1
00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,320
Speaker 1: On track, it was the Marcus brothers who stole the

2
00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,640
Speaker 1: headlines in Barcelona, a sprint stunner, a Sunday showdown, and

3
00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,600
Speaker 1: a championship crowning that's been put on ice. Deliberate or not,

4
00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,920
Speaker 1: we don't know. But off track, all eyes are locked

5
00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,000
Speaker 1: on Peco Vanyaya with results that leave you shaking your head.

6
00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,480
Speaker 1: At the moment, we had crashes, penalties, the usual suspects

7
00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,600
Speaker 1: stirring the pot, and of course, surprise, surprise, ju Catti

8
00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,840
Speaker 1: walked away with the Constructor's crown Classic right. Plus, we

9
00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,760
Speaker 1: finally got the news we've been waiting for. Jack is

10
00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,400
Speaker 1: staying for twenty twenty six and we cannot wait. This

11
00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,320
Speaker 1: episode of Pit Talker's brought to you by Shannon's Insurance.

12
00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,199
Speaker 1: I'm your host Ronita Vanmullin, and joining me is the

13
00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,440
Speaker 1: man who can name Moto GP facts faster than a

14
00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,520
Speaker 1: Jucati throttle, Mister Matt Clayton, Matt, we've got a lot

15
00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,880
Speaker 1: to unpack from the Catalan Grand Prix, we do.

16
00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,680
Speaker 2: Is there anything faster than a do Catty throttle? You

17
00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,600
Speaker 2: would sugest after six constructors championships in a row, Probably not,

18
00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,720
Speaker 2: but it was funny how you know that barely race

19
00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,759
Speaker 2: to ripple over the course of the weekend, everyone kind

20
00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,120
Speaker 2: of just shrugged a win. Okay, sure, because really nobody

21
00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,800
Speaker 2: else had to look in from the start of the season.

22
00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,160
Speaker 2: But in terms of where that sat in the news

23
00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,280
Speaker 2: cycle for the weekend, like you said, there was rather

24
00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,240
Speaker 2: a bit going on, so we sort of just ticked

25
00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,240
Speaker 2: the box and moved on with that one. But I

26
00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,920
Speaker 2: don't even know where you want to start here, because

27
00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,360
Speaker 2: there's about ten starting boards.

28
00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,600
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go, let's gore from the mark as

29
00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,440
Speaker 1: Alex Manker's Mark Markers situation, because it feels like it's

30
00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,760
Speaker 1: kind of divided everyone at the moment. There's some people

31
00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,160
Speaker 1: online who are going, you know, Alex clearly was the

32
00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,560
Speaker 1: faster one all weekend. We could see it from FP

33
00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,640
Speaker 1: one and but is stating fact Alex was fast all weekend.

34
00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,160
Speaker 1: But then there's a lot of other people who are saying,

35
00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, Mark has been saying for the last two

36
00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,480
Speaker 1: Grand PRIs, I don't want to win the championship in Mazano.

37
00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to win a Messano. And then all

38
00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Alex wins the race in Barcelona, which

39
00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,600
Speaker 1: means Mark doesn't go into a Mazzano with that match points,

40
00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,560
Speaker 1: so there was a lot of intrigue around that. But

41
00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,959
Speaker 1: Saturday's sprint, Alex Marpez crashing out of the lead, over confidence, right,

42
00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,560
Speaker 1: he just it just the top of the front, as

43
00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,040
Speaker 1: it always happens at that corner in Barcelona, types the

44
00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,440
Speaker 1: front and off he goes, crashing down the circuit.

45
00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was done.

46
00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,959
Speaker 2: And it's interesting that you talked before about you know,

47
00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,200
Speaker 2: was this the case of Alex Marquez being better or

48
00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,880
Speaker 2: was this the case of Mark Marquez's letting And I

49
00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,480
Speaker 2: use the word letting it inverted Commas letting his brother win.

50
00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,720
Speaker 2: I don't have letting's quite the right word, but I

51
00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,720
Speaker 2: think both things can be true to an extent. And

52
00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,920
Speaker 2: I think what you just said then about the crash

53
00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,959
Speaker 2: in the sprint dictated so much about how Alex approached

54
00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,399
Speaker 2: the Grand Prix on Sunday, because yeah, he was over

55
00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,000
Speaker 2: confidence and over confident, and he had it one on Saturday.

56
00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,560
Speaker 2: It was done and Mark had kind of given up

57
00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,840
Speaker 2: the fight at that point, and that was a sprint

58
00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,600
Speaker 2: that you know, Mark doesn't need gifts and Alex handed

59
00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,760
Speaker 2: in won by just a moment of lack of concentration.

60
00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,440
Speaker 2: Because that was done, I think that dictated how the

61
00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,880
Speaker 2: race played out on Sunday, and that if Alex was

62
00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,680
Speaker 2: going to lose, he wasn't going to lose because he

63
00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,320
Speaker 2: lost it. He was going to have to be beaten.

64
00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,720
Speaker 2: He wasn't going to throw it away himself. So I

65
00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,840
Speaker 2: think that really dictated a lot of how the second

66
00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,320
Speaker 2: half of that race panned out. I always say that

67
00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,000
Speaker 2: it's good to have different ways to win motor GP races, right,

68
00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,519
Speaker 2: so sometimes have these crazy pack races and these brawls

69
00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,600
Speaker 2: and everyone's overtaking each other every corner for the entire race.

70
00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,160
Speaker 3: They're great.

71
00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,560
Speaker 2: Isn't there something cool about watching a race that's a

72
00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,880
Speaker 2: slow burn, that's super tense? And there were sixteen straight

73
00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,120
Speaker 2: laps there back and looked at the data where the

74
00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,480
Speaker 2: gap was between point two and point six of a

75
00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,200
Speaker 2: second between the Marquez brothers. Mark didn't make a move

76
00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,560
Speaker 2: on Alex in that time, but he was there, and

77
00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,120
Speaker 2: the tension just ratcheted up because you just kept seeing

78
00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,360
Speaker 2: that lap counter counting down, counting down, and you're all right,

79
00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,280
Speaker 2: I know it's coming here. And if you're Alex, you're upfront,

80
00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,720
Speaker 2: the rider behind you you know better than anybody else

81
00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,680
Speaker 2: in the entire world, not just on the motor GP grid,

82
00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,119
Speaker 2: better than anyone you know in the world, and you

83
00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,360
Speaker 2: know what's probably going to happen here. And every time

84
00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,040
Speaker 2: you go into turn ted, you've got this reminder of

85
00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,960
Speaker 2: this win that you threw in the bin the day before.

86
00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,720
Speaker 2: So to my mind, I liked the way that Alex

87
00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,040
Speaker 2: absorbed the pressure. And there was a lap I think

88
00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,359
Speaker 2: it's lap twenty where Alex pushed and Mark went with

89
00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,440
Speaker 2: him and thought, all right, we're now starting to build

90
00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,039
Speaker 2: up to this, and then Alex put about half a

91
00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,599
Speaker 2: second in him in the next lap to show that

92
00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,120
Speaker 2: he'd managed this race perfectly. I look at the championship

93
00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,800
Speaker 2: situation and think, had you know, Mark's got one eye

94
00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,520
Speaker 2: on the title clearly, and he's going to win it.

95
00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,320
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of when he's going to win it.

96
00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,520
Speaker 2: If this was a race earlier in the season, when

97
00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,479
Speaker 2: he wasn't thinking about championship permutations, if this was a

98
00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,800
Speaker 2: race later in the season when the title had been

99
00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,279
Speaker 2: one already, I think he probably would have had a

100
00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,040
Speaker 2: bigger go at Alex. There was too much to lose

101
00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,920
Speaker 2: in that situation. Now Mark doesn't care where he wins

102
00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,000
Speaker 2: a world championship. We cared that we wanted him to

103
00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,360
Speaker 2: win it at Mesado because it was going to be

104
00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,839
Speaker 2: some good narrative for us, But he just wants to win,

105
00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,159
Speaker 2: full stop. He doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter to

106
00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,600
Speaker 2: Mark when it happens. Also, I think that you know

107
00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,000
Speaker 2: Alex is this in Malaysia are the two tracks where

108
00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,359
Speaker 2: Alex is at least as good, if not better than Mark.

109
00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,480
Speaker 2: And it's not because he's a better motor GP right,

110
00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,960
Speaker 2: we know that's not the case, but it's the configuration

111
00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,800
Speaker 2: of the Cattaloonia track in that Mark's never been brilliant

112
00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,160
Speaker 2: at this track because it's a lot of long radius

113
00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,159
Speaker 2: right handed turns, which Mark's never been good at, even

114
00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,240
Speaker 2: pre shoulder injuries, and since then he's definitely not been

115
00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,880
Speaker 2: as good as But you look at where the right

116
00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,760
Speaker 2: handers are, it's at the start of the lap when

117
00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,080
Speaker 2: you're going through well, it's the last four corners of

118
00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,160
Speaker 2: the lap, and then it turns three and four particularly

119
00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,760
Speaker 2: and if you looked at sector one, Alex was fast

120
00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,120
Speaker 2: at the entire weekend, so Mark would make up ground

121
00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,720
Speaker 2: in the rest of the lap that he lost through

122
00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,720
Speaker 2: the first few corners, and then we get to that

123
00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,280
Speaker 2: last sequence of corners, all those right handers coming through

124
00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,119
Speaker 2: the stadium section until you get back on the start,

125
00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,560
Speaker 2: finished straight and Alex was quicker. So was Alex quicker overall?

