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Speaker 2: Coming up on this episode. I've been ripped off by

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Speaker 2: a local cafeine. I'm not happy about it. You may

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Speaker 2: have seen the video on the internet earlyer this week.

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Speaker 2: Britney's got a few questions about the situation, and I've

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Speaker 2: got some questions for her as well.

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Speaker 1: Plus, I have finally watched a show that everyone has

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Speaker 1: already watched years ago.

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Speaker 3: I feel and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Better late than never, And I share my thoughts on

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Speaker 1: some of the juicy sex scenes in the show, and

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Speaker 1: there is a lot.

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Speaker 2: Plus are you a good person? We have the ultimate

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Speaker 2: test and Britney's kind of shocked by my answer. I'm

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Speaker 2: not surprised by hers.

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Speaker 1: Though, and are we making a smash hit song song

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Speaker 2: Baby, Yes, I feel like we.

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Speaker 3: Need to make it happen. Anyway, we discuss it, deal

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Speaker 3: Meian Dole, Let's go, Matt.

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Speaker 1: You've got something to tell us.

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Speaker 2: Why what do I have to tell you?

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Speaker 1: I saw something on your I think your TikTok and

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Speaker 1: your story on the weekend, and I need to know, okay,

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Speaker 1: because I'm not sure if it like I couldn't believe

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Speaker 1: that it was true, So I need to know if

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Speaker 1: you will making it up or not. Apparently you went

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Speaker 1: somewhere and they were charging twelve dollars twenty for an

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Speaker 1: ice ice moocker was.

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Speaker 2: An icemocker on oat milk, but the oat milk was

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Speaker 2: only eighty cents. Yeah right, if you okay? Yeah no,

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm glad you brought this up

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Speaker 2: actually because you obviously own a cafe. So I want

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Speaker 2: me a different perspective. So scrollers, if you didn't see

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Speaker 2: the other day, I went to go get a coffee.

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Speaker 2: I went to get an iced mocker at a cafe

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Speaker 2: and she said twelve dollars twenty and I thought, oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, that's like a lot of money for an

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Speaker 2: iced coffee, right, And then I said, well, how much

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Speaker 2: I was thinking that was around five dollars. And then

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Speaker 2: she's like, it's five twenty for a hot mocker, and

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Speaker 2: so that's a seven dollar difference between a hot coffee

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Speaker 2: and an iced version, and you know, a million things

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Speaker 2: there could be some costs here, like because I know,

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Speaker 2: you know, when I used to work at a cafe,

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Speaker 2: we definitely charged more for an ice latte. But it

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Speaker 2: was like two dollars more, which I which I still

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Speaker 2: whatever two dollars I can, let's slide seven dollars difference

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Speaker 2: as well, you know it's less work to do an

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Speaker 2: And I asked her whether there were two shots in

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Speaker 2: are they different sizes? She said no, they're exactly the

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Speaker 2: same ones just iced. So seven dollars doesn't make sense

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Speaker 2: in my mind. But you own a cafe, so you

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Speaker 2: let me know whether am I justified in my seven

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Speaker 2: dollar outrage TikTok that I made. I didn't call them out,

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Speaker 2: I didn't mention them, but I made a TikTok about

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Speaker 2: my frustration or are you like, no, I can justify

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Speaker 2: why they've done that.

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Speaker 1: I can't justify it being like seven dollars more. It's

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Speaker 1: just a given that ice drinks are more than hot drinks,

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Speaker 1: But there's no like definite reason as to why that's

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Speaker 1: literally just the way that it is in cafes. So

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Speaker 1: I'm fully with you on your argument of like, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really make sense that they're a different price at all.

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Speaker 1: The cups definitely would be slightly different costs, like, especially

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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, sorry to interject, but just to

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Speaker 3: I got my I won't even get in a cart.

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Speaker 2: No, So I mean that also doesn't take into account.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, I go on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just one of those things.

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Speaker 1: And I remember when we were doing our pricing for

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Speaker 1: cafes around Newcastle, like what everyone charges for everything, and

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Speaker 1: you'll just notice that every cafe does charge more for

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Speaker 1: an ice. You're right, there's no extra work because you're

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Speaker 1: I'd say, the only thing is like there's a lot

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Speaker 1: People are like, oh, ice is free, but like you

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Speaker 1: have no idea how much those ice machines are and

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Speaker 1: how much it costs to run those ice machines because

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Speaker 1: they're running twenty four seven. Yeah, but even then, like

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Speaker 1: that's not the reason why you're putting the price up.

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Speaker 1: That's just the way that it is. Like an ice

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Speaker 1: But I can't understand why they would be charging twelve

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Speaker 2: Two bucks more I kind of understand because if I

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Speaker 2: if you heat the milk, obviously the milk expands. You know,

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Speaker 2: heat the milk, it obviously expands. So you're using I

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Speaker 2: guess less milk for a regular moka, right hot moka.

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Speaker 2: But I guess with the iced version, like you're using

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Speaker 2: expand as much. That's the only reason that I can

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Speaker 2: justify that extra two dollars yep, bus seven.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't understand that at all.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I don't want to know.

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Speaker 1: Our price is off the top of my head, like

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Speaker 1: I think out hot coffees, Yeah, five dollars fifty or something,

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Speaker 1: and then I think the ice is six dollars fifty

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Speaker 3: A dollar or two dollars more at most.

