Speaker 1: On Scorne Lives Australia.
Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show.
Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show. Coming
Speaker 3: up tonight, the Prime Minister under renewed pressure to secure
Speaker 3: one on one meeting with President Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: The panel will weigh in on that and much more.
Speaker 3: We'll take a close look at the hate fest that
Speaker 3: is the Glastonbury Music Festival with Kosher Gaeta and they
Speaker 3: always droll.
Speaker 1: Alex Stein will have the latest from the US.
Speaker 3: Also tonight, we'll speak to an Australian man being sued
Speaker 3: by Andrew and Tristan Tate. He has some explosive footage
Speaker 3: to share with us, and left is losing it has.
Speaker 1: A musical flair tonight, bet you when you're country back
Speaker 1: God heard you, when you're country back back.
Speaker 4: You can't have that.
Speaker 3: But First Prime Minister Anthony Albernize is failure to secure
Speaker 3: a meeting with US President Donald Trump continues to cause concern.
Speaker 3: The PM was asked earlier today about any developments in
Speaker 3: securing this crucial meeting with our biggest and most important ally.
Speaker 1: When do you expect to sit down with Donald Trump? Oh,
Speaker 1: when we.
Speaker 5: Have a meeting, We'll have a meeting, and when it's scheduled,
Speaker 5: that will occur.
Speaker 3: Really, that's the best you can do. A meeting will
Speaker 3: occur once it's scheduled. Let's bring in our panel, senior
Speaker 3: writer at News called Patrick Carline and a Dony Media
Speaker 3: founder Lisa Gotta Patrick.
Speaker 1: I'll start with you.
Speaker 3: The PM seems to think the US needs us more
Speaker 3: than we need then we have plenty of crucial business
Speaker 3: to discuss. We've got orcas, we've got defense spending and
Speaker 3: of course a trade deal.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, look, Elbow doesn't want to be on the international
Speaker 2: dance floor at the moment. I mean, the world is
Speaker 2: changing week by week. It's Ukraine, Iran, America and Donald
Speaker 2: Trump are imposing themselves in this massive way. And we
Speaker 2: rely on America. Whether you like Donald Trump or not,
Speaker 2: they are our most important friend. Albert hasn't had a
Speaker 2: meeting with him yet. It's becoming the elephant in the room.
Speaker 2: It's like it's sort of best friends who won't catch
Speaker 2: up on speaking terms only at this moment. And you
Speaker 2: look at the Kevin Rudd factor as well. He's sort
Speaker 2: of awkwardly placed because he bagged Donald Trump before the election,
Speaker 2: and you sort of wonder our Australia's national interests because
Speaker 2: of orcas and because of tariffs being affected by the
Speaker 2: fact that we can't actually sit down with our best
Speaker 2: friend and have a chat about it.
Speaker 3: I think there certainly are Lisa Patrick mentioned Kevin rud
Speaker 3: the elephant in the room, and certainly Donald Trump's former
Speaker 3: polster Brent Buchanan has said in recent days that Australia
Speaker 3: has to dumb Kevin right as it's US ambassador that
Speaker 3: is becoming a major barrier to Anthony Alberanizi securing a
Speaker 3: meeting with the US President.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and really you don't need a crystal ball to
Speaker 6: know that we've been talking about this for as long
Speaker 6: as writer has been in that position. And if you
Speaker 6: step back and look at the interview that he did
Speaker 6: this morning with Peter Stefanovic, he said it was about
Speaker 6: though it focused on investing in relationships, and he was
Speaker 6: talking about the Pacific. Well, that's all grand, but the
Speaker 6: relationship he needs to invest in is having one with
Speaker 6: Donald Trump. And we've been saying this for month after
Speaker 6: month after month. And if he wants to look at relationships,
Speaker 6: you need to compare. Do I need the relationship with
Speaker 6: Donald Trump or the relationship with Kevin Rudd.
Speaker 7: Now, one would suggest at this point he needs to
Speaker 7: examine the Kevin Rudd relationship.
Speaker 6: And as Patrick said, there isn't great water under the
Speaker 6: bridge when it comes to Rudd's description of Trump. So
Speaker 6: Trump runs on personal relationships. I think that's where Albanezi
Speaker 6: needs to focus on right now, because it's almost as
Speaker 6: if he's on hold to the White House and the
Speaker 6: whole music is nothing but silent. So the next thing
Speaker 6: he's likely to hear from them is a letter about tariffs.
Speaker 3: Well, I tell you it was an ill advised appointment.
Speaker 1: At the time, I wrote as much.
Speaker 3: It was all a ridiculous boys club decision.
Speaker 1: Jobs for the boys.
Speaker 3: And I think it's now hurting us too much. Even
Speaker 3: the albn Easy government has to at some point admit
Speaker 3: it made a mistake.
Speaker 8: Here.
Speaker 3: It's still hurting our relationship with our biggest ally and
Speaker 3: he has to be removed. Sending in somewhere else where.
Speaker 3: It's going to be less of a problem. Now we've
Speaker 3: got a Victorian and a Queenslander on the panel, so
Speaker 3: this is going to be a good discussion. A war
Speaker 3: of words has broken out between the two states over
Speaker 3: GSD revenue. Queensland's Treasurer has said Victoria is getting an
Speaker 3: unfair share of revenue.
Speaker 9: Have a listen, Melbourne requires twice as much funding for fairies.
Speaker 10: As Brisbane, even though the patronage is different.
Speaker 9: On the Brown Snake, we've got four million visitors on
Speaker 9: the Yarra. No one's catching it and yet they get
Speaker 9: nearly double the funding of GST than what Queensland does
Speaker 9: for fairies.
Speaker 3: And needless to say, Premier just to Alan wasn't too
Speaker 3: happy without as ss.
Speaker 2: What a load of nonsense, What a load of misinformed nonsense.
Speaker 10: But the Northern States Treasurer wasn't done, claiming their overall
Speaker 10: GST share has been cut by billions so Victoria can
Speaker 10: keep its hospital lights on.
Speaker 9: Canber's carb up has sold Queensland down the river to
Speaker 9: keep Victoria afloat.
Speaker 1: That's the truth of it.
Speaker 2: Let me put it in language and in a way
Speaker 2: that the Queensland Treasurer can understand.
Speaker 1: It's just push it right.
Speaker 7: Also said that you're argument.
Speaker 1: Push responded to the facts speak for themselves. A potshot.
Speaker 10: The Premie is ignoring.
