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Speaker 1: Welcome to the mentor. I'm Mark Boris Mark Hauer. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Mentor, Mate.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious about this. So you're the founder of

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Speaker 1: Distinguished Gentleman's Ride or is it of a distinguished Gentleman's

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Speaker 1: Ride or the Distinguished Gentleman's Ride or as there's no.

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Speaker 2: It's always there. It's the first thing that everyone drops off.

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Speaker 2: It's the distinguished gentleman.

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Speaker 1: I thought it would be. So it's distinguished Gentleman's Ride.

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Speaker 1: So now we're not talking about I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be in appropriate some I'm Sheila.

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Speaker 2: It's all right, they're involved.

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Speaker 1: But so it is distinguished Gentleman's Ride. So let's go

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Speaker 1: right to the very end ride. What are we talking

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Speaker 1: about here?

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Speaker 2: Motorcyclest classic style and motorcycles classic storm.

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Speaker 1: We know what's a classic style motorcycle?

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Speaker 2: Our Cafe races, Bobber's Choppers, you know, things that are

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Speaker 2: sort of older than say, third years old. Really, it's

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Speaker 2: all about vintage, yeah, vintage classic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and Gentlemen's exactly.

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Speaker 2: It raises money for mental health.

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Speaker 1: So that's the purpose of Gentlemen, which means it's inclusive.

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Speaker 1: Anyone can Ride.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we've got females at ride. We've got females

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Speaker 2: that host the event globally, right and distinguished?

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Speaker 1: What does that mean.

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Speaker 2: That's probably a little bit of bullshit because none of

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Speaker 2: us are distinguished, but for one day year we are.

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Speaker 2: Now it's all about a bit of chivy. It's all

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Speaker 2: about getting dressed up. So everyone's dressed up in nice

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Speaker 2: classic suits. Oh really, ladies are in suits for dresses.

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Speaker 2: And it's really about sort of breaking that stereotype that

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Speaker 2: motorcyclists are negative people, that motorcyclists are one percenters. And

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Speaker 2: that's when it started. So twelve thirteen years ago, that

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Speaker 2: was the basis of it, and then it grew into

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Speaker 2: being something that supports men globally.

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Speaker 1: Okay, look we'll go back to twelve thirty years ago,

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Speaker 1: so take me back to your very I know it's

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Speaker 1: it's a massive, massively supported and on today global scale,

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Speaker 1: but let's just go back to the very humble beginnings

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Speaker 1: back in thirteen years ago. How did this come about?

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Speaker 2: It was an interesting one. I got into motorcycles. I

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Speaker 2: woke up one morning and thought I want to get

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Speaker 2: my motorcycle license, and I did that.

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Speaker 1: As in thirteen years ago or.

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Speaker 2: Probably fifteen years ago now, and then ultimately I sort

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Speaker 2: of got this really cool motorcycle. I went to Japan

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Speaker 2: for a few months and I sort of found a

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Speaker 2: style of motorcycle called Cafe racer, and all these guys

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Speaker 2: and girls were customizing these Yamaha SR four hundred motorcycles

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Speaker 2: and they were all individual and I really connected with that.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is cool. It's an extension of

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Speaker 2: their personality. It's quirky, it's different, yeah pretty much, yeah,

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Speaker 2: just no one off the shelf. It's meaningful, yeah, one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent. And I was like, that's cool. And then

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Speaker 2: when I came back to Sydney, I bought that same

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Speaker 2: bike and modified it, and I thought I was king

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Speaker 2: shit for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Did you go to Japan, Mark Sorr? I do so

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Speaker 1: to drop up there, because before you come back from

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Speaker 1: twin did you go to Japan? Look form toorcycle? When

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Speaker 1: you went to Japan you sort of discovered these.

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Speaker 2: Yea, it was just a holiday. It's just a holiday.

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Speaker 2: I love everything Japanese, Japanese cars. It's always been I've

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Speaker 2: got multiple classics, and for me it was always cars.

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Speaker 2: But then it became about motorcycles as well.

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Speaker 1: But are the Japanese into that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't see Japanese.

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Speaker 2: There's a very quirky subculture around cars, around motorcycles. Wow,

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Speaker 2: and the deep you look into it, it's really interesting

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Speaker 2: even seeing some of the well the more one percent.

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Speaker 2: There was Zoku and the style of motorcycles that they've got,

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Speaker 2: I connected with that. I thought, it's cool, no one

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Speaker 2: else has that same motorcycle because they've customized it. So

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Speaker 2: when I came back to Sydney, I bought one and

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Speaker 2: ultimately I sat there and I thought, wow, I'm really bored.

