WEBVTT - Sharri | 24 June 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:05.880 Line is sharing. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:07.920 Good evening well. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.280 First tonight to the real story behind the shock appointment 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:13.320 of Liberal powerbroker Matt. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.560 Kean joining Tim Albo today. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.959 Keem stands accused of being a turn coat by the 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:23.320 Liberals after Albinezi announced he chair the Climate Change Authority. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:30.680 Mister Keane understands the opportunity that the transition to clean 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:32.680 energy represents for our nation. 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.280 I'll be making decisions and providing advice to the government 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.680 based on facts and I'm really looking forward to getting 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:38.320 into the facts. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:45.240 Keen is divisive, he's polarizing, and he's always been highly ambitious. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.120 Liberal sources told me that he was considering running against 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:53.639 federal Liberal Paul Fletcher, or even potentially challenging the New 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.600 South Wales leader Mark Speakman. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.120 But this role share of the Climate Change. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:03.400 Authority, you'll give him a high profile platform, quite separate 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.480 from the Liberal Party. Political insiders are speculating that Keene 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:11.880 could use his new position to launch a future career 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.960 in Federal Parliament as the informal leader of the Teals. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.720 A key piece of this is that Matt Kean is 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.360 very close to Malcolm Turbull. You'll recall that Keen appointed 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.800 Turnbull to be the chair of the New South Wales 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:31.720 government's Clean Energy Advisory Board, but political uproar saw him 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:36.959 rescind that offer. Now Turbull's number one enemy is Peter Dutton, 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.760 who was plotting a leadership challenge against him as Prime Minister. 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:45.680 In August twenty eighteen, my front page story revealing this 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:50.000 planned a challenge prompted Turbull to call a leadership spill, 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.040 and less than a week later he was no longer 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:53.800 Prime Minister. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.760 In this new role, Matt Kean will come up against. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:01.440 Peter Dutton, even though they've had had a good relationship 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:06.200 in the past. Already Today, Keen dismissed Dutton's plans for 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:07.240 nuclear energy. 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.760 In order to bring nuclear into the system, it would 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.799 take far too long and would be far too expensive 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.320 for New South Wales. Now, I didn't want to bankrupt 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.519 the state and I didn't want to put those huge 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:19.800 costs onto families. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.359 Well, those comments came despite the fact that Matt Keane 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.720 supported nuclear energy just three years ago. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.880 As Andrew Clenell pointed out, today, do you. 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.639 Think we'll ever have nuclear power stations in Australia? 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:34.959 Yeah? 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:35.480 I think so. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.400 There's some exciting things happening on the nuclear front. So 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.080 a company in the United States is developing technology around 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.239 small modular nuclear reactors into the future, will nuclear have 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.840 a role to play? I think so and I hope so. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.959 But right now I can't bet on technology that isn't 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:54.240 readily available. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:55.800 Well. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.480 When he was Energy Minister in New South Wales and also. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.240 Treasurer, Matt Keen wanted to rush the closure of the 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.800 largest culified power station in the state. It was a 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.880 move that Labor Premier Chris Mins has had to reverse, 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.040 and in fact Mins is now extending the life cycle 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.919 of a rearing until twenty twenty seven just to make 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:22.320 sure the lights stay on. This was an extraordinary move 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.800 and it shows that Matt Keen was more radical and 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:30.000 more ambitious in his rush to transition to renewables than 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:35.279 even New South Wales Labor. This has undermined his authority 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.520 in the energy space. Now, Keen wasn't just a former 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.400 state treasurer, but until a few days ago he was 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.320 the leader of the moderate faction for the entire Liberal Party. 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:52.480 Now he's joined the enemy team Albow. The truth is 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.240 that Matt Keen is despised by many in the Liberal 0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:01.440 Party with senior figures today calling him treachery and a traitor. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:06.040 But even before today's move, he was far from loyal 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.520 to the Liberal Party. During the federal election campaign, he 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:14.160 tried to stir up controversy for then Prime Minister Scott Morrison. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:19.240 He texted a Channel ten journalist encouraging her to pursue 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:24.600 the controversy surrounding Liberal candidate Catherine Deeves. He texted the 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:29.039 reporter saying you should pap her. That reporter, by the way, 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:34.880 is now one of eleven media advisors for Anthony Albanesi. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.760 Senior Liberal figures were shocked at the time that Keene 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:44.200 was trying to deliberately sabotage Scott Morrison's prospects in favor 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:49.200 of Albanesi, and then Labor premiers Mark mcgow and, Anisaja 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:53.960 Palische and Daniel Andrews were all out there campaigning to 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.640 help Alberzi win, and yet one of the most senior 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.840 figures in the New South Wales Liberal government was working 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:07.280 against his own party's prospects well. The first time Matt 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.839 Kean spoke out against the Liberal Party federally was here 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.480 on this show in twenty twenty when he accused Scott 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:15.800 Morrison of failing. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.400 To take action on climate change. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.880 The next day, Morrison retorted that no one even knew 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:25.839 who Matt Keen was. Ironically, these comments made Matt Kean 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.600 a more well recognized name. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:31.680 My understanding is some of the most senior members of 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.800 the government and they're not moderates, they're from the right 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.640 of the party cabinet and they are saying that this 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.160 is a huge issue cabnet in cabinet. Absolutely, And can 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.640 I just say, Sherry, I mean this is because their 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.039 communities are crying out. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.000 They're listening to. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.520 The majority of people in their electorates that are saying, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.120 we want you to protect our environment, but we don't 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:50.520 want you to do it in a way that's going 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:51.600 to destroy our economy. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.760 Mc keen doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.640 know what's going on in the federal cabinet. Most of 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.839 the federal cabinet wouldn't even know who mat Key was. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.640 The biggest mistake when it comes to energy policy in 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:06.520 Australia is that it's been driven by ideology over and 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:12.280 above energy security or cost. Peter Dutton has suggested nuclear 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.400 energy form part of the energy mix, not all of it. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:19.520 But in recent days we've seen a farcical display of 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:25.280 Labour rejecting nuclear energy because of ridiculous suggestions of three eyed. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.720 Fish and three eyed koalas. 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:33.960 This line of attack only diminishes Labour's credibility. If there 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.520 is a serious objection to nuclear well let's hear it, 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:42.200 let's have the debate. But so far Albanezi's resistance to 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:46.839 pursuing nuclear as part of the energy solution is ideological 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.000 because he himself has been against nuclear policy for. 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.680 Almost as long as he's been in Parliament. The times 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:55.200 have moved on. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:01.000 Thirty two countries internationally now rely on nuclear energy. Polling 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:05.360 shows Australians are open to the nuclear conversation and even 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.479 our aucust submarine's. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.760 Are nuclear powered. With all of this in mind, Matt. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.720 Keane will be a useless weapon if Labor tries to 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.600 use him against Dutton. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.360 In the lead up to the next election. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:23.520 Now. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.640 Also coming up on the show tonight, the University of 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:30.920 Sydney under fire for appeasing extremist fringe groups. The former 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:35.240 Deputy Commonwealth DPP and one of the country's most formidable. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.800 Crime fighters will join me live to discuss this. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:43.160 Also, the failure of law enforcement to protect Australians. Plus 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.400 how Albinizi is using Victoria as a dumping ground for 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:51.200 his bigger Australia migration policies and the eye watering pay 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.400 rise Albo has given to his left wing. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.560 Mate, the new Governor General. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:02.200 How can he possibly defe and this pay rise during 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.720 the cost of living crisis. But first, now let's bring 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.160 in tonight's panel Sky News contributed Joe Hildebrand and host 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.040 Listora Great Casino. Now, I just want to add to 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.040 this a couple of extra points that I've learned tonight 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.000 during my many phone. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:18.720 Calls on this matter. 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.120 Firstly, it looks like the Liberal Party is not going 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.480 to expel Matt Kean. The Liberal Party needs his support. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.200 They think they need his support for the upcoming by 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:32.480 election in his own seat. Meanwhile, Peter Duttan's office doesn't 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.520 think this is such a terrible move to have Matt 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:36.400 Keen in this role. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:37.720 They say that. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.000 He's so that the people who know him dislike him, 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.400 that he's unpopular, and that having him on the side 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:48.120 of Albo won't help their case. Pretty much in the 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.559 same way that having Chris Bowen as Energy Minister also 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.200 diminishes their case because he is so strongly disliked. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.840 Liz, what do you think about this? I mean, Australians 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.800 haven't warmed to Matt Kean. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.480 There were multiple policy failures in New South Wales. Chrismins 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.680 has had to reverse the closure or delay the closure 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.920 of a wearing. So it is a curious decision and 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.880 it looks like Labor thought it was just being too 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:17.720 smart to make this. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.200 Move, too smart by half. They're like, look, we've got 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.760 to live on side. He's going to be heading it up. Now, 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:28.080 look at this independent body. Look perhaps it was a 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.720 bit of stroke of genius on their part, because that 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:35.360 does now look quite bipartisan. But Matt Kean has been 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.360 the left of the party for a very long time. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.079 I know you said he used to head up the moderates. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.680 I think there are a lot of moderates who would disagree. 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.479 With that, even if that was his official position. 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.040 I think that this is a perfect appointment for Labor. 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.679 This is where Keen has always belonged, heading up the 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.400 climate Communism Authority. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.559 It's a hand in glove appointment. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.680 But what I can't get over is how quickly he's 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:07.319 just switched from being re elected doing his thing to 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.000 just stepping out the door for a by election because 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.640 he's got a better offer. Basically, well, people. 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.720 It depends on the timing, and there's a lot of 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:21.720 thought that this was a very last minute appointment that 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.360 he announced his restoration to join the private sector. And 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:29.000 by the way, on Tuesday, I think, and by the way, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.080 there's a lot of inside speculation that Matt Kean might 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:35.000 go work with Malcolm Turbull. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.880 He's got a renewable energy company. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:42.160 Malcolm Turbull and Lucy Turbull were at Matt Kean's valedictory speech, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.960 so there's a lot of speculation he might go join 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:45.600 the Turbules. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.680 But do you find that hard to believe? 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:48.280 Though, don't you? 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.720 Resigns like less than a week ago and says it's 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:56.560 to join the private sector, and within a week he's 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.400 just got this amazing opportunity and he's off work. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:02.160 It's perfectly possible. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.880 It's not saying it's impossible, but it's a bit hard 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.000 to swallow, I think, and what to say that fact? Yet, 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.079 now we've got to fork out for a by election. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.000 This is a guy who ran. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.120 Obviously, when you run, you're promising your elector I'm going 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.720 to stick. That sort of stuff happens all the time 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:20.959 he leaves for a better role. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.400 I think the problem is, firstly, Matt Kean announced his 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.120 resignation from the Parliament on the day of the New 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.559 South Wales state budget that was handled down by Daniel Wokingham, 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:37.800 magnificent human being. They of Crispians, Daniel and Preuka, and 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.680 that was seen very much among the New South Wales 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.320 right of the Labor Party as a real sort of 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.000 dog act to sort of you know, look at me, 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.920 look at me, trying to divert all the attention to him, 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.720 as as Matt Kean is wont to do at a 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.640 time when the New South Wales government has delivered five 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.760 billion in social housing, something no one can actually remember doing, 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.319 probably the best state budget I've ever seen anyway, point 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:03.040 bing I talked to a lot of people in the 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.960 Labor Player that night and the idea that if that 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.120 had been known, that had been known that Matt Kean 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.880 was about to take up a cushy labor job federally 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.640 on the day it was doing that. You know, these 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:19.000 guys are very very sensible, practical, calm and common sense people, 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.559 But there would have been a riot, people would have been. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:22.720 So is why they. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.520 That tells you how the sense I've got, but you know, 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.520 I haven't confirmed it yet, But the sense I've got 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.840 is that this is a last minute thought bubble. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.880 A captain's speaker Albourne Easy was taken to cabinet at 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.520 the last minute. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.960 Was asked about this today whether it was a captain's pick, 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.680 and he just said, I went through the usual processes, 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.880 which meant presumably that it was taken to cabinet, but. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:50.079 Then also it is to assume but no particular changing. 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:50.360 I thought. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.880 I thought, without knowing this is coming up, didn't didn't 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.400 go through the usual process of applying for it was 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.640 a captain spicking in the sense that Chris Bowen said, 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.400 I want Matt Kean cabinet, mean, all right, there, you 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.520 can have it. Okay, what single vote does this shift? 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:03.680 Like? 