Speaker 1: From the skyinging setter. This is Paul Burry Life.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Harry, A little walking wounded that
Speaker 2: you can see. We've got the water, We've got the honey.
Speaker 2: We're trying to hold on, as the Great Man once said,
Speaker 2: just after being shot. Fight, fight, fight, and we'll continue
Speaker 2: to do so. Look, no mucking around tonight.
Speaker 1: It is all killer, no killer. Including two of Albo's duds.
Speaker 1: Look like they're about to walk out the door.
Speaker 2: That'll give him the excuse to reshuffle the deck chairs
Speaker 2: on the political Titanic. Thank goodness, the Secret Service boss
Speaker 2: is gone. But wait till I tell you how again.
Speaker 2: The Deep State's going to try to clip Donald Trump's
Speaker 2: wings and the.
Speaker 1: See if at me you. As each day rolls on,
Speaker 1: there is more.
Speaker 2: Chance that labor MPs are about to find themselves in
Speaker 2: a world of trouble because this union has receipts and it.
Speaker 1: Looks like they're about to put them forward.
Speaker 2: But first, previous reasons, we have been focused on what's
Speaker 2: been happening in the United States and focused on sort
Speaker 2: of some other news that's happened at home. But I
Speaker 2: still want to go back to something that happened on
Speaker 2: the weekend.
Speaker 1: It was a horrific tragedy that took place in Sydney.
Speaker 3: Sydney is reeling from a devastating loss this morning after
Speaker 3: a heroic father and his two year old daughter died
Speaker 3: when they're pram rolled onto train tracks.
Speaker 2: This story just tears everyone's hard apart, but you a
Speaker 2: parent of little kids, grandparents' basic human beings.
Speaker 1: The reaction from the premiere through.
Speaker 2: To the Indian community in Sydney has been utter devastation.
Speaker 4: I just saw the train coming down and then a
Speaker 4: certain bit of screaming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty horrific, but I don't really want to.
Speaker 5: Talk about it.
Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, I'm still upset about it.
Speaker 6: Please timed under the train and rescued one of the children,
Speaker 6: who was thankfully unharmed, and regnited her with the mother.
Speaker 7: I hope over time they can gain some small solace
Speaker 7: knowing that the father died from an extraordinary instinctive active brain.
Speaker 7: That's not going to bring him or his little daughter back,
Speaker 7: but it shouldn't go unremarked upon. In the face of
Speaker 7: a terrible, terrible accident, he gave his own life to
Speaker 7: try and save his children.
Speaker 1: Now, I know, after big stories like this.
Speaker 2: We often say the same thing, but I mean it
Speaker 2: more than ever before, which is about the blink of
Speaker 2: an eye, the difference between life and death, the difference
Speaker 2: between a family going to catch a train, the pram
Speaker 2: getting out of one of their hands, or the lock
Speaker 2: not working on it. We still don't know yet two
Speaker 2: little kids inside the pram, one saved, one not, and
Speaker 2: a father trying to save both, was only able to
Speaker 2: save one. Left behind, of course, is this little girl
Speaker 2: who will grow up without a father and a wife
Speaker 2: whose entire life was connected to him being in Australia.
Speaker 2: He was a skilled worker, they were dependents. And there
Speaker 2: is some conversation that has happened in the past twenty
Speaker 2: four hours which I'm a little bit stunned to see,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's just the process playing out.
Speaker 1: But because his.
Speaker 2: Visa was the only way that they were able to
Speaker 2: stay in Australia, there's a conversation now in an appeal
Speaker 2: to the federal government to make sure that the mother
Speaker 2: and daughter, if they want to, can stay in Australia permanently. Now,
Speaker 2: the family only got here last year, so they may
Speaker 2: want to return back to India and other family. But
Speaker 2: if anyone is in any decision making process, fill out
Speaker 2: the paperwork tonight so they have the option of permanent residency.
Speaker 2: We know that this is a process that again they
Speaker 2: say takes time, but I'm sorry, at least issue some
Speaker 2: sort of a public statement that it's guaranteed that the
Speaker 2: family is going to be able to stick around them
Speaker 2: well under the Daily Telegraph for fow blowing up on
Speaker 2: what would be just a further complicating detail at a
Speaker 2: bloody awful time for the family and their friends. But
Speaker 2: the Minister for Immigration, Andrew Giles, is being urged to
Speaker 2: help a distraught mum they lost her husband and daughter
Speaker 2: in the horror cult and train accident.
Speaker 1: Because she faced the risk of deportation.
Speaker 2: It's understood the Abenezy government is closely considering the plight
Speaker 2: of the woman and the child. Of course, the man
Speaker 2: who died was an IT professional who came to Australia
Speaker 2: just last year October twenty twenty three July twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Their world is completely torn apart. His visa or their
Speaker 2: visa was about to expire on the first of August.
Speaker 2: So whoever's in charge of that stuff, can we just
Speaker 2: sort it out? Sort it out now, and it's not
Speaker 2: a political thing. It's just can I just add my
Speaker 2: voice to everyone else's, including the spectacular Indian community in Australia,
Speaker 2: to make sure that this woman has the option to
Speaker 2: say if she wants and she can have whatever support
Speaker 2: that she needs now. Also, again, traditionally when horrible things
Speaker 2: like this happened, go fundme pages or other fundraising efforts
Speaker 2: kick in because for obvious reasons. Again, if he was
Speaker 2: the reason they came to Australia. Obviously income is connected
Speaker 2: to all of that. But amazingly, the woman at the
Speaker 2: heart of this is telling people please don't donate, don't
Speaker 2: donate to anything that's in their names.
Speaker 1: We had a story about this on scoron Is yesterday that.
Speaker 2: She's just worried about anything online could end up being
Speaker 2: sort of turned into a turned into some sort of
Speaker 2: scam or people will make the horrible opportunity here about
Speaker 2: the scam. So as soon as we hear about a
Speaker 2: way to support this lady, I will make sure that
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 1: Talk about it. But yet again.
Speaker 2: A reminder about how just how lightly we are holding
Speaker 2: on each and every one of us. The way that
Speaker 2: this has impacted me is I've had the conversations. I've
Speaker 2: had even louder conversations with my family about how much
Speaker 2: I love them and my friends. And the other thing too,
Speaker 2: is that when these things happen, or the Trump situation,
Speaker 2: or natural.
Speaker 1: Disasters all the rest of it, don't hold grudges.
Speaker 2: Try to fix up whatever difficulties there are in your
Speaker 2: life right now.
Speaker 1: If you haven't spoken to family members.
Speaker 2: For a while, bury the hatchet, because the reality is
Speaker 2: that again this family thought they were going to catch
Speaker 2: a train.
Speaker 1: Half of it will never come home.
