WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 25 July

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<v Speaker 1>Why on Skyins Australia. This is de Nika de Georgio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight. Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Albinezi issues his strongest condemnation of Israel to date, saying

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<v Speaker 2>its actions cannot be defended or ignored. What about the

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<v Speaker 2>actions of Hummas Labour's green hydrogen and energy plans are

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<v Speaker 2>off the rails yet Chris Bowen remains in denial, saying

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<v Speaker 2>everything is going swimmingly and I'll speak with just Into

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<v Speaker 2>Nampajimpa Price about the fiery clash in the Senate over

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to country, but first tonight. The relationship between Australia

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<v Speaker 2>and Israel has hit its lowest level since the Middle

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<v Speaker 2>East Crisis began. The Prime Minister has released his strongest

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<v Speaker 2>statement to date condemning Israel and actually had the nerve

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<v Speaker 2>to dictate how the Jewish state should be defending itself

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<v Speaker 2>against barbaric terrorists. He says, the situation in Gaza has

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<v Speaker 2>gone beyond the world world's worst fears. This conflict has

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<v Speaker 2>stolen far too many innocent lives. Tens of thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>civilians are dead, children are starving. Gaza is in the

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<v Speaker 2>grip of a humanitarian catastrophe and Israel's denial of aid

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<v Speaker 2>and the killing of civilians, including children, seeking to access

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<v Speaker 2>water and food, cannot be defended or ignored. Now, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the sort of commentary on the world stage that

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<v Speaker 2>would embolden humus. And isn't it fascinating that it was

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<v Speaker 2>only last week the Prime Minister was whining and dining

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<v Speaker 2>in China, a communist regime that has intimidated US militarily

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<v Speaker 2>and economically, has committed human rights abuses, and is cozying

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<v Speaker 2>up to the dictators of Russia and Iran, and not

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<v Speaker 2>a peep from Anthony Alberizi on any of it. He

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<v Speaker 2>seems to only find his voice when it's convenient, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet is all too happy to alienate our allies. The

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<v Speaker 2>Foreign Minister also reiterated the PM's call.

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<v Speaker 3>The situation in Gaza is beyond the world's worst fears,

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<v Speaker 3>and children are starving, civilians are dying. What is occurring

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<v Speaker 3>in Gaza in relation to the lack of aid and

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<v Speaker 3>children and the deaths of civilians seeking to gain aid

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<v Speaker 3>is indefensible.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let's be very clear, Israel is fighting for its existence.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fighting a war on multiple fronts against Hamas, the hooties,

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<v Speaker 2>hesbla a ran. It's fighting a war it did not start,

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<v Speaker 2>and a war which could end tomorrow if Hermus just

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<v Speaker 2>release the hostages. It's not done that. In fact, her

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<v Speaker 2>Mus even today refused a new cease fire deal by

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<v Speaker 2>Israel and the United States. President Donald Trump's Special envoy,

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Whitkoff, says that Harmas's latest response shows a lack

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<v Speaker 2>of desire to reach a truce. He says, while the

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<v Speaker 2>mediators have made a great effort, Hamas does not appear

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<v Speaker 2>to be coordinated or acting in good faith. We will

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<v Speaker 2>now consider alternative options to bring the hostages home and

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<v Speaker 2>try to create a more stable environment for the people

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<v Speaker 2>of Gaza. He said, it was a shame that Hermas

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<v Speaker 2>has acted in this selfish way, and yet our prime

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<v Speaker 2>minister is blaming Israel, saying we call on Israel to

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<v Speaker 2>comply immediately with its obligations under international law. He wants

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<v Speaker 2>Israel to comply. What about calling for Hermas to comply

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<v Speaker 2>with international law. Hamas is seeking to wipe out Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still holding fifty hostages and who knows how many

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<v Speaker 2>of those are dead or alive, and Albo wants Israel

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<v Speaker 2>to comply. I mean, the PM is pandering so far

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<v Speaker 2>to the left of his party. His moral outrage is

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<v Speaker 2>so entirely misplaced. Her Mus has killed its own Palestinian

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<v Speaker 2>aid workers in Gaza, It's taking control of food trucks

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<v Speaker 2>and has used Palestinians as human shields, all the while Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>along with the US, launched the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation to

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<v Speaker 2>get aid to the Gaza strip. Her Muss is the issue,

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<v Speaker 2>it always has been. And what is the terror group doing?

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<v Speaker 2>What's its subjective? Well, it's taking the aid to fund

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<v Speaker 2>its own terror activities, turning the lives of innocent people

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<v Speaker 2>into a profit making machine. Even as Israel fights for

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<v Speaker 2>its survival on every front, Anthony Alberinezi and Labor again

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<v Speaker 2>seek to demonize it, and much of the media agree,

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<v Speaker 2>constantly distorting the issue and painting Israel as the enemy.

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<v Speaker 2>Labour's dwindling support of israel I fear has now gone,

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<v Speaker 2>as of today, beyond the point of no return. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this government has sunk Solow. Just this week it joined

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight countries condemning Israel and calling for an end

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<v Speaker 2>to the war. And this was a statement which was

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<v Speaker 2>welcomed by Hamas. Anthony Albanesi still has not visited Israel yet,

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<v Speaker 2>He's had the time to jet set around the world

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<v Speaker 2>and to China. When the Foreign Minister went to Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>she refused to watch the footage of the Harmas massacre.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet Anthony Abernezi wants Israel to comply. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Israel is not at war for the sake of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like it's having a good time in the process.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't ask for this war. There are fifty hostages

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<v Speaker 2>still being held by that same terror group that murdered

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<v Speaker 2>twelve hundred Jews and raped and tortured women. All Israel

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<v Speaker 2>wants is its people back from the hands of butchers,

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<v Speaker 2>and all Albo cares about is compliance. While we've been

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<v Speaker 2>told time and time again that green hydrogen is the

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<v Speaker 2>way to get to net zero and that Australia would

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<v Speaker 2>be a key player in the resource despite billions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars of investment, Labour's green hydrogen and energy plans a

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<v Speaker 2>surprise surprise off the rails yet again. I mean, how

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<v Speaker 2>much of our money is being wasted on a source

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<v Speaker 2>which has been an absolute bust up already here in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia and around the world. Green hydrogen is expensive, it

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<v Speaker 2>requires so much energy generation and is unevenly regulated. And

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<v Speaker 2>now we see another nail in the coffin. Today BP

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<v Speaker 2>has pulled the pin on the Australian Renewable Energy Hub

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<v Speaker 2>in WA's Pilbra region, just two years after acquiring a

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<v Speaker 2>forty point five percent stake. Now this is massive and

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps reality is finally setting in because this project would

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<v Speaker 2>have ranked among the largest energy projects globally. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is decision. BP says the hub no longer aligns with

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<v Speaker 2>its strategy. Also this week, Andrew Forres Fortescue pulled the

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<v Speaker 2>pin on two of its most hyped green hydrogen projects.

