1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: On scyn Lives Ostrodia. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. Coming 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 3: up tonight, the crime rate becomes an election issue as 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 3: poll's open for early voting. 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 4: Patrick Carlin will be with me shortly. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 3: A high school student pleads with adults to protect her 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: from males identifying as females from accessing girls' locker rooms. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: I'll speak to Stefan Bastin about that and much more. 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: Kosha Gata will be here with the latest from the US, 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: and later in the hour, the always hilarious Alex Stein 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: will join me with his campaign to end the deportation 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: of pot latinas I'm serious and left he's losing it. 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 4: Features this young lady. 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 5: There's one thing that they'll never be able to take 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 5: from me, and that's who I am. I'm a trans 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 5: woman and I'm proud now. 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: Over the weekend, it was confirmed that Daniel Andrews decision 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: to force millions of Melbournians to live under an eight 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: pm to five am curfew during the COVID nineteen era 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: was not based on medical advice. After explosive documents were 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: finally made public, former chure Health Officer Bret Sutton and 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: then Public Health Commander Finn Romaines exchange emails of the 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: time showing that although it had not been proposed by 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: health experts, Sutton did ultimately submit to the direction of 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: the Victorian government and supported the move. Joining me now 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: for more on this is News Corps senior writer Patrick 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: Carly and Patrick this was a captain's call, and so 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: many in this state, from the bureaucrats, the health bureaucrats 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: to members of the media, failed to question this extraordinary move. 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: I remember I was one of the very few. 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: He was aghast by what was happening, and the response 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: was overwhelmingly that of support from just about everyone here. 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: You would expect to stay sep forward and question something 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: as astonishing as forcing people to stay within their homes 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: after eight pm. 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 6: That's right, Look, it's triggering just talking about this. It's 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 6: almost almost been five years. And the fact was, at 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 6: the time of the curfew is being introduced, no other 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 6: city in the world, as far as I can remember, 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 6: was having curfews. There was no push for them anywhere 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 6: else in Australia, certainly to the extent of Victoria. And 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 6: it was plain almost from the get go that this 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 6: was a political decision. I think Dan Andrews made some 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 6: reference to making it easier for the police force to 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 6: enforce the silly rules. 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: As they were at that time. 48 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 6: It had no It is an absolute travesty of justice 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 6: that this was allowed to pass the way that you were. 50 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: All these human rights activists, the Human Rights Commission. Where 51 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: were all these bodies that we set up that we 52 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: support with our tax dollars, that are actually supposed to 53 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: step forward and say no to this sort of overreach, 54 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 3: this sort of. 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 4: Dictatorship. 56 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: Really the premiere just deciding on his own with his 57 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: little It wasn't even a cabinet decision. It was the 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: premier's captain's callwell to impose a curfew. I mean that 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: the man must have been on some sort of amazing 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: power trip. 61 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: Imagine that. 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 3: Imagine a premier saying, millions of people in my state, 63 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: you're staying home, you're not allowed to leave. 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 6: Well, it's described as cowboy behavior, and you look at 65 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 6: it now in the cold light of day, and you say, 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 6: what the hell was that we had protests? I mean, 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 6: he was picking and choosing which protests were allowable. 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: You had black lives matter in the middle of it. 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 6: Then you had the anti lockdown protesters treated very harshly authorities. 70 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 6: Public health became this sort of give or take thing 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 6: according to the politics of the day, in such a 72 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 6: protracted and strident way. 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it really is, really is an. 74 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 6: Indictment on Victoria's history that these things were allowed to happen. 75 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: Now to the death of Pope Francis yesterday, and there 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: is already great speculation who will be the next pope. 77 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: Only cardinals who are the second highest ranking members of 78 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: the church will be able to vote, and a number 79 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: of front runners have already emerged. One of those is 80 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: a Korean diplomat and the Vatican Secretary of State, Pietro Palyn, 81 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: the second most senior churchman in the Vatican, and Hungarian 82 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: Cardinal Peter Edo is another one who's favored by Minnie 83 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: Patrick to be fairly conservative in his Outlooker, tell me 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 3: about how you see the reign of Pope Francis and 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: how the next Pope would hope to shape the Catholic Church. 86 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: You would say that it's undergone some significant changes under 87 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: the rule of Pope France's rule may not be in 88 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: the right word He was an interesting figure in that 89 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: I heard a lot of Catholics who are unhappy with 90 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: him as pope and some of the things he was 91 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: choosing to advocate for and some of the things he 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: was choosing to ignore. But he did have also great 93 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 3: support from non Catholics. 94 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: That's right. 95 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 6: Look, he had an activist streak if you like that. 96 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 6: That was unlike any other pope. He was against pollution, 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 6: he was against you know, he was very strong on 98 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 6: climate change. He got in a bit of a fight 99 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 6: with JdE Vance I think at one point about America's 100 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 6: immigration rules. That was all very unpope like, if that's 101 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 6: the word. And at the same time he sort of 102 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 6: he failed to satisfy either of the conservatives, who's never 103 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 6: going to please, But he didn't please the progressive within 104 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 6: the church. Now these are relative terms. I mean, when 105 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 6: you say progressive in the Catholic Church, you'd probably throw 106 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 6: it back to about one hundred years before, where society progressive. 107 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: But he had the net efect because he did have 108 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: He did have audiences with members of the trans community 109 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: on a regular basis. He was very much outspoken, like 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: you said, about climate change. He got involved in issues 111 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: like the deportation program of certain countries. But then there 112 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: was criticism that he wasn't outspoken enough when he came 113 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: to the persecution of Christians, particularly a number of African 114 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: countries NAT countries in the Middle East, where you would 115 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: expect the pope to be really at the forefront of 116 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: that fight. 