Speaker 2: Strength and love to their family, to the Indian community,
Speaker 2: and to any and everyone who's watching us right now
Speaker 2: having a tough time for whatever reason it may be,
Speaker 2: if you're watching us in hospital, if you're watching us
Speaker 2: when you've come home from hospital, or you're just thinking
Speaker 2: about the person who might be a bit crook at
Speaker 2: the moment. Again, as always, from us, strength and love.
Speaker 2: Now we all remember that one of the great goddesses
Speaker 2: of the Well she thinks that Australia is a racist country.
Speaker 8: We are in a racist, compulent space that we always
Speaker 8: have been at astray depressing. To give a license like
Speaker 8: that I find profoundly depressing and a terrible prospect for
Speaker 8: the next election.
Speaker 2: Well Pole comes out today suggesting that a majority of
Speaker 2: people that have been surveyed do believe that Australia is
Speaker 2: a racist country. A pole of oney forty two people,
Speaker 2: which is part of a big series that's happening in
Speaker 2: the Australian right now. So seventeen percent of people think
Speaker 2: that the word racist describes Australia a lot, fifty five
Speaker 2: percent say that it describes Australia a little bit. Only
Speaker 2: twenty four percent of people feel that racist is not
Speaker 2: a word that describes Australia at all, double the proportion
Speaker 2: in a similar survey from of twelve hundred and three
Speaker 2: people for news Pole for the fiftieth anniversary of the
Speaker 2: Australian newspaper ten years ago. Again, congratulations to Chris Kenny
Speaker 2: and everyone involved in that great documentary celebrating this important
Speaker 2: institution in Australian journalism that's up now at Skytiews dot
Speaker 2: com dot au. But eighty seven percent of people felt
Speaker 2: that racist described Australia a lot or a little. So
Speaker 2: the good news is that there's somewhat of a change here.
Speaker 2: But still I don't understand this and I never do. Oh,
Speaker 2: But that's because you're a white guy, and you're a
Speaker 2: white guy on TV, and you're a white guy on
Speaker 2: scott News primetime. Of course you'd never see it. Is
Speaker 2: their racism in Australia, Yes, But is there racism in Scandinavia, Japan, China,
Speaker 2: New Zealand, you name it.
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Is there potentially even a little bit of racism in Antarctica?
Speaker 2: Probably because that is the sad reality that a section
Speaker 2: of people in any country all over the world view
Speaker 2: things negatively through the prism of race.
Speaker 1: But I strongly.
Speaker 2: Disagree that the word racist describes Australia at all. Our
Speaker 2: laws are absolutely clear on it not being acceptable. Our
Speaker 2: society does not reward in any way, shape or form
Speaker 2: people who are and quite correctly, when any of us
Speaker 2: start to see it, we call it out now each
Speaker 2: and every night and each and every Australia day, in
Speaker 2: every time we've been on the air. I talk, of
Speaker 2: course about the Australian flag behind us, that this is
Speaker 2: not a symbol of white pride, This is not a symbol.
Speaker 1: Of any victory or.
Speaker 2: Anything like that from a couple of hundred years ago.
Speaker 2: It's just the national ensign of a symbol of a
Speaker 2: country of twenty five plus million people who want to
Speaker 2: get along. Will there be some people inevitably who won't?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: But the idea there is something deep in our DNA
Speaker 2: that means when somebody doesn't look like us, what doesn't
Speaker 2: sound like us, or doesn't believe what we believe.
Speaker 1: Then somehow there's a great fear that's out there.
Speaker 2: I just don't believe that's true, because, of course Australia
Speaker 2: is the nation of immigrants. The reality is that all
Speaker 2: of us, to some degree, over a significant period of time,
Speaker 2: have some connection to somewhere else. For some people that
Speaker 2: literally was somewhere else this year, last year, five years ago.
Speaker 2: For some it's their parents, for some it's their grandparents.
Speaker 2: As long as everyone who lives in this country wants
Speaker 2: to abide by the rules, and the rules are democracy
Speaker 2: and implied but not legally clear, freedom of speech and understanding,
Speaker 2: that you can believe in whatever you want or not
Speaker 2: believe in anything, and it does not affect your social standing,
Speaker 2: nor should you be punished in either direction. That you
Speaker 2: can love who you want to love, You can marry
Speaker 2: who you want to marry, You can be mates with
Speaker 2: whoever you want to be so, I strongly disagree, but
Speaker 2: the survey's a survey and we always try to show
Speaker 2: you the data. But also the same report does turn
Speaker 2: around and tell us about migration. Now, remember the politics
Speaker 2: in and around migration is that to talk about too
Speaker 2: many people coming into the country at any one time
Speaker 2: is code for racism. But how many times have we
Speaker 2: said it? How many times have I mentioned it that? No,
Speaker 2: it's a conversation about infrastructure. It's a conversation about our
Speaker 2: city's capacities to have X number of people in it
Speaker 2: at any one time. Now, the reality is, as everyone knows,
Speaker 2: the roads that we currently have are built to the
Speaker 2: standard from twenty or even longer years ago. When four
Speaker 2: lanes would be good, you often end up with two
Speaker 2: or one. If a toll road turns up and you're
Speaker 2: part of Australia, with very minor exceptions, it'll be two
Speaker 2: lanes and then they'll have to shut it down for
Speaker 2: years to try to.
Speaker 1: Push it into three lanes.
Speaker 2: We have a school system that, apart from grossly underperforming
Speaker 2: our kids, is underserving our kids. And we've talked about
Speaker 2: the conditions of those classrooms. We've talked about how hospital
Speaker 2: ramping is an endless problem right around the country, but
Speaker 2: specifically in places where Labour's been in charge for a
Speaker 2: long time, in fact too long. It's the worst it's
Speaker 2: ever been. It's the worst it's ever been in Queensland. Now,
Speaker 2: remember this is a problem because when you call Triple oh,
Speaker 2: the ambulance turns up. The ambulance then goes to the hospital.
Speaker 2: Unless it's literally life and death, then you're going to
Speaker 2: have to probably sit in the back of the hospital
Speaker 2: until there is eventually a bed for you to go
Speaker 2: in the hospital, meaning somebody else who needs to call
Speaker 2: Triple O may not get the ambulance there. That's what
Speaker 2: I talk about when we talk about the number of
Speaker 2: people that come into the country each and every year.
Speaker 2: But of course it's too easy to just pretend, oh no,
Speaker 2: that's all just some sort of coded racism.
Speaker 1: Well again, same pole on this issue.
Speaker 2: Public support for immigration has nearly halved in the past decade.
Speaker 2: The Australians Needs of the Nation pole reveals that only
Speaker 2: thirteen percent of people surveyed support the increase in the
Speaker 2: number of legal immigrants.