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Speaker 2: I've got no one to ride motorbikes with. I've always

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Speaker 2: had this big friendship network, but none of them were

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Speaker 2: into motorcycles. So I started up a group, a group

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Speaker 2: called Sydney Kafa Races, which was all about bringing people

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Speaker 2: It grew to a Melbourne Group, at Brisbane Group, Perth Camera, Newcastle.

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Speaker 1: What do you do through Facebook? Or yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It was all used in social media, like there's

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Speaker 2: some really, I mean, I always say there's good and

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Speaker 2: bad parts of social media, but for us it's been

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Speaker 2: really beneficial for what we do globally. And off the

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Speaker 2: back of that, just being able to network people, I

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Speaker 2: developed a bit of a following people overseas, big custom

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Speaker 2: bike builders, guys like Robbie Madison, Strange, stunt bike rider,

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Speaker 2: all these guys started following me and the conversations happening.

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Speaker 2: And when I saw this picture of Don Draper from

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Speaker 2: mad Men, he was in a suit on a classic motorcycle.

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Speaker 2: It was a GQ photo shoot and I looked at

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Speaker 2: and I've gone, wow, what a great way to break

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Speaker 2: the stereotype that, you know, people that ride motorbikes are negative.

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Speaker 1: Sitting never the levers on the stripes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. And so I saw that picture and I've

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Speaker 2: got all right, well, let's create an event based around

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Speaker 2: going through the heart of each city that we can

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Speaker 2: globally and let's break that stereotype. Let's wave to people,

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Speaker 2: let's stop and let them cross, Let's just go and

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Speaker 2: show that there's a different side of motorcycling, that the

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Speaker 2: person behind that helmet could be your mum, your dad,

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Speaker 2: your boss, your mate. And I think people sort of

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Speaker 2: always tend to lose that connection with the motorcycle rider,

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Speaker 2: especially when they've got closed face helmets on. You can't

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Speaker 2: And so I thought, okay, well, let's try and motivate

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Speaker 2: helmets so that they can connect with the person that's riding.

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Speaker 2: And that first year we had sixty four rides in

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Speaker 2: fifteen countries, two and a half thousand riders. And I

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Speaker 2: remember back when George Street here in Sydney was open

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Speaker 2: to be able to drive or ride through. We rode

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Speaker 2: through and you could sort of sense this fear of

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Speaker 2: a person pushing the pram and they're being three hundred

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Speaker 2: you know, motorcycles making noises. But by the time that

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Speaker 2: to the night, it was getting their phones out recording

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. We had police clapping on the side

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Speaker 2: that sort of toxic masculinity the whole idea of prostate

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Speaker 2: answers and let them know it's a blood test. And

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Speaker 2: I thought, what a great way to sort of really

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Speaker 2: focusing on prostate cancer.

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Speaker 1: Can you get before I get onto the call it

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Speaker 1: the awareness and charitable side of what you do? Just

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Speaker 1: let's just wheel back a little bit. And what is

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Speaker 1: it about a motorcycle that is so attractive? Is it

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Speaker 1: the noise or is it the color of the thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are some people who have got themselves

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Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble describing motorcycles. I think it

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Speaker 1: been John Law. Sorry Laws, if I've just defamed you,

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Speaker 1: and if it wasn't you. But someone got in trouble

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Speaker 1: for describing motorcycles in a sexual sort of way. But

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Speaker 1: it probably is something to do with sexuality. But how

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Speaker 1: would you have would Mark Hower just describe the attraction

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Speaker 1: or some of the attractions of motorcycling? What is it

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Speaker 2: For me, it's a big red throbbing thing in between.

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Speaker 2: I'm joking. For me, I guess for me it came naturally.

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Speaker 2: I think there's probably a certain personality out there, irrespective

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Speaker 2: that if you were to do an audit on every

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Speaker 2: of ADHD involved. It's for me, it's personally being able

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Speaker 2: for me, that's what it is. I love going through

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Speaker 2: I love being able to block out everything that's happening

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Speaker 2: I drive to the office, I'm probably avoiding two or

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Speaker 2: you've had a disagreement with. It's just being purely focused.