117 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 6: That's right, And look, he's very quiet on the church 118 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 6: and the sex abuse stuff that's internationally happened. He really 119 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 6: didn't stand up on that at all. You still have 120 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 6: the impression that the church is busy protecting itself at 121 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 6: the expense of protecting its victims. 122 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: And so he was a mixed bag in that sense. 123 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: He was quick to. 124 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 6: Smile, he had a light way about him. He certainly 125 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 6: internationalized the church in a lot of ways. A lot 126 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 6: of those cardinals who will vote on the next pope 127 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 6: barely know each other because they're all from they're far 128 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 6: flung from all over the world. So it's a real 129 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 6: it's a real guest to who the next pope will be. 130 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 6: Perhaps what I would say is he'll be a crusty 131 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 6: old man, perhaps with not a lot of life experience 132 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 6: in some ways, just like every other pote But it'll 133 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 6: be interesting. 134 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: Now to the sentence of AFL star Noah Bolter. The 135 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: Richmond defender was sped jail today, but he has a 136 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: criminal conviction patrick for assaulting a man in December. Is 137 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: also received a community corrections order which includes eight ten 138 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: pm curfew. How is this going to work? Because he 139 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: can't travel to state, he can't play night games exactly. 140 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: How the Tiger's going to handle this? 141 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: They've got a big Blockbuster game coming up and Zach 142 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: Day Eve this Thursday. 143 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: Will he be participating. 144 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: At this point? You'd think not. 145 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 6: I imagine the club will be running around like man trying 146 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 6: to trying to change his curfew. 147 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: Curfews aren't good. Look, it's an interesting one. 148 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 6: It's become such a a public talking point, this whole discussion. 149 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 6: Should he be banned from playing football? Should the premiere 150 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 6: be jumping in and giving her two cents worth on it? Look, 151 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 6: I don't know how to cur if you will play out? 152 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 6: That makes it very interesting. 153 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: It certainly does, because presumably he can play a Saturday 154 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: afternoon game. But are they going to keep him on 155 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: the list if he can play the occasional game. 156 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: It's a bit harder. You have to be tucked up 157 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: in bed at ten tenth year. I don't know. 158 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to see if there's going 159 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 3: to be any flexibility and whether that will be seen 160 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: as preferential treatment for someone who's obviously a star of 161 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 3: the AFL. They mentioned the premiere. She's certainly got involved 162 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 3: in this drama. She made these comments before he was sentenced. 163 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: It's up to Richmond Football Club to explain why they've 164 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: made this football decision as parents around the country are 165 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: going to sit down with their kids and watch the 166 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: footy this weekend and trying to explain to their kids 167 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: why this behavior is wrong and dangerous. 168 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: So she was very upset there that Richmond were playing him. 169 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: Now that saw former Richmond coach and current Gold Coast 170 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 3: Sons coach Damien Hardwick hit back at the premiere. 171 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, once again, he got a suspension through Richmond, through 172 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 7: the AFL at a four week penalty. End of the day, 173 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 7: got a pre premier that put her nose in someone 174 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 7: else's business. She should just concentrate on getting the state 175 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 7: run and well, absolute mockery of her making comments with 176 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 7: regard to that. 177 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: But ind of the day, he's played guilty. He understands 178 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: that he's going to copy fairwack Patrick. 179 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: My god, it's a bit of a drama, this one. Now, 180 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: what do you make of all that? I guess the 181 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: point that Damion Hardwick was making there is that the 182 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: Victorian premiere, the Victorian government is notorious for being soft 183 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: on crime. The crime crisis in this state is a 184 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: significant issue. 185 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: So why should we choose to weigh in on this? 186 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: Seems to be Well, she's opened herself up for this 187 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 3: sort of criticism. 188 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 6: Look, I'm guessing there must have mention bad economic news 189 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 6: last on the day that she was saying that, because 190 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: it's the great distraction, isn't it? Everyone's been talking about it. 191 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 6: Should she shouldn't she have? Hardwiks jumped in on it. 192 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 6: It's produced so many words and newspapers and so much commentary. 193 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: Look, you're a Richmond man. I'm actually the next We 194 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: should be upfront with that. So everything you're saying is 195 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: colored by. 196 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 6: Bold had a fracking game on Saturday night and a 197 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 6: great win. 198 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: That's two this year. 199 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 6: Look at the hard one and if you compare it 200 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 6: to there's going to be six eight ten across nrl 201 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 6: AFL cases of players who have been charged with being violent. 202 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 6: I mean this one is probably at the lower end. 203 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 6: The footage is dreadful. 204 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: The footage is pretty bad. 205 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 3: I mean, this is the thing. Some of those offenses 206 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: were caught on video, but this was. 207 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 4: Caught on video. 208 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: So it does make a bigger. 209 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: It does, and you watch that footage, it's pretty confronting. 210 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: Before you go, we're talking about crime. 211 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: The latest one of the campaign trap hitter Darton has 212 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: been talking about Australia's deepening crime crisis. 213 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 8: There's obviously real concern and certainly it's not just here 214 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 8: in Victoria either And talking to a colleague in Wa 215 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 8: the other day outdoor knocking, it was a singular biggest 216 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 8: issue that was raised. People just worried about crime in 217 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 8: their own neighborhood and that is the case in New 218 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 8: South Wales and in my state of Coinslone and elsewhere. 219 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: That's the reality, singular biggest issue being raised. We hear 220 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: so much about cost of living, of course that's the 221 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: top issue, but crime is very much an issue. It's 222 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: seen as a state issue. But what can the federal 223 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: government do about that? And should Peter Dutton lean into 224 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,479 Speaker 3: this issue because it's one where he has an advantage 225 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 3: over an alpen easy Additionally, Coalition is seen as harder 226 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: on crime than labor. 227 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: And he used to be a police officer, of course. 228 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 6: And look there was a poll I think back in 229 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 6: January that showed the climate change as an important issue 230 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 6: dropped off safety. Public anxiety about safety had gone up 231 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 6: ten percent or something like a massive amount. I don't 232 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 6: think it's about I don't think you're going to lose 233 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 6: any votes by doing this, are you? And it does 234 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 6: actually in places like Victoria, it does tap into that 235 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 6: sense that the state government has been so weak on 236 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 6: crime that we are actually in jeopardy in our own homes. 