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Speaker 2: Which is fair because of the milk situation, and the

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Speaker 1: We're getting a straw and like we use these bamboo straws,

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Speaker 1: which are like they never go soggy. Like there's all

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Speaker 1: these little costs that come into it, but it's just

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Speaker 3: Is it the ice drinks and more?

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Speaker 1: But twelve dollars twenty surely fucking not. I think you're

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Speaker 1: the actual fucking difference is, because like, did she not

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Speaker 1: know what she was talking about? And was she thinking

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Speaker 1: that you were asking for an iced coffee which then

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Speaker 3: To know the details.

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Speaker 1: Or was it genuinely an ice fucking moker with no

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Speaker 2: I mean, she had one of those screens that shows me,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, and it said ice mocker. So if it's

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Speaker 2: got all that other stuff in it, surely it would

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Speaker 2: be called a frappe or like a you.

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Speaker 1: Know, or maybe their ice mocker does have like whipped

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Speaker 2: Right, Well that's what someone said, Like people said in

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Speaker 2: the comments, Well maybe it's got ice cream in it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's what they do.

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Speaker 2: I said, well, first of all, I've ordered it on

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Speaker 2: oat milk, so you shouldn't be putting ice cream in mind.

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Speaker 1: So true, people like can I have an oat oh

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Speaker 1: ice mocker or like ice coffee kind of thing, But

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Speaker 1: then there's a big dollar for fucking dairy ice cream

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Speaker 2: So I'm pretty sure I've also from memory, I've had

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Speaker 2: coffees from this place before, and I don't recall ever

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Speaker 3: Literally, you're gonna have to go back, and I think

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Speaker 3: I'm going to have to do.

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Speaker 2: Because I woke up this morning to emails from the

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Speaker 2: you know, the Daily Mail and seven News and things

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Speaker 2: saying we want to do a story on Investigate. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so now I'm gonna turn into this whole big thing

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Speaker 2: and I might have to go and Coffee Gate. I

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Speaker 2: definitely plan to go back, because the thing is people,

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that I am, but one

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Speaker 2: thing I ain't is a liar, and I hate you

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Speaker 2: need to prove it, like you know how Like I'm

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Speaker 2: always like I don't care what anyone says about me.

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Speaker 2: If you call me a liar and I am telling

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Speaker 2: put on that video, like so many other comments are

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Speaker 2: like this can't be real, Like surely you've exaggerated this.

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Speaker 2: You actually messaged me.

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Speaker 1: And said is this Yeah, You're gonna have to go back.

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Speaker 1: I wish I live closer because I'd come with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And I haven't named them yet, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether i'll name them in that next

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Speaker 2: video because I don't want to, like maybe we should.

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Speaker 1: Like what don't we genuinely reach out to them and

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Speaker 1: ask them, like genuinely, where do you get off?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that they'll it's a cafe in

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Speaker 2: the eastern suburbs. I think they'll survive. But also I think,

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Speaker 2: like the reason I'm not the reason I want to

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Speaker 2: say their name is not to expose them or be

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Speaker 2: like we're calling them out, but it's because people don't

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Speaker 2: believe me. I'm like to justify like the truth behind

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Speaker 2: the video. I'm like, do I have to be like

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Speaker 2: this is where it is and this is how much

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Speaker 2: it comes.

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Speaker 1: Whether you don't need to say the name, but if

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Speaker 1: you go there and get this that too, like buy

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Speaker 1: a normal mocker and buy the ice one and then

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Speaker 1: like just show the screen. If it says the price,

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Speaker 1: I'll show your receipt and then show the products side

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Speaker 1: by side.

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Speaker 3: Then people will believe you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm going to do that tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: I might upload it tomorrow. So maybe, scrollers, if you're listening,

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Speaker 2: that video will be up today on the tikto.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to do it because I genuinely want

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Speaker 1: to know too, like I want.

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Speaker 2: To see this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, so please go back there you figure it out. Wow, Okay, Sorry,

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Speaker 2: this conversation isn't done, scrollers. We just took a little

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Speaker 2: coffee and water, right, ice long black that's seven dollars,

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Speaker 1: So this is a fucking full blown investigation. Now you've

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: In other news, I don't know if you watch my stories,

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I have.

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Speaker 3: Finally watched Bridgeton Finally.

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Speaker 2: It's been a journey for the last couple weeks for you,

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Speaker 1: Like I love a fucking dress up me too. Can

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Speaker 3: What happened to fig?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to that, duarlingg I'm doing I'm doing

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Speaker 4: So we've got to We've got to do something that

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Speaker 3: You're so inclusive.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking of everyone.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter anyway, You're okay, So you're going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh so the thirtieth I'm thinking of. I saw

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Speaker 2: like it wasn't neon, but it was something neat. The

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, So it's not neon as in

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Speaker 2: like aerobic swear and like eighties neon. No, it's like

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Speaker 3: Like parties was like tight and bright. Yeah, arties like that.

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Speaker 2: So it's those colors, but cature. You know, you're wearing

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Speaker 2: And then I thought I could do something fun, like

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Speaker 2: But so what made you fall in love with it? Hmm?

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Speaker 2: Well? Sky watches Bridgeton too, and I'm just thinking to myself,

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Speaker 2: Because every time he's got it on, every time he's

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Speaker 4: Because every time someone's naked, they're in bed, they're in

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Speaker 1: Can I say when it comes to watching sex scenes

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Speaker 2: When you're alone, Yes, I want to say him.

