Speaker 1: Welcome to First things first, I'm Matty Meals. My pronouns
Speaker 1: are he and him.
Speaker 2: I'm Brook Blatton. My pronouns as she and her.
Speaker 1: And before we get started, we'd like to acknowledge the
Speaker 1: custodians of the land on which were record and today
Speaker 1: for me that's the gaddigle people of the urination and
Speaker 1: for me it's.
Speaker 2: Surroundering people of the cool a nation.
Speaker 1: Let's let's get into it. Oh well, it's a Nadoc week.
Speaker 2: Yes, how black week of the month of the year,
Speaker 2: of the year. I feel real black, real, you know, always.
Speaker 1: Yeah, always, I'm a black phil every day and I
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like if I was, if I was a range of
Speaker 3: how toast I am, I would be burnt toast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be crispy burnt toast with that button
Speaker 1: night trying to scrape off the little bit of like.
Speaker 4: Extra charred, trying to savor that.
Speaker 2: Bread, stiff and stale as it is too.
Speaker 1: Oh well, this year the theme is keep the fire burning,
Speaker 1: don't burn the toast.
Speaker 4: Don't burn the toast. That's right, keep.
Speaker 2: The fire burning, yeah.
Speaker 4: But don't burn the toast. I love that.
Speaker 2: That's next week's next year, next week. That's next year's name.
Speaker 4: But that's the theme for Reconciliation Week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are definitely filling the vibes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about keep the fire burning. We are on
Speaker 3: fire today. We are having a ball of fun and
Speaker 3: so excited for this episode, for this week, for this
Speaker 3: year as always, But.
Speaker 2: Like NATOK is one of my favorite weeks. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: What, it just kind of always like people think that
Speaker 3: NATOK Week is only just for Black Fellows, but it's
Speaker 3: for everyone. But it's like it's an invitation all the time,
Speaker 3: you know, But it's like for blackfellows within the community.
Speaker 3: It's like I'm going to show how black I am.
Speaker 1: Show how proud we are to be Black fellows, show
Speaker 1: you know, the struggle and the challenges of our community,
Speaker 1: but also the success and the.
Speaker 4: Beauty and the black joy.
Speaker 1: And I love that there are so many activations of
Speaker 1: cross the country. There are the NADOC balls, there are
Speaker 1: you know, different channels doing specific broadcasts. There are events, there's.
Speaker 2: Community days, community days released.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of Black fellows release music in this time.
Speaker 1: It is it is just you know, a moment for
Speaker 1: us or to be really proud of who we are.
Speaker 1: And and look, you know at our community and see
Speaker 1: how much we've achieved and how much you know, there
Speaker 1: is still to go. And that's what the fire burning
Speaker 1: is all about. Keep the fire burning. It really comes
Speaker 1: off the back of you know, a really tough you
Speaker 1: for mob when it came to the referendum and how
Speaker 1: much that affected I feel, like, you know, so many
Speaker 1: of us, no matter whether you voted yes or no,
Speaker 1: it affected us as black fellows. And because it allowed
Speaker 1: the country to vote on our identity and our value,
Speaker 1: I suppose and unfortunately, you know, we didn't get a
Speaker 1: yes in that referendum. But that doesn't mean that the
Speaker 1: work stops. That doesn't mean that the investment into our
Speaker 1: people stops in terms of you know, government investment. But
Speaker 1: also it doesn't mean that the rest of Australia and
Speaker 1: the community out there aren't proud of us as franslations.
Speaker 2: We aren't proud of yes.
Speaker 1: So keep the fire burning is all about making sure
Speaker 1: that we are continuing to you know, share the beautiful
Speaker 1: parts of our community and also work on the challenges
Speaker 1: that we face as a community and the disadvantage that
Speaker 1: we face due to colonization in this country. So I
Speaker 1: like the theme. How has the theme sat with you?
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I mean I've always felt this as well, Like every
Speaker 3: time I do a speech or talk or i'm with
Speaker 3: kids and I think of passion, I think of culture.
Speaker 3: I always think like I have a fire in my
Speaker 3: belly that is like raring to go, and I never
Speaker 3: feel like it's ever ever and will ever go out.
Speaker 3: And I think this kind of this theme sort of
Speaker 3: reiterates that feeling but also shows I guess, the strength
Speaker 3: and the the passion.
Speaker 2: I always think of things in color.
