1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: On scorn Lous Australia. This is the reader Panahe Show. 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panahe Show. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, The PM's lavish beach house raises eyebrows. 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: And questions about his political judgment. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: Another renewable project in doubt as companies abandoned their construction plans. 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: I'll speak to Professor in Pimer about that. 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: A leading international security expert joins me with a warning 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: about the biggest danger facing the West today. 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: Also on the program tonight, Josh Hammer. 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 3: Would be latest from the US, including a plagiarism scandal 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: for Kamala Harris and talking about Left He's losing it. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: A bumper star studded edition tonight featuring a bold face 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: liar here actress Jennifer Garner. 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: Guy, is there anything sexier than a man who's like 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 4: Mentra Kamala Who. 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: Start with news from the Herald Sun. 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: Thousands of Victorian Department of Justice and Community Safety staff 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: are being forced to undertake taxpay funded white privileged training 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 3: in preparation for a government treaty with the state's aboriginal population. 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 3: The divisive and highly questionable material has caused an understandable 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: backlash amongst some staff. Opposition Justice spokesman Brad Batton has. 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: Called for the removal of. 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: The white Privileged module from the state funded training program. 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: He told the Herald Son workplace safety is essential and 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: to have training that discriminates on race just to deliver 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: on a WOK agenda is disgraceful. They must withdraw this 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: module as a matter of urgency. But Premier Center Alan 28 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: has expressed her support for the training. Well, of course 29 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: she has. That's no surprises. They're joining me now for 30 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: more on This is News Corps senior writer and columnist 31 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: Patrick Carlin and Patrick as a why privilege heterosexual sismle, 32 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if you're entitled to have an opinion 33 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: on this, but please try to offer one. 34 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 5: Well, I can understand why a lot of people do 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 5: have an opinion on it. Look at divides people. It 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 5: basically divides people by race. It says that you have 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 5: white people and you have non white people. And look, 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 5: it's activism dressed up as workplace reform, isn't it. I mean, 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 5: it's one thing for an activist to talk about white 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 5: privilege or structural racism and so on, but this is 41 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 5: actually in a training module. It is basically imposing an 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 5: abstraction as a fact, and a lot of people don't 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 5: like that. They might not understand what it actually implies, 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 5: but they know to be suspicious of it, don't they. 45 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 6: Oh? 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it is activism that becomes normalized in the workplace, 47 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: and then it just becomes something that you can't even 48 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: question because then you're the one who will be targeted. 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: The inclusion and tolerance does not stretch to mainstream opinions 50 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: like we're all the same, should all be treated the same? 51 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 5: That's right. Look, I think it's a divide more than unite. 52 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: Oh it doesn't. Actually, it won't do what it sets 53 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: out to do. It actually pushes back. 54 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: Well, none of these DEI diversity, equity inclusion policies are 55 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: really what they claim to be because they do divide 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: us rather than unite. Now let's go to the act. 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: A Greens candidate is under fire after he made some 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: ridiculous remarks posted to social media that he thinks we 59 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: should f in kill politicians, send them to the Hague 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: and hang them in the street. Another post read f 61 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: Israel and their genocide or regime. 62 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: I don't give an. 63 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: Shiit how many of their occupying forces die. 64 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: This is an addition to another. 65 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: Controversy Cruise was embroiled in where he was forced to 66 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: clarify a separate post on x where he purportedly suggested 67 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: that Hezbullah shouldn't be listed. 68 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: As a terrorist organization. 69 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: These posts are well, they're astonishing and they're not because 70 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: we expect this sort of stuff from the Greens these days. 71 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: Could he have been hacked? Is there an explanation for 72 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: this that's innocent? 73 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 5: It doesn't sound like it look it sounds like the 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 5: perfect Greens candidate, as you were saying. I mean, he's 75 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 5: stoking anti semitism, he's hateful, and he's very undergraduate. Even 76 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 5: the language. It sounds like a year nine after having 77 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 5: two beers or something and getting angry about trying to 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 5: save the world. It's ludicrous this stuff and the fact 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 5: he hasn't been disendorsed. Is it real worry? In the 80 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: Act where the Greens actually share power, they've got three 81 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 5: cabinet ministers. 