Speaker 1: The pole Let's have a look here.
Speaker 2: Says thirty two percent say keep it as it is.
Speaker 2: And remember that's a record highs forty eight percent SA
Speaker 2: drop because it's record highs, just thirteen percent of people,
Speaker 2: let's be honest, probably live in places that aren't about
Speaker 2: to be developed anytime soon. Think teal seats will end
Speaker 2: up or green seats at thirteen percent. In terms of
Speaker 2: the raw number of people coming into the country, let's
Speaker 2: compare this past year to ten years ago. Half a
Speaker 2: million and almost seven hundred thousand. Doesn't take a genius
Speaker 2: to work out that just a couple of years you
Speaker 2: hit a minion. Now you may also have heard today
Speaker 2: there's all these stories around about the number of babies
Speaker 2: that we're currently having in the country.
Speaker 1: Not enough people are having babies.
Speaker 2: So of course the conclusion will be in order to
Speaker 2: grow the tax base, you just keep importing more people,
Speaker 2: more people, more people. Now the political benefit, of course
Speaker 2: is that if they are over the age of eighteen,
Speaker 2: they get to vote straight away. You don't have to
Speaker 2: go through all of that discomfort of having to be
Speaker 2: trained through the school system to vote the right way.
Speaker 1: Well, you end up coming into the country and.
Speaker 2: Before somebody says, oh, there's Paul's that are doing the
Speaker 2: great replacement theory thing, garbage, just talking about logically what
Speaker 2: takes place. So governments love migration because it's more people
Speaker 2: who come in theoretically more people paying tax. That means,
Speaker 2: of course they have more money to spend than ever before.
Speaker 2: And if they're over the age of eighteen, then hopefully
Speaker 2: they vote for the government that let them into the country.
Speaker 1: But of course you can't say that.
Speaker 2: Let's check him in, our old mate, Albert, how's he doing?
Speaker 2: Obviously I've been away for a couple of weeks, but
Speaker 2: time to talk about.
Speaker 1: The greatest prime minister of all time.
Speaker 2: Here he is getting ready for his National spelling Bee.
Speaker 1: Oh he's just like us, is he not awkward at all? Now?
Speaker 2: When Joe Biden decided to pull a pin on his candidacy,
Speaker 2: Albo was on holidays.
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you're.
Speaker 2: The leader of the country or just a lowly TV host, sometimes,
Speaker 2: whether news is big enough, you actually have to go
Speaker 2: bugger where I am. Just get me to the gig.
Speaker 2: It's part of the privilege of doing what I do.
Speaker 2: But it seemed to be a little bit annoying for
Speaker 2: the Prime minister, because God forbid anyone would interrupt his holiday.
Speaker 2: This is what he said in a press conference a
Speaker 2: couple of days ago.
Speaker 9: Well, I've tried to have a couple of days off,
Speaker 9: and here I am at a press conference on Monday.
Speaker 9: Might I say that the acting Prime Minister of Richard
Speaker 9: Barals has been given a bit of an easy time.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, just such a common touch, right, such
Speaker 2: a common touch.
Speaker 1: The bloke with two.
Speaker 2: Taxpayer funded houses, The bloke who's going to get not
Speaker 2: one but two brand new private jets, yes, ordered by
Speaker 2: the previous government, but not canceled by this government. The
Speaker 2: guy who, of course understands your pain when it comes
Speaker 2: to cost of living, yet has plenty of things in
Speaker 2: his government that have made it worse. Well, there's a
Speaker 2: little bit of political news to talk about here that
Speaker 2: press goverments didn't go down very well. Feel free to
Speaker 2: read any of the comments on any of the social
Speaker 2: media things.
Speaker 1: That are around.
Speaker 2: But the number of people who are part of his team,
Speaker 2: part of the people who are sitting around the cabinet
Speaker 2: table as the ministers of the Crown, Well, apparently there
Speaker 2: is about to be a little bit of a change.
Speaker 1: Why there's about to be a reshuffle.
Speaker 2: Why because according to Sydney Morning Herald tonight, there are
Speaker 2: going to be some resignations and dead wood is about
Speaker 2: to go. It is expected that senior labor of Ministers
Speaker 2: Linda Burnie Brendan O'Connor are about to say in the
Speaker 2: next couple of day that they will not be seeking
Speaker 2: re election.
Speaker 1: They even be pulling a Biden.
Speaker 2: Now this is interesting because, of course, remember we don't
Speaker 2: have an election technically until next year. Why would they
Speaker 2: possibly be pulling the pin right now, other than to
Speaker 2: give an opportunity for the Prime Minister.
Speaker 1: To have.
Speaker 2: Everything in place for an election whenever he wants it. Remember,
Speaker 2: he can have it anytime from August all the way
Speaker 2: through to the first part of next year, but with
Speaker 2: an interest rate rise coming on its way, he's unlikely
Speaker 2: to do that sooner rather than later. But the reshuffle
Speaker 2: gives an opportunity for him to get rid of even
Speaker 2: more dodgy deadwood, like, for example, the idiot immigration minister
Speaker 2: Andrew Giles. He should go, Clueless Clear O'Neil, she should go.
Speaker 2: But of course they won't. Factional reasons all the rest
Speaker 2: of it. But can I suggest that for the government
Speaker 2: to actually have some real impact, they should rearrange more
Speaker 2: than just the low level stuff and.
Speaker 1: It won't happen. I know it won't happen because, as
Speaker 1: we know, Jim Chalmers, future.
Speaker 2: Leader of the party, the right wing hope whenever Albow
Speaker 2: eventually decides to go in seven hundred elections time. You know,
Speaker 2: the guy who's going to remake capitalism and has got
Speaker 2: great stories from the.
Speaker 1: Big day out but also investment. You want to talk
Speaker 1: about a minister who's done some damage here.
Speaker 2: Remember what he had to say about the federal budget
Speaker 2: this year that saw the two little too late tax cuts.
Speaker 6: Speak of the number one priority of this government, and
Speaker 6: this budget is helping Australians with the cost of living,
Speaker 6: responsible relief that eases pressure on people and directly reduces inflation.
Speaker 1: Except it hasn't now.
Speaker 2: Remember inflation is calculated every three months, but we get
Speaker 2: a report every month. The Reserve Bank wants it to
Speaker 2: be between two and three percent, but it has now
Speaker 2: gone back up to four percent. So if Jim Chalmers
Speaker 2: is the guy in charge of the economy, but the
Speaker 2: economy is heading in the wrong direction when it comes
Speaker 2: to the very indicies by which the Brazil Bank will
Speaker 2: decide whether to lift or cut interest rates, then perhaps
Speaker 2: he is not as amazing a performer, as the press
Speaker 2: gallery will have you say. Now, of course they'll giggle
Speaker 2: and laugh and oh how dead even suggest it. All
Speaker 2: I'm suggesting is that there should be direct accountability in
Speaker 2: the lead up.
