WEBVTT - #2009 Self-Driving Cars - Patrick Bonello

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good a tenants of bloody you project. It's bloody Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>bloody Tiff, bloody Harps. It's Friday afternoon, Thursday afternoon. I

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<v Speaker 1>should say this is something of a recording anomaly. Wh're

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<v Speaker 1>normally Friday am for this little episode, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how our brain's working. At five p emish on

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<v Speaker 1>a Thursday. Tiff just swanned in from somewhere. We'll find

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<v Speaker 1>out Patrick's drinking either cam Butcher or com Butcher. He's

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<v Speaker 1>already been corrected by Tiff, Like first sentence out of

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<v Speaker 1>her mouth was a correction, not hollow. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>correcting him on his pronunciation. How's your cam Butcher? Patrick?

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<v Speaker 1>Like coom Butcher?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm scared more scared of Tiff than you Apple

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<v Speaker 2>and lime kom Butcher is bloody great. I can still

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<v Speaker 2>microbiomes doing what they do with my tummy?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you do you take much notice of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>gup by ome thing? And are you proactively trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make yours healthier? Or do you just know the word?

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<v Speaker 1>I just know the word, you just know the word?

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<v Speaker 2>The other reason I bought it? Can I can I

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<v Speaker 2>admit why I bought it? So I normally I go

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<v Speaker 2>shopping on a Wednesday after I've finished my tai chi class.

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<v Speaker 2>I teach tai chi, but I deliberately do an early

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<v Speaker 2>class and then I've got an hour to shop. I

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<v Speaker 2>go to Aldi, I go to Cohl's. But because we're

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the holidays, can.

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<v Speaker 1>I just say, Chips laughing hysterically with her face in

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<v Speaker 1>her hands, I don't know what do you laughing at?

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<v Speaker 3>Quick fact that who else would have a whole story

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<v Speaker 3>around the breezeon of drinking a butcher?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if anyone can turn a thirty second anecdote into

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<v Speaker 1>a five minute fucking monologue, you know it's not you

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<v Speaker 1>or me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on the edge in my seat though, please continue past.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll tell you what. The listeners are definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>turning this off because this is not boring at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I'll finish off the story, because I just

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<v Speaker 2>have to. Now, when I shop online, I hit two buttons.

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<v Speaker 2>I hit vegan, and then I hit on special, then

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<v Speaker 2>my algments. That's the filter that I use first.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I look for other stuff and then comes

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<v Speaker 1>up mung beans and a banana, and he goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'll go the banana this week.

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<v Speaker 2>And pineapple and lime com Butcher for two for one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I bought it. I don't normally say and

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<v Speaker 2>answer your question, Grego, I don't do anything for my

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<v Speaker 2>gut biome except if it happens to be on special

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<v Speaker 2>once every term.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you have a pretty good diet, which

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<v Speaker 1>is doing something for your gut biome. Tip for you,

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<v Speaker 1>very I mean, I've never been, but I am. We

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<v Speaker 1>all know I am now because I've just got myself

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<v Speaker 1>there right in front of me, triple strength probiotics with

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six billion cfu per capture whatever that means. And

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<v Speaker 1>I got to say, I'm going to say my poo's

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<v Speaker 1>a world class, world class since I've got on the

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<v Speaker 1>probiotic training. Do you do you think about that a bit? Well, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've cleared that up for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mean anybody else's podcasting segments? Because it always

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<v Speaker 2>comes up in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why everyone's I don't know why everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>so fucking offended by something that everyone on the planet does,

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<v Speaker 1>which is shit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not offended by it, but surely we can

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<v Speaker 2>think of something else to thought about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can Butcher bottles and on special. And there's two buttons.

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<v Speaker 1>I hit the vegan and the on special. I reckon,

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<v Speaker 1>my poor story's got that covered. So just saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if our one remaining listener wants to hear What's next? Tiff?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, Tiff? What have you been doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good. I just had some clients the Savo and

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<v Speaker 3>scurried home in a hurry so I could make this

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<v Speaker 3>because I didn't want to miss out on the trio.

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<v Speaker 1>How many clients do you like to do? Now? If

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<v Speaker 1>you're wondering what Tiff does, she's among other things, she

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<v Speaker 1>trains a few people in the gym. What's your ideal

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<v Speaker 1>number of Not too many? Not too few? And I

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<v Speaker 1>know you don't do them every day, but like three

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<v Speaker 1>a day, two a day, four a day.

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<v Speaker 3>I've actually recently structured it so that I've got two

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<v Speaker 3>big days and then on the other there's a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of days where I just do a couple I don't

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<v Speaker 3>often do afternoons. I've got two groups that I do

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<v Speaker 3>on an afternoon together two times a week, and the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of morning sessions.

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<v Speaker 2>Some day is my big day.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I can have up to six or seven on

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<v Speaker 3>a Sunday, which is a big day, all back to back,

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<v Speaker 3>because now I've managed my energy and I've managed a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of downtime a bit better with that, whereas it

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<v Speaker 3>used to be kind of four people and I'm out

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<v Speaker 3>of there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know what's good about having your own business,

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<v Speaker 1>like you and me and Patrick for that point, is

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't do the same thing all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like if I came to you and I went, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got fifteen school kids that I want trained three

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<v Speaker 1>times a week at sekurta foreshore, could you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>And you could go, sure, here's how it would work,

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<v Speaker 1>here's how much it would like. It's not like you

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<v Speaker 1>only do the same thing the same way. So when

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<v Speaker 1>companies come to me and they go, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I go, I can do anything from a thirty minute

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<v Speaker 1>keynote to a three day living program, and we can

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<v Speaker 1>literally talk about anything from leadership and culture and high

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<v Speaker 1>performance to know metacognition and theory of mind and why

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<v Speaker 1>the boss is a prick. You know. It's like it's just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't have to go and hop in

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<v Speaker 1>this cookie cutter kind of you know thing where you

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<v Speaker 1>do the same thing. I love that kind of freedom

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<v Speaker 1>and that creativity to be able to to a point,

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<v Speaker 1>make stuff up, make your job up. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>want me to talk on? Like I had to talk

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<v Speaker 1>not today, I was going to say today yesterday with

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<v Speaker 1>a company and you know, like with a lot of companies,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't exactly know what they want, Like they want

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<v Speaker 1>you to talk at their conference, or to do a workshop,

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<v Speaker 1>or to come in and do some coaching or consulting.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you get on a call and you're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what do you want me to do and talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, ah, not exactly sure, but these are the

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<v Speaker 1>problems we've got. And then you can go, oh what

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<v Speaker 1>about this and they go, yeah, let's do that. What

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<v Speaker 1>about that? They're like, oh, that would be good too.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a lot of I think that's the beauty

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and saying with Hugh Patrick in your work

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<v Speaker 1>where you kind of it's pretty diverse.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just got asked this week to be the

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<v Speaker 2>compare for a year half hoedown fundraiser for our farmers. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I know nothing about boots scooting. I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to do some serious reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to do a bit of line dancing. When

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<v Speaker 3>we kid with my mom, I had the greatest boots.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, a good thing. Yeah, Drongo and the Crow,

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<v Speaker 2>the Darling's Family Trust, Renegade Bootscooter's Duo Deluxe. That's whose headline.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fucking great. I'm coming. I'm definitely coming to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to see you in cowboy boots and

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<v Speaker 1>a hat, trying not to be gay up the front,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to look like a cowboy.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other gig that I landed today was a

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<v Speaker 2>website for a male is squat.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on? Oh for a male escort?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to do a website for a male CampaignOn, so

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<v Speaker 2>you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it obviously doing a contrary with him.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, it's a male to female an.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you just say the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>She did? Thanks, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, did you go? Yeah, that'll be cash chack or

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<v Speaker 1>cash check or Nature's credit card katching. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we might end up doing a photo shoot

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<v Speaker 2>for him as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course you will. He's like, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the money for that. That's all right, it's free, come over. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he's like, but why are you also nude?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's just it's just how I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. Shwe By the way, did I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>I teach ty g.

