WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 3 December

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<v Speaker 1>On scolds as Kodia.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Reader Panalty Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panicky Show. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up tonight. Foreign billionaires funneling money to a taxpayer funded

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<v Speaker 1>activist body to block Australian energy projects, The unintended consequences

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<v Speaker 1>of Labour's under sixteen social media band.

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<v Speaker 3>Senator Alex Antik will join me shortly to discuss Queensland

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<v Speaker 3>Premier David Prisso Fooley under pressure to review.

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<v Speaker 1>The state's radical gender laws, and will take a close

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<v Speaker 1>look at the extraordinary scope of the Hunter Biden pardon

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<v Speaker 1>and what it means for President Joe Biden's legacy.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Hammer will join me shortly and Left.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Losing It features I rate hosts of the View

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<v Speaker 1>having to issue yet another correction under legal advice.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, I have a fairy quick smart and it's

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<v Speaker 4>not got be that quick. Pete had said has denied

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<v Speaker 4>any wrongdoing.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, it's early in the week, but we've already

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<v Speaker 1>had two apologies. We've had one from the foreign to

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<v Speaker 1>owned Australian venue company, the nation's second largest pub group,

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<v Speaker 1>has apologized for its anti Australia Day activism. I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to Senator Alex Antick about that shortly, about whether

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<v Speaker 1>we should accept that apology and how to counter corporate

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<v Speaker 1>virtue signaling. And this week we've also had an apology

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<v Speaker 1>from Senator Lydia Thorpe. The former Green has apologized to

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Pauline Hanson for calling her a convicted racist during

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<v Speaker 1>a press conference last week. This is after Senator Hanson issued.

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<v Speaker 3>A legal threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Thorpe's apologized in a letter to Senator Hanson and also

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<v Speaker 1>apologized publicly on the social media platform X.

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<v Speaker 3>Channel nine and the.

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<v Speaker 1>ABC have also apologized for airing the defamatory comments. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring in News Corps Senior writer Patrick Carlin and Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>This apology from Lydia Thought must have been a painful one.

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<v Speaker 1>She gets away with so much, but the threasher of

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<v Speaker 1>legal actions saw her apologize and apologize very quickly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, look, she got it wrong. She had to apologize,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think it was what two sentences or about

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<v Speaker 5>six words on X that actually constituted the apology. She

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<v Speaker 5>obviously didn't want to do it, but I think it

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<v Speaker 5>just goes to the biggest story of Lydia thought. You

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<v Speaker 5>look at King Charles, when was that about a month ago.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that was the moment where perhaps Australia said

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<v Speaker 5>hang on, enough is enough. And I think she sort

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<v Speaker 5>of jumped the shark at that point. And I think,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you're getting apologies, you're getting finger gestures in

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<v Speaker 5>the Senate, you're getting papers thrown around. She seems you're

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<v Speaker 5>getting angrier and even less constructive than she was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she has to do herself these days. Because

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<v Speaker 1>she had the big stunt with King Charles, got so

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<v Speaker 1>much international attention.

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<v Speaker 3>She was on every TV network in the UK, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 6>She misses that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she wants a bit more of that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of attentions. I think the type where any attention is

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<v Speaker 1>good attention, whether it's negative or not. Now, this disturbing

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<v Speaker 1>report was in Today's Daily Telegraph on the billionaire widow

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<v Speaker 1>of Apple's Steve Jobs leading a foreign charge to funnel

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<v Speaker 1>money to the taxpayer funded activist body, the Environmental Defenders Offers,

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<v Speaker 1>which tries to block Australian energy projects in court. It

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<v Speaker 1>often succeeds in delaying or stopping these projects. It's emerged

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<v Speaker 1>the foundation, launched by Lourene Jobs as well as American

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<v Speaker 1>clothing giant Patagonia, two of the top foreign contributors to

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<v Speaker 1>the Environmental Defenders.

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<v Speaker 3>Offers doesn't amount to foreign interference.

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<v Speaker 5>Patrick, Look, possibly, I think the problem with this is

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<v Speaker 5>the government doesn't know who is funding the EDO. The

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<v Speaker 5>IDEO is going to court. They're making up stories according

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<v Speaker 5>to this last ruling, trying to you know, they're acting

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<v Speaker 5>like activists, like political operative to actually shut down big projects,

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<v Speaker 5>big jobs, and it's ideologically driven, and they are being

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<v Speaker 5>funded by people we don't know the full situation with.

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<v Speaker 5>They could be funded as has been outed by a

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<v Speaker 5>foreign government that seeks to sort of undermine Australia's energy security.

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<v Speaker 5>And the fact the problem is a they're activists and

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<v Speaker 5>b the government doesn't know it who's funning them.

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<v Speaker 1>And another problem is we're also funding And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand why a single cent of tax payer money goes

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<v Speaker 1>into impoverishing us, into stopping much needed projects, particularly when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to energy, because we are paying some of

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<v Speaker 1>the highest energy costs anywhere in the world despite having

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<v Speaker 1>abundant reserves of everything coal.

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<v Speaker 3>Gas, uranium.

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<v Speaker 1>A report by the Business Counsel of Australia has ranked

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be shocked to hear this Atric Victoria as the

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<v Speaker 1>worst state to run a business.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would have thought that.

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<v Speaker 1>BCA Chief executive Brand Black said that Victoria must address

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<v Speaker 1>its regulatory environment, which is putting a handbreak on the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>He also said Victoria has some of the least competitive

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<v Speaker 1>property tax settings, payroll taxes and business business licensing requirements

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. It fundamentally needs to look at how

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<v Speaker 1>these are holding back its economy. Yes, we've got also

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest state debt by some margin.

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<v Speaker 3>South Australia, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>The country's most efficient planning system, came in at number one.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that would surprise a few people.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh look, it's not a shock that Victoria has been bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Melbourne is called the fourth most livable city in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not in the top four Liverpool cities in Australia

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<v Speaker 5>at the moment. This is just more of what Melbournians

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<v Speaker 5>already known. It is not a good place to do business.

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<v Speaker 5>It is not a good place to own a house,

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<v Speaker 5>or run a restaurant or do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything invest We've got the number of mum and dad

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<v Speaker 1>property investors selling out. You've got small business owners who

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<v Speaker 1>are fleeing, and those state taxes, the payroll tax and

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<v Speaker 1>the land taxes are just skyrocketing.

