Speaker 1: Why On Sky News, this is Sharry Good Evening. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show tonight. The Labor Party in panic mode
Speaker 1: after polling shows Dutton could win the next election. Well
Speaker 1: it turns out he may not be as unelectable as
Speaker 1: the PM hoped. Meanwhile, Penny One refuses to rule out
Speaker 1: supporting a pro her Musk motion at the United Nations.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get stuck into this in a minute.
Speaker 1: And an ABC executive today has refused to apologize to
Speaker 1: Heston Russell for doctoring a video in a report accusing
Speaker 1: him of war crimes. This as new claims emerge of
Speaker 1: fabricated evidence that arrogance continues. Also on the show, a
Speaker 1: cover up to avoid implicating a public figure. That's the
Speaker 1: damning findings of a review into the Daniel and Catherine
Speaker 1: Andrews twenty thirteen car crash. Well, one of those in
Speaker 1: the probe will break down these revelations shortly plus, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump breaks his silence. All of a sudden, we heard
Speaker 1: juds being fired in the air, the former president speaking
Speaker 1: candidly about the second attempt on his life. But first tonight,
Speaker 1: a legendary labor figure and the business community are today
Speaker 1: accusing the Albanese government of losing its way. Tonight, as
Speaker 1: we speak, the business community is delivering a damning verdict
Speaker 1: on the Prime Minister, saying he's taking our country backwards
Speaker 1: with a deteriorating economy. In a major speech tonight, the
Speaker 1: Business Council of Australia's Bran Black says Australia is losing
Speaker 1: its way thanks to Labour's workplace laws and industry regulation.
Speaker 2: My message receiving is that wish key that is real
Speaker 2: and all Australia's already feeling in consequence. You be one
Speaker 2: of the twelve hundred plus businesses that close their doors.
Speaker 3: If they're an equidation in July, you feel that if
Speaker 3: you are the employees of those businesses, and you feel
Speaker 3: if you're in Australian worry about future.
Speaker 1: And his sentiment was echoed by the trailblazing Bill Kelty,
Speaker 1: who has made scathing remarks about the current Labor Party
Speaker 1: to leading figures. At a private lunch, he said, what
Speaker 1: we do not need is a self congratulatory government telling
Speaker 1: people they have really cared and looked after them. Pretty
Speaker 1: strong for the man described correctly by the Finn Review
Speaker 1: as one of the architects of Australia's modern prosperity. Well,
Speaker 1: this all comes after the Mineral Council of Australia Chief
Speaker 1: Tanya Constable's attack last week on Labour's ir laws, which
Speaker 1: she called reckless. She said they were bringing conflict to
Speaker 1: the workplace. Well, both Anthony Alberesi and Jim Chalmers are
Speaker 1: in the room tonight as the Business Council ramps up
Speaker 1: its political attack on the government ahead of the next election.
Speaker 1: Already this election is shaping up to be highly competitive.
Speaker 1: Labour had long dismissed Peter Dutton as a serious challenger.
Speaker 1: They shrugged him off as too unpopular to be elected.
Speaker 1: But now his tough exterior and his policy convictions seem
Speaker 1: to suit the times. He's exceeding voters and Labors expectations
Speaker 1: and a Dutton minority government certainly isn't out of the question.
Speaker 1: The seemingly never ending cost of living crisis is hurting
Speaker 1: families and the business community. And in his speech tonight,
Speaker 1: well here's what Bran Black said.
Speaker 2: He should rather feeling confident in that growing posterity.
Speaker 3: Many CEOs feel so we are losing our way instead
Speaker 3: the beases on things that matter. We's having incremental but
Speaker 3: noticeable in such a giving its setbacks and this shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be smissus talking Australia down. He's a belief by Helsown
Speaker 2: membership that we can and must do Earth for the
Speaker 2: same future generations.
Speaker 1: Now representing Corporate Australia, Black said there needs to be
Speaker 1: cuts to regulation, more flexible workplace laws, simpler planning laws
Speaker 1: for new projects, a more efficient tax system and that's
Speaker 1: just the start. Political editor Simon Benson writes that it's
Speaker 1: taken the Business Council long enough to work out that
Speaker 1: the Albanese government's political agenda was not favorable to economic activity.
Speaker 1: They have now finally woken up and it's come at
Speaker 1: the same time as trade union legend Bill Kelty's intervention.
Speaker 1: He was that Labour needs to dramatically reshape its economic
Speaker 1: agenda to lift productivity, and he's criticized the Albaneze government
Speaker 1: for well, as he says, having no plan and to
Speaker 1: revitalize a near stagnant economy. He's critical of high personal
Speaker 1: income tax brackets and the effects of bracket creep. He
Speaker 1: says people are not impressed by politicians telling them, or
Speaker 1: at least implying that a tax cut has fixed their
Speaker 1: problem paying bills, especially a tax cut that leaves them
Speaker 1: paying more tax than they were two years ago. And
Speaker 1: Kelty paints a realistic picture of the dwindling Australian gene.
Speaker 1: He says for a great number of people, they face
Speaker 1: a world of renting, not home ownership, total marginal tax
Speaker 1: rates including GSD of over fifty percent, and jobs in
Speaker 1: which the real value of their wages have declined. Radical
Speaker 1: policy decisions taken across industrial relations, foreign policy, national security
Speaker 1: and environmental laws are now coming home to roost for
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister, and they well may very well cost
Speaker 1: him the next election.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Now to revelations, the Bayner administration is putting pressure on
Speaker 1: alban Easy to oppose an extreme pro Palestinian motion at
Speaker 1: the United Nations that calls for Israel to immediately withdraw
Speaker 1: from Gaza. Now, to be clear, this motion demands an
Speaker 1: unconditional withdrawal from Gaza. It calls for sanctions and travel
Speaker 1: bands on Israelis and a ban on armed sails to
Speaker 1: the Jewish State. It also supports global boycotts on Israeli companies.
Speaker 1: That is just simply racist and anti Semitic. It can't
Speaker 1: be described as anything other than pro Hamas. And yet
Speaker 1: again this demonstrates how the United Nations is a discredited
Speaker 1: body that no longer protects the very people it was
Speaker 1: created to act as a guardian over this UN motion
Speaker 1: would mean forgetting about the hostages and allowing a terror
Speaker 1: group to remain in control, free to commit massacres of
Speaker 1: Jews over and over again. It's absurd that the Americans
Speaker 1: have to pressure Australia to vote down this UN motion.
