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Speaker 1: Hi, I Boris and this is straight talk Tim and

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Speaker 1: young mate. Good haven't it for ages? Actually I saw

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Speaker 1: in March this year before the last one. Yeah, quick

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Speaker 1: quick had a quick interview then and we spoke earlier,

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Speaker 1: you know we and that was your obviously your first

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Speaker 1: fight coming off the previous twenty twenty four which wasn't

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Speaker 1: a great year for you, but you obviously brought yourself

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Speaker 1: back to where you want to be. Soon next month

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Speaker 1: you're going to be in the biggest boxing event of

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Speaker 1: the year with two world title fights on one card.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing, pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: Just announced the interim title as well for the other boys.

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Speaker 2: Three three times.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool. And this of course is for our listeners.

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Speaker 1: This fight will be available to watching start of the

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Speaker 1: twentye to July exclusively on main event via KO Sports subscription.

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Speaker 1: Now there's no subscription required to purchase the pay for

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Speaker 1: you and go for it. I'll be watching it. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: won't be able to go over that MGM to watch Tim.

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Speaker 1: I've always wanted Actually, that's one of the state I've

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Speaker 1: always wanted to be to go to, Like that's some

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Speaker 1: of the most famous fights in our history fought there

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Speaker 1: pretty amazing. Are you excited about this? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like dreams are made up from from these moments,

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Speaker 2: you know. So I'm fighting on the on the top

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Speaker 2: of the world stage. In they say that the modern

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Speaker 2: day are what are they called the Colisseum.

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Speaker 1: There is a Colisseum. It's a big moment and people

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Speaker 1: have been fighting there for a long time, like there's

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Speaker 1: been some extraordinarily famous fights there. But then again, you're

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Speaker 1: sitting here in our studio and you've probably just come

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Speaker 1: in from Rockdale? Is that where you're still training?

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Speaker 2: Is there?

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Speaker 1: So like it's quite interesting. You can come from something

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Speaker 1: very simple and humble like Rockdale where you train, and

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Speaker 1: I guess you've got the same training team that you've

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Speaker 1: always had. I don't mean you're spiring partners, but I

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Speaker 1: mean you're coaches, including family members. You're still probably manage

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Speaker 1: boy Gland and so nothing's really changed. You go from

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Speaker 1: something really quite humble, then the next thing on the

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Speaker 1: world stage. How do you manage that crap like that

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Speaker 1: must be that must I don't know that Does it

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Speaker 1: funk with your head a little bit? Or do you

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Speaker 1: just you just manage it?

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Speaker 2: At first, at first, it was sort of like a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a shock, I guess. But the longer

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Speaker 2: you're you're sort of in that in the position you

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Speaker 2: you sort of embrace it now and it's not as

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Speaker 2: much of a shock anymore. I just enjoy That's It's

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Speaker 2: honestly what I live for now, just those those thrills,

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Speaker 2: those moments to be at that very top.

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Speaker 1: It is that because you you're seeking the adrenaline rush

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Speaker 1: or you you want to put yourself back to where

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Speaker 1: you were.

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Speaker 2: No, I just it's it always reminds me of being

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Speaker 2: a young kid. You know, like as a young kid

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Speaker 2: I was, I was dreaming about these moments. I used

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Speaker 2: to like, I used to get a little soccer born.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling, like physically, no sort of injuries

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Speaker 1: or you know, physically good touch wood, Yeah, you're good.

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Speaker 1: It's only like what three weeks away, really, it's just

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Speaker 1: a little over three weeks just around the corner. Let's

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Speaker 1: just take me where take me to where you would

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Speaker 1: et cetera. You don't really have that much trouble with

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Speaker 1: weight your relative to other people. It's probably a better

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Speaker 1: on course in terms of weight management? Do you feel strong?

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Speaker 2: I feel I feel like I'm in a different, different

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Speaker 1: When do you put that down to discipline?

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Speaker 2: Discipline? Sometimes you have those mid midweeks and you eat

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Speaker 1: And does it have anything to do with your home life,

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Speaker 2: I'd say my last my last fight, I had a

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Speaker 2: So everything's going down slowly and home life is just

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Speaker 2: everything's just comfortable as well. Everything just makes sense.

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Speaker 1: And how long will you spending? It was obviously you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be Friday the fourth, so two.

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Speaker 1: Weeks, right, And what's the acclimation like the acclimatization process. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well I originally went for the presser press conference, and

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Speaker 2: it took me roughly two days to adapt. I was

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Speaker 2: decided to take it two weeks before. I think that's

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Speaker 2: plenty of time. I actually spoke to Alex Okanowski. He

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Speaker 2: guided my own way because I used to go two months,

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Speaker 2: three months before the fight. It's a long time to

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Speaker 2: spend away from home as well. You're living in a

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Speaker 2: what Volkowski does. That's what I am doing for this fight.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting you spoke to Volk you know, like he's

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Speaker 1: And he made a good comeback, he got his belt back.

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Speaker 1: I think, do you ever think to yourself how much

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Speaker 2: Cent Yeah, get that sense. I think we both embraced

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Speaker 1: But it's I mean, we're obviously gie advertisers, a brilliant

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Speaker 1: You sort of like a bit of a hero cold hero.

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Speaker 2: it's a great feeling.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, I interviewed lots of people, and funnily enough,

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Speaker 1: I'm very rarely doing it on a Friday. And when

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Speaker 2: Definitely more more comfortable, more comfortable in yourself. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: You're you're and I've spoken to your your team in

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Speaker 1: I think it's round four or something like that, and

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Speaker 1: then they all I've been told by many people that

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Speaker 1: Tim's side of dude, you're sort of a man on

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Speaker 2: Would be a problem as well.

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Speaker 1: Well then you're then, but you're very confident in yourself.

