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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panicky Show. Coming

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Speaker 1: up tonight. Foreign billionaires funneling money to a taxpayer funded

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Speaker 1: activist body to block Australian energy projects, The unintended consequences

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Speaker 1: of Labour's under sixteen social media band.

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Speaker 3: Senator Alex Antik will join me shortly to discuss Queensland

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Speaker 3: Premier David Prisso Fooley under pressure to review.

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Speaker 1: The state's radical gender laws, and will take a close

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Speaker 1: look at the extraordinary scope of the Hunter Biden pardon

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Speaker 1: and what it means for President Joe Biden's legacy.

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Speaker 3: Josh Hammer will join me shortly and Left.

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Speaker 1: Is Losing It features I rate hosts of the View

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Speaker 1: having to issue yet another correction under legal advice.

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Speaker 4: Of course, I have a fairy quick smart and it's

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Speaker 4: not got be that quick. Pete had said has denied

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Speaker 4: any wrongdoing.

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Speaker 1: But first, it's early in the week, but we've already

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Speaker 1: had two apologies. We've had one from the foreign to

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Speaker 1: owned Australian venue company, the nation's second largest pub group,

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Speaker 1: has apologized for its anti Australia Day activism. I'll be

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Speaker 1: speaking to Senator Alex Antick about that shortly, about whether

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Speaker 1: we should accept that apology and how to counter corporate

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Speaker 1: virtue signaling. And this week we've also had an apology

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Speaker 1: from Senator Lydia Thorpe. The former Green has apologized to

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Speaker 1: Senator Pauline Hanson for calling her a convicted racist during

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Speaker 1: a press conference last week. This is after Senator Hanson issued.

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Speaker 3: A legal threat.

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Speaker 1: Thorpe's apologized in a letter to Senator Hanson and also

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Speaker 1: apologized publicly on the social media platform X.

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Speaker 3: Channel nine and the.

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Speaker 1: ABC have also apologized for airing the defamatory comments. Let's

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Speaker 1: bring in News Corps Senior writer Patrick Carlin and Patrick.

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Speaker 1: This apology from Lydia Thought must have been a painful one.

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Speaker 1: She gets away with so much, but the threasher of

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Speaker 1: legal actions saw her apologize and apologize very quickly.

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Speaker 5: Yes, look, she got it wrong. She had to apologize,

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Speaker 5: and I think it was what two sentences or about

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Speaker 5: six words on X that actually constituted the apology. She

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Speaker 5: obviously didn't want to do it, but I think it

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Speaker 5: just goes to the biggest story of Lydia thought. You

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Speaker 5: look at King Charles, when was that about a month ago.

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Speaker 5: I think that was the moment where perhaps Australia said

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Speaker 5: hang on, enough is enough. And I think she sort

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Speaker 5: of jumped the shark at that point. And I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, you're getting apologies, you're getting finger gestures in

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Speaker 5: the Senate, you're getting papers thrown around. She seems you're

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Speaker 5: getting angrier and even less constructive than she was.

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Speaker 1: I think she has to do herself these days. Because

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Speaker 1: she had the big stunt with King Charles, got so

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Speaker 1: much international attention.

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Speaker 3: She was on every TV network in the UK, and

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 6: She misses that.

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Speaker 1: I think she wants a bit more of that kind

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Speaker 1: of attentions. I think the type where any attention is

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Speaker 1: good attention, whether it's negative or not. Now, this disturbing

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Speaker 1: report was in Today's Daily Telegraph on the billionaire widow

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Speaker 1: of Apple's Steve Jobs leading a foreign charge to funnel

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Speaker 1: money to the taxpayer funded activist body, the Environmental Defenders Offers,

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Speaker 1: which tries to block Australian energy projects in court. It

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Speaker 1: often succeeds in delaying or stopping these projects. It's emerged

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Speaker 1: the foundation, launched by Lourene Jobs as well as American

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Speaker 1: clothing giant Patagonia, two of the top foreign contributors to

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Speaker 1: the Environmental Defenders.

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Speaker 3: Offers doesn't amount to foreign interference.

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Speaker 5: Patrick, Look, possibly, I think the problem with this is

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Speaker 5: the government doesn't know who is funding the EDO. The

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Speaker 5: IDEO is going to court. They're making up stories according

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Speaker 5: to this last ruling, trying to you know, they're acting

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Speaker 5: like activists, like political operative to actually shut down big projects,

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Speaker 5: big jobs, and it's ideologically driven, and they are being

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Speaker 5: funded by people we don't know the full situation with.

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Speaker 5: They could be funded as has been outed by a

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Speaker 5: foreign government that seeks to sort of undermine Australia's energy security.

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Speaker 5: And the fact the problem is a they're activists and

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Speaker 5: b the government doesn't know it who's funning them.

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Speaker 1: And another problem is we're also funding And I don't

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Speaker 1: understand why a single cent of tax payer money goes

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Speaker 1: into impoverishing us, into stopping much needed projects, particularly when

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Speaker 1: it comes to energy, because we are paying some of

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Speaker 3: Gas, uranium.