Speaker 1: Australia was once a sound and rational, reliable international partner
Speaker 1: that could be relied on to be a friend of Israel,
Speaker 1: now no longer. Now Pennywang hasn't said whether Australia will
Speaker 1: support this or not, but that it's even a consideration
Speaker 1: is unthinkable. She declined to comment today when we contacted
Speaker 1: her office. The coalition's position is that alban Easy and
Speaker 1: Penny Wang should categorically oppose this UN motion and really
Speaker 1: this is a statement of the obvious. But here was
Speaker 1: Shadow Foreign Affairs Minister Simon Birmingham on Pete Stefanovick this
Speaker 1: morning and he made the point that this is a
Speaker 1: one sided motion that the government just shouldn't support.
Speaker 4: It is a motion that would be deeply counterproductive to
Speaker 4: long term peace efforts. And it's an entirely one sided
Speaker 4: motion that makes no mention at all of Hamas of
Speaker 4: the horrors and atrocities committed back on October seven last year,
Speaker 4: or of the hostages who have now continued to be
Speaker 4: held for almost a year.
Speaker 1: And importantly, Birmingham pointed out how Australia is now becoming
Speaker 1: out of step with our closest international ally, the United States.
Speaker 4: The decision for the Albanesi government should be clearcut, that
Speaker 4: should be to oppose it, to stand with friends in allies,
Speaker 4: and to continue to support long standing bipartisan policy in
Speaker 4: Australia about how we ultimately negotiate a two state solution
Speaker 4: for Israel and the Palestinian people.
Speaker 1: Now, Colin Rubinstein, who'll join me here on the show tonight,
Speaker 1: he says the UN motion and support setting up an
Speaker 1: international Commission of inquiry that would effectively dismantle Israel as
Speaker 1: a Jewish national home. He calls this an ultra extreme motion.
Speaker 1: He says it would be the ultimate reward for terrorism,
Speaker 1: turning October seven into a victory for Hermas. And Colin
Speaker 1: Rubinstein says, mass murder, rape, and torture would not be punished. Instead,
Speaker 1: they would become the successful Palestinian tactics that prompted the
Speaker 1: international community to attempt to impose via coercion all the
Speaker 1: extremist demands of the Palestinian leadership. It's bewildering how terrorism
Speaker 1: has come to be excused by the international community, and
Speaker 1: it's a sad indictment on the United Nations. The very
Speaker 1: organization set up to protect Jews in the wake of
Speaker 1: the Holocaust, it now perpetuates anti Semitism and acts as
Speaker 1: a vehicle for bloodthirsty terrorists and evil regimes like Iran
Speaker 1: seeking to dismantle the Jewish state. How has this come
Speaker 1: to pass? As I said, I'll be speaking with Colin
Speaker 1: Rubinstein about the UN vote later in the show, but
Speaker 1: now let's bring in our regular Tuesday panel, former Speaker
Speaker 1: of the House Bronn Bishop and Sky News host Caleb Bond.
Speaker 1: Welcome to you both. Look, I want to start by
Speaker 1: getting your reaction to the news. It's unfolding as we
Speaker 1: speak the Business Council dinner, the fact that the Business
Speaker 1: Council is now turning on the Albanesi government Brunwan. Back
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, Albanesi promised he was going to
Speaker 1: be a pro business prime minister. Well it's taken the
Speaker 1: BCA a long time to realize that that's actually not
Speaker 1: the case.
Speaker 5: Well, Alberzi made a lot of promises, didn't he before
Speaker 5: he's elected. I don't think one of them has been
Speaker 5: delivered except to the trade unions. That's the only promises
Speaker 5: he's delivered in So I'm very pleased to see that
Speaker 5: the Business councilor is finally coming to its senses, dare
Speaker 5: I say, and realizing that this government is absolutely in
Speaker 5: their not in their interest at all. And I think
Speaker 5: they're making a strong case. And I watched Albanezi's response
Speaker 5: to the draft being leaked out and getting the points
Speaker 5: coming out, and I can only describe it as pathetic.
Speaker 5: I mean, he stands there when people are hurting, when
Speaker 5: inflation is still sticky, when people are being talked about
Speaker 5: of losing their houses, and he talks about for each other,
Speaker 5: lowering the cost of childcare and free medicine or words
Speaker 5: to that effect, and people just listen to these words
Speaker 5: as if he's proud of what he's achieved, which is nothing.
Speaker 5: So it is important that the Business Council will come
Speaker 5: out and say that what you're doing is destroying this country.
Speaker 5: Two surpluses charmbers.
Speaker 1: Start and by the way, comments supported by Bill Keilty absolutely.
Speaker 5: Remember well, bro I do remember well, and I do
Speaker 5: remember that he and Bob Hawk with their accord was
Speaker 5: aimed at stabilizing and brings them wages claims down so
Speaker 5: that you could beat inflation and start to have people
Speaker 5: have faith in the ability of their door to buy
Speaker 5: the things that they need. All we're doing now is
Speaker 5: with the wages chasing infletion is people have more money
Speaker 5: in their pocket, but it buys lets, it can't pay
Speaker 5: the bills.
Speaker 1: It's a very different labor government what we're seeing today
Speaker 1: from the Wholke Keeting era.
Speaker 6: You know it was very different and understatement speak well, this.
Speaker 1: Is a radical left government. You know, it's not mainstream
Speaker 1: at all. Even under Kevin Rudd labor was much more mainstream.
Speaker 1: Caleb correct.
Speaker 6: And you know the fact that the Business Council is
Speaker 6: speaking out. I mean fights between business and labor are
Speaker 6: not a new thing. But what it indicates is a
Speaker 6: lack of business confidence right now, and a lack of
Speaker 6: business confidence ultimately leads to less investment and less employment,
Speaker 6: and that will be the biggest issue for the government here.
Speaker 4: Potentially.