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Speaker 1: So preparing to fight someone like Fundor again, who's a

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Speaker 1: he's got like ten inch reach on you. You know,

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Speaker 1: He pinches nice and straight. So you know, your pressure

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Speaker 1: What do you do to prep for this? Now, no one,

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Speaker 1: you've already been through one route. I forget about their

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Speaker 1: You know you've been you know, swapping punches, you know

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. So it's because there's always seemed to me

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think identity. You want to

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Speaker 2: So that's why I really wanted to create the Timsus

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Speaker 1: And do you think you've done that at this point.

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Speaker 1: Do you discuss that with your dad? It's not something

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Speaker 2: My mom was like that. I think my mom was

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Speaker 1: You're not soft. No, video always don't have kids this, no, no,

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Speaker 1: But how's that going in relation to you? You're married

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Speaker 1: You've got things to do, you got stuff to do.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, I've just been boxing has just been my

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Speaker 2: When we're on next what are we doing? It's just

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Speaker 1: How old are you now?

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Speaker 2: Just turned thirty?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So, and what's your wife's name?

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Speaker 2: Alexandra?

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Speaker 1: the joint.

435
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there would be. Sure.

436
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 1: I mean it's because you know you're you were running.

437
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: We're definitely running around during your dad's period of being

438
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: a world title holder. Yeah, I mean I've seen I've

439
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: seen so many photographs and you on the stage standing

440
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: there with him, like and by the way, you look

441
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: exactly like him. But clearly you've got a bit of

442
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: your mother in you as well. You're better looking the

443
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: don't tell him, I'm telling him, but like your your future.

444
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 1: You know. Australians because I'm thinking this is very romantic.

445
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: I don't mean romantic and it loves it. I mean romanticizing.

446
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: But Australians would love to see a Tim Zuo with

447
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: Alexandra and his child standing there with a belt like

448
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: That's like that would make us so happy in Australia

449
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: and it sounds ridiculous on a national level. We think

450
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: those things are important. They really are, Tim like, they

451
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: are so important. I mean when Volt got his belt back, like,

452
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: Australia was so happy. Helps it. His good bloke, a

453
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: good person, a good Australian, respects his background but a

454
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: good Australian works hard trains hard accepted his defeat, went

455
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: back and start all over again and clawed it back.

456
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: And I think and when you see him in how

457
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: he's very much a family man. When you see him

458
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: and you see Tim, so I think there is a

459
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: to me, there's a massive connection between the two. And

460
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: you know we need we you know, unfortunately, we need

461
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: heroes in our world. For you, who's your hero? Yeah,

462
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: good question? Or you just or you're the person who's

463
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: destined to be the hero and you therefore don't have one.

464
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. Actually I'm not sure. I'm not sure

465
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: who my hero, who my hero is? Who I look

466
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: up to? I guess in all honesty, Volk is a big,

467
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: big inspiration. Do you talk to me much here and there?

468
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: Which sometimes shout through through social media and stuff?

469
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: But have you met up yet?

470
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, But but yeah, someone in terms of

471
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 2: how I'm living, there's there's not many people in that

472
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 2: top of industry i'd say that I look up to

473
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: except for Volk.

474
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: That's interesting, and he lives in Volk's lives all about fundamentals, cooking, family, loves,

475
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: going to the farms. Obviously, he loves his gym, he's

476
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: fight Jim, he's and he loves his craft. Do you

477
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 1: love your craft?

478
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: Boxing?

479
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: Yep.

480
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: I think I'm obsessed with it, you know. I think

481
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: it's just always always on, It's always on the mind,

482
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: and from a very young age, it's always it's always

483
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 2: been there.

484
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: So you're on the card with Pakia. What about someone

485
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: like him? Is he someone?

486
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: What is he?

487
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: Forty five six?

488
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not.

489
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: For history's pretty amazing. I don't know how many divisions

490
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: he's gone through seven six or seven something like that

491
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: and still there.

492
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, still fine for yeah, crazy, Well you know what,

493
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: like used to think, Oh wow, it's going to be

494
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: so crazy, like Manipak and the car blah blah blah

495
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: all that. Now it's like it's it's it's where you

496
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: feel most at home, you know, this is this is

497
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: where you belong.

498
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: You meant him at the Bressa Yeah, yeah, yeah, fanboy

499
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 3: or fan boy a little bit yea, yeah, yeah, did

500
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 3: a little bit. Yeah, you know I had sparring with him,

501
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 3: really yeah, I had sparring with him in twenty nineteen

502
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: in the Philippines.

503
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: Philippines, Yeah, I was. I was there for two weeks

504
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: in the Philippines.

505
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 1: I got invited and be apart partner for him.

506
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: Partner, Yeah, which was pretty cool. That was the first

507
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: time I met him.

508
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: And what period was that again, that's nineteen that's uh,

509
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: that's only five six years ago. When did you find yeah,

510
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: Winni fourth Thurmon. That wasn't the horn period? No, right, Yeah.

511
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: What was it like to spa Minipac?

512
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was It was interesting, It was cool. It

513
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 2: was I could see how busy he was there, how

514
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: he's loved by so many people, how many people rely

515
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: on him. It was insane. There was a job for everything,

516
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: you know, there was a there was some guy that

517
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: used to have a town used to just like get

518
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: rid of the flies while he was doing set up.

519
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: I was like, sounds like a pretty good job.

520
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: He's a pretty cool guy, like you know, to me,

521
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: he's one of the outstanding or standouts in the boxing world.

522
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: He's always maintained his integrity. He's given a lot back

523
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: to people in his country. He's like adored probably globally

524
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: he's adored. And he's actually become a politician, as you know.

525
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: And one days there he was thinking about and becoming

526
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: the president of the Philippines.

527
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: I think he just he just ran for him.

528
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: Something happened.

529
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: What happened?

