Speaker 1: I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming.
Speaker 2: She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of
Speaker 2: my kissing style with.
Speaker 1: The boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's in
Speaker 1: a trash bin. He's non recyclable. Catching him mu.
Speaker 2: I love being Love, I Love Love.
Speaker 3: On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we are
Speaker 3: honored to introduce you to Michael Theo, the star of
Speaker 3: the Netflix TV show Love on the Spectrum.
Speaker 2: Michael, also known as Mister Aplas, is here to provide
Speaker 2: an insight into dating in the modern world and how
Speaker 2: to stay true to yourself. Stay tuned.
Speaker 3: Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all
Speaker 3: things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between.
Speaker 2: This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,
Speaker 2: intimate details, advice, and much more.
Speaker 1: Michael, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Anna, Hello, Matt, thank you.
Speaker 1: So much for coming on.
Speaker 3: I was saying to you before, you have been at
Speaker 3: the top of my list to have on this show
Speaker 3: as a guest.
Speaker 4: That's quite surprising, it is. I just never really expected that.
Speaker 3: Really really honestly, when I told my friends and family
Speaker 3: that you were going to be on our show. They
Speaker 3: were so excited. My group chat was going off. Everyone
Speaker 3: was like, Oh my god, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Can I come meet him?
Speaker 2: Same with my mum and sisters. They love him and
Speaker 2: they're jealous. I get to They like can I come in?
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, maybe next time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like, you know, you've went on to Love
Speaker 3: on the Spectrum and you've become a household name overnight.
Speaker 1: How does that feel.
Speaker 4: It's surprising and flattering, but also kind of slightly overwhelming
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine it would be really overwhelming.
Speaker 2: Do you get recognized a lot? Like when you go out,
Speaker 2: do people come up to you? Well?
Speaker 4: Sometimes they do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you find that annoying or fun?
Speaker 4: Or it's not annoying, it's annoying, it's enjoyable.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How's your family finding it?
Speaker 3: Because they were also on the show with you, they
Speaker 3: seem so lovely.
Speaker 4: Well, they've adapted to it. But get I get recognized
Speaker 4: a lot more than they do. Yeah. My mother also
Speaker 4: tends to get recognized as well.
Speaker 1: She was a huge part of the show.
Speaker 2: She is.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're very close with your family. You live at
Speaker 3: their house. Yeah, in your quarters?
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, quarters is what I call my bedroom, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I remember on season one you had your.
Speaker 3: Little love ducks, was that right, Yeah? Yeah, which I
Speaker 3: just thought was so like, so cute.
Speaker 1: I love that. How is your love life going?
Speaker 4: Not that great at the moment.
Speaker 2: Okay, still no girlfriend?
Speaker 1: Okay have you been dating?
Speaker 4: I have dated before, even outside of the show, but
Speaker 4: I haven't been on many dates recently.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want.
Speaker 3: To talk about love on the spectrum first before we
Speaker 3: get into your love life. I'm dying and itching to
Speaker 3: get there, but I'm going to rain myself in a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 4: I can see that.
Speaker 1: How did you get on the show? Like? Did you apply?
Speaker 4: I didn't. The Olympictures contacted various employment agencies to look
Speaker 4: for any potential candidates. One they contacted is named at
Speaker 4: Work Australia. I'm with them. They contacted at Work Australia
Speaker 4: and they recommended me.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 2: Also, So did you go through like a casting after
Speaker 2: that or did you have to work after that?
Speaker 4: When I first heard about it, I found it intriguing
Speaker 4: and I apparently persisted with contacting them in hopes of
Speaker 4: getting onto it cool because I thought it as my
Speaker 4: best chance to help me find a partner.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And how was it being on the show.
Speaker 4: It was a very fun experience. I have no regrets
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 2: What was the harder saying about filming on the show?
Speaker 4: You think I don't recall there being any hard moments.
Speaker 1: Was it awkward?
Speaker 3: Because Matt and I we've been on a reality TV
Speaker 3: show kind of surrounding dating. I found it really awkward
Speaker 3: when I was on a date and there was cameras there,
Speaker 3: because I was like, oh, what am I going to say?
Speaker 1: How did you feel being on dates?
Speaker 4: I felt pretty confident. Yeah, the cameras didn't bother me.
