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Speaker 1: This is the weekend edition of Fear and Greed, daily

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Speaker 1: business news for people who make their own decisions. Are

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Speaker 1: Michael Thompson and good morning, Sean Aylmer.

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Speaker 2: Ah, Good morning, Michael.

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Speaker 1: Sean. You sound like you're fatigued already.

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Speaker 2: I am fatigued already.

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Speaker 1: But you won't be when the competition starts, because our

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Speaker 1: weekend show is in fact a competition. It is about

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Speaker 1: the two of us, each nominating what we think is

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Speaker 1: the biggest business story of the week, the most remarkable

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Speaker 1: business story, the mystery category, the changes every single week

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Speaker 1: to keep our judge on his toes, and our favorite

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Speaker 1: business story. We are joined, as I said, by a judge,

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Speaker 1: and that judge is our Fear and Greed colleague, Adam Lange.

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Speaker 3: Adam, good morning, Hello Michael, and hello Sean.

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Speaker 2: Hello. I'd just like to say one of my stories

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Speaker 2: today will just prove that you're not much of a judge.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get back.

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Speaker 3: Have you decided already which one it'll be? Or is

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Speaker 3: that open?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no no. This story is a little bit

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Speaker 2: about a real judge, Okay, going to compare in a contrast.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, shots fired early.

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Speaker 2: Grumpy today, we did to go fight up.

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Speaker 1: Remember this, Adam, when you are ruthlessly applying your criteria

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Speaker 1: to Sean. What are you looking for in today's hopefully

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Speaker 1: a better attitude.

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Speaker 4: Topicality, always, timeliness. We want economic impact, Michael, a little

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Speaker 4: bit to my subjective bias, please, And of course one

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Speaker 4: of your strong suits melodrama.

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Speaker 1: Are you saying I don't do the economic impact side

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Speaker 1: of thing?

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Speaker 3: No, you do. It's not a bull's eye every time.

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Speaker 1: Usually it's an afterthought.

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Speaker 3: It's got a better script.

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Speaker 1: And I'll link this back. This matters to the economy,

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Speaker 1: you know, yes, yeah. By the way, anyways, shall we

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Speaker 1: jump on to the biggest story. Let's just get straight

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Speaker 1: into it.

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Speaker 3: Sure, are you right?

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Speaker 1: If I go first? Sean? You gave for it, Michael'll

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Speaker 1: go for it because you do sound a little bit a.

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Speaker 2: Bit myfed today, bit miffed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. It's maybe it's because you have

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Speaker 1: seen the future and have seen the crushing defeat that

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Speaker 1: it is coming for bigger Story of the week, one

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Speaker 1: contender only this week, Adam. The sharp, very sharp collision

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Speaker 1: between Australian politics, our upcoming election, US politics, big farmer,

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Speaker 1: big tech, tariffs, trade wars and something that we hold

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Speaker 1: very dear. Every story I've had this week, Come on,

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Speaker 1: I'm narrowing it down to the collision, the actual moment

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Speaker 1: of which it all came together. Yes, both go on

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Speaker 1: all maybe none, I don't know. It's something also that

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Speaker 1: really kind of headlines this story, something that we hold

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Speaker 1: very dear as Australians, the pharmaceutical benefits scheme. The PBS

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Speaker 1: so backstories this US drug giants for a little while now,

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Speaker 1: it seems have been lobbying Donald Trump, US President, to

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Speaker 1: put a tariff on Australian medical experts, claiming that our PBS,

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Speaker 1: this thing that we love, is an quote egregious and

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Speaker 1: discriminatory program.

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Speaker 2: What would sorry say that again? Egregious and please don't

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Speaker 2: make me say it.

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Speaker 1: I was practicing on the way in here going I

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Speaker 1: found a word I can't say, discriminatory, discriminatory, discriminatory. Which

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Speaker 1: one is it? Tory or tree?

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Speaker 2: True?

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Speaker 3: Well, either one works.

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Speaker 1: But just not what I'm time yeah or forehead you

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Speaker 1: know anyway, it is an egregious and program that discriminates

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Speaker 1: against American companies. It is because our government, the Australian government,

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Speaker 1: subsidizes medications that have been approved by a committee. We

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Speaker 1: all know how this works, right, taking the cost of

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Speaker 1: why are you looking at me like that?

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Speaker 2: I'd like to hear you explain how the PBS work.

