Speaker 1: High Scrollers is produced on gadigul Land.
Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this country,
Speaker 2: an elder's past and present.
Speaker 1: Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. I'm Britney Sawn and.
Speaker 2: I'm all right, hey, and this is High Scrollers, the
Speaker 2: podcast version of your favorite group Chat.
Speaker 3: We've been sharing our lives online for over ten years,
Speaker 3: so who better to catch you up on everything that's
Speaker 3: going viral?
Speaker 2: Can We talk a lot about ourselves as well, but
Speaker 2: today we are sharing some of the most disgusting confessions
Speaker 2: that Britney has found on this road Instagram page.
Speaker 1: Bigger warning, like straight up trigger warning.
Speaker 2: When we get we'll say, I think that section if
Speaker 2: you have any kids in the car not appropriate to them?
Speaker 2: And what else do we talk about? Hey? Chat GPT
Speaker 2: has taken influences on a brand trip and we share
Speaker 2: our thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: Plus we comment on parenting even though we are not parents.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, it's one of those episodes where we
Speaker 2: have we have a lot of opinions. Tiffanny is back
Speaker 2: in the Oh. Actually, I think we only mentioned Tiffanny
Speaker 2: for the first time today because previously you were Tiffany anyway.
Speaker 1: My older ego has now changed to Tiffanny.
Speaker 2: Oh anyway, the energy through the roof has always told
Speaker 2: so deal me indult, let's go.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Matthew, Good morning Brittany. No, what's it's Tiffany.
Speaker 2: Tiffany.
Speaker 3: Tiffany's back, but we're changing it. It's not Tiffany, It's
Speaker 3: tiff Fanny.
Speaker 2: Tiffanny. Fanny is in the house and I'm wearing my
Speaker 2: beautiful new micknos jump before you listen to the episode
Speaker 2: of Close Friends last week, which I'm sure you did.
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone skips that. You know, with most podcasts,
Speaker 2: like you have a main episode, then you have a
Speaker 2: bonus episode that maybe not as many I remember when
Speaker 2: we did Trash. Yeah, not as many people would listen
Speaker 2: to the bonus episode as the main episode. Okay, Jay,
Speaker 2: you let us know, do we have consistent listens for
Speaker 2: or does some people not even bother with Close Friends?
Speaker 4: Close Friends, it's a little bit lower, but like they're
Speaker 4: all pretty high, of course, a little bit lower close case.
Speaker 2: There you go, I'm listening. What the hell? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think if you didn't listen to Friday's episode, it's one
Speaker 2: you definitely should listen to Wait. Okay, shit, Tiffany's what's happening? Tiffanny.
Speaker 3: I don't know why this is just popping into my brain,
Speaker 3: but do you want to know something funny that I'm
Speaker 3: going to be like you were after America? You know how,
Speaker 3: for like three months after America you kept talking about it.
Speaker 1: That's going to be me. But with Europe, it's not
Speaker 1: even funny. You had to be there. But one night
Speaker 1: we were all like on the mini bus thing, because
Speaker 1: when we would get off the boat to go to
Speaker 1: a ven you would get like a big Maxi taxi.
Speaker 1: And one we were coming back from dinner and we
Speaker 1: remembered that guy that made the video about bits of
Speaker 1: glass muffin.
Speaker 2: I got no idea, what, oh.
Speaker 3: Never mind. Then you know the guy that did shoes, Yeah, shoes.
Speaker 3: Do you know remember when they he did one and
Speaker 3: it was about all the different flavored muffins.
Speaker 1: No, oh, never mind.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I thought I would just say that in case
Speaker 3: it triggers in anyone's brain that video used to give
Speaker 3: me life when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought, seeing as you love games on high
Speaker 2: Schollers And I haven't approved this with gay J but
Speaker 2: I think gay j is going to love this because
Speaker 2: it's going to lead to a lot of engagement for
Speaker 2: this podcast.
Speaker 1: Engagement.
Speaker 2: Well, your your euro summer trip has inspired me to
Speaker 2: also go on a trip somewhere, but I'm not going
Speaker 2: to tell you where. Okay, we are going to play
Speaker 2: a little game here at High Scrollers and there are
Speaker 2: a few rules, and all the scrollers get to be
Speaker 2: involved in this as well. Okay, so do you want
Speaker 2: to know the rules?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: What's the game called?
Speaker 2: Oh? Fuck off?
Speaker 4: That's your I was going to make a little sting
Speaker 4: and everything for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's play the game. Then I'll tell you
Speaker 3: the name.
Speaker 2: And then we'll find out the name. Play the game
Speaker 2: to get the name. So the rules are each week
Speaker 2: on this podcast, I will give one clue as to
Speaker 2: where I'm going.
Speaker 1: So we're not even going to figure it out today
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I'm going to give you three all right.
Speaker 1: But how many weeks is it going to take us
Speaker 1: to play this game? Well to you and all the
Speaker 1: scrolls too impatient for that.
Speaker 2: So all the scrollers Japan can help her in the
Speaker 2: group chat, the Scrollers group chat. You can all help
Speaker 2: Brittany in there. Each week after the episode goes live,
Speaker 2: we'll comment where do you think Matt's going? And you
Speaker 2: can all help guess, and each week you also get
Speaker 2: to ask me one yes or no question okay, to
Speaker 2: help you figure out where I'm going. If you get
Speaker 2: it today, the game's ruined and we don't need a sting.
Speaker 2: But I don't think you will because I have started
Speaker 2: vague and as we go on, they will get more
Speaker 2: and more obvious as to where I'm going. But I
Speaker 2: just thought, why not make a fun little game that
Speaker 2: everyone can get involved see it. If that's what you
Speaker 2: want this week's yes or no question to be, then
Speaker 2: well I just want.
Speaker 1: To know because we've got a lot of things coming
Speaker 1: up over the next few months between your birthday, Hillary.
Speaker 3: Duff, your live show, recording this podcast, Christmas fate.
Speaker 1: I'm not how you're gonna have time to go on
Speaker 1: a holiday.
Speaker 2: Well, we will get to you being able to ask
Speaker 2: a question at some point. Would you like this week's
Speaker 2: three clues? And then from this from next week onwards,
Speaker 2: it's one clue a week.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm ready to do it.
Speaker 2: At the start of every episode, Okay, yes, where Mask going?
Speaker 2: So this week's clues for you of where I'm going
Speaker 2: is it's somewhere I haven't been before. That's clue number one.
Speaker 2: Number two is I'm not looking forward to the food situation.
Speaker 2: It's clean number two and clean number three is I
Speaker 2: don't have to buy anything new to go on this trip.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you can't be Japan because Japan has awesome food.
Speaker 2: You get one yes or no question.
Speaker 1: Gay Jay. You got to come up with it.
Speaker 2: Then you get one guess.
Speaker 3: Not excited about the food situation. You hate seafood, so
Speaker 3: it might be somewhere that has a lot of seafood.
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to give anything away.
Speaker 3: You don't have to buy anything new to go there, obviously,
Speaker 3: because it could be somewhere cold, because you've been on
Speaker 3: a cold holiday before. Therefore you would already have all
Speaker 3: the cold wintry clothes. You already own heaps of summary clothes,
Speaker 3: so you wouldn't need to buy that to go there.
Speaker 1: Now I'm starting a question, is it in Australia or
Speaker 1: is it not?
Speaker 3: I'm going to say no, because why would you be
Speaker 3: not happy about the food. This is the whole episode
Speaker 3: of me asking myself questions and talking to myself, gay Jay,
Speaker 3: is anything coming to your mind? I know you're on medication,
Speaker 3: so you don't really have much to say this. Can
Speaker 3: I just say?