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<v Speaker 2>One was a one hundred and forty two million dollar

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<v Speaker 2>plant in Gladston in Queensland. The other a nine hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollar hydrogen project in the US state of Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>which Twiggy is now conveniently blaming on Donald Trump's policies.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, really, don't forget Donald Trump said, drill, baby, drill.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't blame him for an energy source which is

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<v Speaker 2>not economically viable. But this just points to another complete

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<v Speaker 2>misinvestment by labor And now it's begging Twiggy for a refund.

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<v Speaker 2>According to The Australian, Labor has made it clear to

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Forrest that it expects to get back the taxpayer

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<v Speaker 2>funds used for its now failed projects look terrific. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>we should absolutely be getting our money back, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>begging for mercy or was this part of the contract

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<v Speaker 2>gonociations by Labor from the beginning that we would indeed

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<v Speaker 2>get a refund if the project failed to get up

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<v Speaker 2>off the ground. There's so many unanswered questions and the

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<v Speaker 2>reality is the best way to make green hydrogen right

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<v Speaker 2>now is from gas. You know, that evil energy source

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<v Speaker 2>that Chris Bowen has spent the past three years demonizing

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<v Speaker 2>until he's recent come to Jesus moment for a gas

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<v Speaker 2>reservation reserve on the East Coast. Yet the Minister in

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<v Speaker 2>charge thinks that everything is just going so swimmingly.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Bowen, letzt with the big picture.

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<v Speaker 2>How is the clean energy transition going? In your view?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's going well. We can always do more

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<v Speaker 4>and there's always more effort needed, and the job is

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<v Speaker 4>far from done. But when you consider what we've achieved

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<v Speaker 4>over the first three years, I would say pleased, but

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<v Speaker 4>not yet satisfied.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going well. Seriously, I have a completely lost count

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<v Speaker 2>of the amount of green energy projects which have either

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<v Speaker 2>been scrapped or delayed around the country in recent months.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got farmers who are suffering as their pristine land

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<v Speaker 2>is being carved up under the net zero fantasy. In Victoria,

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<v Speaker 2>Justin to Allen has proposed a bill to allow transmission

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<v Speaker 2>workers onto private property and fine owners who refuse more

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<v Speaker 2>than twelve thousand dollars. Also that solar and wind generation

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<v Speaker 2>can be connected to the grid. I mean, we need

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand kilometers of high voltage transmission lines as part

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<v Speaker 2>of Labour's renewables transition, but the project is so far

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<v Speaker 2>behind only half of it will be delivered in the

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<v Speaker 2>next decade. And when it comes to green hydrogen, Labor

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<v Speaker 2>is investing billions with no return on investment. The nation's

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<v Speaker 2>largest hydrogen project in Queensland, worth twelve point five billion,

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<v Speaker 2>collapse last month. A plant in South Australia was scrapped

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<v Speaker 2>earlier this year. It follows a lack of progress in

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<v Speaker 2>a near one hundred billion dollar pipeline of proposals in

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<v Speaker 2>the hydrogen sector being championed by Labor. So once again,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going broken backwards, yet apparently the Minister will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you it's all going so well. All right, let's move

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<v Speaker 2>on now to those extraordinary scenes in the Senate yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>when Michalia Cash gave Penny Wong an almighty spray in

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<v Speaker 2>defense of just sent to Nampaginper Price, after the Senator

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<v Speaker 2>spoke out about welcome to Country ceremonies. This is how

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<v Speaker 2>it went down.

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<v Speaker 5>I am absolutely done with the virtue signaling that takes place.

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<v Speaker 5>I am of the belief that it is not necessary

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<v Speaker 5>to have an acknowledgment because we are all Australians.

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<v Speaker 6>Decency and respect cost us nothing, but it goes a

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<v Speaker 6>long way to building a sense of unity. I would

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<v Speaker 6>hope that it would be that the opposition would reflect

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<v Speaker 6>on the words of their own leader in relation to

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<v Speaker 6>welcomes to country.

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<v Speaker 2>I will stand by and respect Senator just sent to

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<v Speaker 2>Nampa jimper Price, who every day has lived and breathed

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<v Speaker 2>reconciliation in this country. Her father is white, her mother

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<v Speaker 2>is black.

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<v Speaker 3>So please don't ever come into this place again and

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<v Speaker 3>pontificate to us.

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<v Speaker 2>And just sent to Nampa jimper Price, the Shadow Minister

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<v Speaker 2>for Defense Industry joins me now from Darwin, So that

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<v Speaker 2>to really appreciate your time. Look, that was a real

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<v Speaker 2>impassioned defense yesterday by your colleague. How do you feel

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<v Speaker 2>about it? I was blown away.

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<v Speaker 5>I just felt very honored that, you know, our leader

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<v Speaker 5>in the Senate is someone who is of conviction and

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<v Speaker 5>who would stand up in such a situation. I think

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<v Speaker 5>that you know, Michaylia, I mean we've all sat there

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<v Speaker 5>and listened to Senator Wong and her pontification over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she talks.

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<v Speaker 5>About decency and respect, but does not really afford that

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<v Speaker 5>decency or respect to Indigenous people if we're conservative, and

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<v Speaker 5>she just thinks that Indigenous people or as she calls

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<v Speaker 5>us First Nations people, should be viewed through the lens

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<v Speaker 5>of leftist ideologues. And so look, I'm very grateful to

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<v Speaker 5>have a leader such as Michaelia who stood up so

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<v Speaker 5>passionately in my defense. You know, I was very heartened.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I guess it represents a bigger narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>And you made those brilliant comments yesterday in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 2>And I will say that Michaulia Cash also made a

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<v Speaker 2>good point about this again today. She said that it

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<v Speaker 2>is the left who keep pushing this welcome to country narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what she said.

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<v Speaker 7>The virtue sigling need to end. The left need to

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<v Speaker 7>understand a person who holds an opinion that is different

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<v Speaker 7>to theirs. In particular, someone like Senator justinjer nmpajimper Price,

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<v Speaker 7>who yes, she does have strongly held views about the

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<v Speaker 7>acknowledgment and the welcome to country issue. Those views are

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<v Speaker 7>based on lived experience each day. Her view is as

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<v Speaker 7>valid as anybody else. Labor and the Greens now run Australia.