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Speaker 1: But then I also start thinking, man, this must have

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Speaker 3: How awkward for them to be doing this and they're.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all, But I do think about all

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Speaker 3: But like, do the guys get a boner? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Surely, surely, That's what I.

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Speaker 2: But also, as you said, you got fifty crew watching you.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you could, like if you were given

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Should I? I don't give a guy

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Speaker 1: It depends because they do it really well, like in Bridgeton,

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Speaker 1: Like they're very intense sex scenes in Bridgeton, which.

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Speaker 2: Is probably why the show is so popular.

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Speaker 3: You reckon, that's why? Yeah, Oh no, I just loved it.

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Speaker 2: Well, now I'm off thinking about me doing a sex scene.

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Speaker 2: What that would look like because I'm going and you know,

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Speaker 2: Is that male female? What's going on? You know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? Like, Okay, you're an actor, You've got to

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Speaker 1: If you had to choose, which one do you think

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Speaker 3: I'm really making you thinking no.

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Speaker 2: See. It also depends on the money. Yeah, yeah, and

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Speaker 2: it is, I'm giving it a red hot guy. You

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Speaker 1: Medical for you? You're not getting paid anything at all.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, you're doing it for free. But it's going

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Speaker 2: I don't work for exposure, so reexposure, don't pay the bills.

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Speaker 1: But what if it's like the next Titanic?

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Speaker 2: Too bad, I won't do it, potentially going to lead

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Speaker 2: was going to be the next Titanic until after I'd

439
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,520
Speaker 2: done it. No one can guarantee.

440
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Speaker 1: He's another one of those hypotheticals that we were talking

441
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,399
Speaker 1: about the other week, like what if you didn't know

442
00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,879
Speaker 1: when you turn it down, then it turned out to

443
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,159
Speaker 1: be the number one movie, Well.

444
00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,159
Speaker 2: Then my life stays the same. It's like the million

445
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,880
Speaker 2: billion dollar question, isn't it from our Close Friends episode?

446
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,600
Speaker 2: But true? True, yeah, because like I feel like I've

447
00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,320
Speaker 2: had my time of doing things for exposure and that

448
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,200
Speaker 2: no longer at this point in my life is something

449
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,680
Speaker 2: you know, Oh, go and do this and it could

450
00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,680
Speaker 2: lead to other opportunities. Nah, unless you've got a check

451
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 2: dulling signed the dotted line and pay me my money.

452
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm not doing anything. And I believe that's how everyone

453
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 2: should work.

454
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 3: Yes, no one should do anything for free.

455
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 1: Like for example, we had like I did this call

456
00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 1: out in our Fate Society Facebook group because we're wanting

457
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 1: to include customers in our content more and we I said,

458
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Speaker 1: I'm looking for a customer in Melbourne who has shopped

459
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Speaker 1: in store with us before. We want to create a

460
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Speaker 1: content piece on you, just a testimonial thing, and the like,

461
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 1: we had.

462
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 3: Heaps people reply saying me, me, me, me me.

463
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 1: And like we didn't want to get someone in and

464
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 1: like make a video with them and then like that's

465
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 1: it kind of thing. And I remember I said to

466
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 1: this customer who came in we film the video. I

467
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,439
Speaker 1: was like, you can have five hundred bucks worth of stuff,

468
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 1: like it's it's all yours. And then she like didn't

469
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 1: even want to take that. But I think this, that's

470
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 1: that mentality that people have where they will just go

471
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: and do stuff for nothing. And I was like, no,

472
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,159
Speaker 1: fucking take whatever you want. She was like, no, I

473
00:19:59,160 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 1: couldn't do that.

474
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Speaker 3: I could do that.

475
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 1: But to that, I say, always get something in return

476
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 1: for what you're doing.

477
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, for sure.

478
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 1: You know.

479
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 2: See, I feel like it's a wild concept to talk about,

480
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 2: But then I feel like it's to me wild that

481
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 2: people would work for free, because my thing is like okay,

482
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 2: So for example, I know this is unrelatable. But let's

483
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 2: say with the job I do now, which is content creation,

484
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 2: like if a brand was to be like, hey, come in,

485
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 2: like you know, come down to Bond. I were doing

486
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 2: an activation, which this has definitely happened. Come down, We're

487
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 2: giving away free lip balms all day. And you know

488
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: some people might go, oh well if I go, then

489
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: that might lead to more opportunities with that brand in

490
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Speaker 2: the future because I've done this one thing for free,

491
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Whereas I feel like.

492
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Speaker 1: When we were smaller, like starting out back in the day,

493
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Speaker 1: we definitely did a lot more things for free to

494
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Speaker 1: build those relationships with those brands.

495
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Speaker 3: I feel like it's shifted now.

496
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that two things have shifted. One is

497
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: I feel like that never leads to opportunities anymore. If

498
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Speaker 2: brand wants to work with you, they will pull the

499
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 2: money up front and work with you. So it's like

500
00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't need to do any of those. But maybe

501
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 2: that's just me because I'm actually relevant, and maybe people

502
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 2: who aren't relevant me to what why do you laughing?

503
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 2: And everything I'm saying, they like, sorry for speaking my truth,

504
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 2: but not me being the most in demand queer creator

505
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 2: in Australia. But anyway, I am relevant. I don't think

506
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 2: that's a bad thing to say. With what you hello,

507
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: number one podcast in our hearts anyway, I know what

508
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 2: I'm worth anyway. The other thing is no one would

509
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: have expected me ten years ago when I was working

510
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: in a fast food restaurant, like no one would have

511
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 2: expected me to just come in and work for four

512
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Speaker 2: hours and not get paid for it.