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Speaker 2: And I think for a lot of men specifically, it

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Speaker 2: learning while we do this event, is that a lot

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Speaker 2: of these guys get into their thirties, they have families

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Speaker 2: kids grow up and turn eighteen, they go, okay, actually

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Speaker 2: don't have that friendship network, so that motorcycle is their escape,

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Speaker 2: it's their way to go for a ride, meet other

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Speaker 2: people down at Stanwill Tops on the way to Wollongong,

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Speaker 2: talk to people about motorbikes and start to develop those friendships. Again.

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Speaker 1: Is it's interesting I had a motorbike. I just think

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Speaker 1: about thinking back then, I had a Kawasaki. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember what size it was, but when I was in

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Speaker 1: I remember had an accident and I went over a curb,

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Speaker 1: a brick fence and I thought I broke my neck,

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Speaker 1: and fortunately I didn't. But but that's what I did.

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Speaker 1: I saw a bike because may father now and you

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Speaker 1: have to just change your lifestyle. And I've often thought

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Speaker 1: about getting another one again for my farm. So I

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Speaker 1: think I sort of sort of fit into your sort

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Speaker 1: of your into your category in terms of what was

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Speaker 1: I felt free, quite quite free on a motorbike. I

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Speaker 1: I felt as I can't really control it. As opposed

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Speaker 2: year in all these different cities and countries, that's great.

434
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Speaker 2: But people are becoming friends at these events, and they're

435
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Speaker 2: creating their own motorcycle groups and they call it, you know,

436
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: the Dapper Riders of San Diego or whatever it may be,

437
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: and they're riding all year round. And I think for

438
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Speaker 2: me during COVID, when we're all feeling a little bit lonely,

439
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: it took one year of having to do it as

440
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: a solo ride and sort of changing the strategy to being, hey, guys,

441
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: we're riding solo but together globally to sit there and

442
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: realize the importance of bringing people together in a physical

443
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Speaker 2: environment that's.

444
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Speaker 1: Very interesting solo and together, because motorcycle riding is a

445
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Speaker 1: solo event unless you've got someone on the back of it,

446
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: or you've got a pill in passenger but anderally speaking,

447
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: motorcycle riding, you are by yourself. It is sort of lonely.

448
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: You're not not somewhere doing okay and have a conversation

449
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 1: with somebody. But at the same time you can be

450
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: solo but in a group or as part of a community.

451
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: It worked really well. It worked really well.

452
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: And you stop and you know, you stop at the

453
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 1: coffee shop or wherever you stop, go camping or whatever

454
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: the case may be, and then you hang out with

455
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: each other and then you get back on your bike,

456
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: which is the best of both worlds. Yeah, and connectivity

457
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: is really important from a point of view of you know,

458
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: we're hearing about it all the time these days. A

459
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: really important from the point of view of health, your

460
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Speaker 1: mental health, your physical health, and therefore your physical health

461
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Speaker 1: and also your lifespan. I mean, because it's if you

462
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: just sort of sit in the corner somewhere and every

463
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Speaker 1: morning get it, ride your bike on your own, and

464
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: then you come back and put it back in the

465
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Speaker 1: garage or whatever, and then go back to watching footy

466
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: on your own and not seeing anybody. That's a bad,

467
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: bad deal, but you're sort of bringing them most out

468
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: of people. The best out of people by connecting everybody.

469
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Speaker 1: So this connectivity is pretty cool. Let's just go back now.

470
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Speaker 1: I don't want to start a prostate cancer why. I mean,

471
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Speaker 1: it was interesting when you're sitting on a motorbike all

472
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: the time, I think of PROSTA straight away. But why

473
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: prostate cancer? What was it that inspired you to talk

474
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: about or think about prostate cancer? Is someone?

475
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get this question a lot, but it's never

476
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 2: been the case. I don't know anyone personally back then

477
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: when I started that had prostate cancer. But I've never

478
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: been wired to only support causes that have affected me personally.

479
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: It's always been what can we do to help everyone?

480
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: And when we connected with the Prostate Cancer Foundation, I

481
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: just thought, you know, it's true, a lot of guys

482
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: still think it's a digital exam. A lot of guys

483
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: are still nervous to go to the doctor and have

484
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: that conversation with them.

485
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: Is that true that like still today?

486
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Speaker 2: It's changing, It's definitely changing, and I think what we've done,

487
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: especially in the motorcycle community globally is changed that as well,

488
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: especially across all the different countries that we're in. So

489
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 2: you know, it's getting easier for us to do what

490
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Speaker 2: we do, and we somehow have become more so a

491
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: bit of a reminder for these guys. Once every year

492
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: they'll go get their their digital not digital check, but

493
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: their blood tests, their blood tests done, and so that's

494
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: cool as well. And I think when you sort of

495
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: look back in the early days when I first started

496
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: Gentlemen's Right, it was really trying to figure out what

497
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: we do. And for me, it wasn't meant to be

498
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 2: a full time job. It was let's build this up

499
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: and let's actually give this to a charity or someone

500
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: that knows how to operate this better than I do.