530
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: I get there, But like, would Tim Zoho ever think

531
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: about doing something not politician, because he's giving back in

532
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: a big way. I mean, and he's obviously earned a

533
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: lot of money, like a lot of money a long

534
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: period of time, and he's probably in his country he'd

535
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: be extraordinarily wealthy. And therefore what you say is he

536
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: looks after people. And that sort of takes it back

537
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: to what you're talking about before. That's gratitude, that's and

538
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: the best way to show gratitude is give back, pay forward,

539
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: whether it's money or time effort. Do you sometimes ever

540
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: get the sense that, look, I wouldn't I go and

541
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: traveling to a hospital and checking in kids and do

542
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: you do that sort of stuff?

543
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: I haven't done it, but it's it's definitely been the

544
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: it's definitely been in the in the process of organizing

545
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: something like.

546
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: That on the radar, so to speak, because.

547
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: We've been wanting to do homeless really feeding the homeless.

548
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: I think it's it's a sad scenario here in Australia. Yeah,

549
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: around the world actually, and yeah, I think it's a

550
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: biggin act if you.

551
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to say if you, I'm backing

552
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: you to win the fight and I actually think that

553
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: you will wear the guy down and an out smart

554
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: amount strategy. Josh, I've seen your your fight smarts. They're

555
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: pretty good. You can prepare all the strategies, like you

556
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: have your tactics and all that sort of stuff prepared.

557
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: But how much different is it once you're in the rink.

558
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: You know, you can have a strategy and you can

559
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: have all your tax all your train You might train

560
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: with a six foot five left hander for the last

561
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: whatever a period of time. Isn't all of a sudden

562
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: you guess, hang on, it's not working ring smarts? Can

563
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: you talk to me about ring smarts? You know, like

564
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: what does Tim Zu do when he feels something? And

565
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: how how how hard is it to adjust make adjustments?

566
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: Taking away from when you're injured, I want to talking

567
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: about that, but just where you're going to get a

568
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: surprise about something, anything that's not working anymore, or they're

569
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: doing something to have to defend. How do you a

570
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: about it?

571
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: I think you have to find your base what works

572
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: at all times. If it's using your legs, if it's

573
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: just a little reset, you know. And in a fight,

574
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: there's there's always going to be scenarios at work, there's

575
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: always going to be scenarios that don't work. But there's

576
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: also got to be a neutral ground where you're where

577
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: you're just feeling sweet, just feeling yourself. Yeah, if it's

578
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: moving around, if it's throwing quick jabs, if it's throwing

579
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: speed or whatever it is, you just got to find

580
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: that base and be able to be switched on the

581
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: whole time, you know. And it's easy, easier said than done,

582
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: of course, But all we have to do is concentrate

583
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: for thirty six minutes.

584
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds easy, it's a long.

585
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: Time, a long time. You can't not concentrate for tens

586
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: for two seconds or it's going to get clipped. So

587
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: it's just the concentration at all times. And I think

588
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: during training you sort of feel when you lose concentration.

589
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: There's times where you throw a shot, you get a

590
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: bit tired, you're like a shit, you look left, you

591
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: look right, and bomb you get coped with another shot.

592
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: You know, your mind has to be non stop the

593
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: whole time in the game.

594
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: So I've always saw you as a bit of a

595
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: surgeon when you're fight, because you just tend to break

596
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: guys down pretty quickly in the first couple of rounds

597
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: and then you go after him that process of did

598
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: you just explain when you get tired, so when fatigue

599
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: sets in, maybe you could explain why it's so much

600
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: harder to make decisions when there's fatigue. I mean, we

601
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: see in ragul league all the time. We see really

602
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: good rugby league players who get fatigued to make wrong

603
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: decisions in terms of tackling, and you know they put

604
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: their head the wrong spot, they're out. And your favorite team,

605
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: the Rabbits, you have your back rower, your captain, he

606
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: does it a lot and wonderful player. Yeah, smart at hell,

607
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: knows technique, but all of a sudden he gets fatigued

608
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: and something happens because it does a lot of work,

609
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: you know. And Radley is the same with the Roosters.

610
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: He does the same thing. He gets fatigued. What do

611
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: you do when you start to feel for tea coming on?

612
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: Do you sort of can you use your ring craft

613
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: and just stay.

614
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: I think the biggest the biggest experience you learn from

615
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: from getting better in an experience in the ring is

616
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: being able to hide when you rest, being able to

617
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: hide when you're taking breaths, putting it, putting it all on,

618
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: sort of showing the showing the difference, you know, like

619
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: you can't bring a relentless style that's throwing four hundred,

620
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: five hundred punches each round and doing it over the

621
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: course of twelve rounds. You know, it's just humanly impossible.

622
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: As much as you train, it's going to burn you out,

623
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: you know. So it's just being able to find the race.

624
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: And I remember Floyd maybe he used to do it

625
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: when he was in the clinch. He used to take

626
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: a couple of deep breaths and used to be frustraight away. Know,

627
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: it's just about the recovery.

628
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean someone who was sort of probably the

629
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: closest that I've ever seen who could throw hundreds of

630
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: punches around it. It was finic, like probably the fittest

631
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: fighter ever though, but also crazy. Jeff Well, yeah, you

632
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: have to be sort of crazy to be out. You

633
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: have to have a sort of a crazy mind to

634
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: be like that. And he's like that and everything he does.

635
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: If he's sitting here now, he'd be he's punches, but

636
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: he'd be sort of interacting. You know, that's how he is.

637
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: But not many people can do that. And there's a

638
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: there's a skill that I've watched you do, Like I

639
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: don't know when you're doing, but I know you you

640
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: managed to recover. But it's they call it ringcraft, but

641
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: like you're able to you're not necessarily backing off, but

642
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: you're able to give yourself opportunity to sort of reset.