Speaker 1: Can I say that on the post?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, for everyone listening. I have at
Speaker 4: HD and I have recently started medication. I'm very chill today.
Speaker 3: He's very like still, it's kind of yeah, throwing me
Speaker 3: off a little bit. Still, Like usually you're very like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, more animated. Yeah, and now you're just
Speaker 3: like a statue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. It's weird, but we're here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're vibing. Is anything coming to mind? Before we
Speaker 3: ask Matt a question?
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think you should ask. Yeah, not
Speaker 4: that this is me asking if the weather is warm
Speaker 4: or cob where he's going, because that will eliminate a
Speaker 4: lot of areas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so is the place.
Speaker 4: That you don't that's a dumb thing because like the
Speaker 4: clignment's changed.
Speaker 2: Is well?
Speaker 4: Okay, So I think asking for going this year because
Speaker 4: then we can determine next time weather and climate.
Speaker 2: Wait.
Speaker 3: But also he said he's not looking forward to the
Speaker 3: food and he hates spice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like fuck, technically I've spiced up my life
Speaker 2: and I'm okay. With spice.
Speaker 3: Now you're trying to throw us off. It's somewhere that
Speaker 3: has spicy food?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: I want to say, is he's going?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 2: One guess per week as to where, and you only
Speaker 2: get one yes or no question.
Speaker 4: I think we need to know if he's going this
Speaker 4: year because winter is finished here and in the southern hemisphere, so.
Speaker 2: But we know that.
Speaker 4: Doesn't work either.
Speaker 2: Why am I so dumb right now?
Speaker 1: Because you're on.
Speaker 4: I don't have a million thoughts going.
Speaker 3: I don't think we need to ask if he's going
Speaker 3: this year because that's not going to give us any
Speaker 3: kind of information. I think we just need to straight
Speaker 3: up guess somewhere we I'm not forfeiting yes or no.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say is it this place? And you're
Speaker 3: saying yes or no?
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then that eliminates your question of the week
Speaker 2: because you still get the guests anyway.
Speaker 1: Are you scared I'm gonna get it right?
Speaker 2: No? But I mean go for it.
Speaker 3: You you guess no, okay, So I can ask you
Speaker 3: a yes or no question, and then I can guess
Speaker 3: and you will say yes or no.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yes or no question to determine.
Speaker 3: Okay, Wait, gay Jay's message me, sorry, we're talking behind
Speaker 3: your back?
Speaker 2: Is excited?
Speaker 3: Don't what I was just yes, Okay, let's ask a
Speaker 3: question before I asked that. I already said that before,
Speaker 3: and I don't think either of you heard me. Okay,
Speaker 3: we need to ask a question though, before we guess that.
Speaker 3: I don't know what question to ask. Okay, should we
Speaker 3: just ask him like?
Speaker 1: Is he like?
Speaker 3: Obviously he's going with sky, but that doesn't matter anyway
Speaker 3: to us finding out.
Speaker 1: I think I just want to ask, is it this year?
Speaker 1: Just so I can know? Okay, is it this year?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay? Is it India?
Speaker 2: India is incorrect?
Speaker 4: Damn it.
Speaker 2: That's the game, done and dusted, No more questions. That's it.
Speaker 2: We'll pick this conversation back up next week. Yes, when
Speaker 2: ma go.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, anyway, that's enough of that. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I love this game. I hate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be fun when you
Speaker 2: can't ask that question anymore?
Speaker 1: Question like I need to know for my schedule.
Speaker 2: Actually, I need to know your.
Speaker 1: Birthday before your birthday.
Speaker 2: No more questions this week.
Speaker 3: But we need to know so we can plan doing
Speaker 3: this podcast. You know what, maybe it's at Christmas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: It is at Christmas, because he would have to tell
Speaker 4: me because I need.
Speaker 1: Christmas. I know that for sure.
Speaker 3: You's gone away for Christmas in New Year's that's weird
Speaker 3: because I'm going away too then to the same.
Speaker 1: Place you are.
Speaker 2: She's just saying whatever it is she's going to come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm also going there.
Speaker 2: I want to respond to these things that you're saying,
Speaker 2: and I'm holding my tongue because I don't want to
Speaker 2: give anything away. So so scrollers will be putting in
Speaker 2: the chat. And this is gay Jay's job each week,
Speaker 2: by the way, because I'll forget put in the chat
Speaker 2: and say does anyone have any clue where Matt is going?
Speaker 2: And yes, you can figure that out anyway. That's a
Speaker 2: bit of fun, isn't it. On Friday, we were talking
Speaker 2: a little bit and we touched on some brand trips
Speaker 2: that you'd been on to Coachella and whatnot. When we
Speaker 2: were talking about the private jet of it all, and
Speaker 2: I wanted to see because I know you've been away
Speaker 2: and so you may not have caught this because it
Speaker 2: kind of went down while you were while you were away,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you're across this, but I
Speaker 2: wanted to keep you across it because I find it
Speaker 2: very very interesting. Did you see anything about the chat
Speaker 2: GPT brand trip?
Speaker 3: I saw like the tiniest bit of it, and all
Speaker 3: I saw was people saying, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you see anything about this? Gay jay?
Speaker 4: I know, I've never heard of this before.
Speaker 2: My goodness, So chat GPT, open Ai my mortal enemy. Yes,
Speaker 2: owned by open Ai. Open Ai took around thirty influences
Speaker 2: to this summer camp. It was held at a farm
Speaker 2: in New York. And I don't know any of the
Speaker 2: influencers because they're all kinds of tech and like industry
Speaker 2: based influencers. They all were kind of micro influencers only
Speaker 2: had like I think all of them had under fifty
Speaker 2: k followers across platforms, and I did recognize any of
Speaker 2: their names. But this is not a traditional trip and
Speaker 2: with tart with your like big beauty and lifestyle influencers,
Speaker 2: this was like a smaller kind of influencer creator summer
Speaker 2: camp that they hosted, right, and they went to this
Speaker 2: kind of farm situation just outside New York. Now, if
Speaker 2: chatch GPT asked you to go on a brand trip,
Speaker 2: what would your reaction be to that email No. One hundred.
Speaker 2: I actually was so confused as to why. It reminds
Speaker 2: me of the she and brand trip. Remember the Sheen brand.
Speaker 1: That's when they took them to the fact.
Speaker 2: They took the influencers and they were bigger influencers, lifestyle, fashion,
Speaker 2: beauty influencers that you know, we know the names of.
Speaker 2: They took them to the factory to be like, look
Speaker 2: at how our company works, et cetera. And that was
Speaker 2: really bizarre and that got a lot of backlash at
Speaker 2: the time as well. Yes, and so seeing chat chapt,
Speaker 2: I went, this is bizarre now. The activities on the
Speaker 2: brand trip, obviously, they included the accommodation they got like
Speaker 2: branded chat GBT and open Ai merch. They did find
Speaker 2: dining in the form of like farm to table because
Speaker 2: they were like on this kind of farm summer camp thing,
Speaker 2: so it was like here's the cow, let's now eat
Speaker 2: the cow. Whatever, random, yeah, wellness activities, and also a
Speaker 2: bee keeping excursion where they went and saw.
Speaker 1: What all this got to do with chat gipt.
Speaker 2: The whole reason I wanted to bring this up because again,
Speaker 2: we know you love talking business, and my thoughts on
Speaker 2: this whole thing is chat GBT, notoriously known for destroying
Speaker 2: the environment. Why the hell who was in the boardroom
Speaker 2: that sat down and said, let's take influences to a
Speaker 2: farm to table summer camp. Give them bee keeping, which
Speaker 2: we all know about bees, Like if bees die, we die, right,
Speaker 2: we all know that, and like on allegedly a aged
Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things like if the world
Speaker 2: keeps getting destroyed, bees will die, we will die. Right.
