WEBVTT - SuperCoach Draft: TOP 30 FORWARD RANKINGS feat. The Draft Doctors | Drafted 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.600 Welcome back to Drafted, where we talk all things super 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.120 Coach draft on the Official super Coach Podcast Speed. We're 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:14.840 talking defender ranks today and to help do so, we 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.959 have Left Dog back with us yet again. How are 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:18.560 you going, Left Dog? 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.560 I'm well mate, Always a pleasure and it's a very 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:22.560 special guest today. 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.640 Absolutely yeah. We've got rid of patch for this one 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.720 to bring in the man, the myth, the legend of 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.080 the draft community, a man who's completely sold out. And 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.240 come on the Official super Coach Podcast Stevie Phizz from 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.160 the Draft Doctors. Welcome Stevie. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.120 Yeah, no, good a Darsie. Thanks thanks for having me. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.320 The check cleared so it's all good, mate, it's all good. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.920 Thanks very much for jumping on, Stevie. We know you 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:53.479 love your super coach, so gonna go through Lecdog's ranks 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.280 on this list on this podcast today. Sorry, but you 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.680 have let us know in the private group chat just 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:00.720 to warn you, LEF Dog before before we do jump 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.240 into your ranks. Steve has said that he's aiming to 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.240 tear them to shreds. That is a direct quote, tear 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.919 them to shred Stevie. What's this all about? 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.840 Well, he's a Canton man. You gotta they usually have 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.479 big preseasons, so you've got to just take them down 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.600 a peg, just humble them a fraction. So now, Alex 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:23.160 a good Man, I'm sure he's all over it. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.600 Yeah, And honestly, I've got another article coming out to 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:29.840 walk close to the season where I re rank them, 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.520 so I'll probably just take all of seeds advice and 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.880 update them based on that. So it's basically free content 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:36.120 for me. 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:37.800 It's win win perfect. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.360 Well, draft is actually open now, so you can go 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.120 make your league get ready for draft day. Obviously, you 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.399 don't necessarily want to be drafting now, it's a pretty 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.880 distance off. Still, we want to see some practice matches, 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.440 We want to see some some certain games and performances 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.720 and roles from our players before drafting. So but you 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.600 can jump in now and set up those legs. And 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.920 we're actually doing right now a bit of a mock 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.880 draft to get you ready for that season. We'll have Lecdog. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:05.960 I think we'll be doing some content on that as 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.239 well coming up. But I just wanted to touch base 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:09.880 with you guys. We're in about the end of the 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.320 just looking now. Actually I think it's your pick Steve. Now, 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.160 but we're at the end of the fourth round, heading 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:19.120 into the fifth Lecdog. Have you noticed anything yet? It's 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.240 still pretty early in the draft. It's a twelve team 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.079 league for those wondering. We've got a bunch of content 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.440 creators jumping on board to help us out with this one. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.239 But anything you've noticed off the top in the early 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.000 rounds leftoc h. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.280 No, nothing really going strange. He probably more rucks gone 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.840 at this stage than I thought there would. So we 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.600 had Cherry and Gorne go early in the first round, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.040 and then there's been You kicked it off actually in 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.600 round two, a bit of a run with Tom Deconnie 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:46.320 in round two. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.040 It was a bit early for the big fella. But look, 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.600 I'm high on TDK. Wanted to throw. Yeah, I wanted 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.040 to get the ruck run going nice and early. But Steve, 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.880 have you got any thoughts on just the early part 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.760 of the mock draft at the moment, As I said, 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.560 it's very early. It's only heading into the fifth at 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:02.960 the moment. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:08.680 All right, Yeah, i'd probably echo Lex thoughts. One thing 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:13.880 you see as a rule in the expert quote unquote 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.600 drafts is people will sit back on the rucks aside 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:20.440 from the early guys, so probably to see that big 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.280 run happen when there's maybe a few question marks. I 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.200 know I took Gorn myself, but beyond that, may be 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.600 a little bit surprised seeing how deep at bats and 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:36.080 maybe some questions being asked if guys like Darcy and Marshall. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.240 Yeah, well, that's a nice little teaser for the upcoming. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:42.840 You know, I don't know what sort of content we're 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:44.160 going to do. Might be an article, might be a 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:45.840 little bit of a pod. We'll wait and see for that, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.200 but keep an eye out for that mock draft coming 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.720 your way soon. Let's get into our defender ranks. The 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.480 way the show has been working, we've been going through 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.040 Lectdog's rankings and then talking about them as we go. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.560 We are going to go through the top thirty defender 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.680 rankings for Lectdog and we'll kick it off with your 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.120 ranks one to ten in the Defenders. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.560 Yeah, well, we'll run through them first and then we 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.000 can dive into a bit of detail. So in tier one, 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.160 for me, I've got three guys, Harry Sheezel, Jackson Claire, 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:18.040 and Luke Ryan. Tier two is Jordan Clark and Lockie Whitfield. 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.960 That's your top five, and then you're remaining five. I've 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.080 got Sam Flanders sitting in tier three on his own, 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.080 and we'll talk about him. I'm sure Tier four is 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:33.560 Wanganeen Malerra, Max Holmes, Nick Martin, and Dan Houston. And 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.719 if I'm not mistaken, that's ten. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:38.960 That's ten. There you go, that's your top ten. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.840 Correct. Well, I mean I've got a few players I 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.719 want to talk about, but to hand it over to 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:45.760 the man who wants to tear him to shreds, I'd 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.040 better get it over to Stevie Fizz and see if 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.400 you've got any specific players you want to talk about 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:52.120 in this top ten. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:57.920 It's probably Luke Ryan is the player who I'm down 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:02.279 on this season as opposed probably if you're basing your 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.640 ranks sort of around last year's averages, sort of can't 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:11.599 see that first half especially repeat for Ryan. I think 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.200 he's disposals will come down. He's still obviously a great 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.440 interceptor and still worthy of a top ten pick. I 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.279 think I have him at D six, so I was 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.440 still still like him. But for me, he's actually just 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.080 not that top tier defender. I'm not projecting him that way. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.200 Heading into this season, so he's probably a standout for 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.720 me that I might not be as hot on. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.400 Yeah, that's an interesting one. I mean, just to put 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.240 some numbers to it. I know people have talked about it. 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:40.560 He talked about the hot start, a bit of a 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.000 slow finish, one hundred and thirty average from rounds one 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.680 to twelve and then one hundred and two super coach 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.320 average from rounds thirteen to twenty four. But leckdog, Yeah, 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.680 just talk us through this third ranking for lu Grin. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:56.839 Yeah, I know it was a season of two halves 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.760 last year. I do think there will be a regression there. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.039 I think we're probably going to expect something closer to 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:08.000 his twenty twenty three numbers, which was about one hundred 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.039 and ten from memory, which is still pretty decent for 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.440 super Coach. Yeah, there'll be a bit of a drop off, 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.520 but I also know that mate fantasy Freco has been 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.640 tweeting about him, and that is always a good signed preseason. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.240 So he talked about averaging one hundred and twenty six 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.800 in the games where they played quick and one hundred and 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.800 twenty one in the games where they played slow, And 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.640 that's a sample size of ten games. It's not massive, 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.000 but I just think I think he's still going to 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.880 get one hundred and ten plus it might not be 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.280 one hundred and sixteen, and I think he's a relatively 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:43.000 safe option. Whereas just talking about the draft we're doing today, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.919 I took him with my first or second pick. Maybe 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.080 I was actually tempted to take his teammate who I've 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.680 got just below him at fourth, Jordan Clark, ahead of him, 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:54.680 because I'm pretty high on Jordan Clark, but there was 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.359 nothing to back that up so as in choosing Ryan 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:01.120 over Clark. So for me, Ryan's still a top tier dude, Sinclair, 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.200 I think it's going to be awesome. I know you're 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.440 not on him dos and I know that there's some 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.400 injury concerns over him since I made these rankings, but 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.360 I don't think Heaps is going to Heaps. He's going 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.920 to split Sheeesel Sinclair and Ryan come the end of 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:14.400 the season. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.520 Yeah, I'm not as hot on him, but I still think, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.120 you know, again, very worthy of a top ten pick, Sinclair. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.720 I'm not off that at all, like the way he 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.960 finished last season, and I mean the more injuries that 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.120 mount as well at Saint Kilda, the more high I'm 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.840 getting on him because he's probably going to have plenty 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.240 of the Sharon back there as well or wherever he plays. 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.520 One player I do want to touch on, Steve, if 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.800 is your thoughts on Sam Flanders at six in the 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.040 rankings after his massive year last year averaging close to 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:44.640 one hundred and twenty Super Coach points. 