Speaker 1: To the budget. Post the budget, Oh, inflation's going to fall.
Speaker 2: Inflation went up, if the Reserve Bank puts up interest rates, well,
Speaker 2: then the accountability would be that the person who is
Speaker 2: clearly responsible for that should at least be thinking twice
Speaker 2: about whether he keeps the job until Albow eventually goes away.
Speaker 2: For the past couple of weeks, the CFMU has been
Speaker 2: under the pressure of well, their own actions. The CFMEU,
Speaker 2: of course hardcore, the people that are able to stand
Speaker 2: over governments, to be able to say no, no, no,
Speaker 2: The stopgo person should earn two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars because they'll sit outside in the rain.
Speaker 1: Well, of course, sixty minutes in.
Speaker 2: The incredible reporting that they did a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: ago was unbelievable. Now, I hate when people come back
Speaker 2: from holidays and sort of talk about stuff from two
Speaker 2: weeks ago, as if somehow the person filling in for
Speaker 2: them didn't talk about it.
Speaker 1: I'm not about to do that.
Speaker 2: But what I am going to say is that the
Speaker 2: CFMU today has announced its response to implement a code
Speaker 2: of conduct.
Speaker 1: Oh isn't that wonderful.
Speaker 2: They're not going to clear ranks, they're not going to
Speaker 2: sack people, they're not going to shut down.
Speaker 1: They're going to put in a code of conduct.
Speaker 2: Of course, the Prime Minister says, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 2: be very serious about this, very serious, verous.
Speaker 9: My government has acted decisively. We will put administrators in
Speaker 9: because we will ensure that culture changes and we'll make
Speaker 9: sure that anyone with any links is removed from the
Speaker 9: union movement. What we want to do is make sure
Speaker 9: that any corrupt officials are removed.
Speaker 2: And you love anywhere's the bush hat system, Malcolm Turnbull.
Speaker 2: But still it's very marrick feel clean, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: Of course this government well now it's trying to turn around,
Speaker 2: so we're in a clean up the SURFA MEU.
Speaker 1: It's terrible culture, all the rest of it. It actually
Speaker 1: did the bidding of it. You see.
Speaker 2: It has been a colossal fight, a real ideological fight
Speaker 2: between team Red and team Blue about whether or not
Speaker 2: there should be like a standing Royal commission to make
Speaker 2: sure that the poor performance and poor behavior of the
Speaker 2: cfmme you can actually be policed. In the Howard years
Speaker 2: there was the Australian Building and Construction Commission. Then Labor
Speaker 2: of course comes to power and they get rid of
Speaker 2: it because it's holding the CFM you accountable.
Speaker 1: Then in the Abbot years it was brought back.
Speaker 2: And now that Albo is there, of course they do
Speaker 2: the union bidding and they get rid of the.
Speaker 1: Permanent cop on the beat.
Speaker 2: But then there's the other part of this story that
Speaker 2: I have been teasing it for a couple of days,
Speaker 2: but let's get to it. There are clearly a lot
Speaker 2: of people inside the Labour Party who only exist in
Speaker 2: Labor Party because of, in part, the power of the CFMU. Now, yes,
Speaker 2: the CFMAU technically is cleaving itself off from the Labor Party,
Speaker 2: but these people.
Speaker 1: Have been around for a while.
Speaker 2: These people have got pretty deep connections, which means it
Speaker 2: is interesting when things like the Victorian Planning Minister starts
Speaker 2: taking questions this week about what she knew in and
Speaker 2: around it all. Well, of course she's turned around and
Speaker 2: said that the Planning Minister, well, she was actually aware
Speaker 2: of some of the allegations against the same FMEU. So
Speaker 2: she's resigned, right, No, of course not. She just gives
Speaker 2: press conferences because in this age of accountability, when no
Speaker 2: one ever loses their job, even when they are known
Speaker 2: to have failed at their job, like the people who
Speaker 2: have failed to actually report the things that ended up
Speaker 2: turning up in the media and disgracing the organization, and
Speaker 2: only after they have been disgraced in the media they
Speaker 2: come out and say things about the organization.
Speaker 1: They are part of the problem. We call this the
Speaker 1: Harris effect.
Speaker 10: I've referred that match up on at the time, and
Speaker 10: that matter is being dealt with by the Fair Work Commission.
Speaker 10: That matter was referred on. I referred that matter on
Speaker 10: and it's been dealt with by the Fair Work Commission.
Speaker 10: So I referred that matter on. I did not raise
Speaker 10: it personally with just Intail. I've referred that matter on. Okay,
Speaker 10: I did not raise it with Daniel Andrews.
Speaker 1: No one loses their job, do they ever? Wait?
Speaker 2: What does it take for a minister to resign these days?
Speaker 2: The CFM you caught red hand and all the footage,
Speaker 2: all the rest of it. I knew about it, but
Speaker 2: I didn't really say very much. No punishment, nothing happens.
Speaker 2: But as Labour now starts to turn on the cfm you,
Speaker 2: or at least pretend that they are turning on the CFMU.
Speaker 2: The CFME you, who have the receipts of the political
Speaker 2: interactions that they have had with the Labor Party, are
Speaker 2: now threatening will to.
Speaker 1: Show those receipts.
Speaker 2: Let's cet her attention and how the story plays out
Speaker 2: in Sydney where the new Suppas government is being directly
Speaker 2: I would have to say threatened by the CFMAU because
Speaker 2: a letter which the Daily Telegraph got shows that the
Speaker 2: CFMEU boss believes that he's been betrayed by the Premier
Speaker 2: of New South Wales for coming after them. The nusipe's
Speaker 2: government members of parliament will all be outed as talking
Speaker 2: to the CFMAU before they became the government. This is
Speaker 2: the words of the boss of the CFMAU in New
Speaker 2: South Wales. Newsoba's government members of Parliament and ministers prior
Speaker 2: to the election, and many ministers and senior public servants
Speaker 2: are for the elections, no concerns. The CFMU is willing
Speaker 2: to release the names of those individuals to you privately
Speaker 2: or publicly. Labour ministers of Parliament. Members of Parliament have attended,
Speaker 2: at times addressed rallies organized by the same CFMU that
Speaker 2: you now choose to malign without your any due process,
Speaker 2: without any respect for the rule of law, without any
Speaker 2: respect to the right of the presumption of innerc This
Speaker 2: matters because there might well.
Speaker 1: Be a little bit of accountability here. You see.