Speaker 3: How was the date when there was a bit of
Speaker 3: an awkward moment and your date got actually a bit
Speaker 3: stressed out? How was that moment for you?
Speaker 4: I was pre concerned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you looked concerned.
Speaker 4: Because I naturally believed that.
Speaker 1: It was my fault, ah, which isn't the case.
Speaker 4: Because if a woman's not enjoying herself, isn't that typically
Speaker 4: the man's fault.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was kind of talking about, Like,
Speaker 3: I think it is so overwhelming when there's cameras there.
Speaker 3: It just adds like a new element of stress and
Speaker 3: I being on a reality TV show, felt that stress.
Speaker 3: So when I all that moment, I was thinking, she
Speaker 3: must be really stressed out, Like it's so intimidating.
Speaker 1: I find going on a first date stressful as it is.
Speaker 3: With the camera without the cameras, but then with the cameras,
Speaker 3: it's like that extra pressure.
Speaker 2: I suppose, how did you deal with her when she
Speaker 2: was stressing out? To make it feel more comfortable.
Speaker 4: I apologize for how the evening turned out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I want to talk about this.
Speaker 1: There was actually a petition.
Speaker 3: Going around, and I'm sure you've seen it for you
Speaker 3: to be the Bachelor or the next Bachelor.
Speaker 1: How did that feel seeing that?
Speaker 4: I was a little bit surprised about that, But I'm
Speaker 4: personally not really keen on joining something like that. It's
Speaker 4: because I've heard that the participants aren't really allowed to
Speaker 4: be themselves. Really, That's what I've heard at least, and
Speaker 4: every guy on that show is like chiseled and hairless.
Speaker 3: I think you have so much to offer, like you
Speaker 3: would be an incredible bachelor, would I?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're reel down to earth and you're telling me
Speaker 2: how it isn't that and try bringing the best out
Speaker 2: of the girls, so they're not being fake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, I think watching you on Love on
Speaker 3: the Spectrum, like, I feel like Australia fell in love
Speaker 3: with you, and I think you have so much to
Speaker 3: offer someone and I think you'd be great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with that, But the only question
Speaker 4: is who in Australia would even would even accept me
Speaker 4: as a potential husband.
Speaker 2: All right, So I feel like you're me a little
Speaker 2: bit the same. We're both hopeless romantics. We love to
Speaker 2: like love. Would you say that that's where you are?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you love love, don't you?
Speaker 2: Man? Do I love being in love? So I've been
Speaker 2: dying to know. How is your love life going?
Speaker 4: Not that great at the moment?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You said before you haven't been on many dates,
Speaker 2: not not recently, not recently. Why is that you just
Speaker 2: haven't found anyone that you want to go out with?
Speaker 4: Well, I am on e Harmony, cool, and I am
Speaker 4: talking to someone. I'm not really going to mention her
Speaker 4: name for privacy reasons.
Speaker 1: That's totally fine. And how's that going?
Speaker 4: It's going? Well?
Speaker 2: Have you met up with her or just talking to
Speaker 2: her online?
Speaker 4: We're talking online, but we're actually playing to meet pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Ah, that's very exciting. Is she. I know you were
Speaker 1: talking about this before that you prefer older women.
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Is she older?
Speaker 4: Yep? Just by one year?
Speaker 1: Cool. Why is it that you like older women.
Speaker 4: Well, it's because if it's like five years or six
Speaker 4: years or seven years older, I might be a bit
Speaker 4: too young for do you think, and it might be
Speaker 4: a bit too immature for I don't think.
Speaker 2: So you come across very mature and hold yourself very well.
Speaker 4: Yes, I would say that, but I also do have
Speaker 4: some moments of immaturity, like everybody else does.
Speaker 2: You're only male, man, I still have a lot of
Speaker 2: immature moments.
Speaker 1: What did you say before when we were outside and
Speaker 1: you were talking about the reason why you like older
Speaker 1: women is sometimes because.
Speaker 4: I'll explain, there's a difference between a woman and a girl.
Speaker 4: A woman has maturity. Girls do not. Okay, right, if
Speaker 4: you're younger than twenty five, you're still a girl. But
Speaker 4: when you get into your late twenties, you're about fifty
Speaker 4: to seventy five percent done with your transformation into a woman.
