WEBVTT - Sharri | 29 July 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:08.520 Live on Sky News. This is Sharry Good Evening. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.920 We start tonight with breaking news. Opposition leader Peter Dutton 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.920 has just landed in Israel for a three day trip. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.119 As we go to air, Dutton is currently meeting with 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.640 Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz. He will then later today 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:27.479 local time meet with Israeli President Isaac Hertzog. This is 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.400 a strong show of support from the Coalition towards our 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.920 closest ally in the Middle East. It comes as senior 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:39.280 figures in the Israeli government are growing increasingly frustrated with 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:43.960 the Albanezy governments at public criticisms and hostilities. I could 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.480 also reveal the opposition leader will then meet with hostage 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:52.479 families and former hostages who have now been rescued by Israel. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:57.840 These will be deeply emotional meetings for Peter Dutton. You 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.560 hardly ever hear our current government speak about the hostages. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:06.040 Yet there are still one hundred and twenty Israelis, including 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:11.639 baby Kafir Bibas, held captive by terrorists in Gaza. Dutton 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.600 will also over the coming days travel to the south 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:20.200 to the kibbutzs where Hamas slaughtered entire families and he'll 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.600 go to the site of the Nova Music festival where 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:27.800 oney two hundred young Israelis were gunned down in cold blood. 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.680 Dutton is unlikely to meet with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.840 who broke his trip to the US to deal with 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.959 the escalating situation in the north of Israel. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.560 There are concerns war is imminent after. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:46.760 The tragic and atrocious attack by Hesbela on children over 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:51.040 the weekend. Now, Peter Dutton is the most senior Australian 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:56.760 politician to visit since October seventh, with Anthony Albernizi refusing 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:01.160 to go. Alberanizi is one of the only Western leaders 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.200 who chose not to visit Israel to show his support 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:10.920 over the past nine months, and when Pennywang eventually visited 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.840 the region, she didn't bother to go to the sites 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:19.320 of the October seven massacres. This trip is highly significant. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:25.680 It reinforces Dutton's commitment to Israel, Australia's ally and to 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.720 the Jewish community. It's a volatile situation at the moment 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.880 on the ground. Already flights are being canceled to Lebanon 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.320 amid the tensions with Hesblah, and we'll Cross Live to 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.600 Israeli politician Sharon Haskell. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.200 Later this hour to speak about how she. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.800 Expects this situation is going to unfold in the North. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.200 But Dutton's decision to make a solidarity trip to Israel 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.760 is a sign of how different foreign relations would be 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.639 under a Dutton prime ministership, and it highlights the leadership 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:07.440 we've been solely missing from the Albanese government. Now let's 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.560 turn to Albanesi's cabinet reshuffle. There's a cost of living crisis, 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:16.200 a housing crisis, and spiraling power bills and on our streets, 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:21.720 lawlessness goes unchecked and an unprecedented breakdown in social cohesion. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:26.560 This is an economic and social crisis. Yet you have 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:31.200 to ask is the Prime Minister even serious about fixing 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:36.080 these problems, about making life easier for working families who 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.520 are struggling. Because he's put Clara O'Neill in the critical 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.400 portfolio of housing and Tony Burke in charge of our 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:50.560 national security. Clara O'Neil comprehensively failed as Home Affairs Minister, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.240 a point that was obvious even. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:53.600 To the PM. 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.240 It's why he moved her out of that role. Under 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:03.080 her watch, Australians were bashed, assaulted, and a convicted pedophile 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:08.480 allegedly contacted children after they were released from immigration detention. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.680 Clara O'Neil and her sidekick Andrew Giles failed to protect 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:18.040 the community time and time again. Barely a week went 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.920 by without the opposition calling for her scalp. 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.520 The best thing would be for Minister Giles and Minister 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:30.159 O'Neil to resign, resign today and if that doesn't happen, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.840 for the Prime Minister to show some strength. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.240 Clara O'Neill is like this, just this rolling train wreck. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.040 She's a complete debarkle, just a walking disaster for the government. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:44.320 This is an incompetent, hopeless, hapless Home Affairs minister. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.800 Prime Minister should sack Andrew Giles and sack Claara O'Neill. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.640 But it wasn't just the Coalition launching a political attack. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.000 O'Neil faced tough questions in the media. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:59.680 Too banged legal challenges to come out of this legislation. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.000 I'm so sorry, I've got to go to a metage. 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:08.080 Missus questions are there, what's your response. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.000 Well, we want to know what they did. 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.760 One raped a fourteen year old stepdaughter while his wife 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.840 gave birth one rate the sister of the mother of 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.839 his infant child, one raped a disabled fourteen year old 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.000 and a sixteen year old. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.080 Do you think that washes. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.000 Look natt, I completely understand the concern that you have 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.000 about these and the crimes that you've listed there are 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.640 absolutely horrendous and no member of Parliament and no member 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.320 of the government is going to disagree with that. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.479 Well, the situation is now so bad that we learned 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.240 on the weekend thanks to journalist at Rhiann and Down, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.880 the five hundred and twenty dangerous non citizens were released 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.320 from immigration to tension by the Albanezy government in its 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:56.719 first year in power five hundred and twenty oh and 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.279 recall that O'Neill called the future president of the United 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:04.960 States son a big baby in social media comments. She 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.600 should have been apologizing, in fact, because her own agency 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:13.040 had been slow to grant him a visa. Those comments 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.640 were juvenile and unbecoming of a senior government minister. As 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:22.719 her shadow Home Affairs James Patterson pointed out at the time, his. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.400 Purpose is not to exclude people on a political basis 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.560 or an ideological basis. People have diverse range of political 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.840 views are perfectly entitled to come to Australia as long 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.320 as they intend to propagate them in a peaceful way. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.520 And I have not seen any evidence to the contrary 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.600 about mister Trump Junior's planned visit to Australia. 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.720 And yet Albanizi has now moved Clara O'Neil into the 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:49.880 equally important role of Housing Minister, a portfolio that would 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.880 need enormous heavy lifting because the Albanzy government has not 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:58.320 built a single completed home under its ten billion dollar 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:04.039 Affordable Housing Fund, despite pledging to build forty thousand homes 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:05.320 within five years. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:06.839 Well just let that sink in. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.600 Not a single home built yet, that's according to Simon 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.360 Benson's report. Yet it's spent twenty four million dollars on 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:19.920 consultants and six million on executive salaries, a poor record 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:24.200 to say the least. This is despite the fact that 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.960 rising rents are one of the key contributors to our 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:29.840 inflation crisis. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.400 A lot of the remaining inflation that sitting in the 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.679 Australian economy is driven by supply challenges things like housing. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.800 A rate rise will only make the housing crisis worse. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.520 It will only contribute to even higher rents. 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.760 So this means the housing crisis is a big reason 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:52.400 inflation remains high, why the cost of living continues to rise, 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.960 and why the RBA has to keep pushing up rates. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.440 Does the Prime Minister really have confidence in Clara O'Neil 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.800 to fix this? Give her record over the past two years. 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.000 And then there's Tony Burke, the senior government minister who 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.600 was slow to properly call out hate preachers and he's 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.240 now in charge of Social Cohesion in the critical role 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.760 of Home Affairs. Or it was in Tony Burke's own 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:21.200 electorate that this hate preacher you're about to see uttered 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:26.880 these deeply offensive remarks just twenty four hours after October seven. 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:43.760 Smiling and unhappy. I'm it's a day of courage. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:49.040 On October the tenth, The Australian newspaper reported that Tony 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.960 Burke and Chris Bowen were under pressure for failing to 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:58.000 properly condemn local anti Israel preachers and activists who led 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:02.080 rally celebrating her mass's at times. They wrote, Leader of 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.720 the House mister Burke failed to directly condemn a preacher 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.920 in his electorate who said he was elated at the 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.560 murder of Israelis. The head of the nation's peak Jewish 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:16.080 body Alex Rivchin called on the Workplace Relations Minister to 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:20.760 repudiate this incitement in the harshest and clearest. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:21.640 Terms, he said. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.720 The criticism came after a rally took place in Lakember 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:28.920 in mister Burke's Southwest Sydney electorate, during which speakers described 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.160 attacks on Israel as you just heard, as an act 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:37.400 of courage and resistance. Well, Tony Burke himself is pro 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.960 Palestinian and anti Israel, and remember he didn't disavow the 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:47.400 abc of the notion that Israel was committing genocide. 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.319 I've heard people describe it as a genocide? 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:51.120 Do you see it that way? 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:57.240 I prefer to provide the facts as I just did, 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.720 and I think your listeners will will find their own 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.360 words to be able to describe it. I think when 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.200 we go straight to do we use this word, do 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.200 we use that word, we end up in an argument 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.400 about linguistics. What I want to talk about is what's 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:12.559 happening to individuals. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.520 But worse than this, what comments that Tony Burke made 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.000 at the Woodford Folk Festival where he tried to explain 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.720 away a context for the Hamas attacks on October seven. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:26.400 He said, as you're here. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.400 The history of the region didn't begin on the seventh 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:30.200 of October. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:35.319 Before the seventh of Octobers. I think it's worth remembering 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:45.440 because sometimes this is forgotten a canal, the word has 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.240 been genocide us here. 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.520 What is your response to those concerns? 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:51.959 Do you share those concerns? 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.920 The Israeli defeats minister said there will be no food, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:57.920 no water, no fuel. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.080 This is a complete siege and then. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.320 Described to the community in Gaza as human animals. 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:08.000 The discussion that I believe that I believe makes a 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:13.680 difference is in people hearing the facts of what is 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:18.880 happening on the ground and they will very quickly choose 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:19.840 words to describe it. 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:22.160 Well. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:27.480 ASIO Boss Mike Burgess has warned that Islamic extremism Islamic 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.680 extremism is the top domestic terror threat in our country. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.040 But how can Tony Burke be the Minister for Home 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.920 Affairs when instead of a clear eyed focus on Islamic 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:43.040 extremism as one of the top threats to Australia he 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:48.080 chooses to more often than not simply attack Israel instead 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.840 will Labor figure Cameron Milner, who is Bill Shotten's former 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:54.720 chief of Staff. He's going to be on my show 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.960 tonight and his view is that Tony Burke will be 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.920 compromised as Minister for Home Affairs and Immigration because his 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:06.400 seat of Watson is the center of Islamic extremism in Australia. 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.320 And Cameron Milner says that Burke will be under local 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:14.040 pressure from his constituents to take in more Palestinian refugees 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.440 or Cameron told me today how could we expect him 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.480 to take to cabinet a move to list his book 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:24.520 to Rear, for instance, given its members are already campaigning 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:30.360 against him in his own local seat. There's no question 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.560 that under Tony Burke we will see a strengthening of 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:37.800 the anti Israel position in the Albanese government because he's 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:41.840 never been a friend of Israel. Burke's own history in 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:47.000 the Immigration portfolio is also worrying. He presided over Operation 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.480 Open Borders for the last three and a half months 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.360 of the Rudd government back in twenty thirteen. Well two 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.640 years after this, in twenty fifteen, Tony Burke spoke to 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:04.240 Labor Faithful about how he proudly abolished temporary protection visas 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.720 and he admitted the number of lives the people who 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.720 had died under his watch. 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:11.280 Have a look. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.439 I was the shadow Minister for Immigration before the two 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:21.199 thousand and seven election. I took to the election and 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:25.640 to this conference a platform that the entire conference cheered. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.600 I changed our platform so that we stood for the 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.000 abolition of temporary projection visas. I was there for fewer 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.120 than four months, and there are thirty three lives that 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:39.280 were lost on my watch. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.480 Well during the time that he was Immigration minister, Tony 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.520 Abbott launched a scathing attack on Tony Burke. 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.200 We've had more than fifty thousand illegal arrivals, more than 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:56.880 eight hundred votes, eleven billion dollars in budget bloouts, and tragically, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.360 more than a thousand deaths. Sy it's important to get 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:01.920 the facts straight here. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.920 Well, given all of this, it is utterly extraordinary that 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.600 Tony Burke is now trying to position himself as a 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.800 future Labor leader, as a future prime minister. 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:15.119 It's fascical. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:20.840 If that Albanezy government was doing poorly before on immigration, detention, 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:27.200 on refugees, on social cohesion and more, it can only 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.640 get worse with his new team. I mean, you'd laugh 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:35.000 if it wasn't so concerning. For our safety and national security. 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.000 All right, let's bring in tonight's panel, Sky News host 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.200 Steve Price and contributor Joe Hildebrand. Welcome to you both. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.600 Great to see you. Well, let's start with tonight's breaking news. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:50.000 Joe. 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.560 Peter Dutton is right now in Israel. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:54.560 He's going to be meeting, as I just revealed, with 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:59.400 the Israeli President, Isaac Hertzog, with Israeli Foreign Minister, senior 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:03.640 members of the government. Joe, this stands in obvious contrast 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.960 to our Prime minister, who has refused to pay a 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.920 solidarity visit to Israel since October seven. 