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Speaker 1: Tim Jack Adams, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: To the Paul, thanks for the invitation.

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Speaker 1: Pleasure to have you on here.

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Speaker 3: I think we are very aligned in our approach, having

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Speaker 3: having had a good look through your book, energized and

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Speaker 3: having just done a battery check actually with your app.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's going to be lots of violent agreement.

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Speaker 3: But just give our listeners a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: flavor of your background and without I'm not even going

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Speaker 3: to preface it. Just tell them a little bit about

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Speaker 3: your background and how you got to where you are, no,

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Speaker 3: and then we'll jump into.

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Speaker 2: It perfect Paul. So probably a little bit different from

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Speaker 2: most you know on this kind of trail. But I

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Speaker 2: started off in the as a dive master, so back

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Speaker 2: when I was twenty one years old, made you know,

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Speaker 2: I did the world, you know, the well worn track

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Speaker 2: of going overseas, working London, you know, flying around Europe

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Speaker 2: and Asia and living in all sorts of different places.

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Speaker 2: And when I came back to the Gold Coast, I

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Speaker 2: had sort of you know, dreadlocks halfway down my back

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Speaker 2: and if you can imagine that now, probably the best

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Speaker 2: looking I'd ever been, to be honest, mate, And once

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Speaker 2: I cut them off, all the girls left. But when

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Speaker 2: I was twenty one, mate, I actually became a dive

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Speaker 2: master or I was doing my dive master training and

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Speaker 2: this was through Kira Dive on the Gold Coast and

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Speaker 2: I was just an absolute froth monster when it comes

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Speaker 2: to water. My whole life's been spent in the water.

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Speaker 2: And so as I was doing my dive master's course,

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Speaker 2: all the way through, there was two guys that meant

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Speaker 2: a lot to me. One was Rudy, he was a

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Speaker 2: Fijian dive instructor and the other one was Mal and

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Speaker 2: Mail was my skipper. And so the whole way through

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Speaker 2: on learning how to do my coxin's and how to

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Speaker 2: become a dive master. And so these boys pretty much

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Speaker 2: every single day of my life, you know, we'd be

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Speaker 2: hanging out with these gens, having beers, taking people out diving,

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Speaker 2: and you know, life was amazing. Man. That happened for

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Speaker 2: about five five years, and in two thousand and nine

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Speaker 2: I started up a company called Watersports Grea and this

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Speaker 2: was just for my love of the ocean, you know,

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Speaker 2: wanted to take people on great adventures and not just

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Speaker 2: kayaking made anything to really get people to reconnect back

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Speaker 2: to nature, and I took Mal with me. So Mal

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Speaker 2: and I started the snorkel with the turtles, you know,

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Speaker 2: tours and look, to be honest, A, my life was

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Speaker 2: just absolutely pitchure perfect. You know, we'd catch up at

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Speaker 2: we'd go for a beautiful fifteen minute boat ride past Fingle,

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Speaker 2: hanging out with our little inshored bottlenosed dolphins and basically

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Speaker 2: spend the next couple of hours, mate, just hanging out

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Speaker 2: with turtles and whoabie gongs and every now and again

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Speaker 2: we'd see manna rays and Mate, we did this for

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Speaker 2: old conversation and Mate, you know I thought, I honestly

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Speaker 2: thought Mal was one of the happiest blokes over you.

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Speaker 2: And he was about ten years my senior. And you know,

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Speaker 2: you know his two kids were running around Max in

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Speaker 2: Indy and as always, Mate, see tomorrow mail yep, Timbo,

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Speaker 2: see tomorrow same time, same place, and Mate, he took

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Speaker 2: his life that night and really the same place I

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Speaker 2: left him, Mate, the exact same place I left him.

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Speaker 2: And here I was made thinking this, this bloke's the

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Speaker 2: happiest guy that I knew. I just wanted to be

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Speaker 2: just like him. And yeah, it shocked our world. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's all of our friends. No one saw it coming.

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Speaker 2: There was no note and Mate, that was you know,

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Speaker 2: that was probably almost a decade ago now that that happened.

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Speaker 2: And look, I've got five brothers. We're fucking useless at

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Speaker 2: talking about emotional intelligence. It took me till the age

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Speaker 2: got a heart. I didn't know what that thing was

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Speaker 2: me alive. And though you could use it to be

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Speaker 2: empathetic and emotional and all of those things. So there

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Speaker 2: to understand to get guys to open up. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'd had a brother in and out of rehabs for

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Speaker 2: of those glorious days, you know. The crystal clear water

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Speaker 2: was coming in from the Pacific Ocean. People were frolicking

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Speaker 2: and pondering and having fun. And I just got this,

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Speaker 2: this simple question just popped into my head, and it says,

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Speaker 2: why is it when we actively engage in nature do

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Speaker 2: green exercise. So, you know, University of Sussex, you've got

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Speaker 2: Jewels Pretty, doctor Jewels Pretty and his team there. They

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Speaker 2: sent me all of his white paper research. I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: sure it was just him and his mum and me

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Speaker 2: reading it. And I just became fascinated that as it's

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Speaker 2: always the way with white papers.

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Speaker 1: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Now and yeah, mate, this was twelve years ago this started,

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Speaker 2: and I've just been absolutely obsessed Paul since on what

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Speaker 2: happens when we actively engage in nature? How do we

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Speaker 2: measure well being? How do we get blokes to open up?

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Speaker 2: I mean, mate, I think a part of it too was,

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Speaker 2: you know, my wife would say that everything that I'm

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Speaker 2: creating and designing is to heal my wounds. I had

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Speaker 2: an interesting childhood. It was quite traumatic, and I think

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Speaker 2: instead of spending thousands of dollars on psychiologists and all

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Speaker 2: to try and heal myself. And you know, it's at

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Speaker 2: deep down, mate, I think I'm just trying to heal

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Speaker 2: myself and the people that you left this life far

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Speaker 2: too early, and using science and nature and practical implementation

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Speaker 2: has kind of led me on this twelve year journey, which,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, I'd always thought I just see by

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Speaker 2: creak and high pattible, it's my whole life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But and here you are working in the wellness space.