Speaker 4: But when you're getting to your thirties, that's when the
Speaker 4: complete transformation takes place.
Speaker 3: So thirty is like the optimum age for dating.
Speaker 2: Do you think by then a woman knows what she wants.
Speaker 4: Yes, and is more keen on selling down rather than
Speaker 4: just only focusing on having a good time.
Speaker 1: You're right, I agree. I think that's true.
Speaker 4: And I also find it very disheartening when a lot
Speaker 4: of girls are hoping for a deep connection. Well, some
Speaker 4: guys just only want a one night stand. But I
Speaker 4: have a bit of advice for those girls who get
Speaker 4: heartbroken by those one night stands.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 4: Let's hear it, do what you need to with him,
Speaker 4: then broom him fast.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I think all those girls need.
Speaker 4: To hear that, because, after all, a pair of breasts
Speaker 4: and a backside don't define a woman.
Speaker 2: True, that's their personality as well.
Speaker 4: Exactly what's going on in her heart and soul and
Speaker 4: mind defines a woman.
Speaker 2: Do you believe in energy between two people, the energy
Speaker 2: in their bond that you know straightaway that you feel.
Speaker 4: That, Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do as well.
Speaker 4: And if you're on a first day with someone, you
Speaker 4: have to pay attention to your heart and see how
Speaker 4: you feel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the biggest piece of advice I was ever
Speaker 2: given on a first date. Stop worrying about how they're
Speaker 2: feeling or what they're doing, and worry about how you're
Speaker 2: feeling and how you feel about them.
Speaker 4: If your heart's racing, that's actually a bit of a sign,
Speaker 4: a sign that that you're attracted to her.
Speaker 2: But I found on a first date with my new
Speaker 2: girl that my heart wasn't racing. I felt really comfortable
Speaker 2: around her, So I felt like that was a good sign.
Speaker 4: That's also another good signet.
Speaker 2: You're comfortable in our energy and you're comfortable in her presence.
Speaker 4: If you're on a first date and you feel comfortable
Speaker 4: with that person, you enjoy your time with that person.
Speaker 4: Explore that further, go deeper into it. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 4: why stop there?
Speaker 2: Exactly why I didn't good?
Speaker 3: I think as well, like if I'm on a first day,
Speaker 3: if I start to get anxiety and I don't feel comfortable,
Speaker 3: that's like a red flag for me and like this
Speaker 3: is probably not right.
Speaker 2: Well, people relate those butterfly feelings to like when you're
Speaker 2: anxious and you're not enjoying someone's company, to like actual
Speaker 2: like you think you like them, But they need to
Speaker 2: separate those two things that sometimes those butterflies are actually
Speaker 2: telling you that this isn't right for you. You're actually anxious.
Speaker 4: The butterflies would be like a combination of excitement and nervousness.
Speaker 1: Nervousness, You're right.
Speaker 2: Either way, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Tell us about the first time you had a crush
Speaker 1: on a girl.
Speaker 4: It was early twenty ten. I was still in high
Speaker 4: school at the time, year ten. She was quite beautiful
Speaker 4: and she made my heart race, but she just didn't
Speaker 4: feel the same way it was at the time. But
Speaker 4: I was kind of saved. Yeah, you know, dodged the.
Speaker 2: Bullet end up being a red flag.
Speaker 4: Let's just say that God was giving me a glimpse
Speaker 4: of what it's like to fall in love.
Speaker 1: So you're getting a little taster of what it could
Speaker 1: be like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, we always talk about dating, and
Speaker 3: we say that every date that you go on that
Speaker 3: doesn't work out, you're getting closer to being with the
Speaker 3: one or finding the one that's right for you, figuring.
Speaker 2: Out yourself what you want in the partner.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of figured that out this morning, do
Speaker 4: you do. Yeah, every time you go on a date,
Speaker 4: the closer you are to finding someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Great attitude to have, and that's the attitude where
Speaker 2: you had as well.
Speaker 3: Every time it doesn't work out, it's always a lesson,
Speaker 3: so you have to find out what the lesson is.
Speaker 1: And it seems like you found the lesson in that one.
Speaker 4: Yes, although I will have to admit I am quite
Speaker 4: particularly attracted to English women.