Speaker 2: While they have been able to successfully get rid of
Speaker 2: the standing Royal Commission into the building sector via the
Speaker 2: Australian Building and Construction Commission that's been built and torn
Speaker 2: down and built again and torn down again depending on
Speaker 2: whether it is a Liberal or Labor government, there is
Speaker 2: one institution the CFMU does not have power over, and
Speaker 2: that is the Independent Commission against Corruption in New South Wales. Now,
Speaker 2: obviously these matters should be potentially heading to many of
Speaker 2: these corruption commissions around the country. But it's a new
Speaker 2: so of Oil's Liberal Party that say that this fairly
Speaker 2: obvious threat, fairly obvious suggestion there may well have been
Speaker 2: some sort of dealings between existing members of the use
Speaker 2: of Wal's government and the Union that they now want
Speaker 2: to pretend that they have nothing.
Speaker 1: To do with. Well, what are those things? What is
Speaker 1: the quid pro quo?
Speaker 2: Politically, the Liberal parties say this thing is going to
Speaker 2: go off to aikak. They say there should be an
Speaker 2: investigation into the CFMMU and given the form of Ikak,
Speaker 2: you would imagine they would at least look into it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Mark Speakman, who is useless but still the opposition leader
Speaker 2: in New South Wales, still has the capacity to punch
Speaker 2: out a letter and you would imagine the standing Royal
Speaker 2: Commission into all matters to do with corruption in New
Speaker 2: South Wales would even have to read a letter that
Speaker 2: comes from him. The Premiership refuses to give up the
Speaker 2: CFM he's tainted money, allows his MPs to remain union members,
Speaker 2: will not establish a Royal Commission, and hasn't reserved The
Speaker 2: Reserve referred the threats.
Speaker 1: To Eykak, so they did it for them. Watch this space.
Speaker 2: Speaking of accountability, remember we towed you last night the
Speaker 2: absurdity of the boss of the Secret Service, who very obviously.
Speaker 1: Should have been sacked.
Speaker 2: Oh no, but there was a game about whether she
Speaker 2: would or wouldn't resign, despite the fact that very obviously,
Speaker 2: when a former president gets shot and the bullet hits him,
Speaker 2: it's game over.
Speaker 1: Get out of the way. See you later.
Speaker 2: Well, surprise, surprise, despite that nonsense that you saw when
Speaker 2: she refused to resign, everyone knew that she was going
Speaker 2: to resign, so she was allowed to resign. She did
Speaker 2: so while you were sleeping last night. But unbelievably, despite
Speaker 2: the fact that this person should have been sacked, old mate,
Speaker 2: Joe decided to write a statement in praise of her
Speaker 2: as she goes out the door. Because I get it,
Speaker 2: he gives no fs anymore, right, but still, Jill and
Speaker 2: I are grateful to the director for decades of public service.
Speaker 2: She has selflessly dedicated and risked her life.
Speaker 1: Blah blah, blah, blah blah.
Speaker 2: Please meantime, guess what the Secret Services having now? As
Speaker 2: it's advice for Donald Trump about how not to get
Speaker 2: shot next time.
Speaker 1: It's not on I will do a better job. It's
Speaker 1: can you stop having the rallies outside?
Speaker 2: Despite the fact that he's had like dozens and dozens
Speaker 2: of dozens feels like hundreds and hundreds of these rallies
Speaker 2: with tens of thousands of people, and no one's taken
Speaker 2: a shot at him until what took place, what not
Speaker 2: even two weeks ago. Clearly they know how to have
Speaker 2: these rallies something went wrong on that day. But now
Speaker 2: they're turning around saying no, you can. Can you stop
Speaker 2: with the outdoor rallies. Apparently part of the advice that
Speaker 2: was leaked to the Washington Post for upcoming events, the
Speaker 2: Trump team is scouting indoor events such as basketball arenas
Speaker 2: and other large spaces where thousands of people can fit
Speaker 2: in people for me with the request said, but you see,
Speaker 2: also what this is about is limiting the crowd sizes,
Speaker 2: because if you limit the crowd sizes to venues that
Speaker 2: where only five thousand people can be well, then when
Speaker 2: Carmela has her rallies and she has them inside, then
Speaker 2: it's equal crowds.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: But I think we both know that even with all
Speaker 2: of the carry on that's happening right now, the Trump
Speaker 2: will always pull a bigger crowd.
Speaker 1: He pulled bigger crowds.
Speaker 2: When he won in sixteen, when he lost in twenty
Speaker 2: and whatever's going on right now in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: But if you go inside, then there'll be no way
Speaker 2: that anyone's going to know just how much support he has,
Speaker 2: which of course will fit with the overall media narratives
Speaker 2: right now that apparently he's absolutely panicked about what's happening
Speaker 2: when it comes to Kamala Harris, which brings me to.
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: Just last year was considered a joke, a joke by
Speaker 2: the left.
Speaker 11: Words have many meanings, and sometimes instead of conveying our meaning,
Speaker 11: they can suggest other meanings.
Speaker 12: When we talk about the children of the community, they
Speaker 12: are a children of the community.
Speaker 11: Well, we are the United States of America, because we
Speaker 11: are united and we are states.
Speaker 13: Talking about the significance of the passage of time, right,
Speaker 13: the significance of the passage of time. So when you
Speaker 13: think about it, there is great significance to the passage
Speaker 13: of time.
Speaker 4: Whatever we have in store cannot be known.
Speaker 11: The past was once the future, the future is, i
Speaker 11: should say unknown.
Speaker 12: We've got to take this stuff seriously as seriously as
Speaker 12: you are, because you have been forced to have to
Speaker 12: take it seriously.
Speaker 14: And the right Hi, I'm over by found you n
Speaker 14: I'm sixteen and a half years old. I'm the speech
Speaker 14: right of calmer hairs. My mom and Betty say, if
Speaker 14: you find a job in of you'll never have to
Speaker 14: work a day in your life.
Speaker 2: But of course, since I pushed the old man president
Speaker 2: out of the way or in this case, very very
Speaker 2: slowly down the stairs. She is the second coming a
Speaker 2: bomber and a skirt and even better Hillary. This is
Speaker 2: now the reaction that the same people who used to
Speaker 2: laugh at her now say about why you have to
Speaker 2: vote for her. I was on the way, I was like,
Speaker 2: I kind of fell in love with her. I thought
Speaker 2: she was smart, engaging, she's funny, feisty, twinkle in your eye,
Speaker 2: punch you in the gut, I mean, everything you kind
Speaker 2: of want.
Speaker 3: And I just thought it was a great, great opening actor.
Speaker 2: And of course they've come up with this new scenario
Speaker 2: that she's so amazing you can't criticize her, But if
Speaker 2: you turn around and criticize her for the things that
Speaker 2: she has said about her job that she has done
Speaker 2: as vice president.