513
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Speaker 3: Exactly right?

514
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Speaker 2: Is that not illegal? So like, why am I expected

515
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Speaker 2: to do free things? In mind, I'm just too old.

516
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Speaker 1: And that's one thing that we've also done in our

517
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Speaker 1: business as well, is we have always paid people for

518
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Speaker 1: a trial. And I don't know if the laws have

519
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: changed recently and if you have to pay people for trials,

520
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 1: but for the whole time I've had fate, anyone that's

521
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: come to do a trial, we pay.

522
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Speaker 2: Them as like you, they've had an interview and.

523
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do a little trial like a one

524
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Speaker 1: hour trial or whatever. Like we always pay people where

525
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Speaker 1: I think it's common for people to do a trial

526
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: and it's just an unpaid trial kind of thing. But

527
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 1: we've always paid people because that feels like the right

528
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: thing to do. Even if they don't get the job,

529
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Speaker 1: we're still going to pay them for that time that

530
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Speaker 1: they were in our store or in our cafe serving customers.

531
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Speaker 2: And you know what. The other life lesson here for

532
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: you is time is more important and more valuable to

533
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: me than money. So like my thing is, I would

534
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 2: rather spend the time doing something I actually want to do,

535
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: because you can always make more money in the future,

536
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: but you are never guaranteed more time, you know, right.

537
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Speaker 2: So it's like for me, I'm like, I'm not going

538
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 2: to waste my time doing something. Even with all the

539
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: like you know, movie premieres and stuff I get invited to,

540
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Speaker 2: I will only go if one I'm getting paid, or

541
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Speaker 2: two I want to actually see the movie yep. If

542
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Speaker 2: I have no interest, like I'm not getting out of bed.

543
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: But there are all these people who go to the

544
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Speaker 2: opening of a fucking envelope and and you see them

545
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: they're all you know, not all from but like they're

546
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Speaker 2: the ones from the reality shows. And I'm sure people

547
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: are coming to your mind as I'm saying that they

548
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 2: are at every single thing you could imagine possibly being

549
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: invited to. They're they're getting their photo, doing their thing,

550
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: and I just think, like some of them, they've been

551
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: doing that for three four years? Where's it Gotnya? You

552
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, are you not exhausted because.

553
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Speaker 1: Because you are watching them go to all these things,

554
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Speaker 1: you're exhausted for them?

555
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: Well, I'm exhausted for them, but I mean I just

556
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: think like, if you got it, you got it, and

557
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: if you don't, you don't, you know, what I mean.

558
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 2: And like, if they're at every single event and not

559
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: getting booked and busy for paid work, are you not

560
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: exhausted because I'm over here thinking, babes, these.

561
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Speaker 3: People need to get books.

562
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Speaker 2: Is this shady?

563
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 4: Yes? Okay, I care though, because it's like.

564
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Speaker 3: This is our hot podcast. We can say whatever we want.

565
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 3: I know, and I'm not trying to.

566
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Speaker 2: Be rude, but I'm just I'm just like, in my brain,

567
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense to waste all that time.

568
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: And from the other side as well, brands will take

569
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Speaker 1: whatever they can get for fucking free of people.

570
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Speaker 3: This is the other thing.

571
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Speaker 1: Like the brands love this shit. They love people showing

572
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: up for free, doing things for free. That's why they

573
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: host events and all that. Like, as a brand host

574
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Speaker 1: an event and just invite people to a whatever, like

575
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: whatever party you're throwing, and like you're getting people to

576
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Speaker 1: come for free, post about you, tag you because they've

577
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: come to your event and you haven't had to pay

578
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: them shit. Yeah, so it's very clever on the brand's part. Yeah,

579
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: and that's the whole point of these events. Yeah, it's

580
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Speaker 1: for brands to get free exposure.

581
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Speaker 2: And I think as well. Recently there's been this shift

582
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: with brands that now they almost expect you to post

583
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: regardless of your thoughts and feelings, which I don't love.

584
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Speaker 2: So I always make it clear, like whenever I get

585
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Speaker 2: whenever a brand wants to send me a PR package,

586
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Speaker 2: let's say, they will be like, we're sending this out

587
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Speaker 2: in exchange for one TikTok and a share on your story,

588
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: or sometimes they just say share on your socials, and

589
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Speaker 2: it's up to me to decide. I always go back

590
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: and say, Hi, no, not guaranteeing that. Feel free to

591
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Speaker 2: give it to someone else if you don't want to

592
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: risk me not posting. But I I'm always going to

593
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: try something first and only recommend what I want to

594
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Speaker 2: recommend to my audience. And I've never actually had anyone

595
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: like deny the PR package and be like, oh, we

596
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: won't bother sending it, because then they look a bit

597
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 2: stupid if they'd like just want. But my thing is

598
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Speaker 2: with like events that I've been to again, I only

599
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 2: go and if I enjoy myself, I will post about

600
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Speaker 2: the event, or even if I don't enjoy myself, I

601
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 2: might't post about it. But the thing is, there's like

602
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: this expectation that because you were invited, you must post

603
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: about it, and I'm like, not.

604
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Speaker 1: Feeling that it gives you going to these events is like,

605
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: oh they invited me, I win, I had drinks, I

606
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: had food. So then influencers feel like they have to

607
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: post about it.