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<v Speaker 5>They're goudgets and it sort of takes you back to

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen ninety in Melbourne. We had the recession, we had

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<v Speaker 5>a long term labor government that had completely buggered up

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<v Speaker 5>the numbers for a long time, and back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>ninety we had to wait until nineteen ninety two to

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<v Speaker 5>actually vote out that government of the day. We're in

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<v Speaker 5>the same position now. There is no blue sky ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>At this stage.

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<v Speaker 5>We're two years away from a state election. Nobody's happy,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody's miserable, and it just feels like Melbourne really is

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<v Speaker 5>on the nose in such a such a really tangible way.

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<v Speaker 1>At least back then, the Victorian people had the option

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<v Speaker 1>of a different party with a very different set of

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<v Speaker 1>policies and a very strong leader. We had a Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Kennett on that and he was voted in and he

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<v Speaker 1>transformed the state under his time there. Whether you loved

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<v Speaker 1>him or hated him, he definitely had a strong impact.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a Jeff Kennett in the Liberal Party now.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got John Pursuit.

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<v Speaker 5>On and that's part of the problem, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's almost part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I was talking to a liberal person the other

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<v Speaker 5>day who's talking about Pursuito being knocked off. And we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to have this person or that person. You've got

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<v Speaker 5>the defamation case coming out soon. That's going to distract

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<v Speaker 5>and suck up so much oxygen. We need a decent

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<v Speaker 5>opposition more than ever.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't have good government without having a decent opposition,

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<v Speaker 1>and we certainly have neither of those things in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 1>Before you go, Patrick a report from Sky News his

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<v Speaker 1>own Caroline Marcus on Sydney University referring one of its

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<v Speaker 1>own academics to the police after he posted online threats

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<v Speaker 1>about a Jewish group and Sky News Australia hosts, including myself,

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<v Speaker 1>But the university says it cannot sack this character because

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<v Speaker 1>the threats were made in a personal capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>Joel Griggs wrote on.

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<v Speaker 1>X of the Australian Jewish Association in August that the

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<v Speaker 1>AJA r a fascist terror cell. If the government isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to move on these dangerous psychopaths, can we maybe

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<v Speaker 1>pull something together on Twitter? Could it be too hard

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<v Speaker 1>to find out where these people live? That's disturbing? He

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<v Speaker 1>also replied to a Sky in his Australia post on

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<v Speaker 1>X featuring Andrew Bolt saying will get you one day.

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<v Speaker 1>He also called Andrew Bolt, myself, Rowland Dean, Peter Credlin,

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<v Speaker 1>traitorous scum and great deal more there. Ah, dear me,

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<v Speaker 1>he sounds like a charming learned fellow. Indeed, Australian academia

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is a little bit disturbing.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to say, look, all of it is disturbing.

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<v Speaker 5>He's made bold threats against a number of people and

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<v Speaker 5>the university says, well, has nothing to do with us,

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<v Speaker 5>even though we employ I think on a casual basis.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's been there for a long time from what

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<v Speaker 5>I've read, and he's sitting there. You have to wonder

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<v Speaker 5>all the sort of post made after midnight or there's

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<v Speaker 5>something that they are very disturbing, and they are threats.

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<v Speaker 1>I think just as disturbing is that someone's academic future

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<v Speaker 1>could be in the hands of individuals like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Carline, thanks for your time tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me now is South Australian Liberal Senator Alex Antiq

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<v Speaker 1>Alex the foreign owned pup chain, Australian venues Co, the

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<v Speaker 1>Band Australia Day celebrations and it's two hundred plus venues

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<v Speaker 1>across the country is now issued an apology for causing

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<v Speaker 1>what it calls concern and confusion. And of course this

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<v Speaker 1>apology only came after there was a massive backlash and

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<v Speaker 1>calls for boycotts. Let's roll the list of the venues

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<v Speaker 1>this mob operates, Alex. It seems these corporate virtue signals

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<v Speaker 1>signalers have learned nothing from the war referendum that continue

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<v Speaker 1>to play these divisive political games.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, reader, I mean it seems that the sort of

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<v Speaker 7>the life cycle of wokenness now for the corporates is

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<v Speaker 7>about twenty four hours, because that's about how long it

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<v Speaker 7>took to turn the whole thing around, getting increasingly quick,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's just staggering that any of them are still

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<v Speaker 7>continuing to push these kind of agendas.

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<v Speaker 3>Through their businesses.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's bizarre. Michael Jordan, of course famously once

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<v Speaker 7>said when he was asked why he wasn't more politically

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<v Speaker 7>involved words to the effect of well Republicans by sneakers too.

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<v Speaker 7>But in twenty twenty four in these sort of businesses

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<v Speaker 7>are learning that lesson very very slowly. I think my

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<v Speaker 7>advice to them would be, if you're sitting around the

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<v Speaker 7>bordroom table and you've got your advertising people there in future,

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<v Speaker 7>just do the opposite of what they suggest and you'll

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<v Speaker 7>probably be on a winner. Otherwise you're going to end

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<v Speaker 7>up down the same track as as Gillette and with

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<v Speaker 7>their toss toxic masculinity campaign you remember for a few

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<v Speaker 7>years back, and then bud Light last year, who also

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<v Speaker 7>on the receiving in they're very slow learners, reader, very.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen that right here in Australia only last year,

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<v Speaker 1>where there was a lot of there were boycotts, but

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<v Speaker 1>people were upset by the big corporates getting involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the Voice referendum, advocating for one side exclusively and almost

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<v Speaker 1>putting pressure on their customers, their staff, their stakeholders to

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<v Speaker 1>vote a certain way in a divisive referendum and they

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<v Speaker 1>were on the wrong side it turned out. And they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seemed to have learned anything. It'll be interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see if this is forgiven and forgotten or people like

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<v Speaker 1>the bud Light experience going to say, stuff your apology,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go elsewhere. There's lots of options when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to pubs and clubs now, Alex the Albaneza

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<v Speaker 1>government did have a big win last week passing a

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<v Speaker 1>world first social media band for under sixteens. You were

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<v Speaker 1>one of the few in the coalition to vote against

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<v Speaker 1>this bill and this legislation it's not really hair brained

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<v Speaker 1>alex ideologically. It is confused, to say the least, and

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<v Speaker 1>it comes with a whole bunch of unintended consequences.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me you know this bill better than most.