Speaker 1: That's like the whole ess is crazy, right.
Speaker 2: So my thing is chat GPT allegedly allegedly destroying the environment,
Speaker 2: takes influences on a brand trip in the environment and
Speaker 2: shows them an ecosystem that is crucial to our survival.
Speaker 3: But was this all in a bid to maybe show
Speaker 3: that potentially they're not ruining the environment? Like what was
Speaker 3: the I'm wondering what is the thought process behind this?
Speaker 2: So the point of the trip was to showcase the
Speaker 2: new tools that open AI are releasing, and from my
Speaker 2: limited research that I've done on this, and of course
Speaker 2: everyone who's gone on the trip now doesn't want to
Speaker 2: say anything about it, so it's very hard to actually
Speaker 2: get details on what happened. My thoughts are that they
Speaker 2: probably were like, oh, our new AI tools could probably
Speaker 2: assist the bee keeper in doing its job with the bees,
Speaker 2: whereas everyone else's argument is, well, we wouldn't need to
Speaker 2: save the bees if chutch Ebt wasn't doing what it
Speaker 2: was doing anyway in the first place, right, And so
Speaker 2: they weren't paid to attend, and for a lot of
Speaker 2: them that because they were so niche. It was their
Speaker 2: first ever brand trip. So I'm not even sure whether they.
Speaker 3: Signed the invitation because like, thinking back to when I
Speaker 3: got invited to even just like not on the big
Speaker 3: trips that I went on, but thinking back to like
Speaker 3: early influencer days and I got invited to like a
Speaker 3: PR showing in Sydney or whatever, I just remember being
Speaker 3: so excited at the to be invited somewhere.
Speaker 2: And let's be real, like, I think it's safe to
Speaker 2: say when you went to Las Vegas for the new
Speaker 2: benefit brow pencil, you didn't give a shit about the
Speaker 2: brow pencil. You were like, I'm going to Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And we didn't even know what was getting revealed to us.
Speaker 2: I mean the oh, okay, well, the brow pencil is
Speaker 2: still fabulous, and I love the brow pants, Like all
Speaker 2: my brow products are pretty much benefit anyway, not saying
Speaker 2: there's anything I say, product.
Speaker 3: Buck an oath because so these people probably like, funk,
Speaker 3: yeah we're going to these fu.
Speaker 2: Free holiday free whatever. Yeah. Yeah, but it's been really
Speaker 2: interesting because yeah, I don't know what the angle was,
Speaker 2: but even if the angle was, look how AI helps
Speaker 2: the environment. I think that the social conversation around AI
Speaker 2: being bad for the environment, no matter what they could
Speaker 2: have done, would have helped the public opinion.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, Matt. Just last week on.
Speaker 3: My Big Business main episode, I did a whole episode
Speaker 3: about AI because we're seeing a lot of brands using
Speaker 3: AI models, like on their website. I'm getting lots of
Speaker 3: it like popping up in my ads and stuff. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've already said this on the pod,
Speaker 3: but like when I.
Speaker 1: Was in Adelaide Airport Adam and Sushi part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then like when I was in Adelaide Airport,
Speaker 3: I saw a store and they had like a big
Speaker 3: TV screen, you know, out of the where they play all
Speaker 3: their images, and it was an image of an AI model,
Speaker 3: and it like stopped me in my tracks and.
Speaker 1: I went a j look at that because it just.
Speaker 3: Was mind blowing to me that brands are putting AI
Speaker 3: models out the front of their shop like to lure
Speaker 3: people in.
Speaker 1: And so I did an episode talking.
Speaker 3: About it and just talking about both sides of AI
Speaker 3: imagery and brands using it, because I, as a business owner,
Speaker 3: like see it from both sides. Like one side is
Speaker 3: it's so expensive to shoot with a model. It might
Speaker 3: cost five thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars just for one
Speaker 3: day of taking photos. When business owners now I have
Speaker 3: this tool of AI to be able to jump on
Speaker 3: chat Chepy team and be like, hey, generate me an
Speaker 3: image of this model in these pair of downtown pants. Boom,
Speaker 3: there's your photo, and they see it as a cost
Speaker 3: saving thing. But then at what cost does that come
Speaker 3: when there's so much distrust with AI and your customers,
Speaker 3: like you lose everything and all your credibility basically. But
Speaker 3: one thing that I touched on in that episode that
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about is I know that
Speaker 3: AI is already like being used far more than we
Speaker 3: could ever probably imagine in the medical field and surgeries
Speaker 3: and diseases, and apparently like doctors, surgeon, scientists, researchers. Medical
Speaker 3: researchers are utilizing AI to help them with potentially curing diseases,
Speaker 3: creating medicines, all that kind of stuff. And I kind
Speaker 3: of feel like, as much as we're like anti AI
Speaker 3: and don't want it to take over the world, I
Speaker 3: think it's terrible that people are being made redundant from
Speaker 3: their jobs because AI is taken over and all that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. How do you feel if AI one
Speaker 3: day can help further than what a human brain and
Speaker 3: a team can when it comes to like curing diseases
Speaker 3: and helping with better vaccinations and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Because in that instance, I'm kind of like, well, if
Speaker 3: they can use it in that way, then that's a
Speaker 3: good thing, surely.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. But the two AIS that we're talking
Speaker 2: about are completely different. Yeah, So the AIS that the
Speaker 2: doctors are using to try and cure cancer, that's different
Speaker 2: to the generative AI that people are My boyfriend cheating
Speaker 2: on me? What should I tell him?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like, they're actually doctors
Speaker 2: aren't using chat GPT to cure cancer.
Speaker 3: Wait, but I have heard people say that they've seen
Speaker 3: their doctor using chat GPT.
Speaker 2: You ask it questions, yeah, which is diabolical. But and
Speaker 2: that also leans into patient confidentiality because obviously anything you
Speaker 2: put into chat GPT, you release that information to open
Speaker 2: AI et cetera by their terms of service by using it,
Speaker 2: like any information you put about yourself in there, will
Speaker 2: know and who knows where that's going or who they're
Speaker 2: selling that to or anything like that. So there's a
Speaker 2: further conversation to be had there about patient confidentiality when
Speaker 2: it comes to doctors using chat GPT, and I think
Speaker 2: that's wild. But I am not against AI as a whole.
Speaker 2: And obviously I hope that AI will help cure cancer
Speaker 2: one day things cross that would be incredible, But that's
Speaker 2: not the AI that we are because AI is just
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, whereas the generative AI, which is the hey
Speaker 2: make me a flyer for my cafe, which would take
Speaker 2: you five minutes in canvas. These days, it's so easy.
Speaker 2: And of course, as we spoke about on the podcast before,
Speaker 2: I have used Siri, Siri is AI, like Siri is
Speaker 2: a form of AI.
Speaker 3: In my the podcast that I did last week on
Speaker 3: Big Business, in the comments of the real that I posted,
Speaker 3: people were commenting, I haven't seen this myself, but they
Speaker 3: were saying that they've been like going into restaurants and
Speaker 3: seeing AI images in people's menus of the food artworks
Speaker 3: on the wall of like spaghetti and it's AI And
Speaker 3: I'm just like what a business owner is thinking by
Speaker 3: doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's especially upsetting just in creative fields,
Speaker 2: like for example, drag Race. There is a huge franchise,
Speaker 2: RuPaul's Drag Race, very worldwide, and the new season of
Speaker 2: Drag Race Down Under Versus the World is on and
Speaker 2: they have the hall of fame of past winners from
Speaker 2: the down Under Seat and also the host, Michelle Visage.