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.600 Yeah, look, I'm not I initially said that Anthony Alberanezi 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.440 needed to wait for an invitation to visit Israel from 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.480 the Prime Minister Edemint. It seems that invitation is not 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.040 going to be forthcoming. It hasn't handled it particularly well, 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:27.200 and I think the problem is that you have to 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.560 be consistent in these things, and you have to take 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.360 the rights down. You will find that he's actually politically 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.280 rewarding as well as the right thing to do. And 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.080 I think if there hadn't been and he was unequivocal 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:42.240 in condemning the October seven attacks. He wasn't unlike Penny Wong, 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.800 he didn't say, oh, you know, we urged Israel to 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.600 you know, be proportionate in its response. But again if 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:52.320 he hadn't been right there, you know, with Israel visiting 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.720 those communities that were affected, meeting the Prime Minister, it 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.600 would make it, I think politically easier for him to, 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.360 for example, you know, move the motion that was moved 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.440 in New South Wales Labor Conference over the weekend and 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.520 to condemn the actions in Gaza, as it was for 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.320 President Biden to do so, for example, because his allegiance 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.200 to Israel is not under question. And I think that's 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.080 where the Labor Party needs to be and they should 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.000 take a leaf out of Joe Biden's book and maybe 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:19.880 not Carmlala Harrison. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.560 Well, we'll get to the Labor conference a bit later 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.360 in the show. But Steve, the Prime Minister, was interviewed 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.920 on Sky Today by Kieran Gilbert and I was interested 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.320 to hear him and he doesn't say it often reiterate 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.200 government's travel advice that people shouldn't be going to Israel. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.680 Have a quick look, people shouldn't be traveling Australian citizens 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:45.520 shouldn't be traveling to that region given the instability which 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.920 is there and the risks of escalation which are there. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.800 I mean, Steve, you'd presume the PM would have known 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.800 through dfact that Dutton was making this trip. So perhaps 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.520 that's where the comments are going to go over the 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.600 next couple of days that Duton should be there. 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.679 It really does give the opposition and Peter Dutton in 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.760 particular more oxygen to describe Anthony Albanezi as a week leader. 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:15.600 Now you've heard those two words shari on numerous occasions 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.600 over the last couple of months. They keep prosecuting this 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.280 case that the bloke in the lodge is not a 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:25.040 strong decisive leader. So what Peter Dutton's trip does, of course, 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.440 has put even more pressure on Anthony Albanesi in that regard. 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:32.359 So and you can't underestimate either that that is a 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.119 dangerous place at the moment. And Peter Dutton has decided 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.520 to go on this very quick trip over three days. 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.000 This whole Hesbilar issue could blow up while he's in 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.000 the air or on the ground there in Israel, and 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.159 it shows that he's prepared to actually go there and 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.919 show an example of what Australia would be like under 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.399 a Dutton government and the Dutton government's attitude to Israel. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:58.000 It shows a very big gap between the Albanezy government 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.280 and what Peter Dutton would be like in power. And 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.160 I think that's what the aim of the trip is 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:02.919 as well. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:07.040 Yeah, yeah, indeed, Joe, let's turn to the weekends reshuffle, 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:08.240 Sunday's reshuffle. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:10.880 Look, the Prime Minister has tried. 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.480 To say, oh no, there were no failings by Clara O'Neil. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.200 She's doing an excellent job. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.879 That's my birthday party, everybody, that's the prize. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.240 Yeah, you know, this is ridiculous. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.879 No one believes the ministers were performing so well that 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.200 they just had to be moved out of their portfol. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:26.439 Of course, no one believes it. But he has to 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.760 say it doesn't he's the Prime minister. There is colleagues. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.399 He's saying the right thing. It's like when you know, 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.359 you send out an email saying that you know, like 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.239 Joe will be leaving us at the end of this 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.479 month after fifteen years with the company. We wish him 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.080 well in his future endeavors. He's been a wonderful employee. 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.400 Of course, he's going to say that blind Freddie knows 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.000 that's not the case. I don't think this reshuffle is 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:45.399 the disaster that a lot of people seem to be 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.159 paid to it as it seems very sensible to me. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.440 Sensible Tony, like Tony Burke, is a really really strong performer. 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.800 People might not agree with his past decisions or his 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.879 past positions, but he's a very strong performer. He's smart, 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.960 he's a strong parliamentary performer. He'll be able to handle 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.600 it very well. I think Andrew Giles, I think, is 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:08.440 the real sort of I suppose culprit in the disaster 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:13.120 over the immigrant detainees, and he's been absolutely shafted, he's 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.920 been absolutely shelld But it looks like a move sideways technically, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.480 so that's fine. Again, when was the last time you 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.840 heard about the wonderful work Brendan O'Connor was doing in 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.479 skills Never That's why no one's going to hear from 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:25.840 Andrew Giles every again. Claire O'Neil, A bit like Bill 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.720 Shorten being sent to ndis. You've got a portfolio that 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.120 wasn't even in cabinet the last time laborer in government. 