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<v Speaker 1>How is a sixty five year old going to establish

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<v Speaker 1>there over sixteen so they can use Facebook without submitting

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<v Speaker 1>to digital ID or providing their passport or driver's license

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<v Speaker 1>to the social media site to identify themselves.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, this of course was the subject of what very

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<v Speaker 7>limited debate we had last week on the bill, which

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<v Speaker 7>was one of the main problems. I mean, this was

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<v Speaker 7>extraordinarily complicated stuff that was rushed through in about an hour.

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<v Speaker 7>We were lucky to get that as labor busted through

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<v Speaker 7>about thirty bills at the end of the week. So

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<v Speaker 7>that was one of the questions. The answer is less

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<v Speaker 7>clear though, it has to be said, if it's not

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<v Speaker 7>digital ID, which I think it still can be by

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<v Speaker 7>the way, I don't think that's been completely ruled out

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<v Speaker 7>by the amendment that was made. And it's not handing

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<v Speaker 7>over documents. Then what is it? Well, I asked that question,

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<v Speaker 7>and of course the answer to that is biometrics. These

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<v Speaker 7>companies are going to scan our faces, our children's faces,

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<v Speaker 7>and use that information to determine how old you are,

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<v Speaker 7>and if you're close, if there will obviously be a

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<v Speaker 7>margin of error, then they'll start asking the questions. And

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I don't know about anyone else, but that

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<v Speaker 7>alone is enough for me to have crossed the floor

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<v Speaker 7>on this. So I just can't support that. I can't

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<v Speaker 7>support the speed with which it went through. We got

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<v Speaker 7>the bill on a Thursday, It went to a very

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<v Speaker 7>brief three hour Senate hearing on the Monday, The bill

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<v Speaker 7>came to us on the Tuesday, and it was passed

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<v Speaker 7>shortly after that. So, I mean, you know, by the way, though,

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<v Speaker 7>we found time during that week to do all sorts

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<v Speaker 7>of other things, censure motions and suspending people and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, valedictory speeches, but when it came to actually

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<v Speaker 7>drilling down into this world first piece of censorship law,

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<v Speaker 7>we didn't have the time. So what's going on up

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<v Speaker 7>in that building, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I do wonder if it's ever going to be implemented

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<v Speaker 1>given the massive issues with having any sort of adherence

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<v Speaker 1>to this that is palatable to people because I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a sort of policy, particularly for those who

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<v Speaker 1>don't really use social media, which sounds good in theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, social media does harm to under sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's ban it.

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<v Speaker 1>But as soon as you start scrutinizing the policy, you

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<v Speaker 1>see it's comes with huge issues. What do you if

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<v Speaker 1>the coalition wins, the coalition back this, most of the

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<v Speaker 1>MP's back this, will you be implementing it? And will

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<v Speaker 1>that mean that you're going to give the Office of

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<v Speaker 1>the e Safety Commissioner even more power?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean I hope not.

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<v Speaker 7>But this has passed. It will go through an implementation

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<v Speaker 7>phase bureaucratics speak for let's see if we can make

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<v Speaker 7>it work. And the idea is that it'd been in

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<v Speaker 7>force by twenty twenty six. So what the hurry was

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<v Speaker 7>the last sitting week of the year is anybody's guest.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know the answer to that is we don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, there are so many things we don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Within a space of a week, we were told YouTube

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<v Speaker 7>was out, snapchat was in, then snapchat was in, and

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<v Speaker 7>YouTube was out. So I mean, I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 7>really knows how this is going to work, or if

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<v Speaker 7>it's going to work, and if it's going to fix

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<v Speaker 7>this problem that we're talking about, which we're all sympathetic

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<v Speaker 7>to kids getting bullied online. No one wants that. But

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<v Speaker 7>the problem is throwing out the baby with the bath

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<v Speaker 7>water here. And the other problem is kids are getting

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<v Speaker 7>legitimate news sources from social media. There are many kids

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<v Speaker 7>in remote locations that use this as a way of interacting,

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<v Speaker 7>and there are many kids with learning difficulties that rely

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<v Speaker 7>on a lot of these products as well. So look,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if it's workable. I doubt that it

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<v Speaker 7>will be, but we're we're going to let the bureaucrats

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<v Speaker 7>take it from here over to you.

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<v Speaker 8>Boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is just SoC shortsighted.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're right, people, kids, people.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all ages get their news from social media, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it's coming through a mainstream media network.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'd much rather kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Be watching podcasters on YouTube than I don't know, exclusively

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<v Speaker 1>reading The Guardian or the ABC. They probably have a

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<v Speaker 1>much more nuanced view of the world if they were

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<v Speaker 1>watching YouTube as opposed to the ABC. Before you go, Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get your thoughts on the ABC cheir

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Williams and his bizarre attack against podcaster Joe Rogan,

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's deeply repulsive and other slurs. He's now labeled

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<v Speaker 1>the backlash against him as demonic. This man is prone

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<v Speaker 1>to a bit of hyperbole, isn't he? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>make of this entire bizarre episode.

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<v Speaker 7>When I first read it, I could be wrong about this,

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<v Speaker 7>but I read that he didn't really know much about

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<v Speaker 7>Joe Rogan but then found him deeply repulsive or whatever

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<v Speaker 7>the language was, which was current contradictory in its first step.

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<v Speaker 7>But he clearly hasn't watched or listened to the Joe

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<v Speaker 7>Rogan experience. I mean, Joe Rogan is the sort of

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<v Speaker 7>guy who probably would share a lot of fairly left

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<v Speaker 7>wing views libertarian views as well. I mean, he backed

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<v Speaker 7>Donald Trump, but I don't know whether or not the

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<v Speaker 7>left are now punishing him for that. Maybe who knows,

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't see anything other than pretty considered, pretty sensible,

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<v Speaker 7>and very very interesting commentary coming from there. I would

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<v Speaker 7>spend more of my time listening to the Joe Rogan

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<v Speaker 7>experience than I would opening up a newspaper or listening

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<v Speaker 7>to talkback radio in this country and state, to be

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<v Speaker 7>absolutely honest, and that's what the kids are doing. They're

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<v Speaker 7>picking up their news that the generation, by the way

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<v Speaker 7>that we were told had a ten second attention span

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<v Speaker 7>and now listening to three hour deep dive discussions about

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<v Speaker 7>serious subjects. So what's deeply repulsive about that is is

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<v Speaker 7>anyone's guests. I think it'd do mister Williams the world

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<v Speaker 7>of good to actually go and have a listen to

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<v Speaker 7>one of these podcasts might change his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>He embarrassed himself and I think he really put into

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<v Speaker 1>question whether he is fit for that role. He seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be so completely out of touch with the modern

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<v Speaker 1>media environment and how people consume news, and to make

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<v Speaker 1>those sorts of comments about a personality whose work you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know. Again, you've got to question his judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to a podcast and then if that's your opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>at least it comes from an informed position. Senator Alex Antick,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for your time this evening.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks reader.