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<v Speaker 2>It's de rated? We only host g rated websites on

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<v Speaker 2>our server.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you though? We know? How how did this

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<v Speaker 1>particular escort? I was reaching for the right word. How

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<v Speaker 1>did he? How did he find you?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know how he found me? His accountant listens to

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that is so good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's yp that's how he found me.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow, I'm glad that we're building your career. Here

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<v Speaker 1>you go, has that? I don't. Oh, I've got so

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<v Speaker 1>many questions about male escorts that are probably not appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>for now. Don't don't mail escort some males cord Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>is it legal?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it legal? Right? Well, I guess you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>a website if it's illegal, can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It's competitive service? Okay, it's a campaign, is it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it you just go out to dinner? It could be.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be a physically romantic encounter. It

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<v Speaker 2>could just be a you know, above the shoulders, high

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<v Speaker 2>brow interaction with someone you want.

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<v Speaker 1>To Yeah, I can imagine it'd be like a mensa

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with a salad and a hand job. What Sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>Cut that out?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Talk up? Hello? What did you say? I said? Salad,

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<v Speaker 1>solid crago. We're off to a flying start. No different

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<v Speaker 1>to every fucking week. You know most people listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this this bit and then jump out when the text

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<v Speaker 1>starts like fuck that boring tech talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know you know how you said. We've probably

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<v Speaker 2>down to one listener. I can tell you who it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's Jane. So I've got a message from Jane after

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<v Speaker 2>our last podcast, who is a big fan of typ

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<v Speaker 2>and she had a request for something that we could

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<v Speaker 2>talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is that? Sorry? I was swinging on what

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<v Speaker 1>I have. Firstly, shout out to Jane. Hi, Jane, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for being our one listener. What does Jane want you

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>He want us to talk about deep fakes and we

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<v Speaker 2>kind of have touched on this a few times and

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<v Speaker 2>it is kind of a really important one, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>to get our heads around. Jane also happens to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to ABC podcasts and I listened to the same podcast

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<v Speaker 2>called Ladies We Need to Talk, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I was in an impost a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>because if it's a podcast by women for women, I've

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<v Speaker 2>felt they kind of should I be listening to this?

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<v Speaker 2>But it was an amazingly good podcast, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't be promoting other podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you can promote whatever. So is that an actual

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<v Speaker 1>podcast or is that an episode.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Ladies want.

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<v Speaker 1>To Ladies, we need to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really good actually, But so the question was and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a really great question, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is she wanted to hear our take on the prevalence

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<v Speaker 2>of deep fakes and you know, is it just for

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<v Speaker 2>the porn industry and how disturbing do we think that

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<v Speaker 2>it is? And look, one of the stats that came

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<v Speaker 2>out that just blew my mind was that ninety six

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<v Speaker 2>percent of deep fakes are pornographic. So keeping in mind

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<v Speaker 2>that deep fakes can be used for political reasons to

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<v Speaker 2>try to sway people, to mislead people, but the high

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of ninety six is that deep fakes are pornographic.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the thing that is so disturbing is

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine percent of deep fake videos and photos are

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<v Speaker 2>of women. Yeah, and in looking for and the interesting

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<v Speaker 2>thing that came out of that was that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the methods that people use, so the AI tools,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's putting a person's face onto an existing pornographic video.

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<v Speaker 2>But the majority of all of that is geared up.

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<v Speaker 2>For the stock imagery is female, not male, because industry

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<v Speaker 2>is geared up and predominantly it is men wanting to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, superimpose a woman's face and whatever they're using

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<v Speaker 2>it for. There's a whole lot of websites out there

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<v Speaker 2>that obviously promote this sort of thing. They have celebrities,

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<v Speaker 2>but some of it can be quite malicious. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at some recent court cases and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that the biggest court case in Australian history

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<v Speaker 2>so far is recent and a guy by the name

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<v Speaker 2>of Antonio Rotondo. He deep fake basically used prominent women

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<v Speaker 2>and used deep fake to create pornographic material. He was

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<v Speaker 2>fined three hundred and forty three thousand dollars by the

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<v Speaker 2>Federal Court after being caught uploading and not removing non

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<v Speaker 2>consensual deep fake sexual images. And these are Australian women.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was a really a breached fourteen under the

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<v Speaker 2>Online Safety Act fourteen instances of the Online Safety Act.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's in the reach of average, everyday people. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing, you know, he'd already previously been fined

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five thousand dollars. That didn't stop him ian twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars didn't stop him from doing it, So

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<v Speaker 2>he may have been getting money out of this. He

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<v Speaker 2>may have been publishing and people subscribed to the site.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not entirely sure. I didn't follow the case

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<v Speaker 2>per se, but you know, it's a pretty staggering one.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you remember and this has came close to

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<v Speaker 2>home because last year there was some boys at a

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<v Speaker 2>local grammar school in back of Smash that were caught

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<v Speaker 2>and what they've been doing is taking AI generated new

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<v Speaker 2>images of about fifty other female students at their school,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they were sharing it amongst themselves and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the boys was actually charged.

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<v Speaker 1>But can we just clear up they weren't images of

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<v Speaker 1>the girls were They were girl's head imposed on existing nude.

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<v Speaker 2>Bodies exactly, That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't the actual girl's bodies, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was also fakes where they'd put the girl's heads on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think just explain to people that because like

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<v Speaker 1>so deep correct me if I'm wrong, but a deep

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<v Speaker 1>fake is essentially using an image putting someone's real face,

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<v Speaker 1>like my face on some other dude's nude body or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and then you then representing as that

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<v Speaker 1>as though it's real. This is really Craig up A

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<v Speaker 1>wearing nothing or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it could be face, it could be voice. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's classified as a deep fake as well,

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<v Speaker 2>putting a person's voice and using that. And you've heard

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<v Speaker 2>you know the sk now where people call and misrepresent.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, you might have a grandchild who's backpacking

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<v Speaker 2>through the UK and they're posting on social media and

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<v Speaker 2>they've got a video that has them talking. Well, potentially

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<v Speaker 2>a scammer could sample that and then call their family

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<v Speaker 2>and say, look, I've run out of money. Something's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I've lost all my luggage. And these are things that

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<v Speaker 2>are happening right now. You know, there was a CEO

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<v Speaker 2>or a CFO of a company who you know deep

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people use deep fake to scam and try

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<v Speaker 2>to get him to call through and change some bank

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<v Speaker 2>accounts over you know, put money into to transfer money

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<v Speaker 2>into another bank account. So there's lots of instances of

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<v Speaker 2>this happening, and even here in Australia as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I got an email a few years ago from some

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whatever going, We've got video footage of

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<v Speaker 1>you watching porn and how can pleasuring yourself? We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to share it. I'm like, share away. How good's that you?