Speaker 1: English women right, and I was born in England. I
Speaker 1: was born in England.
Speaker 3: I'm from the UK, from the UK as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so you think potentially you might go to England and
Speaker 3: see if there's someone special there.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, when are you looking at doing that?
Speaker 4: You're going to be looking at going to the UK
Speaker 4: next year?
Speaker 2: Well, we have a lot of English listeners, so let
Speaker 2: them know that you're going to be there then, yeah,
Speaker 2: they can fight into your DMS.
Speaker 1: What is it about English women that you like?
Speaker 4: Well, let's just say that they're quite attractive for a start,
Speaker 4: and not to mention their accents. The accent for me,
Speaker 4: it's quite a.
Speaker 1: Turn on, isn't it. I love an English accent too.
Speaker 4: And their culture seems classy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about your dream date in England before?
Speaker 1: Can you share that.
Speaker 4: I dreamed it in England would probably be an English
Speaker 4: high tea with a woman.
Speaker 3: Really romantic like some scones cream and jam, pouring some
Speaker 3: nice terbal tea.
Speaker 2: Which breakfast tea?
Speaker 4: I actually drink fruit flavored tea, yeam. And I would
Speaker 4: also prefer if there was cheese as well, or nice
Speaker 4: and crackers.
Speaker 1: Nice nice. I love a cheese flatter.
Speaker 2: I was just going to ask you. I find it
Speaker 2: hard at the best of times to read women like
Speaker 2: I struggle heaps with that. Do you find it as
Speaker 2: confusing as well? Like sometimes you don't know what they're
Speaker 2: thinking when you're on dates with them, and that.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't really always know understand how a woman
Speaker 4: is feeling, but I do my best to try to understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you go about doing that? Do you
Speaker 2: ask them questions?
Speaker 4: Ye? Ask some questions and read their body language. Facial
Speaker 4: expressions always give you clues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a question for you. Were you allowed
Speaker 3: to date growing up? Was your parents strict or were
Speaker 3: they pretty chick?
Speaker 4: They didn't allow it really. They wanted me to focus
Speaker 4: on my studies first, so I never had a girlfriend
Speaker 4: in high school. I had no choice.
Speaker 1: Do you know what?
Speaker 3: My parents were exactly the same. I was not allowed
Speaker 3: to date. I wasn't allowed to have a boyfriend. No
Speaker 3: boys were allowed to come over to the house. They
Speaker 3: wanted me to focus on school.
Speaker 2: I wish my parents were a little bit more like that.
Speaker 2: I was too busy dating and wasn't able to focus
Speaker 2: on my work.
Speaker 4: It does seem like a bit of a distraction at times.
Speaker 4: But your parents' rules they seemed pretty restrictive. They trust me.
Speaker 3: So what I love about you, Michael is that you're
Speaker 3: just such a gentleman. And on the show it comes
Speaker 3: across that you have really great morals and values.
Speaker 1: Where did you learn this from?
Speaker 4: I inherited all of this for my dad and my
Speaker 4: mother as well, because you see, my father has passed
Speaker 4: on a lot of his teachings to me. Okay, it's
Speaker 4: a combination of Buddhism and Christianity.
Speaker 1: Great, I actually think I saw.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was season one or season two,
Speaker 3: but you're really into meditating as well, now, is that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? My dad taught me meditation, He taught me about spirituality,
Speaker 4: he got me into it.
Speaker 1: Cool. I find that that really helps with that anxiety.
Speaker 1: I suffer from anxiety, so does Matt, and we do
Speaker 1: a lot of mindfulness and meditation to kind of calm
Speaker 1: our thoughts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I also listen to meditation music as well.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 4: It always helps.
Speaker 1: It's really relaxing, isn't it.
Speaker 4: And by coincidence, I also happen to have anxiety.
Speaker 1: Do you do? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you find that it helps with your anxiety the
Speaker 2: meditation then?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So one of my favorite quotes from you in season one,
Speaker 3: I'm going to repeat it now and you can.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll recall this.
Speaker 3: You said, a lot of people our age aren't into commitment.
Speaker 3: They're only interested in intercourse. A lot of girls want
Speaker 3: a boyfriend for a bodyguard or a sugar daddy. I
Speaker 3: think you're such a straight shooter, and I think that's
Speaker 3: why you're so loved because everyone can relate.