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<v Speaker 3>Still to come, A Lefty's Losing Ed plus the extraordinary scope.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Hunter Biden pardon and what it means for

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<v Speaker 1>President Joe Biden's a legacy. Josh Hammer has the details.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back now it's time for lefties losing it And

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<v Speaker 1>another day, another apology delivered by Sonny.

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<v Speaker 3>Houston on The View.

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<v Speaker 1>You know these are happening so often that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even featuring them all on this segment, but this one

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<v Speaker 1>was particularly bitter and passive aggressive, so I had to share.

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<v Speaker 3>I see you, I see you over there.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a very quick sess and it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be that quick. Pete head Seth has denied any wrongdoing.

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<v Speaker 4>His lawyer said he paid the woman in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>three to head off the threat of a basis lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 4>No charges were ever brought.

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<v Speaker 3>You rushed me for that. They're not a happy bunch,

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<v Speaker 3>are they? Not much joy there?

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<v Speaker 1>And remember when the Democrats tried to gaslight America in

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<v Speaker 1>the world with the lie that they were the Party

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<v Speaker 1>of joy, when we we all know they're the party

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<v Speaker 1>of grievance, hysteria and screechy sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>We will go back what are we not going back to?

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going back to the past where women had

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<v Speaker 2>no rights everever whatever to.

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<v Speaker 1>A young man now desperate to play the victim, here

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<v Speaker 1>is an American climate activist just bagging his country.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to say, dude, you know you're free to leave.

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<v Speaker 8>I come from a country where we ban books for

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<v Speaker 8>sport and where we tell children to hide in the

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<v Speaker 8>corners to avoid the shooters. I come from a place

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<v Speaker 8>where we bully LGBTQ kids in schools, and where we

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<v Speaker 8>are actively taking away women's rights. I come from the

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<v Speaker 8>United States.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a lot to be grateful for after the

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<v Speaker 1>US presidential election, including being spared the pain of having

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<v Speaker 1>this young last shove down our throats for the next

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<v Speaker 1>four years. Here is almost first daughter, radical leftist activist

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<v Speaker 1>Ella M.

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<v Speaker 3>Hoff. You sim girl, Sam, I can't even believe you

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<v Speaker 3>know who I am and I'm are you.

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<v Speaker 2>You cant believe me real?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you?

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<v Speaker 8>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>You are like a breath of fresh air. Every kid

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<v Speaker 3>I know is just like he knows your name is

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<v Speaker 3>singing your praises.

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<v Speaker 8>The way that you play with fashion and just unabattedly

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<v Speaker 8>yourself is the most exciting thing I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>The most exciting thing she's ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, and if you like most saint people have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea who that woman is. She's Jenna Lyon, someone told

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<v Speaker 1>me that I have no idea who she is, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you. Let's see now from American Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>Party strategist.

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<v Speaker 3>Julie Riginsky, who thinks she's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To stop the military from deporting illegal migrants.

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<v Speaker 9>Promise you with every fiber of my being, because I'll

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<v Speaker 9>probably be one of those people that if anybody comes

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<v Speaker 9>to these people and tries to drag them out by force,

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<v Speaker 9>be protests of people like me, American citizens who are

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<v Speaker 9>going to stand there and do everything possible to prevent

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<v Speaker 9>these women and children, which is all who these people are.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember when they found that cocaine in the.

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<v Speaker 1>White House and somehow they couldn't figure out whose it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Secret Service destroyed the evidence. Clearly no

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<v Speaker 1>obvious suspects came immediately to mind. Now to MSNBC and

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<v Speaker 1>far far, far left commentator Molly Jong Fast, who was

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<v Speaker 1>left speechless by.

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<v Speaker 3>News of Hunter Biden's pardon.

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<v Speaker 10>Hunter light on a mandatory gun purchase forum by saying

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<v Speaker 10>he was not illegally using or addicted to drugs. According

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<v Speaker 10>to NBC News, the President need the decision this weekend.

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<v Speaker 10>Molly Fast and furious, what do you make of this

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<v Speaker 10>new news?

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<v Speaker 2>I just heard it. I have to process it.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't have a take.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>have a take. Lady, that's your job. You've got one

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<v Speaker 3>job there and is to have a take.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch now, as CNN subjects Democrat Dan Goldman to a

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<v Speaker 1>humiliation ritual of sorts, this is a thing of beauty.

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<v Speaker 1>They literally play him footage of himself on ABC lying

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<v Speaker 1>his lefty butt off about how Joe Biden was never

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<v Speaker 1>going to pardon his son Hunter.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to say, I love CNN for this.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what you said.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to watch.

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<v Speaker 10>Do you think a pardon for his son would be

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<v Speaker 10>a mistake?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, And I don't think there's any chance that President

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<v Speaker 7>Biden is going to do that, unlike his predecessor, who

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<v Speaker 7>pardoned all of his friends.

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<v Speaker 11>What does that feel like watching yourself back then reassuring

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<v Speaker 11>people that Biden was not going to issue a pardon

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<v Speaker 11>for his son.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I think that if that Plea agreement and

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<v Speaker 5>that Plea deal had gone through, there would be no pardon.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a satisfactory outcome already.

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<v Speaker 4>Fallen that.

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<v Speaker 11>Sorry, when you reacted, this was when the deal had

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<v Speaker 11>fallen through now.

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<v Speaker 1>We were told again and again, not just by the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden White House, but also its propaganda the overwhelming majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the US media that Joe Biden would never pardon

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<v Speaker 1>his crackadd old whore enthusiast son. He has too much

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<v Speaker 1>integrity to do that. He has too much respect for

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<v Speaker 1>the legal process.

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<v Speaker 9>Major commitment from the President, accepting the outcome of the

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<v Speaker 9>trial and also pledging not to pardon his son.

