WEBVTT - Upset over Abbey Holmes Consensual Platonic Kiss? Grow Up!

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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday. I haven't used to see your next Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>very often, and I said I would, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had any feedback about anyway, Here's wonderful, so we've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stopped using it. What I thought you would all

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<v Speaker 1>find that really funny, like as funny as Rach and

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<v Speaker 1>I found it, Like we had little cacs about it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we live and we learn. We were all with the punches,

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<v Speaker 1>as they say, where does that saying come from? Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tell you one day maybe I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe we will, maybe we won't. But it

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<v Speaker 1>is Tuesday. You might be listening to this on another day.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know. But what are we talking about this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Abbi Holmes, ex player of a sport. She was also

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<v Speaker 1>on Fiber, which is how I know HER's Phenale survivor

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<v Speaker 1>twice and she's beautiful and she's kind and funny and

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<v Speaker 1>she also uttered the best line in all reality TV. Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a guy in the other tribe who was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those beat their chest and you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>chest up against another guy and like yelled at people

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<v Speaker 1>when he won. Yeah, that's how you do it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the way you play. You know that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Matt. His name is probably still Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had bleached blonde hair, and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was like a pretend MMA fighter or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's what he wanted to be in life. And

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<v Speaker 1>they had been doing a challenge between the two tribes,

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<v Speaker 1>his tribe one, and he did that like the yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like going around like strutting, even his

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<v Speaker 1>own team who were all hugging each other, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like going around the outside like two trailer park girls,

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<v Speaker 1>going yeah, tell you, and like he's throwing shit at

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<v Speaker 1>the other team, like words, not actual feces, and Abbi goes,

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<v Speaker 1>he is an actual idiot. And it was probably the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing that I've ever seen, because I still use

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<v Speaker 1>it to this day, like, oh my god, he's an

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<v Speaker 1>actual idiot. And once that guy saw it back on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually had a really good sense of humor and

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<v Speaker 1>he took it really well. He changed his bio to Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an actual idiot last name, Like, I mean, kudos

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<v Speaker 1>to that guy because most dudes would not react well

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<v Speaker 1>to that, and he did, and I really like that

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<v Speaker 1>that he did that. He had a good sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 1>About it and that's all you got to do for me. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Abby came under fire this week apparently for kissing someone

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<v Speaker 1>after the interview, like you know, you do the by

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the field interviews, and the player gave

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<v Speaker 1>her a kiss. He gave her a kiss on the

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<v Speaker 1>sheet like it was very reciprocal. I'm assuming it was

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, the women's soccer thing where that guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the Spanish coach gave a woman

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<v Speaker 1>a kiss and on the mouth and she didn't want it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he doubled down and everyone hated it. Everyone hated it.

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<v Speaker 1>He doubled down. People said to get over it. She

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<v Speaker 1>then came out and said, I didn't want it. It wasn't consensual.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not cool. But he eventually resigned or got kicked

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say got kicked and said he was resigning. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you know what it's like. I'm assuming it's

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<v Speaker 1>from that, Like it's not okay for him to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it is okay for her to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>like what. And Abby has come out and said it

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<v Speaker 1>really upset her that people had, you know, blown it

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<v Speaker 1>all out of proportion, and that she's known that player

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<v Speaker 1>for a really long time. They're good friends. So the

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<v Speaker 1>question posed is is it okay in a professional setting

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<v Speaker 1>to give someone a kiss at all? You know what's that?

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<v Speaker 1>And I've got to say, this is just my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's consensual, anything goes like, why is a handshake

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<v Speaker 1>any different if it's consensual. Some people don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>be touched, so handshake is not good for some people.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it's consensual and you know that person already,

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<v Speaker 1>there's completely fine. Whatever you do, like what a fist

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<v Speaker 1>bumping some people like to do, like other people like

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<v Speaker 1>to high five. I've definitely seen many people be uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with a kiss, and we saw it during that postgame

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<v Speaker 1>with that coach. We've seen it. If it's not wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. Don't say that's what I do. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with that Abby. If it wasn't okay with

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<v Speaker 1>that player, she would have had a completely different answer

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<v Speaker 1>to that reaction. But they are very good friends and

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<v Speaker 1>they've clearly done that many many times, So let that go.