Speaker 1: It's like you're saying what everyone's thinking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's because there are some girls, like in their
Speaker 4: late teens or early twenties, you just want a boyfriend
Speaker 4: just you know, for sexual pleasures or even material pleasures,
Speaker 4: basically anything that's not considered important.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you consider to be important?
Speaker 4: Compatibility, love between both souls and willing to do anything
Speaker 4: for each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so beautiful, and you're right, that's the things
Speaker 3: that actually truly matter.
Speaker 4: You're probably familiar with star signs, right I am what
Speaker 4: star sign are you? Pisces?
Speaker 1: Ooh, I'm a Taurus.
Speaker 2: I'm a Cancer.
Speaker 4: Pisces in Cancer are both highly compatible because they're both
Speaker 4: water signs.
Speaker 2: What month is a pissy February in March? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know a couple of cool.
Speaker 4: And also Cancer and Pisces are the most sensitive star signs.
Speaker 2: Would you find yourself very sensitive and emotional?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, same with myself.
Speaker 1: Man, what about Taurus and Pisces.
Speaker 4: Yes, they would be compatible because Taurus is an earth
Speaker 4: sign and water mixes with earth.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: I love it that you know so much about star science.
Speaker 3: I find them so interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm quite fascinated by astrology.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So when you're dating someone, do you take into account
Speaker 3: what their star sign is before dating or do you
Speaker 3: ask them?
Speaker 4: I would ask them, but also decide how compatible are
Speaker 4: we ac calling to our star science. Yeah, because I
Speaker 4: feel that it's somewhat important, but yeah, not completely all right?
Speaker 2: So when do you think the perfect time is for
Speaker 2: a kiss, like your first kiss with the girl on
Speaker 2: the first days, On the first.
Speaker 4: Day, maybe a bit too early. I'm thinking maybe the
Speaker 4: third or fourth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember watching you on Love and the Spectrum
Speaker 3: and it was so sweet.
Speaker 1: It was a really nice moment. You were telling your
Speaker 1: mum about how you were planning to give a kiss
Speaker 1: on the hand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2: That's a real gentleman thing to do.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is. But I recently decided to stop doing that,
Speaker 4: right because I was told that some girls find that
Speaker 4: creepy and it's kind of old school as well. It
Speaker 4: is old school even for me.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it can be seen as very gentlemanly. Yes,
Speaker 3: some people might find it creepy, but I don't know,
Speaker 3: it seems quite sweet.
Speaker 2: If you want to do it and you think it's
Speaker 2: sweet and they find it's creepy, then maybe they're not
Speaker 2: the one.
Speaker 4: Because I'm more comfortable around women that appreciate gentlemanly romantic gestures.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because if she doesn't appreciate those things, it's kind
Speaker 4: of a deal breaker.
Speaker 3: That's what it is, a deal breaker, because then she's
Speaker 3: not accepting you for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a gentleman at heart, So you need someone
Speaker 3: who is looking for that and he's going to appreciate that.
Speaker 4: And if I'm aiming for someone who's older than me,
Speaker 4: I would have a better shot.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I can imagine you with an
Speaker 1: older woman.
Speaker 4: Only by maximum four years.
Speaker 1: Yes, so how old are you again?
Speaker 4: Twenty seven?
Speaker 3: So they can only be up to thirty one. That's
Speaker 3: the maximum around now, at best at death. I wanted
Speaker 3: to ask you what your ideal woman kind of encompasses, like,
Speaker 3: what does she look like?
Speaker 1: Who is she? What does she do?
Speaker 4: Hair color, eye color, and what her lips look like?
Speaker 4: Those things don't matter.
Speaker 2: Cool, you're looking for a deeper connection than that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so what is that? Then? What do they bring?
Speaker 4: A beautiful, loving woman with a pure heart, who comes
Speaker 4: from a good family, and if she also has a
Speaker 4: very intelligent mind, that is a big bonus.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a dream man to find one of them, but.
Speaker 4: The problem is they're quite hard to find these days.
Speaker 2: You're right, If you find one, you better lock it
Speaker 2: down as quickly as possible.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that brings you to the next point. I
Speaker 2: thought it was really cute. You've already planned your future
Speaker 2: wife's agent ring. It's in a form of a crown.
