WEBVTT - NAIDOC Isn't Just For Blak People

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to First things first, I'm Matty Meals. My pronouns

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<v Speaker 1>are he and him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Brook Blatton. My pronouns as she and her.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we get started, we'd like to acknowledge the

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<v Speaker 1>custodians of the land on which were record and today

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<v Speaker 1>for me that's the gaddigle people of the urination and

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<v Speaker 1>for me it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Surroundering people of the cool a nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's get into it. Oh well, it's a Nadoc week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, how black week of the month of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. I feel real black, real, you know, always.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, always, I'm a black phil every day and I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if I was, if I was a range of

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<v Speaker 3>how toast I am, I would be burnt toast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would be crispy burnt toast with that button

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<v Speaker 1>night trying to scrape off the little bit of like.

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<v Speaker 4>Extra charred, trying to savor that.

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<v Speaker 2>Bread, stiff and stale as it is too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, this year the theme is keep the fire burning,

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<v Speaker 1>don't burn the toast.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't burn the toast. That's right, keep.

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<v Speaker 2>The fire burning, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But don't burn the toast. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's next week's next year, next week. That's next year's name.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's the theme for Reconciliation Week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we are definitely filling the vibes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, talk about keep the fire burning. We are on

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<v Speaker 3>fire today. We are having a ball of fun and

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<v Speaker 3>so excited for this episode, for this week, for this

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<v Speaker 3>year as always, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Like NATOK is one of my favorite weeks. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>What, it just kind of always like people think that

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<v Speaker 3>NATOK Week is only just for Black Fellows, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>for everyone. But it's like it's an invitation all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, But it's like for blackfellows within the community.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like I'm going to show how black I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Show how proud we are to be Black fellows, show

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the struggle and the challenges of our community,

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<v Speaker 1>but also the success and the.

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<v Speaker 4>Beauty and the black joy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that there are so many activations of

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<v Speaker 1>cross the country. There are the NADOC balls, there are

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<v Speaker 1>you know, different channels doing specific broadcasts. There are events, there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Community days, community days released.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of Black fellows release music in this time.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it is just you know, a moment for

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<v Speaker 1>us or to be really proud of who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>And and look, you know at our community and see

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<v Speaker 1>how much we've achieved and how much you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>is still to go. And that's what the fire burning

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<v Speaker 1>is all about. Keep the fire burning. It really comes

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<v Speaker 1>off the back of you know, a really tough you

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<v Speaker 1>for mob when it came to the referendum and how

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<v Speaker 1>much that affected I feel, like, you know, so many

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<v Speaker 1>of us, no matter whether you voted yes or no,

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<v Speaker 1>it affected us as black fellows. And because it allowed

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<v Speaker 1>the country to vote on our identity and our value,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose and unfortunately, you know, we didn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>yes in that referendum. But that doesn't mean that the

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<v Speaker 1>work stops. That doesn't mean that the investment into our

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<v Speaker 1>people stops in terms of you know, government investment. But

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<v Speaker 1>also it doesn't mean that the rest of Australia and

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<v Speaker 1>the community out there aren't proud of us as franslations.

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<v Speaker 2>We aren't proud of yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So keep the fire burning is all about making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we are continuing to you know, share the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>parts of our community and also work on the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>that we face as a community and the disadvantage that

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<v Speaker 1>we face due to colonization in this country. So I

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<v Speaker 1>like the theme. How has the theme sat with you?

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I've always felt this as well, Like every

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<v Speaker 3>time I do a speech or talk or i'm with

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<v Speaker 3>kids and I think of passion, I think of culture.

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<v Speaker 3>I always think like I have a fire in my

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<v Speaker 3>belly that is like raring to go, and I never

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<v Speaker 3>feel like it's ever ever and will ever go out.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think this kind of this theme sort of

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<v Speaker 3>reiterates that feeling but also shows I guess, the strength

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<v Speaker 3>and the the passion.