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Speaker 3: Now there's stuff in your book energized that made me

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Speaker 3: set up and take notice, right, statistics, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: read them out.

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Speaker 1: This is out of your book.

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Speaker 3: The following quick statistics provided by Sphinx horrified me. Out

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Speaker 3: of every one hundred Australians by the aids of sixty five,

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Speaker 3: twenty seven will be dead. Sixty eight percent will be yeah,

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Speaker 3: eight percent will be fat, flat broke. Fifty percent will

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Speaker 3: have suffered a relationship breakdown, fifty percent will have suffered

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Speaker 3: That is pretty scurry reading, isn't it for an advanced

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Speaker 1: Is making us sick and diseased. And it's really.

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Speaker 3: Interesting going through your book, like we are so aligned

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Speaker 3: And you've got this quite a cool little concept about

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Speaker 3: your personal battery. And I just did a personal battery

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Speaker 3: assessment before we come on. And you use that metaphor

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Speaker 1: So what when in your life did you realize that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just call it shites cool. Yeah, mate. The

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Speaker 2: first time I think, look, let's just go let's go

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Speaker 2: right back right when. I remember being a kid, and

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Speaker 2: I was a really happy kid, you know, and I

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Speaker 2: was always hugging people. I was always smile and always happy.

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Speaker 2: year old boy, mate, They're nurturing, right, They just want hugs,

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Speaker 2: they just want to play. They you know, they're so vulnerable.

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Speaker 2: And I was like that. And then when my mum married,

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Speaker 2: I you know, learned how to box. I toughened up.

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Speaker 2: I called it an earth angel back then, mate, because

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Speaker 2: somehow she found a heart that was very deep and concrete.

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Speaker 2: And you know, so the battery check for me, and

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Speaker 2: how it came about was because every time I'd ask

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Speaker 2: always be like made good, yep, good, life's great good.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, fuck this, mate, because I've already

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Speaker 2: lost three blokes suicide and they all said they were fine,

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Speaker 2: and how the hell do you get them to open up?

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Speaker 2: So when Mao took his life, we went back to

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Speaker 2: the drawing board. We're already doing you know, these seven

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Speaker 2: tools of Green exercise. But what we'd realized, Paul, is

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Speaker 2: that Mate, no one really knew what the hell well

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Speaker 2: being was, especially as blokes. I actually thought well being

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Speaker 2: was going to a day spar and getting nails done.

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Speaker 2: That's literally what I thought well being was, mate, in

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Speaker 2: my before before I got into this twelve years ago,

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Speaker 2: what I'm missing, he said, Timmy, one of the best

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Speaker 2: I love it. Mate. We are violently agreeable. So and

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Speaker 2: should be living more. And so it's almost like getting

432
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 2: your foot off the excelerator, you see, Mate, we're always

433
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 2: pumping the gas. So the idea is to take the

434
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: shoes off, put them in nature, take the foot off

435
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: the accelerator, and just let them be, Just stop bloody

436
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: doing and just let them be and mate. A great

437
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: example of this is I was doing a gig for Corts.

438
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 2: I took them off to an island in Hong Kong

439
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 2: for three days. There was thirty of their gms that

440
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 2: you know, sort of joined me and I got them

441
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: to I think it was day two. I got them

442
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: to all take their shoes off, and there was a

443
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: lady Mate it was thirty years since she'd actually had

444
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: her bare feet on the ground. Thirty years. Yeah, mate,

445
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: blew my mind, blew my mind. And I was thinking,

446
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 2: and Mate, she was, I swear she tears it up right,

447
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: and she's just like, wow, this is this is what

448
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: it feels like to feel. And I'm always trying to

449
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: get people to feel like you know, everyone asks you

450
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 2: to go do a keynote in a bloody you know,

451
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: stadium or boardrooms and come here, Timmy and come to

452
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: our office. I'm like, no, guys, if you really want

453
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: to create change, you know, if you really want to

454
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 2: think different, if you really want to change things up,

455
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: you come to me. Come into nature. Let's go to

456
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: a mindfulness and the mangroves on a powder board or

457
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 2: sit out the back on a surfboard or or think different,

458
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: feel different, do something different because that's going to get

459
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: you different results. And I just love I love the

460
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: aha moment when people go fuck. I actually think I've

461
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: been missing out on life right because I've been so

462
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: caught up in my head thinking what I thought what

463
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: life was about, which was, you know, the recognition of

464
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: being amazing at work and leading a team. I think

465
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 2: we've sort of forgotten that actually love is the key

466
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: aspect of what life is about. And you know, the

467
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: best love comes from family and friends.

468
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: And the thing I wanted to mention on that is

469
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 3: that a lot of people, I think, confuse relaxation with recovery,

470
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: all right, And I will say to people like sitting

471
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: with your feet up and ale with a bottle of

472
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: wine watching Netflix after a hard days yaka, it's not recovery,

473
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: it's relaxation. Recovery is stuff that dampens down your sympathetic

474
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 3: nervous system and activates your parasympathetic nervous system. The rest,

475
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: digests recover and that earthing, spending times with friends, spending

476
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 3: time and nature has all been shown to massively activate

477
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 3: our parasympathetic nervous system because that's the environment we were

478
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 3: supposed to be in right, and when you dig into

479
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: it and you look at light and sunlight, and actually,

480
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: now the research is showing that light from the sun

481
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: actually has quantum effects on ourselves, which just completely fucking

482
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: spun me out when I got in into the whole

483
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: quantum biology of light.

484
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Speaker 1: Like, as you said, we've been around homosappiens.

485
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: Two hundred thousand years, but you know, two million years

486
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: from our ancestors, all in the natural environment, and now

487
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: we have changed our environment to such an extent that

488
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: we are no longer matched to it.

489
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Speaker 1: So with somebody who's who is you know, maybe listening

490
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Speaker 1: to this and.

491
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Speaker 3: Going, Okay, the hell, I need to do something here,

492
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 3: because there's not much fun in my life. I'm just

493
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: busy all the time. I'm stressed. I'm running the kids

494
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: around in any minute i've got, and then when I

495
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: come back, all I've got is the energy to do

496
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: is just plunk in front of the TV and watch

497
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: a little bit of mindless TV, and that just helps

498
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 3: me to unwind. What would you say to these people, yeah,

499
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 3: and what are some of the concrete steps that they

500
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: could make to start to shift things and increase their

501
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 3: battery levels?