Speaker 4: Well it would look like a crown. Yeah, cut, But
Speaker 4: if I was to propose to a woman, I would
Speaker 4: probably do either a ring or maybe a tiara.
Speaker 3: A tiara, so you do both or you just do
Speaker 3: a ring.
Speaker 4: Both thought either well.
Speaker 2: Either so you get on one knee with like a
Speaker 2: tiara and open that up for her.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it. I've never heard of anyone
Speaker 1: do that before.
Speaker 4: Well, it's because in an episode of The Big Bang Theory,
Speaker 4: Sheldon gave Amy a tiara.
Speaker 1: Right, and you were like, good idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's pretty much saying that she's your queen
Speaker 2: or your princess for the rest of.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say princess. That's not the correct word.
Speaker 2: Queen.
Speaker 1: Is that too young?
Speaker 4: Yeah, queen?
Speaker 2: You want a queen?
Speaker 1: Queen?
Speaker 4: That's better.
Speaker 2: You want the queen.
Speaker 4: Because after a wife and a house makes a man
Speaker 4: a king.
Speaker 2: True, you're a king.
Speaker 4: I still live with my parents.
Speaker 1: But in the future, do you think you'd call her
Speaker 1: your queen? Okay? What's a deal breaker.
Speaker 4: On a first date if she smokes or takes drugs
Speaker 4: or engages in crimes. Yeah, yeah, and also has body
Speaker 4: piercings as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, anybody piercings or any any at all.
Speaker 4: That's different. That's different because they're not piercings. They're jewelry.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, so.
Speaker 2: You mean like a nose ring, lip ring.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those things are unattractive. Yea nose rings, lip rings,
Speaker 4: and also piercings in the belly and also in the tongue,
Speaker 4: they're unattractive.
Speaker 3: I've got a belly button ring.
Speaker 1: Is that a big cross for me?
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it. It's a big cross, Okay.
Speaker 1: I got it when I was very young.
Speaker 4: When I say, I see, that's all I can think
Speaker 4: of to say when somebody says something, Yeah, that's fair enough.
Speaker 1: No, that's fair enough.
Speaker 3: I got it when I was very young, and I
Speaker 3: probably probably shouldn't have got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not attracted to them either if I see
Speaker 2: them with tattoos.
Speaker 4: It depends on the design and how colorful it is.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And do you like hidden tatoos as well or do
Speaker 2: you like invisible?
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, it's the woman's personal choice.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Do you have any advice for people who are really
Speaker 3: shy and scared to date?
Speaker 4: I would say, just be yourself and give people a chance.
Speaker 4: And it doesn't take much work to pluck up some
Speaker 4: courage to just go on a date with someone. And
Speaker 4: see how things go.
Speaker 3: What about people who are too scared to go on
Speaker 3: dates because of rejection and they're just kind of sitting
Speaker 3: at home and hoping to find someone, but they're not
Speaker 3: actually doing anything about it.
Speaker 4: Just because you rejected once, that doesn't mean it's going
Speaker 4: to happen again and again and again. You just don't
Speaker 4: know if it's going to happen. I would say, just
Speaker 4: go on the date, see how it goes, and if
Speaker 4: you get rejected, that's that's a clear indication that person
Speaker 4: is not for you.
Speaker 2: So you said that you suffer from anxiety before, how
Speaker 2: do you mentally prepare and get yourself ready for a
Speaker 2: first date?
Speaker 4: Then I just generally have faith that it will go
Speaker 4: well and just show some confidence.
Speaker 2: It's the best way to do it.
Speaker 4: But I'm not an overly confident person.
Speaker 2: I'm very confident sitting here talking to us, though.
Speaker 4: Well, when I say over confident, I'm talking about somebody
Speaker 4: who who acts in a very cocky, egotistical manner, arrogant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody likes that though dating someone like that.
Speaker 4: That confidence is too high, I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit of a turn off for women
Speaker 2: as well, when they afk like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be. I don't recall the best dating experience.
Speaker 2: You recall your worst date experience. Nope, No, if it's all.
Speaker 3: Being just you know, I think watching you on Love
Speaker 3: on the Spectrum, you are so good at going on days. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I think watching you you did amazingly.
