WEBVTT - Danica De Giorgio | 17 October

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Skyn's Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>This is to Nika de Georgio, Hello and welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the program coming up tonight. An innocent woman ambushed and

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<v Speaker 2>stabbed in broad daylight in the middle of Melbourne's CBD,

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<v Speaker 2>Yet Victorian Premier Justin to Alan insists the city is safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Who does she think she's kidding? Two years on from

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<v Speaker 2>the Voice referendum and labor governments across the country are

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<v Speaker 2>still trying to divide us by the color of our skin.

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<v Speaker 2>The Liberal Senator Justinta nampajin for price will join me shortly,

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<v Speaker 2>and military chiefs have begun high level talks about potential

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<v Speaker 2>Australian involvement in guars of peacekeeping operations. But first tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>three days ago, Victorian Premier Justin to Allan declared Melbourne's

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<v Speaker 2>CBD safe.

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<v Speaker 3>The CBD of Melbourne is safe, and I wish to

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<v Speaker 3>reiterate that the Melbourne CBD is safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Justin to Alan should clip that up and make

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<v Speaker 2>it part of her campaign material because it's such a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful selling point for the city, isn't it. But the

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<v Speaker 2>only people it serves to benefit are criminals. The very

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<v Speaker 2>words the CBD is safe is a criminal's paradise in

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<v Speaker 2>a city where crime is out of control. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the premier's version of safe looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>because have a look at the video I'm about to

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<v Speaker 2>show you and ask yourself, does this look safe to you?

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<v Speaker 2>The confronting vision you're about to see shows an innocent

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<v Speaker 2>woman being ambushed and stabbed in broad daylight in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the CBD.

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<v Speaker 4>Stalking her target from behind, the attacker pulled a long

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<v Speaker 4>knife from her pocket, then plunged it into a random

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<v Speaker 4>victim's chest. Thirty six year old Wine Lay left stunned

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<v Speaker 4>and bleeding on Little Burke Street. Her sister says it

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<v Speaker 4>was unprovoked.

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<v Speaker 5>Suddenly phil someone touch her len very hurting.

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<v Speaker 4>Miss Leigh had been walking to work as a sushi

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<v Speaker 4>chef at seven thirty five am, unaware she was being followed.

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<v Speaker 2>Horrific thirty six year old Wan Lee was stabbed in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the CBD on her way to work

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<v Speaker 2>at seven thirty five in the morning on October two.

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<v Speaker 2>She was left with a punctured lung and spent three

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<v Speaker 2>days in hospital. In fact, the knife just missed piercing

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<v Speaker 2>her heart, and yesterday she moved out of her apartment

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<v Speaker 2>as she is too scared to live there. But hang

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<v Speaker 2>on a minute, what did you center Allan tell us.

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<v Speaker 3>Again the CBD of Melbourne is safe, and I wish

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<v Speaker 3>to reiterate that the Melbourne CBD is safe.

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<v Speaker 2>No, nothing at all, nothing to see here, And here

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<v Speaker 2>is what we know about the alleged defender.

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<v Speaker 4>CCTV captured the attacker running off down Spencer Street with

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<v Speaker 4>her blade still out. Police say she was on bail

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<v Speaker 4>for other offenses at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was out on This is what Jacinta Allen's

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<v Speaker 2>so called toughest bail laws in the country looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>And putting this case aside for the moment, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a government so captured by ideology it avoids locking people

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<v Speaker 2>up rather bailing them, and the public is paying the price.

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<v Speaker 2>Police are clearly stretched to the max with youth crime

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<v Speaker 2>out of control and weekly protests and it's now just

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<v Speaker 2>an all in. It's another day in Melbourne, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Peppered with a daily stabbing or two, several carjackings and

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<v Speaker 2>home invasions. And of course these alleged tough bail laws

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<v Speaker 2>may as well be rendered useless. They only work if

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<v Speaker 2>the justice system obliges. These crims are laughing at us

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<v Speaker 2>in a city deemed safe.

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<v Speaker 3>The CBD of Melbourne is safe, and I wish to

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<v Speaker 3>reiterate that the Melbourne CBD is safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Look what makes this even more offensive is the

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<v Speaker 2>premier's response to the stabbing today.

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<v Speaker 6>This alleged to Bendel was on mail have your top

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<v Speaker 6>of oil laws Dale?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this act of shocking, brazen violence that we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>on Little Burke Street in Melbourne's CBD is just absolutely sickening.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sickening, and my thoughts and support go to the

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<v Speaker 3>victim and her wider family who are also supporting her

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<v Speaker 3>what is no doubt an incredibly difficult and traumatic time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thoughts and prayers again and offering up support that'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it for a young woman who's now been left

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<v Speaker 2>traumatized and is too scared to leave her own home

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<v Speaker 2>because in the CBD that the premier declared safe is

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<v Speaker 2>not actually safe. And this premier speaks as if it's

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<v Speaker 2>just another run of the mill incident, and that's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the issue to her. It's another incident for her, It's

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<v Speaker 2>another incident where she just offers up support for Melbournians.

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<v Speaker 2>It's another worrying day of out of control crime because

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<v Speaker 2>there is there's no support.

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<v Speaker 3>She then went on, I want to thank Victoria Police

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<v Speaker 3>for moving swiftly, for moving swiftly, for apprehending this individual.

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<v Speaker 3>This individual is now on remand in jail awaiting a

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<v Speaker 3>court date, and I thank Victoria Police for that swift

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<v Speaker 3>work in responding to this just sickening crime.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you police, Well done, bravo. And well that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>She moves on like nothing ever happened. Thanks police, you

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<v Speaker 2>did it again. You saved just into Allan's backside again.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's ask this again. Melbourne CBD must be safe?

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<v Speaker 7>Right, is Melbourne CBD sad?

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<v Speaker 3>So this was a brazen, shocking act. It was a shocking,

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<v Speaker 3>brazen act of violence that has no place on any

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<v Speaker 3>street in any town. And that is why I'm thanking

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<v Speaker 3>Victoria Police for their very very quick response and that

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<v Speaker 3>this individual is now in jail, on remand waiting for

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<v Speaker 3>their next court appearance.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me get this right. Three days ago it

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<v Speaker 2>was safe. Today Justina Allan couldn't even say because she's

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<v Speaker 2>got nothing to say. And you know what, let me

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<v Speaker 2>just give you a quick summary of everything she said today.