502
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Speaker 2: The first thing I'd say, mate, is work out why

503
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: they're actually living life in the first place. What are

504
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: they're actually doing it all for? And you know, in

505
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: every workshop I do, when we dig into purpose, it

506
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: sounds a little bit fluffy, mate, but I call it

507
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: the rock and anchor. And most of it's done outdoors,

508
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's on a beach and a forest

509
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: or somewhere like that. And what we do, mate, is

510
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: we get people to get out of their heads get

511
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 2: back into their heart through a really beautiful mindfulness breathing session. Right,

512
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: we do a gratitude practice, and that gratitude practice is

513
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: purely thinking about a beautiful memory, right that they've had,

514
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: whether it was last week, last year, a decade ago,

515
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 2: and the memory is something that lights them up right,

516
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: that makes their hearts sing, that brings them absolute joy

517
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: in their life. And what we do, mate, is from

518
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: that memory, right from reliving that. I asked them why

519
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: you do to be the best version of yourself? Like,

520
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: what are you actually doing this all for? And most

521
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: of the time is because you either want to be

522
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: a really good role model right to your kids or

523
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: to someone else you like, you want to be the

524
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: best version of you because you want to live life

525
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: to the best. Everyone has different answers for me right now,

526
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: because I'm a dad, I just want to be the

527
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: best role model I can. Now, you see, the thing

528
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: is right, if I ask a CEO, you know how

529
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: much you're living that purpose. So let's just say they

530
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 2: want to be the best role model for their family,

531
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: they want to spend time with their kids. And then

532
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: I say how much are you living that? And they're

533
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 2: working eighty hours a week, all right? And this is

534
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: where it comes back to getting caught up with the

535
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: things that you think life is about, but it's not

536
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: actually what you want your life to be about. But

537
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: there's so much noise going on in this world and expectations. Actually,

538
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: Paul the number one and you would know this, the

539
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: number one regretted the dying is I wish I lived

540
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: a life true to myself and not the one others

541
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: expected on me. And in those moments when I run

542
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: a purpose workshop, start remembering what their own expectations on

543
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: their own lives is and what they truly want. And

544
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: so when people say that, hey, Timmy, I don't have

545
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: time to look after myself, I'm like, first of all,

546
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you even living for if you

547
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: can't even look after your own well being, Like, what's

548
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: it all for? Mate? If you can't look after yourself.

549
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: Number two, If you can't look after yourself, who's going

550
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: to look after you when you're sick, tired and can't

551
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: get out of bed from chronic fatigue? Because that happens

552
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: a lot, right, And I think that being leaders. And look,

553
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: most of my clients are leaders, and we don't like

554
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: to be helped. We're leaders for a reason because we

555
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: don't like to be told what to do. And we

556
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: feel like we're you know, we're self sufficient, we're reliable,

557
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: we're resilient. Where all of these things right, and then

558
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: one day with they're out of the blue. You know

559
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: you're getting tired, you know you sort of you've lost

560
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: your zest for life, all of a sudden, Mate, you

561
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: just can't get out of bed one day, It doesn't

562
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: matter what you try and do, Mate, you can't get

563
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: out of bed. Right, you're not going into work, you

564
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: can't help your family, and all of a sudden, Mate,

565
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: for the next month or three months or sometimes six months,

566
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: everyone's helping you, Mate, supporting you. And Mate, does that?

567
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: How does that make you feel. And so what I'm

568
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: trying to get people to understand is if we actually

569
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: just reconnect and recharge our batteries each and every day, right,

570
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: we don't go down that path, we actually start thriving sustainably.

571
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: And so what I would say for everyone that is

572
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: time poor, because mate, I get it. I've got three companies,

573
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: I've got two kids under four. I'm fucking really busy too.

574
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 2: But the thing is I prioritize my health and well

575
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: being above everything else. So I've created a life that

576
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: supports me and not one that I'm constantly having to

577
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: support that's constantly draining my batteries. So every single day, mate,

578
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: I combine those seven tools together, a movement, environment, earthing, time, connection, reflection,

579
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: and breath. I call it my rhythm and I basically

580
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: do that. And for me, it's just getting my kids out,

581
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: my labor door, my chocolate labyrid orku. You go, we

582
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: go for a walk around the block for thirty minutes,

583
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: we come back, we connect. There's no technology involved, you know. Lunchtime,

584
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: I'll just sit outside with the team, shoes off on

585
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: the grass, getting that vitamin D, which is the way

586
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: seventy percent vitamin d deficient in this country. And Mate,

587
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when my head hits

588
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: the pillow, I know I've done all the things I

589
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: need to do to recharge my batteries. And it's a

590
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: thirty minute process, Mate, it's plus a little bit for lunch. Now. Mate,

591
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: I've been thriving sustainably with that rhythm for ten years

592
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: now and it works. And the reason why it works

593
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: is because you're fueled by your passion and your purpose.

594
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: You're not fueled by money or anything else. You feel

595
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: by the thing that really lights you up inside. And Mate,

596
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: you can go hard when you're lit up with the

597
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: things inside. And like you said, mate, recovery is not

598
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: sitting in front of Netflix. It's sitting in a bloody

599
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: hammock in between trees and listening to some water. That's

600
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: what recovery is here.

601
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely. It reminded me as you were talking about though.

602
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: There's a famous Zen Cohen and that says that you

603
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: should sit and meditate for twenty minutes a day unless

604
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: you are too.

605
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: Busy, and and you should do it for a love

606
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: that one.

607
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: And but for this to be because I think a

608
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: lot about this, right and I'm very aligned with you

609
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: in my workshops that I do a lot of stuff

610
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: on purpose, and I talk about a tombstone statement like

611
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: what would you like to be written on your tombstone

612
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: about the impact that you had in your little corner

613
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: of the universe.

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00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Right, whether that's kids, family, whatever. Right.

