WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 27 November

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray live speak Shun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to it. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>watching us this Wednesday night problem with Vishop Stephen Conroy

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of minutes time. Remember you sent me

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<v Speaker 1>and mlpots Gonews dot com. Do you now you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>today what happened in the Senate? But can I just

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<v Speaker 1>have my say on it? What a bunch of sooks

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<v Speaker 1>Fatima Payman was and Lydia Thorpe as well. If for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason this is the first time you're hearing about it,

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<v Speaker 1>let me see you the fast version. Fatima Payman has

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<v Speaker 1>dual citizenship. She has duel citizenship to Australia, a country

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<v Speaker 1>that she came to as a refugee in Afghanistan, the

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<v Speaker 1>country of which she left and therefore became a refugee.

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<v Speaker 1>She cannot renounce her citizenship from Afghanistan because the Taliban

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<v Speaker 1>won't let her. But of course if you have dual

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<v Speaker 1>citizenship in Australia, then that means you can't be part

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<v Speaker 1>of our parliament. People like Jackie Lamby learnt this lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember she had to leave the parliament before being re

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<v Speaker 1>elected to the parliament and in every single time there

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<v Speaker 1>has been a by election, either the candidate who was

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<v Speaker 1>booted out for this technicality won their place back or

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<v Speaker 1>the party that they represented won their place back. So

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<v Speaker 1>Australians do not believe that it is an ultimate disqualifier.

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<v Speaker 1>But the law is clear that if you have dual citizenship,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't serve in the parliament. Fatima Payment is able

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<v Speaker 1>to serve in the Parliament because no one is willing

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<v Speaker 1>to put her to the test that other dual citizens

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<v Speaker 1>have had to go through. Now, none of that is

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<v Speaker 1>an allegation. All of that is fact, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>that is by her own admission. Well, today in the

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<v Speaker 1>Parliament there was an attempt by Pauline Hansen to refer

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<v Speaker 1>this to the relevant authorities to trigger the potential and

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly obvious removal of Fatima Payment from the Parliament. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course she has her own political party. Now what

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<v Speaker 1>is the Australian's Voice or whatever garbage that is. She

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that she'll be able to get people elected to

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<v Speaker 1>the next election, or she'll be able to get a

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<v Speaker 1>run up of what five and a bit years until

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<v Speaker 1>she's actually up for grabs. But remember it's not Pauline

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<v Speaker 1>Hanson who started this story. It was the Labor Party,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Labor Party knew that this was a scenario

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<v Speaker 1>where Fatima Payman had dual citizenship. But remember she was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting so low on the Labor ticket in Western Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>no one thought she'd win. But because the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 1>did particularly well in Western Australia, she came along for

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<v Speaker 1>the ride because she was part of the governing party.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody was going to rock the boat. And then of

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<v Speaker 1>course she jumped out of the boat and Labor itself

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about going after her on this subject. So

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<v Speaker 1>again today in Parliament there was an attempt to do

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<v Speaker 1>what apparently the Labor Party knew when it came to

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<v Speaker 1>this senator and her status about whether she can or

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<v Speaker 1>can't be in the Parliament. Let's start with Pauline Hanson

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<v Speaker 1>trying to take this to the next level, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Urgent investigation in the Senate payment's eligibility to sit in

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<v Speaker 2>this Parliament under Section forty four. Australians deserve to know

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<v Speaker 2>that every member of this Chamber is eligible under the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 2>no exceptions. Senator payment situation through Uchair raises serious concerns

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<v Speaker 2>if she had been elected during the citizenship crisis of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen seventeen, there is no doubt her case would

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<v Speaker 2>have been referred to the High.

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<v Speaker 3>Court to review.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of this makes sense now, right in fatim

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<v Speaker 1>a payment claims I can't get out of this situation

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<v Speaker 1>because the Taliban won't let me out of this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But her response today and that of Lydia Thorpe, was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>They turned this stuff up to eleven and then try

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<v Speaker 1>to get it to twelve and even thirteen if they

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<v Speaker 1>possibly could. How's this for a ridiculous response to the

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<v Speaker 1>matter that was being raised.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that you would say, just weeks ago to Senator.

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<v Speaker 1>Perouki to Pakistan, you're not just vindictive, mean nasty, you

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<v Speaker 1>bring disgrace to the human race. Really, honestly, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>disgrace to the human race because somebody is saying you

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<v Speaker 1>should be held to the same standard as every other

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<v Speaker 1>person in the Senate and every other person in the

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<v Speaker 1>lower House. Now, this clearly is a new type of

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<v Speaker 1>politics that particularly the identitarians love to play, which is

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as you hold them to the standard of

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else, that's when you're a racist. That's when you're sexist,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you're a homophobe. Now again, she had every

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<v Speaker 1>right to stand there and say, look, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to fix this situation. Clearly I love this country.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the Taliban won't let me off the hook, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. Then you sit down, that's it. But instead

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<v Speaker 1>trying to create a moment to distract from the central

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<v Speaker 1>issue that she herself has admitted is the problem, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work. And also, these identitarian politics politicians need to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that the vast majority of the country does not

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<v Speaker 1>share their hyperbolic views about race, about sex, about gender,

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<v Speaker 1>and about faith. We deal with people based off their

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<v Speaker 1>first name and their character, not from where they come

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<v Speaker 1>or what they look like. No matter how many times

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<v Speaker 1>when these people are being held to the same standards

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<v Speaker 1>as everybody else, they claim what the motivation is behind

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<v Speaker 1>somebody saying that they should be held to the same standards.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, this has always got under my skin as

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<v Speaker 1>a person who has used words for a living and

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<v Speaker 1>given an opinion passionately for a long time. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely realize that when I say something, somebody can say

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<v Speaker 1>something back just as passionately. But you do not get

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to tell me what was in my head

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<v Speaker 1>when I was thinking about what I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 1>What I said is what I said. What you think

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<v Speaker 1>it means? Is you making up motivation? The senator was