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<v Speaker 3>Shocking, brazen violence, absolutely sickening. It's sickening, raisen, shocking act.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a shocking, brazen act of violence. The shocking

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<v Speaker 3>act of violence. It was brazen, it was an extreme

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<v Speaker 3>active violence.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just sickening, terrible, shocking, sickening and act of violence.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that, we know that. But that was her

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<v Speaker 2>playbook today, her labor lines written out in advance, committed

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<v Speaker 2>to memory, to sell to the public, and we all

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<v Speaker 2>know it's now a sick joke. Justina Alan does not

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<v Speaker 2>have the willpower to get on top of this. Enough

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<v Speaker 2>is enough. Her disaster is playing out in front of

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<v Speaker 2>our very eyes. Last night there was a stabbing attack

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<v Speaker 2>in reservoir. A man has been left with life threatening injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>Three days ago, a man allegedly pointed a gun at

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<v Speaker 2>police as he ran from offices in Melbourne, CBD in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the day. He was on bail allegedly

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<v Speaker 2>for stealing a car. Day in, day out, it's one

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<v Speaker 2>machete attack after another. Kids are slashing each other in

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<v Speaker 2>violent machete brawls. Shopping centers have become the new fight clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids have been killed, warring youth gangs, home invasions, carjackings.

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<v Speaker 2>I could go on and on, because it never ends.

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria is in the middle of record breaking crime. In

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, in New South Wales there were twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven thousand burglaries, fourteen eight hundred and ninety nine stolen vehicles,

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<v Speaker 2>and just over twenty eight thousand fests from shops. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you compare that with Victoria forty eight thousand burglaries, almost

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine thousand stolen vehicles and just under thirty nine

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<v Speaker 2>thousand thefts from shops, and bear in mind the population

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<v Speaker 2>of New South Wales is twenty percent larger. John Roscom

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<v Speaker 2>writes in the Australian Financial Review Today that this crime

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<v Speaker 2>crisis was all Daniel Andrew's doing and it started during

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic. He says, young Victorians were locked in their

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<v Speaker 2>homes for months on end, without school, without work, and

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<v Speaker 2>without support. It should be no surprise that a small

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<v Speaker 2>minority of young people are treating Victorians with the same

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<v Speaker 2>sort of contempt that a few years ago Victorians treated them.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so easy to see this coming and Jacinta

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<v Speaker 2>Allen's magic carpetride solution is a machete amnesty bin and

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<v Speaker 2>if it wasn't so serious, you'd actually laugh at the

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<v Speaker 2>very prospect. And all I can put it down to

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<v Speaker 2>is this, This comes up Jacinta Allan's tough on crime approach.

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<v Speaker 3>The CBD of Melbourne is safe, and I wish to

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<v Speaker 3>reiterate that the Melbourne CBD is safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, her tough on crime approach is a marshmallow. She's

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<v Speaker 2>not up to this, she's not got the courage to

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<v Speaker 2>get on top of this, and its innocent civilians paying

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<v Speaker 2>the price daily. Well, what does it mean to be

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<v Speaker 2>Australian under labor? Now? When I think of what it

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<v Speaker 2>means to be an Aussie, I think of pride in

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<v Speaker 2>this country, pride in our flag. I think of the

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<v Speaker 2>values the ANZACs instilled, like madship, courage and bravery. But

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<v Speaker 2>that is all redundant under labor, which continues to make

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<v Speaker 2>a complete mockery of this country and a mockery of

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<v Speaker 2>everyday Aussies through the people it keeps bringing. In. Home

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<v Speaker 2>Affairs Minister Tony Burke has announced that as many as

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred Garzens could soon call Australia home.

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<v Speaker 8>The people who we have on our caseload, there's roughly

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<v Speaker 8>six to seven hundred of them, well, roughly six to

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<v Speaker 8>seven hundred on our caseload. Sometimes we had peaceful on

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<v Speaker 8>our caseload where we don't know if they're still alive,

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<v Speaker 8>but we've got roughly six to seven hundred on our caseload.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, this is an utter insult to every day Laura

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<v Speaker 2>abiding peaceful Aussies. Last year they let in under two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand gardens with little to no security checks. Tony Burke

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<v Speaker 2>even did a private meet and greet at Sydney Airport

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<v Speaker 2>with one family when Gardens touched down a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he spoke of the delight in welcoming them

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<v Speaker 2>in just yesterday.

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<v Speaker 8>That mother and daughter had spent eighteen months hiding in

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<v Speaker 8>a church in Gaza before I had the portfolio. Just

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<v Speaker 8>by chance, someone had handed me a phone and I'd

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<v Speaker 8>found myself having a video conversation with them while they

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<v Speaker 8>were hiding. I was really pleased to be a minister

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<v Speaker 8>in the sort of country where I could meet them

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<v Speaker 8>the airport and I could say you're welcome here, You're safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Garza's neighbors, including Egypt and Jordan, have refused to take

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<v Speaker 2>refugees despite the two year Israel Humas War, but Australia

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<v Speaker 2>under Labor has the welcome matte unfilled. And don't forget

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of Gazans support HUMAS and supported the October seven,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three attack on Israel. And what Tony Burke

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<v Speaker 2>is just so sure that those he's let in don't

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<v Speaker 2>support Humas. I mean, we already have a rampant anti

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<v Speaker 2>Semitism problem in this country and the minister wants to

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<v Speaker 2>bring in more refugees, some of whom may be sympathetic

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<v Speaker 2>to Humas. Really not to mention Isis brides have been

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<v Speaker 2>welcomed in with open arms. We have a mass migration

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<v Speaker 2>problem as it is, what is this Australia and what

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<v Speaker 2>does it mean to be Australian under labor anymore? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I think Australia is a soup bowl of dangerous ideology

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<v Speaker 2>which has been imported and throw that into a big

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<v Speaker 2>Australia policy which has seen some people come here whose

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<v Speaker 2>values are entirely incompatible with our own, and Labour calls

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<v Speaker 2>of multiculturalism and keeps the door open. And look, federal

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<v Speaker 2>labor is not immune. The Daily Telegraph revealed today that

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<v Speaker 2>tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars have been thrown at

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<v Speaker 2>a Sydney Islamic group with Hesbela ties and whose leader

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<v Speaker 2>publicly vowed the annihilation of Israel. That is, South Wales

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<v Speaker 2>government granted the Araham Benevolent Society thirty three thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in social cohesion and security payments. It comes eight months

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<v Speaker 2>after the society's mosque and Sydney held a commemoration ceremony

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<v Speaker 2>for three killed Hesbela fighters. And don't forget that Hesbela

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<v Speaker 2>is a listed terror group in Australia. When will our

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<v Speaker 2>interests as Australians be put first? Because labor is a

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<v Speaker 2>threat to our social cohesion And I've said this before

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll say it again. I do not think we

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<v Speaker 2>have control over the culture where trying to create anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>The horse has bolted and what a shame. Labor does