608
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: No, not me, But then I have brands follow up

609
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: and I just reply myself and go, Hi, I didn't

610
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 2: enjoy myself or I didn't enjoy the movie. I can't

611
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: recommend this to my audience. Blah blah. I'm I feel

612
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: like I'm known in the industry for doing that, Like brands.

613
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: I feel like brands talk and going, oh, he didn't

614
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Speaker 2: enjoy himself again, because I'm never bloody dude, do I

615
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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, when am I ever

616
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Speaker 2: enjoying myself?

617
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Speaker 1: Not?

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Speaker 5: Right now, let's kick things off, even though we're way

619
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Speaker 5: into this episode already, Matt with our royal Flush of

620
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Speaker 5: the Week, which is the best thing that we saw.

621
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Speaker 3: On the internet. Do you want me to start?

622
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Speaker 2: Sure?

623
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Speaker 1: Okay, mine's only like a little little fun one. You've

624
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: probably seen it on my TikTok all weekend, which I'm

625
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: so pissed off because I literally heard about this on

626
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: like Friday afternoon and I'm like, God, this is such

627
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: a good opportunity for us to make a fate dancing video,

628
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Speaker 1: but I have to wait until like tomorrow to bloody

629
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Speaker 1: do it because we haven't been.

630
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Speaker 3: At work over the weekend.

631
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Speaker 1: A bunch of I think it's Irish kids have made

632
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Speaker 1: an absolute banger of a song.

633
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Speaker 2: Oh have you seen it?

634
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 6: This?

635
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: And it's just so fun.

636
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Speaker 1: I'll play a little snippet of it for you now.

637
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: Well, that's just so fun and cool.

638
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: Thanks. I hate it?

639
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: What so you hate that? But you love Jojo s

640
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: Are Karma.

641
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they give the same energy to mead.

642
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: You know what, if Jojo Karma was playing, I could

643
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: ace that sex scene. Baby, bring it on, what with.

644
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: Her vicious like humping that she does in the mid

645
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: see in the music video she's like humping some chick.

646
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it.

647
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: Wow best anyway, I love that song. It's an absolute

648
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: bangerm It's called the Spark and it's by Cabin Crew.

649
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's the kids and Liz Dune Varner Crue.

650
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm probably saying that wrong. Anyway, it's a bunch of

651
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: kids just having fun. I've made a drum and bass song.

652
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: And good on him.

653
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: I fucking love that.

654
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: I love that. I still want to release a song

655
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: with you one day. We need to. We could be

656
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: better than them. Surely got some parody song.

657
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Speaker 1: I could come out with a genuinely good song.

658
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, well yeah, a.

659
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: Pop song, yeah, and a rock song of a pop song.

660
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: Like the twenty twenty four version of We Found Love.

661
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: You know what we could do the twenty twenty four

662
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: version of We Found Love by Rihanna.

663
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, let's do it.

664
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: Song of the summer. We still got.

665
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: Time, Yeah, let's make it happen.

666
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: Okay, you know well, I mean I can't speak for

667
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: Bloody the Big Stebs, but you know that like me

668
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: recording rad and Scomo and when you recorded your song, like,

669
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: was it like just a couple hours of recording? Yeah? Yeah?

670
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: How wild is that? Like I know that Ariana Grande

671
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: is probably spending weeks on one song, but like the

672
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: fact that I just went in recorded it and the

673
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: song was done in like a few hours. I was like,

674
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is actually if I knew how

675
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: to do it all.

676
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: I wish I knew how to do it. I reckon

677
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: I could do it.

678
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, let's a little fun fact of the week.

679
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot I had to do my

680
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 2: royal flush. This is like definitely not the best thing

681
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: I've seen on the internet this week, but I just

682
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: want to talk about it because I just think it

683
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: is so fucking hilarious. Did you see that the Pope

684
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: has been forced to apologize after saying there's too much

685
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: faggotry in the church.

686
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: We went to say this on the phone, Yes, I

687
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: am one, I am one faggot.

688
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: Try did he actually say that?

689
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: Let me tell you it is so funny. So he

690
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: used the word like in whatever language he speaks, that

691
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: translates loosely to faggot trey, But he meant like gay

692
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: people them faggots. Whatever the homophobic slur in his language is,

693
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: it translates to anyway, say that it was in a

694
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: meeting like behind closed your like in a like church

695
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: meeting of some sort. He said that there was too

696
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: much fuck.

697
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: I kind of would say the word because me and

698
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: my friends say this word as like, you know, if

699
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: we see something so gay on the side of the road,

700
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 4: like if we see like something fabulous and gay, like

701
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: even more than camp, we go Oh, faggot tree.

702
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: You know, we just look at it and go look

703
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: at the faggot tree of it all. That's so funny

704
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: that the Pope to imagine, just picture that, Rittney, Just

705
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: picture the Pope out the back of the church with

706
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: all the ministers sitting there, going it was too much

707
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: faggotry and hair boys. I'm like, first of all, whose

708
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: problem is that, Darlan, it's the system you've created. But

709
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: apart from that canceled, I mean, it's not my favorite

710
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: thing I've seen on the internet, but fuck, it's hilarious. Yeah,

711
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 2: what the heck, It's okay, hilarious. And I know that,

712
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, some queer people would be very upset by

713
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: the use of this word. Not me. I'm sitting here

714
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 2: pissing myself when I saw that. I went I and

715
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: living in a simulation. The fact that I am looking

716
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: at the news right now and it says the Pope

717
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: like and the fact that like on Sunrise, it's like

718
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: the Pope has been forced to apologize after using a

719
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: homophobic slur, and it says down the bottom of the screen,

720
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: Pope apologizes for saying faggot treat it right that they

721
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: put the stars in it. It was like f Star

722
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: Star Star Troy. But I was just like, I'm like,

723
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: we aren't living in a real world, Like what is

724
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: going on.