Speaker 11: The Queensland budgets black hole there eight plus eight b
Speaker 11: and plus black hole has got nothing to do with
Speaker 11: the circumstances here.
Speaker 3: Patrick, It's a little rich for just to Alan to
Speaker 3: be talking about black holes in budgets. It's Victoria that
Speaker 3: has the biggest set of any state in the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're about to hit two hundred billion
Speaker 2: up on the projection, so we're in the lead on
Speaker 2: that one. That's the only thing in Australia in the
Speaker 2: lead on at the moment. Look, I think the Queensland
Speaker 2: Treasure made a good point when we talked about gas.
Speaker 2: We stopped making we put all these controls on gas
Speaker 2: to the point back fifteen years ago on an ideological whim,
Speaker 2: and we're paying for it now because we don't produce gas.
Speaker 2: We don't have enough gas for ourselves. Queensland is going
Speaker 2: to have to produce that gas because we let ourselves down,
Speaker 2: or our government let us down so long ago. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was such a lack of planning. And it goes
Speaker 2: to you look at the desk as we are talking
Speaker 2: about and energy and all the rest. Victoria has been
Speaker 2: misserved for more than a decade and.
Speaker 3: Our opposition down here, the Libs, are thoroughly hopelessly so,
Speaker 3: which doesn't help matters.
Speaker 1: What do you make of this argument?
Speaker 3: Is Queensland helping to keep our lights on in Victoria?
Speaker 6: Well, you're right when it comes to gas, Queensland does
Speaker 6: the heavy lifting.
Speaker 7: It's our gas. It helps keep the lights on in Victoria.
Speaker 6: But that aside out of it goes down between politicians
Speaker 6: and a pot of money, is what they say, right,
Speaker 6: So this is what's led to this fight. I personally
Speaker 6: think the GST should stay in each state. If the
Speaker 6: GST is paid here, keep it in Queensland. But they
Speaker 6: will never agree to that.
Speaker 7: You look at this.
Speaker 6: Queensland is getting eighty five cents for every dollar of
Speaker 6: GST collected in this state right now. So that's why
Speaker 6: our treasure is fighting hard on this. My take on
Speaker 6: all of this, reader, and you think this is quite interesting.
Speaker 6: You've got Trump dropping the F bomb over in the States.
Speaker 6: A lot of people said, look that makes him relatable.
Speaker 6: A lot of the people who may not necessarily agree
Speaker 6: with his politics, look at that. When looked like that
Speaker 6: was real frustration, the real person coming out, Hey, you've
Speaker 6: got your sent to Alan, her popularity has dived.
Speaker 7: Perhaps profanity is now her solution. She thinks to try
Speaker 7: to boost her popularity in all of this.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's sort of tough talk. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it speaks to people right now
Speaker 3: because people in Victoria are hurting and the premiere playing
Speaker 3: tough with the Queensland Treasurer.
Speaker 1: I mean it brings a little bit hollow. But staying in.
Speaker 3: Victoria center Alan government is also being slammed for its
Speaker 3: culture wars. It's moving ahead with a state based Indigenous
Speaker 3: voice to Parliament.
Speaker 1: This is despite the fact.
Speaker 3: That Victorians rejected a federal voice in the referendum like
Speaker 3: every other state. But we're going to get this state
Speaker 3: based voice. It's part of the treaty negotiation. Something else
Speaker 3: we didn't vote for.
Speaker 1: Patrick.
Speaker 3: The thirty three member First People's Assembly of Victoria was
Speaker 3: set up by Labor in twenty eighteen. It's supposed to
Speaker 3: represent our indigenous population, but really, what's the participation, like Patrick,
Speaker 3: as far as people voting, as people, as far as
Speaker 3: people taking part.
Speaker 2: I think there's something like forty two hundred people who
Speaker 2: get to vote for this assembly. I'man out of a
Speaker 2: state population of what eight million, I'm not sure of that,
Speaker 2: but it is tiny and there is no mandate for
Speaker 2: this This actually makes me very angry. There is no
Speaker 2: mandate for the Victorian people to introduce this. We had
Speaker 2: a referendum, it got voted down for lots of reasons.
Speaker 2: There's been no ground swell since in Victoria. It's not
Speaker 2: something that anyone's talking about. And this has all sort
Speaker 2: of happened since about I think twenty eighteen. As you said,
Speaker 2: it's been very secretive. It's been about treaties, it's been
Speaker 2: about all this sort of business that hasn't been transparent.
Speaker 2: And to introduce this just shows how much Cintra Allen
Speaker 2: is out of touch with Victorian people. They're not talking
Speaker 2: about Indigenous rights or treaties of the month. They're talking
Speaker 2: about cost of living. They're talking about Victoria's state debt.
Speaker 3: But we had the Libs at a previous election be
Speaker 3: on board with a treaty at the last vote of
Speaker 3: the referendum.
Speaker 1: That took forever to come to a position.
Speaker 3: I mean, really, we are ill served in this state
Speaker 3: with the caliber of politicians from both sides. I mean,
Speaker 3: the Liberals I think share much of the blame on
Speaker 3: this issue, and so many others.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Look, the Libs have come out on this one.
Speaker 2: I think and said they'll unt and do it. But yes,
Speaker 2: they've been homeless, have been too busy fighting themselves.
Speaker 1: It's already progress.
Speaker 3: It was in place, put in place twenty eighteen, and
Speaker 3: then we're backing it. Previously, Lisa, the referendum was clear.
Speaker 3: Every state including Victoria, voted no. But it seems the
Speaker 3: will of the people is being ignored very quickly. It
Speaker 3: was only eighteen months ago we had this vote.
Speaker 6: You had what fifty four percent of Victorians voted know,
Speaker 6: so that's a resounding no, we do not want to
Speaker 6: be divided. And yet you've got the government now pushing
Speaker 6: ahead with this plan. And say they argue that they
Speaker 6: voted no against constitutional change. No, they very clearly voted no.
Speaker 6: They did not want to be divided as a state
Speaker 6: or as a country. And you've got this government now
Speaker 6: pushing ahead with it. And you're right, it's not listening
Speaker 6: to the voice of the people. And you're also right
Speaker 6: the fact that what they're concerned about is cost of living.
Speaker 6: They're not and the roads and the infrastructure, they're not
Speaker 6: worried about what's happening as far as indigenous body that's
Speaker 6: now going to have a say on everything. That affects
Speaker 6: indigenous matters. Well, again, we're having this conversation that we
Speaker 6: had around the time of the voice. What are the
Speaker 6: limitations around that, what are they going to have a
Speaker 6: say on? And what is the impact going to be?