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<v Speaker 2>not know what it means to be Australian. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>straight to the Shadow Attorney General, Andrew Wallace. Now, good

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<v Speaker 2>to see you again, Andrew, thanks for joining me. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to start with this stabbing in broad daylight in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll show the clip once more and a warning it

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<v Speaker 2>is distressing. Now you were in the city this week

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<v Speaker 2>with Susan Lee talking about crime there jacent to. Allen

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<v Speaker 2>has again shot down calls for Jack's Law, which is

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<v Speaker 2>legislation in place in your home state of Queensland as

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<v Speaker 2>well in New South Wales. It allows police to use

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<v Speaker 2>handheld metal detectors. What message does this send to citizens

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<v Speaker 2>of her state?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Donica, thanks for having me on. I mean that

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<v Speaker 5>footage is just absolutely sickening. I'm sure that Australians across

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<v Speaker 5>the country are very upset just to see that. I

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<v Speaker 5>want to extend my best wishes to the young lady

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<v Speaker 5>and her family. It is utterly unacceptable where we have

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<v Speaker 5>a situation where Australians and visitors cannot simply walk down

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<v Speaker 5>a street in a capital city in broad daylight and

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<v Speaker 5>not be assaulted. It's just unfathomable that Melbourne has got

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<v Speaker 5>to this stage. The Melbourne crime rates have increased by

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<v Speaker 5>eighteen percent over the last twelve months. Eighteen percent just

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<v Speaker 5>in the last twelve months, Danika, there've been nine thousand

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<v Speaker 5>additional offenses against the person from compared to last year.

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<v Speaker 5>That's things like rape, assault, murder, the sort of violent

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<v Speaker 5>physical offenses. An additional nine thousand from the figures of

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<v Speaker 5>last year. It is utterly inconceivable that this is acceptable

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<v Speaker 5>to Australians. They're getting angry and what I'm hearing from

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<v Speaker 5>people on the street is that it is that the

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<v Speaker 5>crime is becoming the number one hot issue for Victorian's.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh look absolutely, and you know the Premier had the

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<v Speaker 2>goal to say that the CBD is safe. How much

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<v Speaker 2>more evidence do you need that there is clearly a

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<v Speaker 2>serious issue. You know, it's just unbelievable. Now I'll ask

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<v Speaker 2>you what do you make of the comments by Nationals

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<v Speaker 2>leader David little Proud saying that he would welcome any

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<v Speaker 2>Liberals defecting to the junior party. There were reports in

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<v Speaker 2>The Australian this week that a Liberal MP has maybe

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<v Speaker 2>tossed up the idea that if seven of his colleagues

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<v Speaker 2>defected to the Nationals, the balance of power within the

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<v Speaker 2>coalition would be flipped. The differences between Moderates and Conservatives

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<v Speaker 2>are reconcilable, particularly on energy andrew to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>there may be defectors to the Nats.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Denika, I'm now in the role of the Shadow

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<v Speaker 5>Attorney General and I can tell you now that I

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<v Speaker 5>am absolutely fixed on ensuring that we toughen our laws

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<v Speaker 5>in Australia. I want to back police and I want

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<v Speaker 5>to return safety and security to Australians. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 5>focused on everyday. Australians aren't concerned with who's talking to who,

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<v Speaker 5>who's saying what to who.

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<v Speaker 1>They just want us to get on with our jobs.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's exactly what I'll be doing, and I'll be

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<v Speaker 5>encouraging all my colleagues to do exactly what's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I do agree. I think that the parties spent enough

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<v Speaker 2>time talking about themselves, But I mean is they're a

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<v Speaker 2>genuine prospect of defectors.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, it hasn't worked well for others in the past,

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<v Speaker 5>so I don't think it will work well for others

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<v Speaker 5>and if they.

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<v Speaker 1>Tried it in the future.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm certainly not hearing any whispers along those lines.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm just concentrating on my job as a Shadow

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<v Speaker 5>Attorney General to make people more secure and more safe

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<v Speaker 5>in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, the big meetings coming up next week

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<v Speaker 2>in the US. Anthony Aarbeneasy to meet Donald Trump. We've

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<v Speaker 2>been waiting for this for a while. What sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a reception do you think he's going to receive?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we want this to be a success full outcome.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a team Australian moment. When the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 5>of Australia meets with a foreign leader, we want a

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<v Speaker 5>successful outcome for the Australian people. I know that Susan

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<v Speaker 5>Lee has written to the Prime Minister and set out

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<v Speaker 5>various markers as to what she'd like to see out

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<v Speaker 5>of the meeting, not the least of which is the

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<v Speaker 5>most important military alliance that we've ever been involved in,

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<v Speaker 5>and that is that military agreement, and that is AUCUS.

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<v Speaker 5>Aucust remains under somewhat of a cloud at the moment,

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<v Speaker 5>and we need to assure ensure that as a result

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<v Speaker 5>of this meeting with the President, that the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 5>walks away with a solid commitment from him that the

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<v Speaker 5>United States will continue with AUCUS.

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<v Speaker 1>We also need to see a commitment to reduction of

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<v Speaker 1>tariffs as well.

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<v Speaker 5>The trade agreement between Australia and the United States important

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<v Speaker 5>for Australians, and Australians just want to see their Prime

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<v Speaker 5>minister and they'd be happy to see him.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a meeting with the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 5>That's taken a long time, and just like every.

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<v Speaker 1>Other Australian, we want to see the Prime Minister succeed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's see what happens next week, but I look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to hearing the outcome. We're almost out of time,

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<v Speaker 2>but just very quickly want to ask you about a

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<v Speaker 2>very important story. Child sex offenders could get a mandatory

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<v Speaker 2>minimum of five years in jail. This is under a

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<v Speaker 2>bill being backed by the opposition. I'm surprised it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>not in place from the start, to be honest, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 2>but tell us more about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Last sitting week, Julian Lisa, who was the former Shadow

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<v Speaker 5>Attorney General, moved an urgent bill to be debated which

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<v Speaker 5>would increase penalties for people involved in Commonwealth child sex

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<v Speaker 5>offenses offenses. This arose out of a case in Victoria

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<v Speaker 5>where an individual had sexually assaulted his five year old

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<v Speaker 5>daughter on nineteen occasions, and to make matters worse, he

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<v Speaker 5>made seventy seven images digital images, both videos and still

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<v Speaker 5>shots and then transmitted.

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<v Speaker 1>Datas over the internet.

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<v Speaker 5>And for the physical offense and the Commonwealth offenses he

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<v Speaker 5>got two and a half years in prison, six months

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<v Speaker 5>of which were for the Commonwealth offenses. Now those Commonwealth

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<v Speaker 5>offenses alone carry a maximum term of fifteen years imprisonment.