Speaker 6: One of the things that's been spoken about tonight at
Speaker 6: the dinner is the collective bargaining multi employer bargaining that
Speaker 6: has come in as part of the government's IR laws. Now, interestingly,
Speaker 6: that's something that actually benefits in some ways big business
Speaker 6: over small business, So it's interesting that the BCA is
Speaker 6: speaking out about it. But ultimately what it means is
Speaker 6: that businesses that perhaps cannot afford to pay the higher
Speaker 6: wages that a larger employer could absorb get put out
Speaker 6: of the system. You move them out of the system. Well,
Speaker 6: where those people going to go to work? And that
Speaker 6: will ultimately be the problem. The union's now talking about
Speaker 6: setting up a work Choices style campaign when it comes
Speaker 6: to the next federal election. Good luck to them. The
Speaker 6: Coalition and the Business Council have to run a campaign
Speaker 6: on if you want a job, you have to defeat
Speaker 6: these IR laws.
Speaker 1: You think that would be a fight coalition would welcome.
Speaker 1: Well let's turn now to the shocking allegations against the
Speaker 1: ABC that they doctored gunshot audio on a story that
Speaker 1: accused the retired Special Forces soldier Heston Russell of war crimes.
Speaker 1: We spoke about this at length last night on the show.
Speaker 1: Well today Heston Russell has doubled down and he's accused
Speaker 1: the ABC of fabricating more footage. Here's that breaking news
Speaker 1: this afternoon.
Speaker 7: But mister Russell alleged today that another broadcast on the
Speaker 7: flagship seven point thirty report has even more added gunshots.
Speaker 7: How many shots did.
Speaker 8: You count there? It's about eleven or twelve? Do you
Speaker 8: think they should take this down? Absolutely?
Speaker 9: This is completely new audio brought in from somewhere else
Speaker 9: that digging themselves a deeper hole because there's been many
Speaker 9: edits made to sensationalize this story.
Speaker 7: The ABC has been contacted for comment, but mister Heston,
Speaker 7: who's already won a successful defamation case against the broadcaster
Speaker 7: for four hundred thousand dollars, also wants an apology and
Speaker 7: is calling for a parliamentary inquiry into the issue.
Speaker 1: And then, quite amazing timing, the ABC's director of News,
Speaker 1: Justin Stevens, happened to be giving a speech at the
Speaker 1: Melbourne Press Club today and he was asked whether he
Speaker 1: was going to apologize to Heston Russell, and once again
Speaker 1: he refused, he said, I'm not going to preempt that. Well,
Speaker 1: the arrogance here is just unbelievable. Heston Russell now considering
Speaker 1: further legal action against the public broadcaster. But bron When
Speaker 1: Christa in The Nightly wrote a brilliant piece where he
Speaker 1: spoke about Mark Willersey the journalist to arrogance, he said
Speaker 1: he was caught out basically spinning a battlefield rumor into
Speaker 1: a war crime. And I think that really captures the
Speaker 1: nub of what's happened here.
Speaker 5: This is really shocking. The ABC has been doing some
Speaker 5: awful things, but this is just beyond the pale. And
Speaker 5: if they think they can get away with just firing
Speaker 5: some poor person who was in the editing booth and
Speaker 5: letting everybody else float along on, that's not going to wash.
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 5: It's interesting the staff of the ABC are public servants,
Speaker 5: so they are actually covered by the knack and perhaps
Speaker 5: this is an issue it should be referred to the knack.
Speaker 5: Interesting thought, Well, it's serious enough to because there's an
Speaker 5: academic who wrote who said Stephen Morris, professor of Politics,
Speaker 5: said political corruption is the illegitimate use of public power
Speaker 5: to benefit a private interest. And if a pursuit of
Speaker 5: in the words of mister Stevens today, trying to say
Speaker 5: that journalists seeking to gain acclamation as journalists was.
Speaker 1: A pursuit.
Speaker 5: I think we're getting into very murky territory. I'm not
Speaker 5: making any allegations. I'm just saying that this may matter
Speaker 5: is so serious it cannot be left to the ABC
Speaker 5: to investigate itself. The idea of a parliamentary inquiry is one,
Speaker 5: but perhaps the NACKT does have a role.
Speaker 1: Well, and Heston has said there might be further legal action.
Speaker 1: That is something and you considering and talking about with
Speaker 1: Supersanthro and.
Speaker 5: Rebecca Jill as well as not instead of.
Speaker 1: But Caleb, I think a lot of people looking at
Speaker 1: this and they see the errors. They watch that amazing
Speaker 1: spotlight show on Sunday Night on seven that revealed all
Speaker 1: of this, and they think, how can that ABC keep going,
Speaker 1: keep pursuing something to the point where he might nearly
Speaker 1: be on the verge of taking his life, and then
Speaker 1: just refuse to apologize. Well, when it's been found in
Speaker 1: a court of law that they got it wrong.
Speaker 6: Because the ABC is so high and mighty, and many
Speaker 6: of the people who work at the ABC are so
Speaker 6: high and mighty. They believe that they are more superior
Speaker 6: than the rest of us, those who work or work
Speaker 6: in the quote unquote tabloid media or the Murdoch Media
Speaker 6: or the nine media or what you're all scum. We
Speaker 6: at the ABC are above all of you, and so
Speaker 6: they feel like they can do anything without impunity.
Speaker 1: A bottom of correct as willis he said.
Speaker 6: And the problem is, though, that the ABC has engaged
Speaker 6: here in fake news. I mean, this is just absolutely news.
Speaker 6: And I do not for one second by this argument
Speaker 6: that it comes down to an error that was made
Speaker 6: in editing. Right now, you might forgive a print journalist
Speaker 6: who wrote a story and there was a headline that
Speaker 6: went on it that was a little bit misleading, but
Speaker 6: it wasn't the breaking story of the day. Whatever. Right,
Speaker 6: you make a complaint, someone complains about it, you go
Speaker 6: to the subedter, to the subeter apologizes. If you're breaking
Speaker 6: a major exclusive story, whether it's in television, print, online, whatever,
Speaker 6: you go over every single little bit of that before
Speaker 6: it goes to where or is printed, because it's ultimately
Speaker 6: your name is the journalist, your barline that goes next
Speaker 6: to it. I do not buy for a minute that
Speaker 6: other people in the ABC were not aware of the
Speaker 6: fact that was docted. Either they were aware or they
Speaker 6: took very little care in checking the product they were
Speaker 6: going to put to it.