237 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 6: It is something that can be exploited. I don't think 238 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 6: it's going to lose any votes. It'll be interesting to 239 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 6: see how it plays out and whether label will actually 240 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 6: sort of respond to it in a meaningful way. 241 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: At your Carlyon, thanks for you time tonight. 242 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: Joining me now is the head of advocacy at Women's 243 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: Forum Australia, Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie, let's start with the local 244 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: response to the landmark court verdict in the UK which 245 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: rule that a woman is a biological female who knew. 246 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: Australia's Sex Discrimination Commissioner and a Cody. 247 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: This is her response. 248 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: She said, trans and gender diverse people are a vital 249 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: part of our community and this moment reminds us that 250 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 3: we must continue to advocate for the full enjoyment of 251 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,479 Speaker 3: human rights for all in our communities here in Australia, 252 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: not retreat from it. The laws in the UK are 253 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: not the laws of Australia. Our laws should reflect inclusion, 254 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: respect and the right of all people to live with dignity. 255 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: Stephanie, dear me, she doesn't get it, does she? No? 256 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 9: Well, Anacoda is an active disappointment by the current Labor government, 257 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 9: but she is so far removed from the scope of 258 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 9: her role. The purpose of the Sex Discrimination Commissioner is 259 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 9: to advocate for women and their sex based rights in 260 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 9: line with the Sex Discrimination Act which was implemented with 261 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 9: SEED or the International Convention to Protect Women's. 262 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 10: Sex Based Rights. And if you have a look. 263 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 9: At the Equalities Commissioner in the UK in comparison to Anacody, 264 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 9: they recognized there was a conflict between women's sex base 265 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 9: rights and what men who identified as women were demanding, 266 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 9: and so they actually asked the courts to make a 267 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 9: ruling so they could provide clarity within their scope. She's 268 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 9: not interested. She has done very little to advocate for 269 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 9: women at all. She said nothing about the fact that 270 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 9: there are male sex offenders being housed in female prisons. 271 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 10: And I think that. 272 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 9: She really makes the case as to why these commissions 273 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 9: should be abolished. 274 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 10: They're not fit for purpose. 275 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: And not fit for purpose. 276 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: It's almost they're comically working against the purpose if your 277 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: purpose is to be protecting the rights of women. Also 278 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: really disappointing was the response from the opposition leader Peter Darton. 279 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 11: Let's have a listen in light of this ruling, what 280 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 11: is your definition of a woman? 281 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 8: Well, that's a matter obviously, it's been before the British courts. 282 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 8: I haven't seen the detail of the case and it's 283 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 8: not something that I think his front of mine's at 284 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 8: this election. 285 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: Stephanie see to dodge the question there, But it was 286 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: a long ago, just during the last election campaign, where 287 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: Anthony Albanesi was asked the question what is a woman? 288 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 3: He didn't treat it as a gotcha question. He gave 289 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: a very simple definition. 290 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 11: What is a woman? 291 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 4: Prime Minister? An adult female? 292 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: How difficult was that to answer? 293 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: Not too hard, Stephanie. 294 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: Have we actually regressed as the rest of the world 295 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: has opened its eyes in this debate and we actually 296 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: got backwards in this country. We've now got the conservative 297 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: alternative dodging the question. When Anthony Albanzi was very comfortable 298 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: a few years ago saying a woman is an adult female. 299 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 9: I thought Peter Dutton's response was extremely disappointing. 300 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 10: He knows better. 301 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 9: He's got strong advocates within his party, particularly Claire Chandra 302 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 9: and the like, who have been very strong on this issue, 303 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 9: and I think his answer there indicates that he wants 304 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 9: to be Prime minister more than he wants to lead. 305 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 9: There is nothing to lose by standing strong on this 306 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 9: issue and by advocating for women's sex base rights. 307 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 10: Women are calling for some leadership on this issue. We 308 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 10: hear from. 309 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 9: Mums and girls at school all the time who really. 310 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 10: Wants some clarity on this and if. 311 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 9: He were to bring a policy to the election and 312 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 9: to lead on this issue, they would have a stronger 313 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 9: voice in this country too, because at the moment, if 314 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 9: you're the opposition leader and you want to be Prime 315 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 9: Minister and you can't take a position on this, what 316 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 9: chance does any other person who wants to hold their 317 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 9: job and be involved in their community. 318 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: Have Yeah, you make an excellent point, But he does 319 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: have people within his party, Stephanie, who have been weak 320 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: on this issue. When these bills have come up in 321 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: the Senate, there's a number of senators who vote with 322 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: Labor and the Greens to defeat these bills. So is 323 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: there a bit of a crisis within the Liberal Party 324 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: when it comes to this issue which should be simple. 325 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: It's an eighty twenty issue. 326 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: Eighty percent of the population is crying out for politicians 327 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: to represent their views. 328 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: Oh. 329 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 9: Absolutely, And I think there's a fear from the backlash 330 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 9: within the media. Many have talked about the you know, 331 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 9: Cathieves run and Wringa and the media backlash over her 332 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 9: position on women's rights to sex based sport. But I 333 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 9: think it's really unfair because the public are on site. 334 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 9: It's actually activists within the media and within our institutions 335 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 9: that are sort of pushing this whole transphobia line that 336 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 9: are stopping people from speaking out. So I think the 337 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 9: Liberal Party needs to get a backbone on this issue 338 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 9: and they need to lead and show some strengths. 339 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's an eighty twenty issue, and the media, the 340 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: activist class, the political class are all with the twenty percent. 341 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: You could even argue it's a ninety ten issue. Now 342 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: to reports that Queensland Children's Gender Servers has removed an 343 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: information leaflet for parents from their website which contained a 344 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: quote from a father of a ten year old trans boy, 345 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: and this is the quote. It said, the real concern 346 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: was the statistics on suicide. 