Speaker 2: They just have like pictures of them up in the workroom,
Speaker 2: which is like their big brother house sort of situation
Speaker 2: that they're all in. And this has been a thing
Speaker 2: throughout the whole franchise, Like inside this workroom have been
Speaker 2: pictures of RuPaul, like photographs that have been taken and
Speaker 2: in this recent season they're all AI generated And they
Speaker 2: had a recent Kylie Minogue episode where they paid tribute
Speaker 2: to Kylie Minogue with they had songs. That's often a
Speaker 2: challenge because it's like America's next top model for drag queens.
Speaker 2: Let's say, and so they have this girl group challenge
Speaker 2: where they all have to sing and dance to this
Speaker 2: song and write lyrics to their own song. And the
Speaker 2: girl group challenge is always a great challenge, like it's
Speaker 2: such a fun challenge, and the songs get released on
Speaker 2: streaming services and all the rest of that. And it
Speaker 2: was so clear that the songs they had used were
Speaker 2: AI generated because they were one so terrible, and two
Speaker 2: they weren't actually credited in the credits of the show,
Speaker 2: which I saw some TikTokers talking about, is the fact
Speaker 2: that it was clearly AI because usually they credit all
Speaker 2: of the artists, and there might be twelve artists that
Speaker 2: work on these songs. And then there were no credits,
Speaker 2: which obviously isn't allowed. So if there's no credits, it's
Speaker 2: safe to say allegedly, allegedly it was AI and these
Speaker 2: other images in the workroom, I'm going to say allegedly AI.
Speaker 2: But in my opinion that like.
Speaker 3: If something is like if there is a song that
Speaker 3: is made with AI, the same way if you do
Speaker 3: a paid partnership or if I do a paid partnership,
Speaker 3: we have to disclose. Surely, if it's an AI song,
Speaker 3: it should be like part of.
Speaker 1: It for them to disclose like this is AI.
Speaker 2: I agree, but I don't think we're our laws have
Speaker 2: caught up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think as time goes on, we will
Speaker 3: see more regulations around that. I hope so, because same
Speaker 3: for like if a brand, if I generated an image
Speaker 3: of a model in our downtown pants and I posted that,
Speaker 3: surely it would be I would feel like it's my
Speaker 3: obligation to write, this is an AI model. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: maybe the laws aren't there yet because it's still like
Speaker 3: quite new.
Speaker 2: I think so. But my point was that I think
Speaker 2: that's what's the most upsetting. I mean a lot of
Speaker 2: it is upsetting to me, but that's the most upsetting
Speaker 2: because RuPaul's drag Race, for example, is built on art
Speaker 2: and artists exactly and employs so many queer people in
Speaker 2: an industry that is underrepresented and underpaid. And now you
Speaker 2: want to get rid of twelve people on a song
Speaker 2: fron to AI to cut costs. You want to take
Speaker 2: away photographers and painters or whatever for AI images, even
Speaker 2: like in one of the recent seasons, they usually there's
Speaker 2: a part right at the end when like the final
Speaker 2: four are there, for example, and they kind of RuPaul
Speaker 2: will hold up a photo of them from their childhood
Speaker 2: and be like, what would you say to four year
Speaker 2: old Timmy right now? And you know, it's an emotional
Speaker 2: moment where they go, you know, push through, like you
Speaker 2: know you won't understand who you are, but one day
Speaker 2: you will and you'll come out as this fierce drag queen.
Speaker 2: It's always like a really nice moment. And then like
Speaker 2: in the last season, it was like, what would you
Speaker 2: say to four year old Timmy? And there were AI
Speaker 2: images of them as a child Like it was so
Speaker 2: and to.
Speaker 1: Me, would they use that when they would have photos
Speaker 1: of them?
Speaker 2: This is what I don't understand, Like, that's what that's
Speaker 2: the AI that I have.
Speaker 1: A problem when you already have photos of.
Speaker 2: Using it? Doctors, go ahead and please, for the love
Speaker 2: of God, kure cancer so that it is worth it.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's a totally different AI
Speaker 2: to I guess what we're because artificial intelligence in general
Speaker 2: has been used.
Speaker 1: For agents, it's been around forever, not.
Speaker 2: What the conversation is really about. So if people do
Speaker 2: make that argument like one, I think they either don't
Speaker 2: understand the conversation that we're having or they're just too.
Speaker 2: I guess ignorant is the word to know or to
Speaker 2: agree or to accept that we're having two separate conversations.
Speaker 2: So that's that on that. But you know what, the
Speaker 2: biggest part about all of this is that about ninety
Speaker 2: percent of the influencers who went on this chat GPT
Speaker 2: brand trip were women. Now, of course, in this industry,
Speaker 2: it's very female dominated that a lot of women are influencers.
Speaker 2: It's just how it works. And in the I guess
Speaker 2: tech space, maybe there's more men, excuse more men, but
Speaker 2: it was definitely more women. And a lot of people
Speaker 2: had an interesting point where they said that it's interesting
Speaker 2: that so many women were because a lot of the
Speaker 2: men who were on the trip don't show their faces
Speaker 2: in their content.
Speaker 1: It's just like just tech.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the women were like at the front and
Speaker 2: the face of this brand trip, and a lot of
Speaker 2: people actually brought up a really good point that they made,
Speaker 2: saying that it's interesting that women are copying the brunt
Speaker 2: for these huge, big companies that have taken them on
Speaker 2: this brand trip. Like everyone's yelling at the women, not
Speaker 2: really the men, but the men don't show their faces.
Speaker 2: And regardless of that, conversation. It got me thinking back
Speaker 2: to a few weeks ago when we spoke about Kylie
Speaker 2: Jenner and the meta glasses, and I went, hang on
Speaker 2: a second, it all makes sense. Obviously, Kylie Jenna is
Speaker 2: the face of metaglasses because it now makes women go,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's a woman with the metaglasses. Because
Speaker 2: even the conversation, sorry, my mind was blown. The conversations
Speaker 2: we were having was creepy men in glasses are going
Speaker 2: to be perven on women with the glasses. They want
Speaker 2: to flip that narrative and go, Kylie Jenner is a
Speaker 2: woman and she so now women it's the meta glasses.
Speaker 2: And also young people. Obviously I think we've touched on
Speaker 2: they want to cater to young people, but I'm now like, no,
Speaker 2: they've used a woman to cater to women. On top
Speaker 2: of this, another thing clicked for me. Sorry to go
Speaker 2: totally opposite way, but bedding apps. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've noticed this, yeah, but they have recently started having
Speaker 2: women at the front of ads and saying things like
Speaker 2: bet on who wins Love Island, which again when I
Speaker 2: saw that, at first, I went, that's fucking random, Like
Speaker 2: they're betting on love Island now whatever, and I kept scrolling.
Speaker 1: It is really crazy when you think about it.
Speaker 3: I know we're like going like deep here, but it
Speaker 3: is crazy in Australia, like how normalized betting is.
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy and.
Speaker 3: We're so used to it that you don't even bat
Speaker 3: an eyelid, you know what I mean. Like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: whenever you're watching the TV, it's like pull on your
Speaker 3: like we're so conditioned to that that you just think, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's just like ad.
Speaker 2: I'm obviously not the target audience, but I watch those
Speaker 2: ads and I go, that would not sell a product
Speaker 2: to me neither. I don't know. I'm not the target
Speaker 2: audience me neither.
Speaker 1: But isn't it weird?