725
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: Another thing that has been circulating on my fip over

726
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: the weekend, Matt, and I'm sure it has on yours

727
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: as well, is a viral video by doctor Leslie Dobson.

728
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 1: She's a psychologist, parenting safety, true crime, satire, intentionally disturbing,

729
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: so she's not afraid of saying what she thinks. She

730
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: has made a video about shopping carts aka trolleys, and

731
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: this video has ten point six million views. She's that

732
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: proud of it that she's pinned it to the top

733
00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: of her TikTok page.

734
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: And this is what she said.

735
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 7: I'm not returning my shopping coat, and you can judge

736
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 7: me all you want. I'm not getting my groceries into

737
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 7: my car, getting my children into the car, and then

738
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 7: leaving them in the car to go return the cart.

739
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 7: So if you're going to give me a dirty look,

740
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 7: fuck off.

741
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: This has sent the Internet into an absolute tizzy, Like

742
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: there are so many stitches to her video. For me personally,

743
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: this video says everything we need to know about her

744
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: as a person.

745
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's satire.

746
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: Nah, do you reckon?

747
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: Yes, you've just you just readier satire. And what what

748
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: was the last word on her bio? Something about like

749
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: baiting or something like that, or rage baiting.

750
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: Or something intentionally disturbing.

751
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: Oh, did I get raised baiting?

752
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: Do you think she's just joking?

753
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's she's and she's a psychologist. She

754
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: would know how people are going to react. She's a purpose.

755
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: She's done it. I haven't watched it.

756
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: But there's another video here that's titled shopping cart follow

757
00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: up should be Yeah, I.

758
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: Haven't seen this one, but let's go.

759
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 8: It's May thirty first, and about six million people have

760
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 8: freaked out over me not returning my shopping cart because

761
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 8: my kids are in the car. So I want to

762
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 8: give you some statistics. Last year, two hundred and sixty

763
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 8: five children were abducted in parking lots in America. Half

764
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 8: of those were sexually assaulted. As a single mom, returning

765
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 8: your shopping cart, you are a prime for a predator to.

766
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: Watch and grab you.

767
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 8: In many states, it's actually illegal to turn your car

768
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 8: on and walk away. Many comments said that they would

769
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 8: turn the car on, leave the air on for the

770
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 8: kids and go return the shopping car.

771
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: So she's defending herself.

772
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: So this tells me she is not lying, Like, yeah,

773
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: she knows that her video is stirring the pot, but

774
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: I think she's genuinely the kind of person that doesn't

775
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: give a fucking won't return it. And in the comments

776
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: of this follow up video, people are saying, somehow all

777
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: of us moms managed to return the cart. Someone else said,

778
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: I put the groceries in the car, walk with the

779
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: kids in the car to the cart house. I'm guessing

780
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: that's what they call it, like the shopping trolley. Bait,

781
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: I return it and then I walk back to the

782
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: car with the kids.

783
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: Bro, just return your car.

784
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: This is the thing a lot of people were saying

785
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: on her initial video too, How did you get the

786
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: cart in the first place.

787
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: You took your.

788
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: Kids with you to get the shopping trolley, So do

789
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: you still reckon she's just doing it for bait.

790
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like it's hard to tell, because I

791
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: definitely have made videos on TikTok, not on Instagram. It

792
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't work on Instagram, but on TikTok, I've definitely made

793
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: videos where I'm like, I know this will get a reaction.

794
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 2: Remember I've said before that noise upstairs in my house

795
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 2: that I'd lived in in every apartment i'd lived in

796
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: over the years of living in apartments, I'd heard the

797
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: same noise. So then I made this video that was like,

798
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone else experiences this, knowing full

799
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: well it would be something that everyone experiences. And then

800
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: that went viral because like, so I'm like, she's a psychologist,

801
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: so she's a smart woman. She's well we'd assume, and

802
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: she also says satire in her bio, and also whatever

803
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: the other thing she said was. But my thing is like,

804
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: if you've gonna if you've gotten If I made that

805
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: satire video of the trolley and it got ten point

806
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: six million views, I'm not going to change my tun

807
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: and go, hey everyone, that was satire. I'm going to

808
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 2: double down and say all of that because now that's

809
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: going to get attention as well. It's only going to

810
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: build my platform even more.

811
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: Let's say she is being serious and this isn't part

812
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: of her satire funny joking videos. Let's just take that

813
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: out of the equation. If she's being dead serious, what

814
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: do you think?

815
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: What do I think? In what like, because the whole.

816
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: Debate online is like if people don't put their shopping

817
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: trolley back, like that says a lot about who they

818
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: are as a person.

819
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's literally meant to be like a litmus

820
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: test for like whether you have moral character, whether you'll

821
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: go out of your way to help someone else, because

822
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: the whole thing is returning your shopping trolley. Sorry, I'm

823
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: man explaining. I hate when I do this, but the

824
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: whole thing is if you return your trolley, it's actually

825
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: got nothing like you're not helping yourself at all, but

826
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: you're helping out someone else.