126
00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,039
Speaker 2: Just maybe? But he was quicker in the right parts

127
00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,960
Speaker 2: of the track where Mark was fast that he wasn't

128
00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,480
Speaker 2: really able to press home that advantage. So I like

129
00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,240
Speaker 2: the fact that it was a tense race between the

130
00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,840
Speaker 2: two of them. Could Mark have pushed a bit? I

131
00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,479
Speaker 2: don't look probably. Also, if you Mark, why would you

132
00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,040
Speaker 2: because quite frankly, you know, if everyone's saying why didn't

133
00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,080
Speaker 2: he push for the victory? No one's sick of him

134
00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,520
Speaker 2: winning fifteen races in a row. Was it not nice

135
00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,160
Speaker 2: to see somebody else win a race? But I think

136
00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,239
Speaker 2: what this does do it means that the championships almost

137
00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,960
Speaker 2: going to certainly be wrapped up in Japan, right. There's

138
00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,159
Speaker 2: something kind of poetic or something about that, because he'll

139
00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,159
Speaker 2: win it on Honda's home turf. And this was not

140
00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,159
Speaker 2: an acrimonious parting between Mark and Honda. Mark did this

141
00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,200
Speaker 2: with a very heavy heart in that he was ready

142
00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,960
Speaker 2: to win again, and Honda weren't, and they'd had so

143
00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,400
Speaker 2: much success together that I don't think this was some

144
00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,680
Speaker 2: sort of you know, I hate you guys, I need

145
00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,400
Speaker 2: to leave. It was with a heavy heart that he

146
00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,880
Speaker 2: did this to close the circle and the decision he

147
00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,039
Speaker 2: made a couple of years ago to move from Honda

148
00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,719
Speaker 2: to Ducati. To do that in Japan is probably a

149
00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,320
Speaker 2: nicer way to finish this narrative rather than just the

150
00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,240
Speaker 2: inevitability year of Rossi fans booing Marquez on the podium

151
00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,400
Speaker 2: at Masada. Whether he wins the World Championship or not,

152
00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,000
Speaker 2: that's just the lowest hanging fruit imaginable, good for a

153
00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,960
Speaker 2: bit of social media traffic for a few days. But

154
00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,920
Speaker 2: maybe the better narrative is that he wins it where

155
00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,040
Speaker 2: he left.

156
00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,720
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you're hitting in the hand, nail on

157
00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,400
Speaker 1: the head, and I feel like we also need to

158
00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,200
Speaker 1: take a look back that it was only last year

159
00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,480
Speaker 1: was the first time that two brothers stood on the

160
00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,720
Speaker 1: metogp crazy right together, and now it's just it's a

161
00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,920
Speaker 1: normal thing. I think I read a fact and you

162
00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,560
Speaker 1: can tell me if this is right. Alex Marcus is

163
00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,160
Speaker 1: the only other writer this season who's won multiple races

164
00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,160
Speaker 1: apart from Mark.

165
00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

166
00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,280
Speaker 2: Correct, And so the stat that I dragged out and

167
00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,440
Speaker 2: I wrote in my post race talking points at two

168
00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,480
Speaker 2: am or something, so maybe a bit hazy on this.

169
00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,440
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety seven was the previous time there'd been two

170
00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,800
Speaker 2: brothers on a Grand Prix podium before Mark and Alex

171
00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,160
Speaker 2: are on the podium at Saxon Ring last year, right,

172
00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,600
Speaker 2: so that broke how many years? That is twenty seven

173
00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,680
Speaker 2: years draught between siblings being on the podium if you

174
00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,080
Speaker 2: had the Sprints and Grand Prix together. This year they

175
00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,960
Speaker 2: shared the podium seventeen times in thirty races, which is

176
00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,920
Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. Now if you're an Alex Marquez fan, look

177
00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,440
Speaker 2: away down because the score is Mark fifteen, Alex two.

178
00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,280
Speaker 2: But the fact that those two have been on the podium,

179
00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,320
Speaker 2: and Alex was talking about this in the post race

180
00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,120
Speaker 2: on Sunday, it's so to think that you're sharing a

181
00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,360
Speaker 2: podium with the person you shared a bedroom with growing

182
00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,120
Speaker 2: up in absolutely elite level sport is kind of crazy

183
00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,480
Speaker 2: that it happens once. It's kind of crazy that they're

184
00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,720
Speaker 2: even on the grid together, let alone sharing all this success.

185
00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,600
Speaker 2: It's a pretty remarkable story. And I mentioned this when

186
00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,760
Speaker 2: I was talking to Michael Lemonatto on Arafin Show and

187
00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,080
Speaker 2: we got down a motor GP rabbit hole. The other day,

188
00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,559
Speaker 2: Matt Oxley made a fantastic point on his podcast post

189
00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,359
Speaker 2: Catalunya where he was trying to think of other siblings

190
00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,600
Speaker 2: who've had this amazing mastery of their sport in a

191
00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,400
Speaker 2: truly global sport. I'm not talking about the Australian football

192
00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,280
Speaker 2: codes or anything else which nobody else in the world

193
00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,960
Speaker 2: cares about. I'm talking about genuine world sport. And he

194
00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,920
Speaker 2: said Serena and Venus Williams, And that was one that

195
00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,800
Speaker 2: hadn't come to mind because I wasn't thinking ball sports necessarily,

196
00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,000
Speaker 2: but I thought, yeah, that's a really good analog for this.

197
00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,400
Speaker 2: And you think of the improbability of Serena and Venus

198
00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,640
Speaker 2: getting to where they got from where they came from,

199
00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,920
Speaker 2: let alone dominating the sport the way they did and

200
00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,840
Speaker 2: playing a Grand Slam finals and what have you. This

201
00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,800
Speaker 2: is the Marquez brothers is the only the Williams sisters

202
00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,000
Speaker 2: is the only thing I can think that's equivalent. And

203
00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,920
Speaker 2: you look at the way that is revered in that

204
00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,920
Speaker 2: particular sport. We're seeing something pretty remarkable here because there's

205
00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,480
Speaker 2: a pretty small percentage chance this should be happening at all.

206
00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a species. I listened to the same part

207
00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,160
Speaker 1: with Matt Oxley, Okay, I when I heard that as well,

208
00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,439
Speaker 1: I was sitting there going, yeah, I'm trying to think

209
00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,360
Speaker 1: of any other siblings because quite often it's one, and

210
00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,880
Speaker 1: maybe it's one and is in a lower category than

211
00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,840
Speaker 1: the other, but it's very very rare that there's the

212
00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,920
Speaker 1: two at the peak of their sport.

213
00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, or even if they're in the peak of their sport,

214
00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,960
Speaker 2: these are like a genuine hierarchy, like I think of

215
00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,520
Speaker 2: Michael Schumacher and Ralph Schumacher. Like Ralph Schumacher was a

216
00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,920
Speaker 2: Grand Prix race winning driver, his brother won seven World Championships.

217
00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,800
Speaker 2: Huge gap between the two. So the fact that, I mean,

218
00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,160
Speaker 2: Mark's going to be a seven type MotoGP champion in

219
00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,960
Speaker 2: a few weeks, so we're not putting Alex in that category.

220
00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,199
Speaker 1: But Alex is going to be runner up, absolutely.

221
00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,360
Speaker 2: And Alex has won titles in Modo three and my

222
00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,000
Speaker 2: titles in Moto two, and he's going to be a

223
00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,720
Speaker 2: World Championship Motor GP runner up in a season that

224
00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,400
Speaker 2: is going to be won by one of the best

225
00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,640
Speaker 2: riders ever to do it. It's an amazing story.

226
00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,560
Speaker 1: Amazing story. But my question to you on that is,

227
00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,240
Speaker 1: with Mark finishing second on the weekend, does that kind

228
00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,119
Speaker 1: of secure Alex is a second in the world Championship.

229
00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,160
Speaker 1: Is that like another little aspect of the storyline of

230
00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,520
Speaker 1: pushing the crowning back?

231
00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit.

232
00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Alex has had a bit of wobble since

233
00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,520
Speaker 2: he broke his hand in Asen. It's not been great

234
00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,560
Speaker 2: since then. But I think Alex was going to even

235
00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,200
Speaker 2: before this weekend, was likely to fall backwards into second

236
00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,839
Speaker 2: place anyway, because you look at the chasing pack. Pecobanyaal,

237
00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,000
Speaker 2: which we'll get to, has just been that stories. It

238
00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,200
Speaker 2: gets worse by the week. Marco Pozeki didn't score a

239
00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,720
Speaker 2: point in Kashelunya through no fault of his own, but

240
00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,520
Speaker 2: he'd been on a really good run, left there completely scoreless.

241
00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,040
Speaker 2: And the next guy in the standings is Pedro Acosta,

242
00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,800
Speaker 2: who for the first eight to nine rounds was kind

243
00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,800
Speaker 2: of anonymous, and he's really good now, but he's certainly

244
00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,280
Speaker 2: not a threat to catch Alex at this point. Like

245
00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,600
Speaker 2: you look at Alex's points tally, it's a significant points tally.

246
00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,480
Speaker 2: It just gets dwarfed by the mark points tally. But

247
00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,320
Speaker 2: you look at how many points Alex are scored this year, like,

248
00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,720
Speaker 2: that's a genuinely amazing season. I think over if I

249
00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,360
Speaker 2: may have written this, I forgot what I've written in

250
00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,800
Speaker 2: the last week. I think he's scored twice as many

251
00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,520
Speaker 2: points this season than he scored in any single season previously.