615
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: But for some people to get realigned, it requires some

616
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: really tough decisions, right, because we have to talk about

617
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: money in this I think we have to talk about money.

618
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: And you mentioned it earlier on about living well within

619
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Speaker 3: your means. I mean, the research shows that that money

620
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: can contribute to happiness to a certain point until you're

621
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: out of the poverty line, and then there's the law

622
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: of diminishing returns.

623
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Speaker 1: But then Sanyo Lubernitski has done most of the reach.

624
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: She's a happiness expert, and her research shows that money

625
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: brings you happiness when it's money in the bank, when

626
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: it's savings.

627
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: It's not about your pay packet.

628
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: It's about having money in the bank, which, to your point,

629
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: is about living within your means.

630
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: And from that, some people need to make some really.

631
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: Tough decisions about Okay, Hell, I'm doing a job that's

632
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: earning me good amount of money, and I'm able, but

633
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: I need that because I've got an expensive house and

634
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: cars and holidays and all of that. And sometimes they

635
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: just have to go what needs to give here? Because

636
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: a lot of people say I can't do anything about it. Well,

637
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: fucking yes, you can do something about it. We have

638
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: the biggest houses in the world in Australia, right, and

639
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: it doesn't need to be that way. I know people

640
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: who have completely changed their jobs and downsized their house

641
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: and are so much happier.

642
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: And it's not for a lot of people. It's not

643
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: an easy thing. But I think that purpose thing is

644
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: so so critical because if.

645
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: You don't think about, hey, why am I here? Why

646
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: am I existing? What is the purpose in all of this?

647
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: If you don't really really think about that and get

648
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: clear on that, then those decisions are going to be

649
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: too hard to me.

650
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: Can you just going to procrastinate? Right?

651
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I think, mate, what you're saying is what

652
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: is it that needs to give? And this is the

653
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: answer that now on especially blokes don't want to hear.

654
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: It's your ego, you know, That's that's what needs do

655
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: because mate, we all we all want to compare, right,

656
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: And look, I think I think whoever is in that

657
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: universe that you know. Back in two thousand and eight,

658
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: Gary Martin said to me, mate, live well within your means,

659
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: because look, we you know, we've got I remember buying

660
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: my little you know, my little shack. B God, it

661
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: was twelve years ago. Now is a two bedroom shack,

662
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: and you know we've had to renovate it now because

663
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: we've got two kids. And I went to the bank

664
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: and you know, I said, right, how much can I

665
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: borrow you guys, I'm I'm going to rip down and rebuild.

666
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: And I said, Timmy, we'll give you this much. And

667
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: I said, right, I'll take half. Because I knew that

668
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: if I went to the full extent, mate, I knew

669
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: that I would have to work my ass off to

670
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: pay that mortgage off. And so I decided to build

671
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: a house that was half the size of what I

672
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: could have afforded. But what that allows me to do

673
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: is that and I will put it this way, mate,

674
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: because I think this is a really good way of

675
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: doing it. Right now, I can work forty hours a week, right,

676
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: which allows me, you know, after all the things that

677
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: you do in your life, which is cleaning the house

678
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: and maintenance work and your chores and responsibilities that allows

679
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: me twenty hours of free time a week. Now, with

680
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: those twenty hours of free time a week, I do

681
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: things that reconnect me to myself, others, and nature, right,

682
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: and that's typically hanging out with friends and family doing

683
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: the things that I love. Now, if I went and

684
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: got a bigger mortgage, it probably would have taken up

685
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: another ten hours of my week. So now I'm up

686
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: to fifty hours, which now only leaves me ten hours

687
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: spare to reconnect to myself and others through nature, right,

688
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: the things that really light me up. Now, let's just say,

689
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: I go, oh, I'm not too happy with my prato

690
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: out the front. Maybe I need a one hundred and

691
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars land cruiser. So I go and do that,

692
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: and then you know what, maybe I'm going to go

693
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: on a really amazing snow trip this year. All of

694
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: a sudden, Mate, I'm working sixty hours a week, right,

695
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: And what happens is that twenty hours that I had

696
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 2: is now zero hours. And so I've gone from living

697
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: well within my means and having twenty hours to do

698
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: the things that I love and keep the connections that

699
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: matter most to me, which is my family, because the

700
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: last thing I want to do is get a divorce, right.

701
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: And I still live in a beautiful house, I still

702
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: drive a nice comfortable car, and I don't stress out

703
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: about the money because I know, mate, it's there if

704
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 2: I need it, And I'm doing all the things that

705
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: light me up. And I think, mate, this I got

706
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: to tell you the story made because that happened really recently, Paul,

707
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: and this is what drove the nail home for me.

708
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: I was pad of boarding with a couple. There were

709
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: probably late fifties. He was a you know, a businessman,

710
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: a CEO worth of absolute fortune, and his wife and anyway,

711
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: he gone off and he was looking at some birds

712
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: and well paddling on Kingsliff Creek. And the wife turns

713
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: to me and she goes, hey, Timmy. She goes, mate,

714
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if he knows this,

715
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: but you know, we're going to get a divorce soon.

716
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, mate, okay, look, we're

717
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: going to talk about it. She goes, but I don't

718
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: know if he knows this, but he's also going to

719
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: lose fifty million dollars when it happens. And I was like, fuck,

720
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: I was like, and I was like, just tell me,

721
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: what's the reason she goes. Look, I've been trying to

722
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: get my husband to work ten hours less, you know,

723
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: a week for the last ten years. We have family,

724
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: you know, the boys are almost left home by now,

725
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: and for the last ten years, he he won't just

726
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: work sixty as a week. He just wants to keep

727
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: working seventy. He wants to build a fortune. And I

728
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: know why he's doing it's because he wants to provide

729
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: for us. But at the same time, Timmy, he's literally

730
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: going to lose fifty million dollars and his family and

731
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: I just don't I don't know if he really registers that.

732
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: And then the first thing that flicked in my mind

733
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: was thinking, well, maybe he does and he doesn't care.