Speaker 1: Just adding there. Of course, the journalists have denied that
Speaker 1: they had anything to do with it. Now, let's have
Speaker 1: a look at the fallout from this freshwater polling that
Speaker 1: suggested a Dutton minority government is within reach for the Coalition. Well,
Speaker 1: Labor is hitting back, going on the defense. They are
Speaker 1: using the line that Darton has extreme right views and
Speaker 1: a lack of policy and that this is going to
Speaker 1: see Poles tighten up closer to the federal election. But Bronwin,
Speaker 1: this is the issue Labor has always believed Albanezy has
Speaker 1: always believed that Peter Dutton is unelectable and so this
Speaker 1: has in a sense given them a bit of protection.
Speaker 1: But it's just not the case.
Speaker 5: Well, they also said the same thing about Tony Abbott.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 5: And when I look at mister Alban Easy, he sometimes
Speaker 5: looks like he's come off on our selection and think
Speaker 5: that this is supposed to be the leader of a
Speaker 5: modern contemporary society.
Speaker 1: Come off what sorry on our selection?
Speaker 5: It's an old movie where it's kind of like Dad
Speaker 5: and Dave.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm in pieces which you have a screening, a
Speaker 1: family screen that's by the bye.
Speaker 5: But I mean other people say, of course, mister Chalmers
Speaker 5: looks like I'm a pile, which is another old television production.
Speaker 5: But to the point, to the point, it is a
Speaker 5: matter of Peter Dutton being very mainstream. He's expressing the
Speaker 5: views that ordinary people see are the way we should
Speaker 5: be going. That labor is taking the country absolutely in
Speaker 5: the wrong direction. You're seeing already people putting themselves out
Speaker 5: to be alternate leaders. You've got Burke out there, you've
Speaker 5: got charmers, and now you've got Blebersec who's busy promoting
Speaker 5: herself as a good left wing candidate. And I was
Speaker 5: fascinated by the words of Kelty in particular that the
Speaker 5: government was losing its way. Yes, of course, I think
Speaker 5: I remember that there were similar words, a good government
Speaker 5: losing its way the put Gillard in place of Rudd.
Speaker 5: So I think there's no accident about some of these
Speaker 5: words being used, and I think there is. I think
Speaker 5: there is time for alban Easy to make some progress.
Speaker 5: But I do think that that Financial Review poll it
Speaker 5: shows that Peter Dutton is possible to get the keys
Speaker 5: to the lodge, is certainly true.
Speaker 1: And there's no question there are people in Labor, particularly
Speaker 1: in marginal Western seats like Tony Burke, who are panicking
Speaker 1: about this Caleb.
Speaker 6: Of course they are, and deservedly so. I mean, the
Speaker 6: great thing about Peter Dutton is that he has been
Speaker 6: so underestimated for such a long time, and polling for
Speaker 6: the better part of a year now has shown that,
Speaker 6: at least on terms of strength, people rate Peter Dutton
Speaker 6: better than the Prime minister. He doesn't necessarily win on popularity,
Speaker 6: but he wins on strength. He wins on understanding issues
Speaker 6: like cost of living, the biggest issues that are around
Speaker 6: right now exactly and ultimately when it comes to an election,
Speaker 6: they are the things that people will be thinking about.
Speaker 6: He's been strong to characterize him as you know, extreme
Speaker 6: right or far right, as Labor is trying to do,
Speaker 6: or at least they believe privately, is nonsense. And if
Speaker 6: that's how they're going to estimate him, well they're on
Speaker 6: a hiding too, don't thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, there's such a far left government, you know,
Speaker 1: compared to siss governments, right, They that he would be
Speaker 1: far right to that, you know, compared to Centrius governments,
Speaker 1: like I said, like Rudds, like Gillards, like even State
Speaker 1: Chris Men's and Peter Mullen askus there's very Centrius labor company.
Speaker 6: By the way, Bronwin, I played a bit of Bye
Speaker 6: Bye Birdie on the Sunday show Down the other night
Speaker 6: and Paul chardedly for that. So you're in good company.
Speaker 1: Have to give us a list of the movies to
Speaker 1: catch up on. Brunwin, Bishop and calebind Great to see
Speaker 1: you both well. Today. Let's turn to today's bombshell revelations
Speaker 1: around Daniel Andrews and that infamous crash with the teen
Speaker 1: cyclist Ryan Mulliman will A review by a former police
Speaker 1: assistant commissioner says the investigation into the crash was an
Speaker 1: overt cover up to avoid implicating a political figure. The
Speaker 1: review suggested that the police investigation into the accident was flawed, unfounded,
Speaker 1: and contrary to the available evidence. These are damning findings now. Sadly,
Speaker 1: the commissioner who did that review, doctor Raymond Shuey, died
Speaker 1: in August, just days after completing his final report. The
Speaker 1: review was commissioned by the cyclist's lawyers as part of
Speaker 1: an ongoing Supreme caught damage proceedings into the crash. Now,
Speaker 1: in response, former Premier Daniel Andrews and his wife have
Speaker 1: just this afternoon made a statement. They said, this so
Speaker 1: called report was commissioned by lawyers on behalf of their
Speaker 1: clients who seking money through the courts by suing their
Speaker 1: former lawyers. We are not a party to this legal action.
Speaker 1: We did nothing wrong. This matter has already been comprehensively
Speaker 1: and independently investigated and closed by Victoria police and integrity agencies. Well,
Speaker 1: let's bring in now Colin Robertson. He's a design engineer
Speaker 1: and consultant to the mueller Men family. He's been helping
Speaker 1: them fight for in their eyes justice. Welcome to the show,
Speaker 1: Thanks for your time. Look just how damning are these findings.
Speaker 9: I'll put simply, Shari very damning. Doctor Shuey looked at
Speaker 9: Dr Shuey looked at two main aspects.
Speaker 8: He looked at the.
Speaker 9: Actual crash itself, how it happened and how it didn't happen.