252
00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,120
Speaker 2: And we've still got seven rounds to go. Like, Alex

253
00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,120
Speaker 2: has been genuinely awesome this year, and it's just the

254
00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,959
Speaker 2: fact that it's been overshadowed by has He's been overshadowed

255
00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,920
Speaker 2: all his life by a big bro who.

256
00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,440
Speaker 3: Just happens to be incredibly good at what he does.

257
00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean hard relate with that. But let's

258
00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,559
Speaker 1: move on to Peckrock, because you brought that up there,

259
00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,680
Speaker 1: and I think this is the thing at the moment

260
00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,560
Speaker 1: is we're seeing like the highest of highs, and especially

261
00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,360
Speaker 1: in the Ducati Lenova garagees celebrate Mark Marquez and look

262
00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,319
Speaker 1: what he's doing and all this amazing, and then you

263
00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,560
Speaker 1: see the garage door closed, or you see those blinds

264
00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,079
Speaker 1: over the farm where it's like Peco is at the

265
00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,240
Speaker 1: lowest of lows at the moment, and this weekend he

266
00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,240
Speaker 1: qualified twenty first. It was his worst qualification for three years.

267
00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,560
Speaker 2: I believe, yes, in a qualifying that he didn't actually

268
00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,680
Speaker 2: properly take party because he was injured in Portugal in

269
00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,400
Speaker 2: twenty two.

270
00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is insane, okay. And then in Saturday's sprint

271
00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,000
Speaker 1: he made seven positions, got fourteen, fourteenth yeah yeah, and

272
00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,240
Speaker 1: then he made up fourteen positions in Sunday's Grand Prix.

273
00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,040
Speaker 1: But I was looking at an article with Jorge Martin,

274
00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,880
Speaker 1: who apparently sat into Peco's debrief on Sunday. He was saying,

275
00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,800
Speaker 1: and Joy said to what the media kind of give

276
00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,839
Speaker 1: my words out because I'm like, oh, what is going on? Peco?

277
00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,840
Speaker 1: He said. Joje Martin said that riding behind Peco is

278
00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,400
Speaker 1: like riding behind someone he's never seen before, and just

279
00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,240
Speaker 1: said he has no confidence. And even us sitting at

280
00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,839
Speaker 1: home on the sofar, we can see that, right. But

281
00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,840
Speaker 1: what happened on Sunday? How did he go from obviously

282
00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,440
Speaker 1: struggle street Saturday to Sunday? What was the changes there?

283
00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sunday owed itself to and in fact, we never

284
00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,319
Speaker 2: see it on the coverage because unless you're watching the

285
00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,960
Speaker 2: top three, don't see much on the coverage. He had

286
00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,400
Speaker 2: an awesome first lap, so had a really really good start,

287
00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,840
Speaker 2: took a really really good line into turn one, and

288
00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,160
Speaker 2: then an incident that we still haven't seen. The pack

289
00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,680
Speaker 2: got scattered a little bit at turn four on the

290
00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,360
Speaker 2: first lap where Brad Bender put a really hard move

291
00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,960
Speaker 2: on Jack Miller, who ended up checking up Jorge Martin,

292
00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,560
Speaker 2: and you saw Jack tumble all the way down. The

293
00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,520
Speaker 2: Jack Spitt went the first lap, he was eight seconds

294
00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,960
Speaker 2: off the back of the pack because he'd gone through

295
00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,240
Speaker 2: the turn for gravel trap after he'd been pushed off

296
00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,440
Speaker 2: by Binder, So we never saw Jack for the rest

297
00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,680
Speaker 2: of the race, but Peco gained some spots there as well,

298
00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,640
Speaker 2: so he finished he was It was a good result

299
00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,920
Speaker 2: based on what Banyaya has been doing lately. He was

300
00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,720
Speaker 2: also still beaten by a rookie on an aprillia in Agua,

301
00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,720
Speaker 2: so that's nothing to get too excited about when you

302
00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,319
Speaker 2: think about it. Because Peko won Catalod yet both times

303
00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,439
Speaker 2: we went there last year, should have the sprint and

304
00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,800
Speaker 2: the Catalan Grand Porine crashed on the last lap, and

305
00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,520
Speaker 2: then when we went back there for the last round

306
00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,439
Speaker 2: when Valencia got canceled, he won the sprint and the

307
00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,679
Speaker 2: Grand Prix didn't win the World Championship, as we know.

308
00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,640
Speaker 2: But the thing that we always talk about with Peco

309
00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,120
Speaker 2: in that his greatest strength is that he wants to

310
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,560
Speaker 2: understand everything before he puts it into action. And right

311
00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,760
Speaker 2: now that's his greatest weakness because Peco always looks for

312
00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,160
Speaker 2: and engineering and technical and data driven way to get

313
00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,800
Speaker 2: himself out of difficulties, and right now he's just he's

314
00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,080
Speaker 2: almost drowning in too much information.

315
00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,000
Speaker 3: You can see it.

316
00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,480
Speaker 2: There's nothing Martin talked about how stiff Pecko was on

317
00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,480
Speaker 2: the bike and how he's not riding the bike naturally.

318
00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,240
Speaker 2: That's the body language of a guy who doesn't quite

319
00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,280
Speaker 2: trust what he's doing and doesn't quite believe what the

320
00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,760
Speaker 2: numbers are saying because he can't translate the numbers and

321
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,400
Speaker 2: the data and the information to get the feeling.

322
00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:51,840
Speaker 3: That he needs.

323
00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,440
Speaker 2: And so you can almost be you could almost approach

324
00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,400
Speaker 2: this too intelligently, if you know what I mean, where

325
00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,800
Speaker 2: there's other riders on the grid that will just be

326
00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,920
Speaker 2: more accepting of, well, I don't like this bike, but

327
00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,720
Speaker 2: I'm just going to ride it that little bit harder

328
00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,040
Speaker 2: and try that little bit harder, and you turn it

329
00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,280
Speaker 2: into a physical motivation. I'm going to override this thing

330
00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,000
Speaker 2: that might be a Pilo junk or I don't like

331
00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,000
Speaker 2: and you see it up and down the grid. There's

332
00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,400
Speaker 2: certain riders that are much more brawn than brain, if

333
00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,960
Speaker 2: that makes sense, Like Pecko's a smart rider. Someone like

334
00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,640
Speaker 2: Pedro Acosta is just going to get on the bike

335
00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,600
Speaker 2: and rag it and just bend the thing to a

336
00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,000
Speaker 2: point where he's really really good. Someone like anabashit and

337
00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,000
Speaker 2: he didn't understand how the KTM worked at the start

338
00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,840
Speaker 2: of the season and they were slow to get updates,

339
00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,240
Speaker 2: and he didn't like the way he seek was and

340
00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,080
Speaker 2: everything else. Since they've got that bike ride, he's been

341
00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,880
Speaker 2: just instantly transformed into a guy who's up the front again.

342
00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,120
Speaker 2: So you can see how these different ways to approach this.

343
00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,560
Speaker 2: And I look at this in the context of Mark

344
00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,360
Speaker 2: Marquees and that I've always said that Mark is the

345
00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,440
Speaker 2: best rider of the best bike in motor GP when

346
00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,960
Speaker 2: he has it, But he's absolutely the best rider of

347
00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,320
Speaker 2: the worst bike in motor GP or a not particularly

348
00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,920
Speaker 2: good bike when he has that. And you can see

349
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,440
Speaker 2: that by when he won those six world titles with Honda,

350
00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,560
Speaker 2: there were probably three or four of those where he

351
00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,240
Speaker 2: didn't have the best bike on the grid. Some of

352
00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,160
Speaker 2: those years he might have had the third best bike.

353
00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:02,440
Speaker 3: On the grid.

354
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,200
Speaker 2: He is a great rider of a not so great bike.

355
00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,960
Speaker 2: If you give Peko Vanyaya the greatest bike possible and

356
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,880
Speaker 2: he understands what he's doing, We've seen what happens. He

357
00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,120
Speaker 2: wins World championships or it becomes runner up in World Championships.

358
00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,200
Speaker 2: And this is the analogy. And I keep coming back

359
00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,760
Speaker 2: to it, and I'm super proud of myself. I don't

360
00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,240
Speaker 2: know if it's original, but I'll claim it. Mark Marquez

361
00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,920
Speaker 2: is Casey Stoner and Pekovanyaya as Jhe Lorenzo. The way

362
00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,600
Speaker 2: that they approach their racing and the way they go

363
00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,080
Speaker 2: about every single thing. I always used to write about

364
00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,400
Speaker 2: Lorenzo that if you could help hold every race in

365
00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,080
Speaker 2: a laboratory where all the conditions were completely benign the

366
00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,000
Speaker 2: entire way through, I don't know how you beat him,

367
00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,400
Speaker 2: because he was just like a metronome, like when things

368
00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,240
Speaker 2: were in the right spot, he was basically unbeatable because

369
00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,320
Speaker 2: he didn't miss lines. I mean, Chris, your brother has

370
00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,840
Speaker 2: talked about this. You ride behind Lorenzo and you think

371
00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,200
Speaker 2: this guy's not real, like he has not made a

372
00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,240
Speaker 2: mistake for forty five minutes. When Peco has everything in

373
00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,800
Speaker 2: the sweet spot that's how he rides. He's so far

374
00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,760
Speaker 2: away from that right now, and he's trying to intellectually

375
00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,680
Speaker 2: his way out of the wilderness and it's not working.