827
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 6: And people go, oh, but shopping trolley people like have

828
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 6: to collect them, that's their job, blah blah. But then

829
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 6: people like, but it's just one less trolley they have

830
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 6: to collect, and like what if it's raining, Like everyone's

831
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 6: been arguing on the internet about this.

832
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: So I think the whole thing is if you're someone

833
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: who doesn't return your trolley, you are less likely to

834
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: help others if you don't have to, because there's.

835
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: No actual rule, right, a common courtesy.

836
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: My thing is that it definitely depends on my mood,

837
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: So you leave the trolley sometimes, Yeah, most of the time,

838
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: I would probably say like, oh, in more recent years,

839
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: probably even more since I've actually learned about this whole

840
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: litmus test thing, I now consciously try and go back.

841
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: But you know, it's I get a bit awkward when

842
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: other things factor into me putting my trolley back, which

843
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: which no, but let me finish which with the whole

844
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: helping people thing, I think there would be other factors

845
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: that would come into play of whether I would was

846
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: to help someone or not. Right, So I think it's

847
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: very fair. So if I've put my shopping, like my

848
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: trolley in the if I've put my shopping in the

849
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: car and there's a car waiting for my spot, I'll

850
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: dump the trolley.

851
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point because.

852
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: On like, you don't have time to run all the

853
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: way back in or to the thing if it's not

854
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: near right like to the little bay.

855
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: And I'm like, if they really are worried and are

856
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: judging me for leaving the trolley so that they can

857
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: have a car spot, one that's on them, and two

858
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: they can take my trolley that I've left right there

859
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: for them and they can go and use that if

860
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: they'd like to, you know what I mean. Like, so

861
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: like other things might come into play. The other one

862
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: is like, for example, a couple of months ago, the

863
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: trolley bay had not been cleared and there were trolleys

864
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: literally rolling around the car park, So I didn't take

865
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: my trolley back because I'm just going to add to

866
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: that problem, do you know what I mean. I will

867
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: also admit though, that half the time I start the

868
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: car and Sky takes back the trolley, Sky will always

869
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: take back his trolleys.

870
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like that too, Like I'm that person, and

871
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: even like I don't know if it was Bunnings, but

872
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: I remember I got a heap of ship from Bunnings

873
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: and then I couldn't see the trolley bay anywhere like

874
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: near me.

875
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: So then I'm that person.

876
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: I take the trolley all the way back in the store,

877
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: say hi to the person again that's like in the front,

878
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: and then I take it, you know, have to go

879
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: into Bunnings and put it in there, like I got.

880
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: I go that far to literally put it back, and.

881
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: Then walk out again by again like I can't not, like,

882
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: I will take it all the way back into the

883
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: fucking shop.

884
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, even if it's like a thirty meter.

885
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: Walk like her being like no, I will not take

886
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: my trolley at all, Like I go, you're a ship person.

887
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: But I think for me, I pick.

888
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 3: And choose depends on the circumstance, and I will.

889
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: Say it's like ninety percent of the time I'm taking

890
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: it back. I'm never just so lazy that I just

891
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: don't take the trolley back.

892
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: That's the energy she's giving off.

893
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I never park near people, and I

894
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: also park at the back of the car park so

895
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: that I.

896
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: Can leave your trolley and no one can judge you.

897
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's well, I mean maybe secondary, yes, but

898
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 2: first of all, so I get more steps in. Started

899
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: doing that. I park over in the back corner once

900
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 2: and no one hits my car, And I just hate

901
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: like with the trolley coming back to the car park

902
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: and there's cars on either side and you can't get

903
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: to your boot and blah blah blah. I just find

904
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: like parking way down the back his heaps easier and

905
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: then I get more steps in and then if I

906
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: have to leave the trolley, which I don't know why

907
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: I've brought this up, because realistically, I think in the

908
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: last few years, like there's gonna be like one or

909
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: two times I've left my trolley, like I feel like

910
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: people are gonna think that I leave it all the time. No,

911
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: they won't cancel me for this. There's many other things

912
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: I've said in this podcast they could probably cancel me for.

913
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna start with whether I put

914
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: a trolley back or not. But it's not a regular occurrence,

915
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: but I think it shows because the whole thing is

916
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: it's a litmus test of would you what lengths would

917
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 2: you go to to help other people who do something

918
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: that you don't need to do or isn't morally you know,

919
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: the law or whatever. My thing is. I'm such a

920
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: rule follower, so if it was a rule, I would

921
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: put my trolley back every fucking time.

922
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: Why you should go to Aldi, because then you've got

923
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: to put your two dollars or one dollar in and

924
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: to get the dollar back you need to take it

925
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: to the trolley bait, plug it into the other one

926
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: and get your coin back.

927
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: But you hate Audi. We all know.

928
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: These days, anything goes. I might start trying to shop

929
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: at Aldi. Although the price is just the same as

930
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: everywhere else now, I think.

931
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: You can still save a bit. I don't think it's

932
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: as drastic of a price difference as it used to be.

933
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: Let's say like five to ten years ago. I feel

934
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: like Aldi was significantly cheaper, but you definitely still can

935
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: save money at Audi.

936
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: Also, why is that lolly that I'm eating tastes like

937
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: a Shardenay what Like it's got a sharden aye taste

938
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: kind of Yeah, right, I'm thinking that's a class above

939
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: ly anyway, So you're someone who puts your trolley back.

940
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: All the time, way, so I will go all the

941
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: way back into the fucking shop and center.

942
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: But also, is that because you'd hate for someone to

943
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: see you leaving?