Speaker 3: I'm wearing red today and I feel like that kind
Speaker 3: of for me is showing the passion and the strength
Speaker 3: and the fire that's my belly. Yeah, I love all
Speaker 3: of the themes. One year I posted the themes of
Speaker 3: Nadock from the earliest when they first started, you know
Speaker 3: how they would have themes or posters, And I think
Speaker 3: every year it's just been so applicable to how mob
Speaker 3: of feeling and the community voice. And I think that's
Speaker 3: so important that to hear that this theme kind of
Speaker 3: encompasses our voice. Even regardless of what the voice referendum
Speaker 3: told us or said to us, we don't care. We're
Speaker 3: still moving on We're still going. We're going to continue
Speaker 3: to show up. Keep the fire burning is like the
Speaker 3: best representation, but I also love the notion and spirituality
Speaker 3: it has to land as well. We know that fire
Speaker 3: is such a central place of our community. Sometimes for
Speaker 3: community gatherings, we smoke to release and get rid of cleanse. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So as long as that fire is, you know, like
Speaker 3: still burning, there's so much healing still happening as well
Speaker 3: in the process.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. I feel like you have encapsulated
Speaker 1: exactly what this theme is about. When I heard about
Speaker 1: this theme, I feel like for me, I asked myself
Speaker 1: the question, what is the fire for me?
Speaker 4: And the fire.
Speaker 1: Which lives with inside me? I feel like, isn't the
Speaker 1: gas that you're thinking of? You know, she loves she
Speaker 1: loves the fart jokes.
Speaker 4: I had to pop that in there.
Speaker 1: But I am talking about the pride that I feel.
Speaker 1: And I say this, you know, I've said this for
Speaker 1: a number of years and I've felt this, especially when
Speaker 1: I've had to explain to people what it feels like
Speaker 1: a black fellow. There is nothing more exciting, There is
Speaker 1: nothing more deep within my soul or feeling or emotion
Speaker 1: that gets me red up or gets me fired up,
Speaker 1: or gets me inspired. Then the idea that you know
Speaker 1: as a blackfellow, the pride that I feel inside me
Speaker 1: is the fuel to my fire, and it's the first
Speaker 1: and last thing I you know, constantly think about. It's like,
Speaker 1: how proud I am to be a Black Feller, How
Speaker 1: proud I am to be, you know, a member of
Speaker 1: the oldest living culture or the planet. How proud I
Speaker 1: am to see how far we've come When I think
Speaker 1: about my dad's life and the experiences that he had
Speaker 1: as a young man on the mission, and the challenges
Speaker 1: and the racism and the stereotypes that he faced. But
Speaker 1: then I am a vision of my dad in the future,
Speaker 1: and it feels like we've.
Speaker 4: Come a long way.
Speaker 1: So the fire is burning, the fire is strong, and
Speaker 1: I feel like when you think about while we do
Speaker 1: what we do, it's about that you know that fire
Speaker 1: in our belly to make a difference, for our people,
Speaker 1: to continue to make a path forward so that the
Speaker 1: future generations can be proud of who we are. And
Speaker 1: I think, and I always it always comes down to
Speaker 1: the why, and I know that we do it for
Speaker 1: our community.
Speaker 4: A lot of the stuff that.
Speaker 1: We push for or break down those barriers for, or
Speaker 1: are the first in that room for. It's because of
Speaker 1: our community, and this week highlights that at another scale.
Speaker 1: So I think it's really important for people outside of
Speaker 1: our community to get amongst it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, like I talked about that invitation, like it's
Speaker 3: NATOC week. You know. My earliest childhood memory of Nadock
Speaker 3: was when I was in primary school and everyone just
Speaker 3: thought Nadock was this really sort of I guess back
Speaker 3: in the day from and the community that grew up in,
Speaker 3: it always seemed like this very tokenistic kind of week
Speaker 3: where it would be like, you know, they'd have some
Speaker 3: mob come in kiok some kangaroo stew and damper and
Speaker 3: give it to all the kids and would all sit
Speaker 3: around and you know that there wasn't like much more
Speaker 3: into the.
Speaker 2: Why of it. It was just oh, we just do this.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't until later, I guess, in the in
Speaker 3: my education era and learning so much more about the
Speaker 3: history that I understood sort of the where this comes
Speaker 3: from and why we do it, and and I want
Speaker 3: my kids to know that earlier on. I want young
Speaker 3: people to know why we do nado earlier on as well.