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<v Speaker 1>not done with a performance that shows herself not to

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<v Speaker 1>be emotionally mature enough to sit in our federal Parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps the very reason the Labor Party knew that this

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<v Speaker 1>was a person who could be on the ticket because

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<v Speaker 1>of her passion, could be on her ticket, perhaps because

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<v Speaker 1>of the story that she brings and so many bring

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<v Speaker 1>to this country. But perhaps they knew she wasn't ready

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<v Speaker 1>for prime time because she's a passionate person. Yes, in

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<v Speaker 1>her early twenties, but as we all know, the person

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<v Speaker 1>we were in our early twenties is a lot different

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<v Speaker 1>than what we would be by our mid thirties, forties,

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<v Speaker 1>fifties or even older. This is not an emotionally mature

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<v Speaker 1>person reacting to a parliamentary procedure that is not racist.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's not racist. Oh, somebody bring.

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<v Speaker 5>The dictionary, because Santa Hanson does not know the definition

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<v Speaker 5>of racism.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, the idea that because you say, hey, this person

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<v Speaker 1>who by their own admission has dual citizenship and therefore

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<v Speaker 1>potentially to be disqualified from being able to sit in

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<v Speaker 1>the Parliament, the same standard under which multiple members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lower House and some members of the Senate had

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<v Speaker 1>to give up their careers or have their careers interrupted.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Jackie Lamby. Nobody said it was racist when it

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<v Speaker 1>was applying to Jackie Lamby. Why is it racist because

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<v Speaker 1>it applies to Fatoma Payment. Now there's some danger in

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<v Speaker 1>me even saying what I am saying tonight, because unlike

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<v Speaker 1>Fatima Payment, unlike Jackie Lamby, unlike Lydia Thorpe, unlike Pauline Hanson,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have parliamentary privilege where you can stand up

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<v Speaker 1>and say defamatory things like the senator said about Pauline Hansen,

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<v Speaker 1>things that if she had said in the public arena

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<v Speaker 1>there could be potential legal consequences. Now again, the door

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<v Speaker 1>is open if Fatima Payman would like to come into

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<v Speaker 1>the man Cave or our studio in Canberra and try

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<v Speaker 1>to explain what I clearly can't see here. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think what we all saw today was a ridiculous performance,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what it was. It was this volcanic performance

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<v Speaker 1>of emotion and accusation that may well have worked at

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<v Speaker 1>the peak of the Twitter movement when it was called Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the world of x where we are in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, this stuff just rings hollow. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody very well practiced in all of this was Lydia Thorpe,

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<v Speaker 1>who decided, here's an opportunity for me to ring the

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<v Speaker 1>same damn bell that she does at any chance she gets.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an absolute vile act against Senator Payment and I'll

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<v Speaker 4>have her back and any other black or brown woman

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<v Speaker 4>in this place.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean Jackie Lamby had to give it

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<v Speaker 1>up over dual citizenship. Fatima Payman is not defined by

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<v Speaker 1>her racial identity in this question. It's about the dual citizenship. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she will be able to convince an authority a

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<v Speaker 1>call to somebody else that look, I'd love to give

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<v Speaker 1>it up, but I can't give it up because the

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<v Speaker 1>country that needs me to give it up won't let

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<v Speaker 1>me give it up. Maybe that's a way, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute technicality is I'm sorry. Even though that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't sit in the Parliament. But of course Lydia

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't done, and the media was there. Click click click film, film, film,

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<v Speaker 1>write it all down.

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<v Speaker 4>Where's Hanson's legitimate claim to be in this country? Where'd

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<v Speaker 4>she come from? Who's her ancestors? So let's talk about

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<v Speaker 4>section forty four for the white people who came here on.

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<v Speaker 6>Boats again, and I forget it, I'm talking about her,

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<v Speaker 6>which is what she wants, the woman who hates the

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<v Speaker 6>institution but loves getting paid by the institution, loves the

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<v Speaker 6>power of the institution, but hates everything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do these people think that they are convincing to

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<v Speaker 1>their cause?

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<v Speaker 7>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Lydia Thorpe is a politician who has said that she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to seek re election after the next federal election.

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<v Speaker 1>She's here for at least another three years, and given

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<v Speaker 1>Senate timings, it might be slightly longer than that. But

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<v Speaker 1>because she won under the cover of the Greens and

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<v Speaker 1>then pretty obviously was ready to jump early, so she

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<v Speaker 1>could be this character for the next five years. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the character that she's been, the supposed side of politics,

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<v Speaker 1>and this particular politician who allegedly wants to bring people together.

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<v Speaker 1>But every chance she gets here, it is roll the

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<v Speaker 1>verbal grenade in and here we go again, over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. Well, as the vote was taking

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<v Speaker 1>place to refer the senator. Now interestingly, Labor, who had

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<v Speaker 1>spoken in one way, seemed to vote another, but still

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<v Speaker 1>lydia Thorpe then takes the defeated motion and according to

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<v Speaker 1>the Guardian, I have to be very clear, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to quote their headline on this appearing to throw paper

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<v Speaker 1>at Pauline Hansen. Does that look like appearing or she

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<v Speaker 1>actually did it? And then of course the fingers up

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<v Speaker 1>as she leaves the chamber and now very cleverly, technically,

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<v Speaker 1>once you go past the door, that's not the chamber,

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<v Speaker 1>So she did it in the champion'd be different. The response,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, was that she is suspended, not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>participate in the parliamentary debate, not allowed to vote, not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to step onto the floor for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the week, which is one more day, maybe two more days.

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<v Speaker 1>But because things like the Misinformation Bill have disappeared, largely,

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's going to happen and set in the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>for the next couple of days will go through on

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<v Speaker 1>bipartisan support. They don't need her vote. So that's when

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<v Speaker 1>Labor decided.

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<v Speaker 8>You've gone too far.