82 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: Well, the Act is a different world, and I think 83 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: the referendum showed us that the entire country said no 84 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: and said it pretty strongly. 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: The Act different parallel universe. 86 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: They were all for it very strongly. Now Anthony Albernizi 87 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: has just bought a four point three million dollar beach 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: front holiday home in Copah Kabana, New South Welt, Central Coast. 89 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: I like sound of that Copa Kabana sounds like it's 90 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: in South America. This is a move that I don't 91 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: think is going to sit well with a lot of Australians. Patrick, 92 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: the cost of living crisis, housing crisis. Really is this 93 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: a smart move for a prime minister to be making 94 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: right now leading up to an election, especially because it's 95 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: a holiday home. Certainly as prime minister, he's not going 96 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: to be able to live there. 97 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 5: No, that's right, and look at to what you've been 98 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 5: described today as Albanese's Hawaii moment. The timing is terrible. 99 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 5: You're going to cost him living crisis, as you were saying, 100 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 5: he hasn't always. It makes him an easy target too 101 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 5: for the opposition to say, well, are you about to 102 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 5: check out? There are times when you look like you've 103 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 5: checked out during being prime minister? Is this actually a 104 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 5: sign that you're not fully invested? And it suggests that 105 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 5: he's totally out of touch with average people who cannot 106 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: pay the mortgage, who cannot pay the rent, who aren't 107 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 5: sure where they're going to be living in three months time. 108 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 3: There's certainly not spending four point three million on a 109 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: beach house or which is going to be used occasionally, 110 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: unless he's I don't know, hiding from us, that is 111 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: stepping down and hide to the beach. 112 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 5: What I don't understand he's paid four point three million 113 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 5: dollars for beach house and it doesn't even have a 114 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 5: swimming pool. 115 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: What's outrageous? Well, your speech is right there. 116 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 3: And also for a politician who's just traded so much 117 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: on his history as growing up in public housing and 118 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: that's just been a big part of his brand. Again, 119 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: you can see why this seems to be but it's 120 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: just a lack of political nous. Absolutely, wait until after. 121 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 2: The election to do it. I mean, it's just a 122 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: remarkable decision to be making. Now. 123 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: Now I want to ask you about a top fund 124 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: manager warning that labours proposed tax on superbalances of more 125 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: than three million could decimate self managed superfunder industry. The 126 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: entire industry would be in peril, according to Wilson Asset 127 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: Management chief Jeff Wilson. 128 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: He says that these taxes. 129 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: Would remove any benefit to invest your money into a 130 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: super fun and you'd be better off putting it into 131 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: a savings account instead. This is an area that I'm 132 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: surprised the alb and Easy government of venturing down because 133 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: it costs. Bill Shorten had a lot to do with 134 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: Bill Shorten losing the unlosable election. You would think they 135 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: would leave this industry alone for now. 136 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 5: And there's any to be dabbling with negative gearing and looks. 137 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: In their DNA they can't help themselves. 138 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 5: No, that's right, And look it sounds like a bad 139 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 5: sort of law for a number of reasons. The unintended 140 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 5: consequences that the fund managers are talking about. You're going 141 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 5: to draw all this money, You're going to dry out 142 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 5: all this money that goes into investment. It's going to 143 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 5: hurt productivity, it's going to economic growth. Australians are trained 144 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 5: from day one to avoid tax and if they're going 145 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 5: to get close to three million dollars, and it's a 146 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: threshold that isn't even indexed for the future. So three 147 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 5: million dollars today might sound like a lot, but in 148 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 5: five years time, or ten years time or twenty years time, 149 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: it's not so much. It's not even index and it's 150 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 5: going to have effects that we're not intended. 151 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: We invest that money with the current laws and rules 152 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: and then they're changed on you. I think that's also 153 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: what most people would. 