Speaker 6: And at the point you've got a two hundred billion
Speaker 6: dollar debt in the state and you're paying what is it,
Speaker 6: ninety six thousand dollars in each of these thirty three
Speaker 6: people on this panel on this advisory battle.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the cost of the panel itself. And as
Speaker 3: you said, every policy decision in this state impacts the
Speaker 3: indigenous population because they're like the rest of us, are
Speaker 3: impacted by the decisions the state government makes. So they're
Speaker 3: going to have a very broad say in what happens.
Speaker 1: So we'll have to talk.
Speaker 3: About this again because I think there is going to
Speaker 3: be a lot of resistance to this.
Speaker 1: Before you go, though, the.
Speaker 3: Crime in Australia, particularly here in Victoria, is causing great
Speaker 3: deal of concern. It's leaving some business owners in extreme fear.
Speaker 3: Some like the owner we're about to hear from Mustafa,
Speaker 3: said they're closing up shop. There have been victim too
Speaker 3: many times and after this latest seekening unprovoked attack.
Speaker 1: Mustafa is going to be closing his cafe.
Speaker 10: Three times.
Speaker 12: This man entered Mustafa's cafe and while he thought it
Speaker 12: might mean trouble, he wasn't expecting this. The eleven eleven
Speaker 12: cafe has helped light up Buckley Street, but just seven
Speaker 12: months after opening, Mustafa he is switching them off.
Speaker 2: Snartworth it to lose my life for I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be safe anymore because you hear back twice and threen,
Speaker 2: so going back again, that's not worth it.
Speaker 4: He made the best coffee in Melbourne and I'll stand
Speaker 4: by that.
Speaker 7: He was a pillar of the community.
Speaker 2: Everyone gathered here.
Speaker 7: Now there's no place to gather. It really reflects how
Speaker 7: badly people are feeling here.
Speaker 1: They're not safe.
Speaker 7: It's just disgusting. It shouldn't be happening.
Speaker 3: It's so sad for that community to lose a business
Speaker 3: that was obviously very important.
Speaker 1: But for that young business.
Speaker 3: Owner who's obviously good at his job to have to
Speaker 3: close up his shop because he doesn't want to be
Speaker 3: assaulted again.
Speaker 2: Look that footage was awful, wasn't it just to watch.
Speaker 1: You look at Footscray.
Speaker 2: I think the assaults in that particular suburb of doubled
Speaker 2: annually from four years ago. You had a photographer killed
Speaker 2: there not long ago. You have machete attacks there, and
Speaker 2: it is just a reflection of a bigger law and
Speaker 2: order problem in Melbourne that's been festering for three four years,
Speaker 2: where you've got kids getting bail fifty times after committing
Speaker 2: aggravated burglaries or being involved in police pursuits. It doesn't
Speaker 2: feel safe anymore. And that poor blooke, he's just trying
Speaker 2: to do his thing, he's just trying to make a
Speaker 2: living and he gets assaulted and it causes in the stop.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a very serious problem.
Speaker 3: At least it was a serious problem up in Queensland.
Speaker 3: It was certainly an election issue. How crucial of an
Speaker 3: issue was it in the state election there because the
Speaker 3: Christal Fully government promised to be tough on crime and
Speaker 3: they were elected on that platform.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they certainly were. Well, we spoke about it for
Speaker 6: a long time, didn't we, especially the youth crime crisis
Speaker 6: in North Queensland, and David Cristophiley pushed really hard amongst
Speaker 6: his three strong messages was in fact adult crime, adult
Speaker 6: time and we've seen that welcomed here in this state.
Speaker 6: And I think we're leading the country when it comes
Speaker 6: to we're looking at what we're doing with bail laws
Speaker 6: and how we're treating youth offenders. But what you're looking
Speaker 6: at and look, I'm a Queensland and looking in from
Speaker 6: the outside reader and I was in Melbourne not long ago.
Speaker 6: But you've got a dual crisis there. You've got businesses
Speaker 6: shutting down at a record rate. I think it's a
Speaker 6: thirty three percent jump in the number of businesses that
Speaker 6: a happened to shut their doors. And then you've got
Speaker 6: the crime rates climbing. We spoke about it, what two
Speaker 6: weeks ago when I was on your program about the
Speaker 6: latest statistics showing that seventeen percent jumping crime. So it's
Speaker 6: social decay and the end of it, you do have
Speaker 6: to look at the government. So it falls squarely in
Speaker 6: their hands. And at the point time we were saying
Speaker 6: two weeks ago, well, they're saying, well, we need to.
Speaker 7: Push through all of this change.
Speaker 6: But then they changed mashete laws and they changed youth
Speaker 6: crime bail laws, but they put a delay on it
Speaker 6: for three months. So how serious are they if they
Speaker 6: need to put in the three month buffer sizes? If
Speaker 6: you're going to take some hard stands on these crime issues,
Speaker 6: then actually put the legislation in immediately.
Speaker 3: Lisa got our Patrick Carline, Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: your time tonight. Now Glastonbury has given us plenty of
Speaker 3: fodder on this program. For left is losing it in particular,
Speaker 3: and the music festival has come to symbolize just how
Speaker 3: hateful and divorced from reality much of the left has become.
Speaker 1: Timothy J.
Speaker 3: Lynch, a professor of American politics at the University of Melbourne,
Speaker 3: has pennde fantastic piece in Today's Australian about the festival,
Speaker 3: writing piling left wing hypocrisy upon middle class privilege of
Speaker 3: offers us a window into the appeal of alternatives. Donald
Speaker 3: Trump has given us one. For too long, a decadent
Speaker 3: elite preached the virtues of globalism, transnationalism and mass immigration.
Speaker 3: The result was an economic and cultural decline for pretty
Speaker 3: much everyone else. Let's bring in Sky News contributor Kosher Gata.
Speaker 1: Kosher.
Speaker 3: Professor Lynch notes that in Britain, their Trump, Nigel Farage,
Speaker 3: is more likely to BPM than the Conservative leader. He
Speaker 3: writes foraja's Reform, UK members did not fill many fields
Speaker 3: in Somerset they did fill ballot boxes in the local elections,
Speaker 3: and it makes an excellent point there.
Speaker 1: Reform is in many.
Speaker 3: Polls coming out ahead of Labor and the Tories.
Speaker 10: They sure are.