376
00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,200
Speaker 2: And it was interesting to hear Fabio di jan Antonio

377
00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,680
Speaker 2: just before I get off this point. He's also riding

378
00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,200
Speaker 2: a GP twenty five. He's almost intimating that it's a

379
00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,159
Speaker 2: time to do less thinking and more doing at this point, like,

380
00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,720
Speaker 2: don't spend the whole of Friday like stuffing around with setups,

381
00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,200
Speaker 2: trying to find the perfect bike, Get on the bike,

382
00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,200
Speaker 2: understand what you have, finess a little bit round the edges,

383
00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,760
Speaker 2: and then just get the lap time out. And maybe

384
00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,480
Speaker 2: there's a lesson in that, and that if Peco is

385
00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,160
Speaker 2: going to do anything for the remainder of this season,

386
00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,560
Speaker 2: maybe it's think less and ride more, not the other

387
00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,840
Speaker 2: way around. I know that's not the way he rides,

388
00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,120
Speaker 2: but it might be the way to get himself out

389
00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:38,879
Speaker 2: of the rut that he's in.

390
00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you bought U Didyo, because that's something

391
00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, is like, for me, what has

392
00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,200
Speaker 1: kind of been reaffirming with what Peco' struggling with is

393
00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,240
Speaker 1: the fact that, yeah, Digia is on the same bike

394
00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,880
Speaker 1: as Mark and Peco, but dig he is not constantly

395
00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,120
Speaker 1: up the front with Mark ye, so it's showing, Okay, Mark,

396
00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,720
Speaker 1: we know can ride a bike no matter what it is.

397
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,639
Speaker 1: Peco's obviously struggling did he is somewhere in the middle

398
00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,359
Speaker 1: at the moment, And we know Digi is a decent rider,

399
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,680
Speaker 1: like he's a race winner everything like that, but he

400
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,320
Speaker 1: was consistently up the front and podium every weekend and

401
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,600
Speaker 1: up there with Mark and Peko was down here. You'd

402
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,240
Speaker 1: kind of be almost pointing more fingers to Pecko, going yeah,

403
00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,200
Speaker 1: is it's more to do with him? But the fact

404
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,879
Speaker 1: that digit is right there in the middle, it's like, yeah, okay,

405
00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,679
Speaker 1: something's not quite gelling right.

406
00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,280
Speaker 2: I would argue that Digi is closer to Mark than

407
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,239
Speaker 2: he is to Peco right now. Because Digiti's last two

408
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,800
Speaker 2: Grand PRIs there was a technical issue that scuffered what

409
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,199
Speaker 2: he was going to do in Hungary after he qualified

410
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,399
Speaker 2: to the front row, and then he crashed. To avoid

411
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,440
Speaker 2: another crash early in the race in Catalouonya. The last

412
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,600
Speaker 2: two race weekends, in the sprints, he's been on podiums

413
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,399
Speaker 2: both times, and so I think the high points for

414
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,400
Speaker 2: dig Ya probably show where the other GP twenty five

415
00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,400
Speaker 2: ie Peco.

416
00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,879
Speaker 3: Should be like right now.

417
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 2: Anything like a third place, you know, and not even

418
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,920
Speaker 2: a super competitive third place in anything right now for

419
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 2: Peco would be like a win quite frankly, So I

420
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,280
Speaker 2: think Digia shows that there's maybe something in that approach

421
00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,480
Speaker 2: to He's been a little unlucky to last two Sundays,

422
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 2: but I think what he's done on Saturdays and in

423
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 2: qualifying is more representative of where Peko should be. So

424
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 2: I think he's not close to Mark, but he's closer

425
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 2: to Mark than he is to Peko right now.

426
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,480
Speaker 1: No, You're right, And I was looking at the results

427
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,200
Speaker 1: and I'm going, yeah, did you I'm trying to improve

428
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 1: on what did You's been on the podium the last

429
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,639
Speaker 1: few weekends, but I think back to earlier in the

430
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 1: year he wasn't there, No, correct, So it's taken that

431
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 1: while it's like the diesel train like takes a while

432
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 1: to seal it up, and we've seen that. And speaking

433
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 1: of diesel trains. I'm on Ayagura because you mentioned him before.

434
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 1: That's another writer that I thought of, you know, this

435
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 1: weekend who he saw his best results since the season opener,

436
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,679
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about it, and I was doing

437
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 1: a bit of research and obviously listening to other podcasts.

438
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 1: Hi Simon. He says that i Agura, you know, he

439
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 1: done well here because he's tested here before. He's ridden

440
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,120
Speaker 1: this circuit on a Moto GP bike. Same in Thailand.

441
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 1: We saw him test there earlier in the year, did well.

442
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 1: So it's it seems like next year i Agura should

443
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: be sitting around P six more consistently because he's going

444
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: to have ridden every circuit on a Moto GP bike

445
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 1: completely right. This weekend, what I found really interesting and

446
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 1: some inside goss that I got was the fact that

447
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 1: i Agua is so good on the rear tire that

448
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 1: he can manage it so well. When it was ten

449
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 1: laps to go, he was like, oh, I could push now,

450
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure how much retire I had left.

451
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,440
Speaker 1: So he pushed at five laps to go, and but

452
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: if he pushed earlier, he still would have finished with

453
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 1: heaps of retire and even further up the grid.

454
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that experience piece, isn't it In that

455
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 2: you know right now you don't want to finish the

456
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 2: race and go, oh man, I had more retire I

457
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 2: could have used that, whereas there are other guys who, like,

458
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: you know, a cost I could wait for the thing

459
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 2: to be over. He was using the soft obviously, but

460
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 2: the Agura thing and you mentioned Simon Patterson there, that's

461
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 2: exactly the right point. He's too strongest Grand Prix this

462
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: week this year and his rookie season have been at

463
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 2: tracks that he's got reps on a motor GP bike.

464
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 2: You know, there's nothing that beats that level of experience

465
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: and you're a rookie and you just don't have that.

466
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 2: It's interesting to see the approach between Agura and Aldegera's

467
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: rookies this year. Agura is the classic, is the definition

468
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 2: of the diesel trainer. He wants to just chug away

469
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: and learn and build his knowledge, and that's been the

470
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 2: way his entire career has gone. Aldeger will be oh

471
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 2: my god, he's on the podium and then you go, oh,

472
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 2: he's in sixteenth.

473
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 3: What's going on?

474
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: Like his performance graph is all over the place, where

475
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: Agura is a lot steady at with the high points

476
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 2: of the tracks that he'd been too previously, and you wonder.

477
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 2: I don't think his raw speed is necessarily going to

478
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 2: be Aldege's level throughout his motor GP career, but there's

479
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: more than one way to be a really good motor

480
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 2: GP writer, right, And to my mind, Agura is the

481
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: guy who just builds and builds and builds. He gets

482
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: his knowledge and you'll see this sort of performance graph climb.

483
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: So the analog for me is that Agura is more

484
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: your sort of Andrea Devitsioso type in that he's going

485
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: to build slowly and you know whether he's quite well

486
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: championship material in MOTORGP, I don't know, but you look

487
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: at Da Viciosa was in motor GP a really really

488
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: long time before he started to hit his peak, and

489
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: Agura is going to be this slow burn and I

490
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 2: don't know when he's going to get there, but I'm

491
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 2: pretty confident that he will get there because he's all

492
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: about the right stuff. And Yeah, to see him coming

493
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: along late in that race and then almost lament the

494
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 2: fact like ah Man I could have pushed a little

495
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: bit earlier. You saw how quick he was at the

496
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 2: end of the race, and you know, mighty have got

497
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: to a cost through fourth. I don't know, but they're

498
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: all things that they're explainable and they're fixable, and you

499
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 2: don't make the same mistake again because the next time

500
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 2: he goes back to Catalong, Yeah, he's going to know

501
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: that now. Obviously you go to Messano now and all

502
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 2: of the other circuits and the flyaways and it's all

503
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 2: this new experience. His second season, assuming that the Yaprili

504
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: is decent, and I don't see why it wouldn't be

505
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: given we've got so much carryover between twenty five and

506
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: twenty six. His second season is going to be really good,

507
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: I think next year. And he's certainly a guy to

508
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 2: watch and I like the fact that he's he goes

509
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: about it slightly differently.

510
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: He's not just your standard motor GP rider, is he.

511
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: No. I've heard stories that he doesn't train in a

512
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: gym now. His hobbies fishing, you know, like it's just

513
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: so on Moto GP writer esque, Like it's just the opposite,

514
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: and it's so refreshing.

515
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: And he's also completely unimpressed with anything that he does

516
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: as well, Like it's quite funny when you see some

517
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: of his press debriefs and someone be like, oh, that

518
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: was good. You came fifth to day, that was fantastic.

519
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: He's like, that's fine. Like he has high expectations of himself,

520
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: but he's also not going to carry away and get

521
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 2: carried away when he has a decent result. And yeah,

522
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: it's fair to say he doesn't quite ride the emotional

523
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: rollercoaster that some of these guys do.

524
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: He's pretty flat lined.

525
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes it a little bit refreshing. I was

526
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: going to use that one by Yeah, but the emotional

527
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: roller coaster that we had this weekend, Fabuu Coutorao went

528
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: from Q on to Q two to front row to

529
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: sprint podium phenomenal. It's just it's just a Fabio thing.

530
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: Just to do that. You're like, yeah, it's a Fabio

531
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: Corderai thing.