501
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: We didn't have a blueprint. We had to create that

502
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: blueprint which now other organizations use. And there was a

503
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: guy in ken that sort of gave me a phone

504
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 2: call and said, hey, if it wasn't it few, I

505
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't be alive. Yeah, And he told me that story,

506
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: and like, I still get shivers every time I think

507
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: about that story, because that was the emotional blackmail for

508
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: me to continue doing this. And we get those calls

509
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 2: on a sort of weekly basis now in emails and

510
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: nice messages from their families and friends. So there was

511
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: no specific reason apart from the fact that I thought,

512
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: let's break this toxic mass galinity within motorcycle riding. I'm

513
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: not a very masculine dude. I don't have tattoos, I

514
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: don't want leather vests. That's not my vibe. But let's

515
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: break that sort of image of it. But then let's

516
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: also start to break down the guys that are taking

517
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 2: part in the ride. And let's get these guys talking.

518
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: And I remember, you know, we meet up a lot

519
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 2: of the time at Harry's Cafe to wheels, and I

520
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: remember a few years ago two guys talking about testicular

521
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 2: cancer and having their testicles removed. And these were two

522
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: guys that didn't even know each other. And I'm just

523
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: in there going, fuck, you know what. That wouldn't be

524
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: a conversation that I heard ten years ago. There's no

525
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: chance I would have heard that conversation. But now these

526
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: two strangers are talking about an issue that they've connected with.

527
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: And that's the importance for me about what we do.

528
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: It's having those conversations.

529
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Speaker 1: So does your website what is your website?

530
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Speaker 2: It's Gentlemen's Ride dot com.

531
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Speaker 1: Genlemen's Right dot com. Does your website have like educational stuff?

532
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: On it.

533
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: Definitely maybe some neurologists up there talking, yeah.

534
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: It's done. It's got a heap of information on there,

535
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: and then obviously on top of that, it's also got

536
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: a list of all the different programs that we fund

537
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: and all the different programs we have funded. There's been

538
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: some interesting ones that we've funded testing, but we really

539
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: sort of work with November to determine what's the best

540
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: way of utilizing these funds. And the beautiful thing about

541
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: how we structured it from day one, even with the

542
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: Prostate Cancil Foundation is I was always nervous about a

543
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: double dipping in the administration fee, so we always made

544
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: sure that so basically, we need to take some money

545
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: to run the events. We've got costs, insurance, the physical

546
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: costs of every single event. But I was scared that

547
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 2: any sort of charity that we partnered with would then

548
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: take an administration fee to manage the programs. Started to

549
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: do we don't allow We don't allow it.

550
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: No, you don't, but charities can one percent. We can

551
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: take it up. I come over, it is up to

552
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: thirty forty.

553
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: Besides, I don't think there's any clear cut line. But

554
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: the way that I looked at it was, Hey, if

555
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: we're doing all the work to raise this money, then

556
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: we want one hundred percent of what we give them

557
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: to go specifically towards research these programs. And November was

558
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: stoked with that. They're absolutely fine with that. And the

559
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: November guys have been super supportive over the last nine

560
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: years and I'm really excited to do something super cool

561
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: with them next year.

562
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Speaker 1: Ten years. It has the money that you raised over

563
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: the last say ten years that have through November have

564
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: gone into prostate cancer research. Has that research yielded anything

565
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: like specifically, like some breakthrough.

566
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: N They're still working on it. Yeah, And that's the thing.

567
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: These programs are long program Some of these programs take

568
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: ten years, twenty years. And to be fair, some of

569
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: the programs, and I hate to say it, but it's

570
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter. What you win out of

571
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: doing that program is you find out that it wasn't

572
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: the right program, but they share that knowledge internationally. There's

573
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: no intellectual property being built, so it stopped someone else

574
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: from going down that path, and it blocks that path

575
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: and starts to open new paths.

576
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: Because it's all about trial and error, trialing error, but.

577
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: No intellectual property. And that was something that we specified

578
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: from the start as well.

579
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: So I presume though there's sort of medical publications about

580
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: their findings or.

581
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: Defe and again all on the website. An ADI page read.