643
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's my My thing is when I'm in

644
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: front of someone, a lot of the time, they're under

645
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: the pressure, they're under the pump, and there's nothing coming

646
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: out of me, Like I'm standing there just making them tremble,

647
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: and that burns a lot of energy and from their

648
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: point of view, from their point of view, but from

649
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: my point of view, there's zero energy being wasted at all.

650
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: And I think that's probably one of my greatest skills

651
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: I have in boxing.

652
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: And it's probably pretty important as you're mature as a fighter,

653
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: is to understand your strengths. Probably also your weaknesses too,

654
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: but like it's really important to know what your strengths

655
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: are and to focus on those things. I mean, it

656
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: is a pretty big strength of yours because I mean,

657
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: you tend to you go the whole. You can go

658
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: the distance, and you can look pretty fresh towards the

659
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: end because and if they're starting to get a little

660
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: bit tie the legs, of course, that's when you come

661
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: in hard, You come in and take over. So I

662
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: mean often, you mean here, i'd say stupid things they go,

663
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'll knock him out in the fifth round

664
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: as all that sort of stuff. But you know that

665
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: you're going to have to go the distance with this

666
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: bloke because he's quite good. Course, you know, he's obviously

667
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: correct me so, but he's he's no bushover and and

668
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: but my gut feeling is that I'm feeling as this

669
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: is going to go the distance. And I mean last

670
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: time went the distance, and you know it was, you know,

671
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: a split decision, notwithstanding all your injuries. You must that

672
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: must actually give you confidence. Yeah, you know, you go

673
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: to the distance with him, Yeah, of course, and you

674
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: know you can copy punches.

675
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: I was saying before, he should have killed me the

676
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: first time, you know, like with all the disadvantages, Yeah,

677
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: he should he should have really should.

678
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: Have cleaned up earlyamp his mark. Yeah, you totally totally

679
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: if you win this fight, and I'm sure you're going

680
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: to win it. If you win this one, what's going

681
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: through your head? Are you thinking? Well? Who do I

682
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: fight next?

683
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: Is the problem? It's always there's there's.

684
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: The next We should you not think about it?

685
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be thinking about it, But you do, like

686
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: to a certain extent, Yeah, a certain extent.

687
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: Probably not right now anyway, definitely not now, but like

688
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: you dream about it.

689
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: Of course you envision stuff. And the thing with boxing

690
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: it sound predictable. You know, you don't know what's going

691
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 2: to happen, or what's around the corner, or what opportunities come.

692
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: It's it's it's crazy. Would you consider someone like Charlo Charlo? Yeah,

693
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: I mean he'd have to drop it back to the divisions.

694
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: He's one above you, isn't he. No, he's still in

695
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: the same divisions. So that's one sort of unfinished business. Yeah,

696
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: we were. I was in Vegas and we walked past

697
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: each other. Really, he's he was walking like he was

698
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: walking to his tape to his seat, and I didn't

699
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: notice him. And then I sort of noticed him, and

700
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: I see him he's not looking and I sort of

701
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: just like got ready. I was like, I don't know

702
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. But he's got his boys and

703
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: by myself with with with my manager. And then he

704
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 2: says hi to my manager and I was like, oh,

705
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: fair enough. And he looks at me and I was

706
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: like and he goes, congratulations what and he goes for

707
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: getting married and I was like, oh, thanks. He just

708
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: kept walking.

709
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh sweet, he's obviously following you on

710
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: social media.

711
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: It must have been.

712
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: Because it's I don't know, what's you know, like your

713
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: second fight last year, last year in twenty twenty four,

714
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: the name I always Mataro Liev. Would you consider him again? Yeah,

715
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: he's the IBF champion.

716
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: I would wouldn't do the rehydration clause, but no, tell

717
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: me through that reigation clause. So the day of the flight,

718
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: you have to weigh ten pounds. That's it, no more,

719
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: no more, yep.

720
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: So so I'm not Maybe I will say it. It's

721
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: he obviously cut the hell out of his weight, but

722
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: it must have rehiderated pretty hard. I'm sure because you

723
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: look much bigger.

724
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. I heard plenty of stories, but

725
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

726
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

727
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: So, so he made the weight in the morning, Yeah,

728
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: And I made the weight in the morning. As well,

729
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: So it's two two ways, but usually i'd put on

730
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: much more Tom, I wasn't able to.

731
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: What do you have any thoughts on that? Scientific thoughts.

732
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 2: It's the IBF and he caught me with the first punch,

733
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: and I think that's what that's all it was. I

734
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: had concussion straight away.

735
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you get the you buzzed brain, headache, everything, everything?

736
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

737
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that's hard after that.

738
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: And then I was just standing up like a zombie.

739
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So your whole neurological system sort of closes down,

740
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: your nervous system, so yeah, your brain does.

741
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: Not all constrained that nothing works everything.

742
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: And I was surprised you so because I saw the hit.

743
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: It well you know it looked like it heard like

744
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: not physically didn't hurt, no hit, but like its inside

745
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: your brain, that's what it was. Yeah. And what do

746
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: you do when you go when you go back and

747
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: you talk to your corner and I mean, what do

748
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: you say, like do they ask you how you feel

749
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: a mate like to come in? What? What what's the

750
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: process during during that round?

751
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what was happening.

752
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: You don't remember anything? Wow, No, it's just on instinct.

753
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in my head. I was like, you

754
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: want to get me out of here, You're gonna have

755
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: to kill me. Keep walking forward.

756
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: I remember when I interviewed you many years ago with Volk,

757
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: there was you, Vulcan, Brock and Gambosis. None of you

758
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: were world chambers at that stage. And one of the things,

759
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: this is maybe six seven years ago, I remember seeing

760
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: you fight down the Croatian Club. Might have been your

761
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: first profile. Was that your first profile was at the

762
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: Amateurs no themages there there. I remember maybe eighteen kid

763
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: and I remember seeing it and I went with Jeff

764
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: and I remember we're watching it. We're watching Balal Hackaway

765
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: and I remember and I think you must have been

766
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: on the same You might have been a pro am night.