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Speaker 1: A report by the Business Counsel of Australia has ranked

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Speaker 1: you'll be shocked to hear this Atric Victoria as the

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Speaker 1: worst state to run a business.

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Speaker 3: Who would have thought that.

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Speaker 1: BCA Chief executive Brand Black said that Victoria must address

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Speaker 1: its regulatory environment, which is putting a handbreak on the economy.

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Speaker 1: He also said Victoria has some of the least competitive

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Speaker 1: property tax settings, payroll taxes and business business licensing requirements

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Speaker 1: in the country. It fundamentally needs to look at how

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Speaker 1: these are holding back its economy. Yes, we've got also

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Speaker 1: the biggest state debt by some margin.

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Speaker 3: South Australia, which is.

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Speaker 1: The country's most efficient planning system, came in at number one.

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Speaker 3: I think that would surprise a few people.

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Speaker 5: Oh look, it's not a shock that Victoria has been bad.

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Speaker 5: Melbourne is called the fourth most livable city in the world.

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Speaker 5: It's not in the top four Liverpool cities in Australia

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Speaker 5: at the moment. This is just more of what Melbournians

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Speaker 5: already known. It is not a good place to do business.

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Speaker 5: It is not a good place to own a house,

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Speaker 5: or run a restaurant or do anything.

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Speaker 1: Everything invest We've got the number of mum and dad

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Speaker 1: the land taxes are just skyrocketing.

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Speaker 5: They're goudgets and it sort of takes you back to

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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety in Melbourne. We had the recession, we had

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Speaker 5: a long term labor government that had completely buggered up

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Speaker 5: the numbers for a long time, and back in nineteen

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Speaker 5: actually vote out that government of the day. We're in

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Speaker 5: the same position now. There is no blue sky ahead.

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Speaker 2: At this stage.

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Speaker 5: We're two years away from a state election. Nobody's happy,

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Speaker 5: everybody's miserable, and it just feels like Melbourne really is

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Speaker 5: on the nose in such a such a really tangible way.

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Speaker 1: At least back then, the Victorian people had the option

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Speaker 1: We don't have a Jeff Kennett in the Liberal Party now.

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Speaker 1: We've got John Pursuit.

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Speaker 5: On and that's part of the problem, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: That's almost part of the problem.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I was talking to a liberal person the other

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Speaker 5: day who's talking about Pursuito being knocked off. And we're

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Speaker 5: going to have this person or that person. You've got

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Speaker 5: the defamation case coming out soon. That's going to distract

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Speaker 5: and suck up so much oxygen. We need a decent

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Speaker 5: opposition more than ever.

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Speaker 1: You can't have good government without having a decent opposition,

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Speaker 1: and we certainly have neither of those things in Victoria.

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Speaker 1: Before you go, Patrick a report from Sky News his

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Speaker 1: own Caroline Marcus on Sydney University referring one of its

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Speaker 1: own academics to the police after he posted online threats

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Speaker 1: about a Jewish group and Sky News Australia hosts, including myself,

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Speaker 1: But the university says it cannot sack this character because

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Speaker 1: the threats were made in a personal capacity.

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Speaker 3: Joel Griggs wrote on.

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Speaker 1: AJA r a fascist terror cell. If the government isn't

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Speaker 1: going to move on these dangerous psychopaths, can we maybe

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Speaker 1: pull something together on Twitter? Could it be too hard

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Speaker 1: to find out where these people live? That's disturbing? He

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Speaker 1: also replied to a Sky in his Australia post on

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Speaker 1: X featuring Andrew Bolt saying will get you one day.

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Speaker 1: He also called Andrew Bolt, myself, Rowland Dean, Peter Credlin,

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Speaker 1: traitorous scum and great deal more there. Ah, dear me,

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Speaker 1: he sounds like a charming learned fellow. Indeed, Australian academia

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Speaker 1: this is this is a little bit disturbing.

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Speaker 3: I've got to say, look, all of it is disturbing.

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Speaker 5: He's made bold threats against a number of people and

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Speaker 5: the university says, well, has nothing to do with us,

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Speaker 5: even though we employ I think on a casual basis.

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Speaker 5: But it's been there for a long time from what

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Speaker 5: I've read, and he's sitting there. You have to wonder

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Speaker 5: all the sort of post made after midnight or there's

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Speaker 5: something that they are very disturbing, and they are threats.

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Speaker 1: I think just as disturbing is that someone's academic future

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Speaker 3: Patrick Carline, thanks for your time tonight.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is South Australian Liberal Senator Alex Antiq

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Speaker 1: Alex the foreign owned pup chain, Australian venues Co, the

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Speaker 1: Band Australia Day celebrations and it's two hundred plus venues

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Speaker 1: across the country is now issued an apology for causing

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Speaker 1: what it calls concern and confusion. And of course this

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Speaker 1: apology only came after there was a massive backlash and

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Speaker 1: calls for boycotts. Let's roll the list of the venues

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Speaker 1: this mob operates, Alex. It seems these corporate virtue signals

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Speaker 1: signalers have learned nothing from the war referendum that continue

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Speaker 7: Yeah, reader, I mean it seems that the sort of

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Speaker 7: about twenty four hours, because that's about how long it

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Speaker 7: and it's just staggering that any of them are still

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Speaker 7: continuing to push these kind of agendas.