582
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: Though, Wow, that's cool. But so if someone's actually really

583
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: in getting into the weeds about prosta cancer and the

584
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: researcher prostate cancer, if they get onto your website, they

585
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: can actually start to get a bit more familiar with it.

586
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: In league, say, prosta cancers, by the way, as we know,

587
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: is not limited to people my age over sixty five,

588
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: but you know, there's a lot of younger people get

589
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: prosta cancer at all sorts of ages, probably more skewed

590
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: to my end of the age group or my cohort

591
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: of people. It does. You know, there's an old adage

592
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: you don't die from prostay cancer, you die with prostate cancer,

593
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: which is it doesn't help the urgency of knowing more

594
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: about it because people go all there for it's it's

595
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: such a big problem. But I've got friends, you know

596
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: who have died from prostate cancer.

597
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so do I and friends that have been younger. Yeah,

598
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: and especially with a family history, it's typically it's forty

599
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: in Australia, it's forty five and over to get tested, right,

600
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: and if you've got a family history, it's forty. But

601
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: people definitely do die from prostate cancer, and you're right,

602
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: it is scary because it gives them this confidence that

603
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: it's okay. But there's other issues as well, I mean

604
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: around sort of erections and stuff like that. That you get

605
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: prostate cancer and you may have this side effect from

606
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: having your prostate removed, that the depression is there and

607
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: the mental health aspect starts to kick in as well.

608
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: Now that that's a real important point because I'm not

609
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: going to beat around the bush on this one. So

610
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: if you get prosa cancer and for some reason you

611
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: have to have removed and assuming it has a mostessticized

612
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: into your system, but in other words, they could get

613
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: it and they could take the whole thing out. One

614
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: of the really important issues around prostate is that on

615
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: the outside of the process a lot of very important nerves,

616
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: but you can't really see them, and those nerves connect

617
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: to your penis and if those nerves get damaged, then

618
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: you unlikely for a long period of time to be

619
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: able to get an erection that in turn can lead

620
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: to depending on your age and your circumstances that can

621
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: actually lead to depression. Yeah, it's a big deal. And

622
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: as a result of that, someone might she end up

623
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: top on themselves because of depression. It could be even

624
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: worse outcome.

625
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: We did a story. We did a story a few

626
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: years ago and you know, I guess we operate very

627
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: differently and where we're not as cautious as a charity

628
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: typically needs to be because of how we are. But

629
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: we did a story about one of our mates in

630
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: Perth that had to literally go and get an injection

631
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: in his penis whenever he wanted to have sex with

632
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: his with his missus. And we did that story and

633
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: we had a lot of people sort of come back

634
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: to us going, oh, you know, it was too much information.

635
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: Were like, no, fuck it is. This is the situation.

636
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: And what we're able to do is not have to

637
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: go around and get approval from a board to share

638
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: this story. We're just going to share it. And I

639
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: think that's why we sort of are able to do

640
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: what we do and share this true information and these situations.

641
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: And yeah, it might be uncomfortable to read, it might

642
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: be uncomfortable to watch some of the video content that

643
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: we do, but you fucking remember it and you go

644
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: and get impact and you know that there are other

645
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: side effects as a result of it, which is something

646
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: that I feel people are too scared to talk about

647
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: because everyone wants to be politically correct or not be

648
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: seen as sharing something that's too personal. But the guys

649
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: that we interview, the people that want to share their stories,

650
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: they're really lovely people that want other people not to

651
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: have to go down the same path that that went down.

652
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: And I think, and I actually think the prostate thing

653
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: is quite is quite overwhelming. I don't know what it

654
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: is with guys us guys, whether or not it's sort

655
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: of so close to the family jewels that you know,

656
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: like to some extent, we identify with ourselves with you know,

657
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: being able to get a direction being a bloke sort

658
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: of thing, you know what I mean, Whether you're homosexual

659
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: or hetero sexual, doesn't really matter any other format that

660
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: you might choose to be, and it's irrespective. It is

661
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: a big deal, and it probably is a big deal

662
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: for women to have this, you know, the equivalent when

663
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: it comes to their uterus, et cetera. But with a

664
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: bloke it's a big deal and we do it largely

665
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: maybe rightly wrong. It doesn't really matter. A lot of

666
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: us do identify with our sexuality and our ability to

667
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, to I am up at the important time,

668
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: and prostate has a fucking massive effect on that massively,

669
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: and not luca, which is just, for example, stupid stuff

670
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: like getting up three times night in the middle of

671
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: the night. When you get to a certain age, you

672
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: start realize the importance of the prostate relative to everything

673
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: to do with the old fella, not your sex.

