1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Just talk about a robots and the man Elon Musk. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Where do you draw the line? 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 3: Like at the moment, there was talk about robots that 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 3: can look after your pet and there's technology out there 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: that can help monitor your food and release. 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 4: It's not a bad idea. 8 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 5: When you go to work, you've got the robot at 9 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 5: home that can talk to the dog or the cat 10 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 5: and then just feed it every now and then. I mean, 11 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 5: you would think a pet would just strike up a 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 5: relationship with you. 13 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 4: Don't have to be human. If you're feeding it, it's 14 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 4: going to love you, isn't it. 15 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: World. 16 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 6: I don't think you can replace true connection. 17 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going to hug you with the warmth 18 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: of the human is it like that bond isn't going 19 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: to be there? Man's best friend will never be a 20 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: robot in a sense, or in reverse. 21 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 5: Have a robot that can just throw a ball for 22 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 5: eight hours while you're at work for your dog at home? 23 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 7: What did dogs do before robots? People went to work 24 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 7: and the dogs stayed at time? Done to break it 25 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 7: to you, it's a dog, but that's what the dog's 26 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 7: meant to do. 27 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 5: Don't reflect, Kate, just think of the future and how 28 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 5: we can embrace it. 29 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It is a little bit frightening. 30 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 2: But where do you draw the line. 31 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: I mean, we talk about robots and we've got cameras 32 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: that our dogs can you can watch your dog at 33 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: home on and you can speak to your dog, and 34 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: a lot of people do that. 35 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: As well, you know. 36 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 6: I mean, firstly, I don't know how to do any 37 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 6: of this. 38 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: So you could have a camera in the backyard and 39 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: you can go. 40 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 4: Annie, Hi, Annie, Annie. 41 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: Poor Annie will walk up to a little tiny black 42 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: dot which is a camera, Cockett's leg on the cameras 43 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: and then look at. 44 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 6: She doesn't cock her leg. 45 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 5: Sorry, our cat's in a fever of travel at the moment. 46 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 5: Just the kill count how many cats? And you know 47 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 5: bj is she's a representative for Peter. She just anything 48 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 5: to do with animals, like we can't even we can't 49 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: even swat flies in the house. We have to trap 50 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 5: them and then just give them a goodbye before we 51 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 5: see them off. 52 00:01:59,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: Has the cat? 53 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 6: Does the cat wear a bell? 54 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: Yes, she's got an Apple air tag as well, so 55 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 4: we know where she is. Oh my god, are you joking? No, no, 56 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: because she goes missing the thing. But are you serious, 57 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 4: She's up to about fourteen dead birds. 58 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 6: Wow, oh not natives. 59 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: Good striker though. 60 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: Oh there was, yeah, a couple of hawks and an 61 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 4: eagle in there at once. 62 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: Here's the interesting thing, Like this man spoke the other 63 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: day and he's a tech expert. He was on stage 64 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: at a conference and he's talking about visiting the factory 65 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: where Elon Musk is building Optimist, the robot which we 66 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: believe will be part of our world and be able 67 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: to help out and throw the ball in the backyard. 68 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say. 69 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 8: Two sundays ago, I went to Tesla with Elin and 70 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 8: I went and visited the Optimist lab. There were a 71 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 8: large number of people working on a Sunday at ten am, 72 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 8: and I saw Optimus three. I can tell you now, 73 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 8: nobody will remember that Tesla met car. They will only 74 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 8: remember the Optimus and that he is going to make 75 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 8: a billion of those, and it is going to be 76 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 8: the most transformative technology product ever made in the history 77 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 8: of humanity. Because what lms are going to enable those 78 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 8: products to do is understand the world and then do 79 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 8: things in the world that we don't want to do. 80 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: Please have a robot with a large language model that 81 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: can do anything. 82 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 6: This is what makes me feel really uncomforted. I don't 83 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 6: know at all. 84 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 5: Can you find the elon grab Jess with Joe Rogan, 85 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 5: because this is what he meant. Remember he was talking 86 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 5: with that we won't have phones anyhow, and this is 87 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 5: where AI comes into our lives, that the robot learns 88 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 5: your life. 89 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: This is what he had to say to Joe Rogan. 90 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: There won't be operating systems, They won't be apps in 91 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: the future that we'll be operating systems are apps, It'll 92 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: just be You've got a device that is there for 93 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: the screen and audio and to put as much AI 94 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: on the device as possible so as to minimized amount 95 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: of bandwidth that's needed between your edge nor device fulling 96 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: on as the phone and the servers. 97 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: There's no apps. 98 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: What will people you like? Will X still exist? Will 99 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: there be email platforms? Or will you get everything through AI? 100 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: You'll get everything through air. 101 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: Will be the benefit of that as opposed to having 102 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 3: individual apps. 103 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Whatever you can think of, or really whatever the air 104 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: can anticipate you might want, it'll show you. That's my 105 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: prediction for where things end up. 106 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: What kind of timeframe were we're talking about here? 107 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's probably five or six years or 108 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: something like that. 109 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: Where do you draw the line? 110 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 7: Though? 111 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: I mean, at the moment, we're okay with a robot 112 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 3: vacuum cleaner and a robot MAA, right, Why we not 113 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: okay with the robot that can stack the dishwasher? 114 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 6: Why are we not okay with it? 115 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 7: Is because it devalues the human experience. And I actually 116 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 7: feel really upset listening to that. I don't know if 117 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 7: anyone else listens to that and feels quite sick frightened. 118 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 6: Do you know what need to I find that quite scary. 119 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: And when you took the dog for a walk yesterday, Yeah, 120 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: let's just say you were too tired to take the 121 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: dog for a walk. 122 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 6: But then I die of heart disease. But do you 123 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 6: know what I mean? 124 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 7: Like the joy that you get. Let's let's like the 125 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 7: joy that I got yesterday from walking the dog, Like, 126 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 7: like what if we don't if we don't have that 127 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 7: and I don't have to walk the dog, what do 128 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 7: I have? 129 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: Well, you know what came? You walk the dog and 130 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: then you went home and you had a whole lot 131 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: of stuff to do at home. What if while you 132 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: were walking that job could be done by a robot 133 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: at home? 134 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 6: But I should take the Christmas tree down because that's 135 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 6: my Christmas tree. And do you know what? 136 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 7: I enjoy the sentimental process of it because all the 137 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 7: decorations mean something. And then I can reflect on the 138 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 7: holidays like where where does all that stuff go? 139 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 4: Elon musk isn't targeting you, mate, You're a boomer. 140 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 5: And then. 141 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: Then you get it to bed to imagine this k well. 142 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 7: Then you avoid of emotion and connection. 143 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 6: I feel really strongly. 144 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: About it by yourself, and then you just feel a 145 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: cold hand on your head. 146 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: Good. 147 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: No, do you know what will end up being? This 148 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 4: is what it will be. 149 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 5: May May your daughter, she's twenty five years of age. Mum, 150 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 5: I'll see you Christmas and then mail go. I can't 151 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 5: be staff catching up with Mum this Christmas and the 152 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: robottle rock. 153 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 4: Up to you. 154 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: If I'm going off with that. 155 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 4: To be popular right, run on a motorbike. 156 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 6: It's at one Optimus Prime at my house. 157 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: He's at the front door. 158 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: Hello, Helloa Mary, Christmas. 159 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: I volted for your gold logie. 160 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: Sits in Whippa with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast 161 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: walk great shows like this. 162 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: Download the Nova player, Fire the app store, or Google 163 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: playing the