Speaker 9: And he looked at the police investigation. That was another
Speaker 9: area of expertise is police procedure, Police investigation so to
Speaker 9: the first to the first item, the accident itself, he's
Speaker 9: concluded conclusively that it's implausible or impossible for the accident
Speaker 9: to have happened the way that the Andrews and Victoria
Speaker 9: Police that had happened. To the second point, the police
Speaker 9: investigation put simply, there was no investigation.
Speaker 1: So he's concluded this was a cover up to protect
Speaker 1: a public figure, a cover up to protect Daniel Andrews.
Speaker 1: That's the allegation here. Can you point to some of
Speaker 1: the details that doctor Shuey drew on in his reppoint
Speaker 1: to make this claim.
Speaker 8: Yeah, certainly.
Speaker 9: One of the points that he strongly emphasized was that
Speaker 9: the driver's name was recorded as Catherine Kessick in the
Speaker 9: official police documents and all the other documents, he's referred
Speaker 9: to as Catherine Andrews. Another point that he was very
Speaker 9: firm on as the police failed to provide Peter Melman,
Speaker 9: the father of Ryan, with the driver's details. In fact,
Speaker 9: outright refused to provide those details, which in a matter
Speaker 9: of police procedure, both the driver and in an accident
Speaker 9: and the person who's been hit are entitled to those details.
Speaker 1: You've been involved in this case for the past couple
Speaker 1: of years, you've been helping Ryan's family and Ryan himself,
Speaker 1: creating re enactments, pouring over the evidence. What to you
Speaker 1: is one of the most compelling pieces of evidence that
Speaker 1: indicate there was something wrong with this investigation right from
Speaker 1: the start.
Speaker 9: Well, listen, anyone with the technical background, or in fact
Speaker 9: a functioning brain, when they saw those three grainy photographs
Speaker 9: of the crash damage. The official version, Andrew's version of
Speaker 9: the crash is that Ryan hit them at speed, in
Speaker 9: fact a perfect tea bone. So look at those photos,
Speaker 9: it becomes immediately apparent that the car hit Ryan. In fact,
Speaker 9: Dr Suey has concluded that the car has cut the
Speaker 9: corner or made a sweep turn as he calls it,
Speaker 9: at speed at say forty five kilometers hour, and they
Speaker 9: simply run Ryan down as he's crossed the road.
Speaker 1: Now that these damning findings have been made public, this
Speaker 1: report is finished. Are Ryan and his family looking at
Speaker 1: further legal action? Are they looking at any other complaints
Speaker 1: to other organizations in Victoria?
Speaker 9: Well, listen, I'll emphasize at the start that Ryan's family
Speaker 9: are not looking for monetary compensation, although of course that
Speaker 9: may be an outcome that the current legal action sort
Speaker 9: of leads to they are actually seeking justice for Ryan.
Speaker 9: They want the truth of They want the truth of
Speaker 9: the accident to come out, and they want the public
Speaker 9: to know what happened that day.
Speaker 5: So there is a.
Speaker 9: Current civil action against the lawyers Slater and Gordon who
Speaker 9: represented Ryan against the TAC and the initial accident. But
Speaker 9: the family are also calling for the Victoria Police to
Speaker 9: reopen the investigation in light of doctor Suey's comprehensive forensic
Speaker 9: thirty six page report.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't expect that to happen under the current labor government,
Speaker 1: I suppose.
Speaker 9: Well, look, I guess at this point, let's just say
Speaker 9: they're asking if no action is taken. As my understanding is,
Speaker 9: there are civil remedies, legal action that can be taken
Speaker 9: against Victoria Police and not just the force themselves, but
Speaker 9: the actual officers involved in what doctor Shuey was absolutely
Speaker 9: out of.
Speaker 8: It was a cover up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this now is going to have a long
Speaker 1: way to run. As you've just said, there Ryan's family,
Speaker 1: the cyclist family asking Victoria Police reopen its investigation. If not,
Speaker 1: there are other legal avenues to pursue. Colin Robertson really
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Now after the break, the US is
Speaker 1: pressuring Australia to reject a PROHAMUS UN resolution. Well, how
Speaker 1: can Penny wang possibly support such an extreme proposal that
Speaker 1: ultimately does back terrorism. Colin Rubinstein will join me next,
Speaker 1: and what a surprise, the Prime Minister's social media band
Speaker 1: for kids hits a roadblock with big Tech refusing to
Speaker 1: enforce age checks. All of that still coming up, welcome back. Well,
Speaker 1: the pressure is on Pennywog tonight, and not just from US,
Speaker 1: but from the Biden administration. Biden's own team is urging
Speaker 1: Australia to say no to a draft UN resolution by
Speaker 1: the Palestinian Authority that demands an unconditional withdrawal from Gaza
Speaker 1: and the West Bank, as I spoke about at the
Speaker 1: start of the show, also recommends sanctions against Israel. Now
Speaker 1: Labor is reportedly weighing its position. It should be a
Speaker 1: direct and easy no. Well, to discuss this further, let's
Speaker 1: bring in now Australian Israel Jewish Affairs Council Executive Director,
Speaker 1: doctor Colin Rubinstein. Colin, welcome to the show. Thanks very
Speaker 1: How extreme is this resolution? In your opinion, it's.
Speaker 10: About as extreme as you can get. It's the ultra extreme.
Speaker 10: It's basically calling not only for the isolation of Israel,
Speaker 10: but the delegitimization of Israel and ultimately is dismantling. So
Speaker 10: it's an omnibus resolution got everything in it, all sorts
Speaker 10: of boycotts, economic boycotts, military boycotts, calling Israel apartheid and
Speaker 10: basically calling for the unraveling of Israel and demanding the
Speaker 10: imposition the coercion of Israel to accept the extreme Palestinian
Speaker 10: demand for a state, not calling for negotiations. It upsets
Speaker 10: thirty years of Australian by partisan support, by the way,
Speaker 10: which is very negotiated resolution leading to a two state outcome.
Speaker 10: None of that in this resolution show it should be
Speaker 10: very clear cut for Australia simply devote against it because
Speaker 10: it's so extreme and it's totally counterproductive actually to moving forward,
Speaker 10: because it will only delay the possibility of genuine negotiations
Speaker 10: going forward, not expedite them.