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, ah, I'm like it's like it's going.

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<v Speaker 2>My answer that would have been can we monetize this

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<v Speaker 2>and let's go fifty to fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And they're like if you send us this or

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm like really, it's but I think that this,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is just one you know, version of

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<v Speaker 1>or one of the myriad of potential consequences and variables of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, artificial intelligence and all the stuff that we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to deal with. And I was listening to Rogan

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday and who was talking about if you get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to see it, it's it's ridiculous. So fifty cent,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, for our older listeners, fifty cent as a rapper.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an artist, and they took one of his songs

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<v Speaker 1>and they turned it into this nineteen fifty sixties bluesy

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<v Speaker 1>kind of song where this guy was singing this cool

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<v Speaker 1>dude all Ai general and it was unbelievably good, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just using these rap lyrics turned into this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of very very cool fifties style jazz kind of

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<v Speaker 1>blues kind of song and video clip and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it looked absolutely real. And the problem is not only

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<v Speaker 1>did it look real, it was great. Even Rogan's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this and it's fake and this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be I mean, moving forward with creatives and artists,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's rights or singers or musicians or you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be so much stuff that's produced that

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<v Speaker 1>like it or not, is going to be good, like

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<v Speaker 1>as in, that's going to be doing people out of

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<v Speaker 1>I guess their income or their job in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you do about that? Though? If they're

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<v Speaker 1>producing music AI, that's phenomenal to listen to. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you do?

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<v Speaker 2>I think as long as there's a disclaimer on there

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not trying to be was it Millie Vanilli?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Millie Vanilli?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, too young for that. Milli Vanilli was this

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<v Speaker 1>two person group who rose to fame I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>say in the nineties tiff and they were super cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone loved them and they just like for about I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say five minutes, but probably a year

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<v Speaker 1>or two they were massive, and then everyone then then

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<v Speaker 1>we found out I don't know, just not long after

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<v Speaker 1>they lip synced everything and they didn't sing anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just these two super cool dudes who couldn't sing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they tried to do a live concert and

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<v Speaker 2>it backfired on them. So they were trying to lip

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<v Speaker 2>sync during a life God, yeah, I think is what happened. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, the other thing that's worth keeping in

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<v Speaker 2>mind in terms of deep fake is it's been used

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<v Speaker 2>in films. It's a positive effect. You know, Harrison Ford

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<v Speaker 2>was deep faked so that in one of the last

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana Jones movies they could have a flashback to when

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<v Speaker 2>he was younger. So there's lots of you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think, who is the coastar in Top

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<v Speaker 2>Gun Bell Kilmer? So Bell Kilmer had a terrible illness

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<v Speaker 2>where he lost his voice, but he acted in a

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<v Speaker 2>movie and they deep faked his voice so that he

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<v Speaker 2>could still continue to act. So there's lots of instances

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<v Speaker 2>where you can use deep fake. And I know a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of episodes ago. I think it's a Scandinavian film

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<v Speaker 2>about an alien abduction where the cast wrote performed in

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<v Speaker 2>their native tongue, and then they re voiced all of

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<v Speaker 2>the parts in English, but rather than reacting it, they

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<v Speaker 2>just did the voices and then the lips were made

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<v Speaker 2>to move with the English movements by using deep fake.

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<v Speaker 2>They watched it because I've been I just rewatched the

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<v Speaker 2>series that I really liked on Netflix called Young Royals,

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<v Speaker 2>and the cast re recorded the whole thing in English,

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<v Speaker 2>which is so much better than getting just a random

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<v Speaker 2>actor to voice the character. But they didn't dub. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the lips are still speaking, you know, in the foreign tongue,

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<v Speaker 2>and it would have been great if they could lip

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<v Speaker 2>sync it because it looked even better. But those sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of things make a big difference. And that's where it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been using it properly. Someone else recently, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember, someone famous gave a talk and then they

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<v Speaker 2>use deep fake to translate into about eight or nine

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<v Speaker 2>different languages, so they didn't speak the other languages, but

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<v Speaker 2>they were able to use it to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>bring that message or whatever it was in multiple languages

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<v Speaker 2>using deep fake as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that just AI? It's not all deep like deep

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<v Speaker 1>fake seems something dodgy, but It's like, isn't it just

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<v Speaker 1>AI generated whatever? Isn't like CGI computer generated imagery? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're putting in scenes that weren't in there, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that the same? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>AI, artificial intelligence is the method for doing it. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're using AI tools and that's where it comes. So

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're using AI tools as a scammer or a fraudster,

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<v Speaker 2>or if it's a politician or trying to sway public opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the tools that they're using.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I'm saying is if we're say, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>someone like I think Paul Walker. You know that actor

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Walker. He passed away right through filming one of

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<v Speaker 1>The Fast and the Furious. I could have this wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like they did a couple of scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, which was CGI because he'd passed away. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't call that deep fake because we all know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Do you know what I mean anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>Semantics, Yeah, the semantics the term deep fake. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>get what you're saying to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's associated with deception, whereas this is just like just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, computer generated stuff that make something better.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess if you d age an actor, it is

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<v Speaker 2>a deep faking. The actor. It's not the real person.

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<v Speaker 2>It's using a technique, whether it AI or advanced CGI,

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<v Speaker 2>probably using some sort of AI. But it is effectively

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<v Speaker 2>a deep The term is still deep fake. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the umbrella term for whom you led an

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<v Speaker 2>image to be different than what it was by superimposing

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<v Speaker 2>or making them younger, or putting another face on another person.

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<v Speaker 2>So effectively, that is deep fake.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tiff, you and I are deep faking right now

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<v Speaker 1>because we've got filters on our things. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>do I have a filter. I don't think I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody who uses a filter on zoom's deep faking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is not more a real mustache.