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<v Speaker 2>I always think of things in color.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wearing red today and I feel like that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of for me is showing the passion and the strength

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<v Speaker 3>and the fire that's my belly. Yeah, I love all

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<v Speaker 3>of the themes. One year I posted the themes of

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<v Speaker 3>Nadock from the earliest when they first started, you know

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<v Speaker 3>how they would have themes or posters, And I think

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<v Speaker 3>every year it's just been so applicable to how mob

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<v Speaker 3>of feeling and the community voice. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>so important that to hear that this theme kind of

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<v Speaker 3>encompasses our voice. Even regardless of what the voice referendum

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<v Speaker 3>told us or said to us, we don't care. We're

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<v Speaker 3>still moving on We're still going. We're going to continue

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<v Speaker 3>to show up. Keep the fire burning is like the

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<v Speaker 3>best representation, but I also love the notion and spirituality

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<v Speaker 3>it has to land as well. We know that fire

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<v Speaker 3>is such a central place of our community. Sometimes for

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<v Speaker 3>community gatherings, we smoke to release and get rid of cleanse. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So as long as that fire is, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>still burning, there's so much healing still happening as well

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<v Speaker 3>in the process.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love that. I feel like you have encapsulated

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what this theme is about. When I heard about

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<v Speaker 1>this theme, I feel like for me, I asked myself

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<v Speaker 1>the question, what is the fire for me?

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<v Speaker 4>And the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Which lives with inside me? I feel like, isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>gas that you're thinking of? You know, she loves she

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<v Speaker 1>loves the fart jokes.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to pop that in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am talking about the pride that I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say this, you know, I've said this for

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<v Speaker 1>a number of years and I've felt this, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>I've had to explain to people what it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a black fellow. There is nothing more exciting, There is

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<v Speaker 1>nothing more deep within my soul or feeling or emotion

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<v Speaker 1>that gets me red up or gets me fired up,

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<v Speaker 1>or gets me inspired. Then the idea that you know

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<v Speaker 1>as a blackfellow, the pride that I feel inside me

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<v Speaker 1>is the fuel to my fire, and it's the first

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<v Speaker 1>and last thing I you know, constantly think about. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how proud I am to be a Black Feller, How

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<v Speaker 1>proud I am to be, you know, a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest living culture or the planet. How proud I

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<v Speaker 1>am to see how far we've come When I think

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<v Speaker 1>about my dad's life and the experiences that he had

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<v Speaker 1>as a young man on the mission, and the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>and the racism and the stereotypes that he faced. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I am a vision of my dad in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>and it feels like we've.

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<v Speaker 4>Come a long way.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fire is burning, the fire is strong, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like when you think about while we do

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<v Speaker 1>what we do, it's about that you know that fire

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<v Speaker 1>in our belly to make a difference, for our people,

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to make a path forward so that the

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<v Speaker 1>future generations can be proud of who we are. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and I always it always comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>the why, and I know that we do it for

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<v Speaker 1>our community.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of the stuff that.

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<v Speaker 1>We push for or break down those barriers for, or

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<v Speaker 1>are the first in that room for. It's because of

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<v Speaker 1>our community, and this week highlights that at another scale.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's really important for people outside of

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<v Speaker 1>our community to get amongst it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, like I talked about that invitation, like it's

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<v Speaker 3>NATOC week. You know. My earliest childhood memory of Nadock

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<v Speaker 3>was when I was in primary school and everyone just

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<v Speaker 3>thought Nadock was this really sort of I guess back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day from and the community that grew up in,

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<v Speaker 3>it always seemed like this very tokenistic kind of week

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<v Speaker 3>where it would be like, you know, they'd have some

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<v Speaker 3>mob come in kiok some kangaroo stew and damper and

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<v Speaker 3>give it to all the kids and would all sit

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<v Speaker 3>around and you know that there wasn't like much more

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<v Speaker 3>into the.

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<v Speaker 2>Why of it. It was just oh, we just do this.