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<v Speaker 1>So Julian and Lisa moved a bill that would see

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<v Speaker 1>those sort.

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<v Speaker 5>Of Commonwealth offenses have a mandatory minimum sentence of five

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<v Speaker 5>years for a first offense or six years for a

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<v Speaker 5>subsequent offense. Unfortunately, Labor didn't support that, debating that bill

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<v Speaker 5>and said, well, no, you can wait till Parliament resumes. Look,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really struggling with this. Two hundred and twenty six

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<v Speaker 5>children a day are reported to the ACE ye and shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to do better.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree. Look, I'm just shocked that this is

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<v Speaker 2>not something that's in place from the very beginning. It

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<v Speaker 2>should be a It's so basic, really, Andrew Wallace, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to leave it there. Nice to see as always,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much for joining me. Well. Look, a

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<v Speaker 2>company overseeing China's controversial Belt and Road initiative has been

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<v Speaker 2>engaged to work on Australia net zero projects. News Corp

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<v Speaker 2>is today reporting the developers of two battery farms have

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<v Speaker 2>outsourced work to the China Energy Engineering Corporation, which is

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<v Speaker 2>owned and under the direct supervision of the Chinese Communist Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Now one of the batteries has been handed priority status

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<v Speaker 2>by the Albanezi government Jody. Now for more on this

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<v Speaker 2>is Adam Morrison, the Energy program director at the Center

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<v Speaker 2>for Independent Studies. Aiden, we now know why Albo loves

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<v Speaker 2>spending so much time in China. The majority of our

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<v Speaker 2>solar panels already, they're made in China. Now we've got

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<v Speaker 2>these reports that battery farms are being overseen by the sea.

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<v Speaker 2>How worried should we be about where our taxpayer money

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<v Speaker 2>is going into these schemes.

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<v Speaker 9>Look, I think we have every right to ask some

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<v Speaker 9>questions here. It's up to Albert where he chooses to

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<v Speaker 9>take his holidays. I suppose if China's a nice destination,

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<v Speaker 9>all well and good. But these batteries are actually expected

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<v Speaker 9>to play a really crucial role in our energy system.

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<v Speaker 9>In particular, batteries and some advanced inverters that are still

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<v Speaker 9>being developed are supposed to help with a thing called

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<v Speaker 9>a black start capability, which means if there's a blackout,

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<v Speaker 9>how do you get the grid up and running. And

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<v Speaker 9>this is previously relatively simple when coal and gas plants

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<v Speaker 9>were able to use their huge inertia of their spinning machines.

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<v Speaker 9>But now under the wind and solar plan, we need

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<v Speaker 9>other systems and the batteries are going to be relied

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<v Speaker 9>on for that, and one of these Australian companies has

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<v Speaker 9>been particularly active in trying to engage in the processes

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<v Speaker 9>to set the standards for this black start restart capability.

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<v Speaker 9>And so I think when it comes to being able

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<v Speaker 9>to switch the lights back on in a critical emergency

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<v Speaker 9>where there's a blackout, this is very important for Australians

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<v Speaker 9>literally being able to turn the lights back on. And

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<v Speaker 9>so you'd think there would have to be some reasonable

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<v Speaker 9>scrutiny about the degree of trust that we have in

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<v Speaker 9>the companies that are providing what is truly critical infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you'd absolutely hope. So I just think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>really frightening to be honest. Now, Look, there's been another

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<v Speaker 2>blow to the renewable energy magic carpet ride. The two

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<v Speaker 2>gigawa Kent offshore wind project on Victoria's Gippsland Coast has

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<v Speaker 2>been dumped as global energy companies continue to quit our market.

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<v Speaker 2>Aiden how critical was this project in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>state's renewables transition.

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<v Speaker 9>Look, the Victorian government is the only one that has

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<v Speaker 9>actually put in a special government policy target for an

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<v Speaker 9>amount offshore wind and they expect to have nine gigawats

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<v Speaker 9>in place by twenty forty. There's no other state that

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<v Speaker 9>has actually had a state target mandating a certain amount

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<v Speaker 9>of offshore wind. So two gigawa's out of that nine

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<v Speaker 9>is a pretty significant chunk overall. But I'd also like

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<v Speaker 9>to point out that the original plan, the premise for

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<v Speaker 9>why Victoria one and to actually start an offshore wind

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<v Speaker 9>policy one of the original policy papers, and that said

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<v Speaker 9>that if they relied on onshore resources that require something

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<v Speaker 9>like seventy percent of Victorian agricultural land to be taken

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<v Speaker 9>up by wind and solar. So if they're not going

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<v Speaker 9>to put it offshore, that will increase the amount of

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<v Speaker 9>pressure that goes to onshore wind and solar. And as

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<v Speaker 9>you can see every day, the landowners in many of

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<v Speaker 9>these regions are extremely upset about the industrialization of the

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<v Speaker 9>landscape that's going on there, with all the towers required

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<v Speaker 9>for solar panels, batteries, and the transmission lines and turbines.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think it is a big blow, but inevitable

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<v Speaker 9>because offshore wind around the world is being canceled. The

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<v Speaker 9>economics simply do not stack up.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it doesn't, yet we're persisting here but you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's prime pristine land that has been cut up.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that you hear that from labor or the Greens

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, the environmentalists. You don't hear that as

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<v Speaker 2>they push forward with this renewables fantasy. And I want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you, what do you make of these reports

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<v Speaker 2>from the Gratin Institute that Australian household energy bills are

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<v Speaker 2>set to have by twenty fifty. The report claims it

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<v Speaker 2>leaves policy room labor to cut emissions in the electricity

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<v Speaker 2>sector without hurting households. I did laugh, aid, And when

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<v Speaker 2>I read this, the report says that these savings come

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<v Speaker 2>because most households in twenty fifty will have solar panels,

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<v Speaker 2>a battery in the shed, and an electric car in

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<v Speaker 2>the garage and all electric appliances in the home. How

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<v Speaker 2>could they be so sure?

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<v Speaker 9>Look, that's exactly right. So look to give Graton some credit.