767
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: You might have been yeah, yeah, And I looked at

768
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: you and made you had that sterely look in your eyes.

769
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: And then we interviewed you back on the My Mental

770
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: Show many years ago. I thought to myself, this kid's

771
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: a killer like you had none of this, none of that.

772
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: You were the business serious and you had that sort

773
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: of thought. My god, it's scary looking dude like this

774
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: kid you can do anything. And I did predict it

775
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: would be the world champion, and you did become obviously

776
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: became the world champion. Is there was in those days,

777
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: the younger days? Was that more Tim's front? Was that

778
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: Tim the younger blow?

779
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was just young, hungry and determined, and no

780
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: one else existed besides besides me and my career and

781
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: the trophy and the accolades. That's all that mattered. And

782
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 2: it's still like that to some extent.

783
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny how we grow up, but we actually

784
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: don't have the same perhaps the same ambition, the same ambition.

785
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: It's you have ambitioned, but it's not the same ambition,

786
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: not the same ambition driver. But you become better at

787
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: it because you become a different type of fighter. You

788
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: become like it's a it's no longer a game. Now

789
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: it's your life. This is my life, this is what

790
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: I do, this is what I'm good at. Do you

791
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: ever think to yourself, maybe I should become an architect,

792
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: or because I think your brothers is an architect, he's

793
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: an architect.

794
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's I think that's that was

795
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: the biggest problem that we had with my mom with

796
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: arguments was that even when I started my career and

797
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, you always need something to fall back on,

798
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: But I was like, I don't want to have anything

799
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: to fall back on. I just want to do this

800
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: to one hundred percent and go all in and see

801
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 2: see where we can go from there, you know, And

802
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: that's how it's been for me.

803
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: Can something like this provide for you and your family

804
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: future family for the rest of your life?

805
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: I think so it depends how you want to live,

806
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: of course.

807
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. If you Yeah, if you want to

808
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: live in a big flashboat, probably probably not. But but

809
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: you boxes can get paid a lot of money if

810
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: you at that, If you get to the level, you

811
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: can get paid a lot of money. And if you

812
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: can stay there and keep defending, keep defending, you can

813
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: make more than you UFC guys. Ever, Nakida, he's fighting

814
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: later this year?

815
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: Is that right?

816
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: Is Merkuda fighting?

817
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'll be honest with you. Do you does.

818
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: Nikita do work as an architect? Where does you just

819
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: do the boxing?

820
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: I'd say he does a lot for himself. He builds

821
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: a lot, like how it builds Wow, just himself can

822
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: do it himself. Yeah, just physically just builds stuff. Just

823
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: a home. Uh. If you tell him to. He's his goal,

824
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: I think is to build a house out of wood

825
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: that he's going to pick from trees.

826
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: He cut the trees down.

827
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: He's going to cut the trees down.

828
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: That's cool.

829
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: So he's got different ambitions. But yeah, that's how that's

830
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: how he's always really been. His mind's very creative.

831
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: And there's a rapha fight. There's there's no announcement of

832
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: a rap.

833
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: Honestly, like I hear it in the media, but that's

834
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: about it.

835
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 1: I saw Zarafa also much and I asked him. I said,

836
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: it's the blue going on with him because that was

837
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: he had a fight before around that period and way

838
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: way you're doing it. But nonetheless he uh, he had

839
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: a call to do it. He's always going to do it.

840
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: But he said, I actually don't have a blue at him.

841
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: How do you feel about him?

842
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have any issues.

843
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel the media builds it up a bit.

844
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: The media, of course builds it up, but I think

845
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: that's just yeah, like if he was living in a

846
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: different error, Zarafa would have wouldn't have many fights. But

847
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: he's got these sort of lingering around in his Name's

848
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: always talked about in the media because of the zoos. Yeah,

849
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: so that's that's about it.

850
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: What do you think about So Dana White's actually promoting

851
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: on behalf of Turkey his first fight come out Canella Crawford.

852
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: I reckon about Dana White promoting well, but all of

853
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: it and they also those two.

854
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's it's a massive fight. I think

855
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 2: it's a big fight. I think Crawford wins in my opinion.

856
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a bit too smart.

857
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: I think Canalo has dropped down a bit in his

858
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 2: last maybe two three years. But yeah, it's an interesting,

859
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: interesting story because Canelo's for a while though, like he

860
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: doesn't fight often, but he's a beautiful fighter. He's unbelievable,

861
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: one of one of the greats moves.

862
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: Canelo's sort of your tough Mexican style, hard ass.

863
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: But you know what, when I when I saw the

864
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: Canelo fight week when I was in Vegas last time,

865
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: it's unreal. The Canelo brand and what he brings to

866
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: the people, the way it goes, the fight and the atmosphere,

867
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: the passion of Mexican supporters. It's big, you know, and

868
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: Mexican boxing is so big and it's just it's like

869
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: a religion there. So I understand the passion that he brings.

870
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: What do you think about Dana White? So Dana and

871
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: White actually told me when I interviewed him earlier this

872
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: year with the premiere, he told me that he had

873
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: been approached by Turkey to take control of the boxing game,

874
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: and the whole month later he announced it. And it

875
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: seems to me that that movement, apart from the fact

876
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: that the fighters get paid a lot of money big dough,

877
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: that Daniel actually tried to do for that what he's

878
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: done for the UFC. You know, one of the issues

879
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: in boxing and has never happened in your case, but

880
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: one of the shoes in box has a lot of mismatches,

881
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: as you know, and it's not great for boxing sometimes,

882
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: you know. I think we saw one this year. I

883
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: think with Thurman Brock was just you know, shouldn't happen

884
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: for Brock's sake, broxywood kid, you know, and I just

885
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: wish it never happened. And whereas what Dana said to

886
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: me is that he's going to make sure it's not

887
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: like that. It's going to be more like UFC. You're

888
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: your inform and his inform. But even playing correct. Do

889
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: you think that would be good for boxing?