734
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: But also, Mate, this is the thing. I think we

735
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: spend so much time building our fortunes right that we

736
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: forget that what we're not building up is the relationships

737
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: that are closest to us. And Mate, if if we

738
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: lose that connection with our wife, our partner, whoever it is,

739
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: and they take off, Mate, Like, that's seventy percent of

740
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: your fortune gone down the drain.

741
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: And I think this is there's a really important two

742
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: points here. I interviewed Richard Laird. Professor Richard Laird on

743
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: the podcast who is the greatest well being researcher on

744
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: the feace of the planet right and has done You

745
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: should get him on Actually he would be in is

746
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: either in his seventies or is he eighties?

747
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: Happy to jump on.

748
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: Podcasts like He produces the reports for the United Nations

749
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: and the World Happiness Index stuff like that, So he,

750
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: more than anybody, has researched happy well what he called

751
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: subjective well being, because happiness is a friggin emotion and

752
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: it's a fleeting emotion, so subjective wellbeing. And his thing

753
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: was the biggest thing in subjective wellbeing is the quality

754
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: of your relationships, full stop. Not the amount of money

755
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: that you have, not the job you have, none of

756
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: those sorts of things. It is the quality of your relationships.

757
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: And loneliness.

758
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: If you're lonely, it's and you probably know this, it's

759
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: as bad for your health as smoking twenty cigarettes a week.

760
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: But and particularly I think we need to highlight this

761
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: to the blokes because when divorces happen, what happens, blokes

762
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: tend to fer worse than females because a lot of them,

763
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: not everybody, and this this dynamic is notice changing slightly,

764
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 3: but a lot of them are so focused on growing

765
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 3: their career that most of the friendships are driven by

766
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: the wife right through taker and through mothers groups, and

767
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: then you know, the fathers then sort of hang out

768
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: whenever they come together. And then when there's a divorce,

769
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: the woman tends to maintain the friendships. And it's the

770
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: blokes who end up because often people choose and they

771
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: choose the other side, and blokes find that they end

772
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 3: up being lonely, and a lot of them commit suicide.

773
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: And particularly you know, my age is a very sensitive

774
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: age for this, because a shit heap of people get

775
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: divorced in their fifties right when the kids leave home.

776
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: Then they're standing looking at each other going fucking hell,

777
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: I don't think I actually like you.

778
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: They end up a divorce, but a lot of blokes

779
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: are just like then they have.

780
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 3: The existential crisis and they're lonely at the same time,

781
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: and their egos damage.

782
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: And it's a just as of trifector, isn't it.

783
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? And this, Mate, it was interesting because I did

784
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: a keynote last week and Mate, look, most of my

785
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 2: keynotes with leaders. I did one for three hundred maintenance workers.

786
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: You know, these are the blokes that basically, you know,

787
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: mow the lawns for schools. And it was interesting, right

788
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: because these are the blokes that you know who these

789
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: are my dad's right, this is how I grew up.

790
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: And I was talking about well being and obviously, mate,

791
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: we don't use well being with those kind of blokes.

792
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: We just talk about stuff and you know, so they

793
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: so they listened, but made after the talk, I had

794
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: a lineup of these blokes and which I was not expecting.

795
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: I was sort of expecting them to just, you know,

796
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: go off to morning tea and that'll do it. And

797
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: there was a lineup of these blokes and I'll tell you, mate,

798
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: the problems that they had. I had one bloke who

799
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: had sixteen suicides around him in his peer group over

800
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: the last ten years. Sixteen suicides. Yep, one bloke And

801
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 2: he said, to be honest, Timmy, I think I'm net shit.

802
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: I think I'm and that's what we said. I think

803
00:39:59,440 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: I'm next.

804
00:39:59,880 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: My.

805
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: I had another guy mate who just lost his super

806
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars in super everything he owned another

807
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: bloke who just had a divorce the love of his life.

808
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: Another bloke who was married to you know, a woman

809
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: who was married to a phone and just felt completely

810
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: lonely twenty four to seven around her. And mate, these

811
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: are all guys between the age of probably you know,

812
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: fifty and sixty five years old. And it made it

813
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: was it's sad in my heart. Like their batteries, overall

814
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: batteries were just dismal. And I realized, we've we've got

815
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: this problem, mate, Like there's a reason why you know,

816
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: women live longer than men because they talk about the problems,

817
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: right like that's their that's the way that they destress

818
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: and blokes we hold it in. And I think, you know, look,

819
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: my dad's generations, they're probably you know, they're hitting their

820
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: seventies now. They didn't open up, mate, They didn't talk

821
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: about all this kind of stuff. And I think this

822
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: generation we're getting better. You know, Like I'll say I

823
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: love you to my son, I'll give him a big heart.

824
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: And I never heard those words coming out of my

825
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: you know, my dad's I never heard the word I'm

826
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: proud of you. These are the things that we need

827
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: to open up and talk about. And I think what

828
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: we have to do is realize that, yeah, money's important,

829
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: and yes we want to be providers. And that's why

830
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 2: we do it, right, Paul, Like, we do this because

831
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: we want to be really good providers right where we

832
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: give them money and we transfer that money into the

833
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: things that we think our family needs. But then we

834
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 2: forget about the thing that they really actually want.

835
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: And that is us.

836
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: It is our time.

837
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: It's time with you time.

838
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: And so we spend fifty sixty hours a week working, mate,

839
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: because we're trying to support our families. We're trying to

840
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: be the best husband and father we possibly can, unknowingly

841
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: realizing that we're giving them or we're sacrificing the thing

842
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: that they actually want from us, which is just being

843
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: present with our time. And I think going back to

844
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: your point about us being spectators, you know, us blokes,

845
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: we're watching cricket on the inside, you know, on this screen,

846
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: while our young fellows are out the back throwing a

847
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: ball against the wall all by themselves, waiting for dad

848
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: to come out and play with him. And I think

849
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: that that's what we forgot, mate. We're watching the cricket

850
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: on TV. Well, our boys are out the back waiting

851
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: for us to play with them.

852
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 3: And I think this is becoming more of a family

853
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: problem these days, with more female participation in the work

854
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: place and more females and leadership roles, right, because I

855
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: know a lot of really successful, smart as smart as

856
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: females who are in on that treadmill, working sixty hours

857
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: a week, and some of them their husband is doing

858
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: the same thing, And I think, what the fuck is

859
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: happening with the kids?