Speaker 3: It's not just fucking kangaroos, doo and Damper, which which
Speaker 3: we love. It was such a great childhood memory and
Speaker 3: I used to love it, but it's so much more
Speaker 3: to what is NATOC and yeah, and it's such an
Speaker 3: offering or an invitation for people to also do that
Speaker 3: learning and understand it too. And I guess come to
Speaker 3: come to the party, like come to the come to
Speaker 3: the committee, come to the cult.
Speaker 1: You know. NATOK has been going on for a long
Speaker 1: time now, and obviously it started off as a protest
Speaker 1: and a way for recognition of First Nations people, challenges,
Speaker 1: struggle and also a way for us to be heard.
Speaker 1: We go back to that voice. Now NATOK is a
Speaker 1: little bit different. It feels like more of a celebration,
Speaker 1: but there is definitely still that protest element to it,
Speaker 1: that fight element to it. It is a week for
Speaker 1: us to be able to have a national focus on
Speaker 1: our community and I love that the rest of Australia
Speaker 1: gets to see Black Fellows in a different light within
Speaker 1: this week. A lot of the time, our stereotypes have
Speaker 1: perpetuated throughout the media throughout the year. When it comes
Speaker 1: to NATOCK, it feels like there's a lot of lightheartedness,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of joy, there's a lot of positivity
Speaker 1: that is reflected from our community. So I love seeing that.
Speaker 1: I love seeing the balls that happen around the country,
Speaker 1: black fellows getting dressed up and you know, feeling themselves
Speaker 1: and looking amazing and having you know, a celebration of
Speaker 1: who we are. But I also love the conversations.
Speaker 3: That sharing, the community events that it's just so beautiful.
Speaker 2: I love it too.
Speaker 3: Like I remember Miss Nadock like a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: which is a huge like pageant type leadership thing for women,
Speaker 3: and I just I love that time of NADOK because
Speaker 3: it's like there's this crowning and it's beautiful and it
Speaker 3: shows like all of our young women leaders that are
Speaker 3: coming through, Like it's I don't know, I get really
Speaker 3: sentimental around this time of year.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that NADOC, you know, I think that it
Speaker 1: will continue to grow, and I think that there is
Speaker 1: a wider community out there that accept you know, that
Speaker 1: they're offering of NADOC. Now. I think, you know, every
Speaker 1: year it becomes bigger, more people get involved from the
Speaker 1: wider community, and it's really about learning, educating, yourself and understanding,
Speaker 1: you know, having a more understanding but also more respect
Speaker 1: for First Nations culture across that country. And I think
Speaker 1: that and that underpins the value that we hold within
Speaker 1: our nation and the investment from you know, government as well.
Speaker 1: So even though we didn't get the voice, we still
Speaker 1: have these moments throughout the year where where you can
Speaker 1: show your interest or your respect for our community. But
Speaker 1: that should be on and support, but that should be
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis.
Speaker 3: But should But if it's you know, this is the
Speaker 3: week that you you take that initiative and that's the
Speaker 3: week that you like, you know, you invest and you
Speaker 3: are taking that invitation or you know, that's that's great, cool, welcome,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 1: But also if you you know, use this week as
Speaker 1: a tokenistic way to show you your your performative performative allyship,
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's we'd rather have you step
Speaker 1: aside and not be involved. You know, especially companies who
Speaker 1: are doing one off activations throughout the year in this
Speaker 1: week where they you know, show their support but then
Speaker 1: don't have any fundamental you know, support within their their
Speaker 1: organization for First communities outside of that one panel that
Speaker 1: they're going to host in NADOC week. I think that
Speaker 1: that's performative allyship, and that stuff can be actually quite detrimental.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we can read through it. I
Speaker 2: think people can see for what it is.
Speaker 3: I do know that there are also some great collaborations
Speaker 3: and great things that come out of Nateoff that aren't
Speaker 3: tokenistic and aren't performative.
Speaker 2: But if you are.
Speaker 3: Doing that like you're not really you're doing yourself a
Speaker 3: disservice and we can read through it.
Speaker 2: People can see that, and it's not credible, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think you know, take a little bit
Speaker 3: of a tip out of our book, if you may,
Speaker 3: and just understand that, Yeah, like performative allyship doesn't serve
Speaker 3: you as a business organization or brand.