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Speaker 1: It takes the cost of potentially life saving medications down

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Speaker 1: from the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars

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Speaker 1: even to an affordable figure thirty one dollars and sixty cents.

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Speaker 1: And that's going to get even cheaper, even cheaper to

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Speaker 1: the federal election, with the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi announcing

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Speaker 1: So it is one of those policies that really it's

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Speaker 2: I reckon. This story is about as boring as the

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Speaker 2: PBS policy. You know what, Sean, come on, pick it up,

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was all context, that was background, But that

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Speaker 2: I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: However, these discussions and these policies and all of this

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Speaker 1: the drug giants. The prime minister, the Australian Prime minister

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Speaker 1: that is, has said that the PBS will not be

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Speaker 1: part of any future tariff negotiations. But Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: being lobbied, and he is not just being lobbied. He

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Speaker 1: is being lobbied big time, big time by big Farmer

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Speaker 1: to introduce tariffs on Australia and at the same time,

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Speaker 1: at the same time, right, we've got Elon Musk and

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump to punish Australia. So I can't deal with

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Speaker 1: this when the two of you are staring at me

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Speaker 1: like that, it's the pressure because you know what it is.

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Speaker 1: It is Sean looking at me and I'm just waiting

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Speaker 1: for him to just pick up something that I said.

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Speaker 2: No, I think this is a big story, right, so

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Speaker 2: you know, if I don't win, I don't win. That's

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Speaker 2: fair enough.

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Speaker 1: The issue with Adam staring at me is whenever he's

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Speaker 1: staring at you, he's not writing anything down, which means

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Speaker 1: he's zoning out. Yeah, he's gone somewhere else altogether singing

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Speaker 1: Ryanstone Cowboy in his head. Anyway, So we've got we've

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Speaker 1: all kind of lobbying for the same thing, basically to

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Speaker 2: Yes, can I ask a question, and this is not

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Speaker 2: downplaying the story very important. Do you think that what

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Speaker 2: the anti trust, well so called anti trust stuff against

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Speaker 1: And I reckon Australia is at real risk here because

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Speaker 1: everyone's at real risk, especially with Australia in terms of

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Speaker 1: about here. It is everything that Donald Trump hates, right.

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Speaker 1: It is a foreign government interfering with business and interfering

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Speaker 1: for a massive, massive tariff showdown with the US. Getting

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Speaker 1: the PBS involved is something that is going to get

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Speaker 1: a heck of a lot of Australians off side this story.

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Speaker 1: Has it all gone on for too long? No, it's

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Speaker 1: just because it is such a comprehensive, big in punch

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Speaker 1: maybe two stories, possibly a third, but really it is

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Speaker 1: the biggest story of the week, Adam. And can you

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Speaker 1: please write down more next time?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Let's get off that story, like I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: have a short story everything. Michael said, great story really

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Speaker 2: is interesting. You know, for months we've been talking about it.

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Speaker 2: It's really been interesting it months and months happened this

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Speaker 2: week this week, it's really what. We got an unemployment

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Speaker 2: thousand job losses, very unusual. We didn't expect that. It

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Speaker 2: And we have been watching Donald Trump from Afar and

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Speaker 2: And no one came out and said, oh, the reserve

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Speaker 2: and this week we're able to refocus on the biggest

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Speaker 1: Today is the first day that I feel that I

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Speaker 3: Talking on today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the first time. Alan, We've been doing the show

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Speaker 4: There we go, but Michael went, he does, So this

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Speaker 4: one tears at me. It's not far apart that the

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Speaker 4: numbers on unemployment four point one, right, but people withdrawing

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Speaker 4: I think that's really interesting. Our productivity levels are shot,

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Speaker 4: so it's a massive story the unemployment figures. But I

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Speaker 4: think this week just how much Donald Trump is affecting

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Speaker 4: Australian politics was made really pertinent again and alban easy

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Speaker 4: and unilaterally across both sides of the House. They're saying,

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Speaker 4: we're not going to accept this all right, so stay

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Speaker 4: out of our pharmaceutical benefits schame. So I think that's

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Speaker 4: actually a massive story it will galvanized Australia.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to complain, but I probably complain if I won.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the mood that you're in at the moment, I

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Speaker 1: feel like it was a universal complaint, just discriminatory, just forget.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just going to nail at this

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Speaker 1: time ago. We can edit that out. It's definitely going

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Speaker 1: to make it in one nil.