154 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: See as unfair. 155 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: And it seems like we keep attacking people who are 156 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: trying to be self sufficient, whether it's through property investment 157 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: or self managed super fun who are sacrificing so they 158 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: don't go on the pension that can take care of themselves. 159 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: I just think that's just so shortsighted. 160 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 5: It really is anti aspirational. 161 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: Anti aspirational exactly. Patrick Carline, thank you so much for 162 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: your time this evening. 163 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: Thanks very joining. 164 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: Me now is a steam geologist and author, Professor Ian Plymer, Professor. 165 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: Let's start with Chris Bowen. 166 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: His green dreams have been dealt another blow after a 167 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: world leading offshore wind developer officially abandoned plans to build 168 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: a proposed offshore wind farm in the Illawarra wind zone, 169 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: and when asked about this, Chris Bowen's office has refused 170 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: to confirm whether there are other companies with any interest 171 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 3: in stepping in to fill this void. Will the taxpayers 172 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: have to step in here and heavily subsidize this plan 173 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: or provide even more incentives for companies to bid for 174 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 3: the project. 175 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 7: Well, these plans are already very heavily subsidized, and we 176 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 7: also pay very highly to keep them going. Now we 177 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 7: find in the UK that they had tenders for these 178 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 7: offshore wind monstrosities and one tender wasn't They had no 179 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 7: one bidding for it. Were found the same in Canada. 180 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 7: We found the same in Europe. The costs are too high, 181 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 7: the money's not there, and people are not prepared to 182 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 7: pay the risk. 183 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: But wait for it. 184 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 7: I've got a great idea. Instead of putting such wind 185 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 7: turbines on the Illawarra coast, why don't we put them 186 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 7: on the Central coast, just offshore from mister albany four 187 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 7: point three million dollar holiday home. If he was a 188 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 7: man of principle, he would love to see offshore Coca 189 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 7: Cabana covered in these wind turbines. And the best way 190 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 7: to fund it would be for me siperhind superannuation of politicians. 191 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 7: That would be the ideal principles that mister Albanese could 192 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 7: demonstrate to us. Now he would have a view of 193 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 7: the turbines. It would be the only scheme he'd which 194 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 7: had been successful after all the voice had and everything 195 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 7: else he touches falls apart. So I think this is 196 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 7: the way to do it. Forget all the coal underneath, 197 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 7: forget the fact that there's coal fired and coal minifted 198 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 7: not north of him, cover the central coast with these 199 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 7: and then when you've done that, through green seats and 200 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 7: teal seats, with wind turbites. They're non economic, the tax 201 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 7: payers funding them, the electricity consumers funding them. And if 202 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 7: people who are skinning us alive can't see that's it 203 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 7: quid to be made, then there has to be a 204 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 7: problem with them. 205 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: Now. 206 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: Chris Bowen is still focusing on the coalition's energy policy 207 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: is continuing to attack the opposition's nuclear policy. He posted 208 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: this on x He said, experts have told us that 209 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: Peter Dutton's nuclear scheme could cost six hundred billion, take 210 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: twenty years, only secure four percent of the energy greed 211 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: and push up your power bills hundreds of dollars. And 212 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: if this is the case for a uranium rich country 213 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: like US, why are so many other First World nations, 214 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: from Sweden to Japan to the US investing so heavily 215 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: in nuclear energy? 216 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 7: Because these numbers are wrong. Because look at Finland, their 217 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 7: electricity costs went down enormously by putting in big reactors. 218 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 7: The same happened in Sweden. We have a large amount 219 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 7: of electricity. More than seventy percent of the electricity from 220 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 7: France comes from nuclear reactors. They have the cheapest power 221 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 7: in Europe. These numbers are demonstrably wrong. And if he's 222 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 7: going to jump up and down about the opposition's numbers, 223 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 7: I want to see the numbers that he's suggesting for 224 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 7: these thousands of kilometers of high voltage wires that have 225 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 7: to cover farmlands from distal power stations, from these wind 226 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 7: turbines out in the middle of nowhere. He hasn't costed anything. 