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<v Speaker 7>But that does not mean that the quiet Australian's views

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<v Speaker 7>cannot be represented in a respectful manner.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is she right, because it just seems like

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<v Speaker 2>every time this debate is talked about, you get labeled

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<v Speaker 2>a racist, you get labeled a bigot, and the left

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<v Speaker 2>keep pushing this agenda.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, you know, just as

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<v Speaker 5>so the Hansen points it out.

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<v Speaker 2>We held a referendum.

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<v Speaker 5>Sixty percent of Australians don't want this racial division, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>being accused of being racially divisive. But the minute you

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<v Speaker 5>put one group of people on a pedestal or treat

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<v Speaker 5>them differently to everybody else that there is exactly what

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<v Speaker 5>division is, and viewing a group of people on racial

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<v Speaker 5>heritage in a particular way and treating us in that

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<v Speaker 5>way is what I would regard as racist. There are

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<v Speaker 5>many Aboriginal people, people of Aboriginal descent in this country

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<v Speaker 5>who are amongst the quiet Australians and are also very

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<v Speaker 5>over the virtue signaling that it's patronizing to many of

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<v Speaker 5>us that it still continues. I mean, seriously, I could

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<v Speaker 5>be in a room full of people and there's all these.

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<v Speaker 2>Acknowledgments, Well, what are you really acknowledging?

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<v Speaker 5>I might be the only person of indigenous heritage in

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<v Speaker 5>that room, But what does that really mean? It does nothing? Again,

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<v Speaker 5>it does nothing. But all it does is signal, well,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm one of these leftist allies, if you like. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a good little person that tows the line of an

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<v Speaker 5>industry that we know that makes a hell of a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of money out of the misery of the backs

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<v Speaker 5>of those who are largely out of sight, out of mind,

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<v Speaker 5>who couldn't give a damn about any acknowledgments or welcome

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<v Speaker 5>to country or those sorts of things. And it's a reinvention,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a reinvention. It's not traditional culture, which disregards real

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<v Speaker 5>culture traditional culture. And that's the part that I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Is most disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 5>That it's a complete reinvention, but it's being palmed off

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<v Speaker 5>as something that is all wonderful and part of culture.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's always a price tag quite often involved in that.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me ask you, we weren't taking money for any

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<v Speaker 5>kind of cultural activity before there was settlement in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, i'll just see your spot on And even I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed all the new labor MPs when they were making

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<v Speaker 2>their maiden speeches in Parliament. Every single one of them

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<v Speaker 2>got up on the first thing that they did was

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<v Speaker 2>an acknowledgment of country. And you've got to wonder, why

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing it? Do they even know why they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing it? I agree with you. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>so trivialized. I want to ask you. Susan Lee says

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<v Speaker 2>that acknowledgments have a time and a place, and that

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<v Speaker 2>she would still stand in front of the Aboriginal flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Does your sentiment and that of Senate to Cash now

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<v Speaker 2>put you both at odds with the leader of the party. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I mean for me personally, I've always stated that

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<v Speaker 5>I view myself as an Australian, I don't differentiate between

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<v Speaker 5>my mother and my father. I don't like the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that at the opening of Parliament we've got running out

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<v Speaker 5>the front of Parliament the indigenous flag, the Torres strad

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<v Speaker 5>Island flag in the Australian flag.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think on.

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<v Speaker 5>A global scale, we look confused as a country. Are

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<v Speaker 5>we three groups of people? Are we one person? Are

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<v Speaker 5>we one people? In this country? And you know we

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<v Speaker 5>are so diminished in our country. I mean, speaking to

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<v Speaker 5>my defense personnel portfolio, we can't recruit enough people into

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<v Speaker 5>our defense and we can't do that because as a

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<v Speaker 5>toll to feel ashamed of who we are, because of

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<v Speaker 5>our country's history. So you know, how are we supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to grow our defense industry, our personnel to defend our

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<v Speaker 5>country in the event, you know, if we're ever to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be attacked by an adversary.

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<v Speaker 5>I tell you all this welcome to country nonsense means

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely nothing. All these acknowledgments to country means nothing. For

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<v Speaker 5>those who would seek to do us harm, they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>care less about any of that. But we are so

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<v Speaker 5>confused as a country that we wouldn't be able to

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<v Speaker 5>pull together to defend our nation and that is of

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<v Speaker 5>deep concern.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that is the real frightening part about all

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<v Speaker 2>of this. I just want to ask you quickly about defense.

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<v Speaker 2>The UK and Australia have deepened the Orchest Submarine Pact

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<v Speaker 2>with a fifty year treaty sign today, Sanator. What's your

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<v Speaker 2>understanding of what this means for Australia. But also at

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<v Speaker 2>a time of course, when the US is reviewing the agreements.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, look, I mean it's all well and good that

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<v Speaker 5>this is occurring. It's a good step in a direction

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<v Speaker 5>toward ensuring that we secure UCUST, certainly with the UK,

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<v Speaker 5>but again, our Prime Minister has failed to have a

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<v Speaker 5>face to face meeting with one of the world's largest

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<v Speaker 5>global leaders, and as a result, we still don't know

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what our alliance looks like with the US at

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<v Speaker 5>the moment, a long standing alliance. Our experts are telling

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<v Speaker 5>us that we should be working closely, being proactive with

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<v Speaker 5>the US, that we should be issuing a new direction

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<v Speaker 5>statement signaling to the US that is, it would be

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<v Speaker 5>wonderful for them to be here to strengthen our alliance,

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<v Speaker 5>to strengthen AUCUST, to strengthen their presence in Northern Australia,

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<v Speaker 5>with our northern bases, particularly during these geopolitical circumstances that

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<v Speaker 5>we're faced with. I mean, I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 5>Prime Minister is doing, why he keeps dropping this ball,

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<v Speaker 5>But in terms of ourrategic partnership with the US, it

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<v Speaker 5>is well overdue and it's required yesterday, not today, not

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<v Speaker 5>even tomorrow, It's required immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we need. Yeah, absolutely, just sent it. Nampajiper Price,

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<v Speaker 2>good to catch up. Really appreciate your time. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for joining me on the show. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>return now to that statement by Anthony Albanezi on Israel

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<v Speaker 2>demanding it comply with international law, essentially dictating how it

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<v Speaker 2>should defend its own country. Joining me now is Joel

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<v Speaker 2>Bernie from the Australia Israel and Jewish Affairs Council. Joel,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for joining me. What's your reaction to the PM's

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<v Speaker 2>comments today?