Speaker 4: Oh thanks.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think I've ever been on a
Speaker 3: date where people are pulling out my chair. I remember
Speaker 3: you brought someone a corsage.
Speaker 4: Do you want to explain to corsage is a type
Speaker 4: of flower that that woman were on her wrist?
Speaker 2: Oh? So like for like the in America, I like
Speaker 2: the proms and that. Yeah, that's that's cute.
Speaker 4: In Australia we call them a formal A formal.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and it's like a romantic gesture from a day.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he got he You gave a corsage to
Speaker 3: one of your dates on the show.
Speaker 2: Did she like that? She she did? Yes, that is
Speaker 2: really cute.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about your podcast.
Speaker 3: Sure, congratulations fast it's old mister A plus. You are
Speaker 3: absolutely killing it. What made you start this podcast?
Speaker 2: Okay, here's how it all started.
Speaker 4: I first got an agent and that these numerous people
Speaker 4: wanted to get me on me.
Speaker 2: As a guest on their on their podcasts.
Speaker 4: But then she asked one day, asked me, all these
Speaker 4: people are getting you on your on their podcasts, why
Speaker 4: don't you have your own podcast? And I thought about
Speaker 4: it and decided that maybe I should do one, and
Speaker 4: I started going through a list of topics I'd like
Speaker 4: to discuss and people would like to interview and on
Speaker 4: their end, they started contacting various podcast companies and they
Speaker 4: came across DM Podcasts and they eventually agreed to collaborate
Speaker 4: with me.
Speaker 2: Amazing, What is your favorite topic to cover on your podcast?
Speaker 4: I have several favorites. Do you want? One of them
Speaker 4: is like romance and also railways and malls, acting, Thomas
Speaker 4: the Tank Engine, films, television shows, sitcoms, spirituality, nature, astrology, Yeah, astrology,
Speaker 4: and also Yowie's.
Speaker 2: Little Yes a little Yeah, they're unreal.
Speaker 1: What are they?
Speaker 2: They're still around?
Speaker 4: Yes, they're still around?
Speaker 2: One Where do you get them from?
Speaker 4: Your best? Better beat, Woolworths and Big w.
Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't had one of them in years, so
Speaker 2: I remember having like the little toys of them as
Speaker 2: well that would come inside of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but these ones. They're different. These ones America revived
Speaker 4: it and then in April twenty seventeen they returned to
Speaker 4: Australian shelves. That's good or well, they're better. I explained
Speaker 4: why My mother used to get them for me all
Speaker 4: the time when I was a kid, and to this
Speaker 4: day she actually still get gets me one every now
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 2: She as a surprise, you like kidne surprise not as much.
Speaker 4: The chocolate is not as great, and the toys inside
Speaker 4: them are a buildable and they're more cartoon like.
Speaker 2: I like you. The surprises each.
Speaker 4: To their own.
Speaker 1: I have to ask you this, who's your favorite celebrity
Speaker 1: that you've met.
Speaker 4: There's quite a few, actually, Roger Bumpus, Bill Farmer, Shane
Speaker 4: Jacobson and down Wells rip.
Speaker 2: And he's surprised that they know who you are. And
Speaker 2: they've watched the show obviously.
Speaker 4: And I don't. I don't really know because dorn Wells
Speaker 4: passed away last year and Roger Bumpus and Bill Farmer
Speaker 4: are actually voice actors. And Shane Jacobson, he's seen it
Speaker 4: and apparently he's a fan of me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. How does that feel?
Speaker 4: Honorable?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I saw that you had an interview with Ellen recently.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: Yes, how did that go?
Speaker 4: It went very well and it was quite a fun experience.
Speaker 1: It looked fun. I saw that she she gave you
Speaker 1: a present a suit. What type of suit?
Speaker 4: A Paul Smith suit?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: Have you wore it yet?
Speaker 4: Not yet because they still need to be taken up, right.
Speaker 1: Do you think you'll wear it on a special occasion?
Speaker 4: Yes? I would probably wear the suit and the shirt
Speaker 4: and tie at somewhere more formal like the opera house. Yep.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: I wanted to quickly talk to you about your family
Speaker 3: because your family, they've come across so well. I know
Speaker 3: we touched on it before and your mum gets recognized. Yeah,
Speaker 3: not as often, not as often as you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You were talking about the fact that your brother was
Speaker 3: giving you a lot of advice.