227 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 7: So once he starts costing his own projects, then he 228 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 7: can start worrying about costing of other projects. But this 229 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 7: doesn't pass the pub test. We know that in the 230 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 7: country's nuclear is reliable and it's cheap. And the last 231 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 7: point is he hasn't costed in how unreliable energy affects 232 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 7: the economy. If you have a power failure, if you 233 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 7: have a power outage and you're pouring metal in a foundry, 234 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 7: that metal freezis that costs a large amount of money. 235 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 7: So if you've got nuclear or coal or gas twenty 236 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 7: four to seven three sixty five, you can have cheap, 237 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 7: reliable energy. 238 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: Now, finally, I want to get your thoughts on space 239 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: X pulling off a massive feet in aerospace engineering with 240 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 3: these mechanical arms on the launch tower of its flagship 241 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: rocket called Starship, catching the rocket's boost a module after 242 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: it self detached following takeoff. The footage is just mind 243 00:13:53,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: blowing that they manage this spectacular achievement in I'm interested 244 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: in your thoughts because I'm not. This is an area 245 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: that doesn't normally interest me, but even I've watched this 246 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: footage over and over again in. 247 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 7: Awe, I think it's just absolutely fabulous. What engineers can 248 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 7: do is to solve problems and solve problems which we 249 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 7: thought were impossible. Now they can also do that with 250 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 7: their power for it. They can also do it with energy. 251 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 7: It's done every day in minds, it's done on farms. 252 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 7: So it is the engineers, not the ideological politicians, that 253 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 7: actually solved problems. And some of them like this. It 254 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 7: looks impossible, but it happened. So all I say is 255 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 7: we should glorify our engineers who can give us the 256 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 7: modern world. 257 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: And it just shows you what could happen in the 258 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: private sector. You see all the money that's gone to 259 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: NASA in recent years, and they didn't pull this off. 260 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: Elon Musk and space extit. 261 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 7: Yes, and there were no government committees trying to solve 262 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 7: these problems. And my experience has been the government committees 263 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 7: don't solve problems. They create income from people who are 264 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 7: eminently unemployable, and it's endless. At the end of a 265 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 7: committee session, they have another problem to solve. So I 266 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 7: just think this is a marvel of engineering, supported by capitalism, 267 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 7: supported by private enterprise, and we really should let governments 268 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 7: get out of the way, reduce the number of people 269 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 7: in the public service, and actually start building things like 270 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 7: a nation. 271 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: Halla, Lujah, Provacy and Plyma, thank you so much for 272 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: your time this evening. Now it's time for lefties losing 273 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: as we've got a celebrity extravaganza coming up. 274 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: But first to Gwen Woles, the wife of Tim Woles. 275 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: You'll remember her, Bye bye, Donald Trump. She's terrifying. Well 276 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: listen to her. 277 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: Here order people to take three friends with them to 278 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: the polling booth and need you to take yourself and 279 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: three friends to the ballot box and make your voice heard. 280 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: You have to vote. I'm going to repeat that again. 281 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 8: You and three of your friends have to make your 282 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 8: voices heard by voting. 283 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just grateful that she's stopped turning the page 284 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: and stop singing. 285 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 9: We were all stand a bench to the other. 286 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: Team will never yield and we will bergget. We're here, 287 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: we were faith for a victory. Weird, just weird. 288 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: And if you want to know just how weird this 289 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: couple is on this Columbus stay, Let's take a look 290 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: at what Governor Ti Walls said back in twenty twenty 291 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: when far left activists tore down a statue of Columbus. 292 00:16:50,040 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: Let's look at the destruction first. This is how Governor 293 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 3: Walls reacted. Not condemnation, not even mild criticism, but he 294 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: defended the leftist extremists destroying monuments. 295 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: He said that had legitimate concerns about a genocidal monument. 296 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 8: It was an act of civil disobedience that we need 297 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 8: to make sure people feel that there is a proper 298 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 8: outlet to address what are legitimate concerns around what they 299 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 8: view as a generalcidal monument that they have to walk 300 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 8: to in their democracy. 301 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: You want this character anywhere near the White House? Are 302 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: you in nuts? Now? 303 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: Yesterday we mocked him Wall's attempts to play the macho 304 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: man gun enthusiast. 