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Speaker 3: Through their businesses.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's bizarre. Michael Jordan, of course famously once

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Speaker 7: involved words to the effect of well Republicans by sneakers too.

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Speaker 7: But in twenty twenty four in these sort of businesses

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Speaker 7: are learning that lesson very very slowly. I think my

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Speaker 7: advice to them would be, if you're sitting around the

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Speaker 7: bordroom table and you've got your advertising people there in future,

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Speaker 7: just do the opposite of what they suggest and you'll

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Speaker 7: probably be on a winner. Otherwise you're going to end

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Speaker 7: up down the same track as as Gillette and with

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Speaker 7: their toss toxic masculinity campaign you remember for a few

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Speaker 1: We've seen that right here in Australia only last year,

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Speaker 1: where there was a lot of there were boycotts, but

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Speaker 1: people were upset by the big corporates getting involved in

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Speaker 1: the Voice referendum, advocating for one side exclusively and almost

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Speaker 1: putting pressure on their customers, their staff, their stakeholders to

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Speaker 1: vote a certain way in a divisive referendum and they

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Speaker 1: haven't seemed to have learned anything. It'll be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see if this is forgiven and forgotten or people like

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Speaker 1: the bud Light experience going to say, stuff your apology,

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Speaker 1: We're going to go elsewhere. There's lots of options when

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Speaker 1: it comes to pubs and clubs now, Alex the Albaneza

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Speaker 1: government did have a big win last week passing a

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Speaker 1: world first social media band for under sixteens. You were

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Speaker 1: this bill and this legislation it's not really hair brained

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Speaker 1: alex ideologically. It is confused, to say the least, and

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Speaker 1: it comes with a whole bunch of unintended consequences.

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Speaker 3: Tell me you know this bill better than most.

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Speaker 1: How is a sixty five year old going to establish

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Speaker 1: there over sixteen so they can use Facebook without submitting

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Speaker 3: Still to come, A Lefty's Losing Ed plus the extraordinary scope.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back now it's time for lefties losing it And

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Speaker 1: You know these are happening so often that I'm not

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Speaker 4: I have a very quick sess and it's not gonna

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Speaker 3: You rushed me for that. They're not a happy bunch,

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Speaker 4: This is what you said.

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Speaker 1: his crackadd old whore enthusiast son. He has too much

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Speaker 1: integrity to do that. He has too much respect for

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Speaker 1: the legal process.

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Speaker 9: Major commitment from the President, accepting the outcome of the

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Speaker 9: trial and also pledging not to pardon his son.

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Speaker 3: Presidential promise to put the law before a family.

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Speaker 12: Shod by the jury decision.

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Speaker 3: I will do that, and I will not.

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Speaker 1: Partner letting the world know that he will not wipe

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Speaker 1: away the decision of twelve of his son's peers.

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Speaker 12: One side, Democrats and Joe Biden protecting the justice system,

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Speaker 12: and on the other Republicans in Trump protecting current president

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Speaker 12: of the United States has so much respect for the

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Speaker 12: law that he has said he would not pardon his son.

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Speaker 12: I mean what you know again, it's all about the contrast.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is Newsweek Senior editor at Large and

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Speaker 1: Article three Projects Senior Council Josh hammert Josh. Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: has not only pardoned his son, this is the most comprehensive,

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Speaker 1: far reaching pardon. I think we've seen Joe Biden signed

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Speaker 1: a full and unconditional pardon for Hunter, covering all offenses

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Speaker 1: against the United States which he has committed or may

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Speaker 1: have committed or taken part in during the period from

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Speaker 1: January one, twenty fourteen, through to December.

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Speaker 3: One, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Four including but not limited to all offenses charged or prosecuted.

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Speaker 1: The scope of this pardon is enormous.

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Speaker 3: Josh.

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Speaker 2: Reader, The scope is so annoy and indeed is so unprecedented.

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Speaker 2: Truly impressed in that I've actually spent a lot of

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Speaker 2: time trying to think over these past thirty six hours

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Speaker 2: or so as to whether or not there is anything

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Speaker 2: remotely resembling a clear president for a part in this

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Speaker 2: sweeping and honestly, I come up blank. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is the kind of language that you put into a

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Speaker 2: pardon that I think back to my time in law

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Speaker 2: school here in the United States. I mean, I would

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Speaker 2: if I were a constitutional law professor, I would literally

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Speaker 2: put a pardon like this on a first year law

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Speaker 2: student exam to try to question the students as to

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Speaker 2: whether something like this is even permissible, as to whether

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Speaker 2: it's even constitutional in the first place. The short answer

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Speaker 2: is that it is, unfortunately, because the part and power

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Speaker 2: is truly cleinary. But the point is that there's just

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Speaker 2: there's no precedent for this. I mean, this has not happened,

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Speaker 2: to my knowledge anytime in recent history or in history

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Speaker 2: at all, let alone to actually do so to one's son,

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Speaker 2: to one's literal next of kin. I mean, I'm somewhat

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Speaker 2: flabbergast to read. I really don't necessarily have words for this.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that you're tying about the January of

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen in particular, well you know what happened when

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Speaker 2: you're twenty fourteen. Oh yeah, that's right. Well, Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: starts sitting on the board of BURISBA in the spring

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Speaker 2: of twenty fourteen, just a few years after January twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 2: no doubt read it for his subject matter expertise on

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Speaker 2: Eastern European Baltic Sea oil and natural gas energy exports.