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<v Speaker 2>You look good with that though. The top hat was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I wish you'd shave your hairy

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders though. Yeah, Patrick, tell us, I don't know. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about reusable water bottles that are a breeding

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<v Speaker 1>ground for horrible things.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you're drinking out of now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yeah, but I'm doing that. I'm having lots of

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>breeding ground activity for my gut biome. It's my Chinese

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>doctor told me to well, my Chinese medicine doctor, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, who happens to be Chinese?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the market, the global market for reusable water bottles

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<v Speaker 2>is valued at about ten billion dollars. Okay, so it's very, very,

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<v Speaker 2>very big. But the question is is that every year,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you've got a reusable bottle, you shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>buying what every year? Should you? Anyway? Short of it

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<v Speaker 2>is the problem that you have with that is some

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.439
<v Speaker 2>drink bottles have those pop up straws or they have

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<v Speaker 2>a narrow opening and it's plastic and be a breeding ground.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've read reports where they say you should clean

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 2>your water bottle every day, every single day. You should

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 2>wash it out and clean it, sterilize it like hot water,

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 2>and clean it properly. But yeah, so basically there's been

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 2>studies done specifically looking at people who are using water

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<v Speaker 2>bottles on a daily basis and how often, so that

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the researchers were saying, well, how clean are the bottles

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<v Speaker 2>that people are using on a daily basis. We know

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to do the right thing, not waste plastics,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we're trying to do the right thing, But

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<v Speaker 2>is that a good thing from our perspective? Because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>most people, well not most people, but there's a chance

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<v Speaker 2>that you might have fecal bacteria on your hands that

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.919
<v Speaker 2>you flip the lid on it, and certainly you've passed

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 2>that on to the straw. Sorry, tiff TIFFs start having

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<v Speaker 2>dinner tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, but I mean the funny thing is, though, right,

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<v Speaker 4>we all, I mean you would be we would all

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<v Speaker 4>be surprised how many people, like we go fecal bacteria.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so probably everyone has a bit of that on

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<v Speaker 1>them somewhere. It's like, but people think, oh no, that's

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, no. We were talking to doctor Bill,

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>doctor Bill Sullivan who you probably don't know, Patrick, but

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<v Speaker 1>he comes on the show from Indiana State University, is

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<v Speaker 1>like professor of micro biology or something, and he was

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about one of the reasons people get so sick

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.640
<v Speaker 1>is because our environment is so sanitized. He's like, we

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>need dirt, we need germs.

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Like we need on your water bottle, Patrick.

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need back. Exactly, have a little bit of

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>kaka in your cam Butcher. It's probably kaka in your

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>cam Butcher anyway, Patrick, it's probably twelve percent kaka, which

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>is why it's so good for your gut. You don't

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 1>need to do the old poop pills up the old date.

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>You can just do that. I mean that is literally

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:44.439
<v Speaker 1>a medical yeah, but I just think that we, you know,

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.400
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five, we just worried, you know, for

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>us living in first world luxury. Oh, for God's sake,

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>stop being so no pun intended, but anal it's like,

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, just you know, we don't have to

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>be wiping and sanitizing everything, and not only that, where

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>we fuck up our immune system because we have no

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>exposure to some of the bacteria we should. But then

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>on top of that you layer the anxiety that people

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>have about this ship, which makes them even worse. So

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>now we've got mental health issues around everything being fucking sanitized,

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and that makes people sick too. You know what, for

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the last timeline of humanity, we have not done all

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the things that we do around this ship, John pay

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Owning a dog is probably the best way to get

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>a mix of bacteria, because I don't know about you, Tiff,

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:39.959
<v Speaker 1>does Luna ever slip the tongue in?

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>You know me too?

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Fritz does same me. You get a bit close after

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.479
<v Speaker 1>licking his balls, then he's licking your lips so fucking

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>forget all your hygiene, I said, cat, though I picked

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Fritz doesn't have balls.

0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 2>No, well, his previous owners took him to the vet

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>when he was a little.

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Wow, like father, like son? What? What? Sorry? Sorry? What? Sorry?

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I just it just broke up. Then, come on, Patrick,

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>jump back on your list.

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Off this topic fast. What about do you before you

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>go to bed?

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I love it when you get tongue tied. It's so

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>good because you never get tongue tied. Yeah, before I

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>go to bed? Yeah, keep going.

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 2>How long before you go to bed? Do you look

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 2>at a screen TV?

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>If I'm being honest, If I'm being honest, I'm in

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>bed watching TV. I'm terrible at this, but I don't. Yeah,

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm the worst example of what to do. I tell

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>people what to do, but I I sleep like a

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>rock though, so I don't know that.

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm Wow.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>You drink I'm drinking coffee right now, seats.

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm drinking It's.

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Five point thirty. I'm drinking coffee, and I'll have a

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>cup of tea. I often take a cup of tea

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to bed and watch Telly, so my brain has all

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the stimulants.

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow. A Norwegian study CRAGO involving more than forty five

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 2>thousand students. Right. Yes, that when they used screens in

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 2>bed for one hour after the lights out, increased their

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 2>risk of insomnia by fifty nine percent and shortened their

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 2>total sleep by twenty five minutes per night.

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe it, and you believe it, but it doesn't.

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's not for everyone, but it's it's generally true, though. Yeah,

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>doing what I do. Say to people don't do what

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I do. It's terrible.

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I try to not look at my phone and listen

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>to an audio book or a podcast before I go

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>to bed, so black out the room. I have a

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 2>total totally blacked out room, even mine. I've got a

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 2>digital clock that projects onto the ceiling. It's a little

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 2>led display. And then what I do is, I've got

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>two pillows and I pushed the pillows across so that

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>covers the laser and that way I don't even get

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the glow of the red lights that reflected. It's totally

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>got to be totally black.

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, cook, Do you have a particular sleep protocol.

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I now try and get off the phone an

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 3>hour before before bed. And the phone lives in the

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 3>kitchen of a night, so I can't look at it

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 3>or no, it's there because we know that keeps the

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 3>brain active, or it does for me, and I have

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 3>to read a real book. Ohne, I've got a protocol

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 3>that is working, and my sleep's gone up about an

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 3>average a half hour night, which is phenomenal. I'm having

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 3>some good having some good times with that new with

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>that protocol.

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>The only thing that I do is I listened to

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got this repeat. Basically it sounds like surf, like

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>crashing waves, which I played pretty much every night, and

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many waves are here crash, but

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not that many. I've got forty minutes of crashing

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>waves and surf. It's like just But when I play

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>like even gentle music, it distracts me because of the

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>different the different instruments. But if it's essentially like white

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>noise or brown noise or green noise or any of those,

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>where it's a constant, yeah, I fall asleep straight up.

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting. My digital clock that you know, the fancy

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 2>one with the laser that points the time onto the roof.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>It also has pre recorded wave sounds. What else does

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it have? You know, like creek babbling brook like when

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 2>through the trees, I not never want to turn that

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 2>on and have a listen. Isn't that funny? I should?

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>It should? It could be, It could be the could

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>be the thing that gets you over the line. Tell

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>us why we wouldn't charge our phone when we're renting

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a car.

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh see, you know it's funny. I did this little

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>story or I put it aside in our notes previous

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>previous podcast, and we didn't get a chance to talk

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 2>about it. And it was that very same day I

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>was getting my car service, do you remember, Yeah, And

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>so I'd done that very thing. I plugged my car,

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 2>my phone into the car so I could use my

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>GPS and Android Auto and it hadn't even occurred to me.

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>And the reality of it is, when you are in

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>a courtesy car and you plug your phone in, potentially

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>it can be synchronizing with your phone, taking your contacts off,

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 2>sharing your contacts with the vehicle. And if someone knew

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 2>what they were doing, they could go back. And I've

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>found this before. If you ever got into a courtesy

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>car and you've hooked up by Wi Fi or hooked

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>up by cable, and you can see other people, other

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 2>users who've used the car. Have you ever seen that?

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I have not, but I believe that would. Yeah, it

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't surprise me.