944
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: It's definitely because like I can't fucking dumb there, someone's

945
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: going to see me.

946
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like common courtesy.

947
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. If you like her and she's like na,

948
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: not doing it at all. The kids thing doesn't make

949
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: any sense to me.

950
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Take your kids with you, like, teach him a lesson,

951
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: like say, let's come and put the trolley back, like

952
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: like that's a little good life lesson in itself.

953
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: So how do you feel then about us, someone who

954
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: owns a clothing store. I'm just using all your businesses

955
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: today to justify Oh.

956
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: Even you can use an example when people just leave

957
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: all their like rubbish around or whatever, like pick that up.

958
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: Too, for sure. I see I hate someone who leaves mess,

959
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 2: leaves rubbish in a like fast food restaurant.

960
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: Like they leave all their mess, especially they've gotten takeaway

961
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: and like one of our toast is in like a

962
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: cardboard tray and then they just leave it all. Like

963
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: we've got a bin right there outside for our customers

964
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: and they still just leave it. But just little things

965
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: like that, like if I even go out for dinner

966
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: or whatever, like I'm the person that will stack all

967
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: the plates nicely and like try and make it as

968
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: neat as I can so that then it's making it

969
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: easier for the way to when they come to collect

970
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: the plates and they're not like awkwardly leaning over you

971
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: trying to stack it all and whatever.

972
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 3: But that's just little things.

973
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you're.

974
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: Gonna say about daka, what you're gonna say about clothing stores?

975
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: Well, like similarly to trolley or shopping car, Like if

976
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 2: I go into the change rooms at Fate and I

977
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: try on clothes and then they're not what I want, Well,

978
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: where am I leaving them? What am I doing with them?

979
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: Because if we want to use the litmus test, like

980
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: the trolley. Am I a better person for putting those

981
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: clothes back on the rack where I got them from?

982
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: Or am I leaving them either in the change room?

983
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: Or is that worse than not handing them to a

984
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: sales assistant? You know that's like different.

985
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: So what would you say, We in all of our

986
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: stores we have like a little rack like just outside

987
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: the chain room for that. But in saying that, we

988
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of racks because I find the

989
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: more opportunity that you'd be for someone to dump their shit,

990
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: they will. Let's take Zara for example. Have you ever

991
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: walked out of a Zara change room and they've got

992
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: like really long big rails and they're like double height,

993
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: and then it's just full of crap. So like when

994
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: people see that full of crap or maybe in cotton

995
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: on or whatever around, just like it's like an invitation

996
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: to just dump your unwonted shit there, and I think

997
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: it just creates mess. It looks like shit in the store.

998
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: So we just have little rails in the change room area.

999
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: But like it's fine for people to leave them there,

1000
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Like I would say it's kind of rude to like

1001
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: leave it just in the chaine room and walk out

1002
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: kind of thing, because then that's annoying, like if another

1003
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: customer does walk in and then they're like, is this

1004
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: someone's like is someone trying on things? Like they don't know,

1005
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: And you will get customers that go, oh, it's all right,

1006
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: I'll put these back. I think I'm that kind of person.

1007
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: But that's only because I have retail stores. Like if

1008
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't like something, I'll just take the two minutes

1009
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: to go and put them back where I found them.

1010
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: But like, we don't want customers to do that, like

1011
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: we would rather than be handed to us, and we'll

1012
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: go and do it. And because sometimes they don't like

1013
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: put them back in the right spot anyway, like they

1014
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: put the sizing all out of whack or the coat

1015
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: hangers backwards or whatever.

1016
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: But it's good to know because I'm a put back

1017
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: where I found.

1018
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: It me too.

1019
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: But then like, if you're going to go out to

1020
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: that length of putting it back, which is super nice

1021
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: and amazing, put it back in the right spot, and like,

1022
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: don't just shove the size eighteen at the front of

1023
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: the rack, like you've got to put it back exactly

1024
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: where it belongs. Because if not, then you're inconveniencing someone

1025
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: that's going to have to go and change it.

1026
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's a good point. So maybe it's easier

1027
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: if I just put my clothes on the rack, yeah, or.

1028
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: Hand it to the sales assistant, or say to the

1029
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: sales assistant like did you want me to put these back?

1030
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: And like if a customer says do you want me

1031
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: to put these back? Then we'll always go no, no, no,

1032
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: that's fine, I'll take it off you kind of thing. Yeah, nice,

1033
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: a little lesson for everyone. Don't leave a shit in

1034
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: the change room crumpled on the floor.

1035
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: Well, that's another episode, done and dusted. And from what

1036
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: we're established in this.

1037
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: Episode, MAP, I'm cooked apparently.

1038
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you're fine. Oh that's pretty tight. You're fine,

1039
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: You're fine.

1040
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: What I object to any scrutiny this week except usually

1041
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: I've opened to constructive criticism this week. Stuff is you

1042
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: want to send a constructive criticism, send it to our

1043
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: email scrollers at Never Podcast, So calm down. That'll be

1044
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: linked down in the show notes for you. Me and

1045
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: Britt don't check that email, so we won't see the feedback,

1046
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: but our producer will, and she will not let us

1047
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: know because I don't want to hear it this week,

1048
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Anyway, all the usual, Yeah,

1049
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: you gotta cut bothered.

1050
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: You know, we just leave us five stars.

1051
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: Subscribe if you haven't download every episode please, That's about it.

1052
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 2: Anyway, d'arl I better let you go. There's too much

1053
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: faggotry going on in here.