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<v Speaker 1>I think now we're just we're clutching at straws, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really important that we don't do that shit because

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<v Speaker 1>there's really imperative things we need to focus on when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to consent and rules of touching another human,

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<v Speaker 1>and we need to take that seriously. This neither of

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<v Speaker 1>the people involved to upset, So what are you upset about?

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<v Speaker 1>You were just being contrarian. You were whoever brought this

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<v Speaker 1>up and said, oh, this is not okay to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just looking for something to winge about, because no

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<v Speaker 1>one was saying, oh, I didn't like that. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>really important that the people involved are the ones who

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<v Speaker 1>lead the charge on saying I wasn't happy that she

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, you can see how uncomfortable it's making

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, which is what happens so often when

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<v Speaker 1>we see a man kissing a woman you can see

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<v Speaker 1>her cringe, or a man putting his hand around a

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<v Speaker 1>woman or touching or you know, you can see the

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<v Speaker 1>recoiling when you see that, and you can call it

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<v Speaker 1>out for what it is. Great. But if you see

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<v Speaker 1>two consenting adults being affectionate with each other in a

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<v Speaker 1>professional setting that isn't sexual in any way, just grow up.

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<v Speaker 1>I got rage comes up with things for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where she comes with these great useful facts. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's finding the good stuff, the origin stuff. She's

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<v Speaker 1>found a little gold mine of a website. I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>because she goes really good ones. Now spill the beans.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do spill the beans. Okay, it's from ancient Greece

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<v Speaker 1>and people used to vote with beans, so it would

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<v Speaker 1>be anonymous. White beans made a positive vote and black

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<v Speaker 1>beans made a negative vote. You know. Funnily, A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago, my friends and I we had a

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<v Speaker 1>chicken sandwich competition where we all had to make the

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<v Speaker 1>best version of our own chicken sandwich, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>all had to bring our chicken sandwiches in tupperware containers

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<v Speaker 1>to the park, which was the one above the beach

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<v Speaker 1>the Redcliff Beach in Sydney for Clue or Double Bay

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<v Speaker 1>wherever it is, and we had this picnic and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>then put their chicken sandwiches down and everyone got given beans.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they were pebbles, and what we did is we

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<v Speaker 1>all ate and you put down your pebble on the

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<v Speaker 1>best sandwich that you thought out of all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>It was rigged because there was a heap of kids

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<v Speaker 1>that put all of their pebbles down on their dads,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was totally rigged, but it was bloody great.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun to do, and I learned to make

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing chicken sandwich that day from Maria who told

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<v Speaker 1>me it's all about steaming the bread. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>like what, And she knows how to make a damn

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<v Speaker 1>good chicken sandwich. So just a shout out to her

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<v Speaker 1>back to spill the beans anyway, so someone every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then the jar of beans. Every now and then

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<v Speaker 1>before the winners or results were announced, someone might like

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<v Speaker 1>knock the jar over, and if you did, then the

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<v Speaker 1>results were displayed early. Right, so they were called spilling

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<v Speaker 1>the beans. You were spilling the beans? Dunnaha, yay, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you think about that? Let me know, spill the beans.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, spill the beans and let me know. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me know your results early. All right, Well, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a lovely, lovely week. This week we've got the wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>Kirby Bentley talking of Survivor. She was on the last season.

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<v Speaker 1>You will not want to miss this because we do

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Survivor, but more importantly we talk about indigenous affairs,

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<v Speaker 1>in particularly women, Indigenous women and violence against them. So

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<v Speaker 1>please tune in, Please let me know what you think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're really really gonna love it. It's a bloody

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<v Speaker 1>great episode. It was a great chat and my producer

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<v Speaker 1>Nellie fell off the chair. I get it. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like to be a really happily heterosexual esh

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<v Speaker 1>woman in a great relationship who meets a woman that

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<v Speaker 1>goes well. Now, I see how some people can turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Some women can turn because Kirby is a sexy, sexy woman.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a sexy human. Really, she's just this incredible energy

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<v Speaker 1>of m and the smile, best smile. You'll hear it

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<v Speaker 1>through the microphone. I promise you you will have a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful week. I'll be your ears on Thursday. By