Speaker 1: Apart from the racism or anti semitism of boycotts on
Speaker 1: Israeli companies and depriving Israel of weapons to defend itself
Speaker 1: and to fight terrorists, I think one of the most
Speaker 1: extreme parts of this is the demand for an unconditional
Speaker 1: withdrawal from Gaza. What country in the world would leave
Speaker 1: its own civilians, over a hundred of them just as
Speaker 1: hostages in the arms of terrorists. Who would ever support
Speaker 1: an unconditional withdrawal leaving behind the hostages.
Speaker 10: None, of course, it's completely Israel's right to self defense.
Speaker 10: There's no mention whatsoever of the atrocities of Oclob seven.
Speaker 10: And you know, voting for this or even abstaining it
Speaker 10: away would represent a reward for Hamas terrorism, for the genocidal,
Speaker 10: barbaric tactics and strategy of Comas, and also the Palestinian
Speaker 10: authority which has its pay for slave policy, which also
Speaker 10: incites hatred towards Jews, which needs the radical lising. And
Speaker 10: so it's just totally counterproductive in every possible respect. And
Speaker 10: you know, a country like Australia shouldn't have to think
Speaker 10: twice about rejecting and opposing this resolution, and for the
Speaker 10: Americans to have to even pressure Australia to do this,
Speaker 10: it's not a good look for Australia in terms of
Speaker 10: our relationship with the United States, in terms of our
Speaker 10: standing as a democratic country which should be supporting our
Speaker 10: friends and democratic allies in this situation.
Speaker 1: It shows the weakness of the current alban Ezi government.
Speaker 1: As you say, all Australian governments, it's been bipartisan policy
Speaker 1: for years to support Israel and its right self defense.
Speaker 1: The fact that the Biden administration has come to Australia
Speaker 1: and urge it to reject this motion, and I mean
Speaker 1: it could very well be the position that Pennywong ends
Speaker 1: up abstaining from.
Speaker 10: It, well, that would be very disappointing if Australia can't
Speaker 10: simply reject this resolution. An abstention, unfortunately, would reflect the
Speaker 10: tilt against Israel that we've seen not only since October seven,
Speaker 10: but since this government took power, and it would be
Speaker 10: a very retrogade step, I think for Australia standing in
Speaker 10: our national interests and our national security.
Speaker 1: Now I want to ask you about this story. This
Speaker 1: was originally front page of the Daily Telegraph last week.
Speaker 1: I covered it on my show. It's now in the
Speaker 1: Australian today that the federal government, the alban Ezi government,
Speaker 1: has made available millions of dollars in funding to organizations
Speaker 1: they have to apply for it for grants. One of
Speaker 1: those organizations is UMA United Muslims Australia, which promotes on
Speaker 1: its website one of the hate preachers, Sheikh Dadoune, who
Speaker 1: said the day after October seven attacks that he was elated.
Speaker 1: He was literally celebrating in the streets. What do you
Speaker 1: think about the Albanezi government making available millions of dollars
Speaker 1: in funding to organizations that are promoting hate preachers.
Speaker 10: Look, the program itself is good. It's to enhance security
Speaker 10: of faith organizations, Jewish, Muslim and so on. So the
Speaker 10: program is good. But actually giving grants to organizations with
Speaker 10: who have within them speakers and individuals who actually promote
Speaker 10: hatred and violence is totally counterproductive the whole purpose of
Speaker 10: the program. You don't give grants to those who are
Speaker 10: inciting hatred and violence. That simply undermines the whole purpose
Speaker 10: of the program, which is to enhance the security of community.
Speaker 10: Is an organization. So it's a nonsense proposition. And of
Speaker 10: course I think, as the opposition spokesman correctly put it today,
Speaker 10: this sort of grant should not be given. It's really
Speaker 10: an abomination.
Speaker 1: It really isn't at the same time, failing to crack
Speaker 1: down on hate speech. It's been nearly a year. We
Speaker 1: know the laws need to be improved, and nothing's been done.
Speaker 10: There's certain slackness in granting public money all around front
Speaker 10: the Australian Research Council to a variety of other programs
Speaker 10: designed to enhance social cohesion. You do not give it
Speaker 10: to individuals who enhance racial hatred, racism and even inside violence.
Speaker 10: So we have to have a good look at the
Speaker 10: way in which the taxpace money is spent. I think
Speaker 10: in all of these cases, I just.
Speaker 1: What gets me is that front page of the Daily
Speaker 1: Telegraph in the Australian covering it here on the show,
Speaker 1: and the government just shrugs its shoulders, doesn't care, moves
Speaker 1: on the rest of the media. Let them get away
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 10: I don't think the Australia and public will let them
Speaker 10: get away with it. At the end of the day,
Speaker 10: I think we still live in a democracy and you
Speaker 10: can't fill all the people all the time. I really
Speaker 10: feel the Australian public is waking up to the problems
Speaker 10: being inflicted on us. We want to see cohesion. We
Speaker 10: don't want to see programs and policies going to those
Speaker 10: individuals and organizations who are undermining the very fabric of
Speaker 10: our so far cohesive multicultural society. You don't give money
Speaker 10: your support to those who are undermining our commitment to
Speaker 10: the core values of democracy and the security and viability
Speaker 10: and liberty of our society.
Speaker 1: Absolutely agree, Like I say often, you know, we can
Speaker 1: all have our own opinions as we do. It's a
Speaker 1: democracy on what's happening in the Middle East. But the
Speaker 1: most important thing for all of us is not to
Speaker 1: have racism, not to have violence on our streets, for
Speaker 1: our children to grow up in peace, that those conflicts
Speaker 1: shouldn't be playing out here. We shouldn't be worried for
Speaker 1: everyone's physical safety. Colin Rubinstein really appreciate good time, Thanks
Speaker 1: very much. Now after the break, how a twelve year
Speaker 1: old girl was let down by the school system, her
Speaker 1: family now begging for answers. Plus, Donald Trump speaks out
Speaker 1: after a second failed assassination attempt, with bodycam footage showing
Speaker 1: the moment the gunman was captured by the cops. That's
Speaker 1: coming up, welcome back well. Labour strategists are now panicking
Speaker 1: after the weekends council elections in New South Wales in
Speaker 1: key seats, particularly in western Sydney, voters punished labor and
Speaker 1: they put their preferences and votes with the independents or
Speaker 1: the Greens. Well, let's bring you now Menzies Research Center
Speaker 1: executive director Nick Cater and former Victorian Liberal Party president
Speaker 1: Michael Kroger. Welcome to you both. Michael, what's your read
Speaker 1: on Saturday's local election. We are hearing reports in all
Speaker 1: the papers that Labour's absolutely panicking after the fall in
Speaker 1: their vote. What message does this send to Albanezi.