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<v Speaker 9>They don't project that power prices will actually fall, all right,

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<v Speaker 9>so they suggest they'll remain flat, which I take issue

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<v Speaker 9>with for a whole bunch of other assumptions, but you've

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<v Speaker 9>nailed that particularly key assumption. It's one of these huge

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<v Speaker 9>what if hopeful assumptions that premise all these optimistic reports,

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<v Speaker 9>and that is that basically they've chosen to focus on

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<v Speaker 9>the total energy bill, including your car's petrol, and then say, well,

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 9>that might go down if you get electricity for your

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<v Speaker 9>car instead through an electric vehicle, and you charge that

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<v Speaker 9>from the sun at the right kind of time with

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<v Speaker 9>the grid that supports it, and you've got to be

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<v Speaker 9>home battery as well to back all that up. So

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<v Speaker 9>it really relies a whole string of assumptions that I

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<v Speaker 9>think year by year we just see how fanciful these

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 9>kinds of things are. There are other assumptions inherent in

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 9>that report as well that assume that green hydrogen will

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<v Speaker 9>still make up a significant part of Australia's energy transition,

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<v Speaker 9>which I think is another really poor assumption. So, but

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<v Speaker 9>the big one is is that their claim that household

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 9>bills will go down is really only possible to make

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<v Speaker 9>because your household expenditure on all these big capital systems,

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 9>which will cost you thousands per year to pay off

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 9>things like a new car or two, a new battery

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<v Speaker 9>or two because they need to be replaced every ten

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<v Speaker 9>or fifteen years. That will make your overall energy costs

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<v Speaker 9>a lot lot higher, and they've really been able to

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<v Speaker 9>sort of squirm their way into sort of focusing on

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<v Speaker 9>just a narrow part of your cost stack on bills

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<v Speaker 9>to make that claim. So quite disappointing in my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I completely agree, Aiden. We have to leave it there.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to see you. Thanks very much for joining me

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<v Speaker 2>on the show this evening. We're coming up after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>Military chiefs have begun high level talks about potential Australian

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<v Speaker 2>involvement in Gaza peacekeeping operations. That are more with my panel.

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<v Speaker 2>Next welcome back. Joining me is New South Wales Independent

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<v Speaker 2>MP Tanya Mahalik and former New South Wales Police bitister

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<v Speaker 2>David Elliott hid to both of you, thanks so much

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<v Speaker 2>for joining me. Now I want to start with this

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<v Speaker 2>story that military chiefs have begun high level talks about

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<v Speaker 2>potential Australian involvement in Gaza peacekeeping operations. Should Anthony Albernezi

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 2>call on the military to provide air, Navy, army or

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 2>tactical support for peace, of course, which was broken this

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 2>week by Donald Trump. Now, David, I know that you

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 2>were once a peacekeeper, a young army officer. Do you

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 2>think that we would indeed be called up for support.

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<v Speaker 2>And what would that look like?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I think we should. I think we should offer it.

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 10>I think we should be proactive. I mean, remember Australians

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.400
<v Speaker 10>have served in the Middle East to stop Islamic terrorism

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 10>since eighteen eighty five. We went over to the Sudan

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 10>in eighteen eighty five, and I think you know we've

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 10>since then, we continue to have a presence in the

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 10>Sinai Peninsula as observers.

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<v Speaker 11>So we're ready to do it.

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<v Speaker 10>What would it be, Well, it depends do they want specialists,

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 10>do they want an army medical team, do they want

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 10>intelligence support? Do they want, like David Hurley led into

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 10>Somalia in the mid nineteen nineties, a battalion, a full

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 10>infantry battalion. But I think at the moment that the

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 10>operational temper of the Astraian Defense Force lends itself to

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 10>being there.

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 11>I think we should do it.

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 10>I think we've been vocal enough about what we want

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 10>and you can't say that we want a separate state

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.120
<v Speaker 10>there without offering the type of security that that state

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 10>would require.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look fair enough, as you mentioned, I mean we've

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>had a long history of peacekeeping. Good move. If we're

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>asked Tanya.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, well, David suggesting paths we offer it. I'm not

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 12>sure whether we should offer, but certainly if we are

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.959
<v Speaker 12>asked by the US, I think we should agree to

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 12>participate in the end of the US and I think

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.159
<v Speaker 12>Donald Trump has said he doesn't want to actually be

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 12>on the ground himself or the US themselves. They want

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 12>the Our League and the neighboring countries to play.

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>A big role.

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 12>But ultimately the UK, France as well as Our League

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 12>will have to actually probably have a UN Security Council

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 12>resolution to assist them, if not some type of resolution

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 12>to legally assist. I think it would be very fitting

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 12>for Australia to assist. We have always been participated, as

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 12>David has said, in peace making and peacekeeping missions, and

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 12>we're well renowned for our terrific officers that we have

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.880
<v Speaker 12>and the skills that Australia can offer. Look, it requires

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 12>a global solution. This is you know, the world has

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 12>been a standstill for two years now. We need a

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 12>global solution and we're going to need everybody to play

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 12>their role, and I think Australia will have to play

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 12>their role. And I think you've already seen it seems

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 12>like the Australian government is getting ready for that, and

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 12>I hope that the Opposition will support it and there'll

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 12>be a full support, although imagine the Greens won't support this.

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, the Greens were never supported. I'm just glad that

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 2>we're now talking about peacekeeping missions and we're gone from

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>war and you know, finally we're actually seeing some progress.

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Well done, Donald Trump. Now, the Home Affairs Minister Tony

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Burke has announced that as many as seven hundred gardens

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>could soon call Australia Home. I spoke about this earlier

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>in the show that I think this is an utter

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 2>insult to everyday law abiding, peaceful assies. David last year,

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 2>of course, labor let him just under two thousand gardens

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>with little to no security checks. We've got isis brides.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>There's already a big Australia policy. What on earth is

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>the minister thinking here.

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 10>Well, that's right, all while he will tell the South

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 10>African whites that they're not welcome. And so, I mean,

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 10>I think this is very dangerous and it is unnecessary

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 10>because if we're going to send peacekeepers into the Middle East,

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 10>and this is another argument why Australia would send peacekeepers

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 10>into the Middle East is because we want to make

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 10>sure that there is a safe environment for the guards

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 10>for the Palestinian refugees to go home. And that's what

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 10>we did with the Bosnians, That's what we did after

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 10>the Balkans disputes in the nineteen nineties. And I think

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 10>it's only appropriate. I mean, as I don't understand, God

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 10>forbid the day occurs where there was trouble like that

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 10>in Australia and I didn't come home to help fix it.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 10>And so I think that these Palestinians need to work out.

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 10>They're given the opportunity to have a peaceful existence. The

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 10>international community is now going to provide them the military protection.

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 10>It is safe to go home. It is time for

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 10>you to return and build that nation that you wanted

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 10>so desperately.