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Speaker 2: I jest, of course, he has no expertise in this whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, Joe Biden says that this

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Speaker 2: was an example of a politicized prosecution. I actually agree

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Speaker 2: with him, but for the exact opposite reason. The Special

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Speaker 2: Council David Weiss deliberately slow walk this case. He did

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Speaker 2: not look into far of the Foreign Agent's Registration Act.

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Speaker 2: He deliberately let the five year statute of limitations toll

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Speaker 2: on that particular statute. There and by the way, he

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Speaker 2: tried to submit a plea deal in the summer of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three that was such a sweetheart deal that

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Speaker 2: the federal judge Mary Ellen Norieker rejected as just being

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Speaker 2: too favorable to the criminal defendant. As a former federal

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Speaker 2: law clerk, I can tell you not something that happens

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Speaker 2: every day in court. This whole thing distincts from top

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Speaker 2: to bottom. The fish rots from the head. The silver

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Speaker 2: line here's a silver line now iant in a positive.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: The silver lining here is that when Donald Trump comes

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Speaker 2: into power January twenty twenty five, any morsel of credibility

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Speaker 2: at the Left had when they complained about Donald Trump's

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Speaker 2: purported abuses of the justice system, it's over. They have

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Speaker 2: no credibility whatsoever. You and I both know they had

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Speaker 2: no credibility with the Jacksmith lawfair to begin with here.

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Speaker 2: But this is the final nail in the coffin. This

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Speaker 2: is really it. At this point, they have revealed themselves

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Speaker 2: for the tyrants that they are.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not even a little bit shocked by any

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Speaker 1: of this. I'm a little bit shocked by the scope

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Speaker 1: of the pardon because that is just astonishing, as you've

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Speaker 1: just explained. But let's not forget Donald Trump was impeached

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Speaker 1: for wanting to investigate what actually happened with Ukraine and

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and Barsma just for wanting to have a

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Speaker 1: look at things that are now beyond the justice system.

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Speaker 1: Where Hunter Biden has just got this get out of

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Speaker 1: Jao Freaka, And I do wonder whether that get out

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Speaker 1: of Joao Frekat Josh is really for Joe Biden himself

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Speaker 1: and other members of the family, because at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, Joe Biden was the product this entire

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Speaker 1: pay for access scheme they were running. Joe was at

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Speaker 1: the center of it. Without him, there would be no

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Speaker 1: money coming in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've nailed it. Is this pardon is

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Speaker 2: only partially for Hunter Biden. It really is a pardon

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Speaker 2: for the entire Biden family in general. Look, there have

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Speaker 2: been many, many on the right side of the American

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Speaker 2: political aisle, myself included, who have been calling for the

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Speaker 2: Biden DOJ, or excuse me for the Trump DOJ, that

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Speaker 2: is to reopen a new Special Council probe into Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden come day one, to look back into possible violations

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Speaker 2: with the Foreign Agents Registration Act and various other overseas

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Speaker 2: foreign dealings. Now, with this part and in place here,

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Speaker 2: assuming that it is upheld in court, which again I

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Speaker 2: believe it will be for better or for worse. But

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Speaker 2: with this part and in place, you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: And that ultimately is what Joe Biden trying to do here.

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Speaker 2: I think he's basically taking an action rita to try

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Speaker 2: to make a play for the presidential historians who will

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Speaker 2: write books about his presidency fifteen twenty thirty years now.

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Speaker 2: And what he's trying to do is he's trying to

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Speaker 2: preclude his own name and his brother's name, Jim Biden,

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Speaker 2: I guess Hunter's name from being revealed in a subsequent

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Speaker 2: deposition or a judicial hearing or a House Republican subpoene investigation.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to obviate all of that with the sweepy

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Speaker 2: nature of this part. And little does he know, though,

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Speaker 2: that in doing such a corrupt a venal, a grossly

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Speaker 2: self serving hypocritical thing. After months and months of just lying,

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Speaker 2: not even guess line, just straight up lying to the

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Speaker 2: American people over and over and over again. Little does

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Speaker 2: he know that he actually has sealed his faith with

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Speaker 2: the presidential historians here in the US. That faith, though,

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Speaker 2: is not what he hopes it will be.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder, Josh, whether he's going to be cute

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Speaker 1: now and try to pardon Donald Trump and his ridiculous convictions.

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Speaker 1: The Trump top charge, as we saw in New York Kuja,

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Speaker 1: ultimately going to be reversed on appeal.