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>So that's the reality. When you plug in a cable,

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 2>and it may even just be to charge your phone,

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 2>you think, oh, you had better charge the phone. Well,

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>potentially you could be transferring information between your phone and

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 2>your car. And most car companies, no rental companies, have

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>zero policy because it wouldn't occur to them to have

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 2>a policy about the privacy of your data if it

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 2>gets taken sucked up by the car that you're using

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 2>as a high car. Do you reckon?

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>We already live in a time where, in Australia anyway,

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty much impossible to have a technology free life. Yeah,

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that's a tough one. That's a tough like, it's pretty impossible,

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. I mean when you think of banking and

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>payments and bills and like, unless you live off the

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>grid in the middle of nowhere and grow your own

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>food and have your own water and generate your own

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>electricity and have your own medicine, Like, think about all

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>of the things that you need to not just subsist

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>but exist and potentially thrived be very hard to have

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>no or to not be connected. I don't mean no technology.

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can have a generator or whatever if that's technology,

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>but I mean technology technology. I think we're almost past

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>that time, aren't we.

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I think we would risk being well for most of

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>us the way we engage. And you talked about things

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 2>like banking, it's getting increasingly difficult to do any sort

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 2>of banking unless you're doing it online. I went to

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 2>our local community bank recently to withdraw some money. I

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 2>don't normally use cash. In fact, I don't think I've

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>used cash since before COVID, so it's been what five

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>years or something. But the interesting thing is I got

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>my cards out. So I'm standing there with my wallet,

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>which just sits in my glovebox because again I don't

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 2>use it, and I'm putting all the different cards and

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 2>about five cards, and I put them into the cash

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 2>machine and they're all popping out and it's like none

0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>of these work, Like I'm not getting any money out.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Manager came out and what the hell are you doing?

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Because I know the manager and she's and she said, no, no,

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 2>none of your cards are enabled for ATM. It's like

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 2>what she said, no, no, none of the cards are

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 2>enabled for ATM because you don't get any interest if

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 2>you've got an account that has ATM access, But if

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>you have no ATM access, then you earn interest. And

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, how do I get money out? I

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 2>just come in to the bank and we'll you know,

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 2>we'll do it across the counter. I had no idea.

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 2>It had been five years since I've used an ATM,

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 2>and I realized that none of my cards work in

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>an ATM.

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>So what did you need cash for? Were you going

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>to see your mate that you're building a website for?

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>What did I need cash for? I don't know cash

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I needed cash for. I had one of my colleagues

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 2>had a birthday and I wanted to put cash in.

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Actually both of them, two colleagues had a birthday. One

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 2>of them just turned eighteen, and so I wanted to

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>put some cash in a card for him, and I

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>ended up getting one of those debit cards because he

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 2>wants to travel M. I thought to be easier just

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 2>getting the cash out and giving that and my other

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 2>colleague as a surprise, I put three hundred bucks into

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:05.919
<v Speaker 2>his card.

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>We were very nice.

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:08.800
<v Speaker 2>He didn't say.

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't give to express something in return, you just

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>be nice. Come on, and now you've spoken about it publicly,

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>you're really really reaching, aren't you.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 2>He's not going to listen to the podcast.

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Scientists tell us that working from home makes us happier.

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I reckon, that's a bit. I hate it when they

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:35.320
<v Speaker 1>say generalize things. Yeah, it's like, well, does it everyone?

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 1>All the people? I don't know. I hate it when

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>they make unequivocal statements. No, we did some research and

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>with the people that we looked at in general, the

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:50.399
<v Speaker 1>people that we looked at, I don't know. I feel

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.959
<v Speaker 1>like there's a lot of people that don't come under

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that banner. But it's an interesting conversation starter.

0:35:55.560 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, four year Australian study, this is and this came.

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 2>This has all come to the four post COVID or

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 2>during COVID, I should say, you know, I've been running

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 2>a business from home for what twenty six years? And

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, at one point you'd almost embarrassingly say that

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>you're working from home. But now it's become the done thing,

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>and you know, because a lot of people were forced

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 2>to do that, and there's legislation being enacted in Victoria

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 2>to make it compulsory for employers to allow staff to

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 2>work at least two days a week from home if

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 2>it's practicable. I mean, if you work in a factory,

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>that's not going to happen, but it makes sense. So

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>this this started, this study began just before the pandemic

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and they was the University of South Australia and they

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 2>looked at teleworkers, so you know, and the impact on

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.240
<v Speaker 2>their lives and they said that.

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>When what's a teleworker, you mean someone who's on the

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>phone and does.

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Just working remotely. So tell so basically anybody who works

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:08.359
<v Speaker 2>from home and is remotely yeah, so I mean yeah,

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 2>So the pandemic was accelerated the ability to work you know,

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 2>basically from home for anybody you know who was an

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>office worker. But media, it seems that the immediate effect

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 2>of working from home was better sleep. So that was

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:25.479
<v Speaker 2>one of the things because on average, remote workers gained

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 2>an extra thirty minutes of rest overnight. And that makes

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 2>sense because if you're not commuting to work, then you

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 2>have more time after work knocks off to do all

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 2>the things that we have to do to live our lives,

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.280
<v Speaker 2>which means we then are able to get to bed earlier.

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Potentially and be able to get that extra sleep that

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 2>we all absolutely need.

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 1>So does that mean I'm going to have to go

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and do my corporate gigs in people's homes? Good a, Brian,

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for a workshop. It's just you and me.

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Imagine if people stop going the corporate I'm fucked. Yeah,

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>what am I going to do? Yeah? I don't know.

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it'll snuggle at your place.

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we could do it in the front yard,

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I think though, I understand it, but it seems like

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>everything's geared towards the employee, not the employer, like the

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 1>people who are actually paying them. It's like, can you go, okay,

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>we actually want you to be when you work. We

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>want you to be in the workplace. And it's like

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>if you say that, like you're a bad person. I'm like,

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there are a lot of jobs, like

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>if you're a mechanic or a builder, or any kind

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>of tradee or a school teacher or and I know

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>you can do some of that. I just think that

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where. And I totally understand it, and

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm all for better conditions for employees, But when does

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the tail stop wagging the dog? Like when does the

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>person who's paying the person have some right to say,

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I actually want you here because I want to be

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>able to just talk to you frequently, and I want

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to be able to build an environment we've got a

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>team of creatives in the same room, or I don't know,

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>like it feels for me, who's employed people to then

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>be told, oh, you can't you you have no control

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.839
<v Speaker 1>over any of this. You've just got to do what

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you're told and pay everyone and shut the fuck up.

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I don't know that that would work

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of businesses.

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Look, I agree with you. I've got to say, when

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:35.320
<v Speaker 2>my employee works from home, I'm less likely to engage.

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 2>We have phone calls and we chat, but I always

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm imposing on him. So if I have

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 2>a phone call and I hang up and then I

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>think of something thirty seconds later that I've meant to mention,

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 2>and I call it a Willoson imposition. Whereas when he's

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 2>in the office with me, oh, I joined a quick

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.360
<v Speaker 2>read of this email before I send it, you know,

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 2>I go over to him and say, how's this job

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you're working on going, And I'll have a look and

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 2>we'll see what he's working on. It's like I'll make

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.919
<v Speaker 2>a couple of suggestions, but that doesn't work when he's

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 2>working remotely. I absolutely know that he's very good at

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 2>working remotely, and I get that, and it's good for

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 2>him because he can take his daughter to day care.