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you for having me again, Danica. Well, i'll sum

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<v Speaker 8>it up in a few quick buyer points. Obviously it's disappointing,

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<v Speaker 8>but it's not unexpected and it's been a continuation of

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<v Speaker 8>the policy since essentially October seven of twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 8>so three quick buyer things. The first is is that

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<v Speaker 8>we all know that Thamas is watching. Commented on the

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<v Speaker 8>twenty eight member State statement from Monday congratulated the Australian

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<v Speaker 8>government on its position. So we know that Kamas is watching.

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<v Speaker 8>Kamas is a key and central player in the ending

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<v Speaker 8>of this a humanitarian catastrophe, catastrophe that's in Gaza. We

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<v Speaker 8>cannot deny Hamas's role in this. And I will say,

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<v Speaker 8>as you said in your introduction, this war could have

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<v Speaker 8>come to an end with the putting down of their

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<v Speaker 8>arms and the surrendering of the hostages. It could have

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<v Speaker 8>happened on October the eighth, twenty three, it can happen today.

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<v Speaker 8>So in terms of that, Kamas is in complete control

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<v Speaker 8>as to the end of this conflict. The second thing

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<v Speaker 8>is that's on the micro there is a report of

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<v Speaker 8>food shortages in Gaza, but I have seen clear footage

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<v Speaker 8>from today. A scrum of media went to the border

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<v Speaker 8>with Gaza and saw with their own eyes nine hundred

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<v Speaker 8>and fifty truck loads of aid that has already been

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<v Speaker 8>inspected by the Israelis and is now on the Gaza

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<v Speaker 8>side of the border, ready to be delivered. It is

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<v Speaker 8>not being delivered because the United Nations refuses to deliver it.

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<v Speaker 8>In your introduction you talked about the distribution of aid

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<v Speaker 8>by GHF that has been delivered millions of aid packages

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<v Speaker 8>to those in need in Gaza. The aid is the

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<v Speaker 8>bottleneck of the aid is because of the UN's inability

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<v Speaker 8>and lack of desire to want to spread that aid.

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<v Speaker 8>Now you might say, well, hold on the second, it's

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<v Speaker 8>the Iron Nations. Why would they not be delivering aid?

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<v Speaker 8>And this is the same United Nations that had embedded

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<v Speaker 8>employees that came across the border on October seven, pillage

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<v Speaker 8>raped and murdered. It's the same United Nations that it's

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<v Speaker 8>UNRA command and controls as UNRA headquarters had come US

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<v Speaker 8>command and Control center beneath it. And this is the

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<v Speaker 8>same United Nations that has been perpetuating this conflict since

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<v Speaker 8>nineteen forty eight. So the United Nations and what they

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<v Speaker 8>say is not a stamp of approval to either say that,

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<v Speaker 8>it's fact. Most importantly, the bottleneck of aid that is

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<v Speaker 8>happening in Gaza now is specifically because of the United Nations.

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<v Speaker 8>The third and most important point is on the macro.

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<v Speaker 8>As I said at the start, Harmas is watching. Harmas

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<v Speaker 8>praised the Australian government and other like minded countries on

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<v Speaker 8>Monday for their recent statement. We also know that Harmas

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<v Speaker 8>is responsible for the breakdown of ceasefire talks and was

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<v Speaker 8>called out by the United States buy the categories and

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<v Speaker 8>by the Egyptians because it's a must singular failure to

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<v Speaker 8>agree to the terms of the ceasefire that could bring

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<v Speaker 8>this all to an end. Exact clear statement was not

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<v Speaker 8>present in the Prime Minister's statement today and I think

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<v Speaker 8>that that is a clear mistake and it should have

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<v Speaker 8>been highlighted in his state.

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<v Speaker 2>Well even today. I mean, as I mentioned in that

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<v Speaker 2>introduction that Harmas refused another cease fire deal in the US,

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<v Speaker 2>so that they were being completely selfish in not again

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<v Speaker 2>coming to the table. And this is the exact problem

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<v Speaker 2>it's been Harmas from the beginning. I think Joel that

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<v Speaker 2>this was probably the Prime Minister's strongest condemnation of israeltive date.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that do for our relationship? Is it damage

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<v Speaker 2>beyond repair? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 8>The good thing is on that front, is Danika, is

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<v Speaker 8>that the Israelis have had a very close affinity with

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<v Speaker 8>Australia ever since its establishment. So it's not easily explainable

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<v Speaker 8>in terms of, you know, the normal bilateral elements such

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<v Speaker 8>as trade or shared resources or security situation. The relationship

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 8>between Israel and Australia is far deeper than that. It's

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<v Speaker 8>a friendship. It's a deep and warm relationship where Israelis

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<v Speaker 8>love Australians, they love what Australia means to them, and

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<v Speaker 8>they've always had this very very close affinity with each other.

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<v Speaker 8>Now I think that that affinity is so deep that

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<v Speaker 8>it will last the test of time. Of this current

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<v Speaker 8>impasse between this government and the nets Nahal government. My

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<v Speaker 8>hope is Danika, is that if people are so concerned

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<v Speaker 8>about the humanitarian issues in Gaza, the main operator is

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<v Speaker 8>in the main party that holds the keys to the

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<v Speaker 8>ending this conflict. This commas and with more international pressure,

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<v Speaker 8>including from so called friends like the Australian government, to

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<v Speaker 8>exert pressure on Kamas to agree to the negotiated and

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<v Speaker 8>mediated terms of the ceasefire, it will bring this conflict

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<v Speaker 8>to an end with the aid going in and with

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<v Speaker 8>hopeful that the hopeful suffering of the guards of people's caesars.