Speaker 8: It is definitely the ascendant political movement in the UK,
Speaker 8: starting with Brexitter, actually even before that, this has been
Speaker 8: a twenty year movement in the making that Nigel Frage
Speaker 8: has helmed through various positions, and we shall see. You know,
Speaker 8: many do think that he is destined to be the
Speaker 8: next PM. We certainly know who knows if that's going
Speaker 8: to happen or not. There's a lot of wood to chop,
Speaker 8: but we certainly know that the Tories have failed miserably,
Speaker 8: as have the traditional Republicans in the US and even
Speaker 8: the Liberal Party over here. They're not offering that alternative
Speaker 8: that he speaks of in that article very eloquently, and
Speaker 8: people really need one because the direction and the center
Speaker 8: of gravity of the culture for so long was just
Speaker 8: getting more and more bizarre, drifting the whole country, the
Speaker 8: whole culture of the whole system, more and more to
Speaker 8: the bizarre left, not even the moderate left. And sometimes
Speaker 8: you need a snap, like a boomerang back in the
Speaker 8: other direction and fraud. Certainly it seems to be providing
Speaker 8: that more than anybody else in the UK.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, let's stick with the US.
Speaker 3: Now, you were calling April when the media we're having
Speaker 3: an absolute meltdown blaming Donald Trump for destroying the economy
Speaker 3: with these tariffs, crashing the stock market.
Speaker 13: Out front toinate the breaking news A waitbout two and
Speaker 13: a half trillion dollars today gone in the route on
Speaker 13: Wall Street in response to Trump's trade war against one
Speaker 13: hundred and eighty five countries.
Speaker 1: Well, the news is all good now.
Speaker 3: The S and P five hundred is at a record high,
Speaker 3: but kosher.
Speaker 1: Have a look at how the media is reporting it.
Speaker 3: Let's have a good look at the New York Times first.
Speaker 3: They just can't help themselves. Even the good news is
Speaker 3: presented in some sort of a negative light, talking there
Speaker 3: about Trump's turmoil. But the reality is that despite what
Speaker 3: the experts told us about these tariffs being enormously inflationary,
Speaker 3: about them crashing the share market, crashing the economy, that
Speaker 3: has not been the experience thus far.
Speaker 8: It has not. I think the S and P is
Speaker 8: something shy of three percentage points above where it was
Speaker 8: on an inauguration. Granted, it did go through a lot
Speaker 8: of volatility, big downward swings and up swings, but you know,
Speaker 8: it's generally normalizing as people are getting used to Trump
Speaker 8: to dot Zho. Also, the market, the S and P
Speaker 8: is not the biggest driver, biggest thing that Trump is
Speaker 8: playing to this time around, because it doesn't really.
Speaker 1: Focus in every man exactly.
Speaker 8: And then the tariff revenue is coming into the tune
Speaker 8: of one hundred and fifty billion dollars or so to date,
Speaker 8: and predictions ranged from about three hundred to five hundred
Speaker 8: billion per year that would come from this. The external
Speaker 8: revenue service is Trump branded it. So we're about one
Speaker 8: third to one fifth of the way there already if
Speaker 8: you believe those estimates, and you're absolutely right.
Speaker 7: It did not people down to.
Speaker 8: Mass inflation on every good everywhere. Maybe a little bit
Speaker 8: here and there, but by and large, the markets and
Speaker 8: the supply chain tend to absorb those increases before they
Speaker 8: pass it on. It's not a straight line passed through
Speaker 8: to the American consumer, because the American consumer market is
Speaker 8: the most valuable, desirable market.
Speaker 1: In the world.
Speaker 8: That was Trump's thesis. It had never been tried before
Speaker 8: in modern economic times. He's trying it and it seems
Speaker 8: to to be working.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 3: Let's hear a little bit more about the billions in
Speaker 3: new revenue coming in through these tariffs, some one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty one.
Speaker 1: Billion so far.
Speaker 14: Here is CNBC how much we've been collecting in revenues.
Speaker 14: And I did this in part because Wilfred's here and
Speaker 14: he can talk about the UK trade deal.
Speaker 7: But just this is the monthly.
Speaker 14: Numbers, and they have gone up a lot. June has
Speaker 14: actually set for another big increase of twenty seven billion.
Speaker 14: That is money coming into US coffers from tariffs. We
Speaker 14: are collecting a lot of revenue so far, Guys one
Speaker 14: hundred and twenty one billion dollars has flowed into the
Speaker 14: US government since the start of the fiscal years.
Speaker 3: And that is, in the eyes of Americans, a big
Speaker 3: win at kosher. Trump was elected on an America First platform,
Speaker 3: and this is precisely what he said he was.
Speaker 1: Going to deliver.
Speaker 3: I still remember, because it was only a few weeks ago,
Speaker 3: the enormous meltdown.
Speaker 1: We saw it right here in Australia.
Speaker 3: Every so called expert saying that this is economically irresponsible,
Speaker 3: it can't work, and yet it is working and pretty
Speaker 3: much as he explained it would.
Speaker 8: One hundred percent. I think the fall from grace of
Speaker 8: so called experts has been second to none in recent
Speaker 8: times on everything, and something like basic economics or just
Speaker 8: modern economics even is not something that there can be
Speaker 8: an expert in because it has never been tried in
Speaker 8: this way, at least in the last half century, if
Speaker 8: not longer. There have been some examples here and there,
Speaker 8: like Ronald Reagan was charging tariffs on the motorcycle category
Speaker 8: to save Harley Davidson, which he did do, but by
Speaker 8: and large, it was never done in this way. And
Speaker 8: Trump has been talking about it for forty years, well
Speaker 8: before he entered politics. He now has the bully pulpit.
Speaker 8: He's done it. And the principle again is simple that
Speaker 8: the most desirable consumer market in the world is a US.
Speaker 8: You want access to that market, you've got to pay
Speaker 8: a toll on the way in. And it seems to
Speaker 8: be working. And at least that CNBC journalist seemed to
Speaker 8: be pretty measured and even keeled about it and even
Speaker 8: a little bit pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 3: Now the White House has announced that President Trump will
Speaker 3: be in Florida for the opening of Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what we're calling it.
Speaker 3: Here is White House Press Secretary Caroline Livett on.
Speaker 11: A scheduling note. Tomorrow, President Trump will travel to the
Speaker 11: great state of Florida to attend the opening of a
Speaker 11: new illegal alien detention center located at Dade Collier Training
Speaker 11: and Transition Airport, alongside Secretary Christinome, Governor Ron de Santis,
Speaker 11: Congressman Byron Donalds, and other.