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 2>So two days a week he works from home, you know,

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 2>four three days he's in the office. But I feel

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 2>we're more productive when we're in the same room together,

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 2>and I feel I'm supported because I like to bounce

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 2>ideas off and you know me, I hate to talk.

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we know, I notice, But I also I don't know.

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess there's no right wrong with this. But I

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>also think depending on the workplace and the culture. But

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I know lots of people who actually really like their

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>job and they like where they work. And I know

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 1>people who also hate their job. But going to a

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>place where you've got friends and colleagues that you do

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 1>cool stuff with together and it is a good environment. Now,

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I know this is not every workplace, but I also

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>think there's something to be said for getting out of

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the house, going somewhere. Yeah.

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I do that because I teach, and that's

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>a great way to get out and do that. I mean,

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm at the gym in the morning and then walking Fritz,

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>so I spend at least two hours out of the

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 2>house even before I start work. But I love it

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 2>when I have an excuse to leave and if I

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 2>can have them. The other day, I think I told

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 2>you I got very excited because I'm a nerd and

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 2>we just opened a new library in Bland. It's very exciting.

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 2>But I I had a meeting with a client and

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I just said, let's go to the library and meet

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>there because I've got meeting rooms and stuff, and it

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 2>was awesome just to be able to get out of

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 2>the house and meet somewhere different.

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not nineteen eighty two, don't you. We

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 1>got a library? What, Tiff? Can I ask you a question?

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 1>We've got a library. God, wait till the internet gets

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 1>to Bland. You guys are going to go nuts. Hey,

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 1>tif are you What are your thoughts on self driving cars?

0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Would you get in a self driving car? Would you go, hey,

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>take me to the gym and just sit in the

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>back seat and let yourself be driven.

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't even do you know what

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 3>I find weird. I've seem to have an issue with

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 3>the sound of electric cars when they drive past me.

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.879
<v Speaker 3>The they freak me out. I feel like I'm in

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:21.919
<v Speaker 3>some weird I don't know it's weird. So I don't

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 3>know how you feel about them.

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, tell even eyes that you're hearing. That's about the

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>sound that you get in.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.839
<v Speaker 3>They've got this weird there's this weird noise that goes

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 3>bast I feel like I'm a sort of cipher. I'm

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 3>not repeating it. You're not bullying me.

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well they're they're on their way in Australia, as

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.439
<v Speaker 1>Patrick will tell us in a moment, but also they're

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>already in California. There's already taxis and a bunch of

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 1>other things, which, yeah, so you order a cab, it

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:56.359
<v Speaker 1>comes to your house driverless, you get in and it

0:42:56.400 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>takes you where you're going, and you're the only person

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 1>in the car. That's that's got to be interesting for

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>your first time doing that.

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, at the moment. In Australia, Tesla has been allowed

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 2>to enable what they call full self driving, but there's

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 2>a caveat it's called supervised self driving, so you have

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 2>to be sitting at the steering will ready to take over.

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:21.879
<v Speaker 2>So you you know, you can't be sitting around having

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 2>a nap. You can't be sitting in the passenger seat.

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 2>It's TIFF's given me this blank look. But what the

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>hell is the point?

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw a video of a dude coming in a

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Tesla from Sydney to Melbourne and he's got to sit

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>there like, I think it's more stressful than just driving,

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 1>because he's got to be fucking sitting there with his

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>hands at the ten to two but not on the wheel,

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 1>but just ready at any moment for a fucking ten

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>hour drive to take what's the point? I'm with you.

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to sit in the back and have a

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:57.399
<v Speaker 1>snoozy mcsnoozeter. Well, watch your video looking to happen.

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:03.240
<v Speaker 2>I got to say that I use like assisted cruise

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 2>control in my car and lane assist, so my car

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.879
<v Speaker 2>will use adaptive cruise control. If the car in front

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 2>of me starts to slow down, the cruise control will

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 2>slow down accordingly and maintain the distance. It's safer if

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 2>someone jams on their brakes, the car potentially Well, I've

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 2>actually had this one. I've reversed into my driveway because

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't trimmed the hedge well enough, I started reversing.

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Such a metaphor.

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good usually at trimming the hedge. Yeah, I

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:34.760
<v Speaker 2>like to keep it tidy. As I reversed into the drive,

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the car slammed on the brakes, So it's like, what

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the hell just happened? Did I hit something? And it

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 2>was just that the bush was poking out a little bit,

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.760
<v Speaker 2>and so I subsequently got out of my heage trimmer

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 2>and trim the hedge.

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Notice how quiet I am here? Yeah?

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, But those things are handy. So if you're

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 2>reversing and a child ran out in front of you

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and you didn't see them, or a dog, a cat,

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>then your car potentially.

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>We get that. That's the old technology. Patrick, twenty nineteen.

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Suzuki's got all that shit. Let's talk about No, stop

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>distracting us with your bullshit, Mazda, Let's go back to

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>fucking Oh, I guess what my car's got, adaptive cruise control.

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Fucking hell, that's a newsplash. Let's talk about Tesla's that

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.720
<v Speaker 1>can drive you around while you're sitting in the back seat.

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>When is that actually happening?

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, the foot well, not in the back seat. Because

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 2>it's a legislative not technology. So legislatively, no government in

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.919
<v Speaker 2>Australia is going to let a car on the road

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 2>that's full self driving. They want ever like ever at

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 2>the moment, at the moment, they prove themselves. So the

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 2>argument from Tesla is that cameras don't blink, they don't

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:52.760
<v Speaker 2>get tired, they don't get distracted, and so potentially having

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 2>that car in that autonomous mode of full self driving

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 2>mode is going to be safer even if you're sitting

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 2>there at ten to two ready to take over control,

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>because the car will react better than what they're claiming.

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 2>The car will react better than what a human driver will.

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right, and I think also I think

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>they're right. I think we don't want to think about that.

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.439
<v Speaker 1>But you know, every now and then you go, oh,

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>a Tesla ran over four people, or it did this

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>or that, But you think about all the human error

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>accidents that happen every day all around the world. I

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I would say they are far there's going

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>to be even when we do have full automated self

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 1>driving cars. I would think there will be accidents, but

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it will be I could be wrong, but

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:43.919
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it'll be overwhelmingly safer than humans doing

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the job. For the reason that you said, yes, Tiff, yes,

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you're with your hand up in row four. I love

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>it when you put up your hand like you're at school. Everyone.

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I just say, your camera has changed. It keeps zooming

0:46:57.800 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>in and out on you.

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.359
<v Speaker 3>What's that about, zoomer me if I wanted it to

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 3>do that? And I said, that sounds great, zoom let's

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 3>do it.

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And every now, every time you put your head in

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 1>your hands, which is every two minutes, we see the

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 1>top of a scone. You got a little dandruff. Bro,

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know. I'm just just letting you know.

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe just some.

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 3>Coind quite a few silver hairs sprouting through, by the way,

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:21.359
<v Speaker 3>But that's not what my hand was raised for. It

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 3>was to say, my biggest concern is, as if people

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 3>aren't going to hack them hack everything else, people are

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 3>going to hack that shit and crazy stuff will happen.