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:46.880 Yeah, I've got him at four at the minute and 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.880 I'm not you know, the back thing. He probably needs 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.360 an adjustment. He probably needs an adjustment to come down 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.320 a few spots, So I don't know. I'm where Leck 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.560 has him. I love the player obviously, but yeah, he 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.200 would be okay, all right, you should be fine playing 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.080 through the midfield for Gold Coast. 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.200 I did actually have him at six before the injury news, 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:12.760 so just to fan those flames. But for me, there's 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.840 just it was just a question mark on where exactly 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.280 I think he's going to score. Well, I don't think 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:18.960 he's going to score on hundred and twenty points a game. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.280 I just I don't know the suns in the same 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:23.080 way you do, mate. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:24.400 I just I don't know. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.440 I don't know where he plays, and that's enough for 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:28.720 me to drop him down the ranks. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.680 A couple of picks, fair enough, Was there any other 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.680 players you wanted to touch on, Steve before we move to 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.160 the next sort of ten of ranks. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.560 I've actually got Houston at D three, so he's a 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.199 player I'm far more comfortable selecting than Leck. You probably 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.720 get him at a better value than that. I think 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:51.319 he's got a lot of room for improvement at Collingwood. 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.880 You know, he never had the kick in Chare at 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.800 Port Adelaide. There should be plenty of intercepts for him 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.679 at Collingwood. So I actually, I think he's got a 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.439 lot of upside. Really, he's someone who I could take 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.360 as a Tier one defender who you don't necessarily have 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.480 to draft there. Allo, I'm pretty early in the mock. 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.600 He did go very early in the in the mock, 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.440 I've actually I mean, I won't bore you with all 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:20.600 the details, but I do track super coach averages like 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.760 of by position of players when they move clubs over 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.199 the years, and generally defenders do, like particularly in the 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.320 Dan Houston role, do see an uptick, especially in that 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.439 first year that they move across. So I think there's 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.760 room for improvement for him there. But he's he's just 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.280 someone that's never I've never really gelled with, and there's 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.439 a bit of bias in this where he falls into 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.080 this category, where with me with Malaria Holmes and Martin 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.880 who I'm probably emphasizing their upside based on their age 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.240 and experience over his upside on roll And I mean, 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.000 flip a coin. I know I'm lower on Houston than 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:58.520 a lot of people are out there. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.040 I think we can move on to the next batch 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.079 of plais your ranks eleven through to twenty. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.640 All right, let's pull it up eleven through twenty. Okay, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.640 so Tier five we have my boy Bailey Dale and 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:18.559 Jayden Short. Tiers six, these are the old blokes Dane Zorco, 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.520 Tom Stewart, James Cicily, Jeremy McGovern. We're going to call 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.280 that the old bloke tier. Then we've got in Tier 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:30.920 seven Nick Blakey, Colby mckircher, Maddie Roberts, and rounding out 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.760 the top twenty is and there's plenty of guys in 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.640 Tier eight here, but the twentieth player on my list 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.680 is Mitch Hinge, who was just one of my favorite 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.920 blokes to draft in the Super Coach. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.080 I want to specifically talk about a guy who finished 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.200 last year incredibly hot, and I'll then I'll get your 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.200 takes cebe fizzed. But I really like Matt Roberts a 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:56.120 fair bit higher than nineteen this year. Came home firing 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:00.000 last year, averaging over one hundred towards the back half 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.520 of the season. He's got a ridiculously high kicking percentage. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.480 I think the fan to mentioned it on our podcast 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.679 about Classic yesterday that we recorded, and it was saying 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.920 like eighty four percent kicking efficiency and it was one 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.240 of the highest in the league for people over twelve 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.720 kicks a game. So he's a guy that Sydney I 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.520 think will rely on to distribute the ball out of 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.480 the back half. And I've kind of got him. I 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.040 think I've got him all the way up at ten 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.880 in my recent ranking. Sign I'm super high on Maddi 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.199 Roberts this year. But Stevie Fears, have you got any 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.720 notable players there that you'd like to speak through and 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.240 your thoughts on Matt Roberts as well. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.760 I mean, Matt Roberts I find tricky because it's not 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:42.720 a huge sample size. New coach too, I will say, 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.080 James Cecily, I can't have a bar of it. Man, 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.480 I can't have it. I've got him at D thirty. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.600 Oh wow, just start on him. Well, I mean you 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.480 think about it like this, is he going to play forward? 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.880 I tend to over the years, I've tended to if 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:00.000 I'm down on someone, I don't move them down five spots, 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.880 like I'll move them down a dozen spots. So I 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.439 can't have it with the uncertainty. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.920 I am so Cecily, I have what's that? What do 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.400 I have him at fifteenth for defenders? But I actually 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.760 have him a lot lower in my overall rankings just 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:19.120 the way it panned out, and he dropped like seventy 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.720 or eighty spots year on year for me in the rankings. 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:26.920 So I'm also concerned by him, particularly with that questionable 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.160 tall forward line at Hawthorne. It's not specifically the fear 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.680 that he'll go forward for me, but there is uncertainty 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.480 there and they've added in, you know, two big elements 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:40.120 into that back line. So I appreciate the fear and 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.920 having thirtieth. Having him thirtieth is probably makes sense just 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.080 for me. I'm like, if I if I'm looking, if 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.920 I'm sitting there and you're forcing me to pick someone 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.680 it during the live draft, and I've got Cicily or 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.400 my boy who I love, Mitch Hinge. I'm probably just 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.000 going to take Cecily ahead just because of I don't 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:02.160 know he's going to play theoretically everything unless he punching 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:06.000 people again. So yeah, he is a difficult player to 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:07.880 I don't want him on my team. I'm going to 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:09.080 avoid drafting him if I can. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.160 There's a couple of fossils in the list, as you 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.360 did mention Lek, that you've been, you know, potentially harsh 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.720 on if you look at just their average of last year. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.079 But you're really kind of, you know, factoring in the 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.720 age you've mentioned in like a couple of previous podcasts 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.160 that you're not you certainly give a bigger hit to 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.480 players with an injury history as well, So these guys 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.040 certainly would tick that box as well. But Jeremy McGovern 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.360 and Dane Zorco, if you just looked at their average 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.800 from last year, would be a lot higher up the list. 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.440 But Stevie, are you as harsh on players that you 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.800 know have had standout seasons like they did, played probably 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.760 irregularly high games for their traditional histories? Are you sort 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.319 of dropping them as far as you know, Jeremy McGovern 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.800 at sixteen and Dane Zorco at thirteen. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.480 Man, I love Zorko, like I find the injury narrative 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.640 around Zora kind of puzzling. He's basically played twenty plus 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.760 games every year, so I don't know. Man's I mean, 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:08.760 if you're playing twenty games, I'm pretty happy with that. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:13.240 So I've got him far higher than then Lack. I 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.880 understand dropping guys like that, and Jeremy McGovern's I've got 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.680 him at twenty four, and it's not because he's old. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.440 It's just because he, you know, spends more time in 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.520 the medical tent than Alan Alder. There's an old man 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:29.320 reference for you people. So yeah, it's a fair. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.880 Yeah, Like zork he had twenty three last year, had 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:37.480 seventeen nineteen twenty one, like their acceptable game amounts. It's 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.600 just it's when those games happen, and I just if 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.600 I'm given the choice between someone who like I just 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.000 don't want that injury to happen in the game where 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.360 I need to win to make finals, or that first 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.400 week of finals or whatever, so I bump those guys down. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.440 McGovern's the same, like yeah, had a very good year, 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:55.840 but how often does he do it well? 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.640 He doesn't do it, So it's this is a Bill 0:14:58.640 --> 0:14:59.360 Simmons line. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.600 But I like my footy players to play footy and 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.440 Jimmy McGovern doesn't do that. Tom Stewart, I'll just touch on. 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.800 His isn't an age thing. His is more of a 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.400 role thing. We saw him move sort of from back 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.200 line to the wing to sort of outside. He inside 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.920 midtime last year, and I carried him in Classic for 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.280 most of last year, and he was fine towards the 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.360 end of the year. But I just there was enough 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.880 uncertainty and they've acquired enough talent that I'm just just 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.360 happy to push him down a little bit. 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.160 Just want one. I want to talk about one more 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.200 players that the Hat bros As you like to call him, 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.880 Stevie Fizz, are getting around a bit. Jaden Short up 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:41.400 at twelve, So the Classic community is getting quite a 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.160 bit around Jaden Short as a player that you could 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.400 return to some great heights, given I think his average 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.920 was only in the eighties low eighties last year. He's 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.280 done ninety plus in the past, and the Tigers, obviously 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.880 it's presumably going to be in their back line quite 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:55.120 a bit. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.240 Yeah, I'm not as hot on short. I've got him 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.320 at seventeen, and I'll probably end up moving him down. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.160 I'm just not sure he's very good at this point. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.280 Like I know that's harsh, Like he's obviously a good player, 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.720 but I don't know if maybe the best has passed him. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.000 And I don't really want many parts of that Richmond 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.480 team to be perfectly. 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:20.680 Fair, absolutely fair. Can we talk. 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.960 About Max Holmes? Because I know people like Max Holmes 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.600 and I love the player, but there's a guy, you know, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.880 you talk about Tom Stewart getting split around, Like if 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.640 Max Holmes is playing like let's say forty percent inside 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.280 midfield and then a lot of the time on the wing, 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.240 I'm a little bit casual about him. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:40.560 Yeah. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.360 Look, and I think that's fair enough for me. I'm 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:47.200 sort of hoping that they transitioned him back into and 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:48.960 again you don't want to hope when you're drafting, but 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.280 transition him behind the ball a bit more. 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:52.240 I didn't love. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:56.280 From a super co perspective perspective that when he was 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.640 on the wing and stuff. But the other thing you 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.320 have to understand is that if I drafted someone in 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:06.240 a Dynasty League, they get bumped up the rankings. And now, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.800 admittedly I did trade Max Holmes to try and go 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.200 for a back to back flag in my main dynasty league, 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.119 but I did draft him, so I did call it, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.439 and that as a result, he does get a bump. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.520 I think he's really a really, really good outside player, 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.040 which is the problem, right. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.520 I mean, that is a problem. What I want to see. 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.119 What I want to see is how they use like 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.280 a Bailey Smith because he's and I don't know if 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.520 we'll get to the forwards. I don't actually think Bailey 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.640 Smith is that good in terms of super coach or football, 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.160 but I understand that everyone else does. So I'm interested 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.280 to see how that whole side sort of shakes up. 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.359 And I'm just hoping that there's enough kind of outside 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.680 players there that they just shove Homes behind the ball 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.680 and trust that he can kick it to a teammate. 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.359 I'm just looking at games at which he attends did 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.400 like if he's going to be more of an inside 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.640 mid the games he attended fifty percent plus center bounces 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.119 and he averaged over one hundred in those It's nine games, 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.000 like it's not a massive sample. Last year but I 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.440 don't know. Maybe that's just what people are going off. 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.440 If he's going to play a bit more inside mid, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.439 even if he plays a defender, I don't know. I 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.080 don't I don't dislike the pick. I just yeah, I 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.280 feel like i'd be I mean, talk about injury prone. 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.080 I think this guy could certainly tick that box. Twenty 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:27.720 five games last year, but still managed to do a 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.160 hamstring right at the end of the season. So always 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.640 seems to have those those hamstring concerns. With the high 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.119 explosive game that he sort of plays. Hopefully he can 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.920 get his body right. Let's talk about twenty one to thirty. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.800 Lek al Right, Well, this is where you get into 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.399 a bit of fun. So I've got Trent Rivers in 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.679 at twenty one. He's a Tier eight guy alongside John 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.960 Noble and Carl Aimon and Mitch Hinge who was in 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:55.960 the top twenty. Kellum Mills is low. I know he's 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:57.760 going to be low compared to what most people think. 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.679 At tier nine, I've got Kellum Mills, Harry Similberg, Daniel Rioli, 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:07.760 Adam Sad, Andrew mcgrah and Kellum Wilkie. In thirtieth is 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.879 kiddeen Coleman, who I think might actually be injured at 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.959 the moment, so that doesn't bode necessarily very well. 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.720 Yeah, So, as you mentioned, you did these ranks, yeah 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.800 before the last couple of weeks, and that it's a 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.280 long time in pre seasons sometimes. Yeah, Kitty, you'd imagine 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:26.960 you bump that down. He's not going to be coming 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.359 back until you know, a few rounds into the season 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.760 at the very earliest. From what we've heard, he's. 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:34.320 Bump up Rory Atkins instead. 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:39.760 Then let's talk Callum Mills. Steve ifi is, what are 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:40.840 your thoughts on him this season? 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:45.200 D nine for me? D nine, And I've seen him higher, man, 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:46.280 I've seen him higher. 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:50.760 So yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty high. I think I've 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.639 got thirteen. I'm just sort of on the edge of 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:55.720 I might even bring him higher if I see even 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.520 more midfield stuff and also seeing Stevie's higher on him, 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:05.360 so bump him up. As we've mentioned the draft guru here, Yeah, 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.600