860
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, because to.

861
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: Your point, you cannot outsource the upbringing of your children, right.

862
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: And I actually had Steve Biddolf on the podcast. Have

863
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: you interviewed him?

864
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: I have an interview with.

865
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: H He's brilliant.

866
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 3: He wrote the book Raising Boys, which is a global

867
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 3: best seller two million plus copies.

868
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: And Steve Biddolf actually head on and I'll never forget it.

869
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 3: He said, if you are working sixty hours a week,

870
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 3: you cannot be a good parent.

871
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck.

872
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 3: And this is from the most eminent psychologist when it

873
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: comes to reaching children. And you know, that's where it

874
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: comes to these hard choices for a lot of people, Like,

875
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: we're not saying that this shit is easy, and particularly

876
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: if you're stuck in that where I've got the big house,

877
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 3: I've got the big mortgage, I've got the school fees

878
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: or whatever it might be. Jesus, you gotta make some

879
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: hard choices, like really hard choices. But it's got to

880
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: start with purpose, doesn't it.

881
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to recay matter. And as you were talking,

882
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about a lot of my clients and I'm thinking, God,

883
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: how would they ever, how would they ever make that

884
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: choice to sell, you know, that beautiful house on Millionaires

885
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: Road and down down grade that beautiful Mercedes into a Toyota.

886
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: And I just think, are they going to do it?

887
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: You know? And sometimes I feel like that almost rather

888
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: lose everything than lose that ego, right, And that's the

889
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: hard thing. I think. What I think. Look, we're trying

890
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: to get into schools at the moment, because this is where.

891
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: It starts, you know, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

892
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: I just think, No, that's fine, Matt. Look I've got

893
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: three different dads, mate, Like I said, interesting childhood, and

894
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: it's really hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

895
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: There's a few that will learn, mate, But to be honest,

896
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: the generation that's above me, it's it's tough, mate. And

897
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: I think this generation coming through. Now, sure we can

898
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: make some change, but the real change is going to

899
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: come through our schooling system. If we can, if we

900
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: can teach our kids on how to actually live well

901
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: within their means and what real what? Okay, I'll tell

902
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: you the three things that matter more than anything else

903
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: for me, Paul, And this is everything that we do.

904
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: We base everything on. This is value, meaning, belonging. Right,

905
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: How do we create value, meaning and belonging within our lives?

906
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: And the reason why this is so important is because

907
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: it creates self worth, and self worth creates self love

908
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: and it's actually self that we need to want to

909
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: look after ourselves because Mate, as you know, we can

910
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: give everyone the tools and the tips and the tricks

911
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: to look after themselves, but if they don't have the

912
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: self worth, mate, and the self love to do that,

913
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: they're not going to do it. And Mate, by the

914
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: time that look, I was an abnomaly, mate, because the

915
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 2: way that I grew up, it was only by chance

916
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: that I met the right people in my right the

917
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: right people in my life at the right time. Was

918
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: the only reason why I moved in a positive direction

919
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: and not a negative right because I could be somewhere

920
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: completely mat, I might even be in the ground like

921
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: who bloody knows. But if we can teach students, mate,

922
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: how to create value meeting and belonging for themselves and others,

923
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: and what they actually value is not external but internal, right,

924
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: then we actually have a chance. Now we've literally just

925
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: created a platform based on that battery check where it's

926
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: going to start sending well being report cards out to

927
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: parents every single week. So as a parent, Mate, I'll

928
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: actually get a wellbeing report card and how my kid's going.

929
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: It takes them sixty seconds once a week and it

930
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: will literally tell me how my son's going or how

931
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: my daughter's going. So what's going to happen? And this

932
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: is what I love, mate, because you know, as parents,

933
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: we're so busy being busy that by the end of

934
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: the week we're exhausted. We get to the weekend and

935
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: we just we're busy doing sports, We're doing busy doing this,

936
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: busy doing that. But what we forget to ask is

937
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: you know, asking our kids, well, how are you guys going?

938
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: What do you actually need? Now? Kids will just go

939
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: I'm fine, just like my mate did. But when you

940
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: get a battery report, it says, oh wow, little Johnny's

941
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: really struggling with friendships. Last week friendships was ten and

942
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: now it's two. Now I know what conversation I need

943
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: to bring up. Or you know, his fund's really low.

944
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm going to take him fishing. So what it's

945
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: doing is it's allowing parents to have a quick snapshot

946
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: on how what their kids actually need, so over that

947
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: weekend when they actually have some time, they're doing the

948
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: things that those kids actually need to recharge their batteries, right,

949
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: and then by the time they hit Monday again, hopefully

950
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: the kids recharged. You know, the parent feels good about

951
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: parenting and not just sticking them in front of an

952
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: iPad and they go, shit, you know what, I actually

953
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: improve the health and happiness of my child this week.

954
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: How fucking good does that feel? Right? They feel valued,

955
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: The kid feels valued. I feel seen, I feel heard,

956
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: which is the greatest you know words in English dictionary.

957
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: I see you and I hear you. And maybe we

958
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: can start to reverse this trend of loneliness and depression

959
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: and suicide and everything else that we're going through in

960
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: this supposedly lucky country mate that we're living in.

961
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 1: To me, what what would you say?

962
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: So think of your seven tools movement, environment, earthing, time, connection, breath,

963
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: and reflection, And is.

964
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: There one or two of those that you struggle with

965
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: more than the others.

966
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, mate, I think for me it's easy to combine,

967
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: you know, movement and out and the outdoors. Right you

968
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: just you know that's an easy one. You go for

969
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: a walk around your block, you go for a walk

970
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: in a park, in a beach. That's easy. Taking your

971
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: shoes off, mate.

972
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: You know this is a two to it, barfoot, You've

973
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: got three, yep.

974
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: Exactly, you've got it. When we start talking about time,

975
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: you know, it's how much time do you actually need

976
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: to do these things? Now? We know from all the research, mate,

977
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: to get vitamin D, your shadows needs to be shorter

978
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: than you. We need about fifteen minutes a day because

979
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: we've got light skin. If you've got darker skin, you

980
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: need longer amount of times. You know, we know that

981
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: you need thirty minutes of walking a day. You know,

982
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: elevated heart rate. These are all the things we know.