Speaker 11: Look what's been happening over the last few months is
Speaker 11: it's sour. It's sands through the hourglass, I should say,
Speaker 11: bit by bit, day by day, the vote is ebbing
Speaker 11: away from federal labor. And this is due to just
Speaker 11: massive disappointment by the general populace with their economic performance
Speaker 11: and by various sections and groups within the community anger
Speaker 11: about what they've done. So the mining industry is furious
Speaker 11: about this gold mining decision in New South Wales, the
Speaker 11: business community generally, the furious about industrial relations changes, the
Speaker 11: Aboriginal community of furious that he's dumped out the Macaratic Commission,
Speaker 11: and on and on it goes. So it's just massive disappointment.
Speaker 11: It's a B grade government you can see it and
Speaker 11: every electoral result, whether it's New South Wales and Northern
Speaker 11: Territory or Shari next month, it's also going to then
Speaker 11: translate into Queensland. So I think the electorate are over
Speaker 11: Labor and I think petered Up is probably the favorite.
Speaker 8: Now to become Prime Minister after the next election.
Speaker 1: And that is a prediction that Mare and Mara are making.
Speaker 1: But Nick, it's interesting that at least with these council elections,
Speaker 1: the vote from Labor didn't go to the Liberal Party.
Speaker 1: It went to the Greens or to Independence in their
Speaker 1: heartland seats. What does this tell you? Do you think
Speaker 1: this is about the Gaza issue?
Speaker 8: Well, I think yes, it was about Gaza. I think
Speaker 8: we've got to be cautious about how we interpret this
Speaker 8: because I've got to remember, of course, the Liberal Party
Speaker 8: stuffed up really badly and didn't get candidates in a
Speaker 8: lot of those seats. So many of those many of
Speaker 8: those councilarious, many of those wards there would be no
Speaker 8: Liberal Party candidate. But this is seriously troubling for Labor
Speaker 8: because you know, traditionally the Green vote holds up about
Speaker 8: as far as Alburns. For people who know Sydney and
Speaker 8: then it drops right off a cliff. And yet it's
Speaker 8: in those far west, in the Western Sydney regions that
Speaker 8: it's picked up where it's normally isn't high. In one way,
Speaker 8: I think nobody couldn't be pleased with himself in the
Speaker 8: sense that obviously he's been able to hold on to
Speaker 8: the reality on the Middle East enough that at least
Speaker 8: the extreme Palestinian supporters think he's let them down. But
Speaker 8: I must say he's been all over the place. He's
Speaker 8: neither one thing nor the other on this. And because
Speaker 8: of danger now it is, of course he'll go completely
Speaker 8: the other way, push out towards the Greens, because he
Speaker 8: knows how his own seat could potentially be under threat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're already seeing him speak very vocally about
Speaker 1: the housing issue, which is one area that the Greens
Speaker 1: have dominated. Now it looks like the Prime Minister's pledge
Speaker 1: to have a social media ban on mobile phones for
Speaker 1: uzzie kids or up to the age of forteen or sixteen,
Speaker 1: it's already hitting roadblocks. Reports that big tech companies aren't
Speaker 1: very cooperative in trying to help labor navigate this. I mean,
Speaker 1: Michael Kroiger, this isn't a surprise. This was always going
Speaker 1: to be difficult and the problem is the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: and Michelle Roland didn't start work on this until the
Speaker 1: eleventh hour, when they could have been working on it
Speaker 1: the entire year. They started working out they think they're
Speaker 1: going to have this legislation in by the end of
Speaker 1: the year. It's just not going to happen.
Speaker 11: I think it's unlikely they'll get legislation before the Parliament
Speaker 11: parsuitar of the Senate that's going to get passed, because,
Speaker 11: as you say, it's been a rush, and these big
Speaker 11: tech companies, they're not fools.
Speaker 8: This is not the first government that's.
Speaker 11: Tried to curtail air their activities and it won't be
Speaker 11: the last. So these people are masters of the univers
Speaker 11: as they say.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 11: I think Albanizi having made such a slow start, even
Speaker 11: though his intentions and the intention of the federal government,
Speaker 11: the state governments and all parties effectively agree with this,
Speaker 11: that's something's got to be done. It's going to be
Speaker 11: very hard to do it quickly. Albanesi hasn't shown the
Speaker 11: propensity to be strong on issues, and you know, they'll
Speaker 11: probably run the clock down until the election and try
Speaker 11: and try their luck with the new Liberal government. But
Speaker 11: I don't think they'll get fired with Peter Dutton either,
Speaker 11: so I think it's just a matter of time, but
Speaker 11: it may not be this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, it's not going to be this year.
Speaker 1: I mean their trial though. Sorry, the tender for the
Speaker 1: company to run the trial doesn't even finish until well
Speaker 1: into October, so the trial is not going to start
Speaker 1: until mid October. There's no way they're going to have
Speaker 1: legislation in by the end of the year if it
Speaker 1: is based on that trial. Now, I want to end
Speaker 1: with this really devastating story that Ben Fordham broke yesterday
Speaker 1: morning on his show. This is about a little girl
Speaker 1: called Charlotte, twelve years old. She took her own life
Speaker 1: last Monday after relentless bullying at school. Now her parents
Speaker 1: have set in a statement to Ben Fordham, we lost
Speaker 1: our baby girl in the most awful circumstances. They said,
Speaker 1: no words can ever describe what it's like for us
Speaker 1: and life will never be the same again. Nick the
Speaker 1: family are making this public. They've agreed for permission for
Speaker 1: their daughter's photograph to be aired there, saying this is
Speaker 1: what she was dealing with. But yet the school sounder
Speaker 1: Sabina is refusing to really accept that this was a
Speaker 1: case of bully.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, our thoughts and prayers go out to
Speaker 8: the family. This is just terrible. He's never had covered
Speaker 8: from this. It's a most horrible, horrible thing you can imagine.