347 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 4: I didn't want my son to be one. 348 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: So I supported him in the decisions ahead and the 349 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: informed him as best as possible Steph. The hospital decided 350 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: to include that even though the alleged links between refusing 351 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 3: to let your child transition medically or otherwise and suicide 352 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: is based on the FLIMSI activist research. 353 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 9: Well, if there was any scientific basis for that claim, 354 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 9: they wouldn't have removed at RITA. In fact, the evidence 355 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 9: is to the contrary. If kids aren't transitioned, the majority 356 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 9: of them overcome their gender dysphoria. 357 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 10: There was a study that. 358 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 9: Came out in the Oxford Journal for Sexual Health in 359 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 9: February this year. There are over one hundred thousand participants 360 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 9: of transgender patents in this cohort that found overwhelmingly the 361 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 9: mental health outcomes post transition, especially surgery is we're devastating, 362 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 9: including suicide, suicidal, idelation, substance abuse, deppression and anxiety. The 363 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 9: evidence is that the medical transition to treatments for these 364 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 9: vulnerable people is not helping them. And I think, particularly 365 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 9: when it comes to parents and advocates who want to 366 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 9: do the best for children suffering from gender. 367 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 10: Distress, the science needs to be rigorous. 368 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 12: But we know this. 369 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 10: This is why we need to have an. 370 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 9: Inquiry because we know what gender clinics are putting out 371 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 9: there has a lack of scientific basis. 372 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 3: Oh and this again has been known for several years. 373 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: I call researchers and activists in Scandinavia, those who are 374 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 3: actually advocating for people to be able to change genders. 375 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: Even they were saying that this link between suicide is 376 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: absolutely false and misleading and then it should not be 377 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: used as an argument to try to convince people. 378 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 4: And that was years ago. 379 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: I can't believe again how far Australia is behind when 380 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: it comes to this debate. Before you go, I want 381 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: to play some footage. This is from the US from 382 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: Luciam Unified District School. This is a school board meeting 383 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: in California. Listen to this high school student. This young 384 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: girl breakdown in tears as she recounts having a biological 385 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: male who identifies as female, watching her undress in the 386 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: change room. 387 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: And listen to how the board responded. 388 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 11: Recently, I went into the women's locker room to change 389 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 11: for practice, where I saw at the end of my 390 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 11: row a biological male watching not only myself but the 391 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 11: other young women undressed. 392 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: It. 393 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 5: It's like yourself made me and my parents feel like 394 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 5: her own wasn't violid. 395 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 13: Even though okay was and still it's being completely violated. 396 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: Okay, please wrap it up, Please wrap it up, not 397 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: follow up questions, not comforting that poor girl. And I 398 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 3: can't believe that we are doing this to young women, 399 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: that poor girl being needlessly traumatized. 400 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: In the name of inclusion and tolerance. 401 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 9: And you know, Rita, we're always being gas lit on 402 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 9: this issue. We're told it doesn't happen. Men don't go 403 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 9: in there, you know, to look at young girls or 404 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 9: to women changing. Yet the NHS nurses claim differently. Here 405 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 9: is yet another example. And I mean, I remember what 406 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 9: it was like to be a teenager. It's a confusing 407 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 9: time when you're going through puberty. To have this extra 408 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 9: pressure where you have to put up with biological males 409 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 9: looking at you or even just being in your private 410 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 9: space when you're trying to change is incredibly unfair. It's wrong, 411 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 9: and this is really where the the you know, the 412 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 9: UK judgment is so important because it brought clarity that 413 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 9: women's rights when they clash with the rights of you know, 414 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 9: transgender men that want to be women, that women's rights 415 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 9: under law should take president. 416 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 10: Men have their own spaces, women don't. 417 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 9: And what's really frustrating is it seems that in this 418 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 9: country we're waiting for incidences like this with girls complaining 419 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 9: or assaults to happen before we have a political leader 420 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 9: who will actually take charge and do something. 421 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: But one of the chances of girls coming forward when 422 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: they are attacked anytime somebody speaks that even when you 423 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: have detransitioners speak out in this country, people who have 424 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: gone through the process of changing their gender and they've 425 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: regretted that gone back and they speak out about their 426 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: experience to try to warn others. The attacks against them, 427 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: Stephanie are so fierce, so ugly, that you can understand 428 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: why most people choose to be silent. And what that 429 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: girl said there that really struck home was the adults 430 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 3: making them feel like their feelings, their discomfort or somehow 431 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: wrong that they should be okay with a young man 432 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: watching them undress because that young man says I'm a woman, 433 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: even though they know it's a man. 434 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 10: Absolutely, that happens in this country. 435 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 9: Caroline Marcus broke a story on a school last year 436 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 9: at Saint Hilda's in Perth, where female students were distressed 437 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 9: by the treatment of a transgendered male teacher and the 438 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 9: way he was making them feel with his activism in 439 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 9: the classroom. The parents came to Women's Forum Australia initially, 440 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 9: but they felt they could not come out publicly because 441 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 9: they didn't want to destroy their daughter's lives and they 442 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 9: also didn't want to, you know, upset their role in 443 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 9: the community because of the public pressure. There is no platform, 444 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 9: there's no way for these girls to have a voice 445 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 9: in this country, while the bureaucrats and our weak politicians 446 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 9: refused to stand up and do something about it and 447 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 9: provide them the safety to speak out. 448 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: Sephanie Bashian, thanks for your time tonight Still to come 449 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: a lefties losing ed class, a surge in lectures politically 450 00:23:53,560 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: motivated violence in the US Kosher Gator as the details. 451 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: You're watching the Rita Panny Show and it's time for 452 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: left He's losing it. Let's hear from teds sufferer and 453 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: quizzling Adam Kissinger, who spent four years crying about January. 