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<v Speaker 1>You've gone too far. By the way, could somebody Please

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<v Speaker 1>explain to me how an elected politician in this country

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<v Speaker 1>is able to say what Senator Thorpe said today in

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<v Speaker 1>Canberra without there being some sort of a consequence to

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<v Speaker 1>her ability to continue to sit inside our federal Parliament.

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<v Speaker 4>They talk about harmony, they talk about reconciliation, they talk

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<v Speaker 4>about bringing this country together, yet they don't walk the talk.

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<v Speaker 4>They allow racism to continue to hurt us and everybody

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<v Speaker 4>else in this country who is not white. What do

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<v Speaker 4>they want a civil war in this country?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, seriously, think about some of the characters that we've

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<v Speaker 1>had through the Upper House of recent years. What would

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<v Speaker 1>the collective response be of the canber Press gallery to

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<v Speaker 1>a politician saying civil war? Now, there's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be one. There ain't going to be one because the

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<v Speaker 1>extreme majority of Australians again don't care from whence you

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<v Speaker 1>come and what you believe in. They deal with you

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<v Speaker 1>face to face. We all know someone from somewhere else

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<v Speaker 1>we are or someone from somewhere else, including Lydia Thorpe.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality of what she's selling is ridiculous, But just

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<v Speaker 1>like payment, it all goes the way it does. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the Parliament has shown that it has the capacity to

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<v Speaker 1>turn around and say sorry, you do actually have to

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<v Speaker 1>have a certain series of minimum standards to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to turn up in the Parliament and to vote in

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<v Speaker 1>the parliament and to speak in the parliament. Now she's

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<v Speaker 1>an elected person, so she can't be booted out of

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<v Speaker 1>the parliament. But every time she does this stuff, why

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<v Speaker 1>is she not suspended by the Parliament for that sitting week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she'd loved to go off to a court

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<v Speaker 1>and work out whether they have the legal power to

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<v Speaker 1>do so at some point in time. But how is

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<v Speaker 1>our politics any better for somebody talking about civil war

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<v Speaker 1>or making accusations of racism when somebody says the rule

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<v Speaker 1>that says you can't have dual citizenship to sit in

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<v Speaker 1>the Parliament, which affected Jackie Lambey, may well apply to

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<v Speaker 1>the senator who, by her own admission, is in a

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<v Speaker 1>dual citizenship scenario, one she doesn't want to be in,

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<v Speaker 1>one she's trying to get out of. But still, remember

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<v Speaker 1>when Nick Xenophon went through this, nobody was screaming racism

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<v Speaker 1>when they were trying to do it to Josh Friedenberg

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<v Speaker 1>who saying racism, the reality is whether you like or

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<v Speaker 1>dislike and clearly the Australian people do not have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with dual citizenship. Why because, as I said, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who got booted out either came back or the party not.

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<v Speaker 1>None of them lost seats, no one lost ground. But

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<v Speaker 1>because Fatima Payment made her decision to walk away from

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor Party and in my view, has no statistical

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<v Speaker 1>way of getting back into the Parliament, just like Lydia

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<v Speaker 1>Thorpe that somehow everything has to be treated differently. This

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<v Speaker 1>is outrageous, It is ridiculous, and I get it, evil

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<v Speaker 1>white man on television talking about it, but I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to see past this garbage. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>call this stuff out. But you know what, the first sign,

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<v Speaker 1>the first sign of stepping away from this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>inflammatory garbage or rewarding this inflammatory garbage, is that if

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<v Speaker 1>the media wanted to, they could apply the same lack

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<v Speaker 1>of interest that they do to other members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate cross Bench. You don't see many interviews with Jerriet Reddick,

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<v Speaker 1>do you. You don't see appearances on Insiders by Malcolm Roberts.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see much about Ralph Babbitt either, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now these are all legitimately elected members of the cross

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<v Speaker 1>Bench who have the ability to vote whichever way they want,

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<v Speaker 1>but the media just pretends they don't exist, push them

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<v Speaker 1>to one side, no talkie talking about those people, but

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<v Speaker 1>the lady who talks about civil war gets profiled on

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<v Speaker 1>sixty minutes. I'm not even going to get involved in

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<v Speaker 1>double standards and all the rest of it. The media

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<v Speaker 1>make their choices, and I've got a feeling that many

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<v Speaker 1>of them make their choices because they disagree with the

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<v Speaker 1>three that I just showed you who they ignore, and

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<v Speaker 1>parts of them agree with some of the stronger parts

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<v Speaker 1>of Senator Thorpe and Senator Payments Mark. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge pole that dropped today and it tells us yet

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<v Speaker 1>another building block on a foundation of the potential removal

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<v Speaker 1>of Anthony Albernesi as our Prime Minister and Labor as

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<v Speaker 1>the government of the country. Now, every time I say this,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know there's plenty of people who are just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there waiting, because I've said things like I just said,

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting waiting for the first technical mistake to run

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<v Speaker 1>off to the umpire. I don't think that it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a one term government because until I see

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<v Speaker 1>data about the teals the Liberal Party and National Party

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<v Speaker 1>most likely don't get near the seventy six seats required

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<v Speaker 1>to become a majority government but minority. Who knows but

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<v Speaker 1>three issues have absolutely buried Anthony Albernesi. They have since

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<v Speaker 1>almost day one. The bloke who promised to make everything better,

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<v Speaker 1>what cost of living on every possible count. The bloke

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<v Speaker 1>who says that he thinks about the little guy every

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<v Speaker 1>day we now has his hand out for an upgrade

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<v Speaker 1>when he's going on personal flights. And the bloke loves

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<v Speaker 1>spending other people's money, for example himself and every other

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<v Speaker 1>MP not one, not two, but three pay rises since

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<v Speaker 1>the last election, thirty thousand extra public servants, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>the new planes, and all the other money that's been

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<v Speaker 1>pittled up against the wall, including that referendum of four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty million dollars. Well at the heart of

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<v Speaker 1>federal elections, be they are in Australia, the UK, New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 1>or of course the United States, where this question became