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Speaker 2: One nil surprise. That's the most remarkable story.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to go first on this one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Wise Teak Global. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Richard White.

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Speaker 1: I know that this is a fantastic story, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be hard to be, hard to be I

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Speaker 1: will do it though.

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Speaker 2: So what we got this week that's different. We actually

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Speaker 2: got the internal inquiry done by a couple of law

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Speaker 2: firms into Richard White's behavior at wis Tech Global. Now,

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Speaker 2: last year we spent many, many minutes, probably oursscussing Richard

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Speaker 2: Weisse Tech's potential or alleged behavior and these relationships with

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Speaker 2: people in the business and outside the board itself, asked

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Speaker 2: for an independent inquiry into it. What they found out,

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Speaker 2: We really got the partial findings of the board basically

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Speaker 2: said White had made incomplete disclosures concerning the nature and

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Speaker 4: And the reason for this, right is, gold is a

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Speaker 2: What I don't like about today's show m or a

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Speaker 2: If you're ingreed, I have been the judge. Dare I

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Speaker 2: Judgment, it's a it's a dummy spit for Michael. If

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Speaker 2: Michael's blake.

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Speaker 1: He just told me I didn't bring it up, and

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Speaker 3: Insights just keep coming to go firstly, years, Noah, I've

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Speaker 1: I get accused all the time on this program of

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Speaker 1: You haven't this one fair point this one though, I

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Speaker 1: But but you know what we could have called this.

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Speaker 1: It Also it is another big win for BYD as well,

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Speaker 2: That is that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, or Beaten sounds like an early judgment?

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Speaker 2: Do I sound like an early judgment? Doesn't it? Shame

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Speaker 2: you haven't heard me?

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Speaker 1: Spit spit.

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Speaker 2: My story earlier on I suggested that we would be

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Speaker 1: This is perfect.

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Speaker 2: The game changer this week is the Chief Justice of

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Speaker 2: that ruling In brief, the Trump administration had used a

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Speaker 2: wartime law only even been used three times in the

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Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds during some war then or won World War two,

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Speaker 2: arguing that the US was either at war with Venezuelan

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Speaker 2: gangs or being invaded by Venezuelan gangs, so therefore we

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Speaker 2: are allowed to get rid of deport Venezuelan gang members.

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Speaker 2: Went to the judge the judge said, well, hold on,

447
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Speaker 2: do we know that they're Venezuelan gang members? And they said, well,

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Speaker 2: they've got tatoos that look like members more or less broadly,

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Speaker 2: they look like this is an opinion show, they.

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Speaker 3: Look like criminal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's kind of that gist. And so the

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Speaker 2: jar you said, no, no, no, no, turn those planes around.

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Speaker 2: You can't deport them, right, We actually need proof here

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Speaker 2: before we do that. Donald Trump did not like it.

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Speaker 2: He wrote, the judge, like many of the crooked judges

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Speaker 2: I'm forced to appear before, should be impeached. Impeached in caps,

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Speaker 2: of course. He went on to call the judge a

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Speaker 2: radical left lunatic, a troublemaker, and an agitator. Now I

459
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Speaker 2: think we've heard this before, but ba bye bye by

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Speaker 2: the game changer. But have we ever heard the Chief

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Speaker 2: Justice of the US John Roberts saying, mate, pull your

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Speaker 2: head in. Not quite like that. The most Australian judgment ever, right,

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Speaker 2: he said, And I quit John Roberts. For more than

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Speaker 2: two centuries, it's been established that impeachment is not an

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Speaker 2: appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal

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Speaker 2: appellate review process exists for that purpose measured sensible, Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: pull your head in a very big moment. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the separation of powers authority in three branches

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Speaker 2: Legislative basically, Congress makes the laws. Executive, which is a

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Speaker 2: president enforces the law's judicial which interprets the laws. What

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Speaker 2: the fear is is that Donald Trump is trampling on

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Speaker 2: the judicial part of it and not allowing it to

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Speaker 2: do its job. The fact that he intervened this week,

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Speaker 2: and there's lots of in so many cases at the

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Speaker 2: moment in terms of the executive rulings that just seemed

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Speaker 2: to be well allegedly are breaking the law. The fact

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Speaker 2: that he has told Donald Trump, hold on, mate, you're