532
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've said this before. There's something with him where,

533
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, I live in this world of sort of

534
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: trying to explain things, or capture the emotion of things,

535
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: or explain stuff through data or whatever it is that

536
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: I've readen here. There's something about Fabio Quatura and the

537
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: energy that he brings at the front of a motor

538
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: GP grid that there's no analysis needed. You just smile

539
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: and you just enjoy it, like watching how ferocious he

540
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 2: was in the early lapse of that sprint in a

541
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: bike that he knows and his opponents know, and we

542
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: know isn't quite up to fighting like that. To my mind,

543
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: I think this season has only enhanced my view that

544
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: he's the second best rider in Motor GP, and I

545
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: don't think it's close. He's accostas the other guy in

546
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: the conversation. In terms of natural talent. Quatta is just

547
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: an awesome rider of these bikes, and it's incumbent on

548
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: Yamaha to give him something with which he can fight

549
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 2: or he has to make a decision. Then, in that

550
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm twenty six years old, I'm still kind of in

551
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: the middle of my prime at this point. He hasn't

552
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: won a world title since twenty one, and he hasn't

553
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: won a race since twenty two. I don't think he

554
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: is worse at all that he was three years ago.

555
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 2: I would actually argue that he's better and seeing these

556
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: occasional weekends where he gets pole or he's up the

557
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: front fighting for stuff he shouldn't be fighting for in

558
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: sprint races. Seriously, seriously impressive and also like to finish

559
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: fifth in that Grand Prix. That's a hard Grand Prix

560
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: because of the tire management. We know that bike's got

561
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: no rear grip. That wasn't a fifth on sort of

562
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: good fortune or anything else. That was completely earned. A

563
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: really convincing result for him, and it just shows you

564
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: if that bike gets anywhere near good, you have a

565
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: look at what teams don't have or what manufacturers don't have.

566
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: They've got a guy that can win races and podiums

567
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: and get into the world championship fight. They just need

568
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: to give him the bike. The hardest thing to find

569
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: is the rider they've got that. They've just got it

570
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: the bike now, they just got to get the bike in.

571
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: But we know they tested in a private test on

572
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: Monday at Barcelona the new engine and there was reports

573
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: coming out that what they were a second slower then

574
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: or Fabio sorry, was a second slower than his best

575
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: time at Barcelona during the race where he was on

576
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: the inline four. For me, he's never ridden an inline

577
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: for Moto GP bike and he's only our second slower.

578
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: I think that's phenomenal. It's like he's going to take

579
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: a long time to have to get to used to

580
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: how the bike works and it feels and the engine

581
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: breaking it everything that's going to be so different to

582
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: be only a second. I mean that was that was rumor.

583
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: Is we have no official time income out, but we'll

584
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: see from Mazano.

585
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And this is why we're you know,

586
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: we're probably going to segue to the Jack Miller story

587
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: to sec This is why Miller's V four experience is

588
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: super important for Yamaha because he's ridden a Hondra and

589
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: a decade and a KTM in that engine configuration. Alex

590
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: Rings has very little V four experience and top RK's

591
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: going to have none next year. So you know, you

592
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: look at the rest of this year now for Yamaha,

593
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 2: and I've read some stuff that you know, Jack has

594
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: come out and said, quite frankly, stick me on a

595
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: V four for the rest of the season if you want,

596
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: like what he's prepared to sacrifice results to try and

597
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: bring the project forward because it is the only way forward.

598
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: And Yamaha still has to take some pain to get

599
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: to a point where their V four can compete with

600
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: the other four manufacturers. But why prolong the pain, Like

601
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: why don't we fast track this now and use the

602
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: second half of a season that you want to hit

603
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: the ground running in twenty six and then what that

604
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: means for twenty seven when we go to the eight fifties.

605
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: There's no point just plodding around now on a bike

606
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: that's going to have an engine that you're going to

607
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: turn your back on anyway. You may as well use

608
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: the back end of this season to get reps on

609
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: this thing. And yes, some of them will break and

610
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: they'll have problems here and it won't work there, and

611
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 2: it will work at other places.

612
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: Why not do that now?

613
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: Get it out of the way, and then you can

614
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: start twenty twenty six. It's a super important year for

615
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: Yamahara in twenty six because you need to convince Quaaterero

616
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: that there's enough performance and promise there that he will

617
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: stay and be your sort of north star, if you like,

618
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: through this new Motor GP red set, because if you

619
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: don't have someone like him, there's very few of these

620
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: guys that are sort of pseudo aliens on the grid

621
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: that are massive difference makers. Katim's got theirs in a

622
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Costa Aprilia, assuming that he stays and when he's fully

623
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: fit and has a proper preseason. Martine has proven that

624
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: he's a world championship quality rider. So they've got theirs.

625
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: Honda A probably still waiting for their we don't quite

626
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: know who that is yet, but they're not quite ready

627
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: to win anyway. But as I said before, like Quaharero,

628
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: takes away any doubt that Yamaha might have, Like if

629
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: we build a great bike, have we got the great

630
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: rider to ride at The answer is one hundred percent yes,

631
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 2: And I'm glad you.

632
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: Moved on to Jack Miller because that was the next

633
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to bring up. So thanks to Yamaha

634
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: and Pramak for letting us record our podcast saying, oh

635
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: my god, were going to get Jack to announce the

636
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: news soon and within that same day, So thanks guys,

637
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: thanks for helping us out this.

638
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: On the other side of that, I am going to

639
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: give lu Chair and Pramak a little bit of a

640
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: hat tip here. When the news broke it was about

641
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: seven pm Australian time on the Thursday of a race weekend,

642
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: which if you're covering murdor GP in Europe, as I do,

643
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 2: seven o'clock is normally breakfast time. Quite frankly, because it's

644
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: normally you know your day's nowhere near starting. So I

645
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: got the heads up about twenty minutes before it was

646
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: going to happen, like this is happening. I looked at

647
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: my watcher, went, oh, this is the greatest thing of

648
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: all time. I'll be able to cover this in said

649
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: hours for once in Malaye. So they helped me on

650
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: that front, but they certainly didn't help us with the

651
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: podcast because I reckon we published that podcast about four

652
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: hours before saying oh, maybe it'll be kicked the long

653
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: to Masado, and then we look like a bunch of vidiots,

654
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: which quite frankly, I don't need any help in doing

655
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: it the best of times. So yeah, so sometimes you win,

656
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: sometimes you lose. But yeah I won on Thursday night,

657
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: but our podcast didn't win last week.

658
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: No, no, no. But the news that Jack is saying

659
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: with Pramak Yamaha, Pramaha, take your drink for twenty twenty

660
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: six is obviously the news we've been waiting for. It

661
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: was just a shame that this weekend obviously didn't play

662
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: out to see Jack's strength. And then Miguel Lavera comes

663
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: along and has his best weekend of the year as well.

664
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: But like you said earlier, it's something we didn't get

665
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: to see on the broadcast, which is a shame. But

666
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: you're hearing about these collisions that were happening further back.

667
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: So what do you know about Jack's results? So Brad

668
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: essentially nudge gym was something and he ended up going

669
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: through the gravel at some point.

670
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think of the way turn three leads

671
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: into turn four at Barcelona, it's that big long radius

672
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: right hand. You know, when you were in the pack there,

673
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: there's three or four lines that gets pretty crazy through there,

674
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: and basically Jack found himself pushed into He basically was

675
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: forced into a position of the track by Binda where

676
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: he could have taken Jugey Martin down with him if

677
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: he'd not sort of checked up, and Martine said he'd

678
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: felt some contact and in the end Jack ended up

679
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: running off into the gravel at the outside of turn four.

680
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 2: So he wasn't just last after one lap. I think

681
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: he was last by about six seconds after one lap,

682
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: and we never actually saw him on the broadcast. For Jack, Yeah,

683
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: there were a few crashes in front of him and

684
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: what have you for Jack to actually his lap times

685
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: are actually pretty good. I think he set the eighth

686
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 2: or ninth fastest lap of the entire race, fighting all

687
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: the way back from there and got himself back into

688
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: the point. So he started fourteenth then finished fourteenth. There's

689
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: one of those ones that on papers like nothing much

690
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: happened there, But what happened was he had to do

691
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: this crazy sort of rescue mission from the back. Actually

692
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: did pretty well, so it's a shame that, you know,

693
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: his race was completely compromised by what happened on the

694
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: first lap. But then I guess the flip side of

695
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: that is if you qualify in that part of the grid,

696
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: then some weeks you end up on the as I

697
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: like to say, some weeks you're the statue. In some

698
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: weeks you're the pigeon. You know, you're either getting crapped

699
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: out or you're doing the crapping basically, And that's what

700
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: happened to Jack on Sunday. So unfortunate, but that's what

701
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: happens when you caullify back there.

702
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who is constantly the pigeon is Frankie Morbidelli.

703
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: Fantastic segue, by the way, For those.

704
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: Who don't know, you can check it out on Fox

705
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: sports dot com du for Slash Motorsport Matt's article, or

706
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: on socials at Fox Motorsport. Frankie Morbidelli just did a

707
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: Frankie Morbidelli weekend once again, and the outcome from Sunday

708
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: was he was handed a two thousand euro fine and

709
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: has to sit out of the first ten minutes of

710
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: FP one on Friday this coming weekend in Mezzano. I

711
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: don't get it now, Matt is at a point where

712
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, So once again, thank you to Simon

713
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: for refreshing my memory. But Jorge Lorenzo had a race

714
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: band right years and years and years ago. Is it

715
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: not something that should be like I know they've spoke

716
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: about it on the race and I don't want to

717
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to repeat that, but I'm going if

718
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: Frankie Morbidelli's having constant penalties in constant situations like this, really,

719
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: is it really necessary that something else should come into

720
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 1: play now?

