1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. I haven't used to see your next Tuesday 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: very often, and I said I would, and I haven't 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: had any feedback about anyway, Here's wonderful, so we've kind 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: of stopped using it. What I thought you would all 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: find that really funny, like as funny as Rach and 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: I found it, Like we had little cacs about it. Anyway, 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: we live and we learn. We were all with the punches, 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: as they say, where does that saying come from? Who knows. 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: We'll tell you one day maybe I don't know. I 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe we will, maybe we won't. But it 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: is Tuesday. You might be listening to this on another day. 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: I do know. But what are we talking about this week? 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: Abbi Holmes, ex player of a sport. She was also 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: on Fiber, which is how I know HER's Phenale survivor 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: twice and she's beautiful and she's kind and funny and 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: she also uttered the best line in all reality TV. Ever. 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: There was a guy in the other tribe who was 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: one of those beat their chest and you know, like 19 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: chest up against another guy and like yelled at people 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: when he won. Yeah, that's how you do it. That's 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: the way you play. You know that kind of thing. 22 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: His name was Matt. His name is probably still Matt, 23 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: and he had bleached blonde hair, and I think he 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: was like a pretend MMA fighter or something like that, 25 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: like that's what he wanted to be in life. And 26 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: they had been doing a challenge between the two tribes, 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: his tribe one, and he did that like the yeah, 28 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: and he was like going around like strutting, even his 29 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: own team who were all hugging each other, and he's 30 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 1: like going around the outside like two trailer park girls, 31 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: going yeah, tell you, and like he's throwing shit at 32 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: the other team, like words, not actual feces, and Abbi goes, 33 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: he is an actual idiot. And it was probably the 34 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: best thing that I've ever seen, because I still use 35 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: it to this day, like, oh my god, he's an 36 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: actual idiot. And once that guy saw it back on TV, 37 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: he actually had a really good sense of humor and 38 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: he took it really well. He changed his bio to Matt, 39 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm an actual idiot last name, Like, I mean, kudos 40 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: to that guy because most dudes would not react well 41 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: to that, and he did, and I really like that 42 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: that he did that. He had a good sense of humor. 43 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: About it and that's all you got to do for me. Anyway. 44 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: Abby came under fire this week apparently for kissing someone 45 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: after the interview, like you know, you do the by 46 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: the side of the field interviews, and the player gave 47 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: her a kiss. He gave her a kiss on the 48 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: sheet like it was very reciprocal. I'm assuming it was 49 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: from you know, the women's soccer thing where that guy, 50 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: I think it was the Spanish coach gave a woman 51 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: a kiss and on the mouth and she didn't want it, 52 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: and he doubled down and everyone hated it. Everyone hated it. 53 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: He doubled down. People said to get over it. She 54 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: then came out and said, I didn't want it. It wasn't consensual. 55 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: It's not cool. But he eventually resigned or got kicked 56 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: I'd say got kicked and said he was resigning. I 57 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: don't know, you know what it's like. I'm assuming it's 58 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: from that, Like it's not okay for him to do it, 59 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: but it's it is okay for her to do it, 60 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: like what. And Abby has come out and said it 61 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: really upset her that people had, you know, blown it 62 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: all out of proportion, and that she's known that player 63 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: for a really long time. They're good friends. So the 64 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: question posed is is it okay in a professional setting 65 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: to give someone a kiss at all? You know what's that? 66 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: And I've got to say, this is just my opinion. 67 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: If it's consensual, anything goes like, why is a handshake 68 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: any different if it's consensual. Some people don't like to 69 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: be touched, so handshake is not good for some people. 70 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: So if it's consensual and you know that person already, 71 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: there's completely fine. Whatever you do, like what a fist 72 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: bumping some people like to do, like other people like 73 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: to high five. I've definitely seen many people be uncomfortable 74 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: with a kiss, and we saw it during that postgame 75 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: with that coach. We've seen it. If it's not wanted, 76 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: don't do it. Don't say that's what I do. And 77 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that Abby. If it wasn't okay with 78 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: that player, she would have had a completely different answer 79 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: to that reaction. But they are very good friends and 80 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: they've clearly done that many many times, So let that go. 81 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: I think now we're just we're clutching at straws, and 82 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: it's really important that we don't do that shit because 83 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: there's really imperative things we need to focus on when 84 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: it comes to consent and rules of touching another human, 85 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: and we need to take that seriously. This neither of 86 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: the people involved to upset, So what are you upset about? 