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:35.600 It's now a really front of center, supercharged important portfolio, 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:37.520 and what do you do. You get someone who's got 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.840 a lot to prove, who maybe didn't have such a 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.600 great run on the paddock last time round. You say, right, 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:47.560 your reputation, your legacy depends on you fixing this crisis. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.439 That's what Shorten is doing right now with the NDAs. 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.720 And that's why I reckon Claire, given housing is so critical, 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.760 Given it's part of the reason inflation is so Hi 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.240 you think he would put Albaneze, He would put the 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.920 absolute best minister in that Steve. I'm going to hear 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.199 your take though, and what Joe just said, because I 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:07.200 completely disagree with him that Tony Burke couldn't be better 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.119 for Home affairs. I mean home affairs you need someone 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:14.520 tough on national security, tough on immigration, someone who is 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.280 strong on terrorism. 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:17.480 I mean Tony. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:21.280 Burke didn't call out the hate preachers after October seven. 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.959 Immediately it was Joe out the back when you started 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:26.600 the show today. 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:28.400 He's been missing in action. 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:30.960 I mean, he clearly didn't hear a word you said. 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.640 If he thinks Tony Burke's going to do a great job, 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.800 I mean Tony Burke has a seat which, as you 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.399 point out, Chari is the center of radical Islam in 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.240 Australia and he if he wants to retain the seat, 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.879 has to keep the Muslim vote and that's what he 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.000 is going to be doing. I mean, why would you 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.680 put someone like that in charge of Home Affairs? I 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.879 mean this whole O'Neil gilesing just makes me laugh. I 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:58.639 mean I sometimes wonder whether the Prime ministraction listens to 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.760 himself when he speaks. He was on Sky today with 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:05.400 Kieran and he had a crack at Barnaby Joyce over 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.760 those comments joycemade yesterday and he said, what does this 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.320 bloke have to do to lose his job? Was he 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:13.639 talking about Andrew Joles? 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.280 Yeah'll give about clear ooneal exactly. 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:22.879 Such a good point. I mean, the hypocrisy is truly breathtaking. Well, 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.280 let's have a look at the reality of this cost 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.000 of living crisis on the ground, and we read today 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:33.119 that Australian hospitality businesses are going under sadly at record rates. 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:36.879 This is new data from the Australian Securities and Investments 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:40.560 and it shows the number of food service in solvencies, 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:45.840 So restaurants and cafes insolvencies have jumped fifty percent to 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.480 one thousand, six hundred and sixty seven. 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:49.440 Joe. 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:54.000 You know this indicates that people can't afford to eat 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:55.119 to dine out so much. 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.200 It is terrible and it's awful to say any business 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:02.480 go under, especially small business there. However, the brutal reality 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.479 is this is what the Reserve Bank wants Australians to do. 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.080 It wants us to cut spending. And this is why 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.840 these businesses are going under because customers are no longer 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.199 spending their cutting back on anything because there is a 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.400 cost of living crisis. And believe me, I know, but 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.399 they are not spending on anything they don't absolutely have to. 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:21.639 So if there is a light at the end of 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.480 this tunnel, a silver lining to this cloud, it is 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:28.080 that this will hopefully put less pressure on the RBA 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.120 to raise interest rates next month. 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:34.159 For a very fine line though, between lowering inflation and 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:35.280 not plunging. 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.399 This This is the problem. It's a really session and. 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.760 The place where is the RBA on that? Are you 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:41.800 worried about that? Steve? 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:45.600 Yeah, Look, I know a number of people who run 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:50.200 businesses that have chains of restaurants, and you know they 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:54.480 are very successful. But guess what can't afford to open 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.720 on a Sunday, can't afford to play the penalty rates 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:00.320 in Victoria, you've got increases in land taxes, every price 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.920 of everything they sell has gone up, and of course 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.199 the changes to the industrial relations system boarding by this 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.960 government mean they've got to pay staff so much more money. 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.160 We are in the middle of a recession. Walk down 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:14.040 any of the main eat streets in Australia and you know, 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.480 I know Melbourne better than I know Brisbane, but I've 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.320 seen it in Sydney. The number of two let signs 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.879 in places like Chapel Street are unbelievable and people can't 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:24.920 afford to go out, and so they're not going out 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:28.600 and having smashed avocado on toast. Although we do still 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:31.560 see cafes that are full of people and Joe's probably 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:35.040