890
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I think I know you, I think it

891
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: would be good. Yeah, I think it's it's great for

892
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: the fans. I think boxing in one organization is a

893
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: bit hard.

894
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: Oh, that'll never happen.

895
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's too big. Yeah, to just move

896
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: it to one.

897
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: It's also too political and it's different to the UFC.

898
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: But because you want to get on television get part

899
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: of paper, you've got to go through UFC. But there's

900
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: lots of other owns for boxing. But like but nonetheless

901
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: just sort of presenting an even, sort of even tempered

902
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: process of all the fighters being fighting against each other

903
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: and paying fighters a lot of money. For me, a

904
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: fighter should get paid as much as possible because it

905
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: could be the last fight through any for any reason.

906
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: They could lose it, they could get injured, or whatever

907
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: the case may be. You know, they provide incredible entertainment

908
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: around the world. Like the amount of money that gets

909
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: made on a fight night, and today more so than

910
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: ever before. Putting yourself in the ring for ten or

911
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: twelve rounds is like not even point one percent of

912
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: the population would even consider it. They would just wouldn't

913
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: and then all the training are to do and all

914
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: the sacrifices you've got to make. You know, in your case,

915
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: you know you've just done this. You haven't didn't go

916
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: to university, you didn't become a builder, you didn't become

917
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: a plumber. You're giving yourself and you don't set yourself

918
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: up for future unless you win. It's all or nothing. Yeah,

919
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: of course every time. So it should be maximum amount

920
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: of money relative to the amount of money that take

921
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: overall the fighters should get most of the dough Like actors,

922
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: they should get most of the dough. I therefore would

923
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: put to you, do you think that this might actually

924
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: kick start bigger results for fighters around the world and

925
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: all the other in all the other platforms in other words,

926
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: boxing is I mean, and all the other platforms. In

927
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: other words, all those people that compete with the howdis

928
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: or Turkey environment will have to start to match. We'll

929
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: try to match the same amount of money that day.

930
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: And White's going to offer fighters to fight on his cards.

931
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure how much they'll be offering though.

932
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: Everything's based on revenue, you know, like if a certain

933
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: fight generates a certain amount, then the fighter is going

934
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: to make that much more. A lot of fighters unfortunately

935
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: outprice themselves and don't get a gig. Yeah, and a

936
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: lot of fighters think they're worth a certain amount, but

937
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: they're actually not. At the same time, when a promoter

938
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: puts a fight on, it has to financially make sense,

939
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: or if they're going to be doing losses all the time,

940
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: it just doesn't make it. That won't last exactly.

941
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: Well, I just I know you're a sales fan, but

942
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: we've got to play fighting a Ruster's player, which is

943
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: versus What do you think about that one of them?

944
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Gal Yeah, Yeah, I like it's pretty tough,

945
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: but he's going to be yeah, like like how he thinks. Honestly,

946
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: I think it's five years too late.

947
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: For both of them, for both, but we've always wanted

948
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: to see it.

949
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, But honestly, I'm that interested in it.

950
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: Is that because you're is that because you know you're

951
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: a person, is the top of your craft, but also

952
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: your skill based relative to their skill bases, Like you know,

953
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: it's like different different planets.

954
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: I enjoy watching rugby players punch on with each other.

955
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: I think it's fun. Of course, they're not going to

956
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: be crazy pro boxes there is no expectation of that.

957
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: But they bring certain punches and like they have some

958
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: fun in there. But I just think the the two

959
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: boys are a bit old, that's all.

960
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: It is.

961
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: Like if Goal when Gal was fighting, I really enjoyed

962
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: watching gals fights like him and Justin Hodges, just just

963
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: Hodges would knock him down just then go gets up

964
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: and knocks him out. It was it was fun, you know,

965
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: it's what you want to watch sometimes watching the purest

966
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: boxes jab jab jab and move around for twelve rounds.

967
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: No one cares. It's not interesting. But sometimes when these

968
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: guys have a crack, it's fine because.

969
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: You're curious as to how they can handle it.

970
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and you see them the tough boys on

971
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: the field, and yeah, the toughness really comes out in

972
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: the boxing room.

973
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's funny you should say. And he's got a

974
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: massive engine on gallon. Yeah, like incredible engine and he

975
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: has had a lot more I think he's a lot

976
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: more profiles than Sonny. You're a lot tougher profiles. I

977
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: mean he, I mean they both thought Mark Cahn't Mark

978
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: was sort of obviously at the end of his career,

979
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: but way in fact probably pass the end of his career.

980
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: But but Gal got hit by a hundred few times

981
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: and Gallon didn't didn't go down and made Mark can't hit.

982
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, he was one hundred and thirty two kilos

983
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: a night, and like when he hits Sunny those Sonny

984
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: went whoa and that sort of pretty much stopped to fight. So,

985
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked to Danny Green the other day

986
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: and Danny said to me that he thinks Sonny will

987
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: win because he's just more athletic and fitter. He's not

988
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: saying he's a better fighter than Gal. He's relatively speaking,

989
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: you know. He just thinks he's just moves better. And

990
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: Gal's probably had a lot of a lot of injuries,

991
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: hurt himself a lot, but Gal's pretty confident. He's saying,

992
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a twos or something like that. But

993
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: Gal's saying he's going to just outlast him and he's

994
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: got a massive engine on him. And like you said,

995
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: that's interesting. There's a conversation straight up, will you go

996
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: to those fights in Vegas? So I can't. I think

997
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: they're fights in July, too, isn't it.