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Speaker 3: But do you think he will do something like that.

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Speaker 3: He'll pull something like that in the final wakes.

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Speaker 2: I can see it happening. I mean, but you know

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Speaker 2: they've tried this trick before, Rita. I mean, you know

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Speaker 2: they did this when they indicted Bob Menendez, the very

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Speaker 2: corrupt senator from New Jersey, the Democrat, who is taking

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Speaker 2: Egyptian literal bars of gold were found in his closet there.

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Speaker 2: They did a similar thing when they indicted Eric Adams,

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Speaker 2: the mayor of New York City there who apparently was

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Speaker 2: taking some summer money from the country of Turkey. He

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Speaker 2: was flying Turks shalens there, so they're actually.

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Speaker 3: Very good at this.

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Speaker 2: They're very good and basically dangling out these cheap objects

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Speaker 2: and hoping to obfuscat into bamboozle the right here in America,

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Speaker 2: trying to convince you that, oh, everything's above board. You see,

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Speaker 2: we're prosecuting both sides, or hey, we're letting both sides

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Speaker 2: off the huck. They're very good in that they've tried

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Speaker 2: this tactic before. But at this point, Rita, I think

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Speaker 2: the onus is on us on the right, those of

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Speaker 2: us who are conservatives, constitutionals, pro America patriots, to see

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Speaker 2: this for what it is, which an unprecedented act of

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Speaker 2: self serving venality in American history.

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Speaker 1: Now, Trump has announced his pick for the head of

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Speaker 1: the Drug Enforcement Administration as a Hillsborough County sheriff, Chad Chronister.

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Speaker 1: This man's record is very different to that of say

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Speaker 1: Cash Ptel, his pick for FBI director, a pick that

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Speaker 1: his voters were absolutely thrilled about.

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Speaker 4: This pick.

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Speaker 1: Conister Cronister is well his infamous for the relatively soft

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Speaker 1: approach he took to the twenty twenty BLM riots. He's been,

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Speaker 1: though tough onposing COVID curfews and even arresting a church

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Speaker 1: pastor for holding services. Josh explain this selection to me,

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Speaker 1: Is this Donald Trump's first mistake since winning the election?

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Speaker 2: Rita, You know, let me first say that, not who

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Speaker 2: I would pick to lead the DEA. I mean, let

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Speaker 2: me just put my cards on table there, not who

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Speaker 2: I I would pick, not who I would advise Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump to pick. I say this, by the way, as

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Speaker 2: someone who takes the DA's task very seriously. My cousin

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Speaker 2: may his memory be a blessing overdose and died seven

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Speaker 2: years ago now from fentanyl lace cocaine, no doubt traffic

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Speaker 2: across the US Mexico border. So I take the drug

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Speaker 2: issue here in the United States very seriously. So again,

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Speaker 2: not the man that I would have recommended to Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump and his team to pick if I had my

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Speaker 2: word and my brothers. But I think that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: is entitled to a very large degree of deference when

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Speaker 2: it comes to people like this, who will comprise not

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Speaker 2: just his cabinet, but the DA is actually then a

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Speaker 2: sub cabinet's second tier official. The DA technically sits below

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Speaker 2: the Department of Justice. The DEA chief is basically he's

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Speaker 2: basically subservient to the Attorney General. Of the United States,

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Speaker 2: and from what I understand, this pick basically came from

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Speaker 2: Pam Bondi, who is Donald Trump's pick for Attorney General.

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Speaker 2: Pam Bondi and check Conis are both, they're both Floridians.

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Speaker 2: They're both here in Florida where I live there, I

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Speaker 2: think soon to be Attorney General. Bondi is very close

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Speaker 2: with this sheriff in Hillsboro County there so she's probably

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Speaker 2: entitled to her dea chief of choice. Again, not who

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Speaker 2: I would necessarily pick there, but it is worth noting

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Speaker 2: that Hillsborough County, where Kronister is sheriff, is a purple

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Speaker 2: to late blue county, so if he's trying to get

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Speaker 2: re elected as sheriff, he probably can't run a very

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Speaker 2: very hard right jurisdiction there. He has been very tough

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Speaker 2: on Prohamas protests. He's taken a stronger stance on illegal

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Speaker 2: immigration in general there So there are definitely some things

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Speaker 2: I think to look very fondly at. But again, having

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Speaker 2: said that, wouldn't necessarily be my first choice, but I'm

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Speaker 2: okay with the pick if that's who Pambindi wants.

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Speaker 1: Talking about Hamas and being tough on terrorists, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: has today issued a stark warning to the terrorists holding hostages.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to read from.

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Speaker 1: This part of the post that he shared on truth.