Speaker 1: State and local leaders. We hope to see many of
Speaker 1: you there.
Speaker 11: The facility is in the heart of the Everglades and
Speaker 11: will be informally known as Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 3: Kasha, what do you make of Alligator Alcatraz? I can't
Speaker 3: imagine too many Democrats going and protesting on its gates.
Speaker 1: It sounds pretty ominous.
Speaker 8: I think they might think twice before running their pickets
Speaker 8: for that one. You know, this thing hits every note
Speaker 8: of what the Trump administration is about immigration, and really
Speaker 8: master deportations of illegals is the centerpiece of his policy agenda.
Speaker 8: As we all know, Florida is one of the best
Speaker 8: run states in the country and has been very cooperative
Speaker 8: with the federal government in trying to execute this immigration agenda,
Speaker 8: unlike other states, sanctuary cities, etc. That try to stymy it.
Speaker 8: Then you've got the optics of Trump himself visiting Christy
Speaker 8: Nome Dessant is going to be there in the Florida
Speaker 8: Everglades where it physically is surrounded by swamps that have
Speaker 8: lots and lots of alligators and pythons over there, which
Speaker 8: it's sort of this natural moat, and you can just
Speaker 8: see Trump and his truth social and all that is
Speaker 8: going to make Hay from this get ready for some
Speaker 8: interesting and funny tweets out of there. But more importantly,
Speaker 8: I think it's just the imagery of it really is
Speaker 8: going to stick in the minds of people about what
Speaker 8: he's trying to do with getting illegals out in cooperation
Speaker 8: with states and holding them in detention centers that are
Speaker 8: not meant to be pleasant.
Speaker 3: Alligator alcatraz, I mean, that's just genius.
Speaker 1: I've got to say, whoever came up with that kudos.
Speaker 3: Now, sticking with prisons, let's have a look at how
Speaker 3: the President of El Salvador responded to footage out of
Speaker 3: Paris Fashion Week, which was a It was a show
Speaker 3: by Willie Chavarier Mexican American designer protesting against.
Speaker 1: El Salvador's super prisons. First, let's have a look at
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: And here is how the president of El Salvador, Nae Bucala, responded.
Speaker 3: He wrote, we are ready to ship them all to
Speaker 3: Paris whenever we get the.
Speaker 1: Green light from the French government.
Speaker 3: He doesn't mess around, Kosha, and it's not denying the
Speaker 3: Western media, the activists, class the academics height what's happening
Speaker 3: in El Salvador. But he is enormously popular, possibly the
Speaker 3: most popular leader in the world right now.
Speaker 8: Huge approval ratings of like ninety percent. He got re
Speaker 8: elected resoundingly the second time. His prison is super prison,
Speaker 8: as it's called, is famous around the world. The US. Obviously,
Speaker 8: Trump administration has even had contracts with him to send
Speaker 8: some of those deporties to him. He's also caught from
Speaker 8: a different cloth of this new form of leader. Whether
Speaker 8: it's him or Javide Malai or Tromp or Faraj as
Speaker 8: we discussed, they're different. But they basically, you know, they're
Speaker 8: sharp tongue, they're quick witted. They don't take any of
Speaker 8: this nonsense from the media. They reframe the narrative and
Speaker 8: flip it around very effectively. And they're tough in terms
Speaker 8: of their governance policies, and he certainly exemplifies.
Speaker 3: That kosher gator always a pleasure. Thanks for your time
Speaker 3: tonight still to come. Lefties losing it and Jaguar's sales
Speaker 3: plummet after that woke rebrand.
Speaker 1: Alex Stein joins me.
Speaker 3: Next, you're watching the Reader Panney Show, and it's time
Speaker 3: for lefties losing it and we've got some weapon grade
Speaker 3: Trump derangement syndromantics coming up for you.
Speaker 1: But let's start in the UK.
Speaker 3: We're saying just about anything against the leftist orthodoxy will
Speaker 3: see the police at your door. It may get you
Speaker 3: charged the jailing people for spicy inflammatory tweets. Lucy Connolly
Speaker 3: is serving thirty one months for a couple of.
Speaker 1: Anti immigration posts.
Speaker 3: That's longer than some Grooming gang members have received as
Speaker 3: far as prison terms. Talk about it two yet justice system,
Speaker 3: which all brings me to Glastonbury and the orgy of
Speaker 3: hate and hysteria celebrated by a massive crowd of lefty simpletons.
Speaker 3: Here is some rapper and anti British, anti West islam
Speaker 3: Is supporting miscreant part of a duo called Bob Villain,
Speaker 3: and watch as this rapper mocks Brits who want their
Speaker 3: country back.
Speaker 9: You want you're country back?
Speaker 15: Shut up, God held you want your country back back?
Speaker 12: You can't have that, don't you?
Speaker 1: Please make them stop?
Speaker 3: And watch the crowd, a sea of pasty, white, self
Speaker 3: loading Brits cheering against their own country.
Speaker 16: How do you want your clutching back?
Speaker 1: You can't have that.
Speaker 15: How do you want?
Speaker 3: And that same idiot crowd, we're happy to join in
Speaker 3: with that genocidal chance about killing Israelis and.
Speaker 1: Ending the only Jewish state.
Speaker 15: Free Fruehi, But have you heard this one though?
Speaker 1: Deaf?
Speaker 15: Theft to the I d F, theft to the ID,
Speaker 15: theft to the I d F, theft to the I
Speaker 15: d FF the.
Speaker 8: To the ID.
Speaker 15: Hell, yeah, from the river Tennessee in Palestine must be,
Speaker 15: will be in Charlah.
Speaker 3: And here are more privileged, almost uniformly white, lefty misfits
Speaker 3: who have paid a lot of money to be a
Speaker 3: part of whatever this is.
Speaker 1: Thousands eight are millions.
Speaker 4: We love you.
Speaker 3: And if that wasn't bad enough, the crowd were treated
Speaker 3: to far left loon and former Labor Party leader Jeremy
Speaker 3: Corbyn banging on about Donald Trump and building bridges not walls.
Speaker 3: But isn't there a massive wall, a massive fence around
Speaker 3: the music festival to ensure only those with a valid
Speaker 3: ticket are allowed to enter to hear crap like this?
Speaker 5: If you can see that far, look on the wall
Speaker 5: right over there that surrounds this wonderful festival. And there's
Speaker 5: a message on that wall for President Donald Trump. And
Speaker 5: you know what it says, build bridges not walls.
Speaker 1: But they built a wall around the festival.