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<v Speaker 8>If you have the Prime Minister really wants to end

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<v Speaker 8>this humanitarian crisis. It's emboldened on him to pressure Comas

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<v Speaker 8>to agree to the terms of the Sea Spire that

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<v Speaker 8>will bring this to an end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, spot on, as we keep saying, if this war

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<v Speaker 2>good end tomorrow, if her must just release the hostages,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's yet to do that. Joe Bernie, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>very much for joining me on the show this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciated Ega well. Coming up after the break my panel,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll discuss whether the politicians should be forced to retire

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<v Speaker 2>at sixty. That's next back, let's get into it with

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<v Speaker 2>the panel. Our Johnny v is New South Wales Independent

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<v Speaker 2>MP Tanyamahaler conform in New South Wales Police David Elliott,

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<v Speaker 2>height of both of you. Good to see him. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for joining me.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start in New South Wales because energy

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<v Speaker 2>network distributors are prioritizing the installation of electric vehicle charging

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<v Speaker 2>stations and repairing wind farms over crucial maintenance of the

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 2>state's power wires. Endeavor Essential and Osgrid have been accused

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<v Speaker 2>of seconding workers who are meant to be focusing on

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<v Speaker 2>keeping the lights on in this country to complete compete

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<v Speaker 2>with electrical contracts for work in the green energy space

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<v Speaker 2>despite a massive backlog out this. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this green dream is impacting every single industry now.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, and all these energy providers want to get into it,

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<v Speaker 9>don't they. They want to slash the pie. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>there's money to be made. It doesn't surprise me their

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<v Speaker 9>seconding staff away from much needed upgrading of poles and

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<v Speaker 9>wires to electrical vehicle charging tenders and so forth. And

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<v Speaker 9>you've got a government with Penny Sharp who's both the

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<v Speaker 9>Minister for Energy and Climate Change, where she is entirely

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<v Speaker 9>prior ties the net zero agenda in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 9>on the back of, of course Matt Keane's old blueprint.

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<v Speaker 9>We always going to be you know, corporate sort of

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<v Speaker 9>subsidies and look the taxpayer subsidizing all this, and of

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<v Speaker 9>course poles and wires have taken a back seat, and

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<v Speaker 9>sadly it is all about renewables and.

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<v Speaker 2>Electrical vehicle charges. They put two hundred and sixty million.

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<v Speaker 9>Dollars in the last state budget towards grants and subsidies

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<v Speaker 9>for these charging stations across New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what the people are needing, that's not what.

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<v Speaker 9>They're asking for. They want a reduction in their bills.

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<v Speaker 2>They want a.

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<v Speaker 9>Reliable energy service in New South Wales, which you don't have,

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<v Speaker 9>and instead that's where the money is being redirected. And

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<v Speaker 9>they won't fill any repercussions. These energy providers won't be

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<v Speaker 9>any There will be no repercussions from Penny Sharp because

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<v Speaker 9>that's the gender labor once right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the agenda across the country right now, David. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know tenure raises a good point. Our bills haven't changed.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that's wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a reality. So you can prioritize ev chargers

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<v Speaker 2>and wind farms.

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<v Speaker 10>Nothing's changing absolutely, and we were told that they would change.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, the reality is that a transition in whatever

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<v Speaker 10>formula comes from, whether it's ten percent, ninety fifty to fifty,

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 10>it's not going to happen by twenty thirty. It's not

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 10>going to happen bou twenty forty. It's going to happen

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 10>by twenty Maybe in twenty fifty we might have something

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 10>that resembles what is acceptable today. But there is an

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 10>upper hand. There is a new Southwest Parliamentary inquiry into this.

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 10>At the moment I appeared before it about two weeks ago.

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 10>And they are very concerned that the electricity firms are

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.919
<v Speaker 10>going to be trying to badger themselves into the market

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 10>of just being the sole provider of EV charging stations

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 10>and the like. We want competition, I mean the entire

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 10>business community. I think the entire Australian community will want competition.

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 10>But remember, these guys have have pushed their own product

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 10>to a point where nobody wants to consume it. Therefore

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 10>their profit margins are down. Therefore they have to diversify,

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 10>and they're going to diversify it by trying to get

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 10>some sort of monopoly or duopoly.

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Meanwhile, we're going broken backwards across the country. That's

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 2>the problem. Now. Look, speaking of energy, I want to

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 2>talk about net zero. Liberal leader Susan Lee. She's facing

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 2>growing pressure from within the party to dump the target.

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 2>The Nats, of course, have given an indication they'll walk

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 2>away from the pledge, and now Liberal factions in Wa

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 2>and Queensland are also moving to formally oppose it. How

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>do you see this playing out now, Tanya, Because you've

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 2>got Susan Lee, she's on a listening to us whatever

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 2>that means, whatever that is. You know, she wants to

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>discuss it with the party first, but you've got members

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 2>grumbling underneath the surface. Well, she wants to discuss it

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>with the party.

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 9>I think the overwhelming result of that will be is

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 9>that the members have had a gut full of net zero.

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 9>I think if she's really listening to the members of

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 9>the Liberal Party, they don't want their party pursuing this.

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 5>Why pursue labor light policies?

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I agree, if people.

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 9>Want to, they're going to go to Labor, They're going

0:28:58.320 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 9>to go to the Greens, They're not going to go

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 9>to Liberal Party. Susan Lay has a problem though, because

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 9>I think she's there because of the moderates she's got,

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 9>you know, Toomball whispering in one ear, Matt Keen and

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 9>the other. I don't think she's going to change. I think,

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 9>unfortunately for her and unfortunately for the liber Party, she

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 9>will stay put with net zero despite suggesting that she's listening,

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 9>and I think ultimately there'll be a revolt, be a

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 9>revolt from the membership within the Liberal Party and further

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 9>voter abandonment of the liber Party.

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I agree, instead of coming together and looking at what

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>we can do to help you, the Australian people it's

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 2>once again the folks. It's such an internal focus again, David,

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>But how do you see this playing out as a

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>liberal yourself?

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 10>Well, I think, I mean Susan Lee's has got to acknowledge,

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 10>will acknowledge and should be forced to acknowledge the fact

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 10>that the Labor Party went to the election with net

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 10>zero and they've got elected. So she's going to obviously

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 10>say to her critics that Labor had a mandate, but

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 10>that also forfeits the right because this thing's going to

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 10>go to pastry. We all know it's going to go

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 10>to pastry. So therefore she walks away from the opportunity

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 10>in two three four years time, or particularly in the

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 10>lead up to the next election, as powerble bills continue

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 10>to go up to say I told you, sir, so

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 10>I think you know, unless and if you want some

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 10>product differentiation in Australian politics right now, you do listen

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.719
<v Speaker 10>to your party room, and you do listen to your organization,

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 10>and you do listen to the National Party, and you

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 10>do say, listen that zero twenty thirty is just unrealistic.