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Speaker 2: just back off. Hold on mate, I don't think you

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Speaker 2: said that, I said, mister president. Yeah. The fact that

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Speaker 2: he said the president is being not correctly going about

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Speaker 2: the way if he doesn't agree with the judge's ruling,

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Speaker 2: I think is extremely significant because it is the number

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Speaker 2: one legal person in the US standing up for the

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Speaker 2: judicial system. Game changer and a conservative leaning and a

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Speaker 2: conservative leading totally judge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thinking good shouldn't have added that, But I mean

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Speaker 1: it's a good point, isn't it. It's I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is a conservative Supreme Court and he's been there since

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Speaker 1: two thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was going to say decades. I don't quite remember.

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Speaker 1: But he is a conservative Chief Justice, so it has

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Speaker 1: even more weight. It is a game changer, one of

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Speaker 1: both of them.

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Speaker 3: We love each other.

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Speaker 1: It's sick enough.

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Speaker 3: I just I think it's a marvel that b yd

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Speaker 3: can charge in five minutes. So it's incredible.

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Speaker 2: They said in the press conference, it said what about

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Speaker 2: the batteries, will they survive it? And the other one

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Speaker 2: was a danger like fire and stuff like that. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: that's I thought about that.

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Speaker 1: Just charge it outside.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it matters, because the point

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Speaker 2: is that will improve anyway.

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Speaker 3: I was in Regional Victoria this week and going to

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Speaker 3: you know, the stall Gift the race in Stare and

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Speaker 3: there was a yard with ten Tesla chargers and not

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Speaker 3: not one car on them.

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Speaker 4: But I thought, it's great that you know they're there,

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Speaker 4: but we just don't have the adoption yet. Is that

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Speaker 4: tension between how many cars are there, how many charging

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Speaker 4: stations are there, their infrastructure. It is a game changer,

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Speaker 4: you know, having a five minute charge. I think that's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Sean has to wear out there. Yeah, Sean has to

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Speaker 4: win this category. The Chief Justice John Roberts. It's elegant, concise,

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Speaker 4: whack like stay in your lane, mister president. And I

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Speaker 4: thought highly appropriate and what a what a sort of

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Speaker 4: strong mind it is to take on Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: He's not an easy customer. He's aggressive, he's.

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Speaker 1: Very you know that could be the understatement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's.

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Speaker 4: Certainly got a very very loud microphone. So you know

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Speaker 4: the fact that he's done this and stood his ground said, actually,

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Speaker 4: impeachment isn't a process here, only impeach judges. You have

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Speaker 4: an appeal. I thought it was great and hopefully we'll

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Speaker 4: see more people standing up to what is rational responses.

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Speaker 2: Checks and balances. Yeah, that's how democracy works.

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Speaker 1: Two one, Shall we go from there?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Would you like to go from talking about the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court of the US and checks and balances and everything?

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Speaker 1: Give us your favorite story?

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Speaker 2: What I actually thought? There were so many favorites this

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Speaker 2: week that I thought I'm going to give it Adam

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Speaker 2: a choice of favorites, so you can pick the one

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Speaker 2: up that you like. Okay, So now back off, back

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Speaker 2: back back, back back back back. We all know what

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Speaker 2: yours is going to be? Right, Jacks and balances, Checks

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Speaker 2: and balances?

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Speaker 1: Do you like?

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Speaker 2: Do you like the fact that we found out this

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Speaker 2: week that Robin Denholme, the Australian chair of TESLA, ostensibly

543
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Speaker 2: a musk's boss billionaire one point one billion dollars over

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Speaker 2: the last teams.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good?

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Speaker 2: That was pretty good. What about the new five dollar

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Speaker 2: note breaking from tradition dropping a portrait of the Queen

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Speaker 2: or Charles as it may be. You're not going to

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Speaker 2: keep that one? How about? How about how about the

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Speaker 2: one where the US government released tens of thousands of

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Speaker 2: pages about the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy

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Speaker 2: and Julian just to find out Julian. Julian agreed, did it? Don't?

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Speaker 2: Don't give you the punchline after the story. I mean

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Speaker 2: we did the story. He sent me a jake, a

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Speaker 2: JFK conspiracy theorist, dies and arrives in heaven where God

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Speaker 2: is there to receive him. Welcome. God said, you're allowed

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Speaker 2: to ask me one question and I will answer you

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Speaker 2: honestly without hesitating. The conspiracy theorist asks who really shot Kennedy?