454 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: Sixth, Remember him, Well, he's. 455 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 3: Now calling for Americans to take to the streets because 456 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: they are in unbelievably uncharted territory. I don't know about you, 457 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: but this all sounds a little bit insurrectiony to me. 458 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 11: Listen, we are in unbelievably uncharted territory here, and you 459 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 11: know we're approaching the point where I mean, I mean, honestly, 460 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 11: it's like we're all going to have take to the 461 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 11: streets or something. 462 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: Now to the Democrats' latest star, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, she 463 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: wants you to know that she is a serious lawmaker 464 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: and she's a black woman. 465 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 10: To nobody every day walk in the hall. 466 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 12: Regardless of whatever rhetoric the put out about me, I 467 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 12: am a very serious woman. 468 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: At the same time, exactly, n I'm pletely a black 469 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: woman at the same time. Why is she telling us 470 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: she's a black woman who can see that? 471 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 3: And why should that be contrasted against her being a 472 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: serious lawmaker. These Democrats are so race obsessed that sometimes 473 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 3: they inadvertently are racist against themselves. Now to the women 474 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: many Democrats want to see as a presidential candidate, Michelle Obama. 475 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 4: Here she is on her woefully low. 476 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: Rating podcast talking about how hard married life is. Well, 477 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: it is when you're married to Barak. 478 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 14: I think sometimes people who date don't realize that. You know, 479 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 14: in long term relationships, you're gonna you're gonna have deep, 480 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 14: deep dips, and you're gonna have to have a bad year. 481 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 14: You're gonna have a bad I tell people, and folks 482 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 14: think that this is horsh's You're gonna have a bad decade. Yeah, 483 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 14: you know. I mean I've been married to my husband 484 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 14: for thirty plus years. I mean the truth is, if 485 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 14: you add it all up, even the year, haven't If 486 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 14: the odds were you're going to be married to your 487 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 14: partner for fifty years and ten of those years could 488 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 14: be bad. You know that's you'd sign up for it. 489 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 14: You'd sign up for it. 490 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 4: No, thanks, Michelle. 491 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: A miserable decade, think I'll give that a pass. You know, 492 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: it's not the eighteen twenties. Anymore women can be single nowadays. 493 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 3: Let's see it from a couple of mask wearing transactivists. 494 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: Now one of them is hailing Satan while the other 495 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 3: is talking about love and tolerance and solidarity. 496 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 15: What I say, fear, really comfort, really really afraidable that. 497 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 16: You see true sellers you're afraid of. 498 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 6: You're a freedom solary, not craze. 499 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: She's cooling others. Crazy bliss and the elefties are turning 500 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: on each other. It seems even members of the. 501 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: LGBT QUIA plus plus community failed to be sufficiently sensitive 502 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: to pronoun preferences. 503 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 15: It is one thing to get missgendered by like straight 504 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 15: CIS people, but it is another thing going into a 505 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 15: queer space and getting nothing but miss gendered there. Like 506 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 15: that pisses me off so bad. I was at the 507 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 15: gay bar last night. The gay bar is always the 508 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 15: scene at the crime okay, And I'm in line waiting 509 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 15: for the bathroom, and like there's staws and there's journals right, 510 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 15: and like anybody that's using the Jurnal, I just let 511 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 15: them go in front of me. And then I'm waiting 512 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 15: for a stall and some guy comes out and he's like, 513 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 15: he says something about the journals and he was like, oh, 514 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 15: you're waiting for the stall and I was like, yes, 515 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 15: I am, and he was like, and that is a 516 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 15: woman's right. What gave him the audacity to say that? 517 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: To me? 518 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: Here is a mother who climbs that hooch. 519 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: Kyle told her the age of eighteen months that they're trans. 520 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: They've been trans since birth. 521 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 17: What age do you think most trans kids determine that 522 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 17: they're transh. 523 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 12: Violent told us when she was one and a half. 524 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 17: She's been telling us since she could speak, so she 525 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 17: knew since birth. 526 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: And while we're on this issue, there's been more fallout 527 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: from the UK Supreme Court decision last week, the unanimous 528 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: landmark ruling that defines what a woman is and guess what, 529 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: it's an adult female. As we've always told you, it's 530 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: a biological female. They have to be born, they can't 531 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: be made. But not everyone is taking the decision. 532 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 5: Well, you've probably heard about this Supreme Court's ruling on 533 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 5: the definition of the word woman. This will have some 534 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 5: real serious implications. It will have some consequences. But I 535 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 5: want to tell you one thing. They can make their laws, 536 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 5: they can specify their definitions. They could take away my 537 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 5: rights but there's one thing that they'll never be able 538 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 5: to take from me, and that's who I am. I'm 539 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 5: a trans woman and I'm proud, and they'll never be 540 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 5: able to take that from me. 541 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: And this next leftist feminist claims this victory for women's 542 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: rights is in fact a victory for the patriarchy. This 543 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: old fool seems to think that women who are well 544 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: built or who have short hair will be mistaken for 545 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: men and will have to. 546 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: Prove their woman who had Seriously, that's the argument. Have 547 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 4: a listen. 548 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 13: Please stop talking about this court decision that was made 549 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 13: yesterday about the definition of what a woman is as 550 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 13: and framing it within a victory for a feminist context. 551 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 14: It is not. 552 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 13: Those people are like leftovers from the nineteen eighties. They 553 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 13: are exclusionary feminists. They are nothing to do with a 554 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 13: modern feminist movement. And this is absolutely not a victory 555 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 13: for women's rights. 556 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 15: What you have done. 557 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: You know, we now all have to. 558 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 13: Prove that we are women in order to get the 559 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 13: services that we most feel most comfortable in. Technically, I 560 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 13: will have to prove that I am a woman to 561 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 13: be able to be searched by a female officer. If 562 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 13: I'm arrested by the police. I mean, you could say, well, 563 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 13: you look like a woman, and you sound like a woman, 564 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 13: but so do a lot of my trans female friends. 565 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 13: What about my friends who have got polycystic ovary syndrome 566 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 13: and are a little bit hairy about the face. What 567 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 13: about my friends who are quite tall and well built 568 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 13: with square jaws and look a little bit masculine? What 569 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 13: about them? This is not a victory for women's rights. 