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 2>So I completely agree here, you know, I just the

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 2>strategy that laboring. What are they doing seriously.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 12>Well, I think labor strategy is very simple. They want

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 12>to win the next election and they can see this

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 12>as a boat winner for themselves. Tony Burke's seat, there

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 12>are a lot of people there very sympathetic to Palestine

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 12>and to the cause there, so he is bringing in

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 12>people that he knows will suit the demographic of his

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 12>electorate and help Labor win and continue to hold some

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 12>of these Southwest and Western Sydney seats. So this is

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.719
<v Speaker 12>a political strategy on the part of Tony Burke. This

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 12>is not a refugee or humanity project for him. It's

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 12>not about caring about these people. This is about building

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 12>the numbers so that Labor can win the next election

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 12>and to peace the union movement and the labor branches

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 12>where he's got a lot of people there. I mean,

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 12>where did the grassroots campaign start for Gaza and for

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 12>Palestine in the In Australia it started in a later

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 12>party in the national estate crisis.

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>This is a problem and that's what this is about.

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>For Tony births very political.

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 12>It's just virtue signaling is completely ru.

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, remember the citizenship you know over I've got a

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>citizenship before the election, ouralthies, their selfies and now you know,

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the meet and greet at the airport never ends. I

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>want to ask you both about that horrific stabbing attack

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>in Melbourne's CBD. I'll show the clip again a warning.

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>It is distressing.

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 7>David.

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>The incident happened on October second, but we only found

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>out about this yesterday thanks to media reports. Just Into

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Allen basically said, oh, you know, this was part of

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the process and that's just the way it is. But

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.719
<v Speaker 2>an almost two week delay is that normal?

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 10>Well, that isn't part of the process. So that's sort

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 10>of a horrendous crime. The community needs to be made

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 10>aware of. It needs to be made aware of a

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 10>number of reasons, not the least being that they have

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 10>to be able to identified the fact that these activities

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 10>are occurring and people need to increase their sense of

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 10>safety personal safety. But I mean, I don't know what's

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 10>going on down in Melbourne, I really don't. It just

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 10>appears that the community is ignorant and blind to the

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 10>fact that they've got a government that seems to excuse

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 10>criminals more than excuses anybody else.

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Which is and that is a big that is a

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 2>really really big concern. But Tanya, I mean, is this

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>a cover up?

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 12>Absolutely similar at a mile away with this one, the

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 12>guy was on bail so and then the.

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Woman sorry, they've got bleeding bleeding heart.

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 12>Sort of, you know bail laws in Victoria, and I

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 12>think that.

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>They are covering up.

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 12>And you've got Brad Batton now has said, Look, they

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 12>wanted to do Jack's law, the same lord that's in Queensland.

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 2>But I think the Opposition need.

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 12>To do more than that. They need to completely reform

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 12>bail laws. They need to offer a full package that

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 12>says they're going to have better bail laws that you know, basically,

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 12>you commit.

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 2>The crime, you're in jail. Sorry, and this and that's

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 2>when Victoria's tough on crime approach at play here. Now

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to end on the fun on a fun

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>one because David, I saw your article in the Daily

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Telegraph today about your gripes with technology and one of

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>them was Siri. You know, and you talk to your phone.

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Siri told me this that David got a gripe with it.

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 2>You've written. No one asked me if I wanted a

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>lady living in my pocket who was prepared to answer

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 2>my personal questions? So why is she there? And I'm

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 2>going to say it reminded me of this mishap in

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 2>the Senate estimates. Have a look.

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<v Speaker 13>When did they leave the country to go over seas

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 13>to go to Syria, whether Syria, which country were there in,

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 13>which which refugee camp were they in?

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 7>Okay, details.

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 6>I don't mind that come up, Siri, you didn't have

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 6>it all technowledge.

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I do apologize, yes.

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Sirih likes to pop up at the worst time, David.

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 2>So maybe you've got a point.

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 10>Well, I think I do, and it's answered some questions

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 10>that I didn't ask in the past in cabinet. And

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 10>I very rarely feel sorry for Queensland senators, but Paul

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 10>had had my upstates.

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 11>Exactly, and I mean.

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 10>It just goes to show that we've got to be

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 10>ever conscious of what we're doing when it comes to technology,

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 10>because we worry about social media taking recording us. But

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 10>that's the out that's the stuff that we're not aware of.

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 2>That's it. Do you wrote your article a tragic no?

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 10>No, no, no, no, no no, it's all legitimate, all legitimate.

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, we'll take you on face value,

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>David Alian. Good to see you. Have a nice weekend.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 2>We'll see you next week. Thanks for joining me. Coming

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 2>up after the break. This week mark's two years since

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Australians overwhelmingly rejected the divisive voice I'll speak with leading

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>no campaign senator just into NEAPERGI for price next Co'm back. Well.

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>This week mark two years since we were all dragged

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 2>to the polls and the Voice referendum and blew four

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty million dollars of our own money to

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 2>do it. Sixty percent of us said no to Anthony

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Arberesi's attempts to divide us by the color of our skin.

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 2>One of the leading figures for the No campaign, just

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.760
<v Speaker 2>into nampajimper Price, has written in The Australian this week.

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Despite Australians voting no to the Voice Treaty and truth telling,

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 2>certain labor governments and leaders still won't take no for

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 2>an answer and are pressing ahead with such goals. And

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>she's not wrong. Overnight Victoria's Lower House passed the First

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Nation's Treaty Bill with the support of Labor and the Greens.

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 2>And I'm pleased to say that Liberal Senator just Sinta

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Nampa jimper Price joins me. Now, Senator, good to see you,

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for your time. Let's start with the Voice anniversary.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your reflections two years on? Have we learned

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 2>anything from it?

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 13>Well, certainly, I suppose those of us who voted no,

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 13>the sixty point zero six percent of Australians that rejected

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 13>the Voice, they basically ensured that we maintained our values

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 13>and our democracy. We understand that the labor government, the

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 13>Albanezer government, still doesn't know how to deal effectively with

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 13>Indigenous disadvantage.

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 7>But we also know.

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 13>That labor governments around the country do not respect the

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 13>will of the Australian people as well.

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you know, the voice.

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 13>It wasn't a gracious request as was suggested, or a

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 13>modest request as the Prime Minister suggested.

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 7>It was far from that. It was racially divisive, and

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 7>it would have.

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 13>Made radical changes to our democracy as we know it,

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 13>and it would have. It was ultimately about empowering activists more.

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 7>Than anything else.

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 13>It wasn't about addressing disadvantage for Indigenous those who are

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 13>disadvantaged Indigenous Australians. And let's not forget that the Prime Minister,

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 13>in all his arrogance, failed to listen to the warnings

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 13>throughout the referendum, in that he didn't hold a constitutional convention.

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 13>He failed to address the concept of having two questions,

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 13>having a split referendum about recognition constitutional recognition.

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 7>And perhaps the voice as well.