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Speaker 2: God replies, Leehavey Oswald shut him from the sixth floor

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Speaker 2: of the Texas school Book Depository. There were no accomplices,

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Speaker 2: He acted alone. I won't actually write the last little bit,

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Speaker 2: but the point being like, however, that's an option. However,

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Speaker 2: my favorite story, which is sort of Michael because it

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Speaker 2: makes Michael giggle. And I don't know why it makes

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Speaker 2: Michael giggle this story, but I do like the story

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Speaker 2: about the Los Angeles County jury who awarded fifty million

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Speaker 2: dollars in damages to a poor feller as in male, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're cringing. The story a gentleman's name Michael Garcia. He

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Speaker 2: was scalded by hot tea from Starbucks, caused severe burns.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it actually caused disfigurement. Now he's essentially an

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Speaker 2: urban driver, third degree burns when the tea the top

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Speaker 2: of the tee, the lid wasn't on properly and was

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Speaker 2: passed through to him through a drive through and it

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Speaker 2: splashed on him. Third degree burns. He's got fifty million dollars. Now,

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Speaker 2: I suppose a point where your cringing and Michael is giggling, is,

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Speaker 2: in fact where the tea landed. I don't know specifically,

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Speaker 2: apart from the say his gentle regions, thank you, which

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Speaker 2: is what the judgment said. Yes, fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: I'm still wincing in gold out of empathy.

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Speaker 2: Fifty million dollars for a scolded Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine giving evidence on that in court?

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Speaker 3: Just please stop.

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Speaker 4: That's my story and we shan't be able to recover

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Speaker 4: for some time.

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Speaker 2: So you can do whichever of those you'd like.

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Speaker 1: You or you could just do the sensible logical thing aside.

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00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: We can we have we have just like a three

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Speaker 2: second break for the listener to think of the stories

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Speaker 2: this week. I wonder which one Michael will do. Just

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Speaker 2: give them as the moment please, Yes, they all got it.

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Speaker 1: Right on the best story, not of the week, not

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Speaker 1: of the month, but easily of the year and an

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Speaker 1: early contender for the decade, The safe return of the

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Speaker 1: astronauts Sonny Williams. This surprise, surprise, I'm doing a space story, Sean,

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Speaker 1: Not just a space story, the space story, the feel

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Speaker 1: good story of the year. They went to the International

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Speaker 1: Space Station on an eight day mission last June, testing

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Speaker 1: out a new Boeing spacecraft, and stayed for a hopping

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Speaker 1: nine months. Nine months on board the International Space Station.

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Speaker 2: What I love most about this here we go now,

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Speaker 2: let me let us, let us answer that. What does

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Speaker 2: Michael love most about this? Space? Space, air travel? Butcher

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Speaker 2: and Sonny just their names are cooled.

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Speaker 1: What I love most about it is the way that

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Speaker 1: they just fully embraced their circumstances. They just fully just said, yep,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. They actually went from being

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Speaker 1: essentially guests there were guests for supposed to be guests

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Speaker 1: on the space station for just a few days, to

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Speaker 1: actually just becoming crew members of the space station for

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Speaker 1: that entire period, to the point that Sonny Williams actually

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Speaker 1: became the commander of the International Space Station for a

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Speaker 1: number of months while she was up there. And so

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Speaker 1: they were doing experiments while they were in space, they

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Speaker 1: did space walks while they were there, were even talking.

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Speaker 1: They did an interview where they were saying that, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's harder on our families than it is on us,

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Speaker 1: because hey, we're in space.

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Speaker 2: How do you have a shower in space?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's not so much a shower as it's a

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Speaker 1: washing process, a cleansing, a space sponge bath, essentially a

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Speaker 1: space sponge bath. Yeah, and that would be entertaining.

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Speaker 3: Are you guessing or do you know?

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Speaker 1: No, Well, it's just a it's a space cleaning process.