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 10>It's not going to work. There is no plan that

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 10>I think is sustainable. So therefore we're going to set

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 10>that aside. But that's not going to say that we're

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 10>going to come We're not going to come up with

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 10>policies that are going to make us good custodians of

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 10>the earth. But at the moment, I think she's going

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 10>to be told that because the Labor Party won it

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 10>with a mandate when the election with this policy, therefore

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 10>they have a mandate. I think she's going to potentially

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 10>deny herself some wonderful hits in about two years time.

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that is a right gay detment. Yeah, I agree,

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 2>complain and I just you know, back off the moderate

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 2>the moderates point there. I just don't think that moderates

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 2>can win government. I mean that's just my personal opinion.

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, look, let's see how this plays out. Now.

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about a very interesting column in

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.719
<v Speaker 2>The Australian from Bernard Salt where he questions whether there

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 2>should be an age limit on our world leaders. He argues,

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>there comes a point in a politician's life cycle where

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>younger blood would be better suited in the role, and

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>that's at about sixty okay, So that means Anthony alb

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and Easy would be probably calling at quits. He's sixty two,

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>whereas other major global players Vladimir Putin's seventy two, Shijing

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Ping seventy two, Trump seventy nine. Well, poor old Joe,

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean eighty two. Well what don't we say about

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden? But Tanya, what do you think age limits sixties? No,

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't agree with that.

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 9>I think some of the best world leaders we've had

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 9>our older. I think you need that level of experience.

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 9>I think you need to have as long as you're

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 9>a stute and you've got your cognitive abilities. Unlike John

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 9>And look at Trump, He's come back second time.

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>It looks incredibly active to me.

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 9>Let's look at Prime Minister Moti seventy five India, as

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 9>you mentioned Putin Yahoo's seventy five. I mean, they're all

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 9>very active leaders and they're playing a huge role globally

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 9>right now. And I think they're intellect what they offer,

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 9>that level of experience, that level understanding not needing to

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 9>be liked, understanding that you've actually got to deliver really

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 9>proper policies and strategies out there.

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Are they doing it? Are they doing it at sixty David?

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 10>No, I mean I think I was on a comeback.

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 10>It depends on your DNA, doesn't It depends on your genes.

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 10>I mean, church will be Hitler at seventy and continued

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 10>to serve as Prime Minister until he was eighty one,

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 10>taking down the Communist Party of Western of Eastern Europe.

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 10>So he was clearly up for the job at into

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 10>his age, his job in the in the age you've

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 10>got popes that are that run the Catholic Church into

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 10>their eighties. I think Ronald Reagan was was obviously a

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 10>very senior man when he was still Prime President of

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.479
<v Speaker 10>the United States. The Queen was still working at ninety

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 10>five or whatever she was, so I think I think

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 10>it's horses for course. I actually think very disappointed in

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 10>Bernon for this, and I like his work, but I

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 10>think it's very shallow to think that at sixty years

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 10>old you have to be put out the past.

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I look, I agree, Sama, Maren.

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 9>Do you remember the Finland prime minister, yes, six, yeah,

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 9>when she was dancy.

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and that's a really young leaders that are just

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 10>complete dribblers.

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Correct, Oh, well that's true. But yeah, I'm thinking that

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>you get to that age where you're like Joe Biden,

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 2>you start talking nonsense, then you've got a problem now,

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 2>really quickly.

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 9>Talking nonsense at thirty.

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Well true, when new studies found kids under thirteen would

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>be happier and healthier for not having a smartphone. We're

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 2>almost out of time. But you're both parents. I'd love

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 2>to get your views on this.

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 9>I'm always for banning smartphones at a young age. I

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 9>think there's so many kids now that are around twenty

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 9>or nineteen and twenty that have had a phone for

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 9>the last eight years that have got a lot of

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 9>damage as a result.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Said they're not sleeping, it's of pausing issues within the family.

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 10>I thought it and fought it, and fought it until

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 10>the last I think my boys got there at fifteen

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 10>or sixteen, and that was only a must. But I

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 10>agree with Tanya, you've got to fight this stuff.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. I think I was about thirteen when

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I got a foe. But it was with the old

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:25.319
<v Speaker 2>noki is, you know, And I didn't do anything but

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>play snake on it. Remember that old game that was

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 2>about it. So if you could make a call, oh

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 2>that's it. I can't believe we can even dial out.

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 2>But you know, phones have changed these days, Tanya Mahlo

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.760
<v Speaker 2>David Elliott. Thank you very much, have a great weekend.

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining me. Coming up after the break more

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 2>on Labour's condemnation of Israel, plus we'll cross to London

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>and get the latest on protests against asylum seekers. That's next.

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Let's return now to the Prime Minister's latest condemnation of Israel.

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>In his strongest statement to date, he said, we call

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 2>on Israel to comply immediately with its obligations under international law.

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 2>And after Australia and the UK joined twenty eight countries

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 2>demanding an immediate end to the war this week, a

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 2>statement which actually received the praise of hermus Here was

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Pennywong and her UK counterpart in Sydney today.

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:23.919
<v Speaker 3>What is occurring in Gaza in relation to the lack

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 3>of aid and children and the deaths of civilians seeking

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 3>to gain aid is indefensible.

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:36.479
<v Speaker 11>The deteriorating situation we've seen in Gaza over the last

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 11>few weeks is indefensible. I repeat my call today for

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 11>a ceasefire.

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Joiningy now is Shadow Cabinet Secretary Andrew Wallace, who's at

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 2>the food and agriculture markets on the Sunshine Coast. Good

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 2>to see Andrew. Thank you so much for joining me. Firstly,

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>what do you make of the Prime Minister's latest statement.

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, Dameika, thanks for having me on.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 12>Look at fundamentally misplaces the fact that Hamas started this

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 12>war in the first instance, and Hamas are refusing to

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 12>lay down their weapons.

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 12>You know, both the United States and Israel this morning

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 12>have walked away from the deal that they had put

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 12>on the table because in the United States terms, Hamas

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 12>are not operating in good faith. They do not want

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.399
<v Speaker 12>to cease fire in the same way that Harmas don't

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 12>want to.

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 2>See a two state solution.

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:37.280
<v Speaker 12>They've consistently for decades stood against a two state solution,

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 12>and yet the rest of the world seems to be

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 12>ramming it down their throats. They don't want it and

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 12>nor do they want to cease fire. So I think

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:50.720
<v Speaker 12>this latest statement by the Prime Minister is misplaced because

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 12>it fails to recognize that Hamas is the problem. Hamas

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 12>are the ones that killed twelve hundred innocent Israelis. They

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 12>took two hundred and fifty hostages, fifty of whom are

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 12>still in captivity, and they seem to be unwilling to

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:12.479
<v Speaker 12>be able to hand them over until their demands are met. Now,

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 12>as far as what is going on in guards are

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 12>at the moment, it is heartbreaking. Anybody with any kind

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 12>of humanity would feel a great sense of sorrow and

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 12>loss when we.

