WEBVTT - It's Cleary's Time 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.000 Sorry, brother, Just sorry, brother, It's just. 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:06.920 Fiddling around there. I never knew that Frank Sinatra That's 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.120 life that David Lee Roth did a version of it. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:11.360 Who cares? 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:13.560 I care obviously brought it up. 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:17.440 That's live, that's and I know you've had a big night. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:19.160 Well I had to do it. Get up and charity do. 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:20.080 That's what it is. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:28.240 Charity Dodd do you You're on a freaking moon late 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.760 late night, early morning, late night, early morning. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:33.000 What were you doing up? 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:37.839 Where were you? Burly Billy Heads, belly Bears, the. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.720 Burly Bears an excellent club up there. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.800 Yes, and q r L also made of mind Damien Driscoll, 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.559 he runs the club up there there. 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.720 Last night it was good. Bennie Iken was there. First 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.640 time to see Bennie oakon for a long time. Madge 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:51.120 Megre on stage. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:52.960 Match McGuire, Well, well we're going to talk about some 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.720 When do we start? Now we started, Yeah, we've started. 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.320 The mics are on in Tapman, Yeah, in Chapman. We 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.040 have what you say is howards Marge, Michael maguire. A 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:03.880 lot of a lot of press at the moment, with 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:08.720 a lot of pressure from the from the Broncos. Reese 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.399 wallash boxing his mate, lots of different stuff. How was Madge? 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.640 It is okay? Now, he's pretty good. I mean, he's 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.200 been through it all before, you know. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:17.720 And at the end of the day, the broncos of 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.600 five and five, like, you know, it's it's a it's 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:24.800 a I think because they won that first round so 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.880 convincingly and just absolutely expectation went through the roof through 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:30.760 the roof and they've got a lot of stuff they 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.240 got to adjust, but they'll get there. I think the 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.119 thing that and I didn't go into a deep with Madge, 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.800 but what'd been disappointing is you know, and it happens 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:41.640 when you lose, people start to come out and say, 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:43.400 oh mate, some of the players are unhappy and all 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.280 the rest of it. So you know what, winning solves everything, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.000 winning does. It's winning solves everything. Once you get back 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.760 to winning ways that all the all that sort of 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.400 noise and the criticism and all that starts to die. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:56.560 Now. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.320 But he's been through before. He was pretty good match, yeah, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:01:59.760 pretty good. 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:04.080 Yeah, what what's did he seem like it was bothering 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.160 him or anything like, just because a lot of people 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:07.880 a lot of the time people go, oh, you know, 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.040 when players are criticized, people go, you got to remember, 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:11.440 who's a twenty two year old boy. A lot of 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.679 that stuff people forget sometimes coaches they might be a 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.679 bit older in experience, but doesn't mean they are oblivious 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.080 but to feelings, yes. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.000 I don't oblivious to feelings is the right term. But yes, 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:30.200 they're human, they are they are human. Mate, know, he's 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:30.960 pretty good. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:32.959 Actually, as I said before, he's been it through before. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.320 I've seen Madge Madge is not the sort of guy. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.359 Look when Madge Madge could win twenty games in a 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.079 row and when you speak to him like his head 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.120 is going to fall off anyway. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:43.840 Is that type of guy. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.960 He's an intense guy, you know, that's what he is 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:47.919 a coach, but made he's good. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.600 Like I'm not saying like they're not they're not going off. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.160 A clear or anything like that, but they're going through 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:55.560 a bad patch of form at the moment. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.800 They're trying to work things out. He'll get through it. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:57.920 Well. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.480 I think most clubs are going pretty sh inconsistent this year, 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.160 like it's the it's thee apart from Bulldogs really a 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.519 lot of Canberra probably, but well, a lot of clubs 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:08.600 are so inconsistent. 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.560 I mean the Bulldogs the other night, Friday night. Yeah, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.200 get flowers out of the Dolphins. That's right, you know 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:13.560 what I mean? 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.400 Like it's his Dolphins were good by the. 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.880 Way, Dolphins were good, but they've had an inconsistent year too. Azayakatawa, 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.680 you love him, mate, You need you need to stop 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.880 him settling. You love him so much. I'm actually I 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:25.120 love it. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.480 I love him as a player. I just think he's very, 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:28.040 very special. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:28.880 He's a good player. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.240 Twenty one years of age, something like that. And when 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.040 you talk about the best half backs in the game, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.200 the best, the elite halfbacks in the game, the very best, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.400 the Krem della crem, the cream of the crop. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:39.920 And the crop of the cream, which he's got to 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:40.320 be in that. 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.200 Something right, And we're going to unpack it. This is 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:44.480 going to we're going to unpack a lot of state 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.960 of origin. I hate that word unpacked. Say we're going 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:48.240 to go through We're going to go through a lot 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:49.880 of state of origin. Just because you don't like something 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.000 doesn't mean everyone else has to follow you, by the way. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:52.360 That's right. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:57.600 But Isaia Katawa, let's say Mitch and Nathan Cleary both 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.600 got long term injuries, game two whatever game. Do you 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:01.880 think he'd be ready for State of Oder? 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.680 Yes, yes, I do. I do. 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:09.240 He's just so composed. Every time I see him, he 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.600 just gets better. He's playmaking the other night. The first 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.920 half he controlled the game with his kicking in the 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.320 wet conditions. Second half he control the game with his 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.800 guidance and his clever ball playing. Just dominated. So yeah, 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.840 and it's funny, isn't it, because you think about when 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.320 you think about the state of origin, he's. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.039 Not a name that comes to mind. No, not really, 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.560 but yeah, he's eligible. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.880 He represents Tonga, but there are two nations, so he 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.760 can play State of origin football. And I reckon, I 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:38.800 reckon Laurie should bring him. You know they have the 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.760 extended squad. Bring him to the extended squad. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:41.120 Yeah. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.920 Yeah, I've got to apologize to people too. I am really, 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:46.320 I am really young. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.120 Overs catching up with old mates last. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.120 Night, and hey, you know what, like we said about 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.560 coaches a humans, you're a human too. Like I know 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.680 you're you're a media icon and as your legend, but 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.240 is that fair thing to say. That's a fair thing 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.560 to say, But that doesn't mean you're not human. Either 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.760 you're allowed to have down days, right. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.760 Honest, it's down day. I'm just saying that my energy 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.680 levels a little low and I'm a little cloudy. I've 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.719 got these glasses on at the moment just to sort 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.000 of shield my eyes a little bit. 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:20.240 Yeah. Another shout out Brandon Smith. Yeah, cheesel has he's 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.360 been at the Rabbit Hoz. I saw Latrol Mitchell during 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.599 the week and asked him how Cheese is going. He said, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.800 he's fitting in like a glove, very easy, very likely 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.760 to get along with. Says he's really happy at the moment. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.240 You spoke to Cheese as well. During the week. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.919 I text Cheese and I said, great to see in 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:41.159 the Cardinal of Myrtle and he that's the colors of 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:48.080 Sesiny cardinal cardinal and Myrtle. Oh right, your brother played 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.479 for the Mighty Bunnies and you don't even know their 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:51.720 colors cardinals. 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.880 So you're going red and green, don't you? Green? It's 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.160 so what cardinal of Myrtle? 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.520 Is that the old school way of saying red and green? 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.880 Yeah, it's a slightly it's not a pure red. It's 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:03.800 a different, isn't it. Jack? That's right? Yeah? JACKO help 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:04.360 us out. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.320 Nice work there, Cooper. It's a softer red and a 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.360 softer green, mate, Yes, you know there it is, Yeah, 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:18.120 with lighter undertones. I didn't want people to turn off, right, Well, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.080 that's that's hand. You can tell that Wayne Bennet's going 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:20.440 to get the best. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.800 Well, I text Jesus and make Gracie and the Cardinal 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.040 Myrtle and he can said, mate, I love Wayne as 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.600 we just come back with That's all he said. And 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.839 that's people. There's some coaches they just get the best 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.760 out of players. Craig Bellamy, Wayne Bennett mate, like Brent, 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.280 he's the type of guy that will thrive under those 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:39.320 those those type of coaches. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.799 Yeah, and Lucky Galvin that's another big news at the moment, 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.480 saying that he might leave potentially immediately, right. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.159 It was going to be before June thirty. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.039 Yeah, so is do you think that's a if I'm 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.320 the Bulldogs, I feel like it's a weird bye. Why 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.279 I look at how good they're going this year, Toby 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.800 Sexton and and I think they are a great pairing. 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.760 They're both young. Like you leave those two there together 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:07.560 for a five year period, They're only going to get 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.360 better now they're going to get Lachlan Galvin, who, in 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.960 my opinion, is just a younger He is a younger 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.000 version of Matt Burton with how he plays. I think 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.920 they're different. Well, I think their strength of the exact same. 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.880 They're running totally different. What do you think football? 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.640 It's a tricky one for a tricky one for Gus 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.400 and Cameron Sorelda with the Dogs because it's really important. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.360 You've got to shore up at the future of your club, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.040 you know, and your future roster. But at the same 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.720 time they're flying, you know, they're they're at the moment, 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.720 and you don't want who You don't basically want to 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:42.520 plan to the future and hurt the present. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.040 But this is it's what you've got to do. 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:50.800 And Galvin is looks to me as though, I feel 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.080 good accounts him as like a once in a generation 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.600 type player that's sort of talent. And so I know 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.800 it's hard and might disrupt things a little bit, But 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.880 as far as the futures concern you, if you've got there, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.320 if you've if you have the chance to sign Lockie, 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.560 you've just got to sign him. Where they play him, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:12.600 I think they will play him. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:13.680 We'll put it this way. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.880 I think the next eighteen months for Lockie that he 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:17.680 will be in the halves, he'll be. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.960 A six coups. But long term I see him as 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:20.440 the thirteen. 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.080 But the question I wanted to ask you, because you 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.240 said you think they're different players, they both play as 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.000 a five eight, as a running five eight. How do 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.000 you think that dynamic good work down Matt Burton Ulockey 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:30.840 govern as halves. 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:32.200 They wouldn't play together. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.160 I don't think they played. 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:38.480 Together in the halves similar. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.959 No, because neither of them are pure seven that it would. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.280 I still maintain you do need someone who's a pure 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.200 seven or more of a natural seven than those two blokes. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.199 Burton for me is. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:59.280 He's a six slash three slash one, possibly possibly thirteen, 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.880 but I see him in an outside back slash six. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.360 I see Locky Galvin as a six slash thirteen. He's 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.240 a play through the line type player. He's going to 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.559 be when he when he pops and starts to fill out, 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:15.320 and he's going to be robust shortball playing handful. But 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.559 I don't neither of them are sevens, and this is 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:18.640 going to be This is why it's going to be 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.960 interesting if they do Land Galvin. It seem very interesting 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:26.280 what they do with Sexton because they haven't signed Toby yet, 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.680 because and I'm looking at and thinking, okay, how can 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.360 you fit them all in? But I think to bring 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.920 the Locke into that squad and get rid of I 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.880 think get rid of Tab Sexton would be a mistake. 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.640 I still think you need that pure seven. I don't 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.400 see Maddy Burton and I don't see Lockey Galvin. We're 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:46.520 in a seven comfortably. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.240 Yeah, No, I agree. A lot of the reports have 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.439 been Burton playing one this week that has come out 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.480 saying that Burton to one and Galvin and Sexton is 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.960 the combination, which I mean could potentially work. I think 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.760 kind of Tracey's content, he fits into them mold very well. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.360 So this is what we're talking about when you bring 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.760 a bring a player in the level, just that subtle 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.520 disruption that happens like suddenly, like Toby Sexton. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:12.880 I've been looking at Toby in the last six weeks ago, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.080 what's going through his head? Everyone's still to. 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.200 Be a Galvin going there and he not being re 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.040 signed and being on the outer, And I think what's 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.520 going through Toby's head? And he's been able to compartmentalized 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:23.760 and actually do really good. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.439 But yeah, it's interesting. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.840 But I mean I think they've become the favorites to 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.040 sign Galvin. I mean it's always been Paramatter, Paramatter or 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.840 the Dogs. Conspiracy went around last conspiracy theory last week 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.760 that the Roosters were in for Galvin. But that would 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.880 that would be an all time out of left field, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.480 even by the Roosters standards to do that. I think 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.360 it's either going to be Paramoun or the Bulldogs. I 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:48.280 think you've got the Bulldogs. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.160 Okay. And the last sort of story that's floating around. 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.839 Trent Robinson went whack on the Newcastle Knights last week 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.080 about the Dom Young situation. What are you hearing about 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.640 Dom Young? Do you think you'll go this year? 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.760 He'll be there in two weeks two weeks Castle. I 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.360 think he. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.160 The Knights. The Rooster's played the Knights in a couple 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:14.160 of weeks time. My understanding is Dom will be a 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.000 Rooster when that game's taple. He might not be on 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.360 the field. It might have been in the first grade side, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.160 but he will be a Rooster up until full time. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.840 At full time, the thing that I've heard is that 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.000 he will be the Knights the week after that, so 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.360 it's Roosters versus Knights. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:30.600 Take it as given. The next day he'll be the Knights. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.400 It's been a weird, weird relationship. I think Don played 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.440 very well last year. Obviously for whatever reason, you know, 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.600 he was dropped this year. They didn't think he was 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.920 playing that well. Do you think it'll be a goodbye 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.080 for the Knights going back then. 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.440 Phil Burbon, you think it'd be a good r Yeah, goodbye, 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:47.240 very very good. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.599 Yeah, it works, it works well. He gives them a 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.120 lot of punch coming out of hit. Him and Shill 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:56.679 has been been He's good player, Shiller. But that one 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:01.079 two combination of Greg marzou and and Dom Young coming 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.400 out of trouble, that one two punch is very very 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.360 good and you know, in some sort of finish it 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.839 but in his big personality up there like it was 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:09.200 a big loss for the club, Like. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:10.520 My I reckon. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.960 The best image I've seen of the Newcastle Knights in 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.680 the last twenty years is that Canberra game. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:17.760 It's a final game. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.960 When he's running down that right hand touch line, crowd 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:22.640 we're just going man, that was it was just some 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.720 great shots. Yeah, yeah, it's there's some cult heroes like 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.640 he reminds you of like a like a Wendell Sailor 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.440 for the Broncos, Adam McDougal for Newcastle, that real fan favorite. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.800 People get around him. Ye, So good to see Dom young. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:36.480 If he goes back there, and he'll be back there, 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.040 it'll be good to welcome back to the bosom of 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:40.240 the Novocastrian bosom. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.040 Yes, Novocastrians. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.080 I ran into I was going through the airport and 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:49.599 the Swans were there and ran into Isaac Heney, old Navacastrian, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:51.520 fellow Nevocastrian. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:52.520 How was he? 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:56.120 He was good before I met I met Lucky at 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:02.520 a Melbourne carp Isaac, you're a now. I met Isaac 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:06.080 a couple of years ago at the at the Melbourne Cup. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:07.320 Good to see him today. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.120 It's good mate, like good looking for twenty nine. He's 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.240 played a long time. He's twenty nine because he was 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.560 the Arabay League player coming through. He's from black Hill. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:21.760 Black Hill is it's it's probably fifteen minutes from from Newcastle. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.520 It's near s it's sort of in between near Maitland 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.800 and Rutherford and Hexham around that area. So he's a 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.200 black Hill boy. Parents still still live up that way. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.040 So he's a good player, Jesus, good player, good looking too, good, 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.400 good strapping young lad. He's a good looking chap and 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.160 we know he loves the podcast. Shout out, share, Isaac. 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.080 Lucky, whatever you want to call him. All right, State 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.760 of Origin before we go through the teams, Matthew, you 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.680 played three Start of Origin games? 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:46.000 Four? 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:47.600 Do you play four? How many you win? 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:49.720 Ah? I forget none? 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.160 No no, no, yeah, that's all right. You and Craig 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.400 Bellamy got a very similar wind the dry Yeah. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:55.000 Yeah. 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.160 What about your first Origin experience? What was that like? 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:58.679 What a lot of the boys who are in there 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.720 now a lot of debutantes who are going to be playing, 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.880 what's it experience like as a first Origin cooper? 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.240 I reckon when you're playing Origin, form is really important, 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.680 but also not just form, but I reckon the type 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.559 of game you play leading into that origin. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:14.240 Game is really important. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.360 And what I mean by that is until you played 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.840 the State of Origin, you've never experienced like pacing intensity 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.440 like it to get there, like it's man, it's it's 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:24.280 just full on coop. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.040 And so what happened to me. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:30.080 My five there was the Aril Super League split right, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.240 and they were telling me that if the Super League players. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.400 Weren't going to be selected to the injury and I 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:39.880 were going to do the halves. About about six weeks out. 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:44.480 From Origin, I did mynee, did a PCL and a 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.240 medial and was out for like five six weeks. And 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:51.360 my game that I came back, I came back against 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:55.480 the Warriors the week before the Origin, and I was rusty. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:00.560 But basically I never realized how rust I was because 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.000 we beat them by fifty points. We put the cluess 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:04.600 through the Warriors. It was one of the best wins 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.720 to that point in the club's history. We just rolled 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:11.480 through them, and you know, and when you're swimming, you 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.720 know along in the in the slip stream, and it's 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.400 like things are just working out for you, and you 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.840 actually don't realize a lot like that. Easy wins probably 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.720 covered up for me how rusty I was and how 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:23.320 much I. 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:24.880 Needed a little bit more of a hit out. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.880 Anyway, so we get there and we sit down, we 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.240 go it was myself and Andrew. We're a mum and 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.520 dad's house, and we had no idea we're going to 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.880 be picked or not. All they said that was there 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.640 was going to be a press conference and it led 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.680 the six o'clock news. Channel nine News started the six 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.440 o'clock news. But okay, let's go straight to ROL headquarters 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.400 for the route. They're going to announce the state of 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:51.200 origin side. Now, we were told that if the Super 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.760 League players were going to be named, then Ricky and 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.120 Laurie were going to be the halves. If they weren't 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:57.960 going to be named, then Andrew and I are going 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.160 to be the halves. Now, as they're about to read 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.200 out the first name. If they were going to read 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.120 out Brett Mullins at fullback, it meant all the Super 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:06.760 League players were going to be in. If they read 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.920 out Tim Brasher, it meant it was no Super League 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:10.720 RL players. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:11.440 Right. 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.000 So we're sitting in front of the in front of 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.640 the box, can Arthur's and John Quayle go through the 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.640 ringing roll blah blah blah blah blah, and we come 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.400 on just fucking say the side played the side yeah 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.000 about five minutes ago. Okay, now the announcement of the side, 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.400 and Ken Arthsen goes, okay, new, So while state of 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:31.560 origin side number one, you ain't gone wait wait wait, 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.600 Tim Brasher, which so. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.440 They didn't ring your prior, they didn't tea you up. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.520 No, Wow, that's bizarre right now. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:40.880 I think what it was, Coop. They didn't want to 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.080 cook because the Super League war. They didn't want to 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.320 let it to get out. I think they weren't going 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.960 to select. So it was a complete surprise. Yeah, and 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.960 then Gus rang and I spoke to Gus. We went 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.880 down into the camp and that first camp and. 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:54.560 I tear Coop. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.600 You talk about not regrets, but you know, you learn 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.680 your lesson that that week. It was a ten day 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.320 build up into the game, and every single day they 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.760 had me and Joey doing media because you brothers, the 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.120 Blues Marketers and all that stuff. We had to come 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.200 out to Newcastle and shoot an ad for Reom hot 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.000 Water or I had. By the time the game come around, 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:17.320 I was exhausted. I felt like, yeah, I was just I. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.800 Was spent And they do a good job. Now obviously 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.320 I was in there a lot last week Monday and Tuesday. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.199 It's heavy media for the boys, like they're doing so 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.320 much Channel nine Fox or like you know, your Ko's sport, 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.680 like a lot of different brands and stuff, and then 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.920 kind of come come training time Wednesday, most of the 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:37.680 media is all done, so they kind of protect them 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.760 from it. You have a week of unlike of all prep, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.520 which is good, but I imagine back in those days they 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.040 would have just been every day there would have been 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:44.960