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<v Speaker 3>Presidential promise to put the law before a family.

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<v Speaker 12>Shod by the jury decision.

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<v Speaker 3>I will do that, and I will not.

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<v Speaker 1>Partner letting the world know that he will not wipe

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<v Speaker 1>away the decision of twelve of his son's peers.

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<v Speaker 12>One side, Democrats and Joe Biden protecting the justice system,

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<v Speaker 12>and on the other Republicans in Trump protecting current president

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<v Speaker 12>of the United States has so much respect for the

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<v Speaker 12>law that he has said he would not pardon his son.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean what you know again, it's all about the contrast.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me now is Newsweek Senior editor at Large and

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<v Speaker 1>Article three Projects Senior Council Josh hammert Josh. Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>has not only pardoned his son, this is the most comprehensive,

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<v Speaker 1>far reaching pardon. I think we've seen Joe Biden signed

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<v Speaker 1>a full and unconditional pardon for Hunter, covering all offenses

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<v Speaker 1>against the United States which he has committed or may

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<v Speaker 1>have committed or taken part in during the period from

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<v Speaker 1>January one, twenty fourteen, through to December.

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<v Speaker 3>One, twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 1>The scope of this pardon is enormous.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>Reader, The scope is so annoy and indeed is so unprecedented.

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<v Speaker 2>Truly impressed in that I've actually spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>time trying to think over these past thirty six hours

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<v Speaker 2>or so as to whether or not there is anything

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<v Speaker 2>remotely resembling a clear president for a part in this

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<v Speaker 2>sweeping and honestly, I come up blank. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the kind of language that you put into a

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<v Speaker 2>pardon that I think back to my time in law

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<v Speaker 2>school here in the United States. I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 2>if I were a constitutional law professor, I would literally

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<v Speaker 2>put a pardon like this on a first year law

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<v Speaker 2>student exam to try to question the students as to

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<v Speaker 2>whether something like this is even permissible, as to whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's even constitutional in the first place. The short answer

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<v Speaker 2>is that it is, unfortunately, because the part and power

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<v Speaker 2>is truly cleinary. But the point is that there's just

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<v Speaker 2>there's no precedent for this. I mean, this has not happened,

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<v Speaker 2>to my knowledge anytime in recent history or in history

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<v Speaker 2>at all, let alone to actually do so to one's son,

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<v Speaker 2>to one's literal next of kin. I mean, I'm somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>flabbergast to read. I really don't necessarily have words for this.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that you're tying about the January of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen in particular, well you know what happened when

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<v Speaker 2>you're twenty fourteen. Oh yeah, that's right. Well, Hunter Biden

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<v Speaker 2>starts sitting on the board of BURISBA in the spring

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty fourteen, just a few years after January twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt read it for his subject matter expertise on

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern European Baltic Sea oil and natural gas energy exports.

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<v Speaker 2>I jest, of course, he has no expertise in this whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, you know, Joe Biden says that this

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<v Speaker 2>was an example of a politicized prosecution. I actually agree

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<v Speaker 2>with him, but for the exact opposite reason. The Special

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<v Speaker 2>Council David Weiss deliberately slow walk this case. He did

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<v Speaker 2>not look into far of the Foreign Agent's Registration Act.

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<v Speaker 2>He deliberately let the five year statute of limitations toll

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<v Speaker 2>on that particular statute. There and by the way, he

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<v Speaker 2>tried to submit a plea deal in the summer of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three that was such a sweetheart deal that

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<v Speaker 2>the federal judge Mary Ellen Norieker rejected as just being

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<v Speaker 2>too favorable to the criminal defendant. As a former federal

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<v Speaker 2>law clerk, I can tell you not something that happens

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<v Speaker 2>every day in court. This whole thing distincts from top

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<v Speaker 2>to bottom. The fish rots from the head. The silver

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<v Speaker 2>line here's a silver line now iant in a positive.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 2>The silver lining here is that when Donald Trump comes

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<v Speaker 2>into power January twenty twenty five, any morsel of credibility

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<v Speaker 2>at the Left had when they complained about Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>purported abuses of the justice system, it's over. They have

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<v Speaker 2>no credibility whatsoever. You and I both know they had

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<v Speaker 2>no credibility with the Jacksmith lawfair to begin with here.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the final nail in the coffin. This

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<v Speaker 2>is really it. At this point, they have revealed themselves

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<v Speaker 2>for the tyrants that they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm not even a little bit shocked by any

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<v Speaker 1>of this. I'm a little bit shocked by the scope

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<v Speaker 1>of the pardon because that is just astonishing, as you've

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<v Speaker 1>just explained. But let's not forget Donald Trump was impeached

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<v Speaker 1>for wanting to investigate what actually happened with Ukraine and

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Biden and Barsma just for wanting to have a

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<v Speaker 1>look at things that are now beyond the justice system.

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<v Speaker 1>Where Hunter Biden has just got this get out of

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<v Speaker 1>Jao Freaka, And I do wonder whether that get out

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<v Speaker 1>of Joao Frekat Josh is really for Joe Biden himself

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<v Speaker 1>and other members of the family, because at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, Joe Biden was the product this entire

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<v Speaker 1>pay for access scheme they were running. Joe was at

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<v Speaker 1>the center of it. Without him, there would be no

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<v Speaker 1>money coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you've nailed it. Is this pardon is

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<v Speaker 2>only partially for Hunter Biden. It really is a pardon

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<v Speaker 2>for the entire Biden family in general. Look, there have

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<v Speaker 2>been many, many on the right side of the American

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<v Speaker 2>political aisle, myself included, who have been calling for the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden DOJ, or excuse me for the Trump DOJ, that

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<v Speaker 2>is to reopen a new Special Council probe into Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>Biden come day one, to look back into possible violations

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<v Speaker 2>with the Foreign Agents Registration Act and various other overseas

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<v Speaker 2>foreign dealings. Now, with this part and in place here,

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<v Speaker 2>assuming that it is upheld in court, which again I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it will be for better or for worse. But

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<v Speaker 2>with this part and in place, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that ultimately is what Joe Biden trying to do here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's basically taking an action rita to try

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<v Speaker 2>to make a play for the presidential historians who will

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<v Speaker 2>write books about his presidency fifteen twenty thirty years now.