721
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: So something that I've put in this story is that

722
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: I decided to go and wade through a whole bunch

723
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: of Motor GP official documents because this is what I

724
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: do in my spare time. I clearly need to have

725
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: a life at some point. So the penalties that he

726
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: received penalties plural a catalogia on the weekend are the

727
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: eighth and ninth penalties in the last fourteen months.

728
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: For Franco Morbidelli.

729
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: So you've got a whole bunch of impeding in practice

730
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: one of the favorite Frankie Morbidelli. Things just fall asleep

731
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 2: on the racing line and someone has to check up.

732
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: He's had multiple long lap penalties. Do you remember the

733
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: start of Sylveston twenty twenty four where he just absolutely

734
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: pinballed Mark Oberzeki at the start of that race. He

735
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: took out Fabio Quatura in Thailand last year, which Quaturo

736
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: described as a suicide pass, which was pretty.

737
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: Strong at the time.

738
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: And there's just a repeat offender nature now with Morbidelli

739
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: in that no two incidents are the same, right, so

740
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: we judged them all individually. So what he did to

741
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: Jorge Martin in the sprint race in Catalonia where he

742
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: just completely punted him at turn ten and took them

743
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: both out of the race, that incident was looked in isolation.

744
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: It's like, well, you're clearly at fault. You can have

745
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 2: a long lap penalty for the Grand Prix, and then

746
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: you look at the Grand Prix. Almost took his team

747
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: mate out in the first lap, and then he nudged

748
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: Marco Bozeki. On lap two, Bozeki crashed, and then Degane

749
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 2: Antonio crashed in avoidance of Bozeki. And then you get

750
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: to lap twenty one and Morbidelli crashes by himself and

751
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: then has an argument with the marshals because he wants

752
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: to get the bike back on track and that's why

753
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: he's going to sit out the first ten minutes of

754
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: practice at Massano and slap with a hefty five. There's

755
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: just a pattern of behavior here that I don't know

756
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: if the Motor GP penalty system now allows you to

757
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: appropriately adjudicate, because if someone's getting penalized that many times,

758
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: you know, fourteen month period, the system is the problem,

759
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: not the rider necessarily.

760
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: And what a rider's like to do.

761
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: They like to ride, they like to race, and sometimes

762
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: maybe the way you stop a pattern of behavior say well,

763
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: if you keep doing this, we're going to take away

764
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: the one thing that you love to do the most,

765
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: and you know you forget like Juye Lorenzo as a

766
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: young guy coming through two fifties and then early motor GP,

767
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: he was pretty wild. He spent a lot of that

768
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: first season being very very fast, having some of the

769
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: most assive accidents high sights on that Yamaha that we've

770
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: ever seen. There's a famous photo when they raced in

771
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: China that year of fo basically upside down going into

772
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: the court, absolutely incredible, and then you're thinking about how

773
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: he landed.

774
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

775
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 2: But he needed to calm down. And the way you

776
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: get calmed down is that you get to sit and

777
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: watch doing what you want to do. And so yeah,

778
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: the Morbidelli thing. It's funny with him too, because I mean,

779
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: you know what it's like, you've interviewed him, you've been

780
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: on the other side of it. Off the bike, just

781
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: the most chill guy of all time. Like he looks

782
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: like he should be like riding a skateboard or surfing

783
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: doing something, like he's literally just having that ah yeah,

784
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: Like in the way he speaks, he's a super interesting guy.

785
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: Once the Vizor snapshot he turns into the terminator like

786
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: he's just completely crazy. But there's a pattern of behavior

787
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 2: now with him that if you knew he was beside

788
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: you or behind you in a race, you probably would

789
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: clinch the bars a little bit tighter because you also

790
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: know that there's a history with this guy now that

791
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: he will put his bike in probably an inappropriate place.

792
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 2: And yeah, nine penalties in fourteen months. That it's pretty

793
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: good going, isn't it?

794
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: Well? Mate? I hope I'm not putting on the spot here,

795
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: but who's the closest writer who's had like a amount

796
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: of penalties even just this year?

797
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: Would you know what had off the top of my head,

798
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: I would not have to go back and think of

799
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: people that have got like so. Aldegare is another one

800
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: who also was in the middle of it in a

801
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: catalogy as well, because he punted Berzeki in the sprint Pulbucker.

802
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: Berzeki had a shocker and alder Gare has had incidents

803
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: earlier on this year, like you remember, he was directly

804
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: responsible for Miguel Olivera missing three Grand Prix at the

805
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: start of the year when he punted Olivera in Argentina,

806
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 2: and given the way things have worked out for Olivera,

807
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: I think he was probably on his way out the

808
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: exit door anyway, But that certainly didn't help.

809
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: But I think is Aldigarez that's ready to cut you

810
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: off that he's a rookie.

811
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: Correct, it's exactly right.

812
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: You know, it is his first season in MotoGP. Morbidelli

813
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: has been in Moto GP for multiple years now, twenty

814
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: nineteen his first season, Yep, exactly, And you go, okay, yeah,

815
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: he's got the VR forty six crew have his back.

816
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: You know, he's part of that academy. But I feel

817
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: like that's can only going to take you so far.

818
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: You need to also start being held accountable for your

819
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: actions because it's dangerous.

820
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: But then the other question, and I'll put this to you,

821
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: and I think I know what the answer is. The

822
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: Morbidelli season. And look, he had that horrendous accident in

823
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: Portramout testing your superbike at the start of last year.

824
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: He lost his memory. It was horrible.

825
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: But you think last year he didn't fire a shot

826
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: on the bike that won the world championship. With Juje

827
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: Martin on the sister side of the garage, and the

828
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: fact that Marco Bozeki left VR forty six to go

829
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: to Aprilia, they had a vacancy to fill. Valentino Rossi

830
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: as you know, Morbidelli's protege of that academy. He handed

831
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: him a career lifeline, and then they've just resigned him

832
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: again for twenty twenty six on the eve of the

833
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: Catalan Grand Prix, where he spent most of the weekend

834
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: playing ten binbling. Is anyone else signing Franko Morbidelli at

835
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: this point?

836
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: No?

837
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: Correct?

838
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And as much as we love having the drama

839
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: and the excitement, there's just a line where it becomes dangerous.

840
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: It's learned from your actions, learn from your mistakes. If okay, yeah,

841
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: you're the one who probably has the guts right now

842
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: to try and make these moves. Sure, but not at

843
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: the cost of injuring other people, or knocking other people off,

844
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: or constantly getting penalized for it.

845
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: The one thing we should be thankful for is that

846
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 2: Elisia Spargo is still doing wildcarts for Honda, So every

847
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: sort of three or four races we get a resumption

848
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: of the one of the most bizarre, long lasting and

849
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: fractious rivalries in Moto GP. Whoever knew that we needed

850
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: an Elisias Spargaro Franken Morbidelli rivalry, But.

851
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: I'm here for it.

852
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: For sure. It gives us something to talk about. Oh yeah,

853
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: but let's move on too, off track, because I know

854
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: we had a lot do unpack on track this weekend.

855
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: But off track, we're getting some of the little taste

856
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: now of the Liberty f one world starting to merge

857
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: into Moto GPS. So hopefully I'm gonna say his name right,

858
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: I know you know him very well. Matt Gunda Steiner

859
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: has seen the deal. Yeah, look, I'll take it with

860
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: Melsey accent, but he sealed the deal as the new

861
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: owner of tech TWA that I know I got right.

862
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: So Jave Pontorreal, who is nearing on seventy can you

863
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: believe it? He's going to finally take that step back.

864
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: And we saw Gunta Gunta this weekend. Yeah, yeah, we

865
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: saw him this weekend in Barcelona. There was a big

866
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: press announcement about that and he was there all weekend.

867
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: And what a result for a Navashanini to get on

868
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: the podium. Gunda's there in the crowd. Obviously, Pedro Costa

869
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: took the risk on the software and that would have

870
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: been interesting. But what's your take on this, Matt? Is

871
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: it a Liberty move? Is it a Gunda move because

872
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: we know what he's like as a businessman and an

873
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: entrepreneur and a team manager.

874
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's more it's a happy coincidence, shall

875
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 2: we say, because if you so, if you listen to

876
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: or read anything that going said in the past six

877
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: months or so, he's been looking to do this for

878
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: a while, so we know that he's been you know,

879
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: he's not working with hass anymore in Formula one. He's

880
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: Formula one team managerial days are over. He's written a

881
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: couple of books, he does a lot of corporate stuff,

882
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: which is where I've had a lot of involvement with

883
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: him over the years. He's been looking to get into

884
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: Motor GP for a while. So this isn't Liberty pushing

885
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: Steiner into Motor GP. This is Steiner wanting to do

886
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: something with an investment group that he's the head of

887
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: to try and get involved in this. I think people

888
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: coming from Formula one, which is a world that I've

889
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time, and obviously they look at

890
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: Motor GP and they see Formula Formula one. People almost

891
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: to a person, love Motor GP because they love the

892
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: purity of the racing and the risk taking and how

893
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: unfiltered is it? Oh my god, this is unbelievable. This

894
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: is like the world's best kept see here. They also

895
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: look at the teams as a product as being massively undervalued,

896
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: in that you can buy yourself a piece on the

897
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: motor GP grid for one tenth one hundredth of water

898
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: Formula one team might cost. And you're looking at what

899
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: Steiner ran, a pretty lean and mean operation in f one,

900
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: probably the team that spends the least amount of money

901
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: in Haas, and you'll look at a motor GP operation

902
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: and it be like, that's worth that much, and so

903
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: you look at it in terms of return on investment.