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<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't until later, I guess, in the in

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<v Speaker 3>my education era and learning so much more about the

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<v Speaker 3>history that I understood sort of the where this comes

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<v Speaker 3>from and why we do it, and and I want

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<v Speaker 3>my kids to know that earlier on. I want young

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<v Speaker 3>people to know why we do nado earlier on as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just fucking kangaroos, doo and Damper, which which

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<v Speaker 3>we love. It was such a great childhood memory and

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<v Speaker 3>I used to love it, but it's so much more

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<v Speaker 3>to what is NATOC and yeah, and it's such an

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<v Speaker 3>offering or an invitation for people to also do that

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<v Speaker 3>learning and understand it too. And I guess come to

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<v Speaker 3>come to the party, like come to the come to

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<v Speaker 3>the committee, come to the cult.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. NATOK has been going on for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time now, and obviously it started off as a protest

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<v Speaker 1>and a way for recognition of First Nations people, challenges,

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<v Speaker 1>struggle and also a way for us to be heard.

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<v Speaker 1>We go back to that voice. Now NATOK is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different. It feels like more of a celebration,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is definitely still that protest element to it,

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<v Speaker 1>that fight element to it. It is a week for

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<v Speaker 1>us to be able to have a national focus on

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<v Speaker 1>our community and I love that the rest of Australia

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<v Speaker 1>gets to see Black Fellows in a different light within

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<v Speaker 1>this week. A lot of the time, our stereotypes have

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<v Speaker 1>perpetuated throughout the media throughout the year. When it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to NATOCK, it feels like there's a lot of lightheartedness,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of joy, there's a lot of positivity

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<v Speaker 1>that is reflected from our community. So I love seeing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love seeing the balls that happen around the country,

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<v Speaker 1>black fellows getting dressed up and you know, feeling themselves

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<v Speaker 1>and looking amazing and having you know, a celebration of

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<v Speaker 1>who we are. But I also love the conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>That sharing, the community events that it's just so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I remember Miss Nadock like a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a huge like pageant type leadership thing for women,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just I love that time of NADOK because

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<v Speaker 3>it's like there's this crowning and it's beautiful and it

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<v Speaker 3>shows like all of our young women leaders that are

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<v Speaker 3>coming through, Like it's I don't know, I get really

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<v Speaker 3>sentimental around this time of year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that NADOC, you know, I think that it

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to grow, and I think that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a wider community out there that accept you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>they're offering of NADOC. Now. I think, you know, every

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<v Speaker 1>year it becomes bigger, more people get involved from the

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<v Speaker 1>wider community, and it's really about learning, educating, yourself and understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having a more understanding but also more respect

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<v Speaker 1>for First Nations culture across that country. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that and that underpins the value that we hold within

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<v Speaker 1>our nation and the investment from you know, government as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So even though we didn't get the voice, we still

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<v Speaker 1>have these moments throughout the year where where you can

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<v Speaker 1>show your interest or your respect for our community. But

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<v Speaker 1>that should be on and support, but that should be

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<v Speaker 1>on a day to day basis.

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<v Speaker 3>But should But if it's you know, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>week that you you take that initiative and that's the

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<v Speaker 3>week that you like, you know, you invest and you

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<v Speaker 3>are taking that invitation or you know, that's that's great, cool, welcome,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>But also if you you know, use this week as

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<v Speaker 1>a tokenistic way to show you your your performative performative allyship,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's it's we'd rather have you step

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<v Speaker 1>aside and not be involved. You know, especially companies who

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<v Speaker 1>are doing one off activations throughout the year in this

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<v Speaker 1>week where they you know, show their support but then

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any fundamental you know, support within their their

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<v Speaker 1>organization for First communities outside of that one panel that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to host in NADOC week. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's performative allyship, and that stuff can be actually quite detrimental.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think we can read through it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think people can see for what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I do know that there are also some great collaborations

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<v Speaker 3>and great things that come out of Nateoff that aren't

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<v Speaker 3>tokenistic and aren't performative.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing that like you're not really you're doing yourself a

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<v Speaker 3>disservice and we can read through it.