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<v Speaker 1>crystallized all those years ago by Ronald Reagan in a

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<v Speaker 1>presidential debate, is are you better off this election than

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<v Speaker 1>you were at the last election? Pol drops today from Redbridge,

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<v Speaker 1>asking the question of our Australians better off than they

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<v Speaker 1>were two and a half years ago, fifty seven percent

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<v Speaker 1>of people say no. The darker the red the stronger

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<v Speaker 1>the feeling. But you can see that fifty seven percent

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<v Speaker 1>of people say no, just thirty one percent, which is

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<v Speaker 1>about the labor primary, say they're better off than they

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<v Speaker 1>were since this government came to power. Have a look

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<v Speaker 1>at it. When it comes to the amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>that people earn. If you earn a thousand dollars or less,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three percent of people say no. Two way, you're

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<v Speaker 1>better off since this bloke became Prime minister. People were

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<v Speaker 1>in between one and two thousand dollars a week, again,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three percent no. People earning between two and three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a week fifty seven percent no. The only

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<v Speaker 1>people who seemingly support are those who are at the

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<v Speaker 1>absolute top end of the market, and of course they're

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who didn't get a taxcut. But anyway, Also,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to slice this a different way, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just go through the old demographics of age, where you

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<v Speaker 1>can see that eighteen to sixty five plus all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>more people believe they are worse off than they were

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<v Speaker 1>when this government to power. The same for men and

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<v Speaker 1>the same for women, despite the fact that apparently the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party has a problem with women. What about where

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<v Speaker 1>people live. It doesn't matter if you live in the cities,

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<v Speaker 1>in the suburbs, in a regional area or a rural area.

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<v Speaker 1>The extreme majority of people believe they are not better

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<v Speaker 1>off than they were since this government came to power.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the building blocks of a shocker on an

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<v Speaker 1>election night, one that the press gallery will say doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>But they said that about Harris and the Democrats. But

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the smart heads in the Labour Party, so don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>None that applies to us is the government focused on

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<v Speaker 1>the right priorities. No one supports that proposition. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>your age, your gender, or all voters believe that the

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<v Speaker 1>government is not focused on the right priorities. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>just thirty percent of all voters say that the government

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<v Speaker 1>is focused on the right priorities. Thirty one percent of

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to thirty four year olds, twenty nine and twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>between thirty five and sixty four, thirty percent of people

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<v Speaker 1>over the age of sixty five. But of course everything

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter again to the next federal election because Uga Booger,

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<v Speaker 1>black and white music, cut cut, cut, cut cut, Spooky, Spooky,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton's coming.

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<v Speaker 9>Peedy Dutt, Peter Dutte, Peda Dutton And they've got the

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<v Speaker 9>dirt unit ready to find all of the information that

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<v Speaker 9>everyone who's tried to find stuff on Dutton internally inside

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<v Speaker 9>the Liberal Party are outside for years, has never been

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<v Speaker 9>able to turn it over.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, no, no, the Prime Minister's dirt Unit's going to

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<v Speaker 1>find it. Well, are you sitting down, because according to

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<v Speaker 1>this poll, when people were asked is Dutton ready for government?

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<v Speaker 1>More people said yes than no, More men say yes

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<v Speaker 1>than women who say no, but almost fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>on women. People who's qualification was leaving BEFO year twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>they believe that Dutton would be there by seventeen points.

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<v Speaker 1>People who got to year twelve either at school or

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<v Speaker 1>after school, getting that equip getting that qualification. He's up

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<v Speaker 1>by three The only people who don't like any university

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<v Speaker 1>degree people, and even then at single digits. So good

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<v Speaker 1>luck Albo with your dirt unit. Good luck pouring sugar

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<v Speaker 1>into the year at the press gallery who love the

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<v Speaker 1>whole new arrangements they currently have, how many people. How

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<v Speaker 1>many ways can you cut that we're worse off than

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<v Speaker 1>we were when this bloke became the Prime minister. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy's priorities are wrong and people are now seeing not

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<v Speaker 1>just an opposition but an alternative government. Those three strikes

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<v Speaker 1>mean generally you're out. As we know, bloody hot in

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the country, particular focus in and around Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>over the past couple of days. Apparently it'll get better

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<v Speaker 1>bit of rain into the future here. But yet another

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<v Speaker 1>day where we are a quarter of the way into

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<v Speaker 1>the two twenty first century and the leader of the

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<v Speaker 1>most populous state in the country is talking to us

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<v Speaker 1>as if we're in the middle of a war. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a listen to this.

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<v Speaker 5>The government's asking individual households and businesses to, wherever possible,

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<v Speaker 5>wherever it's safe, consider not using energy intensive appliances between

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<v Speaker 5>the hours of three pm and eight pm this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason for that is that solar production in the

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<v Speaker 5>energy market starts to come off from three pm at

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<v Speaker 5>exactly the same time as people return home from work.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you can not run your pool filter, not

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<v Speaker 5>run your dishwasher, not run your washing machine this afternoon

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<v Speaker 5>between three and eight you'll help the grid.

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<v Speaker 1>My answer is bugger all that you get charged either way.

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<v Speaker 1>The Energy Minister similarly speaking to you as if we're

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the blitz and we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>conserve energy. Of course it is not wartime. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a order the way into the twenty first century, and

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<v Speaker 1>governments are both persuasions in every state have made a bet,

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<v Speaker 1>and one that results in them having to say this

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<v Speaker 1>to us. On a hot dark they.

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<v Speaker 10>Can keep their blinds closed and their rooms cooler. As

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<v Speaker 10>I've said, Sola's going gangbusters at the moment. If you've

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<v Speaker 10>got air conditioning, go for it as hard as possible

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<v Speaker 10>and cool down the house before you get home tonight

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<v Speaker 10>if you can. But if you can turn it up

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<v Speaker 10>a couple of degrees, that makes a big difference in

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<v Speaker 10>terms of demand. If you're not in a room, you

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<v Speaker 10>don't need to have the light on, and if you

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<v Speaker 10>can do the non essential electricity use wait until they

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<v Speaker 10>use the dishwasher until after eight tonight. If you can

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<v Speaker 10>hold on too that washing, to do it overnight or

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<v Speaker 10>do it in the morning. That's what we're asking people

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<v Speaker 10>to do. Every little bit helps.