904
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: The right time to get into motor GP, if you're

905
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: coming from Fye or for anyone else, would be pretty

906
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: much right now. Because Liberty Media will enhance the storytelling

907
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: and the marketing of this series. That's an absolute given.

908
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: I'd be super surprised if Liberty Media does anything to

909
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: the sporting product per se, because the sporting products is

910
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: in a pretty good place right. It's not the story

911
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: that needs to be changed, it's the story telling that

912
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: needs to be changed, and that's where Liberty is going

913
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: to come in. So I think it's more in ansty

914
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: a question, more a confluence of circumstance that Steiner has

915
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: come in just after the Liberty thing has all become official.

916
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: But you can't discount, like how many times over the

917
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: weekend did we see that story and the press conference

918
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: and there's Steiner on the pitwall. The visibility that a

919
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: person like him who brings a totally different audience into

920
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: Motor GP, the publicity and the exposure that that brings,

921
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: I reckon everyone wins, right because Steiner's looking at Motor

922
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: GP being as far less of a stressful thing to

923
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: do in terms of his day to day than Formula

924
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: one was. But Motor GP can sort of hitch its

925
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: wagon to the popularity and the exposure that this guy brings,

926
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: and he won't be the last. I think that's the

927
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: other part about all this. And a lot of people

928
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: in Formula one or look at Motor GP and go,

929
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: you know what, he's a really really good sporting product.

930
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: They all love the sporting product, but from a financial

931
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: investment point of view, it's probably seen as being pretty undervalued.

932
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: With Liberty being involved, now the values of these teams

933
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: and these entities are already going up right mentioned Herve

934
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: is near on seventy years old. God, I hope I

935
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 2: have the energy that he does when I get to

936
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 2: that point, because he doesn't act like your standard seventy

937
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: year old, but you look at from you know where

938
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: he's come from and where he's been. It's absolutely the

939
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: right time to do something like this because he's not

940
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: going to be around forever. And handing the team over

941
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: to a consortium led by a guy who is a racer,

942
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 2: is a bit of a maverick at a walking sound bite,

943
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: and all of those things that we love about Herve.

944
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: It's almost like.

945
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 2: A sort of their kindred spirits in a lot of ways.

946
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: I think it's a really good match. And their press

947
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: conference they did on Friday at Catalonia was a hilarious

948
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: and b it was like two old mates that were

949
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: just said of sitting having a chat. You know, they

950
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: obviously don't know each other super super well, but it

951
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: felt like very there was a lot of synergy between

952
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: the two of them. Was actually really nice to watch.

953
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: I think for me though the thing was on the

954
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: broadcast and I know that they have to promote it

955
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: by you know, Matt, but was saying a lot you

956
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: know this is happening, This is happening. Okay, really trying

957
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: to get it out there, but it was almost like

958
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: it's a lot that we're hearing of. Good though, I

959
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: don't want that to be necessarily the case of yeah,

960
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: he's bringing a lot, he's bringing his platform and his

961
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: brand and everything like that, but you don't want also

962
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: take away from the fact that this is Moto GP

963
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: and theorizer on the bike, so there needs to be

964
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: that balance.

965
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing with Steiner for anyone in this

966
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: audience that doesn't know because I'm as I reference every

967
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: podcast old and have been around Formula one for a

968
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: really really long time, Steiner is like an accidental celebrity,

969
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: which is quite bizarre because he was in Formula one

970
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: for so he was going as far back as when

971
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: Jaguar were in Formula one. Now if anyone doesn't realize,

972
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: Jaguar became Red Bull Racing, so he goes back to

973
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: the beginning of the two thousands, has an engineering background,

974
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: He's done some work with NASCAR. He is a very

975
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: very accomplished motorsports CV in a number of different series,

976
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: and then the Drive to Survive thing took off in

977
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen or twenty twenty or whatever it was. And

978
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: he has been as baffled as by how he's just

979
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: become this sort of celebrity, because the good thing you

980
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: see in that particular program is the same guy he's

981
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: been for twenty years. It's just that more people are

982
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: paying attention to it now. And the way he acts

983
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: and the way he is with people, and the authenticity

984
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: with which he presents himself. This is no act for

985
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: the cameras. Like he is always said, he doesn't understand

986
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: the whole drive to Survive thing, and he's never watched

987
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 2: one episode of it. He couldn't care less because he's

988
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: just doing what he does. It's just that people are

989
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: now paying attention. So he's as baffled by all of

990
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: this as anybody else. Now, obviously there's ways you can

991
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: make that pay for you financially, but he's completely over himself.

992
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: He's not doing this for him or for his brand

993
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: or anything else. He's looking at this is Oh, this

994
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: is an undervalued investment that I'd like to get involved in.

995
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: This looks fun.

996
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: I really like motor GP and if all of the

997
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: eyeballs and the attention and the marketing spend and the

998
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: popularity of the sport grows as a consequence. Great, but

999
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: that's not why he's in it.

1000
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: That is so refreshing to hear because I know that

1001
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: there's rumors also circling around at the moment about Max

1002
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: Verstappen and we know Lowis Hamilton both rumored as looking

1003
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: to buy Moto GP teams. And the thing with me

1004
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: is when you hear that, you go, oh, it's a

1005
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: publicity's sun And this has all come out after the

1006
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: Goodtha news blah blah blah. But I've heard previous interviews

1007
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: where Max Verstappan will say, oh, come in from a session,

1008
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: finish my debrief and then I'll go and watch Moto GP.

1009
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: And Lowis Hamilton has said multiple times how much he

1010
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: loves it. We know he's ridden with Cal Crutchler and

1011
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: Valentino ROSSI. Yeah, so when I hear rumors like this

1012
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: now coming out about Max and Lewis potentially buying it,

1013
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: it does answer. I agree with what you were just saying,

1014
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: is the fact that people are seeing Moto GP and

1015
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: now they're wanting to get it out into that for them,

1016
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: for the world.

1017
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Max is, like Max is just a guy

1018
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: who's a racer through and through, like he's not necessarily

1019
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: in a fine for all of the associated stuff, like

1020
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: he hates most of it. He just wants to basically drive,

1021
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: and he's like a bit of an old soul in

1022
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: that respect. And you look at what he does.

1023
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 3: He does a lot of sim racing.

1024
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: He's racing at the Norch Life for in Neburg agreg

1025
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: and a touring car this weekend. He likes to do

1026
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. Motor GP is just another form

1027
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: of motorsport that he's interested in. And if you have

1028
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: the financial means to do so and get involved with

1029
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: something that Formula one, people look at motor GP and

1030
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: go it only costs that much to really get involved

1031
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: and have a piece of it, because relative to Formula

1032
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 2: one everything looks inexpensive, right, So it's a business decision

1033
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: for guys who are really into a particular sport. Now

1034
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: it's conflicting resports with reports with the verstapp and stuff

1035
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: in that SkySports. Italy said that he'd been talking to

1036
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: a prelier in Honda satellite teams and then the race

1037
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: and his management for Stappens management kind of walked that

1038
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: back and said, look, there's a genuine interest, but we're

1039
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: not doing something yet. But I think the keyword in

1040
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: that is yet. I would expect that to escalate and

1041
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: right now. If you've got the means to get involved

1042
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: in motor GP, it's the classic thing about buying the

1043
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: best house in the worst street right now. You want

1044
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 2: to buy now.

1045
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: This is what you want to do.

1046
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: You want to get in now because this thing's only

1047
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: going to go up. And I think the fact that

1048
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 2: you've got interested parties coming from a sport that's got

1049
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 2: the global profile that F one has, I think both

1050
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: sports can be winners out of this, and I'm really

1051
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: looking forward to see where it goes.

1052
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: I do too, And I think, you know, our listener's

1053
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: here old MONOGP fans, and if you don't cross over

1054
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: to F one, I appreciate that and I respect that.

1055
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: But to hear that big names like this, it's like

1056
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: when Valentino went and did the GT racing. Look how

1057
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: muchd that sport? Right? Or think about Michael Jordan when

1058
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: he went to do baseball after basketball. It's the same thing.

1059
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: It's that crossover, and I think it's refreshing in the

1060
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: fact that it brings different eyeballs and it only promotes

1061
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: our sports, so it means we get more access to

1062
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: things and we can see it, and it's not going

1063
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: to fade away into.

1064
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: Nothing, not at all. Everyone eats. It's the best possible

1065
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: outcome for all of this.

1066
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: So if you have stuck around this long, thank you

1067
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: very much. I know we've offfered on about Catalunya a lot,

1068
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: but there was a bloody lot to catch up on

1069
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: for that weekend. Let's look ahead to Mazzanos, which is

1070
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: also known as San Marino or it's officially known as

1071
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: the Rais with the world's longest name. Are you guys ready?

1072
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: Deep rat red Bill, Grandfria San Marino and the Rimini

1073
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: Riviera Mezzano World Circuit. Marco Simon Shelly.