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Speaker 1: He said, please let this truth serve to represent that

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Speaker 1: if the hostages are not released prior to January twenty,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the date that I proudly assume office

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Speaker 1: as President of the United States, there will be all

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Speaker 1: hell to pay in the Middle East, and for those

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Speaker 1: in charge who have a perpetrator these atrocities against humanity,

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Speaker 1: though is responsible, will be hit harder than anybody has

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Speaker 1: been hit in the long and storied history of the

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Speaker 1: United States of America. Release the hostages and now in capitals. Josh,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen this sort of strength or clarity from

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration. Certainly, this is pure Trump. This is

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Speaker 1: Trump's pace through strength strategy.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean it's an amazing statement. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: truly an amazing statement.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: One of the funny things about Donald Trump is that

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Speaker 2: he barely even has to act. I mean, as soon

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Speaker 2: as he was elected by the American people, basically, the

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Speaker 2: entire Middle East map already started to change. Effectively. Overnight.

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Speaker 2: Has Balla started begging for a ceasefire. Hamas started begging

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Speaker 2: for a ceasefire. Ran said that was going to tone

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Speaker 2: down it's assault across the entire region. There, I mean, basically,

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Speaker 2: just the mere presence of this man, the guy who

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Speaker 2: achieved historical peace the Middle East's first time around, the

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Speaker 2: guy who took out Kasam Sulimani at the bag at

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Speaker 2: a Rock airport in January twenty twenty. There, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the mere fact that he is there, let alone putting

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Speaker 2: out amazing statements like this has already changed the entire

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Speaker 2: dynamic of the region there. Look, the point is people

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Speaker 2: think that Donald Trump is like a warmonger. They's looking

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Speaker 2: at star wars. The Middle East was the quietest it

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Speaker 2: has been in decades during his presidency because again, our

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Speaker 2: enemies here in America no not to mess with us

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Speaker 2: when Donald Trump is in office. The one thing I

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Speaker 2: will say is that if you're going to talk like this,

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Speaker 2: as Donald Trump has done in truth social you better

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Speaker 2: be prepared to back it up with action. Having said that, though,

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Speaker 2: I think Donald Trump is very clearly willing to do that,

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Speaker 2: as he's demonstrated before there. So our enemies are now

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Speaker 2: on standby. They are watching this with very close eyes there,

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Speaker 2: and that is a very good thing. I said.

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Speaker 3: I remember when he was Wow.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the fourth or fifth presidential candidate

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Speaker 1: who said he was going to move the embassy. He

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Speaker 1: was going to move the American embassy, and he was

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Speaker 1: going to.

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Speaker 3: Acknowledge Israel's capital. And there was a promise that was

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Speaker 3: made previously.

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Speaker 1: Josh, I think Clinton made it, Obama made it, Bush

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Speaker 1: made it.

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Speaker 3: None of them followed through. They were all too terrified.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump followed through despite the hyperbole and the hysteria

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Speaker 1: that we got from the media and experts telling us

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Speaker 1: it was going to elite, lead to bloodshed and relations

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Speaker 1: were going to sour.

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Speaker 3: And what happened, Nothing really happened.

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Speaker 1: They dealt with it because he followed through with a pledge.

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Speaker 1: And I think we're going to see a lot more

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Speaker 1: of that. I want to ask you about Meta CEO

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg. He's met with Trump and their rumors that

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Speaker 1: he wants to cozy up to the administration. He wants

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Speaker 1: to be brought into the fold and be involved in

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Speaker 1: the national reform and renewal. But should this character be trusted, Josh?

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Speaker 1: Meta Instagram, Facebook have been notorious for suppressing, censoring conservatives

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Speaker 1: that continue to do so, and he donates hundreds of

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars of his own money to help fortify

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election.

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Speaker 3: Is he a character.

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Speaker 1: Who has proven himself, who's showing that he has changed

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Speaker 1: his mind about politics? Like Elon Muskaz and RFK and

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Speaker 1: Tulsa Gabbett and some others.

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Speaker 2: You know, I would not trust Mark Zuckerberg personally at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean to put it mildly there, but he's on

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Speaker 2: this current long, extended maya culpa apology tours. It's very odd, actually,

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Speaker 2: I mean this started really over the summer. He put

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Speaker 2: out some statement acknowledging that Facebook was complicit in censoring

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Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden laptop story from The New York Post

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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty, and he said that he apologized

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Speaker 2: for that. So he's been on this extended apology tour

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Speaker 2: for a while now. I can't quite figure out exactly

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Speaker 2: why he is doing this, though, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: I find it very difficult to believe that his actual

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Speaker 2: politics and principles and ideology have changed, rather as probably

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Speaker 2: just a self serving measure when it comes to just

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Speaker 2: trying to keep this company relevant. He probably sees his

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Speaker 2: fellow Silicon Valley titan, Elon Musk, who is now in

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Speaker 2: Mara Lago. He's taken photos with Don Junior and Eric Trump.

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Speaker 2: He's basically, I mean Elon Musk is basically an adopted

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Speaker 2: son of the Trump family at this point. And this

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Speaker 2: is probably a little bit of just envy or jealousy. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: from Mark Zuckberg. You know, from one billionaire to another there.