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<v Speaker 1>What rubbish, what patronizing garbage. These people make the decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that put us into a situation where the electricity grid

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<v Speaker 1>is so vulnerable that even before summer has started, when

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<v Speaker 1>it's mid to high thirties, we're not forty six degrees okay,

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<v Speaker 1>mid to high third onh No, No, it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to work out. Quick, pull this plug out, turn that one. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you get charged for accessing the power grid regardless. So

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>you stay comfortable, you stay safe, and you stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty first century. They can turn off all of

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<v Speaker 1>the lights of Parliament House if they want to. They

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<v Speaker 1>can get rid of every bit of communication inside the

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<v Speaker 1>government officers. For those of us who pay our taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>have bought our appliances and have our homes that we like, comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>you stay comfortable. I don't say this is an act

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<v Speaker 1>of sissicle disobedience or denialism. I just say, no, know,

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<v Speaker 1>their job is to provide the utilities, but they've made

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<v Speaker 1>a bet to change the type of provision of the

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<v Speaker 1>utility that powers all of those things. So bugger them,

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<v Speaker 1>not us. Questions are asked about this today in question

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<v Speaker 1>time where Chris Barwen, a minister who thinks that one

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<v Speaker 1>day he might be the Prime minister, because if I

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<v Speaker 1>can get the New so Wales right behind me and

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<v Speaker 1>not Tony Burke that I'm a chance in a party room.

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<v Speaker 1>This plug actually thinks he's going to run the country

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<v Speaker 1>one day. Here's the question. He was asked about the

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>very situation playing out today in the moment populous state.

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<v Speaker 11>The Australian Energy market operator is right now scrambling to

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<v Speaker 11>avoid blackouts by cutting deals with factories to temporarily shut down,

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<v Speaker 11>and the New South Wales premiere is urging residents I quote,

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<v Speaker 11>not to run your dishwasher, not to run your washing

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<v Speaker 11>machine this afternoon, Prime Minister, is this what Labour's planned for?

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<v Speaker 1>I quote?

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<v Speaker 11>A renewable energy superpower really will look.

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<v Speaker 1>Like great point?

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<v Speaker 12>You can tell us about yah that the cable that's

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<v Speaker 12>going to go to Singapore and this incredible thing in

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 12>twenty years in this way today today you've got premiers

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<v Speaker 12>talking to people like sculpture.

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<v Speaker 1>This is beyond frustrating. I took an oath months ago

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<v Speaker 1>not to swear as much as I used to, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine all the words that are screaming my

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<v Speaker 1>way right now. He was part of the government response

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<v Speaker 1>to that obvious question, which is an admission of their failure.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, as the House is aware, New South Wales is

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<v Speaker 3>undergoing a lengthy and severe heat wave, which is of

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<v Speaker 3>course increasing demand on the energy system. When there's a

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.479
<v Speaker 3>heat wave, energy demand goes up. In addition, mister speaker,

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<v Speaker 3>in New South Wales, check up, there are five units

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<v Speaker 3>of coal and gas production that are not operating.

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<v Speaker 8>Two of them.

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 3>The two of them the opposition, were unexpected breakdowns in

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 3>coal fire power.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, surprise, surprise, because you run down the main source

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 1>of power because you have set up an entire incentive

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>structure to invest in anything but it. Before you are

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>able to commit to that new technology, you need the

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>old technology. But guess what, it hasn't been maintained, it

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been modernized. So we end up where we are

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>right now. Well done, Chris Bowen. Oh, one day he

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>could be the Prime minister please in his dreams. Of course.

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>The other one who thinks that he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the prime minister is none other than old made snake

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<v Speaker 1>Charmer Jim Charmers and today cocker Hoop. Because the inflation

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>numbers are moving in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 13>To breaking news now and the latest inflation figures have just.

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<v Speaker 11>Dropped monthly inflation flatlining at two point one percent compared

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<v Speaker 11>with the six it had in front of it when

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 11>we took office thanks to plunging petrol prices and government

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 11>energy rebates.

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<v Speaker 14>So it remains unchanged and that's defying forecast that it

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 14>would increase to two point three percent and to cut

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.239
<v Speaker 14>is exactly what the Albanezi government is hoping for to

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<v Speaker 14>try and turn its fortunes around.

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<v Speaker 9>If we inherited inflation from the previous government with the

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<v Speaker 9>six in front of it, it's now got a two

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:40.239
<v Speaker 9>in front of it.

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<v Speaker 1>These people, these people remember inflation with the two in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the three or four or five or six.

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>It's all added on top of the previous month, of

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the previous quarter. Right as it explained, right, the prices

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>keep going up, up, up, up up, But for them

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>they play the game that it's going down, down down.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>It ain't. And by the way, when the three hundred

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>dollars power bill for every mansion and one bedroom unit

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>in regional Australia is taken off next year after the election,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not going to be a two hundred and seventy

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>five dollars reduction and energy prices which was their promise. Oh,

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>that's right, it's going back up again by almost half.