Speaker 3: And like it's obviously a whole thing, Like people have
Speaker 3: groups where they like it's a social thing and they
Speaker 3: bet together and all put their money in a pull.
Speaker 1: They really just want us all to stuff.
Speaker 2: I know, but I don't know what that means. But
Speaker 2: I just think I've seen and I've seen a pattern
Speaker 2: from the brand trip being whenever I saw those comments
Speaker 2: mentioning like oh it's women copying the brunt of this.
Speaker 2: I don't really like that because it's the men destroying
Speaker 2: the world. Agree, and then I went hang on. That
Speaker 2: reminded me of Kylie Jenner.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're all there like I'm just a gay guy.
Speaker 2: Like, well, now I've gotten the women ads. They're probably thinking, oh, well,
Speaker 2: we better target him with the women's ads.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of those.
Speaker 2: My tiktography thinks I'm a woman between the ages of
Speaker 2: twenty five and thirty five. Anyway, the way mine for
Speaker 2: ye Payjax. But anyway, I don't really have a point
Speaker 2: to all of that, but it's just something that I've noticed,
Speaker 2: and I think a girls, ladies, everyone listening, don't fall
Speaker 2: for betting on the winner of Love Island. I would
Speaker 2: strongly suggest getting against that because it can be gambling
Speaker 2: can be such a slippery search.
Speaker 1: Ever, a suggestion or a tip for people instead get
Speaker 1: it tip?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah nice?
Speaker 5: Yes, Tim, Fanny is to Fanny the bookie instead of
Speaker 5: uh me, instead of betting.
Speaker 3: One thing that I've seen, and maybe we've spoken about
Speaker 3: this before, like ages ago on the pod Matt, but
Speaker 3: I think a really good idea if you want to
Speaker 3: do something with your friends that involves money is I've
Speaker 3: seen people on TikTok and remind me if we've already
Speaker 3: spoken about this before, Matt. But I saw like a
Speaker 3: girl on TikTok talking about how her and her girlfriends
Speaker 3: have like a bank account that they opened up together,
Speaker 3: and every month or however often, they all chip in,
Speaker 3: like it could be twenty bucks a month or fifty
Speaker 3: bucks a month, whatever you want it to be, like
Speaker 3: with your closest girlfriends, and they kind of build it
Speaker 3: up every year and then at the end of the
Speaker 3: year they're left with, you know, however many thousands of dollars,
Speaker 3: and then they use that to go on a girl's trip,
Speaker 3: whether it's like a weekend away, go on to Melbourne,
Speaker 3: go on to Bali wherever. I know this is like
Speaker 3: obviously nothing like betting, because you're not betting on anything,
Speaker 3: But I just think that's like a nice little social
Speaker 3: thing to do rather than betting on who's going to
Speaker 3: win Love Ireland. Put money together with your friends, make
Speaker 3: sure they're strong friendships, because you imagine if one of
Speaker 3: the friendships goes sour. But I thought that was like
Speaker 3: a really cool thing that those girls do. I think
Speaker 3: the girl's name was Kim, I can't remember, but anyway,
Speaker 3: that was like a cool thing that I saw a
Speaker 3: bunch of friends doing. As to me, I don't have
Speaker 3: enough friends to do that.
Speaker 2: That's all right, your friends will just pay for a
Speaker 2: super yacht.
Speaker 3: Actually I do have enough friends, but all my friends
Speaker 3: are sort of disconnected, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I could do it with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well you put in one hundred bucks
Speaker 2: a week and I'll put in five dollars. We'll see
Speaker 2: where we can go.
Speaker 1: Before we get into the Royal flash Matt.
Speaker 3: When I was in Europe, I like wrote down a
Speaker 3: few notes in our shared notes thing, just like random
Speaker 3: thoughts that came into my mind. And because we were
Speaker 3: like sitting at a table on the boat, and they
Speaker 3: would like bring us like mini cokes, like if you
Speaker 3: ordered coatsyer, they just bring you like a little glass
Speaker 3: of it. And then we got onto laughing about like
Speaker 3: things that we did were mile kids.
Speaker 1: I always talk about this, but do.
Speaker 3: You remember when you were a kid and you'd sit
Speaker 3: around the dinner table to have your dinner, and like.
Speaker 1: Your mom or your dad would bring the cubes like three.
Speaker 6: Lead botto and they would whack it on the table
Speaker 6: with the plastic cards and it was just up to
Speaker 6: you guys to like pour yourself a car.
Speaker 2: No, what was that?
Speaker 1: Not a universal experience?
Speaker 2: It wasn't allowed drink. We were a fat free, sugar,
Speaker 2: fray everything free household.
Speaker 3: Okay, surely you went to like your friend's house one
Speaker 3: night and it was like fish and chips and a
Speaker 3: big free I lead a coke and you just get
Speaker 3: slapped on the table and it was up to the
Speaker 3: kids to like pour the massive, massive coke. Well anyway,
Speaker 3: I was just wondering do people still do that at
Speaker 3: the dinner table?
Speaker 1: Like I feel like now everyone gets their.
Speaker 3: Own individual drink, but when we were kids, you just
Speaker 3: got one big three leader to share, Like I want
Speaker 3: to know, reckon.
Speaker 2: That's like I reckon, there'd be a niche of people
Speaker 2: who that applies to.
Speaker 3: No leave a comment. Did that happen in your household?
Speaker 3: Did it happen in yours?
Speaker 2: I mean, my mum was watering down the apple juice.
Speaker 3: Like we were like, here's the chicken tenders and the
Speaker 3: three liter coke.
Speaker 2: Okay, yourself, I was water or apple juice, and if
Speaker 2: I had apple juice, the apple juice was watered down. Sorry, girl,
Speaker 2: we had no money and we were all on fat.
Speaker 2: It was fat free household, so.
Speaker 1: I lived the opposite life. Yeah, did you not get
Speaker 1: a big fat coke?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think I might be missing your point.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: We were just laughing about it in Europe, saying do
Speaker 3: people still do that these days with their families with
Speaker 3: like the big drink gets put in the middle and
Speaker 3: everyone just has to pour it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think everyone has such different tastes these days
Speaker 2: that and yeah, I don't know, we're cans not as
Speaker 2: available there, so like we.
Speaker 3: Just got the big family size one and you all
Speaker 3: had to pour it in those like plastic cups that
Speaker 3: had been washed so many times that had all scratch
Speaker 3: marks over.
Speaker 2: It, and the plastic was peeling off the top.
Speaker 1: Of and there's like macas cups and.
Speaker 2: Cups and things. But that's the funniest thing you've ever sad,
Speaker 2: probably the funniest thing you've ever said.
Speaker 1: Well, anyway, let's get onto the Royal flush.
Speaker 3: Please be upstanding for the Royal flush. O. Guess what
Speaker 3: last week I forgot to say. That's another episode done
Speaker 3: and dusted.
Speaker 2: Euro Summer Vibes. It's Tiffany, not you anyway, So we'll
Speaker 2: blame it Anti Fanny. What's your Royal Flush for me? Darlin?
Speaker 3: Okay, My Royal Flush is a Instagram account that I saw.
Speaker 3: It's a relatively new account, but I think it's picked
Speaker 3: up off an old account.
Speaker 1: It's called confession dot Daddy. Okay, have you seen it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: So it's got twenty seven thousand followers on Instagram, and
Speaker 3: the bio says I started a viral confessions project. These
Speaker 3: are the ones I could release. I couldn't release until now.
Speaker 3: Some confessions may be fictional for entertainment only with little
Speaker 3: shifty eye emoji. And the profile picture is a guy,
Speaker 3: so I'm guessing that's the who's running the page now.