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 13>And he called Australians who were concerned chicken littles and

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 13>doomsayers when he failed to provide enough information or any

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 13>detail to their voice, and then Australians were left to

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 13>then say, well, this is what it could potentially lead to,

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 13>which is what we know. So I suppose on reflection, yeah, no,

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 13>we've seen that Labour's agenda and even the Greens and

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 13>the Left disregard the voice of the Australian people and

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:54.879
<v Speaker 13>are continuing down a path of separatism without addressing the

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 13>core issues that are really of concern.

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>And look that division has not ended, as I mentioned,

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, Victim is pushing ahead with treaty. It just

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 2>feels set at a like the progressive left, that they're

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>ultimately seeking to tear down the values and traditions of

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 2>this beautiful country with the end goal of destroying everything

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 2>that British settlers brought here. And that's the point that

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 2>you also made in your column.

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:19.959
<v Speaker 7>That's exactly right.

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 13>I mean, it's an attack on our western values, on

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 13>how we were I suppose settled.

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 7>As a country as well.

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 13>I mean, fifty four percent of Victorians voted no to

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 13>the Voice, and here the Allen Government's going, well, stuff you,

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 13>we don't care that you said no to this.

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:40.959
<v Speaker 7>We're going to continue down the path.

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 13>And I mean when we voted no to the Voice,

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 13>we know that it was wrapped up as part of

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 13>the ullaru's statement, which was Voice Treaty Truth. So the

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 13>Allen government have said, well, we're going to establish our

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 13>own legislative concept of a voice anyway through this treaty.

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 13>And let's not forget that only one percent Victorians identify

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 13>as indigenous. They spent seven hundred million dollars of taxpayer

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 13>dollars thus far through the europe Commission to get to

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 13>get to this point, and effectively what they will be

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.839
<v Speaker 13>doing is establishing governing another governing body of a Victorians,

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 13>you know, through the First Nation's Assembly, and this truth telling,

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 13>this idea they call it truth telling because really, if

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 13>you're chuck it in reverse, it's not really about telling

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 13>the truth. It's a reinvention of our history or how

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 13>they'd like to see it in order to you know,

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 13>ask for well demand reparations by what other Victorians who

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 13>were non indigenous, who had nothing to do with with

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 13>our country's history. But it's this path of separatism that

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.720
<v Speaker 13>is only going to create more destruction for the people

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 13>of Victoria and the complete Nutter disrespect for the majority

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 13>who voted no to the voice referendum in the first place.

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 13>I mean, hold your horse's Victoria. It's coming and it's

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 13>not going to be pretty.

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not. And it's dangerous because nobody ever voted

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 2>to be separated by the color of their skin. But

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 2>these governments are still pushing your head. Before we let

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 2>you go, Senator, I just want to ask you about

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 2>some breaking news that we've just got in The Sydney

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Morning Herald is reporting that Barnaby Joyce is in advanced

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 2>talks with Pauline Hansen to join One Nation. What do

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 2>you make of these reports I've just been announced now.

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 7>Well Sydney Morning Harold.

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 13>I bet it's paul Sirkarle who has gone ahead and

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 13>announced this. And what I find with the Sydney Morning

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 13>Herald is that they like to make things up. I

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 13>mean they did so, I know when it came to

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 13>talking about the leaked information about our election review through

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 13>the Liberal Party. I know that they like to put

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:55.439
<v Speaker 13>out what they think is going on. I suppose I'd

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 13>prefer to wait and see. You know, I'm a good

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:02.439
<v Speaker 13>maid of Barnaby's as well, wait and see what's real

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 13>and what's not and what's just another attempt at the

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 13>Sydney Morning Herald to blow things up and keep this

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 13>chatter and division going on with regard to the coalition.

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, I guess we'll find out so that

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 2>it was Paul's Sakala that did write that article, So

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 2>wait and see it and hopefully you have planted Barnaby

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Joyce does give us some clarifications soon, Senator just sin

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 2>nampajmper Price. Always nice to chat with you. Thanks very

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 2>much for joining me on the show. Now, look, this

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 2>is truly extraordinary. British police have banned Jewish fans from

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>a Europa League match in Birmingham next month for their

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 2>own safety. Apparently, the Aston Villa against Maccabi tel Aviv

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 2>on November six is said to be played at Villa

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Park without any away fans of the Israeli club at

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 2>the game. Now, look, if you can't protect football fans

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 2>from enjoying a national sport just because they're Jews, we'll

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>gie something must be seriously wrong. Joining me now is

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Reform UK Counselor Darren Grimes. Darren, thanks for your time.

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 2>What sort of two tier policing is this?

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 14>Soolutely right, Danika. Look, ultimately, this is a football club

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.280
<v Speaker 14>in nineteen thirty eight that refused to do the Nazi

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 14>salute and made international headlines for doing so, a football

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 14>club that stood up to fascists and Nazis. Now it's

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 14>taking the knee to is that Islamist fascists and Islamist Nazis.

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 14>In my view, as you rightly say, this is our

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 14>national sport. If Jews can't be protected from going to

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 14>a game to enjoy watching our national sport take place

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 14>for safety reasons, then Britain is on bended knee. This

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 14>isn't policing, this is surrender.

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 14>Football is meant to actually unite not just the country

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 14>but other parts of the world too, and instead we've

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:52.760
<v Speaker 14>got police saying that Jewish fans couldn't be safe in Birmingham.

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 14>Now this ought to tell us absolutely everything about where

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 14>Britain is at as a country. When Birmingham, which is

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 14>our second biggest city, isn't actually safe for Jews, it's

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 14>a complete moral collapse and I'm afraid that the police

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 14>will ultimately protect illegal migrants from protesters in pink vests.

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 14>There were ladies called the Pink Ladies Danika, who were

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 14>protesting in favor of the protection of women and girls.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 14>They were told they couldn't protest. But they will actually

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 14>stand in to protect the illegal migrants from these oppressive

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 14>pink ladies, but they won't protect Jews at a football match.

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 14>It is two tier. It is actually one rule for

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 14>those who break into our country and completely another for

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 14>those who actually have been here for goodness only knows

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:45.399
<v Speaker 14>how long and.

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Help to build it.

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 14>So ultimately, I think it's a sign of the sickness

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 14>that is running riot in Britain. And you don't beat

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 14>anti Semitists and by bannon Jews. You beat it by

0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 14>actually standing up to the biggots and protecting them.

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:03.959
<v Speaker 2>Spot on exactly. This is a national sport we're talking

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 2>about to say the Jews don't come for your own safeties.