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Speaker 2: If I had to put on my psychological lens, that's

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Speaker 2: probably what I imagine what was going on here, belok.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, from one Jew to another, from

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Speaker 2: me to Mark Zuckerberg. Mark Zuckerberg actually had his bar

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Speaker 2: mitzvah and the synagogue in my hometown back in New

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Speaker 2: York there, So I would encourage him to spend a

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Speaker 2: little more time doing what we call teshuba, which is

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Speaker 2: which is atonement in Judaism, prior to trying to get

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Speaker 2: in Donald Trump's good graces. I think I think a

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Speaker 2: little more atonement might be in order for your previous mistakes.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, I tell you, I'm with you. I would not

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Speaker 1: trust him as far as I can throw him. And

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Speaker 1: if he actually really has genuinely changed his point of

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Speaker 1: view and waken up to some of the awful activism

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Speaker 1: that he's been party too. Then you would think it

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Speaker 1: would tackle that on his own websites, on his own

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Speaker 1: sites Instagram and faceboo book, which are still routinely censoring

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Speaker 1: anything that's right of left, I mean even centrist of

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Speaker 1: finding themselves getting censored or suppressed.

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Speaker 9: There.

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Speaker 1: Before you go, We've got some good news. I've got

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Speaker 1: conservative commentator Scott Jennings being added to the editorial board

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Speaker 1: of The La Times, a publication that has been left

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Speaker 1: to far left for a long time. Is this going

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Speaker 1: to have any make any meaningful change though, Josh, Or

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Speaker 1: is this just a token conservative who's been added so

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Speaker 1: they can pretend to be balanced.

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Speaker 2: So the La Times, it's you know, it's worth giving

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Speaker 2: some credit or credits do. The La Times was one

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Speaker 2: of the major publications that ultimately refuse to endorse in

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four election, along the Washington Post in USA. Today,

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Speaker 2: those really the big three liberal pepers which refuse to

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Speaker 2: endorse Carmala Harris or Dald Trump in this election. So

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Speaker 2: the fact that they refuse to endorse and now they're

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Speaker 2: bringing Skytt Jennings is definitely a propitious sign for the

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Speaker 2: future there, but ultimately the devil will be in the

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Speaker 2: details there. I want to see what his columns look like.

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Speaker 2: I want to see those voices actually represented on the

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Speaker 2: editorial boards, in house editorials. I actually published one ibed

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Speaker 2: myself at the LA Times about four and a half

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Speaker 2: years ago. Now I haven't bothered to try again. It's

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Speaker 2: been a very long time since that, since that was

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Speaker 2: a hospitable place to publish conservative commentary. So I guess

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Speaker 2: you know, the proof ultimately be here in the pudding.

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Speaker 1: Look, Josh, I differ with you on that point. I

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Speaker 1: don't give them credit for not endorsing Kamala, and same

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Speaker 1: with the Washington Post because they run nothing but pro

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Speaker 1: Kamala anti Trump material twenty four to seven, and then

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Speaker 1: they don't endorse, pretending that that means they're balanced or

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Speaker 1: they're then they're not committed to one side when we

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Speaker 1: all know where their politics and their agenda runs. So

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Speaker 1: we'll be watching and saying if Scott Jennings has an

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Speaker 1: impact at the LA Times.

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Speaker 3: Josh Hamma, thanks for your time tonight. Thank you. Rider

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Speaker 3: still to come.

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Speaker 1: Pressure on Queensland Premier David Chris of Fooley to review

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Speaker 1: the states writing gender laws.

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Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian is up next.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, joining me now as the head of Advocacy

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Speaker 1: at Women's Forum Australia. Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie, Let's begin in Queensland,

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Speaker 1: where there is increasing pressure on Premier David Chrisafooley to

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Speaker 1: reform the states so called gender care laws. Government MP's

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Speaker 1: are set to be eager to pass legislation to protect

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Speaker 1: kids from dangerous and sometimes irreversible gender treatments.

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Speaker 3: What else can you tell me about this?

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Speaker 6: Well, good evening, Rita. Well, we haven't seen anything come

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Speaker 6: on the agenda just yet. I imagine David's been very

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Speaker 6: busy implementing some of his other pre election commitments, including

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Speaker 6: tackling crime and excessive government expenditure. However, I can't fault

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Speaker 6: his ministerial appointments. We now have Fiona Simpson who is

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Speaker 6: the new Minister for Women and unlike her preecessor, she

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Speaker 6: actually knows what a woman is and she's advocated throughout

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Speaker 6: her career for women's sex based rights. And of course

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Speaker 6: the new Minister for Health, Tim Nichols, is also a

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Speaker 6: very good appointment. During the birthdesths and Marriages debate last

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Speaker 6: year in Parliament, he gave a very passionate speech on

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Speaker 6: the harms of socially transitioning children and how that can

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Speaker 6: lead to medical transition and the implications with that, especially

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Speaker 6: the fact that they cannot consent even with support of

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Speaker 6: their parents. The coma bit issues that come with genderice

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Speaker 6: for including autism and other neurodivergencies, suppression anxiety, backgrounds of trauma,

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Speaker 6: and of course the social contagent aspect.

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Speaker 8: So he is well and.

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Speaker 6: Truly across the issue. He's obviously invested time in looking

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Speaker 6: into it, and I have full faith that he would

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Speaker 6: be more than capable to lead reforms. I just hope

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Speaker 6: that we see something on the agenda soon.