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'm with you on that. Yeah, that's like I mean,

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>it's essentially a computer on wheels, as if they're not

0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be hacked.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh look, and now I'm doing one hundred and eighty

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 1>kilometers an hour towards that tree. Oh and I'm a

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 1>politician that people or whatever it is like, Yeah, that

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that scares me. Yeah, Patrick fixed that wair if you could.

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 1>If you could, Patrick, fix that and get back.

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 2>To us, I will all right to do list Craigo.

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you could. I know you've got not much

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:07.399
<v Speaker 1>on can you. I want to jump ships a little bit.

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Dutch designers innovate tiny home. I'm a bit obsessed with

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>tiny homes everyone. I think I'd like to live in

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 1>one for a year or two. Tiny home inside recycled

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 1>wind turbine. It's either that or those buddy shipping containers.

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind a good shipping container.

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.359
<v Speaker 2>That's been frocked up a bit, especially when you get

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.360
<v Speaker 2>them on top of each other where they're offset.

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>And you can yeah, like a big genger kind of thing.

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, tetris like in the Tetris.

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is because one of the I mean, it's.

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Great that there are a lot of wind turn bides

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 2>around now. I don't know if you've ever been up

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 2>close and personal next to a wind turbine, but they're gigantic, like,

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 2>they're massively big, and the problem is the environmental sustainability

0:48:56.400 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 2>of these once they become decommissioned. And so I have

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a chuckle when I saw the name

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 2>of this eco friendly innovation. It's called Nestle, which could

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>be pronounced nestle or nestlay. So it's either I'm going

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 2>to eat it, or I'm going to live in it

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 2>because could be a block of chocolate, mate.

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:15.919
<v Speaker 1>Or I'm going to snuggle up next to it. Yeah.

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So each of the units measures about three hundred

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 2>and seventy six square feet. So what's that about, like

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 2>a square, like one hundred square meters or something? No,

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.440
<v Speaker 2>how much three hundred and seventy what three hundred and

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 2>seventy six square feet?

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's like twenty feet by twenty feet just under

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's like five meters by four meters, which is like, no, no, no, no,

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:41.240
<v Speaker 1>it's tiny.

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 2>What's that in square meters? Though, because I don't know

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 2>square feet, I should have probably done the calculations.

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well it's like is five by four is twenty

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 1>square meters?

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Are twenty square meters? Okay, that sounds good. So they

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:59.399
<v Speaker 2>are making these really great little stylish you know, they're

0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 2>using European Well they're getting people to kind of move

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:07.400
<v Speaker 2>into them. And it sounds like the perfect way to

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 2>recycle and repurpose these turbine parts. And you know, I

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:15.880
<v Speaker 2>lived in a caravan for about three years. When I

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 2>was about sixteen, I bought a caravan and moved out

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.239
<v Speaker 2>into the backyard and it was I had my own

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 2>little what why are you laughing at me?

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I bought a caravan and I moved out. Where'd you go?

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 1>The backyard? What? Yeah? Seven feet from mum so she

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>could wash my clothes and make my dinner.

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I had it in com too, so I could just

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 2>press to see when it was ready to.

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mum's dinner ready. And also, what about my jocks?

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:42.840
<v Speaker 1>What's the status on those? It's a status on my jocks?

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Over hell on pathnic. Can you impersonate your mum for me? Please? No?

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I would not I would not go that far, my

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 2>lovely mother. I wouldn't do that. Actually I couldn't.

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 2>It's funny. I do a really good Maltese accent, but

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 2>when I heard my parents talk, couldn't hear their accent?

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:04.919
<v Speaker 1>Wow? Well let's hear it. Let's hear your really good

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Maltese accent. Well, can we say to everyone you are

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Maltese by heritage.

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:13.040
<v Speaker 2>By heritage, demoritese accent sounds like this. If I talk

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 2>about the Dutch engineers who innovate the tiny hole wind,

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:18.720
<v Speaker 2>say his say cold wind turbine.

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh that's pretty good, dude, that's pretty good. Wow,

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that's better than my Irish, which I'm not doing accent.

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Mind, I can do an Irish accent till the cows

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:33.399
<v Speaker 2>come home.

0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're pretty good at that. That's the voiceover man

0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>in you coming out. Tip. Would you like to live

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.799
<v Speaker 1>in a tiny home for a year or two? I'd

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>love to, I reckon be all right with a pet

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.399
<v Speaker 1>horse if I was. Imagine if you were stinking rich

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and you just build an estate of tiny homes, had

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>like a thousand tiny homes, I wonder, and you could

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:56.719
<v Speaker 1>sell them for like one hundred and twenty grand, so

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 1>everyone could, Well not everyone could, but you know what

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's what's the median price of a house

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>in Melbourne? A trillion dollars? What do you get for

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>one hundred grand? You get a letterbox and a yakka

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:09.719
<v Speaker 1>next to it.

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Hucknell Well countries are looking into the affordability and trying

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 2>to get people into the housing market by producing eco

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 2>sustainable housing like the shipping containers and now this idea

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 2>of having a recycled wind turbine. But it would be

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.919
<v Speaker 2>so good for young people. I look at my young

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 2>people that I know, my friend's kids, and you think,

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:35.800
<v Speaker 2>how the hell you know if you live in Hampton,

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.360
<v Speaker 2>how the hell are you ever going to buy in Hampton?

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 2>And this is happening in a lot of places where

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:44.479
<v Speaker 2>young people are being displaced from the suburbs they grew

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.800
<v Speaker 2>up in because they can't afford to buy in that suburb.

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 2>So it's happening in a lot of towns where you've

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:55.760
<v Speaker 2>got resort towns, so places four Key and Ocean Grove.

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 2>So if you grew up there surfing as a kid,

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 2>once you get to the point where you may want

0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 2>to move out of home and buy a place, it's

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:06.880
<v Speaker 2>too out of the spectrum because it's too expensive. They

0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 2>can't they can't buy in the town that they grew

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:10.440
<v Speaker 2>up in.

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:13.920
<v Speaker 1>That's why everyone head to the land. That's where it's at.

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 1>That's it's Patrick starting a cult pretty soon.

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 2>That'd be good leader, do you Beckon? I could be

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:21.800
<v Speaker 2>a cult leader? Maybe On edit career change.

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 1>You could definitely be involved in a cult. I feel

0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:28.880
<v Speaker 1>more like you'd be the wife of the cult leader.

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>You so i'm your missus pretty much pretty much, you

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 1>could be my wife. I don't want to be a

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:40.759
<v Speaker 1>cult leader. No, I don't know. You're more You're not

0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that bossy. I mean you're definitely, You're definitely smart enough

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:48.240
<v Speaker 1>if you wanted. But I don't think you want a cult.

0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want a cult? Who wants a cult?

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 2>If in this conversation these three windows, who's the cult

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 2>leader out of the three?

0:53:56.000 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's no one. It might be Tiff, it might

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you might be two, I see, and I might just

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 1>do security at the front gate, heeping out the Feds.