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<v Speaker 2>People can see that, and it's not credible, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I think you know, take a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a tip out of our book, if you may,

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<v Speaker 3>and just understand that, Yeah, like performative allyship doesn't serve

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<v Speaker 3>you as a business organization or brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only just saying like we just don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>And that also reflects weak morals exactly, and that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, practice what you preach, and I think that's what

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<v Speaker 3>we sort of take into account and we think accountability

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<v Speaker 3>is just the most important thing to have. When you

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<v Speaker 3>say you're going to do something, do it and do

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<v Speaker 3>it genuinely with reason and tention. And also like not

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<v Speaker 3>just from a gaining perspective, like you don't gain anything,

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<v Speaker 3>if anything, you lose because you lose our respect as

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<v Speaker 3>First Nations people. If this is the week that you

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<v Speaker 3>decide that you're going to do something like that, it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't serve anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you know what, if it's the first time

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing something like that, make that clear. Make it no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't try and hide behind the fact that you've never

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<v Speaker 1>done anything in your life or you know the community

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden you're putting on this event.

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<v Speaker 1>Make that known, say this is the first time we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. We have further investment into having these conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to be implementing a rap plan. We

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be trying to get a deeper understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of the community throughout the you know, throughout our journey

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<v Speaker 1>from this point on. But if you haven't done it

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<v Speaker 1>before and you feel like, oh, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>start in eight or Q week, don't have that theor

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<v Speaker 1>either you know, like you can start conversation, be open

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have had these conversations, and there's been many

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<v Speaker 3>of times where I've been asked to speak at events

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<v Speaker 3>and etcetera. And I've turned it down, and especially during

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<v Speaker 3>this week, I'm like, I don't hear from you for months, years,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden you come out of the

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<v Speaker 3>wood work.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, like what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>And it's about asking the question, having the conversation, and

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<v Speaker 3>having the courage to say, Okay, well, then what's what's

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<v Speaker 3>happening moving forward? Like you said exactly, rap plan, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>more voices on the board, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've decided to do my first of a jewelry

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<v Speaker 2>collaboration and love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've never done one before and this was really

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<v Speaker 3>special to me because it has been in the works

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<v Speaker 3>for a while, like Beyond Beyond Natoc Week and we

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<v Speaker 3>I specifically decided to choose NATOC Week because I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's a way of celebrating for me. But also the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that I love is wearing something that you feel

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<v Speaker 3>really proud of, and that's something for me. NADOC Week

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<v Speaker 3>I do a lot, especially wearing like my Aboriginal flag

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<v Speaker 3>T shirt or wearing something that's like I'm black, I'm proud,

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<v Speaker 3>and so wearing something like jewelry every day, I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I'm gonna do it. I'm not you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I would choose to do this any other time, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know what, I feel really like

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<v Speaker 3>good about this year, and I feel like this is

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<v Speaker 3>a perfect time to release something that I've worked so

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<v Speaker 3>hard on and want to show and the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a beautiful meaning. Ten percent of the proceeds go

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<v Speaker 3>to a First Nation's Literacy Foundation, which I'm really proud

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<v Speaker 3>of and I have supported along the journey as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So it doesn't seem anything out of ordinary for me,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think a lot of people would be cautious,

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<v Speaker 3>especially during this time, being like, oh are they going

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<v Speaker 3>to do it more? And I have advocated so Francisco

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<v Speaker 3>Jewelry are releasing this necklace.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coming out Nate Dog Week.

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<v Speaker 3>My quote is standing your Truth, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>really perfect towards the theme of Keep the Fire Burning

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<v Speaker 3>is allowing truth telling and trying to well just own

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<v Speaker 3>and own yourself, own who you are, own your voice,

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<v Speaker 3>find your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's just really powerful quote.