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<v Speaker 2>And what he's trying to do is he's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>preclude his own name and his brother's name, Jim Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess Hunter's name from being revealed in a subsequent

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<v Speaker 2>deposition or a judicial hearing or a House Republican subpoene investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to obviate all of that with the sweepy

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<v Speaker 2>nature of this part. And little does he know, though,

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<v Speaker 2>that in doing such a corrupt a venal, a grossly

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<v Speaker 2>self serving hypocritical thing. After months and months of just lying,

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<v Speaker 2>not even guess line, just straight up lying to the

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<v Speaker 2>American people over and over and over again. Little does

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<v Speaker 2>he know that he actually has sealed his faith with

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<v Speaker 2>the presidential historians here in the US. That faith, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is not what he hopes it will be.

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<v Speaker 1>I do wonder, Josh, whether he's going to be cute

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<v Speaker 1>now and try to pardon Donald Trump and his ridiculous convictions.

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<v Speaker 1>The Trump top charge, as we saw in New York Kuja,

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately going to be reversed on appeal.

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<v Speaker 3>But do you think he will do something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll pull something like that in the final wakes.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see it happening. I mean, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>they've tried this trick before, Rita. I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 2>they did this when they indicted Bob Menendez, the very

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<v Speaker 2>corrupt senator from New Jersey, the Democrat, who is taking

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<v Speaker 2>Egyptian literal bars of gold were found in his closet there.

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<v Speaker 2>They did a similar thing when they indicted Eric Adams,

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<v Speaker 2>the mayor of New York City there who apparently was

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<v Speaker 2>taking some summer money from the country of Turkey. He

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<v Speaker 2>was flying Turks shalens there, so they're actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good at this.

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<v Speaker 2>They're very good and basically dangling out these cheap objects

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<v Speaker 2>and hoping to obfuscat into bamboozle the right here in America,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to convince you that, oh, everything's above board. You see,

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<v Speaker 2>we're prosecuting both sides, or hey, we're letting both sides

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<v Speaker 2>off the huck. They're very good in that they've tried

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<v Speaker 2>this tactic before. But at this point, Rita, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the onus is on us on the right, those of

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<v Speaker 2>us who are conservatives, constitutionals, pro America patriots, to see

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<v Speaker 2>this for what it is, which an unprecedented act of

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<v Speaker 2>self serving venality in American history.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Trump has announced his pick for the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the Drug Enforcement Administration as a Hillsborough County sheriff, Chad Chronister.

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<v Speaker 1>This man's record is very different to that of say

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<v Speaker 1>Cash Ptel, his pick for FBI director, a pick that

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<v Speaker 1>his voters were absolutely thrilled about.

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<v Speaker 4>This pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Conister Cronister is well his infamous for the relatively soft

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<v Speaker 1>approach he took to the twenty twenty BLM riots. He's been,

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<v Speaker 1>though tough onposing COVID curfews and even arresting a church

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<v Speaker 1>pastor for holding services. Josh explain this selection to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Is this Donald Trump's first mistake since winning the election?

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<v Speaker 2>Rita, You know, let me first say that, not who

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<v Speaker 2>I would pick to lead the DEA. I mean, let

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<v Speaker 2>me just put my cards on table there, not who

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<v Speaker 2>I I would pick, not who I would advise Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump to pick. I say this, by the way, as

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<v Speaker 2>someone who takes the DA's task very seriously. My cousin

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<v Speaker 2>may his memory be a blessing overdose and died seven

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<v Speaker 2>years ago now from fentanyl lace cocaine, no doubt traffic

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<v Speaker 2>across the US Mexico border. So I take the drug

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<v Speaker 2>issue here in the United States very seriously. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>not the man that I would have recommended to Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and his team to pick if I had my

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<v Speaker 2>word and my brothers. But I think that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is entitled to a very large degree of deference when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to people like this, who will comprise not

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<v Speaker 2>just his cabinet, but the DA is actually then a

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<v Speaker 2>sub cabinet's second tier official. The DA technically sits below

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Justice. The DEA chief is basically he's

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<v Speaker 2>basically subservient to the Attorney General. Of the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>and from what I understand, this pick basically came from

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<v Speaker 2>Pam Bondi, who is Donald Trump's pick for Attorney General.

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<v Speaker 2>Pam Bondi and check Conis are both, they're both Floridians.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both here in Florida where I live there, I

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<v Speaker 2>think soon to be Attorney General. Bondi is very close

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<v Speaker 2>with this sheriff in Hillsboro County there so she's probably

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<v Speaker 2>entitled to her dea chief of choice. Again, not who

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<v Speaker 2>I would necessarily pick there, but it is worth noting

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<v Speaker 2>that Hillsborough County, where Kronister is sheriff, is a purple

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<v Speaker 2>to late blue county, so if he's trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>re elected as sheriff, he probably can't run a very

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<v Speaker 2>very hard right jurisdiction there. He has been very tough

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<v Speaker 2>on Prohamas protests. He's taken a stronger stance on illegal

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<v Speaker 2>immigration in general there So there are definitely some things

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<v Speaker 2>I think to look very fondly at. But again, having

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<v Speaker 2>said that, wouldn't necessarily be my first choice, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>okay with the pick if that's who Pambindi wants.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about Hamas and being tough on terrorists, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has today issued a stark warning to the terrorists holding hostages.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to read from.

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<v Speaker 1>This part of the post that he shared on truth.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, please let this truth serve to represent that

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<v Speaker 1>if the hostages are not released prior to January twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, the date that I proudly assume office

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<v Speaker 1>as President of the United States, there will be all

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<v Speaker 1>hell to pay in the Middle East, and for those

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<v Speaker 1>in charge who have a perpetrator these atrocities against humanity,

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<v Speaker 1>though is responsible, will be hit harder than anybody has

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<v Speaker 1>been hit in the long and storied history of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America. Release the hostages and now in capitals. Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen this sort of strength or clarity from

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration. Certainly, this is pure Trump. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's pace through strength strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I mean it's an amazing statement. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>truly an amazing statement.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the funny things about Donald Trump is that

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<v Speaker 2>he barely even has to act. I mean, as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as he was elected by the American people, basically, the

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<v Speaker 2>entire Middle East map already started to change. Effectively. Overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Has Balla started begging for a ceasefire. Hamas started begging

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<v Speaker 2>for a ceasefire. Ran said that was going to tone