Speaker 3: They didn't build a bridge to allow anybody he wants
Speaker 3: to come to come. They built a fence to keep
Speaker 3: people out. Now Here is aging DJ slim Shady serving
Speaker 3: up dangerous levels of cringe.
Speaker 1: The bored little.
Speaker 3: Eunuch had a big screen featuring Donald Trump, and he
Speaker 3: and his sad little audience were giving the President the finger.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Trump administration can recover from this.
Speaker 3: Who now here is a socialist, proving yet again that
Speaker 3: the left is all about projection and really they operate
Speaker 3: without shame. Here is Bernie Sanders accusing the Republicans of
Speaker 3: being extremist and stalinist.
Speaker 17: The Republican pudding that's not just have become a right
Speaker 17: wing extremist party in many cases has become like a
Speaker 17: Stalinist party or cult of the individual.
Speaker 3: I got to tell you, the HOODSPA is off the
Speaker 3: charts with that dude. But here is Bernie Sanders getting
Speaker 3: an education. He went on the Joe Rogan Show. Now,
Speaker 3: remember Joe Rogan used to love Bernie, used to back him,
Speaker 3: But now I think he's seeing him clearly for the
Speaker 3: leftist clown that he is.
Speaker 16: Was the poll incorrect?
Speaker 18: Who was wrong?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 1: What what about the.
Speaker 16: Conversation that they had with Kamala Harris where they edited
Speaker 16: the answers.
Speaker 17: That she had sixty minutes as a sterling reputation for
Speaker 17: investigative journalism.
Speaker 16: That's not investigative journalism. If you change someone's answers, if
Speaker 16: you ask her a question and she comes with a
Speaker 16: rambling answer that doesn't make sense, and you edit that out.
Speaker 17: Sewing media has the impact of intimidating media.
Speaker 16: But it's not that it's his deceptive editing.
Speaker 4: I don't know what.
Speaker 16: I feel a different perception of who is than reality.
Speaker 16: It's not objective journalists. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 17: I don't know that I agree with your analysis of it.
Speaker 16: I think that's universally accepted that that's what they did.
Speaker 17: The impact is clearly intimidation. He wants to defund public broadcasting.
Speaker 17: Why is that because they also would run critical stories
Speaker 17: of them.
Speaker 16: They say things that are defamatory and factually incorrect. What
Speaker 16: other course does a person have other than a lawsuit?
Speaker 3: And Joe Rogan also schooled Bernie the socialist with three houses,
Speaker 3: the climate change warrior who takes private jets around the country.
Speaker 1: Joe schooled him on global warming.
Speaker 17: You got to deal with this climate change issue. And
Speaker 17: I know that you know there are some people who
Speaker 17: think climate change is a hoax. It ain't a hoax.
Speaker 17: I think the last ten years have been the warmest
Speaker 17: on record.
Speaker 16: First of all, the reality is that the Earth temperature
Speaker 16: has never been static, right, we both agree on that.
Speaker 16: It's always been up and down. There's been ice ages
Speaker 16: and heat waves. And then the Washington Post looked at it.
Speaker 16: What was the time period that they looked at that.
Speaker 16: Essentially they found that we're in a cooling period that
Speaker 16: the Earth over the past X amount of years. And
Speaker 16: this was like a very inconvenient discovery, but they had
Speaker 16: to report the data, and kudos to them for doing that.
Speaker 16: Scientists have captured the Earth climate change of the last
Speaker 16: four in eighty five million years. Here's a surprising place
Speaker 16: we stand now. So look at the far end of
Speaker 16: that graph, and you see we're in a cooling period.
Speaker 17: Well I'm not sure, No, I didn't read that article,
Speaker 17: but yeah, you know the scientists who are out there,
Speaker 17: I think I know.
Speaker 16: But there's a lot of money involved in that too, Bernie.
Speaker 16: That's part of the problem. There's a lot of money
Speaker 16: involved in this, this whole climate change emergency issue, and
Speaker 16: there's a lot of control. And that's a big part
Speaker 16: of this problem.
Speaker 3: Now here is thoroughly confused. Doom goblin Greta Thumberg, this
Speaker 3: time in Budapest in a kafia marching for pride and
Speaker 3: misusing the word fascist.
Speaker 10: Today I am joining thousands of people in Budapest, Hungary
Speaker 10: who are fine victor Or RAN's best with attempt to
Speaker 10: ban the Pride march. Pride is both a protest but
Speaker 10: also a celebration of love and who we are.
Speaker 1: This is yet another fascist attack on human rights. But
Speaker 1: you cannot ban love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why aren't you try that in a Muslim country, Greta?
Speaker 3: I how about you tried? I don't known Gaza or
Speaker 3: even the West Bank. You're not going to get far. Now,
Speaker 3: let's have a look at socialist Zorad Mamdani, the likely
Speaker 3: next mayor of New York City. Here is with actress
Speaker 3: Cynthia Nixon doing whatever this is.
Speaker 4: Click click.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is the host of Prime Time with
Speaker 3: Alex Stein on Blaze TV, comedian Alex Stein.
Speaker 1: Alex.
Speaker 3: The left are very decided about this character. Is he
Speaker 3: going to be the next mayor of New York City?
Speaker 3: And Texans prepared for the influx of New Yorkers who
Speaker 3: are going to be moving to your state if he
Speaker 3: ends up winning.
Speaker 18: Well, you know, I actually am of the opinion I'm
Speaker 18: ready for more New Yorkers to come to Texas. I
Speaker 18: know a lot of people are saying, hey, don't come here,
Speaker 18: but we got a lot of room, we got a
Speaker 18: lot of businesses, business is booming. So I love, you know, migrants,
Speaker 18: New Yorkers to come to Texas. But when it comes
Speaker 18: to Zorn Mom, Donnie, I mean, he's from Uganda. He
Speaker 18: was recently just in a pride parade. I'd like him
Speaker 18: to go back to Uganda and try to do a
Speaker 18: pride parade. So this guy is all screw. He's going
Speaker 18: to turn New York into probably a dystopian hellhole with
Speaker 18: his free grocery store ideas. And this is the problem.
Speaker 18: It's like, yes, everybody wants our goods and our services
Speaker 18: to be cheaper in New York City, but he needs
Speaker 18: to worry about the safety issues. I mean, people are
Speaker 18: getting set on fire on the subway in New York
Speaker 18: City and nobody ever gone trouble or arrested for that.
Speaker 18: So he has a serious crime issue he needs to
Speaker 18: focus on, and not just giving homeless and illegal immigrants
Speaker 18: free food.