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>So this inflation number that we get is artificial because

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of firstly the petrol issues and secondly the issues when

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it comes to electricity and the government are effectively paying

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>off the power companies. The actual service itself is not cheaper,

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's appearing cheaper because you're paying off the power

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>company before they make a bill. As for everything that

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>is higher than two, that has two in front of

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>it when it comes to inflation, just last month alone,

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>tobacco up twelve points, fruit and veggies eight and a

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>half points, going on holiday, renting a property, paying for

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>your education, paying the insurance on your car, having a drink,

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>having a drink that doesn't have alcohol in it, having

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:16.479
<v Speaker 1>gas to cook on a stove, doing something like God forbid,

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>taking your kids to go and see a movie. All

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>of it up, all of it with not a two

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>in front of it. But of course, surprise, surprise, nothing

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to see here. It's all going in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Whistle Dixie, I repeat. The majority of Australians, when asked,

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>say the joint is headed in the wrong direction. They

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>don't have the priorities of normal people and they're worse

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>off than they were when you first started becoming the government.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>So spin, spin, spin, win over the press gallery, send

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<v Speaker 1>the wsapps, have the drinks at the lodge. For those

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>of us in the real world, you are the problem,

0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>not the solution. Today we got some information that the

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>police officer whom fired at taser at that ninety three

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>year old woman in a nursing home on the south

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>coast of New South Wales has been found guilty and

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>guilty of manslaughter. Out on bail and sentencing will happen

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>a little later in the week, I believe, or maybe

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>next week. There is to be an inquest into lithium

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>ion batteries and the fires that they produce. In fact,

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>there have been two hundred and seventy five lithium ion

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>battery fires in New South Wales alone, and some of

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>these have resulted in people's debts, which is why a

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>coronial inquest is going to get involved. Put simply, if

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you have one of these rechargeable batteries and I like you,

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and one of these people who's got a battery for

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>seventeen different things, and you know, a leaf blower and

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>maha and all of that business, charge them, but turn

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>them off when you have charged them. Okay, don't leave

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>things on charge because when they overhead, that's when they explode.

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>That's how the fires take place. And let's talk about

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>for one last time the delusional Democrats, because one hell

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>of a day took place today. You say, it's just

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>about to be Thanksgiving in the United States, so we're

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>as close to a public holiday as we could possibly get.

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>It's what twenty two days since the American election, and

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>now finally they're willing to tell us what went wrong.

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Now sure, they're not willing to answer any questions about this. No,

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris just jumped onto a zoom video with her

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>supporters to say nothing. And she's still serving up the

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>word salads. Jeez, I'm surprised this lady lost.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 15>All that work that you did that was about engaging

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 15>with other people, engaging with perfect strangers and in their

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 15>face seeing a neighbor. That has lasting effect. It reminds

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:46.719
<v Speaker 15>people that there are leaders like you who care and

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 15>will bring us together. You lost, and you know, sometimes

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 15>in the darkest moments, people lose.

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Faith in that every swing state.

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<v Speaker 15>Are there people out there that feel that way? And

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 15>you reminded people that yes, there are and there are

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 15>a lot of us, please, and that strength cannot be

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 15>taken from us. That is our strength. It cannot be

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 15>taken from us.

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow, she started off trying to be a barber in

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a pantsuit, and she's like a bad opera by the

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>end of it. Oh, she's got more.

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 15>And I know this is an uncertain time. I'm clear

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 15>out about that. I know you're clear out about it.

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 15>And it feels heavy, and I just have to remind you,

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 15>don't you ever let anybody take your power from you.

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 15>You have the same power that you did before November

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 15>Fifth's you have the same purpose.

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>You know people who write as motivational messages on you,

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and you.

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 15>Have the same ability to engage and inspire fans to

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 15>take your power from you.

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay. As for her staffers, I also did a little

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>interview looking back at what they had to do, including

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>how's this this used to be Biden's campaign manager and

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>then her campaign manager. Imagine trusting your political future to

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>this idiot.

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.800
<v Speaker 16>Of course, we lost, so I'm not here to say

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 16>that that didn't happen. We would much rather not have

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 16>that happen. But where she campaigned we did way better

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 16>than the rest of the country, and Donald Trump did worse.

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>You only campaigned in the swing states and you lost

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>every one of them. Oh but apparently, according to this

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 1>genius who was Obama's genius, they were never going to

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>win the swing states.

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<v Speaker 17>It's always worth reminding people it's really hard for Democrats

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 17>to win battle ground states. Let's look at Pennsylvania. Twenty

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 17>five percent of the electorate is liberal, roughly thirty four

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 17>percent conservative. By the way, in most battleground states that

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 17>conservative numbers over forty. So in every battleground state there's

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 17>more conservative than ones.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? The swing states are not

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>just full of Republicans. In fact, let me show you

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>this political genius. People in the seven swing states, five

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of them have democratic governors. All of them have democratic senators,

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>meaning Democrats can win from one side of the state

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to the other. Your candidate didn't. And what a surprise.

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 1>The lady who talks like a future play school presenter

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>was given a fairy give kick in the backside from

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the voters of the United States. I'm sorry to put

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you through seeing her. While Trump copped the bullet, America

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>dodged one go away Cammaala Morenes sing all right, big

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>one for many nights. So let's get straight to our panel,

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 1>none other than Stephen Conroy. He's just here to help

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and the carry out champ as always. Broman Bishop Bromin

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>caught on the way through the twenty first century in

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 1>the Premier of New South Wales. The energy minister in

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>New South Wales is telling people to not do their

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>dishes because the network might fall over. Well what do

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you expect.

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 7>I mean, people like me have been a certainly a

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 7>matter of time, and this is what's going to happen,

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 7>and it is happening, and it'll go on happening. And

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 7>this is what happens in third world countries. This is

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 7>what happens when governments can't supply enough electricity for the

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 7>needs of the nation. Now we're supposed to be first

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 7>world country. But this whole rubbish all started with the

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 7>North South debate when they said back in what ninety

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 7>two or something, that it was the obligation of the North,

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.399
<v Speaker 7>who benefited from the exploitation of the South, to.

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Give them money.

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 7>And isn't that exactly what China said?

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is first world third world stuff. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 7>One point three trillion annually. Just pay over the money.

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 7>It's what it's always been about, and we've had stupid

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 7>people who've fallen for it. And the Labor Party with

0:36:56.400 --> 0:37:00.479
<v Speaker 7>mister Bowen and Albanezy. If he believes in anything for anything,

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't know, But mister Bowen thinks that he's I

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 7>don't know, enlightened and we're all dumb. But what we're

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 7>getting is what was so inevitable, Steve.