Speaker 1: He has a girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Right, technically he's engaged.
Speaker 1: Now he's engaged.
Speaker 2: Congratulations to your brother.
Speaker 1: Thanks, awesome.
Speaker 2: How did that go down?
Speaker 4: He didn't in Sydney.
Speaker 2: He did in Sydney.
Speaker 1: Cute.
Speaker 3: And I know your sister saying that she had struggled
Speaker 3: dating like you.
Speaker 1: How's she going with dating?
Speaker 4: Good? She has a boyfriend now?
Speaker 1: Awesome? Do you like him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a pretty great guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Does he give you any advice or.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's actually pretty good with that.
Speaker 3: I love it that you're such a hopeless romantic because
Speaker 3: Matt and I are the biggest hopeless for.
Speaker 1: Romantics going around, and we feel like connected to you
Speaker 1: because you're the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But those kind of people are very scarce these days.
Speaker 4: We are, aren't we Just like with kind people, Yeah,
Speaker 4: people who are selfish and callous, they're very common.
Speaker 2: Steer away from him. The kind of behavior should be
Speaker 2: frowned upon.
Speaker 1: I agree, and I do frown upon it.
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 1: What do you think about online trolls?
Speaker 2: Can't stand them?
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 4: It's like, don't they have anything better to do with
Speaker 4: their time than tear down other people who who deserve
Speaker 4: recognition for an act of kindness.
Speaker 3: Have you had any online trolls after coming off of
Speaker 3: the show?
Speaker 4: A couple?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 1: That's surprising to me. That's so disappointing.
Speaker 4: It was just jealousy.
Speaker 1: What type of things are they saying?
Speaker 4: I'll tell you. They call my mother a bimbo and
Speaker 4: a complete attension hog, which I found insulting. They also
Speaker 4: called me a clown in a cheap suit, and a
Speaker 4: creepers obsessed with marriage.
Speaker 1: That is awful. I'm so sorry you had to put
Speaker 1: up with that. That's not okay, No.
Speaker 4: It's not. In fact, that kind of also ruined it
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 1: It did.
Speaker 2: Don't let the opinions. Don't let one asshole like ruin
Speaker 2: such a great experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3: I think like you have so much to asser. You're
Speaker 3: such a great person, You're a gentleman. I think it's
Speaker 3: more people should be the way you are. Like the
Speaker 3: fact that you want to get married. It's so inspiring
Speaker 3: and a lot of women want that and they look
Speaker 3: at you and think, God, I wish I could be
Speaker 3: with someone like Michael.
Speaker 4: Because a marriage is a partnership. It doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: you're that you own a person, and it does not
Speaker 4: mean that you possess them either. Marriage is the is
Speaker 4: the spiritual and emotional bond between two souls agreeing to
Speaker 4: spend and share their lives together.
Speaker 1: And how beautiful is that?
Speaker 4: It's beautiful, But it's also a very serious commitment.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 4: If you can't commit to something as serious as marriage,
Speaker 4: then you're not suitable for.
Speaker 1: It, correct, and you shouldn't go ahead with it.
Speaker 4: You have to be absolutely certain that you're willing and
Speaker 4: ready to commit to one woman and only that one woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it sounds like you're taking this very seriously.
Speaker 4: It has to be taken seriously, because a man takes
Speaker 4: marriage seriously. A boy can't correct. When you're married, you're
Speaker 4: happy for life. But if you have just like a
Speaker 4: one night stand, you're only satisfied for at least two hours.
Speaker 1: Two hours, if you're lucky.
Speaker 5: I don't know who's coming for two No one that
Speaker 5: I'm aware of, to shame, they'll be lucky if the
Speaker 5: happiness even last for at least twenty four hours. True.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what.
Speaker 3: You're on the mark, Michael. You're such a legend. Thank
Speaker 3: you so much for coming on our show. It's been
Speaker 3: it's been such a pleasure.
Speaker 1: We've had so much.
Speaker 2: Last even talking to you for the last hour or so,
Speaker 2: you can tell you how much of a genuine, nice
Speaker 2: soul you are.
Speaker 1: Here until next time, guys, Thanks, Bye,