Speaker 3: Now, Alex, let's have a look at an incredible poll
Speaker 3: showing how little Democrats value being American compared to Republicans,
Speaker 3: how little pride they have in their country. It's a
Speaker 3: galla pole and it's the percentage you say they are
Speaker 3: very extremely proud to be American. Now, back in two
Speaker 3: thousand and one, the numbers were pretty equal, eighty seven
Speaker 3: percent of Democrats ninety percent of Republicans said they were
Speaker 3: very or extremely happy proud to be American. But you
Speaker 3: look at the current data twenty twenty five, only thirty
Speaker 3: six percent of Democrats agree with that statement, whilst with Republicans,
Speaker 3: they have become even more proud of their country, with
Speaker 3: ninety two percent saying they are.
Speaker 1: Very or extremely proud to be American.
Speaker 3: Alex On know is just one pole, but those numbers
Speaker 3: are incredible.
Speaker 18: No, and Rita, I believe those polls are exactly accurate
Speaker 18: because if you look in the past twenty four years,
Speaker 18: what has changed. Critical race theory has taught every single
Speaker 18: young child that being an American is a bad thing,
Speaker 18: is that you're inherently racist for just being white. So
Speaker 18: this is a serious thing. This is not an accident
Speaker 18: that they have basically brainwashed people into hating our country.
Speaker 18: And this is what's sad is that if you actually
Speaker 18: have an American flag in your front yard, you are
Speaker 18: considered a domestic terrorist to the majority of Democrats on
Speaker 18: the left. So it doesn't make sense. You wouldn't think
Speaker 18: that the American flag would be considered a hate symbol
Speaker 18: to about half the people in our country. But that's
Speaker 18: where we're at, Rita, because we've been indoctrinated to hate
Speaker 18: you and I love Australia, but I think America is
Speaker 18: the greatest country on Earth. It's really sad that our
Speaker 18: young children are being indoctrinated in this way.
Speaker 3: Well, you're so right about the American flag. There's so
Speaker 3: many neighborhoods where you see the American.
Speaker 1: Flag flying proudly outside.
Speaker 3: Homes, and you can always almost to guess how those
Speaker 3: homes vote. The very very rarely are you going to
Speaker 3: be wrong this day and age when you see an
Speaker 3: American flag flying outside someone's home.
Speaker 1: Now, let's move to different matters.
Speaker 3: You may remember British car company Jaguar relaunching their brand
Speaker 3: with some woke wankrey have a look at this. Yes,
Speaker 3: I have fond memories of mocking that ad and that
Speaker 3: whole campaign coincided with Jaguar's ev obsessions, and here is
Speaker 3: the result. Jaguars April twenty twenty five Europeans else plunged
Speaker 3: ninety seven point five percent from nineteen hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: one units to just forty nine vehicles, marking a near
Speaker 3: total collapse during its rebranding phase.
Speaker 1: Alex.
Speaker 3: It really is a lesson in how to destroy a
Speaker 3: brand in thirty seconds, I know.
Speaker 18: Especially Jaguar. When you know, I think of Jaguar, I
Speaker 18: think of James Bond, I think of beautiful women, I
Speaker 18: think of you know, action and not a bunch of odd,
Speaker 18: non binary, weird people doing some sort of you know,
Speaker 18: ritualistic dance around a car's death. Basically, So, what is
Speaker 18: a cliche that we always say, go woke, get broke?
Speaker 18: I think this is just another classic example of a
Speaker 18: car company not appealing to its customers but trying to
Speaker 18: be some sort of you know, progressive social justice here
Speaker 18: hero And what do to do? It cost them all
Speaker 18: their sales. I mean, forty nine cars sold in Europe.
Speaker 18: That's absolutely abysmal. They should be ashamed of themselves. And
Speaker 18: really they need to do some soul searching at Jaguar.
Speaker 1: Alex before you go.
Speaker 3: I know, you Americans are obsessed with our wildlife.
Speaker 1: I thought you'd be interested in this next story.
Speaker 3: Have a look at how heroic surfers come to the
Speaker 3: rescue of a shark attack victim.
Speaker 11: I had a really bad feeling about that, and someone
Speaker 11: mentioned that.
Speaker 12: Then being carried off.
Speaker 15: Gosh, oh that's a job following the blood.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Oh my god, that's oh my god,
Speaker 5: Oh my god. Wait, that's actually really scary.
Speaker 1: Okay, I Alex.
Speaker 3: They are beautiful creatures and we have to share the.
Speaker 1: Ocean with them.
Speaker 3: This footage like that make you excited about visiting Australia.
Speaker 18: You know, honestly, then some of those spiders I see
Speaker 18: on TikTok, so I'll take it. And you know, I
Speaker 18: see the the heroicism and all the heroes in Australia
Speaker 18: saving that sixteen year old. I would not be scared
Speaker 18: whatsoever even if I got bit by a shark. I
Speaker 18: know there'd be some great assis out there Aussie's to
Speaker 18: save me right there, like that sixteen year old boy.
Speaker 18: So I'm not nervous at all, Rita, and I will
Speaker 18: be there soon, and I will be there at Sky
Speaker 18: News in person sooner than later. Rida, I promise you.
Speaker 3: That we can't wait, and we might even bring in
Speaker 3: some critics, bring in some big spiders and snakes to
Speaker 3: us to welcome you to the country.
Speaker 1: Alex Stein, always a pleasure. Thanks for your time tonight.
Speaker 3: Coming up the Australian Men being sued by Andrew and
Speaker 3: Tristan Tate. He'll be sharing some explosive footage with us next.
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Influencer Andrew Tait and his brother Tristan have made a
Speaker 3: fortune promoting the so called Manisphere, appealing mainly to young
Speaker 3: men teenagers. The geo promise a lifestyle of expensive cars,
Speaker 3: easy money, and beautiful women.
Speaker 1: Here's just some of their most viral clips.
Speaker 19: There's a whole idea of being toxicy masculine is complete garbage.
Speaker 7: The most dangerous men on earth are the weak men.
Speaker 1: Feel feel, feel feared. Leave the feelings for the girls, right,
Speaker 1: That's what they do. React. We're men of action.
Speaker 19: Empowering females is the easiest way to weaken the will
Speaker 19: of Meny study, study, give up your whole life in school.
Speaker 1: Then you get to be a doctor. You came and
Speaker 1: buy a mother sports car.
Speaker 19: The problem with most of you is I am sitting
Speaker 19: here with my sunglasses, bald head, millions of dollars, nearly
Speaker 19: unmatched fighting skills.