Speaker 2: Or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: It's only just saying like we just don't care.
Speaker 1: And that also reflects weak morals exactly, and that stuff
Speaker 1: doesn't look good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, practice what you preach, and I think that's what
Speaker 3: we sort of take into account and we think accountability
Speaker 3: is just the most important thing to have. When you
Speaker 3: say you're going to do something, do it and do
Speaker 3: it genuinely with reason and tention. And also like not
Speaker 3: just from a gaining perspective, like you don't gain anything,
Speaker 3: if anything, you lose because you lose our respect as
Speaker 3: First Nations people. If this is the week that you
Speaker 3: decide that you're going to do something like that, it
Speaker 3: doesn't serve anyone.
Speaker 1: And do you know what, if it's the first time
Speaker 1: you're doing something like that, make that clear. Make it no,
Speaker 1: don't try and hide behind the fact that you've never
Speaker 1: done anything in your life or you know the community
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you're putting on this event.
Speaker 1: Make that known, say this is the first time we're
Speaker 1: doing this. We have further investment into having these conversations.
Speaker 1: We are going to be implementing a rap plan. We
Speaker 1: are going to be trying to get a deeper understanding
Speaker 1: of the community throughout the you know, throughout our journey
Speaker 1: from this point on. But if you haven't done it
Speaker 1: before and you feel like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 1: start in eight or Q week, don't have that theor
Speaker 1: either you know, like you can start conversation, be open
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have had these conversations, and there's been many
Speaker 3: of times where I've been asked to speak at events
Speaker 3: and etcetera. And I've turned it down, and especially during
Speaker 3: this week, I'm like, I don't hear from you for months, years,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you come out of the
Speaker 3: wood work.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, like what are you doing?
Speaker 3: And it's about asking the question, having the conversation, and
Speaker 3: having the courage to say, Okay, well, then what's what's
Speaker 3: happening moving forward? Like you said exactly, rap plan, you know,
Speaker 3: more voices on the board, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So I've decided to do my first of a jewelry
Speaker 2: collaboration and love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never done one before and this was really
Speaker 3: special to me because it has been in the works
Speaker 3: for a while, like Beyond Beyond Natoc Week and we
Speaker 3: I specifically decided to choose NATOC Week because I think
Speaker 3: that's a way of celebrating for me. But also the
Speaker 3: thing that I love is wearing something that you feel
Speaker 3: really proud of, and that's something for me. NADOC Week
Speaker 3: I do a lot, especially wearing like my Aboriginal flag
Speaker 3: T shirt or wearing something that's like I'm black, I'm proud,
Speaker 3: and so wearing something like jewelry every day, I thought,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna do it. I'm not you know,
Speaker 3: I would choose to do this any other time, but
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I feel really like
Speaker 3: good about this year, and I feel like this is
Speaker 3: a perfect time to release something that I've worked so
Speaker 3: hard on and want to show and the you know,
Speaker 3: there's a beautiful meaning. Ten percent of the proceeds go
Speaker 3: to a First Nation's Literacy Foundation, which I'm really proud
Speaker 3: of and I have supported along the journey as well.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't seem anything out of ordinary for me,
Speaker 3: but I think a lot of people would be cautious,
Speaker 3: especially during this time, being like, oh are they going
Speaker 3: to do it more? And I have advocated so Francisco
Speaker 3: Jewelry are releasing this necklace.
Speaker 2: It's coming out Nate Dog Week.
Speaker 3: My quote is standing your Truth, and I think that's
Speaker 3: really perfect towards the theme of Keep the Fire Burning
Speaker 3: is allowing truth telling and trying to well just own
Speaker 3: and own yourself, own who you are, own your voice,
Speaker 3: find your voice.
Speaker 2: And I think it's just really powerful quote.
Speaker 3: For me that I've lived my life through, and I
Speaker 3: guess my journey through TV, journey through Bachelorette is just
Speaker 3: being truthful and being and anyone can. Let you know,
Speaker 3: it's not just for blackfellows, like it's it's for anyone.
Speaker 3: And I think that's the perfect, you know thing for
Speaker 3: me and releasing this is that I want people to
Speaker 3: be coming to the party like I want people to
Speaker 3: and I'm saying to you, like, yeah, stand in your truth,
Speaker 3: like regardless of what situation or where you come from.