570 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 13: This is a victory for the patriarchy. 571 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 18: Yep. 572 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: That's the argument. That's how desperate and he logical they're getting. 573 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: That's what they think is a winning argument in this debate. Now, 574 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: let's go to the US and a heartbreaking case of 575 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: senseless violence and a broken justice system. Comelo Anthony stepped 576 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: it with a seventeen year old boy, Austin med Cuff, 577 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: at a track meet in Frisco, Texas. 578 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 4: Austin died in his twin brothers arms. 579 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: Afterwards, we had the vile spectacle of people defending this 580 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: team killer. People raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for him. 581 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: He walked free from jail on April fourteen, after his 582 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: bond was reduced from one million to two hundred and 583 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: fifty thousand, and since then, his family and his representatives 584 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: have played the victim. Here, a representative, Dominique Alexander attacks 585 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: Austin Metcalf's father, the victim's father, Jeff, for attending a 586 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 3: press conference held by the Anthony family. 587 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 19: That was disrespectful and just shows you all. 588 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: The character who was not invited. 589 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 19: He knows that is inappropriate to be near this family, 590 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 19: but he did it. And so I say to people, 591 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 19: actions speak louder than words. 592 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: Yes, the grieving father being there is apparently a disrespect 593 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: to the dignity of his son. The father was asked 594 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: to leave and guess what he left. He didn't stab 595 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 3: anyone because he was asked to leave. Now this press conference, 596 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: we also heard from the accused mother. 597 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 15: The lives and false accusations that have been said about us, 598 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 15: especially over the past week, has been overwhelming. 599 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: And then we were back to Dominic Alexander, the family's representative, 600 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: blaming the school for wanting to expel this thug, and then. 601 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 4: He unbelievably blamed the weather for what happened that day. 602 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 19: Frisco ISD has notified of their intent to expel Carmelo 603 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 19: Anthony from school. One month before his high school graduation. 604 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 19: That just shows me that Frisco ISD is trying to 605 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 19: push off the blame. And what I have not heard 606 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 19: the media say as many media outlets have as does 607 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 19: what went on. I'm trying to find how many of 608 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 19: y'all have asked a superintendent on one single border, Trustee, 609 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 19: why didn't you counsel or postpone with weather in that magnitude? 610 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 19: You couldn't have a track meet in rain or thunderstorm 611 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 19: or clouds. 612 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: Y'all? 613 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 19: Are the media as your journalists, your weather journalists, how 614 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 19: the weather was that day in that time? 615 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: Y'all do that research? 616 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 3: Joining me now, as kan used contributor Kosha Gaida Kosha, 617 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: this case is incredible. If the races were reversed here, 618 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: I think the media coverage would be dramatically different. And 619 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 3: the manner in which Carmelo Anthony's family is playing the victim, 620 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: raising money, holding press conferences, I mean that's quite incredible 621 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: as well. 622 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: It really is. 623 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 20: I mean it's so brazen. This whole flipping of victimhood 624 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 20: and the culture has just turned into this victim motals 625 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 20: and now you're seeing it in its worst possible place. 626 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 20: When you've got this senseless, depraved, heinous aft murder that 627 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 20: was conducted, and even that's been wrapped up along racial lines, 628 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 20: which has nothing to do with it. The spokesperson, Dominice 629 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 20: Alexander that they hired he himself as a criminal record. 630 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 20: He's a convicted felon from twenty eleven. He's out there 631 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 20: with some nerve saying the things that he said, kicking 632 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 20: out the father and then the mother, wrapping all of 633 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 20: that up again, no awareness at all or even acknowledgment 634 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 20: of what the actual victims family is going through. It's 635 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 20: beyond me. I thought most things won't shock me anymore, 636 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 20: but this one shocks me too. 637 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 7: Me. 638 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 3: It really just shows a sickness that exists in America 639 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: right now with those who are just race obsessed and 640 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: they want to look through look at this through a 641 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 3: racial filter, and they just cannot cope with the fact 642 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 3: that the victim here happened to be white, the aggressor 643 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 3: happened to be black. 644 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 4: That shouldn't be the issue. Should be the fact there. 645 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: Is a teenage boy who's dead, who died in his 646 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: twin brother's arm, and he's forgotten whilst the victim is 647 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: being lionized and hundreds of thousands of dollars being raised 648 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: for him. Now to more leftists lawlessness, and one of 649 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 3: Tim Walls's state employees stands accused of causing around twenty 650 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: thousand dollars in damage vandalizing Tesla's Here he is film 651 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: looks like he's keying cars. 652 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 5: There. 653 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 3: There is ample footage of these alleged incidents. Dylan Bryan 654 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 3: Adams is a fiscal policy analyst, a Minnesota state employee. 655 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: He's been arrested Kosher And this comes just a few 656 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: weeks after we heard Tim Walls, the failed vice presidential candidate, 657 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 3: mocking Tesla's share price falling, attacking Elon Musk repeatedly, and 658 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 3: to see these acts across the country, people going around 659 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 3: vandalizing cars belonging to individuals, not just I'm not advocating 660 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: for attacking dealerships, but when you're actually attacking the per 661 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,959 Speaker 3: property of someone, I mean, really, Again, we talked about 662 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 3: sickness that exists. 663 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: This is another example of it. 664 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 20: It is another example, and I think the meta point 665 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 20: is that the consequences are just too soft and too 666 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 20: weak in culture in general, decriminalization, selective outrage, letting certain 667 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 20: people off the hook, based on where they fall. In 668 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 20: this case, this policy analyst did get arrested, as you mentioned, 669 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 20: So there are some consequences which are necessary to have 670 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 20: to terms. But unless and until we see that much 671 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 20: more strongly, unfortunately, I think these acts are only going 672 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 20: to continue because people either they can skirt some sort 673 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 20: of punishment, or even further, they're actually glorified by a 674 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 20: portion of the left and so they want to do 675 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 20: these kinds of things. 