Speaker 1: Like this, can you have any plans to visit the border?
Speaker 12: I'm here in Guatemala today. At some point, you know
Speaker 12: we are going to the border. We've been to the border.
Speaker 12: So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border.
Speaker 12: We've been to the border. We've been to the border.
Speaker 1: You haven't been to the border, and.
Speaker 4: I haven't been to Europe.
Speaker 12: And I don't understand the point that you're making there.
Speaker 1: Is a new way that they will come after you.
Speaker 2: Any criticism or lack of awesome support will be defined.
Speaker 1: As they're running very scared.
Speaker 12: They have nothing else other than racism and sexism.
Speaker 13: And when people do that to black women, that is
Speaker 13: what Banna is talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much more racist you can.
Speaker 2: Be here we go, but there are a few things
Speaker 2: you should know about the second coming. Kamala Harris is
Speaker 2: not amazing at being able to keep people around her,
Speaker 2: despite the fact that she was the number two interesting
Speaker 2: report in the past twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Did you know that ninety.
Speaker 2: Two percent of people that have worked for Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: since she became the vice president have left her office
Speaker 2: and don't work for her anymore. Oh and here's another story,
Speaker 2: because you remember, it's Republicans and Trump people who are
Speaker 2: of course the crazies, the nasties, the threats to democracy. Well,
Speaker 2: I bet you didn't hear this today, but an eighty
Speaker 2: year old man got run over by somebody simply because
Speaker 2: he was a Trump supporter.
Speaker 1: Again, if this had been in reverse, we'd be hearing
Speaker 1: about it right Instead.
Speaker 2: You've literally got to go and find the local news
Speaker 2: on the Internet to find this story.
Speaker 15: The hit and run was at a residence on Anthony's
Speaker 15: Street at roughly five forty five in the afternoon. An
Speaker 15: eighty year old resident was setting up a Donald Trump
Speaker 15: support signs in his yard. According to the police, the
Speaker 15: driver had pulled out the signs and when the resident
Speaker 15: tried to put them back, the driver came back into
Speaker 15: the yard and ran the resident over. The resident is
Speaker 15: now at Portage health and critical condition.
Speaker 2: But of course that's steep fake videos, right, quick break,
Speaker 2: pleading want to talk about looking forward to the debate
Speaker 2: tonight with Joe Hildebrand and with Bromavision.
Speaker 1: You can always send me an email portsgunews dot com
Speaker 1: dot you.
Speaker 2: Thank you to everyone who's already reached out. We've got
Speaker 2: a full house for Newcastle on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Looking forward to these guys in
Speaker 1: the man cave.
Speaker 2: I will keep my distance so nobody gets whatever the
Speaker 2: heck is going on with me right now. The wonderful
Speaker 2: Bromwin Bishop carry out a champ and taking her on
Speaker 2: as always on the behalf of albow, but so much more.
Speaker 5: With love, Yeah love, I'm the other disease.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the woke might no you're not.
Speaker 5: That's our worst problem.
Speaker 2: So let us get to how Albow breaks the funk.
Speaker 2: Because they tried it with the budget didn't work. The
Speaker 2: polls consistently in a scenario where their vote is very
Speaker 2: low thirties or very high twenties, that is worse than
Speaker 2: the last election. I know that they all run around
Speaker 2: say but that the teal is the teals, they save.
Speaker 1: Us from everything. Well again, who knows, but if.
Speaker 2: The freshwater thing's correct that it's fifty one forty nine,
Speaker 2: then maybe some of those tels are going to disappear. However,
Speaker 2: there's apparently about to be a reshuffle. Why because Linda
Speaker 2: Burnie and Brendan O'Connor both will say see you later,
Speaker 2: they'll pull a Biden and they will not recontest. So
Speaker 2: how does our cleary his funk? And I've got to say,
Speaker 2: I don't think reshuffles ever do.
Speaker 16: Ever, Reshuffles make enemies one because the ones who go
Speaker 16: they'll still be sitting in there until the election. Secondly,
Speaker 16: the people who get in, they'll be a bit for themselves.
Speaker 16: But the people who think they should have got in
Speaker 16: and didn't, they'll be really dirty on it. So reshuffles
Speaker 16: never make for happy relationships.
Speaker 4: But here's problem is this.
Speaker 16: You've got Elbow the trot and you've got the snake
Speaker 16: Charmer as the leaders, and under that you've got a
Speaker 16: pretty ordinary front.
Speaker 4: Bench, and then under that you've got a very shallow.
Speaker 16: Pool for which to choose any replacements. So they are
Speaker 16: in a funk and their primary vote is slipping and
Speaker 16: basically at the end of the day, I think the
Speaker 16: baseball bats are starting to come out.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. I've got to after a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks away.
Speaker 2: And again I'm not going to get into one term talk,
Speaker 2: but but I am certainly and look again, itself selecting
Speaker 2: her you end up talking to while playing the Pokey's
Speaker 2: around Australia. But the pokey pole, as I've said before,
Speaker 2: if there is an interest straight rise, then there's no spin.
Speaker 1: There's nowhere and nowhere else to go.
Speaker 2: It's their fault. That's that's my sense of the mood
Speaker 2: right now. So you can rename the new Minister for
Speaker 2: Industrial Relations and you can you know, change the press
Speaker 2: sect whatever. If the fundamental idea is that inflation is
Speaker 2: not being beaten when they said it would be being beaten.
Speaker 2: The too little, too late doesn't actually land well, then
Speaker 2: what exactly is their option to get out of it
Speaker 2: other than Peter Dotton Peter Dotton, Peter Dotton.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that's going to fly either.
Speaker 17: I'm always been very suss on you know, government, governments,
Speaker 17: when they're in government should act like they're in government,
Speaker 17: not act like they're in opposition. So, you know, and
Speaker 17: you lead a positive game. There's a couple of things
Speaker 17: I would say. One is that I'm actually surprised how
Speaker 17: well the government's doing given the amount of pressure that
Speaker 17: people are under. And from what I hear, all I
Speaker 17: hear is why aren't they doing more?
Speaker 5: Why are they.
Speaker 17: Someone said to me the other day, why are they
Speaker 17: even talking about anything else? Why are they talking about
Speaker 17: anything but cost of living? And I completely agree, I
Speaker 17: think they need a circuit breaker. There's the reshuffle is
Speaker 17: not going to be that, and it's not meant to
Speaker 17: be that. It will be very small, be very minor.
Speaker 17: I don't think it's going to be a big problem
Speaker 17: because Giles will be demoted, but it will look like
Speaker 17: he's just been moved.
Speaker 1: He's not going to move ten different ministers.