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, I think we haven't seen enough
Speaker 8: action from the school. But I think this goes back
Speaker 8: to the previous story on social media and smartphones, particularly,
Speaker 8: evidence is there. It's in abundance that there has been
Speaker 8: a big rise in teenage anxiety, in suicide, everything connect
Speaker 8: mental illness, which started with the smartphone. Once kids have
Speaker 8: got the smartphone and they could do all this stuff
Speaker 8: on the mown. Now, I don't know in this case
Speaker 8: whether that's a factor, but it's certainly a factor with
Speaker 8: a lot of youth suicides, particularly girls as it happens.
Speaker 8: The statistics are very clear on that. So this goes
Speaker 8: to why Alban Easiest waited this long for something that
Speaker 8: people knew was a problem years ago. In fact, the
Speaker 8: coalition took a policy to the last election to deal
Speaker 8: with this, and he's taken right till the end of
Speaker 8: his term to try and rush something through which clearly
Speaker 8: isn't thought through. The technology is not there, he doesn't
Speaker 8: even know what age he wants is to kick in at.
Speaker 8: So the priorities of the government are wrong. And I
Speaker 8: really hope that the incoming government focuses on this very
Speaker 8: very strongly.
Speaker 1: And you're right social media plays such a big role
Speaker 1: because before kids could go home from school, they'd have
Speaker 1: at least a reprieve. But now the bullying follows the
Speaker 1: kids on the phone, on the social media. They feel
Speaker 1: like they can't escape at it and it can become
Speaker 1: too overwhelming. And we should point out that if you
Speaker 1: or anyone you know is in distress, Lifeline is on
Speaker 1: thirteen eleven fourteen and Kids Help Line on one eight
Speaker 1: hundred fifty five, one eight hundred. All right, Nick Cata
Speaker 1: and Michael Kroger, great to see you both.
Speaker 8: Thanks y.
Speaker 1: Now after the break, Donald Trump is blaming Joe Biden
Speaker 1: and Kamala Harris for inciting the second assassination attempt, once
Speaker 1: again calling out their rhetoric. We'll got it live to
Speaker 1: the US with Adam Crichton after the break. Welcome back.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's go live now to Washington and
Speaker 1: bring in The Australians correspondent Adam Crichton, Adam, so much
Speaker 1: news with the upcoming US presidential election. A shocking second
Speaker 1: assassination attempt. We've now seen today the body cam footage
Speaker 1: very dramatic of the moment that the cops arrested the
Speaker 1: man who's now been charged. How did Donald Trump respond
Speaker 1: to this today he spoke for the first time.
Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, certainly the response has been very different from
Speaker 12: the first assassination attempt, where he really reigned in his
Speaker 12: rhetoric and he was more careful to not put blame
Speaker 12: on the Democrats. But this time, certainly he's gone full throttle.
Speaker 12: He's been extremely aggressive in saying that the reason for
Speaker 12: this second attempt was the Democrat party rhetoric and that's
Speaker 12: from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris down. So certainly a
Speaker 12: very different response this time. Look, I mean, is that fair?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 12: I mean both sides I think engage in this sort
Speaker 12: of extreme rhetoric, and I think that's you know, that
Speaker 12: is partly because there are very large differences now between
Speaker 12: the two major political parties in the US, and they
Speaker 12: also need to get their base out to vote.
Speaker 1: You know, this is an assassination attempt. I think we
Speaker 1: just in a sense have really undermined just how serious
Speaker 1: this is trying to kill off a future president and
Speaker 1: past president. Do you think that maybe some of the
Speaker 1: leading political figures in the United States former presidents haven't
Speaker 1: been as vocal about this as they should be.
Speaker 12: Yeah, look, that's a very good point, show. I mean,
Speaker 12: certainly the US does have a horrible history of political assassinations.
Speaker 12: You know, way more in this country, I think than
Speaker 12: other countries around the world, even per capita. And yes,
Speaker 12: you're right. Look, I think you know, the former presidents
Speaker 12: have not really said any think about this, I mean,
Speaker 12: you know, and maybe that goes to the point that
Speaker 12: Kamala Harra said that she was very glad that Donald
Speaker 12: Trump was safe, but she also says that, you know
Speaker 12: that he's an existential threat to democracy. So I mean,
Speaker 12: can you believe both of those things at the same time.
Speaker 12: You know, some Democrats liken him to Hitler. I mean,
Speaker 12: you know, would you be happy if Hitler was still alive?
Speaker 12: I don't think so. So I think there's a real
Speaker 12: problem here with the rhetoric.
Speaker 1: Well, the Secret Services once again under scrutiny, but Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has thanked all the law enforcement officials. The thing
Speaker 1: that concerned me though, is that there are reports of
Speaker 1: this assassin was in the vicinity of the golf course
Speaker 1: for some eleven hours before he was noticed. I mean,
Speaker 1: how does that happen, that there's someone driving around with
Speaker 1: weapons for eleven hours before being picked up.
Speaker 12: Yeah, look, it is extraordinary. I mean he was in
Speaker 12: the city of the golf course. Well, actually in the
Speaker 12: same spot. That's what the FBI said press conference earlier,
Speaker 12: and that's why he brought packs of food. Apparently the
Speaker 12: backpacks of course. Well, I mean one of the mysteries
Speaker 12: was that Trump's arrival at the course was not on
Speaker 12: his public schedule. He doesn't have a public schedule, and
Speaker 12: so I guess this guy Routh was just waiting around
Speaker 12: for that twelve hours until he arrived. I mean, everyone
Speaker 12: knows that Trump likes to play golf. Was on the weekend,
Speaker 12: that's when Trump does play golf, So look, he was
Speaker 12: just waiting around.
Speaker 6: I Mean.
Speaker 12: The one crazy thing about this guy is his age.
Speaker 12: I think he was fifty eight. Like, that's a really
Speaker 12: old would be assassin, don't you think. I Mean, most
Speaker 12: people tend to calm down as they get older, but
Speaker 12: certainly not this guy who's you know, whose social media
Speaker 12: posts actually reflected all the Democrat talking points.
Speaker 1: All right, Adam Crichton, we're out of time. Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining me. I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock. Right now,
Speaker 1: here's Paul