WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 22 April 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.000 On scyn Lives Ostrodia. 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.280 This is the Wider Panalty Show. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.319 Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. Coming 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.520 up tonight, the crime rate becomes an election issue as 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:16.520 poll's open for early voting. 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.920 Patrick Carlin will be with me shortly. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.640 A high school student pleads with adults to protect her 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:27.200 from males identifying as females from accessing girls' locker rooms. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.280 I'll speak to Stefan Bastin about that and much more. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.680 Kosha Gata will be here with the latest from the US, 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.040 and later in the hour, the always hilarious Alex Stein 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.040 will join me with his campaign to end the deportation 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:44.479 of pot latinas I'm serious and left he's losing it. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:46.400 Features this young lady. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.920 There's one thing that they'll never be able to take 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:54.720 from me, and that's who I am. I'm a trans 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.360 woman and I'm proud now. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:00.520 Over the weekend, it was confirmed that Daniel Andrews decision 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.360 to force millions of Melbournians to live under an eight 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.600 pm to five am curfew during the COVID nineteen era 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.039 was not based on medical advice. After explosive documents were 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:16.039 finally made public, former chure Health Officer Bret Sutton and 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.840 then Public Health Commander Finn Romaines exchange emails of the 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.240 time showing that although it had not been proposed by 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:27.560 health experts, Sutton did ultimately submit to the direction of 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.080 the Victorian government and supported the move. Joining me now 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.880 for more on this is News Corps senior writer Patrick 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.679 Carly and Patrick this was a captain's call, and so 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.640 many in this state, from the bureaucrats, the health bureaucrats 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:46.600 to members of the media, failed to question this extraordinary move. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.160 I remember I was one of the very few. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:54.120 He was aghast by what was happening, and the response 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:58.360 was overwhelmingly that of support from just about everyone here. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.040 You would expect to stay sep forward and question something 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.560 as astonishing as forcing people to stay within their homes 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:07.920 after eight pm. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.720 That's right, Look, it's triggering just talking about this. It's 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.840 almost almost been five years. And the fact was, at 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.280 the time of the curfew is being introduced, no other 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.480 city in the world, as far as I can remember, 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.440 was having curfews. There was no push for them anywhere 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.720 else in Australia, certainly to the extent of Victoria. And 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.600 it was plain almost from the get go that this 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.480 was a political decision. I think Dan Andrews made some 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.240 reference to making it easier for the police force to 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.679 enforce the silly rules. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:36.600 As they were at that time. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.680 It had no It is an absolute travesty of justice 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.760 that this was allowed to pass the way that you were. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.639 All these human rights activists, the Human Rights Commission. Where 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.920 were all these bodies that we set up that we 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.160 support with our tax dollars, that are actually supposed to 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.320 step forward and say no to this sort of overreach, 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:57.519 this sort of. 0:02:58.960 --> 0:02:59.760 Dictatorship. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.600 Really the premiere just deciding on his own with his 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.360 little It wasn't even a cabinet decision. It was the 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.240 premier's captain's callwell to impose a curfew. I mean that 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.560 the man must have been on some sort of amazing 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:14.320 power trip. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:14.880 Imagine that. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.519 Imagine a premier saying, millions of people in my state, 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:20.919 you're staying home, you're not allowed to leave. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.600 Well, it's described as cowboy behavior, and you look at 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:25.679 it now in the cold light of day, and you say, 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.079 what the hell was that we had protests? I mean, 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.720 he was picking and choosing which protests were allowable. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:34.560 You had black lives matter in the middle of it. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:39.160 Then you had the anti lockdown protesters treated very harshly authorities. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.760 Public health became this sort of give or take thing 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.280 according to the politics of the day, in such a 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.360 protracted and strident way. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.160 I mean, it really is, really is an. 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.760 Indictment on Victoria's history that these things were allowed to happen. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.920 Now to the death of Pope Francis yesterday, and there 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.200 is already great speculation who will be the next pope. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:06.120 Only cardinals who are the second highest ranking members of 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.400 the church will be able to vote, and a number 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.520 of front runners have already emerged. One of those is 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:17.520 a Korean diplomat and the Vatican Secretary of State, Pietro Palyn, 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.680 the second most senior churchman in the Vatican, and Hungarian 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.839 Cardinal Peter Edo is another one who's favored by Minnie 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:30.960 Patrick to be fairly conservative in his Outlooker, tell me 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.280 about how you see the reign of Pope Francis and 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:40.520 how the next Pope would hope to shape the Catholic Church. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:48.000 You would say that it's undergone some significant changes under 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.320 the rule of Pope France's rule may not be in 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:55.800 the right word He was an interesting figure in that 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.039 I heard a lot of Catholics who are unhappy with 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.359 him as pope and some of the things he was 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.760 choosing to advocate for and some of the things he 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.080 was choosing to ignore. But he did have also great 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.159 support from non Catholics. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:11.360 That's right. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.640 Look, he had an activist streak if you like that. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.359 That was unlike any other pope. He was against pollution, 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.680 he was against you know, he was very strong on 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.640 climate change. He got in a bit of a fight 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.320 with JdE Vance I think at one point about America's 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:29.040 immigration rules. That was all very unpope like, if that's 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.320 the word. And at the same time he sort of 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.159 he failed to satisfy either of the conservatives, who's never 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.359 going to please, But he didn't please the progressive within 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.680 the church. Now these are relative terms. I mean, when 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.320 you say progressive in the Catholic Church, you'd probably throw 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:49.840 it back to about one hundred years before, where society progressive. 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:52.920 But he had the net efect because he did have 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:57.720 He did have audiences with members of the trans community 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.520 on a regular basis. He was very much outspoken, like 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:06.279 you said, about climate change. He got involved in issues 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:10.480 like the deportation program of certain countries. But then there 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.360 was criticism that he wasn't outspoken enough when he came 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.359 to the persecution of Christians, particularly a number of African 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.719 countries NAT countries in the Middle East, where you would 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.520 expect the pope to be really at the forefront of 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:24.000 that fight. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.520 That's right, And look, he's very quiet on the church 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:31.200 and the sex abuse stuff that's internationally happened. He really 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.520 didn't stand up on that at all. You still have 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.320 the impression that the church is busy protecting itself at 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.080 the expense of protecting its victims. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.360 And so he was a mixed bag in that sense. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:43.640 He was quick to. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.799 Smile, he had a light way about him. He certainly 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.200 internationalized the church in a lot of ways. A lot 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.720 of those cardinals who will vote on the next pope 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.560 barely know each other because they're all from they're far 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.000 flung from all over the world. So it's a real 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.560 it's a real guest to who the next pope will be. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.280 Perhaps what I would say is he'll be a crusty 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.120 old man, perhaps with not a lot of life experience 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.640 in some ways, just like every other pote But it'll 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:11.120 be interesting. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:16.560 Now to the sentence of AFL star Noah Bolter. The 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:21.000 Richmond defender was sped jail today, but he has a 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.640 criminal conviction patrick for assaulting a man in December. Is 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:29.200 also received a community corrections order which includes eight ten 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:34.440 pm curfew. How is this going to work? Because he 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.520 can't travel to state, he can't play night games exactly. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:40.920 How the Tiger's going to handle this? 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.560 They've got a big Blockbuster game coming up and Zach 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.160 Day Eve this Thursday. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.520 Will he be participating. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:49.240 At this point? You'd think not. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.600 I imagine the club will be running around like man trying 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:54.640 to trying to change his curfew. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.920 Curfews aren't good. Look, it's an interesting one. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.840 It's become such a a public talking point, this whole discussion. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.160 Should he be banned from playing football? Should the premiere 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:11.720 be jumping in and giving her two cents worth on it? Look, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.440 I don't know how to cur if you will play out? 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:14.760 That makes it very interesting. 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.440 It certainly does, because presumably he can play a Saturday 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.280 afternoon game. But are they going to keep him on 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.280 the list if he can play the occasional game. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:24.720 It's a bit harder. You have to be tucked up 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.280 in bed at ten tenth year. I don't know. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:29.960 It's going to be interesting to see if there's going 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.319 to be any flexibility and whether that will be seen 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:36.760 as preferential treatment for someone who's obviously a star of 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:41.199 the AFL. They mentioned the premiere. She's certainly got involved 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:45.559 in this drama. She made these comments before he was sentenced. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.720 It's up to Richmond Football Club to explain why they've 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:53.000 made this football decision as parents around the country are 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:54.600 going to sit down with their kids and watch the 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.520 footy this weekend and trying to explain to their kids 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.000 why this behavior is wrong and dangerous. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.040 So she was very upset there that Richmond were playing him. 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.440 Now that saw former Richmond coach and current Gold Coast 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.319 Sons coach Damien Hardwick hit back at the premiere. 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.920 Yeah, once again, he got a suspension through Richmond, through 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.120 the AFL at a four week penalty. End of the day, 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.839 got a pre premier that put her nose in someone 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.240 else's business. She should just concentrate on getting the state 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:26.520 run and well, absolute mockery of her making comments with 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:27.120 regard to that. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.840 But ind of the day, he's played guilty. He understands 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.200 that he's going to copy fairwack Patrick. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.480 My god, it's a bit of a drama, this one. Now, 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.640 what do you make of all that? I guess the 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.120 point that Damion Hardwick was making there is that the 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:44.400 Victorian premiere, the Victorian government is notorious for being soft 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.880 on crime. The crime crisis in this state is a 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.600 significant issue. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.160 So why should we choose to weigh in on this? 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.640 Seems to be Well, she's opened herself up for this 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:54.439 sort of criticism. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.880 Look, I'm guessing there must have mention bad economic news 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.760 last on the day that she was saying that, because 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.120 it's the great distraction, isn't it? Everyone's been talking about it. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:07.040 Should she shouldn't she have? Hardwiks jumped in on it. 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.959 It's produced so many words and newspapers and so much commentary. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.240 Look, you're a Richmond man. I'm actually the next We 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.800 should be upfront with that. So everything you're saying is 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:19.680 colored by. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.400 Bold had a fracking game on Saturday night and a 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:22.960 great win. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:25.080 That's two this year. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.960 Look at the hard one and if you compare it 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.440 to there's going to be six eight ten across nrl 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:36.720 AFL cases of players who have been charged with being violent. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.920 I mean this one is probably at the lower end. 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:41.680 The footage is dreadful. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:42.920 The footage is pretty bad. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.439 I mean, this is the thing. Some of those offenses 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.920 were caught on video, but this was. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:48.720 Caught on video. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:50.559 So it does make a bigger. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.800 It does, and you watch that footage, it's pretty confronting. 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.240 Before you go, we're talking about crime. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.200 The latest one of the campaign trap hitter Darton has 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.760 been talking about Australia's deepening crime crisis. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.000 There's obviously real concern and certainly it's not just here 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.559 in Victoria either And talking to a colleague in Wa 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:14.280 the other day outdoor knocking, it was a singular biggest 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.439 issue that was raised. People just worried about crime in 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.720 their own neighborhood and that is the case in New 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.800 South Wales and in my state of Coinslone and elsewhere. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.199 That's the reality, singular biggest issue being raised. We hear 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.560 so much about cost of living, of course that's the 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:34.080 top issue, but crime is very much an issue. It's 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:38.920 seen as a state issue. But what can the federal 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.800 government do about that? And should Peter Dutton lean into 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.479 this issue because it's one where he has an advantage 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:50.199 over an alpen easy Additionally, Coalition is seen as harder 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.600 on crime than labor. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.200 And he used to be a police officer, of course. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:56.880 And look there was a poll I think back in 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.960 January that showed the climate change as an important issue 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:04.280 dropped off safety. Public anxiety about safety had gone up 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:08.719 ten percent or something like a massive amount. I don't 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:10.120 think it's about I don't think you're going to lose 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.320 any votes by doing this, are you? And it does 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.280 actually in places like Victoria, it does tap into that 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.440 sense that the state government has been so weak on 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:22.240 crime that we are actually in jeopardy in our own homes. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.360 It is something that can be exploited. I don't think 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.480 it's going to lose any votes. It'll be interesting to 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.480 see how it plays out and whether label will actually 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.320 sort of respond to it in a meaningful way. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:35.600 At your Carlyon, thanks for you time tonight. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.520 Joining me now is the head of advocacy at Women's 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:44.280 Forum Australia, Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie, let's start with the local 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.760 response to the landmark court verdict in the UK which 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.720 rule that a woman is a biological female who knew. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.920 Australia's Sex Discrimination Commissioner and a Cody. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:56.280 This is her response. 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.520 She said, trans and gender diverse people are a vital 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.480 part of our community and this moment reminds us that 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.680 we must continue to advocate for the full enjoyment of 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.479 human rights for all in our communities here in Australia, 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.080 not retreat from it. The laws in the UK are 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.840 not the laws of Australia. Our laws should reflect inclusion, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.680 respect and the right of all people to live with dignity. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:30.360 Stephanie, dear me, she doesn't get it, does she? No? 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.199 Well, Anacoda is an active disappointment by the current Labor government, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.920 but she is so far removed from the scope of 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.960 her role. The purpose of the Sex Discrimination Commissioner is 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.480 to advocate for women and their sex based rights in 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.520 line with the Sex Discrimination Act which was implemented with 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.000 SEED or the International Convention to Protect Women's. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.360 Sex Based Rights. And if you have a look. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:58.040 At the Equalities Commissioner in the UK in comparison to Anacody, 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.960 they recognized there was a conflict between women's sex base 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.280 rights and what men who identified as women were demanding, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.160 and so they actually asked the courts to make a 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:11.319 ruling so they could provide clarity within their scope. She's 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.400 not interested. She has done very little to advocate for 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.040 women at all. She said nothing about the fact that 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.800 there are male sex offenders being housed in female prisons. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:22.840 And I think that. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:26.600 She really makes the case as to why these commissions 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:27.440 should be abolished. 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.040 They're not fit for purpose. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:32.400 And not fit for purpose. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.800 It's almost they're comically working against the purpose if your 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.920 purpose is to be protecting the rights of women. Also 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:45.280 really disappointing was the response from the opposition leader Peter Darton. 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.880 Let's have a listen in light of this ruling, what 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:49.320 is your definition of a woman? 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.560 Well, that's a matter obviously, it's been before the British courts. 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.800 I haven't seen the detail of the case and it's 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.960 not something that I think his front of mine's at 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:58.400 this election. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.880 Stephanie see to dodge the question there, But it was 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.080 a long ago, just during the last election campaign, where 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.480 Anthony Albanesi was asked the question what is a woman? 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.120 He didn't treat it as a gotcha question. He gave 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:13.560 a very simple definition. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:14.720 What is a woman? 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.640 Prime Minister? An adult female? 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.520 How difficult was that to answer? 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:21.800 Not too hard, Stephanie. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.800 Have we actually regressed as the rest of the world 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.960 has opened its eyes in this debate and we actually 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.440 got backwards in this country. We've now got the conservative 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:36.480 alternative dodging the question. When Anthony Albanzi was very comfortable 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:40.160 a few years ago saying a woman is an adult female. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.880 I thought Peter Dutton's response was extremely disappointing. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:44.720 He knows better. 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:49.080 He's got strong advocates within his party, particularly Claire Chandra 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.480 and the like, who have been very strong on this issue, 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.800 and I think his answer there indicates that he wants 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:56.520 to be Prime minister more than he wants to lead. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.400 There is nothing to lose by standing strong on this 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.440 issue and by advocating for women's sex base rights. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.680 Women are calling for some leadership on this issue. We 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:06.360 hear from. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:10.480 Mums and girls at school all the time who really. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:11.760 Wants some clarity on this and if. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.960 He were to bring a policy to the election and 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.920 to lead on this issue, they would have a stronger 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.960 voice in this country too, because at the moment, if 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.120 you're the opposition leader and you want to be Prime 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.720 Minister and you can't take a position on this, what 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.720 chance does any other person who wants to hold their 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.080 job and be involved in their community. 