Speaker 3: The page only has twelve posts and it was created
Speaker 3: in July, so it's relatively new. And basically, he is
Speaker 3: just sharing some confessions that people have emailed in now.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether.
Speaker 3: All of them are fictional or not, but I read
Speaker 3: some of them and I just thought it could be fun.
Speaker 3: I went through every single post because I loved reading them,
Speaker 3: and I just thought I could read some of them
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you want me to avoid any disgusting ones?
Speaker 3: No, you need to go and check out this page
Speaker 3: if you're listening confession dot Daddy. But some of these
Speaker 3: are wild like wild. So this one trigger warning is
Speaker 3: about a snot fetish. If you don't like snot, skip
Speaker 3: forward a minute. I have never told anyone this, no
Speaker 3: one burner email. Here goes, I have a snot fetish.
Speaker 3: I am a twenty nine year old woman, currently single,
Speaker 3: but have been in a couple of longish term relationships.
Speaker 1: I have a very.
Speaker 3: Intense snot and phlem fetish. Let me explain. I already
Speaker 3: feel sick, Matt. I have extreme a sexual arousal for snot.
Speaker 1: The more flemmy, thick and goofy the better.
Speaker 3: Not so much dry snot, but more the runny, thick, mucusy,
Speaker 3: clumpy snot from the sinus and chest.
Speaker 1: I'm wet writing this, no matter.
Speaker 2: I can even.
Speaker 1: Read the rule.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can I read the rest?
Speaker 1: Yes, you read out the next bit.
Speaker 2: With my last partner, I'd get him to cough up
Speaker 2: as much morning flem as possible. Ideally he would spit
Speaker 2: some into my mouth and some into my undies for
Speaker 2: the day. We'd use it as lube, and I'd go
Speaker 2: as far as getting him to flem or snot into
Speaker 2: a sandwich bag so I could use it as lube
Speaker 2: on myself in brackets I work from home. Anything to
Speaker 2: do with snot, I am so into the more vile,
Speaker 2: the better green, et cetera. I love when my partners
Speaker 2: are sick and can cough slash spit it on me.
Speaker 2: I have been known to get tissues out of the
Speaker 2: garbage bag and open them up. My life will never
Speaker 2: be the same again from this moment forward, Like I
Speaker 2: actually feel.
Speaker 1: Like kind of airconcs I'm sweating.
Speaker 2: There was some time before the snot story came into
Speaker 2: my life, and a time before this is like Jesus,
Speaker 2: this is bc DC ac DC kind of situation, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like this is before snot story
Speaker 2: after It's not Sorry. That was a pivotal moment in
Speaker 2: my life that I will never forget.
Speaker 3: Well some of these confessions on this and look again,
Speaker 3: some of these could be made up.
Speaker 1: Who knows They're entertaining either way. But a lot of
Speaker 1: these that I've read, I wish that I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to read.
Speaker 2: What's the next one? I just saw the thing as
Speaker 2: you took your phone back. The next one about wishing
Speaker 2: your best friend dead, what happened?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, so here's another one. I think I
Speaker 3: wished my best friend dead. I found an old potions
Speaker 3: and spells book from my grandmother who was into witchy
Speaker 3: and occult stuff, and I would always love reading it
Speaker 3: as a kid and teenager. Why my puffed spooky.
Speaker 2: Tiff Fanny is getting weird the same?
Speaker 1: Can I just say I'm so here for tiff Fanny?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Same?
Speaker 1: And like, if I ever say anything that could get
Speaker 1: me cancer, I was gonna blame it on to Fanny.
Speaker 2: It wasn't me.
Speaker 3: When I was twenty, my best friend made out with
Speaker 3: the guy at a party that I was seriously in
Speaker 3: love with. They went on to hook up some more,
Speaker 3: then started casually dating. She knew how much I was
Speaker 3: into him and had been for like three years. I
Speaker 3: was so angry at her one day that I found
Speaker 3: a potion for a quick demise in this old book.
Speaker 3: I had to mix up the various botanicals, create a potion,
Speaker 3: set my intentions, and spill the potion over a page
Speaker 3: with my feelings written on, then burn it the next day.
Speaker 3: I know it sounds far fetched and witchy, but yeah,
Speaker 3: the same day I burnt the paper, my friend was
Speaker 3: hit by a motor Laurie and died in hospital. I
Speaker 3: know logically it wasn't because I did some spell that
Speaker 3: it happened, but it's kind of what I believe.
Speaker 2: That's spooky. Yeah, where's that book? Find out what book
Speaker 2: that is? To make?
Speaker 1: What about this one? This is the worst. I accidentally
Speaker 1: blew my brother at a glory hole.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh
Speaker 6: my god, Oh.
Speaker 2: My god, Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 3: He didn't know I was gay. I didn't know he
Speaker 3: was gay. We had no idea each other would be
Speaker 3: on the other side, and only found out as we
Speaker 3: left the establishment afterwards.
Speaker 1: Fucking bad, bad bad.
Speaker 2: No, that's her. That's her stories that I can't put
Speaker 2: in the podcast.
Speaker 4: Have you heard just jumping in? There's the one where
Speaker 4: they all went away for the wedding and the bridal
Speaker 4: party and then the groom's party all went out doing
Speaker 4: different things, but they all ended up in this sex
Speaker 4: on premises venue and the bride thought, fuck it, I'll
Speaker 4: just go in and give it one last go, and
Speaker 4: she sucked off a guy and it was her dad.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, why do you told me these things?
Speaker 4: No? The wedding was canceled.
Speaker 3: Like, my god, you need to make a montage with
Speaker 3: this and be like we're doing confessions.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was like the best reaction of
Speaker 2: my life. By the way, like that gagged me that well,
Speaker 2: just like the bride.
Speaker 1: Let me find another good one. Okay, Matt, this one's.
Speaker 2: Also I wish you could come to a glory hole
Speaker 2: just to experience it, brit I think you'd lose your mind.
Speaker 2: What I just think you'd I just think you'd stand
Speaker 2: there and go, wow, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Can we please make that a social clip? Just no,
Speaker 1: cont Do you want another few?
Speaker 2: I feel like we can't get much worse? So should
Speaker 2: we end on a high or give me give me a.
Speaker 1: This one is personal to you.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, great, that's another glory whole one.
Speaker 3: A few years ago, I worked at a Santa Photo
Speaker 3: boothbrush shopping center.
Speaker 2: Oh with smart My confession.
Speaker 1: I fucked Santa while he was in costume on his
Speaker 1: Santa bench. He was sixty.
Speaker 3: I was twenty five at the time. Best of my life.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's crazy. It doesn't say whether it was a man,
Speaker 2: doesn't say because that's a bit gay, Like I feel
Speaker 2: like is a twenty five year old girl fucking Santa,
Speaker 2: because I don't know that's weird. But then twenty five
Speaker 2: year old guy fucking Santa. I go, yeah, that'd be
Speaker 2: that'd be a weird gay guys fetish. That'd be gay
Speaker 2: Jay's fetish fucking Santa. What did he say, hard.
Speaker 1: Work on Santa's bench?
Speaker 2: What do you mean on Santa's bench in the middle
Speaker 2: of the shopping center.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, there's people around shorely or if not cameras.
Speaker 3: Do you want one last one?
Speaker 1: Or you have not?
Speaker 2: I I want one more? Really go for it?
Speaker 3: Okay, this one I need your opinion on. So me
Speaker 3: and my mate happened to get our wives pregnant around
Speaker 3: the same time, which was awesome, going to be dad's
Speaker 3: at the same time. We are both practical jokers and
Speaker 3: come up with what we thought was going to be
Speaker 3: a funny one.