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Speaker 3: Well, it would just be good to see a review, Stephanie.

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Speaker 1: It would be good to see a review of these practices,

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Speaker 1: see what the outcomes have been, how many are undergoing

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Speaker 1: these treatments at what ages, and to do this sort

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Speaker 1: of reviews that we've seen elsewhere in the world in

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Speaker 1: the UK, Scandinavia, many parts of the US. Australia is

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Speaker 1: a bit of an outlier right now. We're just blindly

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Speaker 1: following this model without really any care of the consequences

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Speaker 1: for the confused kids or undergoing these treatments.

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Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely, we are behind the rest of the world.

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Speaker 6: Even America now is making moves in the right direction,

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Speaker 6: and New Zealand just a couple of weeks ago announced

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Speaker 6: one of their health regulatory bodies has urged caution on

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Speaker 6: using puberty blockers to treat children, and we are waiting

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Speaker 6: for further announcements that are expected to come from the

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Speaker 6: Health minister over there. So I think a review is

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Speaker 6: certainly a first step, but I would be calling for

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Speaker 6: a halt on these medical treatments that kids are receiving

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Speaker 6: surgeries at a very young age. In Queensland, we know

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Speaker 6: that they're going on puberty blockers before they're even twelve

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Speaker 6: or thirteen, So I would be halting treatments and then

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Speaker 6: organizing a review most certainly.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you I think we're going to see

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Speaker 1: lawsuits in the future, class action lawsuits, and I think

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Speaker 1: they'll be very much deserved because I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of confused kids have been prescribed treatments that are going

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Speaker 1: to leave them with lifelong medical consequences. Moving on to

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Speaker 1: how captured segments of the media are by radical gender theory.

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Speaker 1: This passage out of The New York Times was incredible.

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Speaker 1: They somehow managed to make women a subcategory.

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Speaker 3: In their own sex.

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Speaker 1: In a recent piece, they referred to women as non

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Speaker 1: transgender women, and this has.

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Speaker 3: Caused all sorts of backlash.

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Speaker 1: Even leftists like Martine and Navrattel over the Tennis Great

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Speaker 1: spoke out against ishes said, New York Times, you stink.

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Speaker 1: We are women, not non transgender women, just women will

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Speaker 1: do in the future.

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Speaker 3: What's your reaction to this?

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Speaker 1: Every now and then something comes along and you think,

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Speaker 1: surely not. That has to be parody, it has to

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Speaker 1: be satire, and it ends up being real.

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Speaker 6: I know, it's ridiculous. I think people are realizing more

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Speaker 6: and more just how ideologically captured these outlets are. Over

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Speaker 6: in America, it's the New York Times. Here it's the ABC,

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Speaker 6: And I think with the election of Trump and the

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Speaker 6: whole campaign on the issue, more and more women are

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Speaker 6: able to speak out and actually voice their opinions on it,

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Speaker 6: which is increasing, which is very positive. But there are

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Speaker 6: a number of issues with that piece. I mean, they

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Speaker 6: were still disputing the science and the physiological differences between

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Speaker 6: men and women in sport.

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Speaker 3: My five year old knows the difference.

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Speaker 6: In the playground quite frankly, and so I think that

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Speaker 6: these publications are obviously ideologically captured. No one is going

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Speaker 6: to take them seriously until they start reporting on these

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Speaker 6: things properly.

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Speaker 1: And just on the subject matter of that New York

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Speaker 1: Times piece, the volleyball scandal we've spoken about previously on

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Speaker 1: this program, it looks like the transgender player San Jose States,

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Speaker 1: Blair Fleming, has played his final college volleyball game. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel like the sports administrators learned anything during this saga,

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Speaker 1: do you.

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Speaker 6: Know, reader, I don't think they have, and they should

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Speaker 6: probably be sacked the litigation. There's an impending litigation against

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Speaker 6: them that started before the end of this season. It

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Speaker 6: didn't make them think twice or change direction. They had

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Speaker 6: a whole election campaign run on this issue. In fact,

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Speaker 6: it was an injury within the sporting team that put

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Speaker 6: it on the Republican agenda, and they haven't learned their lesson.

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Speaker 6: I think that there are some people who are so invested,

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Speaker 6: who are so politically invested in this, they are beyond

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Speaker 6: learning lessons. Perhaps a slap in the face in court

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Speaker 6: might do it. Unlikely, but still I think for the

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Speaker 6: integrity of the sport, they all need to be dismissed

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Speaker 6: in a new administration. Put in.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think one hundred percent right there.

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Speaker 1: They are putting women at risk, they're putting athletes at risk,

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Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be up to the individual athletes to

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Speaker 1: take a stand to boycott games. But it's come to

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Speaker 1: that because the administrators have proved themselves to be utterly

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Speaker 1: gutlers or ideological. Stephanie Bastian, thanks so much for your

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Speaker 1: time this evening, and that's it from me.

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Speaker 3: Up next is Newsnight.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow with Douglas Murray