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<v Speaker 3>For me that I've lived my life through, and I

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<v Speaker 3>guess my journey through TV, journey through Bachelorette is just

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<v Speaker 3>being truthful and being and anyone can. Let you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just for blackfellows, like it's it's for anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's the perfect, you know thing for

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<v Speaker 3>me and releasing this is that I want people to

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<v Speaker 3>be coming to the party like I want people to

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm saying to you, like, yeah, stand in your truth,

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<v Speaker 3>like regardless of what situation or where you come from.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a great opportunity to not just buy a

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<v Speaker 3>necklace per se, but also like lives by something that

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<v Speaker 3>accountability or like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also putting your money where your mouth is

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<v Speaker 1>to supporting, you know, the community through that way of

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<v Speaker 1>giving being able to buy something yeah, but you love.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also has contributions to the community in a

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<v Speaker 1>financial way, because financial ways are important. It might seem like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people go on about finances, but the thing

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<v Speaker 1>is it's really hard for black fellows to tap into

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<v Speaker 1>enter generational wealth. So when it comes to finances, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all about paying the rent, paying it back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the paying your way forward into the community. And I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask, you know, based on this theme keep

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<v Speaker 1>the fire burning, what are some things this year that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to extinguish and what are some things, You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to put some more fuel to the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a great question, Mattie.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like I've spoken about this previously where

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm in a bit of a rebirth,

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<v Speaker 3>Like over the couple of years, I've really focused on

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<v Speaker 3>my healing and living in my soft girl era, and

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<v Speaker 3>I guess just kind of pulling back the layers and

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<v Speaker 3>unraveling and in a good way. And I guess like

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<v Speaker 3>unpacking my trauma and my experiences is using them as

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<v Speaker 3>fire to drive myself forward. And it has taken me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, five hundred steps back, but I honestly feel

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<v Speaker 3>like this is going to be such a vital thing

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<v Speaker 3>to my future and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only going to you know, troject me forward obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think for me, I'm learning to not and

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<v Speaker 3>understand that people don't care as much as you think

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<v Speaker 3>that they do, as much as I want people to

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<v Speaker 3>care about the things that matter to me obviously, like

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<v Speaker 3>nay Nook Week and First Nations issues and things like

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<v Speaker 3>that when I walk into a room, people aren't looking

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<v Speaker 3>at me and saying things that I think that they're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, and not having those that

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<v Speaker 3>voice so For me, it's quietening the negative voice that

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<v Speaker 3>I have in my head and how I feel about myself.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's something that I'm not extinguishing completely, just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>quietening a little bit more. And the thing that's giving

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<v Speaker 3>me fire is my creativeness is like putting myself in

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<v Speaker 3>a more creative industry and telling stories and finding my

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<v Speaker 3>voice and that's going to only ever make me stronger

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<v Speaker 3>and probably you know, using my voice as an instrument

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<v Speaker 3>is such a powerful thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what about I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>So excited for you to be going down this creative

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<v Speaker 1>route because I know what it's like to wake up

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<v Speaker 1>every day, and you know what it's like because you've

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<v Speaker 1>carved your own future and your own career and your

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<v Speaker 1>own dreams out for yourself. But to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>wake up and be creative and to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose you know, whenever I'm especially when i'm acting,

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<v Speaker 1>Like for me, they're the best moments, Like they're really

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful days where I'm able to explore not just the

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<v Speaker 1>character but myself. So I'm so excited for you to

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<v Speaker 1>go down this acting journey. And when you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you get a show or when you get a role

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be the first one there in the

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<v Speaker 1>front road, like I'll be supporting you one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the best thing about this is like, if

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<v Speaker 3>I am good at it, great, I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually explored that.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm not, I've also explored that, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's no losing here for me in a situation like this,

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's the fire burning is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, you don't lose things, yes, And.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what we need to tell our younger selves,

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<v Speaker 3>is that exploration is the perfect like way to find

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<v Speaker 3>what you love and what you what you don't love

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well this year for me, the fire burning theme

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<v Speaker 1>and what I'm extinguishing and what I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 1>putting more fuel to, I think more fuel to me

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<v Speaker 1>leaning into my authenticity within all aspects of my career.