305 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: That whole thing was frankly beyond parody. 306 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: But Kamala's antics are being parodied on Saturday Night Live. 307 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: Here she is playing family feud. 308 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 10: Okay, one hundred people surveying, top six answers on the board. Nay, 309 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 10: have something that you're keeping your glove compartment? Help, BP, 310 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 10: Harris Steve Look, I was raised in a middle class family. 311 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 10: All right, Oh here we go. 312 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: Okay. 313 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 11: My mother raised my sister and me, all right, she 314 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 11: worked hard and saved up. 315 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 5: Huh. 316 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: And we had a second mother too, Okay. 317 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 10: Did that mother have a glove compartment? 318 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: A small business owner named miss Shelton? 319 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 10: Okay, we got that something that you keep in your 320 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 10: global apartment. 321 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: Oh we're gluck stee if a big old glove. 322 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: Now, you know the Democrats are getting desperate when they 323 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: pull out the celebrity card. Last week we brought you 324 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 3: vision of Bruce Springsteen embarrassing himself with her publicly airing 325 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: his tedious symptoms trumped arrangement syndrome symptoms. It was unedifying, 326 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: and I regret to inform you that John bon Jovi 327 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: is also similarly afflicted, and even worse. He has written 328 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: a song about it all. He tweeted that he is 329 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: voting for Harrison Walls and this is the aforementioned song, 330 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: Brace Yourself. 331 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: The cringe is extreme. 332 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 12: These allus. 333 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: Let's say what other A listas are embarrassing themselves in 334 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: recent days? And uh, we've got Jennifer Ghana, actress, Jennifer Gannah. 335 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: She must be a. 336 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: Very good actress, indeed, because she set this outrageous lie 337 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: without laughing out loud. 338 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 4: I'm looking at these beautiful faces, these women and these 339 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: strong men. Guy, is there anything sexier than a man 340 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 4: who's like men for Kamala? 341 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 5: You? 342 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 4: You are the front line of this battle for lack 343 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: of a better word. 344 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: Is there anything sexier than men for Kamala? Yes? Everything, 345 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: Everything is sexier than dudes for Kamala? Are you kidding me? Now? 346 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: Let's get more daft celebrity endorsements delivered in cringe fact. 347 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: Here is Kerry Washington along with John Legend and his 348 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: wife Chrissy Teagan that's the model who was exposed for 349 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: sending the most vile trolling comments to teenagers, including telling 350 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: one to kill herself. Happily, those episodes are well behind her. 351 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: Now she's producing content. 352 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 13: Like this, I honestly, genuinely, fully when a hundred percent 353 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 13: sincerely believe that this is going to change people's lives. 354 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 3: And what is Michigan Governor direcchen Wigmer up to these days? Okay, 355 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: at least she wasn't saying anything unhinged in that clip. 356 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: Trump came all the. 357 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 11: Way to Michigan to beat down and insult the people 358 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 11: of Detroit. 359 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: So keep Detroit out. 360 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 11: Of your mouth, Donald Trump, and the words of Arica. 361 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: Sure Detroit is a little respect. 362 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: Keep Detroit out of your mouth, Donald Trump. 363 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 6: D me. 364 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: Now, this is a master cause in how to handle 365 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: the Democrats propaganda on the leftist losing it activists. 366 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: In the media. Here is JD. VADs on Abasa. 367 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 11: The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment conflux 368 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 11: apartment complexes, and the mayor said, our dedicated police officers 369 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 11: have acted on those concerns a handful of problems. 370 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 9: Only, Martha, do you hear yourself? 371 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 6: Only a handful of apartment complexes in America were taken 372 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 6: over by Venezuelan gangs, and Donald Trump is the problem 373 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 6: and not Kamala Harris's open border. Americans are so fed 374 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 6: up with what's going on, and they have every right 375 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 6: to be. And I really find this exchange, Martha's sort 376 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 6: of interesting because you seem to be more focused with 377 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 6: nitpicking everything that Donald Trump has said rather than acknowledging 378 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 6: that apartment complexes in the United States of America are 379 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 6: being taken over by violence. 380 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, just a few apartment complex There's nothing to worry about. 