674
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, just taking a piss and like you sort of

675
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: touched on something that I don't know if you intended it,

676
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: but it affects women as well, I mean relationships I

677
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: don't And that's why I sort of you know, even

678
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: though it's called the Distinguished German's Ride, we get so

679
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: many females participating, Like ten percent of our ride hosts

680
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: are females.

681
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: We got sons, brothers, husbands, partners, and or they're just

682
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: aware and equally canfect their lives too, because if their partner,

683
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: for for argument's sake, or their brother or sister or

684
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: kid guess that gets that drama, you know, has a

685
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, go for bid cancer in the prostate, then

686
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: they're wearing it. Too. Everyone suffers from this. If I

687
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: could just flip over then to mental health to something extent,

688
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: they're connected to these two things. Is it true that

689
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: Australia has an inordinate amount of suicides male suicides relatific rest.

690
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: Of the world, Well, it's typically three out of four

691
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: in Australia, so three out of four people that take

692
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: their own lives at male. So it is an issue here,

693
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: but it is consistent globally. It's definitely consistent globally, and

694
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: that's something that we've sort of seen. I don't know

695
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: what research has been done, but the conversations that we

696
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: have and what we see through our own audience. As

697
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 2: you can imagine, when you've got one hundred and fifteen

698
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand people taking part in your event,

699
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: you get to you know, you get to meet a

700
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 2: lot of people and you get to see the issues

701
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: and unfortunately you'll also deal with that side of it

702
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: as well, when they've decided that they don't want to

703
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: be here anymore. And typically in our world, and I

704
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: guess you know, you can sit there and say it's

705
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: biased because it is generally men that right, motorcycles not

706
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: discounting females, but typically I think men are just a

707
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: little bit more loose when it comes to taking the

708
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: risks associated.

709
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: With more smarter about risk.

710
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean it's great to see that there's

711
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: less smart women writing about cycles. No, but it's cool

712
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: to see that it's catching up. But it's not a

713
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: podcast about gender equality. It is this is what it is.

714
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: But we see in our world that it's more men

715
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: on a global scale.

716
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: And what is it that your movement is trying to

717
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: say about men's mental health?

718
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: Well, we know for a fact that if we can

719
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: get men speaking about these issues, we can keep them

720
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: here for longer. And that's the key. But the key

721
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: party is also being able to figure out ways to

722
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: educate their partners, their friends, their workplaces, and looking at

723
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: programs that teach people how to ask that second question.

724
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: So you're going to ask the first question? That is

725
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: the first question? Just am I depressed? I mean that

726
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: is that the first question.

727
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: It's more so when one of your mates approaches you

728
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: and wants to open about themselves, and like a lot

729
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 2: of times, it's difficult for us guys to really especially

730
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: an older generation, to really open up about what you're

731
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: feeling in front of your mates. But the issue that we.

732
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Speaker 1: See into a bit Mike, is that because we don't

733
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: say my generation, we don't typically think it's cool to

734
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: talk about Or is it because we just don't know

735
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: how we're feeling. We don't realize we're feeling depressed.

736
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 2: I think. I mean, listen, I can't speak for your generation,

737
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: I can speak for mine. But I think there's always

738
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: this masculinity with us as guys, and I think that's

739
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: never going to cease. And I think the issue is

740
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: when people don't talk about things. And yes, we're getting

741
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: better at it. You can see over the last ten

742
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: years there's a lot of different campaigns about this. But

743
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: typically if you went up to your man, go oh yeah, man,

744
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm feeling shit. I'm feeling really down. The second the

745
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: second question, there needs to be a question. But what

746
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: happens now is you've got this answer. It's like, oh,

747
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 2: you'll be okay. Oh let's go have a beer, let's

748
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: go watch the footy. It's not delving deeper into that conversation.

749
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: And that's what we need to do as guys is

750
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: be equipped with the information to be able to sit

751
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: there and ask that second question, ask that third question,

752
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: have a proper conversation.

753
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: What's the second question. Say someone approached me and says

754
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: that what should I don't know? What should I say?

755
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: It's being able to talk openly about it. I mean,

756
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: there's more resources on our website, and they do differ

757
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: from country to country, but typically it's being able to know,

758
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: using open and closed end questions to get certain answers

759
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: that you want to get, and then being able to

760
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: sort of sit there and support them, whether it's taken

761
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: them to give them the phone number for Lifeline, which

762
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: is a fantastic one for Australia, and making sure that

763
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: you're catching up with them along the way. It's not

764
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: just oh shit, that was an awkward conversation. I'm not

765
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: going to ask him about it again in a week.