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<v Speaker 1>For so long, I feel like I've tried to curate

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<v Speaker 1>a version of myself that appeals to mainstream media. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I've got to a point in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty nine years old where the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>used to find important just aren't important anymore. And instead

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to curate a version of myself that I

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<v Speaker 1>think other people will love. I need to be the

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<v Speaker 1>version that when I look in the mirror, I like yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I wake up, I'm happy to live the

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<v Speaker 1>day with because I'm the person with myself one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the time. So it's like, instead of thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about what do these guys want, what does the media

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<v Speaker 1>want from me? What will propel me forward and what

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<v Speaker 1>will make me successful? Fuck that shit that's gone to decide?

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<v Speaker 1>And what is my authentic voice? What do I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say? What do I want to do? And how

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<v Speaker 1>do I want to be in my house and outside?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, So that's like my my, That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>putting fuel to.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm extinguishing is the fact that, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to manipulate the world and control other people. And that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like quite extreme, but what I mean by that,

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<v Speaker 1>But what I mean by that is allow people to

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<v Speaker 1>be who they are, Allow people who don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>work with you not to work with you. Allow organizations

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to be whitewashed be whitewashed. I'm sick

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to be the person who is like, but

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<v Speaker 1>you guys don't have any black fellows, like you need

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<v Speaker 1>representation you know, I'm going to be working with people

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<v Speaker 1>who genuinely want to nurture that and not being forced

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<v Speaker 1>to do it because as soon as because as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you're forced to, you're in that door, and you're

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:01.880
<v Speaker 1>forcing someone to make choice that they necessarily don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to make, you're going to be in an unsafe environment exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that this is such a powerful movement

0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 3>that's happening. It's like, yeah, remember when businesses and organizations

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.719
<v Speaker 3>used to do like oh, we're doing cultural competency or

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<v Speaker 3>cultural training, et cetera. It's like, we don't want your

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 3>cultural knowledge. We have cultural knowledge. What we need is

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<v Speaker 3>cultural safety, and if you don't have that, that's your problem,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm not working with you. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>the best way to look at moving forward. How first

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<v Speaker 3>nations people will see things too, like.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're creating our own tables exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a great quote by a woman and she says,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's no seat at the table, bring your own

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<v Speaker 3>fucking seat. And I love that saying, but I also

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<v Speaker 3>think make your own table too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited to be able to go down like this,

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<v Speaker 1>like this, this lane in the future of creating what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see instead of appealing to someone for

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<v Speaker 1>me to have an opportunity. You know, like creation is

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<v Speaker 1>where are my heart, my fire sits. I'm creative. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like my main passion, my main driver is like my

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<v Speaker 1>creative side, so I can create what I want to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to be out there, you know, begging people,

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<v Speaker 1>begging the masses, or begging commercial networks to be like

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<v Speaker 1>hey please, you know, like give me an opportunity. Fuck

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<v Speaker 1>that shit, I'm going to create my own. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think based on that, like that, that's the energy I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going into NATOC week with as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, I love that. That's a great end

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<v Speaker 3>way to end. Well, Happy Natock weeky mob, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>we all know natog Week is every week of the

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<v Speaker 3>fifty two weeks of every day, exact day.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we hope you have a great Nadoc Week.

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<v Speaker 3>We hope you have a nice, safe, Natock week, and

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<v Speaker 3>we hope that you are keeping the fire absolutely burning.

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<v Speaker 3>And thank you so much for listening to us and

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<v Speaker 3>learning from us, and we learn from you, and we

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<v Speaker 3>just we love sharing our story and we want to

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<v Speaker 3>listen and hear your stories, So maybe we should put

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<v Speaker 3>a little call out like, how are you celebrating NADOC work,

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<v Speaker 3>How are you fire burning? What are you extinguishing? What

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<v Speaker 3>are you keeping fuel? Two as well, Yeah, let us know.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll put a question box or something out, maybe in

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<v Speaker 3>the show notes or even on our stories.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you love us, leave us a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Rating, let us know, and if you want us to

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<v Speaker 3>cover anything, let us know on the plot as well,

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<v Speaker 3>on our or on our socials.

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks handling that booked up Blurton. Mine is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>Mattie Mills and we love you.

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<v Speaker 4>Mob.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a deadly, deadly, deadly Nadock week. Bye bye,