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>See what's going on.

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 12>But what we don't see from the mainstream media is

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 12>talking about how her Musk are keeping the humanitarian supplies

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 12>from Palestinian civilians. They are stealing the humanitarian supplies that

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 12>are being provided and they are either keeping it for

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 12>themselves or selling it to Palestinians at exorbitant prices.

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And that's what you don't hear about. And

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 2>you're right, her mus is the problem, as her mus

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 2>has been the issue from day dot spot on. I

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>want to ask you about any Labour has told mining

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 2>magnate Andrew Forrest it wants taxpayers money back after Fortescue

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 2>pulled the pin on two of its green hydrogen projects.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 2>One was in Gladston and Queensland, the other in the

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 2>US state of Arizona. Andrew, You've got to wonder what

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 2>sort of a deal labor has entered into here. You've

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 2>got failed projects mounting up across the country, but billions

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 2>of taxpayer dollars are being spent on this with no

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>return and now we're begging for a refund.

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 12>Well he really begged his belief, doesn't it. I mean,

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 12>the country and industries seem to be walking away from

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 12>this green hydrogen dream.

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, they all seem to be doing it.

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 12>And now finally the Labor Party are saying, well, you know,

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 12>give us the money back. I hope and pray that

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 12>we do get this money back because at the moment

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 12>it's a windfall.

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>The twiggy forest. Not like he's short of.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 12>A quid, but Australians can't continue to have our taxpayers

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 12>used on is a folly. And you know we should

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 12>get serious about continuing to invest in these pipe dreams

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 12>of Chris Bowen that are absolutely bearing zero fruit.

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Enough's enough, No, I completely agree, Andrew Wallasey. Enjoy the

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>fruit and veg market. It looks good out there. Keep

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.320
<v Speaker 2>warm and you're a great advocate for your community as always.

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Cool.

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>It's cool. I bet, I bet it is, Thanks Andrews.

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 2>See you next time. Well, let's move on now. Counselors

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:33.359
<v Speaker 2>in Eping outside London have unanimously voted for the UK

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 2>government to close down two hotels in the area being

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 2>used to house asylum seekers. Now. Housing these people cost

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 2>the UK taxpayer five point seven million or eleven point

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 2>eight million Aussie dollars a day a day. Would you believe? Now?

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 2>It comes after furious protests outside from locals. Join mey

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 2>now is Spiked Online editor Tom Slater, Tom, thanks for

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.799
<v Speaker 2>joining me. What on earth is actually going on here?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, this is a long running issue which has just

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 13>been brought to boiling points.

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 1>It's about twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 13>This hotel in Epping has been used to house asylum

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 13>see because it's a policy that we've seen across the

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:12.320
<v Speaker 13>country as the small boat's arrivals continue in their tens

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 13>of thousands. But what happened over the past couple of

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 13>weeks was that people just snapped in the area. There

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.280
<v Speaker 13>was an Ethiopian asylum seeker. He was in the country

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 13>for eight days and he managed to clock up three

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 13>sexual offense charges in that time. And this led to

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 13>more protests outside of this particular hotel, many of which,

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 13>it should be said, turned ugly in the evening as

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 13>troublemakers showed up. But I think what people have realized,

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 13>politicians in Epping, politicians in Westminster, journalists in London even

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.879
<v Speaker 13>is that this is clearly not just far right troublemakers

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 13>as they were caricatured, as there.

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Are concerns within the community.

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 13>There are concerns across the country about allowing unvetted men

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 13>to stay in these hotels, and I think this vote

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 13>that we saw in the Council is a reminder of that.

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 13>It stal falls to central government to make this decision.

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 13>But I think the penny is starting to drop that

0:40:58.200 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 13>you cannot go on.

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Like this, and I mean, you don't blame these locals

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 2>for being so fed up. Enough is enough. It's just ridiculous. Now. Look,

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 2>former UK Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn has launched a new

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 2>hard left party, which I'm sure is just what the

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 2>UK needs. But Tom, he's called it your party. What

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 2>a stupid name.

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it's absolutely atrocious.

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 13>They then had to clarify that that's not actually the name,

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 13>that's just the placeholder name or the name on the

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 13>website where they work out what the name is.

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>It's been a bit of a shower, to be perfectly frank.

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 13>I mean, it's incredible that at one point Labor we're

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:33.240
<v Speaker 13>putting this man forward to run the country.

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 1>He can't even pull off.

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 13>A website launch without turning into a complete shambles. As

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 13>you say, we really don't need this, you know, something

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 13>for voters to flock to if they feel that the

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 13>Labor parties insufficiently Israelo phobic. That seems to be essentially

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 13>the cell here. But there is a constituency for it,

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 13>certainly a lot of inner cities, certainly amongst the kind

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 13>of university graduate class who really backed Corbyn.

0:41:58.000 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>When he was Labor leader.

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 13>Not a party that's suddenly going to take power, I

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 13>dare say, but something that could certainly be a problem

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 13>for Labor in terms of eating away at some of

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 13>their vote.

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well that'll be interesting. We'll see what the

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 2>official name is that once they seem to figure it out.

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 2>So I want to ask you about the Royals. Prince

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Harry has reportedly started negotiations with the Royal family to

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 2>make a joint public appearance at the twenty twenty seven

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>in Victor's Games Tom. The event has been touted as

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.399
<v Speaker 2>a possible peace summit. O. Look, I don't know what

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:27.959
<v Speaker 2>do you think.

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 13>This seems like he's been in the works for a while.

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 13>Some of Harry's aides, as well as some of the

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 13>aids from the Palace, meeting in secret for drinks and

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 13>so on. It's clear that Harry wants some kind of

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 13>rap rofmone. He wants some kind of reconciliation, but it's

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 13>always been made impossibly difficult by the fact that he

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 13>left the royal family five years ago, he essentially trying

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 13>to burn the place down on his way out, and

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 13>then his wife accused everyone of being a racist. I

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 13>don't understand why he doesn't see that this might make

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 13>people less likely to want to embrace him, to come

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 13>to his events and so on. So who knows if

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 13>this might happen. One interesting detail is that it seems

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 13>to be prefaced on the idea that Megan will be

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 13>nowhere near the Invictors Games if they're going to appear.