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<v Speaker 2>down it's assault across the entire region. There, I mean, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>just the mere presence of this man, the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>achieved historical peace the Middle East's first time around, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who took out Kasam Sulimani at the bag at

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<v Speaker 2>a Rock airport in January twenty twenty. There, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the mere fact that he is there, let alone putting

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<v Speaker 2>out amazing statements like this has already changed the entire

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic of the region there. Look, the point is people

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<v Speaker 2>think that Donald Trump is like a warmonger. They's looking

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<v Speaker 2>at star wars. The Middle East was the quietest it

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<v Speaker 2>has been in decades during his presidency because again, our

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<v Speaker 2>enemies here in America no not to mess with us

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<v Speaker 2>when Donald Trump is in office. The one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>will say is that if you're going to talk like this,

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<v Speaker 2>as Donald Trump has done in truth social you better

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<v Speaker 2>be prepared to back it up with action. Having said that, though,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Donald Trump is very clearly willing to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>as he's demonstrated before there. So our enemies are now

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<v Speaker 2>on standby. They are watching this with very close eyes there,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is a very good thing. I said.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when he was Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the fourth or fifth presidential candidate

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<v Speaker 1>who said he was going to move the embassy. He

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<v Speaker 1>was going to move the American embassy, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Acknowledge Israel's capital. And there was a promise that was

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<v Speaker 3>made previously.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh, I think Clinton made it, Obama made it, Bush

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>made it.

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 3>None of them followed through. They were all too terrified.

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump followed through despite the hyperbole and the hysteria

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>that we got from the media and experts telling us

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it was going to elite, lead to bloodshed and relations

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:21.760
<v Speaker 1>were going to sour.

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 3>And what happened, Nothing really happened.

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>They dealt with it because he followed through with a pledge.

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.479
<v Speaker 1>And I think we're going to see a lot more

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>of that. I want to ask you about Meta CEO

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Mark Zuckerberg. He's met with Trump and their rumors that

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>he wants to cozy up to the administration. He wants

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to be brought into the fold and be involved in

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 1>the national reform and renewal. But should this character be trusted, Josh?

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Meta Instagram, Facebook have been notorious for suppressing, censoring conservatives

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that continue to do so, and he donates hundreds of

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars of his own money to help fortify

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty election.

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Is he a character.

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Who has proven himself, who's showing that he has changed

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>his mind about politics? Like Elon Muskaz and RFK and

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Tulsa Gabbett and some others.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I would not trust Mark Zuckerberg personally at all.

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean to put it mildly there, but he's on

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 2>this current long, extended maya culpa apology tours. It's very odd, actually,

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean this started really over the summer. He put

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 2>out some statement acknowledging that Facebook was complicit in censoring

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the Hunter Biden laptop story from The New York Post

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 2>back in twenty twenty, and he said that he apologized

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 2>for that. So he's been on this extended apology tour

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 2>for a while now. I can't quite figure out exactly

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 2>why he is doing this, though, to be honest with you,

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I find it very difficult to believe that his actual

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 2>politics and principles and ideology have changed, rather as probably

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>just a self serving measure when it comes to just

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to keep this company relevant. He probably sees his

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 2>fellow Silicon Valley titan, Elon Musk, who is now in

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Mara Lago. He's taken photos with Don Junior and Eric Trump.

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 2>He's basically, I mean Elon Musk is basically an adopted

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>son of the Trump family at this point. And this

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 2>is probably a little bit of just envy or jealousy. Frankly,

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 2>from Mark Zuckberg. You know, from one billionaire to another there.

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 2>If I had to put on my psychological lens, that's

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 2>probably what I imagine what was going on here, belok.

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, from one Jew to another, from

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 2>me to Mark Zuckerberg. Mark Zuckerberg actually had his bar

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 2>mitzvah and the synagogue in my hometown back in New

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 2>York there, So I would encourage him to spend a

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<v Speaker 2>little more time doing what we call teshuba, which is

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<v Speaker 2>which is atonement in Judaism, prior to trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>in Donald Trump's good graces. I think I think a

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<v Speaker 2>little more atonement might be in order for your previous mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankly, I tell you, I'm with you. I would not

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>trust him as far as I can throw him. And

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>if he actually really has genuinely changed his point of

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<v Speaker 1>view and waken up to some of the awful activism

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that he's been party too. Then you would think it

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<v Speaker 1>would tackle that on his own websites, on his own

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>sites Instagram and faceboo book, which are still routinely censoring

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>anything that's right of left, I mean even centrist of

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>finding themselves getting censored or suppressed.

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<v Speaker 9>There.

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<v Speaker 1>Before you go, We've got some good news. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>conservative commentator Scott Jennings being added to the editorial board

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of The La Times, a publication that has been left

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.879
<v Speaker 1>to far left for a long time. Is this going

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>to have any make any meaningful change though, Josh, Or

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>is this just a token conservative who's been added so

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>they can pretend to be balanced.

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<v Speaker 2>So the La Times, it's you know, it's worth giving

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 2>some credit or credits do. The La Times was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the major publications that ultimately refuse to endorse in

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty four election, along the Washington Post in USA. Today,

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 2>those really the big three liberal pepers which refuse to

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 2>endorse Carmala Harris or Dald Trump in this election. So

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:58.439
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they refuse to endorse and now they're

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 2>bringing Skytt Jennings is definitely a propitious sign for the

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 2>future there, but ultimately the devil will be in the

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 2>details there. I want to see what his columns look like.

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to see those voices actually represented on the

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 2>editorial boards, in house editorials. I actually published one ibed

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 2>myself at the LA Times about four and a half

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 2>years ago. Now I haven't bothered to try again. It's

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 2>been a very long time since that, since that was

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 2>a hospitable place to publish conservative commentary. So I guess

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, the proof ultimately be here in the pudding.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, Josh, I differ with you on that point. I

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>don't give them credit for not endorsing Kamala, and same

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>with the Washington Post because they run nothing but pro

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Kamala anti Trump material twenty four to seven, and then

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>they don't endorse, pretending that that means they're balanced or

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 1>they're then they're not committed to one side when we

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 1>all know where their politics and their agenda runs. So

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>we'll be watching and saying if Scott Jennings has an

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:50.959
<v Speaker 1>impact at the LA Times.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Hamma, thanks for your time tonight. Thank you. Rider

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:55.399
<v Speaker 3>still to come.