87 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: You were just being contrarian. You were whoever brought this 88 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: up and said, oh, this is not okay to do. 89 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: You're just looking for something to winge about, because no 90 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: one was saying, oh, I didn't like that. And it's 91 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: really important that the people involved are the ones who 92 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: lead the charge on saying I wasn't happy that she 93 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: or you know, you can see how uncomfortable it's making 94 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: one of them, which is what happens so often when 95 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: we see a man kissing a woman you can see 96 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: her cringe, or a man putting his hand around a 97 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: woman or touching or you know, you can see the 98 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: recoiling when you see that, and you can call it 99 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: out for what it is. Great. But if you see 100 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: two consenting adults being affectionate with each other in a 101 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: professional setting that isn't sexual in any way, just grow up. 102 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: I got rage comes up with things for me. I 103 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: don't know where she comes with these great useful facts. Now, 104 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: like she's finding the good stuff, the origin stuff. She's 105 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: found a little gold mine of a website. I'm assuming 106 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 1: because she goes really good ones. Now spill the beans. 107 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: Let's do spill the beans. Okay, it's from ancient Greece 108 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: and people used to vote with beans, so it would 109 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: be anonymous. White beans made a positive vote and black 110 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: beans made a negative vote. You know. Funnily, A couple 111 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: of years ago, my friends and I we had a 112 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: chicken sandwich competition where we all had to make the 113 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: best version of our own chicken sandwich, and then we 114 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: all had to bring our chicken sandwiches in tupperware containers 115 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: to the park, which was the one above the beach 116 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the Redcliff Beach in Sydney for Clue or Double Bay 117 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: wherever it is, and we had this picnic and everyone 118 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: then put their chicken sandwiches down and everyone got given beans. 119 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Well they were pebbles, and what we did is we 120 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: all ate and you put down your pebble on the 121 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: best sandwich that you thought out of all of us. 122 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: It was rigged because there was a heap of kids 123 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: that put all of their pebbles down on their dads, 124 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: so it was totally rigged, but it was bloody great. 125 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: It was fun to do, and I learned to make 126 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: an amazing chicken sandwich that day from Maria who told 127 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: me it's all about steaming the bread. And I was 128 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: like what, And she knows how to make a damn 129 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: good chicken sandwich. So just a shout out to her 130 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: back to spill the beans anyway, so someone every now 131 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: and then the jar of beans. Every now and then 132 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: before the winners or results were announced, someone might like 133 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: knock the jar over, and if you did, then the 134 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: results were displayed early. Right, so they were called spilling 135 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: the beans. You were spilling the beans? Dunnaha, yay, what 136 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: did you think about that? Let me know, spill the beans. 137 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: Come on, spill the beans and let me know. Let 138 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: me know your results early. All right, Well, you have 139 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: a lovely, lovely week. This week we've got the wonderful 140 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: Kirby Bentley talking of Survivor. She was on the last season. 141 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: You will not want to miss this because we do 142 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: talk about Survivor, but more importantly we talk about indigenous affairs, 143 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: in particularly women, Indigenous women and violence against them. So 144 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: please tune in, Please let me know what you think. 145 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: I think you're really really gonna love it. It's a bloody 146 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: great episode. It was a great chat and my producer 147 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: Nellie fell off the chair. I get it. I know 148 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: what it's like to be a really happily heterosexual esh 149 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: woman in a great relationship who meets a woman that 150 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: goes well. Now, I see how some people can turn. 151 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Some women can turn because Kirby is a sexy, sexy woman. 152 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: She's a sexy human. Really, she's just this incredible energy 153 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: of m and the smile, best smile. You'll hear it 154 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: through the microphone. I promise you you will have a 155 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: wonderful week. I'll be your ears on Thursday. By