1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the fitting in with her with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: International Women's Day to day, we celebrate the social, cultural, 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: political achievements. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 3: Of women all around the world. 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: And we thought today what a special day because we 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: have been waiting for this album for so long. And 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Ricky Lee on my own available to stream and download 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: today and she joins us in the studio, Welcome to 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: the studio. 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 4: Was being planned to be released on International Women's Day? 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 4: Or was it just very good time? 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: It was good timing. I wish that I was that 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: smart that I planned it that way, but I didn't 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: realize until only a few weeks ago. 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 4: You got a lot going on, and goodness, something just 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 4: fell into place. 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not looking ahead at the calendar to find 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: special days. 19 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: To release albums. 20 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 5: We can confirm already gone to number one on iTunes. Congratulations, 21 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 5: thank you so much, number one. I don't even know 22 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 5: how to what time did you wake up? 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I really slept. I went to bed 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: at like midnight, and I didn't. I think I slept 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: from maybe an hour and a half and then I 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: woke up, you know, to just pop off to the 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: loo for a second, and then I had to check 28 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: my phone and then I shouldn't have done that because 29 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: then I saw that it was number one, and then 30 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't go back to sleep after that. 31 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: We're on It's time for sixty second starts Hate Richie. 32 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: So still standing. 33 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,279 Speaker 2: Now, Ricky Lee was keen to play. I'm still standing. 34 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: She's going up against Kate Richie today. But Ricky, you 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: are representing Aaron in Macquarie Park. 36 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 3: You're loving Ricky's new song eron. I am at such 37 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 3: a bup. 38 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: Oh thank you, hi aerono morning. 39 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 4: Okay, why are you having us against each other's National 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: Women's Day? 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're probably two of the most competitive women. 42 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: What you work? 43 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 5: This was great? The good news is to Aaron straight 44 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 5: into the running first class in fifty k. 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: Is it we two hundred bucks up for grabs? He yeah, 46 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: we'll go. 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: We'll go with two hundred bucks. All right, Ricky, you're 48 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: our guests, so you're going first. Get one wrong, power 49 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: goes over to Kate. Whoever has the power. 50 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: At the end of sixty seconds is the winner. 51 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 4: Okay, please don't because I know quietly. 52 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: Because I don't really know how this game works. 53 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 5: You'll know the answer to the second question. 54 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Ricky Lee, your sixty second starts now. What 55 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: color is a classic can of V Energy drink Green? Yes, Bollinger, 56 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: Verve and Mum are all brands of what Correct? What 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: was Beyonce's latest album Tied? 58 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 5: Yes? 59 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: Which if one driver is currently ranked number one? 60 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 5: Yes? 61 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: Which Ossie Prime Minister went missing after he went for 62 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: a swim? 63 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 5: Too long? 64 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 3: Too long? Hold? Okay? 65 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: Who won in last night's match between the Swan's and 66 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: the Demons? 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: The Demons? 68 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: No Swans? Ricky laid back to you? Back to you? 69 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: What? 70 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: Card Company announced they are introducing a ute. 71 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: Kate Kate. Who are the hosts of Australian Idol? The 72 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: host or the people from the hosts? Two hosts? And 73 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 3: too long? 74 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: Which famous artist cut off part of his own ear? 75 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 3: Which artist doesn't matter? 76 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 5: Regular has got it? 77 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: We needed to got tweeting? Of course, that's a. 78 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: Compliment to you, Ricky. 79 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: Poor tweet If you're listening, I love God, Sorry Scott's 80 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: and you've won turn but. 81 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: So much. 82 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: Goot tweety it's the one question I'm obsessed with. 83 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 5: Formula one say, Ricky Lee is in the studio celebrating 84 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 5: the number one album. Guys, you're a little. What are 85 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 5: you laughing at, Lizzie, I said, celebrating? What does everyone 86 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: keep thinking I'm saying salibrating? 87 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: You say, do you say it with an A? You 88 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: say it with an A? 89 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Celebrating, celebrated, celebrating. 90 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 3: It's celebrating, celebrates with an E. It's not the worst 91 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: thing you do. 92 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: When you sell a car, do you sell it or 93 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: do you sell it? 94 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 5: You sell it? I want to sell a car. Can 95 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 5: we can go about your music? 96 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: We can. 97 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the because I was Made 98 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: for Loving is an amazing song. But to get clearance 99 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: on that from a huge band like Kiss. That song 100 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: was released in nineteen seventy nine and was massive for them, 101 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: sold millions of copies. 