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm in on flabbergacid to be quite honest, Darren,

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it's extraordinary. Now, Look, I want to ask

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 2>you about the latest polling reform UK has really been

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>accelerating in recent months. According to the latest MRP pole

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 2>reforms on track to win four hundred and forty five

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 2>seats labored down to seventy three MPs if an election

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 2>were held tomorrow. But do you have a look at

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 2>the toy is just seven Darren? Why is reform capturing

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 2>the mood of the British public so well? What does

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 2>it tell us?

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Look?

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 14>I actually think Danika that they ought to go to

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 14>the very heart of the problem with the Liberals in

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:42.359
<v Speaker 14>Australia as well. We have been betrayed on everything from

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 14>net zra or whackery and walkery to mass migration. This

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 14>pole isn't just showing a movement within political Voughton, it

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 14>actually shows a protest. It shows a movement people are

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 14>fed up by being talked down to by politicians who

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 14>sneer at patriot the flying of our national flag. The

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:06.240
<v Speaker 14>Tories tax us to death. Labor looks down its gnos

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 14>at us and sneers at the fact that we actually

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 14>believe that Britain is full and Reform speaks for the

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 14>millions who just want control of their country again. They

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 14>want some semblance of control over their own lives again.

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 14>Nigel Farage has given ordinary people a voice for the

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 14>first time in many, many years. And you're talking, you know,

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 14>from Durham up in the north to Devon down in

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 14>the southwest. People are saying enough to open borders to

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 14>the net zero madness, being absolutely terrified at the highest

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 14>electricity prices in the world. It's a cowardice of the

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 14>political elite. This isn't just one pole either, This is

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 14>a series of polls showing this and the direction of

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 14>travel shows that Reform are the only game in town

0:45:55.040 --> 0:46:00.160
<v Speaker 14>to actually defeat this sham of a labor government to

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 14>the very worst in LIBVN memory.

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, you're not wrong and you know this is

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the problem and we're having the same issues here in Australia.

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Well done to Reform and you're a part of it

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 2>over there, Darren, doing such a great job. Thank you

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 2>so much for joining me on the show. Really appreciate it.

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 2>We're coming up after the break the winners and losers

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 2>of the week, including Donald Trump and he's never ending handshakes.

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Plus will pay tribute to Ace Freeley, founding member and

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 2>lead guitarists of rock band Kiss, who's died overnight. It's

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 2>that time of the week where we sought the winners

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 2>from the losers, and helping me to do that is

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Skuydy's contributed to James. James, great to have you back

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 2>on the show. Thank you so much for joining me.

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Your winner. This week's Donald Trump.

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.800
<v Speaker 11>Well, it's more the art of the handshake, to be honest.

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 15>So in this Gaza P summer, Well, let's take it back.

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.399
<v Speaker 15>Let's take it back to twenty seventeen. So Donald Trump

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 15>and Emmanuel mccrin have such an interesting relationship with handshakes.

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 15>You can see this from way back when this is

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 15>now a nine second handshake going longer.

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 11>No one's letting go. Everyone wants to be the alpha

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 11>dog with the relationship.

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:06.719
<v Speaker 15>Fifteen seconds, no sign of side grass. Trump is trying

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 15>to bring other people into the mix. The handshake is

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 15>still going on.

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 2>God cringe.

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 11>So look this continues.

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 15>On like we're about to reach the thirty second mark.

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 11>Are we going to get there?

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Of course?

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.760
<v Speaker 15>Seconds of pure handshake. Now, this is what happened this week. Okay,

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:25.280
<v Speaker 15>you think these two guys have been locked in battle

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 15>for years on the handshake? How long are we going

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.959
<v Speaker 15>to last year? So we've got the handshake, we've got

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.280
<v Speaker 15>the smile, the handshakes still going. We're now in the grip.

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:33.879
<v Speaker 15>We're now in the grip. We're looking at each other.

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 15>Grips on my side, No, it's on my side.

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:36.479
<v Speaker 2>It's intent.

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:38.720
<v Speaker 15>I'm going to point at things.

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 2>We're still going what are they talking about? Do you reckon?

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 11>I don't think. I think they're so pursed.

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 15>I think they're so focused on what they need to

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 15>do that they actually can't think.

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 11>They can only think in terms of handshake.

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Their handshakes the alpha male. Well, that's extraordinary. My hand

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 2>would get sweaty. I feel like it would fall off

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 2>at this point. But you know the art of a deal,

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing, you know. Anyway, Look, I'm going to

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 2>get to my winner this week, Ace Freely.

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 15>You're found a Kiss not the biggest fan, to be honest,

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 15>it's not my genre, but well I'm sure our.

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Audience would know. He's a founding member, of course, lead

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.240
<v Speaker 2>guitarist of rock band Kiss, and he's sadly passed away

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 2>at the age of seventy four following a brain bleed,

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 2>so I wanted to do a quick tribute to him.

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 2>He was, of course the Spaceman, the iconic silver metallic

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 2>face makeup have a look. Yeah, So rest in peace,

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Ace Freely. You know, Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, they were

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 2>the main songwriters, but his guitar work was magnificent in

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 2>the background. Now, your loser of the week is a

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 2>dad having a winge about Halloween. It did.

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, he's having a winch about Halloween. He has put

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 15>together a change dot org petition to get kmart to

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 15>stop putting Halloween decorations so close to the checkout cashier

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:53.840
<v Speaker 15>because it says it scares people. Now, look, this is

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.800
<v Speaker 15>an example. It's not the store. It's an example of

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:58.839
<v Speaker 15>what people go through. Come on, let's have a bit

0:48:58.840 --> 0:48:59.319
<v Speaker 15>of fine a tale.

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 2>It's Halloween, Okay, it's meant to be scary. If you're scared,

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 2>don't go to Kmart. I say, ridiculous. Might Louder this

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 2>week had to give to form a WA premier Mark McGowan.

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a fan of Mark McGowan. Never have been

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 2>locked me out of the West for a couple of

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 2>years during COVID, So no surprises here, but he said

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 2>James at one of his political highlights was locking football

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 2>commentator Nie McGuire out during COVID when WA hosted the

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 2>AFL Grand Final. Apparently it was a highlight of his career.

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 2>He told her a property function this week, I mean,

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.280
<v Speaker 2>there can't have been many highlights if that was a highlight.

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, why is your highlight bullying someone?

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<v Speaker 15>Right, You've been a leader for so long, Like, why

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<v Speaker 15>is that the peak?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that the peak? Well that sums up Mark McGowan.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I will say, James Bolk, but to see

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<v Speaker 2>you have a good weekend. Thanks so much for joining

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<v Speaker 2>me on the show. That's it for me. I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back Sunday night for Deneka and James at seven Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Prices next.

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<v Speaker 7>Good night.