1074
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: Sorry I had I just had a nap while you're

1075
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: doing that. I just be just caught up with all

1076
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: the sleep. But he can get over the catalog in

1077
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: your weekend. It is no wonder we all just used

1078
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: Masada as shorthand. It's the f wide equivalent to this

1079
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: is that the race that Imla has a similarly ridiculous

1080
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: name with a couple of sponsors in there as well

1081
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: as well. That everyone just shrugs and goes imla, so

1082
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: it's kind of the same thing. So mesado is shorthand

1083
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: for I don't want to say thirty seven words to

1084
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: get the name out. But pitty, poor Matt Bert. We're

1085
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: talking about Matt before you know that, he'll be contractually

1086
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: obliged to get the entire name out at some point

1087
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: and we'll be like ten minutes into FPY before he

1088
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: goes it.

1089
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, if you are listening to Matt's broadcast,

1090
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, and take a drink from mart when he

1091
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: does have to say the twenty word circuit name. But

1092
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: let's quickly talk about this. If you guys are hanging around,

1093
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: thank you so much, Gris. We know it's one of

1094
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: their home races. Last year they had that iconic falsto

1095
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: the White and the Blue. Livery hopefully to see that

1096
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: again this weekend. Let's refresh our memories to last year

1097
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: because it was dramatic. We had that flag to flag.

1098
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: Joge Martin came in while Peco Manyaya stayed out. Do

1099
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: you remember that iconic shot of Jogey looking as Peco's

1100
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: going down the front straight and you could just see

1101
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: the heartbreak there going what have I done uh huh

1102
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: Mark one last year. Obviously, flag this is his strong point.

1103
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: But the thing is with this circuit, Matt, you know

1104
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: this de Vuilant not far down the road. All of

1105
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: the VR forty six Academy pretty much lived within us

1106
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't know half an hour window of this circuit.

1107
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: So let's call this the VR forty six Academy Writer's

1108
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: Home Grand Prix because this.

1109
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: Is what it is, right, yeah, it is. I mean,

1110
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: this is the track that I mean.

1111
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: I know everyone does a load of track laps at Cashiludia,

1112
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: but that's everyone regardless of nationality, where this is like

1113
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 2: almost the truest true home race for the Italian on

1114
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: the grid because they've all done ten million laps around there.

1115
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: And that's why when we get to prediction time in

1116
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: a minute, I've got a slightly left field one for you,

1117
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: but I think this is like a proper home court advantage,

1118
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 2: home field advantage.

1119
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: Whatever you want to call it.

1120
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: So, going back to where we were about half an

1121
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: hour ago, if Peco Vanual is going to do anything

1122
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 2: for the rest of the season, it might be here

1123
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: because you're not going to be spending a lot of

1124
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: time mucking around on circuit characteristics and layout and what

1125
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: have you. Maybe this is the weekend just to get

1126
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: on the bike, Pecko and just ride the thing and

1127
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: see what happens, because.

1128
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: If you do that, then something good to probably go

1129
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:33,479
Speaker 3: to happen.

1130
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: Will you look at like the stats? Right, he has

1131
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: most of the records from last year. If I go

1132
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: into the most polls, he's equal to Maverick, Viannalez and

1133
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: juorhe Lorenzo at this circuit. Right, Okay, most wins is

1134
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: Mark Marquez, but Pecos consistently there with all the other stats,

1135
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: so I don't discard that at all. My question to

1136
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: you is what we predicted the last weekends. I'm going

1137
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: to throw me into this because I agree with you.

1138
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: We thought that Joge Martin was going to be closer

1139
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: to the front in catalog.

1140
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Aprillier had a shocker.

1141
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: Aprilli had a shocker, so we won't hold him to that.

1142
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: But is this weekend? Is is this another a circuit

1143
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: where we could see its suit Martine the aprilia and

1144
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: he'd been that little bit closer to the front.

1145
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 2: Martin's biggest issue right now and he's been saying that himself.

1146
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: Is that the thing that he's been so good at

1147
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: through his motor GP career qualifying just that one lap, Like,

1148
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: my god, where did that lap come from? He doesn't

1149
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: have the reps and the confidence yet on that aprillia

1150
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: to do that. So that's why he's finding himself racing

1151
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: in the pack because he's getting knocked out in Q

1152
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: one and he's just buried down the grid a little bit.

1153
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: The thing about his Ducady time is that once he

1154
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: was comfortable in motor GP, he would routinely do things

1155
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: in qualifying where you do a double take when you

1156
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: looked at the timing, like what on Earth's how and

1157
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: how was he six tenths of a second up to

1158
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: two thirds of the way through the qualifying lap. So

1159
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: he hasn't got that yet, and I think that's just

1160
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: a matter of time and reps and experience. So it's

1161
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: probably two early necessarily to expect him to do that.

1162
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 3: Now. Do I expect him to be in Q two

1163
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: this weekend? This is a strong circuit for him. YEA.

1164
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me if he gets into Q two,

1165
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: but I don't think he's quite ready to be qualifying

1166
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: on the front row yet. It'd be nice if he

1167
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: proved me wrong because we know how good he is

1168
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 2: in a situation like that. But it still strikes me

1169
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: as a being a little bit too early for that.

1170
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 2: But by the end of the season maybe, but maybe

1171
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: not yet.

1172
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: Okay, So you mentioned I was going to bring out predictions,

1173
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: So that's the perfect segue in, Matt, I'm sure you've

1174
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: got some good options for me. Tell me who's going

1175
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: to win this weekend.

1176
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: And who's going to wouldn't it be funny even though

1177
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: he can't win the championship if Mark Marquez won this

1178
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: weekend in Massano. But I've got someone here that I'm

1179
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: not going to rule out for the victory because he's

1180
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: won here before and he's very very good. He's in

1181
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: good for the bike's going really well. This could be

1182
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: in an AA Bastia any weekend.

1183
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: Oh, that is very nat field.

1184
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: He won the second race there at Mesado last year,

1185
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: the Amelia Romania round, which had an even longer name

1186
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: than the San Marino round, and you may remember that

1187
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: he got himself in the middle of the Bagno Martine,

1188
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: you know, won two fight for that. Bana crashed out

1189
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: of his own accord in that race, and they have

1190
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: put what would be described as a robust move on

1191
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: Juge Martin on the last lap of that race. I

1192
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: don't know whether it should have been penalized or not,

1193
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 2: but he wasn't going to stick around to find out.

1194
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: He's always really good around here. You remember he was

1195
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: taking podiums on like third string of Vintia Ducatties and

1196
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: things back in the day. He's exceptionally good at this track.

1197
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: Another guy who has cut a million laps around this place,

1198
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: and Aya is very much a confidence rider. And you

1199
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: look at the way he got himself through to third

1200
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: place at Cashalod. You didn't qualify well because he often doesn't.

1201
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: But in races we know when he's in the sweet

1202
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: spot because of a very particular way that he rides

1203
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: the bike. I don't know if it's the best way

1204
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: a lot of the time, but my god, it's good

1205
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 2: when it's good. And he's been in a really good

1206
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: frame of mind the last few rounds. He was really

1207
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: fast in Hungry and then had that crash, a terrifying

1208
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: crash at the start of that race there, so we

1209
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: never got to see how that played out. But seeing

1210
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: Bashi any on the podium and maybe even splitting a

1211
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: couple of ducaddies would not surprise me in the slightest.

1212
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: I think it's really cool you're talking about splitting the

1213
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: digit caddies. And just to go back to Cataluna, we

1214
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: had every manufacturer in the top ten again that race.

1215
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: We can so this is the cool thing now and

1216
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: you wrote abound it. We said it before. It's not

1217
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: the ju Caddi Cup. It's multiple and manufacturers. Now, okay,

1218
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: it's Mark Marcus is going to win the championship, not

1219
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: this week, get a Misano, but it's going to happen.

1220
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: Marcus brothers one too. But it's every manufacturer is in there,

1221
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 1: and that's what we love to see in Moto GP.

1222
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: It is Ducati still out front, but the chasing pack

1223
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 2: is closing. And if that leads us to we often

1224
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: get in World motorsport when you get a rule regulation

1225
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: set that's about to expire, like Motor GP, we'll in

1226
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six last year of these rigs. You often

1227
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: get everyone sort of basically coming to the same solution

1228
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: to the one problem. And if that makes for a

1229
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 2: really really competitive twenty twenty six, I mean, yeah, Mark's

1230
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: probably going to win the championship if he doesn't hurt

1231
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: himself or whatever. But I think the fight next year

1232
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: could be really quite fun because you're going to have

1233
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: a lot of people coming from different directions and we're

1234
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: all settling on a similar solution here. So this season

1235
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: shots just a better of when Mark wins it. But

1236
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: super looking forward to twenty six because I like to

1237
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: be optimistic about these things.

1238
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: Well, yes, we're excited for twenty six. Villa's also be

1239
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: excited this weekend for are you ready? Red Bull Grand

1240
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: Prix of sam Marino and the Rimini Riviera Mezzano World Circuit,

1241
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: Marco sim and Shellie Round four hundred and fifty of

1242
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: however many this year, so don't forget guys. You can

1243
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: watch every session live and ad break free on Fox

1244
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: Sports and KO Plus. Keep up to date with all

1245
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: of Matt's articles on our website at foxsports dot com

1246
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: dot Au, Forward Slash at Motorsport, and we are on

1247
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: the social channels at Fox Motorsport or Fox Sports OZ everywhere.

1248
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: But from Matt Clayton and myself, that's enough from us

1249
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: on Pittook. But we're gonna be back real soon with

1250
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: more Moto GP Pittook