983
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: So when we talk about time, we look at the

984
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: science and how much of these things we actually need

985
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: to do to get the right amount. But we also

986
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: talk about putting time in You know, you can't just

987
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: say I'm going to go for a walk tomorrow. What

988
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: you need to do is say, at six forty five am,

989
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to take my family and we're going to

990
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: go a walk for around the block twice, which is

991
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: going to take us thirty minutes. Right, we need to

992
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: create this atomic habits thing, make it habitual. So you've

993
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: got movement, you've got environment, you've got earthing. Now you've

994
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 2: got time. Now connection, Ditch the phone and bring someone along. Mate.

995
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just yourself. Maybe you actually need some downtime

996
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: just for you. Maybe you're so freaking busy with everything

997
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: else you actually need your own time. Or maybe you

998
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: need connection with your kids. Maybe it's a connection with

999
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: you know, your wife or your husband. Maybe it's just

1000
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: with the dog. But connection is, as you know, mate,

1001
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: is the number one predictor in life and happiness. Then

1002
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: when we start talking about you know, breath, it's actually

1003
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 2: just taking those moments to actually do some proper deep breaths. Right.

1004
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: Two part breathing. Get it right into your guts, fill

1005
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: up the guts, fill up the chest, get it out there.

1006
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: Just spend ten nice, big deep breaths to change your

1007
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: physiology right to actually stop and breathe and be and

1008
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: at the same time when you're doing those breasts, Mate, reflection,

1009
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: this is reflection is one of those things that you know.

1010
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: Eckert totally said, awareness is the greatest agent for change.

1011
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: The thing is, Mate, we're so busy being busy that

1012
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: we actually stop and reflect on where we are right

1013
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: now in our lives and what we actually need to

1014
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,479
Speaker 2: do to move forward in a positive direction. So for me, Mate,

1015
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: I have, you know, a routine that I do for

1016
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: thirty minutes a day, combines all of those in it,

1017
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: and my reflection is just doing the battery. Like at

1018
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 2: sixty seconds, I know exactly where I'm at. I share

1019
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 2: it with my wife, I share it with a couple

1020
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: of brothers, a couple of mates, and that's just a

1021
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: good reflection to understand where I'm at, where my people

1022
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: are at. And Mate, that's it. That's the rhythm that

1023
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: I do every single day. And you know, I'll tell

1024
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: you a funny story about this. It was so twenty

1025
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: twelve I started researching all this right twenty fifteen, we

1026
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: created the frameworking Now we're now using it globally and

1027
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: we're working for all these large corporations. And one of

1028
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: the indigenous elevelers in my community, Russell Logan, he's a

1029
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: great bloke, and we're paddleboarding down the creek and anyway.

1030
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: Rusk goes, so, you know, you know this green x

1031
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: seven thing you're doing, hey, Bruhs. And I was like, yeah, Russ.

1032
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: He goes, well, you know these seven tools. I was

1033
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 2: like yeah, mate. He goes, you know your bloody stole

1034
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: that from us, didn't you, mate? And I was like

1035
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: and I was like, bullshit, mate, I spent years researching this.

1036
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: He goes, no, no, no, Timmy, you're missing the point,

1037
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 2: he said, mate, Us blackfellas have been doing these seven

1038
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: tools since the big inning of time, he said. The

1039
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 2: problem is to me now we need you to teach

1040
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 2: it back to us because we've forgotten how to live

1041
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: it a right. And I couldn't believe it, mate, because

1042
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 2: I came home and I sat there and I looked

1043
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: at him and I went, he's bloody right. Indigenous people

1044
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: have been doing this since the beginning of time, right.

1045
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: It's in bred, inness, mate. It's what we're supposed to do.

1046
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: We're supposed to be active outside, connecting, living in communities, right,

1047
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: The industry of less revolution fucked it for us, mate.

1048
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: We took everyone from their communities, put us into factories

1049
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: and everything's changed since. And so when I think about it,

1050
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 2: I was like, man, maybe we actually need to go

1051
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: living back to basics, right, living the way that we

1052
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: used to live that was conducive for our mind, body

1053
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: and souls.

1054
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: So what would you say me it too?

1055
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: Let's peck a really difficult kiss, right, Not that somebody

1056
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 3: who's worken sixty hours a week in a high pod

1057
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: job and has got all of that.

1058
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: What about the single mom or single dad.

1059
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 3: Who are who are struggling, right, who are just struggling

1060
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 3: to get through day to day.

1061
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: You know, they've got kids they're looking after, they don't

1062
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: have help.

1063
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: Were do they actually start any tools or tips for them?

1064
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: Honestly, Paul, I think just moving. I think the first

1065
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: thing that you can do is just to start to

1066
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: move your body. And Albert Einstein instead said, you know,

1067
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: nothing happens until something moves. And when you're stuck in

1068
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 2: that state, mate, it is really bloody hard to get motivated.

1069
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: I get it, Like it's if you're stuck in that dark,

1070
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 2: deep cave and you can't get out of your own

1071
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: mind and your own brain, and you think that life

1072
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: is just not worth living. I think if you can

1073
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 2: just move your body, whether that's just starting for five

1074
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: minutes walk a day, or you know, grabbing your dog

1075
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: or anything like that, I think that's kind of where

1076
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: it starts. Because we know the happy chemicals that are producers,

1077
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: you know, the serotonins of bdnfs and all that sort

1078
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: of thing. I think it starts with movement. After that,

1079
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: I actually think it starts with finding someone you like

1080
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: and spending more time with them. And this just could

1081
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: be a friend, it could be a companion, it doesn't

1082
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: matter who it is, mate, but taking that person along

1083
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: with you, because what's going to happen is not only

1084
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: a you going to move your body. Right if you're

1085
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: having a conversation with someone and there's no phones attached,

1086
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: there being one hundred percent present with you in the moment.

1087
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: That is when you see, you see, you know, you

1088
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: feel seen, and you feel heard, and that's what creates value.