381 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: And here is JD Vance with New York Times reporter 382 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: Lulu Garcia Navarro who claims that you can't deport all 383 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: these illegal immigrants because they work in construction and we 384 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: need more houses than ever. I wonder if she was 385 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: against abolishing slavery too. Jd Vance treated her questions with 386 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: the disdain they deserve. 387 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 14: I don't think that many people who look into this 388 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 14: agree with you. But about a third of the construction 389 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 14: workforce in this country is Hispanic. Of those, a large 390 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 14: proportion are undocumented. So how do you propose to build 391 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 14: all the housing necessary that we need in this country 392 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 14: by removing all the people who are working in construction. 393 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 13: Well, I think it's a fair question because we know 394 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 13: that back in the nineteen sixties, when we had very 395 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 13: low levels of legal immigration, Americans didn't buy houses, didn't 396 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 13: build houses. But of course they did. And I'm being sarcastic, 397 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 13: of course, in service of a point. Again, this is 398 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 13: one of the really deranged things that I think a 399 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 13: legal immigration does to our society. Is it gets us 400 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 13: in a mindset of saying we can only build houses 401 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 13: with the legal immigrants. When we have seven million just men, 402 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 13: not even women, just men who have completely dropped out 403 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 13: of the labor force. People say, well, Americans won't do 404 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 13: those jobs. Americans won't do those jobs for below the 405 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 13: table wages still to come. 406 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: Josh Hammer with the latest from the US, including a 407 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: plagiarism scandal for Kamala Harris. 408 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back. Joining me now is Newsweek Senior editor at Large, 409 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 2: Josh Hammer. 410 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: Josh, let's have a listen to the Harris campaign's latest strategy, 411 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: and it's out there. Apparently the Republicans are hiding Donald Trump. 412 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. 413 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 15: Here's the thing. It makes you wonder. It makes you wonder, 414 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 15: why does his staff. 415 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: Want him to hide away. 416 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 3: One last question, one last question. 417 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 15: Are they afraid that people will see that he is 418 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 15: too weak and unstable? 419 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: Yes, one must wonder, josh one must one die? 420 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: Such a bizarre line. 421 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to work with the 422 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: undecided voters, but it's hard to think of a candidate 423 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 3: that's more out there than Donald Trump. He's everywhere, He's 424 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: on podcast, is doing every interviewed, He's doing press conferences 425 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 3: at take away shops like he's just questioned and talking 426 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: every day. 427 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, I believe that this is what psychiatrists call projection. 428 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 12: You know, I didn't study psychiatry in law school or 429 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 12: in grad school or whatever, but I mean, this is 430 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 12: a clear and obvious case of psychiatric or psychological projection, 431 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 12: is not. Tamala Harris is the one who only recently 432 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 12: started to change her media strategy a little bit. But 433 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 12: by the way, don't call it a media blitz because 434 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 12: she's just doing left wing echo chamber interviews. 435 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 9: Although I'll be at this week she's changing in a 436 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 9: little bit. 437 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 12: She actually she actually just now she's doing a sit 438 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 12: down interview with Brett Bayer of Fox News. Apparently the 439 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 12: latest scuttle butt is that she's also considering a potentially 440 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 12: three hour long sit down with Joe Rogan, the very 441 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 12: popular Austin, Texas based podcaster. I can't imagine how bad 442 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 12: her internal polling is. That she's agreeing to a sit 443 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 12: down interview with Brett bay Or of Fox News and 444 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 12: potentially three hours. God help us if we actually sit 445 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 12: through those full three hours with Joe Rogan. 446 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 9: Kamala Harris is not in good shape. 447 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 12: I mean, this has all of the indications of a 448 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 12: campaign that is currently going down the toilet. She is 449 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 12: losing momentum at the exact worst time possible. All of 450 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 12: the polling is shifting Donald Trump's way right now. She 451 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 12: peeked a little bit too early. They had that bump 452 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 12: after the coup of Joe Biden leading up to the 453 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 12: DNC in Chicago. But by the time I'm August turned 454 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 12: through September, she had the debate when fine, I guess, 455 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 12: but by mid to late September at the latest, it 456 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 12: was basically over for her. And I don't want to 457 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 12: prematurely call it. I'm not saying the elections over, but 458 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 12: she had reached her peak. She had reached her peak 459 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 12: in polling at this point. Now she's just flailing. So 460 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 12: she was in Eerie Pennsylvania. I think that clickly just offten. 