him to
Speaker 1: leave the Origin arena, If it is just.
Speaker 3: For one year until Ivan Cleary can come in in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight, who do you think?
Speaker 1: It is a hard one year? Yeah, it is just
Speaker 1: a year, And I think it's going to be very
Speaker 1: hard to tell a coach for a team that you've
Speaker 1: got one year. What happens Hypothetically if that coach wins
Speaker 1: three mil do you then say sorry, you're out. It's
Speaker 1: going to be a very difficult one. Look on face value,
Speaker 1: you think that King would be favorite. That King was
Speaker 1: the other candidate with Lori for this tenure, So you
Speaker 1: think King, you would come in for a year. Look,
Speaker 1: is there a possibility that maybe I've in coaches Origin
Speaker 1: next year and that allows Peter Wallace to take over
Speaker 1: the Reins mid season. That would obviously help him snowball
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty eight when he's full time coach. Just
Speaker 1: a couple of options to throw out there. I don't
Speaker 1: know the answer. No one does at the moment because
Speaker 1: Lourie hasn't formally stood down. But if Lurie does, I
Speaker 1: think they'll go with.
Speaker 3: Matt King, yeah, which you know, and there are a
Speaker 3: couple of other sort of He's got some really good
Speaker 3: assistant coaches, Laurie Daily, so and you know, if I'm
Speaker 3: Matt King, I know Matt King has NRL head coaching ambitions,
Speaker 3: But you know, you take over for one year and
Speaker 3: then maybe you then have to take a step back
Speaker 3: to Ivan Cleary. But that's you're taking a step back
Speaker 3: to Ivan Cleary. Like imagine as a coach in waiting,
Speaker 3: what you learn from a guy who's won four premierships
Speaker 3: maybe five premierships by the time he finishes. So it's
Speaker 3: not actually a bad deal for an up and coming coach.
Speaker 1: Let's jump back to Queens that, okay, because I want
Speaker 1: to ask you about this was an unlosable series if
Speaker 1: Laurie lost the unlosable last year, which I don't think
Speaker 1: unlosable is a right term because I don't think any
Speaker 1: origin is unlosable because every game is different. But if
Speaker 1: Billy did lose the unlosable this year, is he under pressure?
Speaker 1: Should he be under pressure? And yeah, is Billy safe
Speaker 1: for next year? Sorry for Tim, Let's be honest. If
Speaker 1: we cut to the chaser, Queensland choked. They choke And
Speaker 1: it's a very difficult word to spit out for Tima
Speaker 1: because it's a very heavy handed word, but they choked
Speaker 1: and froze under the pressure of expectation and being favorites.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And that was a very poor performance from a side
Speaker 1: everyone thought had these lofty standards and they were had
Speaker 1: their pants pulled down early by the Blues and they
Speaker 1: kept their decks around their ankles for the whole game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well they were absolutely ambushed, you know, And I think
Speaker 3: they were ambushed by the intensity by the Blues energy.
Speaker 3: How they would not expect that the Blues would come out,
Speaker 3: you know, with that sort of fire in the belly
Speaker 3: really surprised me. I thought, you know, Billy Slater probably
Speaker 3: could have done a better job in preparing them mentally
Speaker 3: for that one. It was almost like they were a
Speaker 3: little bit clocked off mentally. The Moraines and you don't
Speaker 3: normally say that about the Moraines at sun Corp, especially
Speaker 3: in a decider. Look, I think you know Billy Slater too.
Speaker 3: I don't think he said he's a bit like Laurie,
Speaker 3: but as Billy probably wants to coach more than what
Speaker 3: Laurie does. But it has been quite coy about his
Speaker 3: future when he's been asked about it.
Speaker 2: I don't think the qr L will.
Speaker 3: Be tapping him on the shoulder though, whether they should
Speaker 3: be or not it's probably a different story. But I
Speaker 3: don't think I can't see them doing that.
Speaker 1: I've got no problem with that. I don't think Billy
Speaker 1: deserves to be putted either. My only query in all
Speaker 1: this is if that was a new South Wales coach
Speaker 1: you'd lost two out of three, he would be under
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Speaker 1: This comes in from Greg Abraham out there at Lovely
Speaker 1: Saint Clair, Okay, New South Wales, Bradman Best's try it
Speaker 1: was a knock on. Why can't we see the video
Speaker 1: that the bunker sees from the corner post A good question.