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:34.800 Have Yeah, you make an excellent point, But he does 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:39.160 have people within his party, Stephanie, who have been weak 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.880 on this issue. When these bills have come up in 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.640 the Senate, there's a number of senators who vote with 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.520 Labor and the Greens to defeat these bills. So is 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.640 there a bit of a crisis within the Liberal Party 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.040 when it comes to this issue which should be simple. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:54.680 It's an eighty twenty issue. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.760 Eighty percent of the population is crying out for politicians 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.880 to represent their views. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:03.920 Oh. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.680 Absolutely, And I think there's a fear from the backlash 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.919 within the media. Many have talked about the you know, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.280 Cathieves run and Wringa and the media backlash over her 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:19.600 position on women's rights to sex based sport. But I 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.120 think it's really unfair because the public are on site. 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.480 It's actually activists within the media and within our institutions 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.399 that are sort of pushing this whole transphobia line that 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.800 are stopping people from speaking out. So I think the 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.120 Liberal Party needs to get a backbone on this issue 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.639 and they need to lead and show some strengths. 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.399 Absolutely, it's an eighty twenty issue, and the media, the 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.960 activist class, the political class are all with the twenty percent. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.920 You could even argue it's a ninety ten issue. Now 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:54.280 to reports that Queensland Children's Gender Servers has removed an 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:58.760 information leaflet for parents from their website which contained a 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.040 quote from a father of a ten year old trans boy, 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.960 and this is the quote. It said, the real concern 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:06.920 was the statistics on suicide. 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.600 I didn't want my son to be one. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.920 So I supported him in the decisions ahead and the 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:17.240 informed him as best as possible Steph. The hospital decided 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:21.520 to include that even though the alleged links between refusing 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:26.360 to let your child transition medically or otherwise and suicide 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:30.280 is based on the FLIMSI activist research. 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.879 Well, if there was any scientific basis for that claim, 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.720 they wouldn't have removed at RITA. In fact, the evidence 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.280 is to the contrary. If kids aren't transitioned, the majority 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.280 of them overcome their gender dysphoria. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:45.800 There was a study that. 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.520 Came out in the Oxford Journal for Sexual Health in 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.119 February this year. There are over one hundred thousand participants 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:56.600 of transgender patents in this cohort that found overwhelmingly the 0:18:56.640 --> 0:19:01.360 mental health outcomes post transition, especially surgery is we're devastating, 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:08.040 including suicide, suicidal, idelation, substance abuse, deppression and anxiety. The 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.199 evidence is that the medical transition to treatments for these 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.760 vulnerable people is not helping them. And I think, particularly 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.119 when it comes to parents and advocates who want to 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.480 do the best for children suffering from gender. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.800 Distress, the science needs to be rigorous. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:24.680 But we know this. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:25.880 This is why we need to have an. 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.120 Inquiry because we know what gender clinics are putting out 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.480 there has a lack of scientific basis. 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:36.199 Oh and this again has been known for several years. 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:43.199 I call researchers and activists in Scandinavia, those who are 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:47.439 actually advocating for people to be able to change genders. 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:52.440 Even they were saying that this link between suicide is 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:56.480 absolutely false and misleading and then it should not be 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.800 used as an argument to try to convince people. 0:19:58.840 --> 0:19:59.800 And that was years ago. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.800 I can't believe again how far Australia is behind when 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.280 it comes to this debate. Before you go, I want 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.680 to play some footage. This is from the US from 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:14.520 Luciam Unified District School. This is a school board meeting 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.560 in California. Listen to this high school student. This young 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:24.080 girl breakdown in tears as she recounts having a biological 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:28.280 male who identifies as female, watching her undress in the 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:29.119 change room. 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:31.960 And listen to how the board responded. 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.840 Recently, I went into the women's locker room to change 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.879 for practice, where I saw at the end of my 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.000 row a biological male watching not only myself but the 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:42.400 other young women undressed. 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:42.480 It. 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.960 It's like yourself made me and my parents feel like 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.080 her own wasn't violid. 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:51.280 Even though okay was and still it's being completely violated. 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:58.280 Okay, please wrap it up, Please wrap it up, not 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:02.800 follow up questions, not comforting that poor girl. And I 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.159 can't believe that we are doing this to young women, 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:10.840 that poor girl being needlessly traumatized. 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.240 In the name of inclusion and tolerance. 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.679