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.240 How does this shift the debate on climate? Is anyone 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.440 going to say, oh, I was a climate skeptic, but 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.000 now Matt Kean's on board suddenly I believe? Of course not, 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.320 you know, do people people who already believe in climate 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.600 change and want strong action and not the government's problem. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.320 So they're just preaching to the choir with Matt Kean 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:22.480 without bringing anyone. 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.280 Of believing in climate change. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.079 I mean believing in believing in the extent of the 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.200 action managed the point, the point being, instead of having 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.160 someone who is, you know, someone who is extremely an 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.880 openly non partisan, someone who is perhaps a bit of 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.040 a surprise someone would I wouldn't have thought they were 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.520 all in on it, you know, like a leading business 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.760 figure or someone like that could say, right, I'm just 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.720 going to run the ruler over the economics of this 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.960 action and tell you why a nuclear doesn't stack up 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:50.160 or be okay. Renewables. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.440 Well, look at this amazing story. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.640 Labor proposing a whipping two hundred and fourteen thousand dollars 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.280 pay rise for the new Governor General, sound Mustin, who 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.319 is a mate of Albanesi's, So this would take her 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.760 salary from four hundred and ninety five thousand dollars already huge, 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:13.199 to seven hundred and nine thousand dollars. No reason has 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.960 been given for why sam Musten would need a pay 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.080 rise like this to do the Governor general's job doesn't 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.120 seem like an arduous job. You wear nice clothes and 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:28.920 go to opening ceremonies and you could say, well, is 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.320 their gender parity here, She's been given a two hundred 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.560 grand increase for the same job that a bloke was doing. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.400 Interesting point, Liz, but ultimately. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.520 Australians will hate this during a cost of living crisis 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:40.360 one hundred percent. 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:41.400 And as you've already. 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.560 Said, this is a figurehead more than anything else. The 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:49.720 Governor General doesn't exactly do all that really important pressing matters. 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.640 They show up to things, they cut ribbons, they press 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:53.320 the flesh. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.560 That's pretty much the job in a nutshell. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.360 I understand that they're saying this this rise has something 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.800 to do with the fact that she won't be eligible 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.520 for a pension, which the role used to be et cetera. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.120 So they're now trying to compensate for that. 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:12.320 But when you know that it's a rather short term anyway, 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.560 you don't get to become gg forever. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.640 There literally is no proper I. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.960 Don't think there is a reason that they could give 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:22.840 that the Australian public would be happening. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.080 We have been five years on almost half a million bucks, 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.520 so she would have pocketed two point five mil by 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.320 the end of her term. So I reckon you could 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.720 probably get by on that. I mean again, it's just 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:36.600 another terrible look. You can't defend it again. Turn it down, 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.760 right labor government again, just to bring it back to 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.000 what the sensible right does in the party. Have all 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.160 given all MPs, all ministers wage freezes. They're not getting 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:48.800 any wage rise at all. That's another thing that was 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.520 in this budget that Matt Kein tried to distract from. Meanwhile, 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:56.480 you've got federal politicians still trousering pay rises, and then 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.600 you've got this. How do you defend that? It's like 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.280 this is like again, it's like the screen of Pillar 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.840 in the Simpsons. It's like a creature that wants to die. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.240 I don't know why she should do not know why 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.240 labor keeps making these kinds of decisions that. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:10.000 She should turn it down. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.360 She probably demanded it, you know, when they offered her 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.880 the job. She probably said, I'll only do it for 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.200 seven hundred grand I mean, you don't just voluntarily increase 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:19.280 someone salary. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.080 Back to I cannot imagine. I can't imagine why would 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.480 say absolutely not, that is not that is demeaning to 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.360 this role. If you're even asking for that. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.640 I wonder if you want to be the all Australians 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.680 hate as well. You just feel like you and that's 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.920 fetching more than the Prime Minister himself. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:35.960 You can't tell me that. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:36.400 The role is. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:42.720 More stressful or more bigger house in Camber. She's got 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.720 a bigger house in Sydney. She's got two and a 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.600 half million. You're asking for my I mean, I just 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.960 how do you incredible? How do you go to sleep 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.360 at night thinking this is an okay thing to do? 