Speaker 1: I am Morpheus.
Speaker 2: I need action.
Speaker 19: I need constant chaos in my life to feel content.
Speaker 19: I need to be driving a supercar and fighting.
Speaker 3: And since it's launching to the Tate Brothers paid online portal,
Speaker 3: The Real World has a mass more than two hundred and.
Speaker 1: Fifty thousand followers worldwide.
Speaker 3: But the Tits have also faced some serious allegations, including
Speaker 3: human trafficking, rape, and money laundering in Romania. They insist
Speaker 3: they are innocent, but my next guest has put together
Speaker 3: a number of viral videos that claim otherwise, and for
Speaker 3: that he's now paying a steep price. He is one
Speaker 3: of thirteen people worldwide being sued by the brothers. Nathan
Speaker 3: Pope joins me. Now, Nathan, let's begin by looking at
Speaker 3: one of the videos you highlighted, where the brothers admit
Speaker 3: to recruiting women from poor families into sex work.
Speaker 20: I have recruited, I think, although you've worked with a
Speaker 20: lot more girls into I guess the adult into team
Speaker 20: industry than anyone else I really have. And the one
Speaker 20: type of girl I couldn't recruit were girls with rich parents.
Speaker 20: Oh do that for money? I don't need money. My
Speaker 20: family's rich.
Speaker 19: The temptation is certainly there if they're not completely and
Speaker 19: utly financially independent or financially secure. If they're completely financially secure,
Speaker 19: it's more difficult to try and move them into those
Speaker 19: kind of industries.
Speaker 3: Nathan Andrew and Tristan Tate alleged that you have published
Speaker 3: defametry social media post. They've say that you have negatively
Speaker 3: influenced public opinion against them.
Speaker 1: What's your response to that.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess what you just saw in those clips.
Speaker 4: Was the difference or that clip was the difference between
Speaker 4: the Tate's content before they were arrested, and now now
Speaker 4: they claim that they they claim that they just put
Speaker 4: out positive messages for men, whereas back then they were
Speaker 4: very open about the facts that they were manipulating women
Speaker 4: with false relationships to get them on webcam, and they
Speaker 4: were teaching other men how to do this as well.
Speaker 3: Let's have a look at another compilation of yours on
Speaker 3: Andrew Tait and I spoiled it instantly.
Speaker 1: Because she didn't humble herself when she was supposed to.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad I didn't.
Speaker 19: Waste any more time on her because she's never going
Speaker 19: to be doing like my other girls do, living in
Speaker 19: my house, letting me other women, remaining loyal and bring.
Speaker 8: Me coffees and doing as I say.
Speaker 19: That's what you're looking for, a gentlemen, imagine a Muslim
Speaker 19: wife sitting there in her berk are trying to say
Speaker 19: this crap, But the way.
Speaker 5: I was feeling that I was feeling different, insane and
Speaker 5: native psychological.
Speaker 8: Stone.
Speaker 19: You're about to feel something a rock in your faith?
Speaker 7: Can I say this on YouTube?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I can't say this on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I've legitimately done that.
Speaker 20: Girls run their mouth, I start beating leven having sex.
Speaker 20: I love it more than ever.
Speaker 1: They're like it more or less sexy other than the bear.
Speaker 3: Now, Nathan, I have to admit I haven't seen much
Speaker 3: of the tape Brothers work. Do you think he means
Speaker 3: that what we just looked at or is it just performative?
Speaker 1: I know Joe Rogan.
Speaker 3: Likened Andrew Tait to the WWE, where there's some substance
Speaker 3: to what he says, but much of it is a
Speaker 3: perfe months is entertainment.
Speaker 1: Is that how you see it?
Speaker 9: I know.
Speaker 4: I seen those clips as the real agitate and him
Speaker 4: being honest. So since he was arrested in December twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two, he's watered down his image a lot and
Speaker 4: pretended that he's just a voice for positive masculinity and
Speaker 4: all these things, whereas back then we've never seen anyone,
Speaker 4: any criminal brag openly and be more proud and out
Speaker 4: in the open about their alleged crimes. So that is
Speaker 4: the real agitate that you see in those older clips.
Speaker 3: Now, I do think we've created a atmosphere for them
Speaker 3: to really be thriving, because young men have just been
Speaker 3: fed this unending diet of there's something wrong with them,
Speaker 3: They're they're toxic, their privilege, what's wrong with the world.
Speaker 3: And you can understand why someone telling them the opposite
Speaker 3: has become so popular. And I acknowledge from what we've
Speaker 3: seen there's some fairly toxic messages there as well.
Speaker 1: But do you see the reason for their appeal amongst
Speaker 1: young men who are put down.
Speaker 3: By the culture so much these days?
Speaker 4: I do, I definitely do. And to that, I would
Speaker 4: say to these young men that Andrew takes is not
Speaker 4: the answer to any problem that you have. For one thing,
Speaker 4: real men lie, I mean real mental the truth, not liar,
Speaker 4: and no one on the internet lies like children more
Speaker 4: than these two men for him and his brother. So
Speaker 4: to learn to be a man, you don't want to
Speaker 4: look to someone who can't even act like a man
Speaker 4: in the first place.
Speaker 1: And just tell me quickly about this lawsuit.
Speaker 3: Are you going to have to go to great expense
Speaker 3: to defend yourself?
Speaker 1: What's the latest on that?
Speaker 4: We'll see, We'll see we are crowdfunding some of us
Speaker 4: in the that are listed in the lawsuits. I will
Speaker 4: say it's I think the silliest lawsuits I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. They're literally suing us for defamation for one
Speaker 4: showing court documents that contradicts the liars that they tell
Speaker 4: the public about their case. That we're for showing clips
Speaker 4: of their own words, admitting to exploiting women in pornography,
Speaker 4: and in my case, a lot of ergs showing evidence
Speaker 4: of them scamming their fans repeatedly. So they're literally suing
Speaker 4: us for showing their words and holding them accountable.
Speaker 1: For their lives.
Speaker 4: So we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. It's it's very silly,
Speaker 4: but I see it as an already failed attempt to
Speaker 4: silence and intimidate us. We're not going to be silenced
Speaker 4: or intimidated by these children. It's pathetic, quite honestly.
Speaker 3: Nathan Pope, thank you so much for your time tonight,
Speaker 3: and that's it for me. I'll see you at eleven
Speaker 3: tomorrow night. Up next, it's Newsnight,