Speaker 3: So the NROL bunker sees all of angles, and sometimes
Speaker 3: the angle that is used by the bunker to determine
Speaker 3: a decision isn't always the one that is played in
Speaker 3: the broadcast. My understanding that the NRL said the angles
Speaker 3: used to determine that in the high ball contest was
Speaker 3: actually broadcast.
Speaker 2: The issue isn't necessary with this one. For me, it's
Speaker 2: not about angles.
Speaker 3: It's the fact that you could see he touched the
Speaker 3: ball from all the angles that were shown anyway. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like I said, I'm not going to complain too
Speaker 3: much about it. I'm a blue I'm glad it went
Speaker 3: in our way. But it was one of those things.
Speaker 3: I know, we're talking about angles, cornerpost angles, what's being broadcast,
Speaker 3: what's not being broadcast? But in multiple angles that we
Speaker 3: saw in the broadcast, we could sort of see Bostock's
Speaker 3: fingers sort of bend back a little bit when it
Speaker 3: touches the ball.
Speaker 1: So look, the bunker's a big part of our game.
Speaker 1: I don't always like the bunker because I think they stick.
Speaker 1: There'd be being far too much. But yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: infallible either, yep. Yeah, I think they Their success rate
Speaker 1: is in the ninety percent, so it doesn't attire there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, sometimes they might get one wrong. It just happens.
Speaker 1: It's still a human being who's controlling the bunker, yep,
Speaker 1: So it happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, speaking of yeah it is, it is tough.
Speaker 3: But one weird one I'm speaking of camera angles was
Speaker 3: actually from the Canberra Bulldogs game where the Cannabury challenged
Speaker 3: of forty twenty. Condor Tracy was adamant that it wasn't
Speaker 3: a forty twenty and somehow remarkably, even though it's trying
Speaker 3: to determine whether where a ball went out over the sideline,
Speaker 3: they didn't have that camerangle. So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It can be very messy sometimes. I think the Jack
Speaker 3: Bosta one was just a human error.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Bulldog Blair from GIMPI says in the middle of a
Speaker 3: club crisis, the Broncos response was to strip Gordon Tallis's
Speaker 3: name off the conference wall bs exclamation line.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was bs absolutely yes in capital letters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a ridiculous. I thought it was petty.
Speaker 1: Gordon Tallis has been one of the greatest players the
Speaker 1: Broncos have ever had. It won multiple premierships there. He
Speaker 1: represented Queensland and Australia from the Broncos and Gordy has
Speaker 1: a right in the media to question every single club.
Speaker 1: That's what we do in the media. We scrutinize and
Speaker 1: if the Broncos can't handle that, well then I think
Speaker 1: they have become far too thin skinned. So to do
Speaker 1: that to Gordon Tallis, I thought it was poor form.
Speaker 1: I thought it embarrassed Gordon. I thought it was unnecessary
Speaker 1: and I think in due course down the track, don't
Speaker 1: be surprised if that decision is reversed.
Speaker 3: What annoyed me about it was it dragged Ali Brigganshaw
Speaker 3: into something that wasn't It wasn't her fault, It wasn't
Speaker 3: her fault, It had nothing to do with her.
Speaker 2: And it's one of those things too.
Speaker 3: It's that you could find a way to honor Ali
Speaker 3: Brickntrol without doing that to Gordon as well. So yeah, anyway, yeah,
Speaker 3: there the Broncos, you know, we spoke about Canterbury and
Speaker 3: the Western Sydney teams and crisis.
Speaker 2: The Broncos are in a similar boat.
Speaker 3: Mark Waters from Umina Beach says col Reid Marni's try
Speaker 3: a double movement and then called Jack Howarth tried.
Speaker 2: Not a double movement. I call BS.
Speaker 1: I'm both YEA agreed it was BS on both. I
Speaker 1: saw the Jack House try and it was a double
Speaker 1: movement every day o the week. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the eneral of going to say when they have to
Speaker 1: be queried on that decision. He was brought down shore
Speaker 1: of the line, his momentum was stopped, and then he
Speaker 1: went again. It's a double movement every day other week.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how they got that one so
Speaker 1: badly wrong, but they did. And I thought the Red
Speaker 1: Marney tried down there at brook Fail was a try.
Speaker 1: Similar situation. He reached out, but I know he reached
Speaker 1: out for Tim, but his momentum also reached him out,
Speaker 1: so he just plumped the ball down on the line.
Speaker 1: So I think Mark got both these right. I think
Speaker 1: Reads was a try and Jack House wasn't a try.
Speaker 2: I agree both of them were bs.
Speaker 1: We agree