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.240 This next story, a Downing report today reveals that Victoria 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:58.080 is taking in. 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.360 According to the report, too many imrants. 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.360 This is noting the huge costs of trying to keep 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:08.560 up with infrastructure, roads, public transport, schools and hospitals could 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.360 see the Victorian government face yet another financial disaster. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.160 Already, debt levels are extraordinary, but. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.840 Liz the Home Affairs Minister Clara Neil has repeatedly said 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.040 that she was going to scale back on migration. 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:22.440 But it just hasn't happened. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.119 No, It's been eight months since Labor promised it and 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.679 we haven't seen anything of the sort. So I'm glad 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.840 someone's sounding the bell in Victoria. 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.400 But the truth is the same is to go. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:37.760 For every single certainly Eastern State unless you're sending these 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:42.119 in these newcomers somewhere rural where we've got I don't know, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.919 jobs that they can feel that need doing, but we 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.960 already know even that isn't happening. 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.639 We are allowing these masses of people in. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.480 There seems to be no comprehensive system by which we 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.840 go These are the skills we need. These are the 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:57.280 skills you've got, and we're. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.639 Sending you to we system. 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:00.600 It's happening. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.600 Joe's catch up to. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.159 Catch up after we literally zero people in during the 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.359 COVID years, and now there was a big there was 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.080 a big spike to sort of play catch up with that, 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:11.880 and that was the half million that got everyone's scared. 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.320 And now it's coming and now it's coming down to 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.920 two hundred and fifty thounds. So it is coming down, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.720 but it comes down year by year. It's not that 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:20.359 someone just comes out and says right, and that's it. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.520 Someone just does a little ball, you know, draws up 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.760 a little red rope at the airport, says sorry, no 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:25.720 more people coming in. 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.480 This is ten thousand a week. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:28.800 Joe, Yes, I know. 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:29.280 That was. 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.760 Five hundred thousand divided by fifty years. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.960 It's not coming down conto years. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.080 That's what that's Exactually, what I'm saying, understand them is now. 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:42.280 Shortage of time. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.120 They never took to the election a big migration policy. 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:51.440 This wasn't disclosed to Australians, and the pace both instruction 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:52.960 hasn't kept up with it. 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.639 And that's ultimately we've got a shortage of we've got 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.040 a shortage of construction workers. 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.679 You bring here, you've got to give them house and 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.119 we already know due to we talked. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.120 About this the other week, Joe. 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:10.080 On the list of skills, they've left out important skills. 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.960 That there's also presumably because they think, well, we don't 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.639 actually have a shortage in these particular fields, but in 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.280 things like plumber's electricians are the other fields that you 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.520 need to build houses, we don't have enough to keep 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.880 up with demand. And again say to Blue in the face, 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.680 the reason why developers stop building houses because they thought 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:25.439 there's no more migrants coming, so there's not going to 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.320 be a demand. So this is not a black and 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.520 white issue. You ask anybody who's. 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.359 Certainly not that black and white housing crisis even without 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:32.920 the migration. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:34.000 Not white. 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.560 It's construction with stuff, but we are out of time, 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.439 Joe hud Brand Lizta, thank you both very much. Coming up, 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.240 a former Deputy Commonwealth GPP will speak out about the 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:49.959 failure of law enforcement to protect Australians from violent and 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:54.800 aggressive pro Palestinian protesters and the government's not so new 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.320 climate change star Well after the break the reason the 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.640 Liberal Party doesn't want to spell him despite some pushing 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:04.800 for it and accusing him of treachery. 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:10.640 Welcome back. 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:11.160 Well. 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:15.600 Working on this next story today really upset me. Some 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.439 members of the University of Sydney encampment were reportedly members 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.760 of an extreme Islamist group, his Butteria, which is categorized 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:27.480 as a terror organization in the UK. The group held 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.720 a press conference on Friday night in which they chanted 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:34.080 Ali Wakba, the phrase that has been used as a 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.720 battle cry at least twenty times. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:21:10.120