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Speaker 2: Nine months without a shower.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, but I mean everyone's pretty clean and they're

626
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Speaker 1: not kind of running around, they're not kind of playing

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Speaker 1: with dirty things. They just clean this up. You know what, Sewan,

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Speaker 1: you are You are derailing me. The fact is that

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Speaker 1: this story has everything. Worts Willmore sixty two years old,

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Speaker 1: Sonny Williams fifty nine years old. They have acknowledged that

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Speaker 1: it is likely going to be their last spaceflight, and

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Speaker 1: hope they had that, like enough months on their passport

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Speaker 1: to actually see them out so they can get back

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Speaker 1: into the US when it's done. If that is their

635
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Speaker 1: last one. What a way to go out though, right.

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Speaker 1: They have written themselves into the history books, rescued in

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Speaker 1: the end by a SpaceX flight, giving Elon Musk a

638
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: much needed win. At the moment, splashing down safely in

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Speaker 1: the Ocean of Florida, there were even dolphins there to

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Speaker 1: greet them. This story has everything.

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00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: It's got Earth, it's got space, space, it's got dolphins. Yeah, yep,

642
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: you have got a whole.

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Speaker 3: Lot earth, wind and fire.

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Speaker 2: That's a better way putting it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely not too much fire on the space station

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Speaker 1: the rocket part. Yes, yes, indeed, it is the feel

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Speaker 1: good story of the year. It is a movie waiting

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Speaker 1: to be made. It is just extraordinary, my story.

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Speaker 2: It's a feel bad story of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam, your judgment, please, Michael has to win.

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00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: I think so, Yeah, I think so. I just this,

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Speaker 3: the scolding and the deep discomfort of that story had

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Speaker 3: to become a favorite. I mean, fifty million dollars would

654
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Speaker 3: go some way to making him feel batter. But you I.

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Speaker 2: Figured the Johnson Adam. I like saying that because Adam

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Speaker 2: responds to it.

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Speaker 1: Fifty million dollars from Starbucks.

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Speaker 3: I reckon.

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Speaker 1: Those astronauts would have made a few Starbucks.

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Speaker 2: Oh dear.

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Speaker 1: Too, I think, Oh God.

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Speaker 2: Better the points.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, it's too too, very very close. Sewan eighty

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Speaker 4: eight points, Michael ninety points.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: We three winners this week, Sonny Williams, Botch Wilmore, Michael Thompson.

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Speaker 1: I've elevated myself to the status of astronaut. Good results,

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Speaker 1: good game, thank you, Wing stories, good ones, huh great,

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Speaker 1: great Native four stories, and you picked up why No.

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Speaker 3: I did love the multiple choice.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just a sneaky way of getting an

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Speaker 1: omnibus story in there, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I do like the JFK stuff that is pretty cool

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Speaker 2: that they have finally all these conspiracy theories. Funny found

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Speaker 2: out that actually what happened was that Lee Harvey Oswald.

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Speaker 1: If you were have you been there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been there too. It's so evocative.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Grassy Knoll and Yah book repository, but

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Speaker 4: you know, you can imagine all these documents redacted and

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Speaker 4: then unredacted.

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Speaker 3: Go, no, it was him.

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Speaker 1: Have you read Dumb by Stephen King eleven twenty two

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Speaker 1: sixty three, No, great book, probably one of his best.

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Speaker 1: He's written something like seventy five or eighty books, so

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Speaker 1: it is one of his best. It's kind of part

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Speaker 1: historical fiction, part kind of Stephen King. It is fantastic,

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Speaker 1: kind of like what would happen if the assassination of

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Speaker 1: JFK was averted?

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Speaker 2: Like, it's just it is awesome.

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Speaker 1: It is very good. Highly recommend it. There we go,

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Speaker 1: good result, good results. If you're a cospiracy theorist, does

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Speaker 1: your life have any meaning after the after these documents

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Speaker 1: were released?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: You find another one.

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Speaker 1: What do you do?

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Speaker 3: Moon landing didn't happen?

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Speaker 2: So was Lee Harvey Oswald from Earth? I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 1: Great point?

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Speaker 3: Was he a mob AGENTI agent?

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Speaker 2: This is what the whole thing about these things actually said.

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Speaker 2: He acted alone? Who nothing like that? But they don't say.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the list of people theories online?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: They are something else all together. Okay, anyway, good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Sean, Thanks Michael, and thank you Adam.

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Speaker 3: Thank you both.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you're following the podcast and join us online

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Speaker 1: on LinkedIn, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and x anywhere anywhere. Were

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Speaker 1: pretty much everywhere. I'm Michael Thompson, and that was fear

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Speaker 1: and greed. Have a great weekend.