998
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the Wednesday and I'm fighting the Sunday right.

999
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, you definitely won't be going, but will you

1000
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: watch it? But what do you do when you're away

1001
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: like that? Like you're away, does your wife go with you?

1002
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: She comes later on, she stays elsewhere, You don't stay together.

1003
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: I stayed with my chef. Yeah, meaning we sort of

1004
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: just try rents a place outside of the strip, and yeah,

1005
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: we're just going to hang out there, just.

1006
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: Like in terms of eating and stuff like that.

1007
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: Eating and just just chilling out from the strip.

1008
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: Is that? But is that because it is pretty it's

1009
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: pretty tough. Vegas has sucks the life out of you.

1010
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: It's so pretty hectic place. It really is. It's like

1011
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: it's in the middle of the desert. It's like it's dry,

1012
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: hot hot now, very hot now. And but the electricity

1013
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: in the joint, I don't know what it is. It's

1014
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: a lot. It's something about it. We are quite quick

1015
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: if you're not careful, if you don't how to manage it.

1016
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: And that's maybe what Volk was saying, just getther it

1017
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks instead of you said you stayed

1018
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: there for a long periods of time. Too long, too long.

1019
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: It's not it's I mean, it's a great place for

1020
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: an event. It's a great place to go watch event.

1021
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: I was at the Rugby League this year and it

1022
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: was there last year. It's great for that. It's not

1023
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: a place you want to hang out for a very

1024
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: long time. So where to from here? Tim? So you've

1025
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: got three weeks, three weeks before the fight for the night.

1026
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 2: So I'll go there two weeks, two and a half weeks, Yeah,

1027
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: before the fight, a couple of days, just relax, climatize,

1028
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: another week of training.

1029
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: Do you spa when you're there?

1030
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: Maybe one spa? We'll see how it goes. I'm feeling

1031
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: is that a hard spa or is it just a

1032
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: So I'm finishing all my hard spa here in Australia.

1033
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: That was the whole purpose. Finish it all here and

1034
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: then go there when I'm already nice and prepped. Yeah.

1035
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: And so you're trying to sort of build back up,

1036
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: so to speak. You know you're not not to you know,

1037
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: you're not too trying to thrash myself.

1038
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, trying to stay sharp.

1039
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: You're right, So fitness, your fitness should be peaking in

1040
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: a week. It's pretty good now, and you want to

1041
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: keep it there. You want to keep it out a level.

1042
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: Are you someone who loses the fitness quickly or you

1043
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: can maintain easily? Yeah, that's pretty cool. And will you run? Yeah,

1044
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: you continue to run.

1045
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do a bit of running. Yeah. I just

1046
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: enjoy running. That's one of my things. I can put

1047
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: my earphones in and just casually just recovery. Top thing

1048
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, not to kill myself or anything.

1049
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: You mentioned scientific. More scientific is the weight in waight? Yeah?

1050
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: But is that about knowing? So for example, getting a

1051
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: dex a scan, seeing where your weight's carried and then

1052
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: doing proper calculations, making assumptions. Do you do a metabolic rate?

1053
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: All of that stuff, how many calories you burn at rest?

1054
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: And then you start to add assumptions on and then

1055
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: not just and I'm working.

1056
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: On calories to eat in a week, how many calories

1057
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: to each daily?

1058
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: And does who does that for your chef? Where you've

1059
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: got a chef and.

1060
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: I've got my strength coach is also dieticians, so he

1061
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: helps me, helps us out with all that stuff.

1062
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: So you go through the whole process. So when you finish,

1063
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: when you have when you have your fight and you win,

1064
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: and I've seen you post stuff on on on Instagram

1065
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: doing this. Do you go out and have a big

1066
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: meal after? Yeah?

1067
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a place in Vegas we always go. I

1068
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: used to go every weekend. It's called Italy. It's got

1069
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: the best paninis in Vegas.

1070
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: There's bread, the bread, and yeah that's that because all

1071
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's a big reward because you haven't

1072
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: had that for twelve weeks.

1073
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that'd be right. You usually go to this

1074
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 2: one restaurant every weekend. I've been missing out on pizza

1075
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: every weekend, so right now because you like your pizza,

1076
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: I love my pizza. Yeah.

1077
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: So, in other words, you don't live this weird strict

1078
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: life which most people probably think this. This guy's like

1079
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: so highly just wanted you know, he never overreach. Maybe

1080
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: you don't over do you. Do you drink? No, you

1081
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: don't drink any alcohol, not just when you're preparing, but

1082
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 1: at any time. You've never had really had alcohol.

1083
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: No, it's never been my thing.

1084
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: You don't care about it.

1085
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: At my wedding I did, of course. Yeah yeah yeah yeah,

1086
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 2: but not not not since my boxing career start. Really yeah,

1087
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 2: now you live.

1088
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: Forever good your organisms seriously, Like that's that's pretty rare

1089
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: for someone who's thirty years of age today, you know,

1090
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: like not many people would, even even fighters, like I mean,

1091
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: I member, Jeff, he used to drink like outside of training.

1092
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad, My dad used to drink. Yeah, it's

1093
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: never never really enjoyed it.

1094
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: So you don't have a voda or something like that.

1095
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: Do you speak Russian? Good?

1096
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: Well?

1097
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, like fluent, fluent, And that's my obviously is you

1098
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: know what.

1099
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: We went to live in Moscow in two thousand and

1100
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: nine and eight, so I learned how to speak and read, write,

1101
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: interact with everyone there when when I lived in Russia.

1102
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: Wow, So and you continue to practice, Yeah.

1103
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: I just just learned and was able to. Like I

1104
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: always knew how to talk Russian, always new, but reading

1105
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: and writing and all that stuff was a bit harder.