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I was told by somebody today, oh look this is

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, unless it's an actual blackout, it's not a problem.

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's going to think about it. Well, normal people in

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>my life that are not as politically engaged as you

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and I today were acting like it was sort of

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>COVID times and saying we can't have the air conditioner

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>on why because the premier said so this connects with

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>normal people and it is a failure of service. At

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>what point do the people that have demanded change recognize

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>there's only so much of it you can have without

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>problems like this.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think the New South Wales the state's problems

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 8>go back a little bit further than Chris Minn.

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't worry. I gave it last night and gave

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 1>it to last night.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 8>Taken decisions taken by the Perrete government, and you can't leave,

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 8>you know, Matt keeneor by himself. That was a government,

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 8>a cabinets. They took these decisions. They closed down power stations,

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 8>they started phasing the amount. Now and the good news,

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 8>the good news, the good news is that one of

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 8>the first things Mens did, we said we might have

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 8>to extend the life of the power station was being

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 8>closed out. Okay, very clear. The Men's government, the Men's

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 8>government has been doing the right thing. It's been dealt

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.919
<v Speaker 8>a hand, you know, it's the cards in its hand

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 8>are what it has to do. We've all been committed.

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 8>Peter Dutton's still saying net zero by twenty fifty. Okay,

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 8>he hasn't pulled out of announces pulling out of the

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 8>Climate treaty like Donald Trump has. So let's stop try

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 8>and pretend that the Liberal Party have not been front

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 8>and center in helping create What you're claiming is this

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 8>catastically the Men's government, nor your friend, your friend Matt

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 8>k your friend Mat Okay, put us on a pa

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:09.439
<v Speaker 8>put us.

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 1>That's got us a trick, that's my trick. But your mate,

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>You're well played. All right. Now, this this this this

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>red Bridge pole that came out today showing I'm looking

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>forward to this. I'm looking forward to this, Steve, and

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you're going to come first off on this one right

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>of all of the numbers that I presented, which is

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:29.919
<v Speaker 1>the one that as a hardcore labor man you would

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>be most concerned about about either a perception or a

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 1>reality that you have to turn around between now and

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>whenever that election is.

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 8>I think the pole goes to a coor issue that

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<v Speaker 8>I think Donald Trump highlighted successfully, which is are you

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<v Speaker 8>better off you know, in the last four years? And

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<v Speaker 8>the answer clearly in the US was no. And I

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<v Speaker 8>think all of the issues that Redbridge look at today

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<v Speaker 8>drive that core perception and that remains the challenge for

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<v Speaker 8>the Albanese government to try and make sure people understand

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<v Speaker 8>not get distracted by Peter Dutton's clever, very clever political

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<v Speaker 8>tactes of moving around from here talking about immigration, blocking

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<v Speaker 8>this bill, creating a crisis, keeping the government off balance.

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<v Speaker 8>I think the government needs to be focused, and I

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<v Speaker 8>said clever political opposition tactics.

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<v Speaker 1>People continue to say you're very focused to them, you're

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<v Speaker 1>very focused. Are you in for some sort of special

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<v Speaker 1>of water they host to get dinner in your honor?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not aware of, not that I'm aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the heat to help.

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<v Speaker 8>They might be, they might they might be hosting it,

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<v Speaker 8>but they haven't invited me to it. As all I

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<v Speaker 8>would say so, But I think I think that those

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<v Speaker 8>core issues identified by red Bridge a genuine concern for

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<v Speaker 8>the Albany's government going forward over the next four to

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<v Speaker 8>six months, and that needs to be the absolute focus

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<v Speaker 8>that the on. I think Labor's done a good job

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<v Speaker 8>in taking the debate around away from some of those

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<v Speaker 8>cost of living issues with a couple of important positions

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<v Speaker 8>around getting those visa changes, and you've seen the Stephen

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<v Speaker 8>built about over under sixteens.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Take Charge says the economy is doing well

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<v Speaker 7>and people are struggling to buy their groceries. They are insulted,

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<v Speaker 7>they're angry, and they say this government has no idea.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why a majority of people say the country is

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<v Speaker 7>going in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, we're agreeing on this is a.

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<v Speaker 7>Government that squandered so much money and so much time

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<v Speaker 7>on the voice issue. It had no agenda, it wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to implement, except mister Burke, who wanted to give everything

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<v Speaker 7>to the unions so that when the next stout comes up,

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<v Speaker 7>he gets the union vote correct so he can become leader.

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<v Speaker 7>Other than that, nothing have they done nothing? And they

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<v Speaker 7>presided over a drop in the standard of living?

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<v Speaker 8>Two surpluses? Two surpluses? Can we get the money all

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<v Speaker 8>Australian tax cuts all Australia and energy reby thousand care

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<v Speaker 8>ga results. They've done a percent.

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<v Speaker 7>They've done done nothing and the surplaces are funrowing because.

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<v Speaker 8>You need to get a new playblk. Okay, it's the

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<v Speaker 8>same bromin, same sentence every week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but hang on, hang on, hand hand. Here's where

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<v Speaker 1>I think Bromen is on some very solid ground. I

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<v Speaker 1>just was doing some rough mats, and I did mats

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<v Speaker 1>in space at school, So double check my numbers here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the undecideds on this question of are you better off

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<v Speaker 1>than you were two and a bit years ago? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fifteen percent of people aged eighteen to thirty four,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ten percent of people aged thirty five to forty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fifty percent. So it's thirteen percent of fifty to

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four, and it's ten percent of sixty five and over.