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 1>He carries about she could be a cult leader. Well,

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 1>she kind of is, Hey, can you do one more

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:15.759
<v Speaker 1>story because I need to go and eat food because

0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting like TIF, I'm getting angry. You're a bit

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 1>angry at the moment. Yep, yeah, ye, So can you

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:24.279
<v Speaker 1>can you shove it along a little bit?

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Sheeers, I can't find the story. I'm just going to

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 2>talk about it anyway. So Radian we talked about a

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 2>few Australian innovations and I love it when Australians come

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:37.160
<v Speaker 2>up with innovations. But some scientists in Australia have come

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:40.720
<v Speaker 2>up with a way too. And you'll love this because

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:43.839
<v Speaker 2>I know you like to lurk around your suburb at

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 2>night to give people. I I resemble that comment, Patrick,

0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 2>because I know my friends say that you walked us

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:54.240
<v Speaker 2>their house.

0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I do. That's I think I must be the hamp

0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and fucking weirdo because I'm out in the dark like

0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:04.280
<v Speaker 1>a ninja. People just go, what is wrong with that guy?

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I know?

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I apologize, I'm friendly. You can say hello.

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Now They've got an ultra thin film that can turn

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 2>ordinary glasses into night vision goggles if you wanted to

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:18.680
<v Speaker 2>buy night vision goggles. We've seen him in the movies,

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, the special ops people they wear those big

0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 2>chunky rectangus. Getting rid of all of that. So straights

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 2>come up with a new way that could potentially transform

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:31.239
<v Speaker 2>how we walk around at night. And that could just

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 2>be as simple as you not tripping over something when

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 2>you're out evening walk. You know, I'm not suggesting it's

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:42.160
<v Speaker 2>for nefarious reasons that Craig may want to have night

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:45.800
<v Speaker 2>vision when he goes out for his walk. But there's organization.

0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 2>It's the ARC Center of Excellence for transformative meta optical systems.

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Of course it is. Do you know what else would

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:57.279
<v Speaker 1>be good? If they could have heat detecting in it

0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 1>as well, so I can see, you know, where live

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:02.400
<v Speaker 1>things are as I move across the urban landscape.

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Just turn it back to creepy.

0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 1>That's just for personal security. It is, it is, I reckon,

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 1>it's yes, I was going to talk about something else. No,

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I would like a pair of those? Would you like

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a pair of those?

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:17.879
<v Speaker 3>Though?

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely, it makes it would make night vision much

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 2>more accessible as well, so because it's at the moment

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 2>it's really just soldiers and people working professional bird watches

0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 2>or something. But the no, it could be really good

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 2>to have that for safety and for lots of other

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:37.319
<v Speaker 2>reasons as well well. Even driving at night. You could

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 2>potentially be driving and not have your headlocks on.

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, gee, let's try that, shall we? Hey, everyone,

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:47.840
<v Speaker 1>let's just do a little social experiment, automotive experiment. Let's no,

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:49.719
<v Speaker 1>let's not do that for.

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 3>A night time we and not having to turn the

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.239
<v Speaker 3>lights on and wake yourself up with all the blue light.

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's such an issue. Isn't it when you get

0:56:57.840 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 1>up and you need a Wii and you turn that

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:02.399
<v Speaker 1>shit on and it's like fox up your sleep. Yeah,

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that's why I just go. I think this is the

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 1>toilet in front of me. I'll do my best and

0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll deal with it at six am. What's all that

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>splashing on my calves? What's that? And my shins? Hold it?

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Crago?

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Or you can always you know, you can always

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>sit down, but that's not you don't want to do

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that when you're a boy. Do you do.

0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>You remember we had a train at Harper's whose wife

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:31.320
<v Speaker 2>made him sit down?

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that a trainer at Harper's who's do

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 1>not tell us the name on air, but definitely tell

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>us what do you mean he's oh, so that he

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't piss everywhere?

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Yep, he's under strict instructions. You have to sit down,

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:46.520
<v Speaker 2>not to let us stand up.

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's wow. I need to dissown whoever that

0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:54.240
<v Speaker 1>was before you even tell me who that was? Patrick? Whereon?

0:57:54.360 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 1>People learn about you and what you do, and join

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 1>your cult and come and stay at your house.

0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Overnight websites noow dot com today you is the main

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 2>website or you could get them chi at home dot

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:11.919
<v Speaker 2>com today you if you feel like you just want

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:13.920
<v Speaker 2>to hang out and do tie chi with me.

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Perfect both ways.

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:20.560
<v Speaker 2>And also, thank you so much, we finally got someone

0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 2>who kind of had some feedback. That was great that

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Jane took the trouble to ask us to talk about something.

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 2>So if you want to talk to us something, just

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 2>go to websitesnow dot com today.

0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:34.880
<v Speaker 1>You you just made this podcast sound so tragic when

0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you just highlighted that a person sent a question, a

0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 1>person get scarted with them.

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 2>They care looking you know what, people enjoy listening. They

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 2>don't feel they have to contribute, but if they want to,

0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 2>they can, and they sure can.

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Can I say, how funny you look holding what appears

0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 1>to be a bottle of beer in your hands, but

0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it's kom butcher. If we know you're angry, we're going

0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to let you go. But what are you going to

0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:00.040
<v Speaker 1>shove in your face? What's the go to when you're hang.

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.800
<v Speaker 3>The place next door to where I took my clients

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 3>is fair Feed and they have the best home cooked

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:10.080
<v Speaker 3>awesome chef prepared, not home cooked chef prepared me. So

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I got I can't remember I bought, but I bought

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:14.600
<v Speaker 3>some slow cooked meats. I'm going to whip that up.

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Is that the place where you're going and you get

0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:20.800
<v Speaker 1>food and then you just pay whatever you think is no?

0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:24.600
<v Speaker 3>This place started up around COVID time when we were

0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:29.919
<v Speaker 3>in lockdown, and it's just like a sustainable little establishment

0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:32.680
<v Speaker 3>and they've got chefs there and they cook all that.

0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 3>It's really good food, it's really tasty, and it's really

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 3>awesome priced.

0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:40.960
<v Speaker 1>So is it not for profit? Is my question? Or

0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 1>is it a business?

0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 3>It's a social enterprise right, and they're lovely too, So

0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:51.360
<v Speaker 3>I drop it there once a week when I'm training people.

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Give a shout out. What's their name again? What's the

0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:56.360
<v Speaker 1>business name? Or the social enterprise? What? Fair feed?

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Fair feed? Go get around. It's good, good food and

1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:05.360
<v Speaker 3>soups that make me feel like my nan cooked to them.

1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, can I give you some quick cooking advice because

1:00:07.400 --> 1:00:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I had the most exciting lunch today.

1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Which part about we're finishing the podcast, are you not understanding.

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:15.439
<v Speaker 3>Everybody wants cooking advice from the vegan.

1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:20.200
<v Speaker 1>And also yeah, we're just about we're just winding up

1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:22.240
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, hey, can I telling you no? You

1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:23.160
<v Speaker 1>fucking can't.

1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:26.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm about to go and eat my slow cooked So.

1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Hey, go and tell your story to Fritz. He's probably

1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:34.840
<v Speaker 1>so stick of your stories. Yeah, to see everyone.

1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Bye,