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 13>So if it is a kind of reconciliation, it's a

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 13>pretty tepid one that they seem to be going for.

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, no wonder that they're maybe happy to go

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>through with it if Megan's not there and speaks volumes

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:20.959
<v Speaker 2>of what's actually going on. Tom Slater, good to see

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you as always, Thank you so much for joining me.

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it. Back in a moment with the winners and

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 2>losers of the week, including Labour's juvenile antics on social

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:32.239
<v Speaker 2>media and the ladies from the view sent packing as

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the show is placed on hiatus, Welcome back. It is

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 2>that time of the week where we sought the winners

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 2>from the losers. And helping me to do that as always,

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:47.439
<v Speaker 2>he's the lovely Proubik sway from verb communications rou Here

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>we go again. Now you've got a few winners this week.

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Actually you cram them in Michaulia cash for defending just

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 2>into namperjiper Price we just spoke to actually earlier on

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>in the show, and Barnaby Joyce for his performance on

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Sky News yesterday. We've got to replay it here.

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>It is bulls.

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 12>Bull fight, and you know you stay away from the bulls.

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 2>MVP MVP. I love him, I love him.

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 14>I mean it's just fabulous, Thank goodness. Finally between him

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:23.399
<v Speaker 14>McCormick and Michaulia as well. Where reality is setting in,

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:27.240
<v Speaker 14>we need people who are actually thinkers. These two blokes

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 14>have got zero tolerance for net zero at about time,

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 14>and we all should we know it's a path to

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 14>destruction in Saturday. It is insane. It's Emperor's got no

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 14>clothes stuff. Everybody is accepting it but really knowing that

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 14>it's not right. And then we've got Michaulia, who really

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 14>gave it to that smart ass Penny Wong. You know,

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 14>I mean, God sanktimonious, daigning and daring to talk down

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 14>to and dismiss to send a.

0:44:58.320 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 8>Rice.

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I'm just so glad that we've got some liberals

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 14>with some balls and fortitude and IQ let's hope it

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 14>kicks in.

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I agree, Well done to Machayla Cash. I thought her

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 2>impassion defense was just amazing. And yeah, let's see what

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 2>happens with net zero. I mean, whether or not the

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Liberal party move on that remains to be saved. Now

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 2>look my winner this week. I had to give it

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to women's sport because the US Olympic and Paralympic Committee

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 2>they says that they will comply with Donald Trump's order

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>of course to ban biological men from women's leagues. I mean, hello,

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 2>a couple of has taken an executive order to get here.

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.919
<v Speaker 2>But good on the Olympic and Paralympic Committee for moving

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 2>on this. The question is are we going to move

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 2>on it here? Pro Why are we so far behind

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand today has just moved on it. They're doing

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 2>the same. Sorry, we need to start actually protecting women's

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 2>safety in this country.

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 14>This government, the Labor Party doesn't recognize what a woman

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:55.879
<v Speaker 14>is doing.

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 2>That I don't know what a woman is so.

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 14>I mean, there's a bunch of lemmings and have no brains.

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:05.760
<v Speaker 14>They don't care about the safety of women. Clearly, let's

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 14>hope that you know, something happened, reality hits and they

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 14>do something about it. But it's a great start that

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 14>the US is leading the way, and you know, thank goodness, but.

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't take an executive order.

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:23.399
<v Speaker 14>All of these sporting officials should know that that's their

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.760
<v Speaker 14>duty to protect women the safety of players.

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 2>And you actually lose men as well politically on this,

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot of dads out there who are

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 2>very worried about their little girls being rammed down by

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 2>a biological male playing in a girl's only or women's

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:40.879
<v Speaker 2>only league. So you're not doing them any favors either,

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you're not doing the elector any favors. Now, look, your

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 2>loser this week are the juvenile labor politicians on social media.

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Good grief, it's been a week for them, hasn't it.

0:46:48.920 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Here's some oh why do they do this? They actually

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:12.720
<v Speaker 2>look at themselves.

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 14>Some little twelve year old who's running the social media

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 14>department in Parliament House thinks it's really clever and cute. Actually,

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 14>people on TikTok, you know, younger.

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 2>Kids would see that and think it.

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 4>Was a real turn.

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I love it. You know, I don't know that they would.

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I reckon they would. They think, oh, cool, they're cool,

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 2>they're cool people. But I look at it and I'm like, no,

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 2>you're cringe and you're actually, oh, they're disgusting. And if

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 2>that's the IQ. And we know IQ is not mandatory.

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.319
<v Speaker 14>To be a politician in Australia, we get that well.

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's a lot of very good policy there are.

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's clarify, right, I.

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 14>Want certain in certain parties. Maybe we could say let's labor,

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 14>let's face it so you know, look, keep doing it

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 14>because you're morons.

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 2>You look like morons.

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 14>And maybe if they're spending that time on social media,

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 14>they're not making decisions can impact on our life.

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Look, I completely I agree with you. I saw those

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:05.439
<v Speaker 2>this week and I just roll my eyes. Now, look,

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 2>I had to give my loser to the week to

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 2>the view after the show is going on hiatus.

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 15>And before we go on hiatus, only have one more

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 15>show after this. I'm allowed to say that. Right too

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 15>late now, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, before we go,

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:24.280
<v Speaker 15>I wanted to tell people that the tit is churning,

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 15>the tighter is churning, and things are changing. I mean

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 15>the ultimate irony would be that Rupert Murdoch will take

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:34.439
<v Speaker 15>him down. Yeah, Fox News, who created the monster, will

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 15>take him down.

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, case you've got the gist there. They're blaming Donald Trump,

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 2>of course, so I just like Stephen Colbert, the US

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 2>talk show hosts blamed Trump. Not to mention it was

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 2>bleeding forty million dollars a year from that show and

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 2>it cost one hundred million to produce. But never mind,

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 2>it's always Trump's fault. But goodbye. Enjoy your hiatus. You

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:54.800
<v Speaker 2>deserve it.

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.720
<v Speaker 14>Off you go see thanks, you've been giving us a hiatus, Hernia.

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 14>I think anyway, the views of sheelers, I've got to

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 14>tell you, good Sainara, they won't be back at.

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they'll be back. I mean when you've

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 2>got them making their Trump derangement syndrome comments every week in,

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 2>week out. Please pri McSwain have a good week. Hered

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 2>to again next week. Thanks so much for joining me

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.479
<v Speaker 2>and thank you for your company. I'll be back seven

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 2>pm Sunday Night Stay with us Steve Prices next good night,