676 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we've had a lot of Democrat politicians refusing to 677 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 3: disavow this sort of violence, and the left has become 678 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 3: increasingly activist and violent in its behavior. We saw that 679 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 3: throughout the BLM rights around two billion dollars worth of damage, 680 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 3: very few consequences and arrest. You compare that to say, 681 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: what happened on January sixth and people being in solitary 682 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 3: confinement for months. How do you see this issue and 683 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 3: how it separates America? Because when people talk about two Americas, 684 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: I think this is really central to that issue, where 685 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 3: people have lost faith in those institutions, They've lost faith 686 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 3: in the fact that they're going to have equal justice 687 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 3: under the law. 688 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 20: I know it really does show that to America. The 689 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 20: divorce symbolically that's happening gets much more hitting you in 690 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 20: your home on the streets when it comes down to 691 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 20: crime and the actual criminal justice system being fair or not. 692 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 20: And when we look at all these cases, whether it's 693 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 20: Carl Writtenhouse or Daniel Penny, and all of those, you 694 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 20: could see how had they been tried somewhere else. Carl 695 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 20: written House, certainly in a different jury in a different state, 696 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 20: the outcome would have been different. Downiel Penny squeaked by 697 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 20: through a hair's breath. That is very, very scary to 698 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 20: a lot of people that if something God forbid where 699 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 20: to happen, and you find yourself in that situation, if 700 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 20: you live in the wrong jury pool, you can't trust 701 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 20: the system anymore. 702 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 3: Now, Pambondi, the Turney General, has said that she's going 703 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: to be treating these cases like domestic terrorism. They're politically 704 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 3: motivated acts of violence, so they fit the definition of terrorism. 705 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 3: Will that diswade some of these people from acting out, 706 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: because I think part of the reason why we've seen 707 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 3: this increasing violence is because they watch those BLM rights, 708 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 3: they watch those Antifa riots, and really not much happened 709 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 3: to those who were guilty of causing enormous damage. 710 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 20: Yeah, and that's the learned behavior. I do think if 711 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 20: you make one or two examples of people within the law, 712 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 20: it often and history shows us at will serve as 713 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 20: a deterrened Whether you look at illegal immigration, different issue, 714 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 20: but that sending plainloads of people over Tael Salvador is 715 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 20: a determ for people whon't want to be caught in 716 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 20: the net of this administration. And then domestically it's a 717 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 20: bit trickier in terms of what statutes can apply and 718 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 20: how far you can push them. But to the extent 719 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 20: of the law, the fullest extent of the law, if 720 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 20: you prosecute one, two, three of these folks in the 721 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 20: harshest terms that are legally available to I do think 722 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 20: it'll serve as a deterred. 723 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 3: I think that's part of the reason we're seeing the 724 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 3: illegal immigration crisis be resolved, because why would you come 725 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 3: across if you're going to be said back, if you're 726 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 3: going to be locked up, and if you're a criminal, 727 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 3: you could be sent to a mega prison in El Salvador. 728 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 3: Now the media is reporting that the Trump administration is 729 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 3: looking to replace Defense Secretary Peter Hegset, with reports claiming 730 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 3: that he shared classified information in a group chat with 731 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 3: his wife, brother, and lawyer. 732 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: Pick Hexeth was asked about this. This was his response. 733 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 21: You know what a big surprise that a bunch of 734 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 21: a few leakers get fired and suddenly a bunch of 735 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 21: hit pieces come out from the same media that pedaled 736 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 21: the Russia hopes won't get back their Pulitzers. 737 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 2: They got Pultus for a bunch of lies? What poltus 738 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 2: for a bunch of lies? 739 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 16: Un hoaxing time and time and time again, and as 740 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 16: they pedal those lives, no one ever calls them on it. 741 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: See, this is what the media does. They take anonymous 742 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 2: sources from disgruntled former. 743 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 16: Employees and then they try to slash and burn people 744 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 16: and ruin their reputations. 745 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: Not going to work with me because we're. 746 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 16: Changing the Defense department, putting the pedagon back in the 747 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 16: hands of war fighters, and anonymous smears from disgruntled former 748 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 16: employees on old news doesn't matter. 749 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 3: Now the leftist media, including in pr A, saying that 750 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 3: the Trump administration is looking to replace Pete Hegzeth, but 751 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: the President is backing his man. 752 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 10: This is what he had to say earlier as. 753 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 15: The who He's how much dysfunction. 754 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 2: Is Peach's doing a great job. Everybody's happy with them. 755 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 6: We have the highest recruitment group and numbers I think 756 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 6: they've had in twenty eight years. 757 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 20: No, he's doing a great job. 758 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 6: It's just speaking news. 759 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 20: They just bring up stories. 760 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: I guess it sounds like disgruntled employees. You know, he 761 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 2: was split there to get rid of a lot of 762 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: bad people, and that's what he's doing for So you 763 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 2: don't always have friends. 764 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 4: When you do that, you sack a lot of people, 765 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 4: You create a lot. 766 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 3: Of disgruntled, anonymous lakers. He has a point there. It 767 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 3: doesn't look like Hexit's job is in Jepardy there. 768 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 20: At least from that statement, it does not look Trump 769 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 20: is not afraid to fire people. He has done that. 770 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 20: He's famous for that. You fired people, called it chaos. 771 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 20: He's also not afraid to stick by people in the 772 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 20: wake of media onslaught or opposition onslot like this. The 773 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 20: example it comes to mind for me is Brett Kavanaugh. 774 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 20: Just as Kavanaugh on his confirmation hearing, he was under 775 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 20: enormous pressure from everybody and their mother to pull that nomination. 776 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 20: He did not, And I think he is tuned into 777 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 20: what he would call witch hunts against people that are 778 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 20: in there trying to enact his agenda and fighting back 779 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 20: against protective interests, protected interests that want them gone. And 780 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 20: I'm sure that's playing a part, and until he sees otherwise, 781 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 20: I think he will back his managers. 782 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 3: I think it almost makes him increases support for them 783 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 3: because he's faced that himself. He sees how unfairther the 784 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 3: media it has been to him, and when the media 785 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 3: piles on an individual, I think he gives them the 786 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt. I mean Amy Coney Barrett. Maybe 787 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 3: they should have been a bit more pressure to get 788 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 3: rid of her, because that seems to be one of 789 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 3: his bigger mistakes. He mentioned the recruitment numbers there just 790 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 3: before you go, we are saying record numbers wanting to 791 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 3: join the military, record numbers wanting to join the FBI. 792 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 3: That does seem to be a reinvigoration of those institutions 793 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 3: under the Trump presidency. 