461 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 12: I was thinking it was an eerie Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is 462 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 12: the number one battleground tad this cycle. Bob Casey, who 463 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 12: was the vulnerable senator running for reelection in Pennsylvania, did 464 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 12: not even appear with Kamala Harris at that rally in 465 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 12: Erie Pennsylvania because he knows that she's political poison in 466 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 12: that state. 467 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: That is not a good sign. And I would be 468 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: shocked if she does Rogan. 469 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: And if she does Rogan, you're right, her internal polling 470 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: must be absolutely circling the drain, because that is dangerous 471 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: for her to sit down with someone like him who 472 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: is not going to be just giving her softball questions. 473 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 3: He's going to actually hold her to account. That could 474 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 3: be an appste train wreck. Donald Trump has already I think, 475 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: indicated he's going. 476 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: To be doing Rogan. 477 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: But if she ends up doing it, wow, grab the popcorn. 478 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: It's going to be a fun one. But she also 479 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: had to go with Donald Trump for refusing to sit 480 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: down and talk to sixty minutes. 481 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 15: His staff won't let him do a sixty minutes interview 482 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 15: every president for the last half century has done on 483 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 15: anyone who's running for president. 484 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: Now, put to one side the fact that sixty minutes 485 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: audience is nowhere near what it used to be, I 486 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: can think of two very good reasons why Donald Trump should, 487 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 3: out of principle, not speak to sixty minutes again. 488 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts. 489 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: I'm interested to see if your reasons are the same 490 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: as mine. 491 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, Rita. 492 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 12: Here in the US, CBS News has recently exposed itself 493 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 12: as maybe the most blatantly corrupt of all of the 494 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 12: various corporate media networks. And that is saying a lot 495 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 12: what I just said, because there is a lot there. 496 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 12: There are a lot of options to choose run CBS News. 497 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 12: I mean, let's just run down the list and quick succession. First, 498 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 12: they hosted that vice presidential debate between JD. Vans and 499 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 12: Tim Walls, where JD Vans absolutely clobber Tim Walls. Not 500 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 12: stand the fact that the two CBS moderators were fact 501 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 12: checking JD. 502 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 9: Vans in real time. 503 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 12: Not stand the fact that they had given him their 504 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 12: exact word that they would not do that before the debate. 505 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 12: That's number one. Number two we had a Maoist struggle 506 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 12: session in real time at CBS News when the morning 507 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 12: anchor Tony Dokapil started to ask very reasonable basic questions 508 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 12: to left wing charlottean tana HEAs Coades he was on 509 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 12: to promote his deeply anti Semitic book The Message. Tony 510 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 12: docopol was asking very basic questions, why didn't you talk 511 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 12: about Hasbala the second Intofada? And apparently the big wigs 512 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 12: the c suite at CBS News was so upset that 513 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 12: their anchor had the temerity, had the hood spot to 514 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 12: ask basic questions to Tony easy coats, that they had 515 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 12: a company wide struggle session the next day whereby Tony Docapila, 516 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 12: the anchor actually broke down in tears. 517 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 9: I'm so sorry, Tod hes codes. 518 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 12: And then it came out in the aftermath of that 519 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 12: that there's standards in practice division at CBS News. Actually, 520 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 12: in a closely related point, they instructed all of the 521 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 12: anchors and journalists of the network to not refer to 522 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 12: Jerusalem as being in Israel. So this has all the 523 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 12: signs of a network. And by the way, I forgot 524 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 12: to mention the last part. They actually, as as we 525 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 12: all now know they actually edited Kamala Harris's own Sixty 526 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 12: Minutes interview. She gave this word salad of all word 527 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 12: salads when it came to US's relations and primus rental. 528 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 5: That was. 529 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: That was one of my two reasons, Josh that because 530 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: that was just so deeply dishonest to deceptively edit her answer. 