Speaker 3: This is a great opportunity to not just buy a
Speaker 3: necklace per se, but also like lives by something that
Speaker 3: accountability or like yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's also putting your money where your mouth is
Speaker 1: to supporting, you know, the community through that way of
Speaker 1: giving being able to buy something yeah, but you love.
Speaker 1: But it also has contributions to the community in a
Speaker 1: financial way, because financial ways are important. It might seem like,
Speaker 1: you know, people go on about finances, but the thing
Speaker 1: is it's really hard for black fellows to tap into
Speaker 1: enter generational wealth. So when it comes to finances, I'm
Speaker 1: all about paying the rent, paying it back, you know,
Speaker 1: the paying your way forward into the community. And I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask, you know, based on this theme keep
Speaker 1: the fire burning, what are some things this year that
Speaker 1: you're going to extinguish and what are some things, You're
Speaker 1: going to put some more fuel to the fire.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a great question, Mattie.
Speaker 3: And I feel like I've spoken about this previously where
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in a bit of a rebirth,
Speaker 3: Like over the couple of years, I've really focused on
Speaker 3: my healing and living in my soft girl era, and
Speaker 3: I guess just kind of pulling back the layers and
Speaker 3: unraveling and in a good way. And I guess like
Speaker 3: unpacking my trauma and my experiences is using them as
Speaker 3: fire to drive myself forward. And it has taken me,
Speaker 3: you know, five hundred steps back, but I honestly feel
Speaker 3: like this is going to be such a vital thing
Speaker 3: to my future and.
Speaker 2: It's only going to you know, troject me forward obviously.
Speaker 3: So I think for me, I'm learning to not and
Speaker 3: understand that people don't care as much as you think
Speaker 3: that they do, as much as I want people to
Speaker 3: care about the things that matter to me obviously, like
Speaker 3: nay Nook Week and First Nations issues and things like
Speaker 3: that when I walk into a room, people aren't looking
Speaker 3: at me and saying things that I think that they're saying,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and not having those that
Speaker 3: voice so For me, it's quietening the negative voice that
Speaker 3: I have in my head and how I feel about myself.
Speaker 3: So that's something that I'm not extinguishing completely, just you know,
Speaker 3: quietening a little bit more. And the thing that's giving
Speaker 3: me fire is my creativeness is like putting myself in
Speaker 3: a more creative industry and telling stories and finding my
Speaker 3: voice and that's going to only ever make me stronger
Speaker 3: and probably you know, using my voice as an instrument
Speaker 3: is such a powerful thing.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about I'm.
Speaker 1: So excited for you to be going down this creative
Speaker 1: route because I know what it's like to wake up
Speaker 1: every day, and you know what it's like because you've
Speaker 1: carved your own future and your own career and your
Speaker 1: own dreams out for yourself. But to be able to
Speaker 1: wake up and be creative and to be able to
Speaker 1: I suppose you know, whenever I'm especially when i'm acting,
Speaker 1: Like for me, they're the best moments, Like they're really
Speaker 1: beautiful days where I'm able to explore not just the
Speaker 1: character but myself. So I'm so excited for you to
Speaker 1: go down this acting journey. And when you know, when
Speaker 1: you get a show or when you get a role
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the first one there in the
Speaker 1: front road, like I'll be supporting you one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I think the best thing about this is like, if
Speaker 3: I am good at it, great, I've.
Speaker 2: Actually explored that.
Speaker 3: If I'm not, I've also explored that, and I think
Speaker 3: there's no losing here for me in a situation like this,
Speaker 3: And I think that's the fire burning is.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you don't lose things, yes, And.
Speaker 3: I think that's what we need to tell our younger selves,
Speaker 3: is that exploration is the perfect like way to find
Speaker 3: what you love and what you what you don't love
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well this year for me, the fire burning theme
Speaker 1: and what I'm extinguishing and what I'm going to be
Speaker 1: putting more fuel to, I think more fuel to me
Speaker 1: leaning into my authenticity within all aspects of my career.
Speaker 1: For so long, I feel like I've tried to curate
Speaker 1: a version of myself that appeals to mainstream media. And
Speaker 1: I think that I've got to a point in my life.
Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine years old where the things that I
Speaker 1: used to find important just aren't important anymore. And instead
Speaker 1: of trying to curate a version of myself that I
Speaker 1: think other people will love. I need to be the
Speaker 1: version that when I look in the mirror, I like yes,
Speaker 1: and when I wake up, I'm happy to live the
Speaker 1: day with because I'm the person with myself one hundred
Speaker 1: percent of the time. So it's like, instead of thinking
Speaker 1: about what do these guys want, what does the media
Speaker 1: want from me? What will propel me forward and what
Speaker 1: will make me successful? Fuck that shit that's gone to decide?
Speaker 1: And what is my authentic voice? What do I want
Speaker 1: to say? What do I want to do? And how
Speaker 1: do I want to be in my house and outside?
Speaker 4: You know, So that's like my my, That's what I'm
Speaker 4: putting fuel to.
Speaker 1: What I'm extinguishing is the fact that, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to manipulate the world and control other people. And that
Speaker 1: sounds like quite extreme, but what I mean by that,
Speaker 1: But what I mean by that is allow people to
Speaker 1: be who they are, Allow people who don't want to
Speaker 1: work with you not to work with you. Allow organizations
Speaker 1: that are going to be whitewashed be whitewashed. I'm sick
Speaker 1: of trying to be the person who is like, but
Speaker 1: you guys don't have any black fellows, like you need
Speaker 1: representation you know, I'm going to be working with people
Speaker 1: who genuinely want to nurture that and not being forced
Speaker 1: to do it because as soon as because as soon
Speaker 1: as you're forced to, you're in that door, and you're
Speaker 1: forcing someone to make choice that they necessarily don't want
Speaker 1: to make, you're going to be in an unsafe environment exactly.
Speaker 3: And I think that this is such a powerful movement
Speaker 3: that's happening. It's like, yeah, remember when businesses and organizations
Speaker 3: used to do like oh, we're doing cultural competency or
Speaker 3: cultural training, et cetera. It's like, we don't want your
Speaker 3: cultural knowledge. We have cultural knowledge. What we need is
Speaker 3: cultural safety, and if you don't have that, that's your problem,
Speaker 3: because I'm not working with you. And I think that's
Speaker 3: the best way to look at moving forward. How first
Speaker 3: nations people will see things too, like.
Speaker 1: If you're creating our own tables exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a great quote by a woman and she says,
Speaker 3: if there's no seat at the table, bring your own
Speaker 3: fucking seat. And I love that saying, but I also
Speaker 3: think make your own table too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to be able to go down like this,
Speaker 1: like this, this lane in the future of creating what
Speaker 1: I want to see instead of appealing to someone for
Speaker 1: me to have an opportunity. You know, like creation is
Speaker 1: where are my heart, my fire sits. I'm creative. That's
Speaker 1: like my main passion, my main driver is like my
Speaker 1: creative side, so I can create what I want to see.
Speaker 1: I don't need to be out there, you know, begging people,
Speaker 1: begging the masses, or begging commercial networks to be like
Speaker 1: hey please, you know, like give me an opportunity. Fuck
Speaker 1: that shit, I'm going to create my own. But I
Speaker 1: think based on that, like that, that's the energy I'm
Speaker 1: going into NATOC week with as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I love that. That's a great end
Speaker 3: way to end. Well, Happy Natock weeky mob, And honestly,
Speaker 3: we all know natog Week is every week of the
Speaker 3: fifty two weeks of every day, exact day.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we hope you have a great Nadoc Week.
Speaker 3: We hope you have a nice, safe, Natock week, and
Speaker 3: we hope that you are keeping the fire absolutely burning.
Speaker 3: And thank you so much for listening to us and
Speaker 3: learning from us, and we learn from you, and we
Speaker 3: just we love sharing our story and we want to
Speaker 3: listen and hear your stories, So maybe we should put
Speaker 3: a little call out like, how are you celebrating NADOC work,
Speaker 3: How are you fire burning? What are you extinguishing? What
Speaker 3: are you keeping fuel? Two as well, Yeah, let us know.
Speaker 3: We'll put a question box or something out, maybe in
Speaker 3: the show notes or even on our stories.
Speaker 2: But if you love us, leave us a little.
Speaker 3: Rating, let us know, and if you want us to
Speaker 3: cover anything, let us know on the plot as well,
Speaker 3: on our or on our socials.
Speaker 1: Brooks handling that booked up Blurton. Mine is that it's
Speaker 1: Mattie Mills and we love you.
Speaker 4: Mob.
Speaker 1: Have a deadly, deadly, deadly Nadock week. Bye bye,