794 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 20: Which is huge, and that is ultimately the metric that 795 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 20: matters to Trump. He is there to do a job. 796 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 20: Recruitment was a big problem with the military from DEI 797 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 20: and firing people for not getting vaccinated and all those 798 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 20: things that they did. People didn't feel inspired to serve, 799 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 20: and this is meant to be the most lethal fighting 800 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 20: force in the history of the world. So it is 801 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 20: Hexad definitely is doing a good job in that regard, 802 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 20: and surely Trump is taking a look at that in 803 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 20: the context of everything else, and he's going to always 804 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 20: prioritize that because that's ultimately what it's about for him. 805 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 4: Koshagata, thank you for your time. 806 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 20: Pleasure. 807 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 3: So if you come Alex Stein's campaign to end the 808 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 3: deportation of cot Latina's, Yes, you'll be with. 809 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 4: Me after. 810 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 3: Welcome back, joining me nas, comedian and host of Primetime 811 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: with Alex Stein on Blaze TV. 812 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,760 Speaker 4: Alex, we have serious. 813 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 3: Issues to discuss, but let's start with your harassment of 814 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 3: the Trump Administration's borders. Are Tom Homan and you're campaign 815 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 3: to stop the deportation of big booty Latinas. 816 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 7: Can the big booty Latina stay, Yeah, Alex stin immigration plan. 817 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 18: Look it up, Big boody Latinas can stay protect big 818 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 18: boody Latina. See my favorite big booty Latina. 819 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 16: There's no big body Latinos getting reported, Alex seime plans to. 820 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 2: This. 821 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 3: Man is trying to do an important job Alex And 822 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 3: you know what I think you could do with a 823 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 3: spell in a mega prison in El Salvador. 824 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 4: I think he'll do you good. 825 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 18: No, Riata, I do not want to go to a 826 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 18: mega jail and al Savador. But see, you know it's funny. 827 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 18: You have just been a victim of the primetime Alexander 828 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 18: experience because that Rita is actually my producer, Jimmy, and 829 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 18: he's an even bigger idiot than me. For going out 830 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 18: there and yelling at Tom Holman. I mean, it's not 831 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 18: like I don't cause myself, and I've had you. 832 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 2: Own it, and in fact, you own it. 833 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 4: Alex it's your campaign. 834 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 3: Don't try to dodge responsibility and point the finger out 835 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 3: your poor employees, your underlings. 836 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 4: This is all you. 837 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 3: You started this, and now poor Tom holm And is 838 00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 3: trying to answer questions and being having question it's about 839 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 3: big booty Latina's post to him. 840 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 18: Alex, Well, Rita, and this is a serious thing because 841 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 18: my housekeeper Juanita, and if she was to get deported, I. 842 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 2: Would have no idea what to do. 843 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 18: I would literally be lost. So you know I don't 844 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 18: want everybody deported, if we're being honest. 845 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 4: No, no, let's let's let's save Juanita. 846 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 14: Uh. 847 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 3: Now, President Trump enjoyed Easter festivities with First Lady Milania, 848 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 3: and of course the Easter Bunny was there, and the 849 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 3: President was reminiscing about that infamous bunny handler incident with 850 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. 851 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:34,959 Speaker 4: Let's have a look. 852 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you remember the bunny with Joe Biden. 853 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 21: Remember you remember when the when the bunny took Joe 854 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 21: Biden out. 855 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 2: He's not gonna take He's not taking Trump anyway. 856 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 4: That was good. That was a beautiful moment when the 857 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 4: Boody saved Bill Baden Alex. He really is the funniest president. 858 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 3: He never misses the chance to remind everybody about the 859 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,959 Speaker 3: cognitive decline of his predecessor. 860 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 18: No, Donald Trump is the number one comedian in the 861 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 18: world right now. I mean, I don't believe anybody is 862 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 18: funnier than him. And when it comes to Easter, I'm 863 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 18: just happy that all of the people that are at 864 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 18: the egg roll this year kept their tops on, because 865 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 18: that wasn't the case under the Biden administration. There's a 866 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 18: lot there's a lot of people doing a lot of 867 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 18: weird stuff at their Easter celebration, which is obviously you know, 868 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 18: a Christian holiday, So I'm happy that Donald Trump is 869 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 18: actually showing respect for the holiday and not a mockery 870 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 18: like the Biden administration did. 871 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 4: Well. 872 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 3: Yes, the Trump White House declined the opportunity to make 873 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 3: it a trans Day of Awareness. 874 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 4: Celebration, so yeah, that was a wise move. 875 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 3: Indeed, Alex, the Democrats continue to travel to El Salvador 876 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 3: to advocate on behalf of an MS thirteen gang banger 877 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 3: deported to El Salvador. 878 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 4: Here is a Democrat. Max Frostban asked about this. 879 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 12: Why Congressman, are you an El Salvador. You are there 880 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 12: for an El Salvadorian man who was a resident illegally 881 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 12: of Maryland. You're a congressman from Florida. Why are you 882 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 12: in El Salvador. 883 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 17: Well, we're here because a man who had protected status 884 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 17: in Maryland, a Maryland man union member worker with a 885 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 17: citizen wife and beautiful children, was taken out of his 886 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 17: state and out of the United States and back over 887 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 17: here without due process. 888 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 3: He was an illegal immigrant from El Salvador. He's been 889 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 3: deported to El Salvador, and Alex he was not only 890 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 3: found to be a gang banger, but he was not 891 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 3: exactly a great husband. To that beautiful wife that the 892 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 3: Democrat politician referred to. 893 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 18: No reader, not very nice whatsoever. Criminal history. And you know, 894 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 18: I have to give kudos to Michael Strahan for actually 895 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 18: asking her that tough question about her husband's criminal past. 896 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 18: So listen, the Democrats have a serious problem when it 897 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 18: comes to picking their heroes. From George Floyd to this guy, 898 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 18: to Jesse's Smalllett to whoever it is, they can't find 899 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 18: a person to get behind. They always pick the worst 900 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 18: possible representation of their party. 901 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 4: They are just so stupid when it comes to this issue. 902 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 4: There's no other way to talk about it. 903 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 3: It is just a loser for them each and every time. 904 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 3: Alex Stein, thank you so much for your time tonight. 905 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 3: And that's it from May. 906 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 4: Up next is Newsnight. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow night.