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<v Speaker 1>Pressure on Queensland Premier David Chris of Fooley to review

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<v Speaker 1>the states writing gender laws.

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<v Speaker 3>Stephanie Bastian is up next.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, joining me now as the head of Advocacy

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<v Speaker 1>at Women's Forum Australia. Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie, Let's begin in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 1>where there is increasing pressure on Premier David Chrisafooley to

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<v Speaker 1>reform the states so called gender care laws. Government MP's

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 1>are set to be eager to pass legislation to protect

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>kids from dangerous and sometimes irreversible gender treatments.

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<v Speaker 3>What else can you tell me about this?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, good evening, Rita. Well, we haven't seen anything come

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.359
<v Speaker 6>on the agenda just yet. I imagine David's been very

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 6>busy implementing some of his other pre election commitments, including

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 6>tackling crime and excessive government expenditure. However, I can't fault

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 6>his ministerial appointments. We now have Fiona Simpson who is

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 6>the new Minister for Women and unlike her preecessor, she

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:04.720
<v Speaker 6>actually knows what a woman is and she's advocated throughout

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 6>her career for women's sex based rights. And of course

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 6>the new Minister for Health, Tim Nichols, is also a

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 6>very good appointment. During the birthdesths and Marriages debate last

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.840
<v Speaker 6>year in Parliament, he gave a very passionate speech on

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 6>the harms of socially transitioning children and how that can

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 6>lead to medical transition and the implications with that, especially

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 6>the fact that they cannot consent even with support of

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 6>their parents. The coma bit issues that come with genderice

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 6>for including autism and other neurodivergencies, suppression anxiety, backgrounds of trauma,

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:41.240
<v Speaker 6>and of course the social contagent aspect.

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<v Speaker 8>So he is well and.

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<v Speaker 6>Truly across the issue. He's obviously invested time in looking

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:48.879
<v Speaker 6>into it, and I have full faith that he would

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 6>be more than capable to lead reforms. I just hope

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.439
<v Speaker 6>that we see something on the agenda soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it would just be good to see a review, Stephanie.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be good to see a review of these practices,

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:06.359
<v Speaker 1>see what the outcomes have been, how many are undergoing

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 1>these treatments at what ages, and to do this sort

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>of reviews that we've seen elsewhere in the world in

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the UK, Scandinavia, many parts of the US. Australia is

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a bit of an outlier right now. We're just blindly

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>following this model without really any care of the consequences

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>for the confused kids or undergoing these treatments.

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 6>Oh, absolutely, we are behind the rest of the world.

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 6>Even America now is making moves in the right direction,

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 6>and New Zealand just a couple of weeks ago announced

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 6>one of their health regulatory bodies has urged caution on

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 6>using puberty blockers to treat children, and we are waiting

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 6>for further announcements that are expected to come from the

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 6>Health minister over there. So I think a review is

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 6>certainly a first step, but I would be calling for

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:01.240
<v Speaker 6>a halt on these medical treatments that kids are receiving

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 6>surgeries at a very young age. In Queensland, we know

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.760
<v Speaker 6>that they're going on puberty blockers before they're even twelve

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 6>or thirteen, So I would be halting treatments and then

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 6>organizing a review most certainly.

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you I think we're going to see

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 1>lawsuits in the future, class action lawsuits, and I think

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 1>they'll be very much deserved because I think a lot

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 1>of confused kids have been prescribed treatments that are going

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 1>to leave them with lifelong medical consequences. Moving on to

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>how captured segments of the media are by radical gender theory.

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>This passage out of The New York Times was incredible.

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>They somehow managed to make women a subcategory.

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 3>In their own sex.

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>In a recent piece, they referred to women as non

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 1>transgender women, and this has.

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Caused all sorts of backlash.

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Even leftists like Martine and Navrattel over the Tennis Great

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 1>spoke out against ishes said, New York Times, you stink.

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 1>We are women, not non transgender women, just women will

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:14.280
<v Speaker 1>do in the future.

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 3>What's your reaction to this?

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Every now and then something comes along and you think,

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>surely not. That has to be parody, it has to

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.439
<v Speaker 1>be satire, and it ends up being real.

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.879
<v Speaker 6>I know, it's ridiculous. I think people are realizing more

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 6>and more just how ideologically captured these outlets are. Over

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 6>in America, it's the New York Times. Here it's the ABC,

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 6>And I think with the election of Trump and the

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 6>whole campaign on the issue, more and more women are

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 6>able to speak out and actually voice their opinions on it,

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 6>which is increasing, which is very positive. But there are

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 6>a number of issues with that piece. I mean, they

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 6>were still disputing the science and the physiological differences between

0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 6>men and women in sport.

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 3>My five year old knows the difference.

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 6>In the playground quite frankly, and so I think that

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 6>these publications are obviously ideologically captured. No one is going

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 6>to take them seriously until they start reporting on these

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:12.320
<v Speaker 6>things properly.

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>And just on the subject matter of that New York

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Times piece, the volleyball scandal we've spoken about previously on

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>this program, it looks like the transgender player San Jose States,

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Blair Fleming, has played his final college volleyball game. Do

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you feel like the sports administrators learned anything during this saga,

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>do you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, reader, I don't think they have, and they should

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 6>probably be sacked the litigation. There's an impending litigation against

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:47.839
<v Speaker 6>them that started before the end of this season. It

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:51.440
<v Speaker 6>didn't make them think twice or change direction. They had

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 6>a whole election campaign run on this issue. In fact,

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 6>it was an injury within the sporting team that put

0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 6>it on the Republican agenda, and they haven't learned their lesson.

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 6>I think that there are some people who are so invested,

0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:07.760
<v Speaker 6>who are so politically invested in this, they are beyond

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 6>learning lessons. Perhaps a slap in the face in court

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 6>might do it. Unlikely, but still I think for the

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.720
<v Speaker 6>integrity of the sport, they all need to be dismissed

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 6>in a new administration. Put in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think one hundred percent right there.

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:26.800
<v Speaker 1>They are putting women at risk, they're putting athletes at risk,

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and it shouldn't be up to the individual athletes to

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 1>take a stand to boycott games. But it's come to

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that because the administrators have proved themselves to be utterly

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:41.879
<v Speaker 1>gutlers or ideological. Stephanie Bastian, thanks so much for your

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 1>time this evening, and that's it from me.

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Up next is Newsnight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you at eleven tomorrow with Douglas Murray