1089
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 2: And what that's going to do, like I was saying before, mate,

1090
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: is that's going to want to make you keep walking.

1091
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 2: Now we have these pack of cards that we created

1092
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: so when mal took his life, we created these pack

1093
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: of cards, and this is how we got the contract

1094
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: with the Australian Defense Force because these pack of cards

1095
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: make blots open up more than anything else I've ever seen.

1096
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: It's like there's some magic in them. And on the

1097
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: back of the time card, all it says is, you know,

1098
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: for the next minute, all I want you to do

1099
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: is set one intention that you're going to do for

1100
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: the next hour. So take one minute right now and

1101
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: set an intention of what you're going to do for

1102
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: this next hour, mate, I remember set. Getting an email

1103
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: is a very very long email from a lady that

1104
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: has been stuck in deep, deep dark depression for a

1105
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: very long time, and she found these cards through a

1106
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: friend of a friend and she said, Tommy, that one

1107
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: card has changed my life because I was stuck in

1108
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 2: my house for two weeks straight. This time, I could

1109
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: hardly get out of bed. I read that card and

1110
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: she said, you know what, I'm just going to vacuum

1111
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: my house. And so she grabbed her vacuum, Mate, and

1112
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: for the next hour she just vacuumed her house. And

1113
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 2: then once she finished that, she picked the card up again.

1114
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: She goes right I'm going to wash the dishes. And sometimes, Mate,

1115
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: when you're in a really, really dark space, you can't

1116
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: think about the next day, right, You can't even think

1117
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: about the next week, the next year, this, You can't

1118
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: think about anything, mate, And people are saying, oh, you know,

1119
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: come and mate, pull your socks up, like you know,

1120
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 2: it's okay, Life's going to be fine. And you're like, mate,

1121
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm going to do for

1122
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: the next fucking thirty minutes, let alone for the rest

1123
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: of her life. And so what she did with that

1124
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: one card is she moved her body, mate, And what

1125
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: she did is created tiny, little micro tasks that made

1126
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: her feel valued because she actually achieved something, no matter

1127
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: how little it was made. Folding the washing, right, just

1128
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: vacuuminting the house, going outside and gardening the weeds. It

1129
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: was just one small intention after the next, after the next,

1130
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: and Mate, that's all she did. She just kept that

1131
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: card with her and whenever she went into a deep

1132
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: dark place, she'd read that card and she'd go and

1133
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: do something simple, which would then create momentum.

1134
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: And then I love it. I love it because it

1135
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: combines two things.

1136
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 3: Right, is the movement actually moving your body is hugely important.

1137
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 3: But having a task or something to do, and what

1138
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: most people don't realize is that motivation follows action, not

1139
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: the other way round. To say, so actually setting herself

1140
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: a little goal and going and doing it and achieving something.

1141
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 3: That's when the Brian Nan releases dealpum in so you

1142
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: can take further actions.

1143
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: So absolutely love it. So Tim, look, this has been awesome.

1144
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 3: It should be energizing for lots of people who are

1145
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 3: and maybe confronting in equal measure, but I think it's

1146
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 3: an important conversation.

1147
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: So the book is called Energized, the.

1148
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: Daily Practice of Connected Leadership and Sustainable Wellbeing.

1149
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: Where can people go to find more about you?

1150
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 3: About Green x seven program, Companies that want to bring

1151
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 3: in as a speaker, want to access you? Up, can

1152
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 3: individuals access the battery because it's a pretty cool little tool,

1153
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 3: So just give us all of it most stick it

1154
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 3: in the show notes.

1155
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful mate. Look, green x seven is our company.

1156
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: You can just go to greenexseven dot com. You can

1157
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 2: do the battery check on the website. I think we're

1158
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: launching it August twenty six, you know, with the book launch,

1159
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: and we're also going to be measuring live on TV, mate,

1160
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: measuring astray as well being live in sixty seconds. So

1161
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: the brilliant thing. Yeah, this is what I'm actually really

1162
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 2: excited about, mate. Sorry for a diversion, but you know,

1163
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: we're going to be able to literally measure you know,

1164
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: your neighborhood, you know, gender, age, and we're going to

1165
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: be able to pinpoint exactly what your neighborhood needs to

1166
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: you know, thrive sustainably. And we're going to blueprint this, mate,

1167
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: so using it for you know, taking thriving communities and

1168
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: take that blueprint and put it onto communities that are

1169
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: surviving or just functioning. So that's that's my big purpose

1170
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: goal at the moment. So yeah, greenex seven dot com. Mate.

1171
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: You know, I'm Tim Jack Adams. You can throw me

1172
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: in on LinkedIn or whatever anything like that. I'm not

1173
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: very good at the whole socials thing, mate, so you know, yeah,

1174
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: I know, but I always tell people just to go

1175
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: find me in nature. But yeah, look Greenex seven, you

1176
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: know team Jack Adams made something like that. But to

1177
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: be honest, mate, I just I think Maye and you

1178
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: would know the same after all this research of doing

1179
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: it for so long for me, ring people's batteries for

1180
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: seven years. From everything that I've known, I think the

1181
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: most important thing is, mate, is to ditch technologies just

1182
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: for a little bit and just grab a friend and

1183
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: go outside and play. I think that is probably the

1184
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: most important thing that we can do as individuals, for

1185
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: our families, for our teams, for our communities. Just go

1186
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: back outside and play because that's where we belong, right

1187
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: and that's what I want people to remember. Go have

1188
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: some fun again, because Mate, there's not one scrap of

1189
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: evidence to say that life should be taken seriously because

1190
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: I've been looking for it and I can't find it.

1191
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: And on that awesome note, thank you very much for

1192
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: your time, and thank you on behalf of the word

1193
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: for the work that you're doing and trying to move

1194
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: the needle because it's freaking important work and it's.

1195
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: Becoming more and more important.

1196
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 3: So hopefully not only can you measure the battery of

1197
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: the nition, but help to move the kneel on it,

1198
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 3: which would be bloody awesome.

1199
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: Thanks well. I appreciate it, mate, and I love the

1200
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: work you're doing too, brother, well done.

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00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: Awesome