766
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: And if you jump on our website, there's resources based

767
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: around that as well, but it very much differs depending

768
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: on what the situation is.

769
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Speaker 1: So so I think that's important, Mike. There's that your

770
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: website has resources because like someone like me, I mean,

771
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: I'm five a podcast. I mean I talk to people

772
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: all the time, but I never had this and no

773
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: one's ever actually said it to me, and I be honestly,

774
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: I wouldn't actually know. Really, I'd be prepared to listen,

775
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: but I really wouldn't know what questions to ask. So

776
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: that's interesting. You see, your website will prompt me and

777
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: give me resource.

778
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: There's lots of prompts on that website because I don't

779
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: even remember half the stuff that weak.

780
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's important because like just I'm not suggesting

781
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: people got to go rush the website right now and

782
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: start learning. But the fact that it's a bit like

783
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: it's a manual. You know, there's something wrong with the car,

784
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: I can go to the manually going to have a

785
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 1: look at what the problem is, and I can maybe

786
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: a diagnos of myself and maybe work out I can

787
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: help to a certain fixed to a certain point, after

788
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: which I could sent off to a repairer. The same

789
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: I think applies to this conversation. If someone actually does

790
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: say something to you better and you know, got for

791
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: a bid of one of your kids. For example, my

792
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: kids are all adults. I've been able to sort of

793
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: a recognize and be asked the question and then know

794
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: what other things to do and as resources. So I

795
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: think your website resource is extraordinarily important. Lifeline as you say,

796
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: is a great It's a great organization. Fantastic organization. It's funny. Now,

797
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: the other day someone knocked at my door at my

798
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: house and when I opened the door, she was just

799
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: standing there and it was a female and just staring

800
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: at me. And I didn't I had no idea what

801
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: to do. I said, what can help me? She just

802
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: said she couldn't talk to me, she couldn't speak, and

803
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: then she was just lost for words. She was sort

804
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: of completely confused, and I didn't know what to do.

805
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: So I thought who And then she would leave, and

806
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: then she kept wanting to come in, and I said, look,

807
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to learn it to come in,

808
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: I thought, But I said, well, can I get you

809
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: a cup of tea or some water or something, you know?

810
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: And then the thought that came from my mind, first

811
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: thing to do is I should ring lifeline, and I

812
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: ring Lifeline, and I put them on the loudspeaker and

813
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: we went through a whole series of questions with the lady,

814
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: et cetera, which I found extraordinarily and I've never had

815
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: to do this before, but I found extraordinarily helpful in

816
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: a situation where I was completely dumbfounded, and I felt

817
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: so stupid after it, and now having this conversation with

818
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: you speaking about you know, if somebody said to me

819
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: made of Mind or whatever staff member that are, they're

820
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: feeling down, that I think I would be equally dumbfounded,

821
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: and that I wouldn't know what not, I would not

822
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: know where to go. And I think your website, now

823
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: you've told me about it, that's your awareness to me,

824
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: that's really important, not only about prostate cancer, but this

825
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: mental health issue. I don't want to steal from the

826
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: fun of the event by being getting too heavy. So

827
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: what are some of the more entertaining things you've seen?

828
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Because you mean, I say, I dare say you travel

829
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: around the world to each of the event, each of

830
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: the places that hold your event or collaborate with you

831
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: on the event, and you said you're going to Mexico

832
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: this year and a week so's time. What are some

833
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: of the more colorful things you've seen.

834
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: I think every event's got it's funny, every event's got

835
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 2: its own flair, I guess. But the beautiful thing about

836
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: it is it's consistent across every single event because we

837
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: do have guidelines that all these people must follow and

838
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: I've been lucky enough, you know, early on to go

839
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: I've created something bigger than me. I've created something that's

840
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: probably gonna last longer than me, hopefully, and own it's

841
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: on the same day globally, so every single ride happens

842
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: on the same day, which this year is May nineteen,

843
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: and so I only get to go to one event.

844
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: And so for me, it's like I've been able to

845
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: do La New York, Milan, and I think the funniest

846
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: one that I've probably done is Milan, where the Italian

847
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: police officers are very passionate about the distinguished gentlemen's right

848
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: and they sort of group all the riders together and

849
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: it rides as one bigoneourage, which we can't do here

850
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: in Australia, I think, probably from religious perspective. And I

851
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: remember we're going over this highway and they literally stopped

852
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: the on ramps on the highway because they decided that

853
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: they're going to do a regroup on this massive highway

854
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: in Milan. And then one of the one of the

855
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: guys in the car that needed to get somewhere, hopefully

856
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: it wasn't an emergency, started beeping the horn and just

857
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: seeing a police officer go over there and ittain and

858
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: just swear it in. Basically say beep your horn again.