Speaker 1: We thought, if the timing aligned, we.
Speaker 3: Would swap our babies for a couple of days or
Speaker 3: until they noticed, which we thought would be really soon
Speaker 3: ha ha. So it turns out our babies were born
Speaker 3: same hospital one day apart, and we were both discharged
Speaker 3: the day after, and what we did was swap our babies,
Speaker 3: thinking our missuses would notice straight away, even though they
Speaker 3: looked pretty similar.
Speaker 1: I guess it went on for twelve days ha ha ha.
Speaker 3: Anyway, we finally fessed up and both our wives were
Speaker 3: so angry, like next level. We thought they'd kind of
Speaker 3: laugh it off, but it was months of silent treatment.
Speaker 1: I'd leave me rightfully, so I would leave him.
Speaker 2: That's giving like like that there's no consent there, Like
Speaker 2: that's really scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Anyway, check out confession dot Daddy on Instagram.
Speaker 2: We should have we should have. We should have just
Speaker 2: stopped it at the at the Sanda fucking or the
Speaker 2: one before that was the one before that, the dad,
Speaker 2: the dad, the bride and the dad. We should just
Speaker 2: stopped at the bride and the dad because it got
Speaker 2: dark there. Anyway, my royal flash will it hasen? You
Speaker 2: know this this episode, this is happy Chatfield's influence. This
Speaker 2: episode has been a lot about hating man and the
Speaker 2: effect men have on the world. But I have a
Speaker 2: royal flush, which is from a friend of the pod.
Speaker 2: Friend of the pod, m Rasciano. Who can we get
Speaker 2: her on? I'd love Oh no, wait, I'll save it.
Speaker 2: I can interview on her on my new podcast, which
Speaker 2: will be coming to Nova Podcasts soon, and Gage is
Speaker 2: going to sort that out for us, aren't you.
Speaker 3: You're still to do a whole pitch the way that
Speaker 3: I did with Big Business.
Speaker 2: Okay, you tell me how to pitch, and I'll pitch it.
Speaker 2: Not now, I will well scroll as I need your feedback,
Speaker 2: so DM me or right in the scrollars chat or whatever,
Speaker 2: because I'll be using that as evidence. What was I
Speaker 2: going to look up?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And Rossiano's video Now, she is hilarious and she
Speaker 2: does a lot of videos about being a mum and
Speaker 2: I love that. And she did this video after her
Speaker 2: son asked her to watch him jump off a rock.
Speaker 2: Parents normally as telling you a kid that something that
Speaker 2: they're doing is boring and not worth witnessing.
Speaker 1: Elio just asked me to watch him jump down from
Speaker 1: a rock, not even an impressive rock, a small rock.
Speaker 1: And I looked at him and I said.
Speaker 3: No, Why I'm not sending another man into the world
Speaker 3: who thinks everything he does needs witnessing.
Speaker 1: Next we'll be starting a podcast.
Speaker 3: You know, I remember being a kid and being like that,
Speaker 3: like watch me, watch me, watch.
Speaker 2: Me, And what was your parents' reaction.
Speaker 3: I never paid attention because I don't think for the kid,
Speaker 3: it's actually about like the parent watching them and getting
Speaker 3: the parents reaction.
Speaker 1: I think it's just like wanting attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I never watched my parents reaction, but I can only
Speaker 3: imagine they just rolled their fucking eye. Yeah, probably, or
Speaker 3: like when you come home with a really shitty artwork
Speaker 3: that you've done and you're like, look at this, and
Speaker 3: then they're like, put it on the fridge.
Speaker 1: I never saw their reaction. They probably just went, this
Speaker 1: is fucking shit. Look at a spaghetti necklace that I
Speaker 1: made today.
Speaker 2: Ah Well, obviously this video caused quite the stir online
Speaker 2: and people had like quite a lot of opinions. I absolutely,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent agree with her. I really like when
Speaker 2: she says at the end of the video, she says,
Speaker 2: I'm not sending another man into the world that thinks
Speaker 2: everything he does needs witnessing, And I was like, that
Speaker 2: is such a good point, because like, I think we
Speaker 2: are shaping men into being fucking diabolical and we can
Speaker 2: change that. Obviously, a lot of parents were upset. A
Speaker 2: lot of parents were upset at her about this reaction
Speaker 2: she was having to her kid just wanting a bit
Speaker 2: of attention. They were like, oh, like, he's gonna have
Speaker 2: issues because he doesn't feel loved and whatever. And I
Speaker 2: thought that was like a perfect I'm sure she shows
Speaker 2: him how much she loves him in a lot of
Speaker 2: other ways he doesn't need to see. When she was
Speaker 2: like that's not impressive jumping off a fucking rock, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, you are me. I just
Speaker 2: thought it was fabulous, hilarious and it was my Royal
Speaker 2: flush of the week and it did cause quite a
Speaker 2: stir online.
Speaker 3: I feel like anything to do with kids online causes
Speaker 3: a stir so trick to parents, and I feel like
Speaker 3: I can never comment on anything that happens because.
Speaker 1: I'm not a parent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, therefore, like why would I ever comment on something?
Speaker 3: But like, if one thing, if there's one thing that
Speaker 3: I've noticed, but I think everyone notices it.
Speaker 2: So why not. There's so many non business owners commenting
Speaker 2: on everything you do. So true.
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm gonna start commentating on everything and go will
Speaker 3: people tell me how to run my business when they
Speaker 3: don't even own line?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so many people commenting on trans people who aren't trans.
Speaker 2: So so everyone in the world comments on things that
Speaker 2: they know nothing about it. I saw, so we can
Speaker 2: comment on parenting.
Speaker 1: Martha from me.
Speaker 2: I I was going to bring that up.
Speaker 3: Next there was a clip of her and her kids
Speaker 3: and her older son was like being annoying or something,
Speaker 3: and she raised her voice at him in a video,
Speaker 3: and that obviously then divided the Internet of people saying.
Speaker 1: Like, don't yell at your kids, other people saying that's
Speaker 1: just a normal family. And I just think I just
Speaker 1: can't with the Internet, matts.
Speaker 2: I cancel me for this. But when she yelled in
Speaker 2: my pissed, I plaxed myself. I went and you know what,
Speaker 2: put them put him in line, put them in again.
Speaker 3: I think, like, it's so easy for people to see
Speaker 3: something online and comment and think that they're perfect. But again,
Speaker 3: I'm not a parent, so I can't say. But I
Speaker 3: can only imagine that every single parent in the world
Speaker 3: at least once has yelled at their kids, just once.
Speaker 3: But when they're in the comments of Martha's post, they
Speaker 3: are a perfect parent that has never yelled at their kids.
Speaker 3: Like I grew up in a household where I feel
Speaker 3: like I got yelled at and screamed at every day.
Speaker 2: And you've turned out all right. Yeah, so, but that's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, if you can get through that and
Speaker 2: look where you are now, then him getting told to
Speaker 2: get off the chair and get out of the kitchen,
Speaker 2: surely the pool kids, this is what I mean.
Speaker 3: But I think, like I think a lot of us,
Speaker 3: like maybe not you, Matt, but like a lot of
Speaker 3: us grew up like literally being fucking yelled at twenty
Speaker 3: four to seven, screamed at every day, and that was
Speaker 3: like the norm for me, which obviously isn't nice.
Speaker 1: But then like to see all these.
Speaker 3: Perfect parents in the comments being like, don't yell at
Speaker 3: your kid, like as if you go through your child's
Speaker 3: whole life and you didn't just like raise your voice
Speaker 3: at them once, like I'm sure they have at least
Speaker 3: once again, I don't know, because I'm not a parent,
Speaker 3: I'm not in anyone's family.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there'd be uh.