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<v Speaker 1>What that means is that if all of the undecideds

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<v Speaker 1>moved to I am better off than I was two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half years ago, Labor would be losing by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two points with people between thirty nine and forty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six points fifty to sixty four, and thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>points by people sixty five and over. If and we

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<v Speaker 1>all know it basically goes fifty to fifty. If one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of undecideds go your way and you're steal

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<v Speaker 1>that far down, that's the beginnings of a massive election loss.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes it is. And I've said all along that Peter

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<v Speaker 7>Dutton is a man who can win this election. And

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<v Speaker 7>when people look at him, they say, yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 7>rely on that bloke. They look at Alberanisi and they say,

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<v Speaker 7>what is he stand for? Is just Albo the trot

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<v Speaker 7>who likes fighting tories.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing like message discipline. It's okay to say the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing every week. It's called message discipline and it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up proving out to be correct. All right, last one

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<v Speaker 1>here I showed before the staffers, and then the CA

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<v Speaker 1>ed it in Kamala Harris. Now I get it that

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason. You know, there's some sort of magical

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<v Speaker 1>reason that they're not going to throw her under the

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 1>bus because they think she might still be powerful by

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<v Speaker 1>this time next year. It ain't going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, Stephen, When you lose, you have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe our plan was wrong, maybe our tactics were wrong.

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:18.880
<v Speaker 1>But to turn around and say, well, swing stots are

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to win when in all of them they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a senator, or in most of them they've got

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<v Speaker 1>a governor. They're off in La la land. These are

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<v Speaker 1>the people running the joint. They've got no idea what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 8>Look, I get that Kamala has to give some pastoral

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<v Speaker 8>care to our core Democrat voters. But the best thing

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 8>she can do is just say she's not running in

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<v Speaker 8>four years time. I get those staffers, they've all got

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<v Speaker 8>to find jobs. They've all got to be seen to

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<v Speaker 8>be loyal along the way and not wanting to blame themselves.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, look in the mirror, blame Kamala. Look at

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<v Speaker 8>the posters. They need to understand Kamala needs to bow

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 8>out now she there is not a viable candidate going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm in trouble. The shortest version possible to the question.

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<v Speaker 7>Bottom line is all parties that lose try and go

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<v Speaker 7>through irrationalities. It wasn't as bad as we think it is,

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<v Speaker 7>and really there is hope. But this was a thrashing

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<v Speaker 7>and I agree with Steve and she's got to get

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<v Speaker 7>out of the race.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, guys, do appreciate it. Look forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 1>you all again next week. A very special story for

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<v Speaker 1>you before we're done here on Paul Murray Live, eleven

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<v Speaker 1>minutes away from the late Debate. You always send me

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<v Speaker 1>an email, Paul, Let's go Newes dot com. Three. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the Shine Awards because they celebrate women in regional

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<v Speaker 1>Australia and Cadie Page, together with Penny Fowler, the great

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>people of Harvey Norman put together this award to honor

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<v Speaker 1>exceptional women who hold communities together. And I'm very pleased

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<v Speaker 1>to say that Danny Mason Kinder is the overall winner

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<v Speaker 1>of this year's Shine Awards and she joins us now.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations mate, I think we both would agree that we

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<v Speaker 1>would hope that there wasn't the reason to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>It all comes out of family tragedy. But congratulations on

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<v Speaker 1>turning what was the horrific loss of a daughter into

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<v Speaker 1>something that resulted in you being recognized today. Congratulations, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much, Paul.

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<v Speaker 13>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking here about that Be kind of Foundation. Give

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<v Speaker 1>us an idea about what it does today. It's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a long journey getting it to where it is today.

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<v Speaker 1>But what does the Bee kind of Foundation do?

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<v Speaker 13>So the Big kind of Foundation empowers and inspires children

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<v Speaker 13>to really just become kind of more empathetic and more compassionate.

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<v Speaker 13>And what we do is we put it's all about

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 13>prevention and early interventions. So instead of waiting for mental

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 13>health issues or bullying or know anything to arise, we

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<v Speaker 13>try and get in early, teach the children a kindness,

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<v Speaker 13>compassion and really stop stop these kind of behaviors before

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<v Speaker 13>they start.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about your beautiful girl, Billy.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't know we've got long enough, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>There's never long enough. You know. In the blurbs that

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<v Speaker 1>talks about her smile and spirit, she'd be intensely proud

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<v Speaker 1>of what you've built in her name. But as a mum,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it mean that you are able to take

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<v Speaker 1>the love that you give her and try to give

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<v Speaker 1>it to other kids as well?

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<v Speaker 13>Billy was remarkable And you know I didn't obviously, like

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.839
<v Speaker 13>you said, I wish I wasn't here, but I am.

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<v Speaker 13>And you know I didn't set out to do this.

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<v Speaker 13>The Big kind of Foundation has really organically grown and

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:42.799
<v Speaker 13>it snaked its way to become what it's come. And

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:46.280
<v Speaker 13>children relate to Billy. There was just something about Billy

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<v Speaker 13>and you know, as a twelve year old child, if

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 13>they see her and if Billy's making a difference, it

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 13>means that so can they. And that's what would be

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<v Speaker 13>kind as trying to do, is give children a voice,

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 13>give them confidence, and you know, really instill in them

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<v Speaker 13>that we can all make a difference. Everyone can make

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<v Speaker 13>a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Just looking at a photo of and now what a

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 1>beautiful girl, and you're a wonderful mum. Congratulations to you,

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to everyone involved in it. The website is b Kindofoundation

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. Congratulations on the Shine Award, but congratulations as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how tough it is to find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to put one foot in front of the other, and

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you do it. You do it every day and strength

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<v Speaker 1>and love from everyone who's watching us right now.

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<v Speaker 13>Mate, Yeah, thank you so much, Paul, Thank you for

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 13>having me on and Thank you to Harvey Norman and

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 13>the Weekly Times and those incredible women, all those women

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 13>you know. I feel very humble to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done, Danny, Thank you all of us big Oaks,

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<v Speaker 1>from all of us who have just met you, but

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>look forward to celebrating what your work that you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You can donate to the Be kind Of Foundation. You

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<v Speaker 1>go to their website which is be kind Of Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. See tomorrow