859
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to throw you in jail. To be fair.

860
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: Was a bit of a moment where I was like,

861
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: is this actually happening. This would not happen anywhere else

862
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: around the world. But we get a lot of support.

863
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 2: I mean, we get a lot of support from police.

864
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: And I mean, I know people like to sort of

865
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: talk bad about the New York Police officers, but our

866
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: experience is good with them. They closed off Brooklyn Bridge

867
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: for us. They ride their motorbikes one hundred and fifty

868
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: kilometers an hour on the correct lane to be able

869
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: to get back in front, and it's just cool being

870
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: able to see that support. We had this one photo

871
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: that came through and as you can imagine, with this

872
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: many rides, you get a lot of photography that we

873
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: have to sort of go through. And there was this

874
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: one photo where the one rider and one police officer

875
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: and there was a photo of them next to each

876
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: other on their motorcycles, and the photos they swapped motorcycles.

877
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: So the police officer was on this cool custom cafe

878
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: so and the guy that was dressed in a suit

879
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: was riding this police motorcycle and that's probably one of

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00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: my favorite photos from the last thirteen years of the

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00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: Distinguished Gentleman's Ride. And what about it in terms of

882
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: get up, Oh, you get some wild outfits. I mean

883
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: early days there were people that were sort of dressing

884
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: up more in a sort of festive way, like they're

885
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: dressed up like the Queen or something like that. But

886
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: I think they quickly realized that it's you know, it's

887
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: not about being someone else, it's just about being yourself.

888
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: And so you see, I mean especially I mean I've

889
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: got to go back to Italy. I mean they dress

890
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: really fucking well. Wow. I sort of sit there and

891
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't even think I can't pull this off. And like,

892
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: to be fair, I don't even like wearing suits. Everyone

893
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: always expects me to go into meetings and be dressed

894
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: in a suit, and you know, I'm sitting there in

895
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: leopard shorts with a T shirt on, and I'm like

896
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: that one day year I'm going to get dressed up,

897
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: and one day year I'll put the suit on. And

898
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: then you know, from there, we decided to do the

899
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 2: Distinguished Gentleman's Drive. So it's now two days a year

900
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: that I'll wear a shit that's in a car. Yeah,

901
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: that's classic cars. Yeah, that's at the end of September.

902
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: And that's cool as well seeing that grow and sort

903
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: of being able to reinvigorate myself by adding another event

904
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: to that world. But some of the outfits, Yeah, it's

905
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: how do I say it, it's sexier. I mean, if

906
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: you look at the people that follow us online, I

907
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: mean it's you know, it's probably half females and half males.

908
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, the males of watching it

909
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: for the motorcycles and the females watching it for the

910
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: guys dressed in sits on the motorcycles.

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00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. I Actually you don't hear many people

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00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: say something is sexy anymore, like as an event or

913
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: like using it to sort of explain a group or

914
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: a group event or a collaboration. That's a pretty cool good.

915
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: Word to use. People are just scared to use it.

916
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: That's probably true too, but because I mean so many

917
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: different things to different people. But it is actually quite

918
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: a good word to use in relationship. I think it

919
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: is very attractive. It may be sexy, is whatever attractive,

920
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: like extraordinarily attractive, like to me really interesting to me.

921
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: It's sort of really adventurous to me, sort of eye catching.

922
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, we see a lot of motorcycles all together,

923
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: not just the sort of seeing them all gathered together,

924
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: but also the noise and the color of the bikes.

925
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you're a lot of shiny bikes, like

926
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, like crime and all sort of stuff. So

927
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: it has like light, color, movement, everything going for it.

928
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Speaker 1: I think it's really cool and so I wish all

929
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: the best on the nineteenth, particularly in Mexico. Please be

930
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: safe Mexico's crazy joint. I no doubt you're going to

931
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Speaker 1: get looked looked after over there. And thanks what you

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Speaker 1: do for Australians and other men around the world in

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Speaker 1: terms of building awareness, particularly around for me, mental health

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00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: and process cancer are two really important issues in my world,

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Speaker 1: so I appreciate it. Thanks for much, Mark or congratulations.