Speaker 5: You'll move move a couple.
Speaker 17: It'll be ministers that were in the case of O'Connor
Speaker 17: and Linda Burney, who were going anyway, this is widely expected.
Speaker 17: Giles will sort of it'll be a demotion, but they'll
Speaker 17: make it look like moving sideways, and Clara O'Neil will
Speaker 17: also be made to look like she's moving sideways. And
Speaker 17: I think, well, inside the camera bubble, inside the camera bubble,
Speaker 17: they'll go.
Speaker 5: But again, people don't care to.
Speaker 2: Gain in the same way nobody's sitting around, go jeez,
Speaker 2: who's who's the homeless minute?
Speaker 17: This is why, And you're right, the interest rate rise,
Speaker 17: if it happens, could be fatal, which is why I
Speaker 17: still think whether they do it or not, I still
Speaker 17: think their best bet, and a senior sort of labor
Speaker 17: elder statesman was saying this to me just today. Their
Speaker 17: best bet is still to go as long as they
Speaker 17: possibly can. But the interest rate rise if it comes
Speaker 17: as far back in the rearview mirror as possible, so
Speaker 17: that when people do go to the polls, they're thinking
Speaker 17: forward to the next interest rate move, which will be down.
Speaker 1: Hopefully, Right, Warren Hogan, there can be three of them.
Speaker 17: Three of them three Yeah, Well, I mean then you
Speaker 17: might as well, just you know, it's all get it
Speaker 17: will be. It will be minority government, and the question
Speaker 17: will be whether it's minority without the Teals and the Greens.
Speaker 17: Praise Jesus, hopefully that means seventy two seats or whether.
Speaker 1: The news poles right, it's eight seats and you do
Speaker 1: need to get.
Speaker 4: The party could be in minority government.
Speaker 1: That's true, all right.
Speaker 2: Now I want to get to to see if any
Speaker 2: for two reasons. One, they've introduced a code of conduct
Speaker 2: that'll fix that. I mean, this is this is sort
Speaker 2: of like bad boss stuff, right, like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: we know everything's right, but he's a you think of conduct.
Speaker 2: But what I am really fascinated by is that, for
Speaker 2: obvious reasons, regardless of whether the official affiliations all the
Speaker 2: rest of it, right, that the obvious meshing over decades
Speaker 2: between grunt to boss level of the CFMEU and labor
Speaker 2: left politics pretty obvious, right, And the boss in New
Speaker 2: South Wales saying, well, if you're going to throw us
Speaker 2: under the bus, guess what you're coming with me.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk.
Speaker 2: About what you asked me to do at a polling center.
Speaker 2: You were going to tell everyone what you said to
Speaker 2: do when it came.
Speaker 1: To disrupting the last government. Bromwin, what do you think, Well.
Speaker 16: The fact that the matter is god to Conwa is
Speaker 16: just a joke. I mean, nobody's going to buy that.
Speaker 16: But the whole issue is very serious because the Labor
Speaker 16: Party is the political wing of the trade union movement.
Speaker 16: The nexus is there. They select candidates, they decide on policy.
Speaker 16: But more than that, you've now got these allegations that
Speaker 16: are being made with the boasts that well you look
Speaker 16: after us and we've got this.
Speaker 4: Influence with CIBIS.
Speaker 16: Yes, now, this is a very serious allegation to make,
Speaker 16: particularly if you go back through the whole thing. As
Speaker 16: Sebus is the child of the CFMEU construction area. They
Speaker 16: built one Blig Street. Julia Gillard negotiated at least to
Speaker 16: put the whole of the parliamentary officers in there as
Speaker 16: the major tenant, and then said, oh no, it's all
Speaker 16: fine because somebody said, so.
Speaker 4: You've got three cfme you.
Speaker 16: A directors sitting on there, and two hundred and fifty
Speaker 16: thousand dollars in fees were paid to the CFMU on
Speaker 16: be half of those three directs, which.
Speaker 1: Is why there will never be a Royal Commission exactly.
Speaker 16: And Wayne Swan he gets one hundred and ninety nine
Speaker 16: thousand in the year twenty twenty three year.
Speaker 4: But that's paid to him.
Speaker 16: So but it's just all this feeling that it's not right.
Speaker 16: It doesn't past a pub test or any other goddamn tests,
Speaker 16: and there needs to be a proper investry.
Speaker 17: And there's no problem with industry super funds as long
Speaker 17: as the union that is operating them.
Speaker 5: Is it engaging in godgiac But.
Speaker 2: My point is I get where the government's going to
Speaker 2: pretend they're going to do something about it. I get
Speaker 2: why they're not going to do what they should do
Speaker 2: about it. But how nervous would any political organization be
Speaker 2: if the toughest part of it is willing to say,
Speaker 2: if you break up, I'm going to release the photos.
Speaker 17: Well, this is the thing obviously when you're dealing with
Speaker 17: you know, certainly the Construction Division in Victoria, and I
Speaker 17: think it extended to Tasmania and the South Australia recently
Speaker 17: before set could eventually resign.
Speaker 5: They are sort of off the chain. They are rogue.
Speaker 17: There have been that many allegations about them, and even
Speaker 17: the stuff that is sort of on the public record
Speaker 17: that we can see for ourselves shows they're a pretty
Speaker 17: tough bunch of you know.
Speaker 5: Hyper militant borderlong borderline.
Speaker 17: Sort of thuggish individuals involved and and the and SECA
Speaker 17: and Albanezy have a long history and it is not
Speaker 17: a good one. So the idea that Albow is in
Speaker 17: any way in said Albow's law commission, there those sub faction.
Speaker 5: Because of course he's not commissioned. Yeah, correct, But.
Speaker 17: Albo's sub faction of the left is in opposition to
Speaker 17: the one that them is involved with, as we've seen
Speaker 17: also in South Wales where the right wing labor right
Speaker 17: premier Chris Means and said nat see you later, we
Speaker 17: don't want you.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there will be Actually I was going to
Speaker 2: say the receipts will be released them.
Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off. Got to go to a
Speaker 1: break because we're also going to go to Paris.
Speaker 2: And then these guys itching at the bit to talk
Speaker 2: about Trump and Harris.
Speaker 1: But I promise it's not the stuff you've heard. Every smallnessing.
Speaker 10: All right.
Speaker 2: The Olympics opening couple of days time at Australia will
Speaker 2: of course be represented.
Speaker 1: By two flag bearers with the news of whom they are.
Speaker 1: It's Hannah Hola.
Speaker 2: So you will see all over the different places that
Speaker 2: you can see Fox Sports, Fox Sports newsky News, Fox News,
Speaker 2: all the rest for the Fox sports dot com that
Speaker 2: I you her own Twitter feed, Instagram, Hannah lovely to
Speaker 2: see you. We'll just put all the plugs out there.