Speaker 3: And then everyone in the comments was like, if we
Speaker 3: all don't lose our temper every now and then with
Speaker 3: our kids, Like heaps of parents were saying that, because like,
Speaker 3: you lose your shit, you get overwhelmed, you made your voice,
Speaker 3: you probably regret it later.
Speaker 2: I honestly think that maybe just parenting is just whatever
Speaker 2: you want to do. Mm hmm, and that's that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I agree, But then I think, like it may be
Speaker 3: like the issue with people that put their kids online
Speaker 3: and their family online, is it then does open up
Speaker 3: the gates of people to then commentate on how you parente,
Speaker 3: which I then agree with you that parenting in the
Speaker 3: way that you choose to bring.
Speaker 1: Up your kids. Again, who am I to fucking though this?
Speaker 3: I don't have any kids, but it is like an
Speaker 3: individual thing, and every single family is different, every single
Speaker 3: parent is different. But because it's so broadcasted on social media,
Speaker 3: does it then make society think there must be ways
Speaker 3: that you must parent? Because what were our parents watching
Speaker 3: back in the day? There was none of this social
Speaker 3: media stuff where they could compare the way they parent
Speaker 3: to other families.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, weren't they Were there any shows about parenting.
Speaker 3: Not in like a live, real life way that we
Speaker 3: are now on social media where you can see the
Speaker 3: way of family parents. True?
Speaker 2: In fact, even not parents just operates in general like
Speaker 2: no one had access to how other families.
Speaker 1: Also, right, I was saying a couple of months ago.
Speaker 3: Here we back in the day couldn't see all the
Speaker 3: things that we see now we couldn't see in other
Speaker 3: people's homes. We only saw in our friends and family's homes.
Speaker 3: Now we can see in the homes of every person
Speaker 3: on the fucking internet, which is not normal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, normal normal, not normal, It's crazy. It is crazy.
Speaker 2: And thankfully am Rosciano came out again and doubled down
Speaker 2: on her on her stance on that and went even
Speaker 2: further with that and talked about it on her podcast,
Speaker 2: which once you've done listening to all our episodes, you
Speaker 2: could probably go and have a look listen to that.
Speaker 2: But she kind of covers more in depth as to
Speaker 2: her feeling. Basically just says the same thing in a
Speaker 2: longer way.
Speaker 3: Do you want to think that your kid not jumping
Speaker 3: off a rock is that's not impressive?
Speaker 1: That's okay?
Speaker 3: And if someone else has kids and they say no,
Speaker 3: I want to show them my full attention every time
Speaker 3: they jump off a rock, that's okay too. Like both
Speaker 3: things can exist. But I think when it comes to
Speaker 3: the Internet, I know, we kind of keep having this
Speaker 3: same sort of theme every week lately, but the Internet
Speaker 3: just seems to think, nah, there's only one way.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 2: Well, we do have the same kind of theme. But
Speaker 2: I just think that's.
Speaker 1: Like the world.
Speaker 2: It's the world right now. Yeah, because my other thought. Again,
Speaker 2: sorry to drag men into this, but I'm not sorry
Speaker 2: at all. Imagine that same video was made by a
Speaker 2: man I reckon, the comments would be totally different.
Speaker 1: They just think it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell him to tough enough, Tell him to tough
Speaker 2: en up. We're not watching his stupid jumping off a rock. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah. You tell him what a great role model
Speaker 2: he has. To tell him that not everything's going to
Speaker 2: be easy in life. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: The comments would be hyping the dad up, going what
Speaker 2: a good like because the dad would be like, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna let him. They'd all go they do the
Speaker 2: Luke Bateman of it all and go, oh, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for speaking on this, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for being the person and good on it. Nothing against
Speaker 2: Luke Bateman, but do you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: if you look at his comments, I go, oh, wang
Speaker 2: quank wank, honestly, and it.
Speaker 1: Would be full of that.
Speaker 2: It'd be full of that because the women I've been
Speaker 2: saying all these things for god knows how much and
Speaker 2: getting torn down for it, and then as soon as
Speaker 2: a straight man does it, it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: let's all fucking drop our knees and suck them through
Speaker 2: a glory hole, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I will say like seeing Luke Bateman's videos popping up,
Speaker 3: it does like like we're not used to seeing a
Speaker 3: guy talking out against those types of.
Speaker 2: Things, which is great. Love that, yeah, love that.
Speaker 1: But it's not like it's a new topic.
Speaker 2: No, And I think that's like the frustrating thing for
Speaker 2: me is definitely like seeing the amount of comments and
Speaker 2: I guess it all leads to conversation, which is great,
Speaker 2: but I'm also like, nothing he's saying is profound and revolutionary. No,
Speaker 2: It's just it's something I've known for ages, something known
Speaker 2: for ages. It's stuff that you, as a woman have
Speaker 2: to deal with all the time. It's stuff that me,
Speaker 2: as someone who has majority women in their life around them,
Speaker 2: knows very well. And so it just kind of like, oh, good,
Speaker 2: one straight man has caught on to the fucking conversation. Great,
Speaker 2: We've still got a long way to go, Darlin. But anyway,
Speaker 2: props to him, love that for him, All good, All
Speaker 2: love to you, Luke. Sorry, I feel like they came
Speaker 2: across as like I'm being a bitch, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: But it is an eye roll at the same time.
Speaker 1: That's another episode done in dusty.
Speaker 2: Yes it is. Thanks for listening, scrollers, don't forget new
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 2: Can I just say and thank you to the Spotify
Speaker 2: I mean I don't check Apple, sorry, but the Spotify
Speaker 2: commenters you've been going off recently, like.
Speaker 1: You you're getting to read the comments?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well can you read one right now?
Speaker 1: Well it's going to be from Christians, so true. But
Speaker 1: Abby is way better than Britain.
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of we really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: A lot of you have been commenting and it definitely
Speaker 2: helps us out because we've slowly been pumping up the
Speaker 2: charts as well.
Speaker 3: I've been seeing that again, like we always say when
Speaker 3: we record a podcast, like we sit here and we're
Speaker 3: talking to each other, but then we go home and
Speaker 3: that's it and we don't like we.
Speaker 1: Don't see anyone listening.
Speaker 3: And I was saying engage the other day, I really thrive.
Speaker 3: I'm like a stats person, but like we don't see it.
Speaker 2: It's probably time for Nova to send us a stats
Speaker 2: report again. It's been ages.
Speaker 1: Because I thrive on stats.
Speaker 2: The stats report, Oh, make it happen.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much, because you know, when
Speaker 3: we upload a real we can see how many people
Speaker 3: watched it.
Speaker 2: And I'm all about growth as well. I always want
Speaker 2: to be like on that trajectory, so I want to
Speaker 2: make sure that we're still going what can we do differently?
Speaker 2: Let us know, let us know what you're loving about
Speaker 2: the pod. Like, we've really recently tried to inject a
Speaker 2: bit more of the trending aspect and then keeping close
Speaker 2: friends more for like personal life sort of stuff or
Speaker 2: like fun things. And of course you've got the YouTube
Speaker 2: exclusives going live each week as well, which are always
Speaker 2: something different, and I mean I did the little vlog
Speaker 2: and things like that, so there's we're trying to keep
Speaker 2: it fun and fresh and new, and I mean, we've
Speaker 2: had no real complaints to be concerned about, but we
Speaker 2: also need to hear that you're loving it, So be
Speaker 2: honest with us and tell us what you're loving anyway, dull,
Speaker 2: I better let you go. What the fuck did we
Speaker 2: talk about this week