102 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: So how do you approach a band like Kiss to 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: get that over to the line Ricky. 104 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: Lee, Well, we once we had written the song, we 105 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: had to get clearan for it. So the publishers go 106 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: and do that for you, the other people that kind 107 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: of look after you as a songwriter, and they said, yeah, 108 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: we love it, but we want all of the publishing. 109 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: So that was a fun, fun conversation. But really it 110 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest songs and most iconic songs 111 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 1: and most recognizable songs in the history of the world, 112 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: So of course they're going to want it. I totally 113 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: understand that. 114 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: But you've written the song, though you've written them the heart. 115 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: It's just like you want to use some of the 116 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: biggest song in the world, you're going to have to 117 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: give us all of the publishing, even though it's we've 118 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: only used two lines of the chorus of the kiss 119 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: song and we've written a whole song around it. We 120 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: actually wrote the song first and then the chorus came 121 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: after that. 122 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: You have you heard of musicians or artists who have 123 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: gone and written songs like this Ricky Lee, but haven't 124 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: got clearance from the artists, because that does. 125 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: Happen as well sometimes because sometimes they want a big fee, 126 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: or sometimes people don't want to give away one hundred 127 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: percent of the publishing. Yes, but in this case, it 128 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: was too good and it was so too perfect, and 129 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: it worked so well, and I once we had we 130 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: didn't intend to write it, but once we stumbled across 131 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: the song when we're writing the chorus, it just worked 132 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: too perfectly and it fits so well, and I couldn't 133 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: hear the song in any other way, and we just 134 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: had to have it, and luckily the other guys I 135 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: wrote the song with were on the same page as me, 136 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: and well, like, yet, let's. 137 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: Do tell us about the rest of the album then, 138 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: I mean, don't go through each track of your talent 139 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: we got I kind of you know, there's usually a 140 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: vibe behind it or feeling, or I mean, it's ten 141 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: years of work. 142 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: I would image ten years of me trying to fight 143 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: record labels to kind of get me to be able 144 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: to do what I want to do. And I ended 145 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: up in twenty nineteen parting ways with my old record label, 146 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: and since then I've been just focusing all of my 147 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: energy on making this album. And it's a culmination of 148 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: so many things. This album is very raw, and it 149 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: is very personal, but it's also really fun and one 150 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: of the things I love doing as a songwriter is 151 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: masking dark and deep and heavy feelings with really uplifting 152 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: sounding production. And I you know, people might think some 153 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: of the songs will throw your hands up in the 154 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: air and party kind of songs, but they're really not 155 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: when you listen to the lyrics. And in the last 156 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: couple of years when I've been working, I've been coming 157 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: into hit into and over, and I've been filming Australian 158 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Idol and AGT and all of those things. And when 159 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: I go into the studio, that's my time to just 160 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: be vulnerable and be raw, and I don't have to 161 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: pretend like everything's okay and be happy all the time, 162 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: and I can kind of sink into those vulnerable, real personal, heavy, 163 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: deep dark feelings and moments and explore, you know, writing 164 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: songs about some things that are really difficult in my life. 165 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: And that's what I've been able to do with this album. 166 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: And I'm just so proud it's out and people are 167 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: loving it amazing. 168 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: Song two on the album Point of No Return, did 169 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: you write that when you went into the studio with 170 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: Tim Blackwell and Joel Cries. 171 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: It was like a black hole? 172 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 5: Never How good is that? Or congratulations? 173 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much of it? 174 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 5: Today is going to be an exciting day. 175 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: I I don't I don't know what to do or 176 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: how to feel. 177 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: We need so much knowing I need a good night's 178 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: sleep because you're working tomorrow. 179 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: I am, I am, I'm working tomorrow and the next 180 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: day and the next day and the next day. But 181 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, next week, I can celebrate and relax 182 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. 183 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: Tommy wanted to do the champagne showers. Wanted to spray 184 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 5: champagne all over the studio. 185 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: Not my new jumpsuit. 186 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 5: The new jumpsuit. You guys are back at four, Ricky Lee, 187 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 5: thank you so much. 188 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: Thank you guys. 189 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 5: It Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast walk great shows 190 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 5: like this. 191 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: Download the Nova Player by the App Store or Google Playing.