Speaker 2: Who is carrying the flag?
Speaker 3: All bonjour to you, Paul, so wonderful to chat to
Speaker 3: you this evening. Okay, I'm going to put everyone out
Speaker 3: of their misery. Jess Fox and Eddie Ockenden are officially
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four flag bearers to captain Australia through
Speaker 3: our Paris Olympic Games in just two days time. They
Speaker 3: will be on barges on the river sand that I'm
Speaker 3: standing right next to. But the big announcement, Paul, came
Speaker 3: right here at the Mono d Pirie. It's the mint
Speaker 3: and it is also where the bronze, the silver, and
Speaker 3: the gold medals for the Games have been made. And
Speaker 3: each of the medals have a piece of the Eiffel
Speaker 3: Tower as part of them. So Jess Fox a household name,
Speaker 3: most decorated athlete in canoe slalom. We know that she
Speaker 3: was born in Marseilles. It is somewhat of a homecoming
Speaker 3: for our assie Jess And then we also have Eddie Ockenden,
Speaker 3: who back in two thousand and eight, Paul was the
Speaker 3: youngest cooker Borough to make the Olympic team and play
Speaker 3: at an Olympics, and to think this is his fifth
Speaker 3: Olympic Games and he's the very first cooker Borough to
Speaker 3: notch up such an impressive milestone. Both of them almost
Speaker 3: rendered speechless, but it will become very real for them
Speaker 3: on the barge in a couple of days time.
Speaker 2: Look, look, I don't want to hold you responsible for
Speaker 2: what the Paris organizers are doing here, but if there's
Speaker 2: a piece of the Eiffel Tower, there are three hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty nine medal events, which obviously means times three.
Speaker 2: Which leg did they cut off of the Eiffel Tower?
Speaker 3: Maybe, Paul, that's why all the scaffolding is up and
Speaker 3: we can't actually get anywhere near the Schamp de Mars.
Speaker 3: Breaking news here in Paris. We've cracked the code.
Speaker 1: See this is it, this is it.
Speaker 2: We're across it. Can't wait to see your coverage. We'll
Speaker 2: talk longer and more so through the games. But Hannah
Speaker 2: love you to see you enjoy Paris.
Speaker 1: See you later about it. She's been on the duel LINGO.
Speaker 1: Good to see. Now let's get back to Bromwin and
Speaker 1: Joe Harris. Trump.
Speaker 2: You Bromwin very crisply, and I thought, very cleverly yesterday
Speaker 2: when you were on with Sharry said, Okay, look I
Speaker 2: get it, all the giggles, all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: She's serious, she's real. There's a machine behind her that's real.
Speaker 2: So fight her from day one because she's serious.
Speaker 16: Indeed she is, and she stepped out with an aggressive
Speaker 16: attack which has been repeated everywhere and we'll go on
Speaker 16: being repeated. Nobody knows much about her, so they can
Speaker 16: really invent her as they wish. And all the stuff
Speaker 16: about Biden that people keep saying, he is Yesterday's man, absolutely,
Speaker 16: and he's not fighting Biden.
Speaker 1: He's gone, he's.
Speaker 16: Gone, and this is this is the fight that's on.
Speaker 16: So in my view, Trump has to attack her, but
Speaker 16: it has to be tying her into the policies and
Speaker 16: particularly into that wall, because everybody knows that was the
Speaker 16: job she was tasked to.
Speaker 4: Do and didn't go to the wall and didn't go
Speaker 4: to Europe.
Speaker 2: I think she said, yeah, well, but also this is
Speaker 2: the thing right right right where, and I tried to
Speaker 2: find this today.
Speaker 1: But obviously there's only so many things we can chase
Speaker 1: in any one day.
Speaker 2: Right back, right back at the start, Remember Biden was
Speaker 2: all about it is the Biden Harris administration. I mean
Speaker 2: he said, you know, it was almost a Harris Biden administration.
Speaker 4: Will not be allowed to reign on her parade?
Speaker 1: Oh no, well he's canceled everything.
Speaker 4: We'll be back in the dungeon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not going anywhere now.
Speaker 2: Obviously he makes a speech tomorrow that he should have
Speaker 2: made a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: But apparently I love that.
Speaker 2: Of Course, the reason he didn't was because he had COVID.
Speaker 2: But apparently we hear that the COVID wasn't that bad,
Speaker 2: so therefore there was no capacity to get in front.
Speaker 5: Of him to be living with the disease. Now anyway, yeah,
Speaker 5: what's the whole that's another story. Let's let's not start.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to say I agree with everyone what
Speaker 1: you're thinking about. All right, So Joe, about about Harris.
Speaker 2: Right, obviously you're feeling more confident yet she she's obviously
Speaker 2: a better option than Biden, but it feels like a
Speaker 2: sugar hit, and unless you're filling up on a bag
Speaker 2: of lollies, the sugar hits go away.
Speaker 17: So as I actually just wrapped recording my podcast this afternoon, saying,
Speaker 17: and Harris is doing not much better than Biden.
Speaker 5: She's still behind Trump in every pole.
Speaker 17: Now she's just got up I think by two points naturally.
Speaker 17: And I just saw that pole as soon as I
Speaker 17: soon as I finished recording. That too late to go back.
Speaker 17: But I still I'm sticking to my guns. I still
Speaker 17: just don't see how she gets there first. I don't
Speaker 17: know how she gets there in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Michigan.
Speaker 4: You know the usual copio, won't.
Speaker 2: She I think she's going to pick Mark Kelly because
Speaker 2: of Arizona, the astronaut out of Arizona, whos the is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have no idea who she's going to.
Speaker 4: Pick for Arizona Pennsylvan.
Speaker 17: But I just I just think California Democrats are toxic
Speaker 17: to Midwestern Democrats. I think the people who voted Obama
Speaker 17: and then voted for Trump, they were voting against the
Speaker 17: kind of you know, elite woke identity politics.
Speaker 5: Progress.
Speaker 16: There's another very sure, and that is that the Democrats
Speaker 16: actually have a man problem. It is men who change
Speaker 16: against the Democrats, and she won't get them back.
Speaker 2: And also if you dig into the details, and again
Speaker 2: the great thing about when these poles come out in
Speaker 2: America is they actually release all of the details. It's
Speaker 2: not just sort of the headline in the papers. All
Speaker 2: the detail and you can go in there. And African
Speaker 2: American men have always had an issue with her. Whether
Speaker 2: they continue to move to Trump, all of this statistically
Speaker 2: important we will continue to talk about again. A big
Speaker 2: chat in the car park is coming up, but right
Speaker 2: now get ready for the late DEBATESED tomorrow