1106
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: Of course, we went to Russian school once a week

1107
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: when we were young. But still yeah, here in Australia.

1108
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: But when when you moved to Moscow and you you

1109
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: get taken to a local school, not an international school,

1110
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: but a local school. To be Russian, you have to

1111
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: speak Russian, you got to read and write. So yeah,

1112
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: I learned how to do it there and remains with

1113
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: me now.

1114
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: Did your brother speak Russian?

1115
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 2: Mikita speaks Russian. Yes, I'm not sure. If you can

1116
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: read and write, he would have been much younger. Yeah,

1117
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: he was much younger, same as my sister. Yeah, I'm

1118
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: sure that if they can read and write, but they

1119
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: can they can speak.

1120
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: Would So would you speak Russian to your mum now?

1121
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1122
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: Well like yeah, yeah, you ring up and say something

1123
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: in Russian?

1124
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1125
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: Just is it just for the purpose of intimacy with

1126
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: your mum? Or is it no, you're just more practice.

1127
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: It's weird. It's just like your sort if you speak

1128
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: another language, it feels a bit weird really. Yeah. Yeah,

1129
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: like yeah, if I speak English with my mom and

1130
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: be like, she'd be like, we are you talking to

1131
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: me in English? For? You know, like she speaks to

1132
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: me in English? Like we're talking to me in English

1133
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: for We've always grown up just talking Russian. That's how

1134
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: my other language to each other.

1135
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: That's cool.

1136
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as my dad, same as my dad. Whenever

1137
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: we speak, I'll always been Russian.

1138
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: That sort of makes sense because your dad's living in Russia.

1139
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: But what about your grandfather?

1140
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah that's Russian, is it? Yeah? He's got no English

1141
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: at all.

1142
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: Oh, really.

1143
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd think like after thirty years that you pick

1144
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: up a little bit, but no, he chooses. He's a

1145
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: big chooser. Like he chooses a lot of things, yeah,

1146
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: to not do.

1147
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he gets by it works.

1148
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he goes from his house to the

1149
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 2: gym and back. That's really, that's all he needs to go.

1150
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: It's funny, like to the supermarket. He just reminded me

1151
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: of you know, I might before my father passed away

1152
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: last year, I was together, we sat day and when

1153
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,479
Speaker 1: I was gather ice just try my hardest to speak

1154
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: as much Greek to him as possible because it wasn't well.

1155
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's it's actually a pretty special moment when

1156
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: he speak to your parents in there. In his case,

1157
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: it was more a dialectic dialect of Greek from where

1158
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: he came from. And I wouldn't do so well in Athens,

1159
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: but does well in his village. And but it's it's

1160
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: when I thought about after he passed away, how important

1161
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: that was to him and to me too actually, to

1162
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: be honestly, it's one of the things I hold on

1163
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: to and that's pretty important.

1164
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: Mate.

1165
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: Don't ever let that one go because your mum's still young,

1166
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: but like not that anybody's sort of going to pass away.

1167
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: But how old you know, your dad's like close to

1168
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: seventy when he's sixty five sixty, he's sixty something sixty,

1169
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: Jeff fifty's I think he's better old th Jeff. And

1170
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: he was born okay, so he's not even sixty yet.

1171
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: He's a bit younger than a fank just turned sixty. Yeah,

1172
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: so there you go. But that sort of stuff made

1173
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: is really important to you and to your parents, your grandfather.

1174
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: Future brother, future brother and sister. Back in the Russian ones,

1175
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: the young ones, they're only going to talk Russian. Yeah,

1176
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: they're not going to talk much.

1177
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: Do you speak to that much? No, I don't, but

1178
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: they will be curious, of course. My brother is, Yeah,

1179
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: of course, of course, my two brothers.

1180
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: We hope that we can visit Russia like one day soon,

1181
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 2: sooner rather than.

1182
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: How old are they?

1183
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: Good question one? Just probably in year one and then

1184
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: maybe in year three.

1185
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the only little.

1186
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah like that seven.

1187
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if they watch you fight.

1188
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure they would. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure my

1189
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: dad's put it on.

1190
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: Of course you will, and I'm sure you well like

1191
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: like you can imagine them in Russia in Moscows. There's

1192
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: my brother. That's my brother. They won't really sort of

1193
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: have nightmares about her. If you're losing, they won't be

1194
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: elated if you win. I mean they won't neither way,

1195
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: but still they will be thinking about it.

1196
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: That's my Yeah, that's pretty cool. Cool.

1197
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: I can't imagine being told that as a kid, that

1198
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: there's your brother there. But there's your brother there, and

1199
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: he's fighting in them gyms in Las Vegas for the

1200
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: world title. Just one there he is doing that. That's

1201
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: something to fight for.

1202
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course. And I think it's a

1203
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 2: big probably a big trip out for my dad to

1204
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 2: even be able to comprehend the fact that I'm fighting

1205
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: at MGM, you know, like his son is fighting on

1206
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: the stage where he fought his whole career.

1207
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's pretty amazing. So I just want to

1208
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: go back finally to the twenties that's coming up. What

1209
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: are we going to see?

1210
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: Mate? Just a real strategic strategic fight for me, with

1211
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 2: a bit of blood and guts and war.

1212
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: You ready to go to war?

1213
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: I've been through Helen back, you know, you know, I

1214
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 2: know what it is and and you're comfortable with it. Yeah,

1215
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of that. My biggest fear in life

1216
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: was losing, and once you go past it just shows

1217
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: how insignificant it really is, you know. So right now

1218
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: everything's just a victory.

1219
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: And if if he wants war, you're going to bring it.

1220
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring it.

1221
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,479
Speaker 1: And if it wants nuclear, you give him nuclear, of course.

1222
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: But otherwise he'll end up having to fight. You'll fight.

1223
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't know what he's in for.

1224
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

1225
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: So good