531 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: And the answer they put wasn't even part of the 532 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: original answer. It wasn't that they cut it short. They 533 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: just switched things around to make her look strong and 534 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: decisive instead of absolutely incoherent and weak, which was what 535 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: her actual answer indicated. And the second reason and was 536 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: Donald Trump sat down with sixty Minutes last time around, 537 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty and they claimed that Hunter Biden's 538 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: laptop was Russian disinformation, that it wasn't real, and they've 539 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: never apologized for that. And I think that is just 540 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: another reason why Donald Trump should go tell them to jump. 541 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: Now. 542 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: Just moving on today is Columbus stay, but the Democrats 543 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: call it something else. 544 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: Nowadays, Let's have Kamala Harris explain. 545 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 15: That we celebrate Indigenous People's Day as we speak truth 546 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 15: about our nation's history. Since nineteen thirty four, every October, 547 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 15: the United States has recognized the voyage of the European 548 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 15: explorers who first landed on the shores of the Americas. 549 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 15: But that is not the whole story. That has never 550 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 15: been the whole story. Those explore your ushered in a 551 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 15: wave of devastation for tribal nations, perpetrating violence, stealing land, 552 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 15: and spreading disease. We must not shy away from this 553 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 15: shameful past. 554 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: Goodness, major's shameful past. 555 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: European explorers ushering in a wave of devastation, violence, stealing land, disease, 556 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: spreading disease. I mean, really, is this, uh how they 557 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: see America? 558 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: That's how they see Columbus Day? What do you make 559 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: of all that? 560 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 12: Rita, one of my oldest friends in the world, texted 561 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 12: me that clip earlier today and he said, you have 562 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 12: to watch this, And I actually watched it twice because 563 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 12: I actually couldnt believe what I had just seen. I mean, 564 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 12: this is right out of like a Babylon be headline. 565 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 12: This is right out of just a total parody satires 566 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 12: to get It's right out of Saturday Night Live. The 567 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 12: fact that the person who was the vice president of 568 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 12: United States, who is seeking a promotion to the leader 569 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 12: of the Free World, but get there and to say 570 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 12: the most clearly, clearly platitudinous lines that a left wing 571 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 12: woaster could ever issue about how all of the Americas 572 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 12: were conquered by white colonizers and settlers and this and that. Well, 573 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 12: I mean, I have a very basic question, miss Harris, 574 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 12: why are you running to be leader of the free world? 575 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 12: If you think that the free World, at least the 576 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 12: entire Western Hemisphere portion of it, was inherently founded and 577 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 12: settled in sin, that this is all a mistake. I mean, 578 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 12: should you know? You know her parents are immigrants. Her 579 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 12: parents came here from Jamaica and India. If it's continent 580 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 12: North America and the United States is so bad, why 581 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 12: didn't they just stay in India and Jamaica. Why are 582 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 12: you running for office in the first place? 583 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: There? 584 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 12: If this land was founded in such disgrace and ignominy, 585 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 12: I mean. 586 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 9: It's just thoroughly contemptible. It's so hypocritical. And you know what. 587 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 12: Ultimately, my conclusion when I saw this video was Tamala 588 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 12: Harris goes down in flames in three weeks time, which 589 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 12: I do predict that she will. I think that clips 590 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 12: like this are going to have a lot to do 591 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 12: with it, because she cannot get out of her own 592 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 12: left wing echo chamber, just like that stupid Call Your 593 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 12: Daddy whatever podcast when we're talking about slut shaming and 594 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 12: all these sexual acts. She can't get out of her 595 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 12: own bubble. And that's what you see. They're on that 596 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 12: clip right there as well. 597 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: Now, I would be very interested to see if she 598 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: says something similar to that now now that she's running 599 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: for president, because she'd said that a couple of years ago. 600 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: I think it was twenty twenty one. 601 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: But surely she hasn't changed her values dramatically from twenty 602 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 3: twenty one. 603 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: She was hardly young and naive. 604 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: She was vice president, and that's what she thought of 605 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: the country that. 606 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: She lives in that her parents emigrated to. 607 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 3: Now to a rather interesting development, Kamala Harris. Supporters of 608 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 3: referred to this books she wrote back in two thousand 609 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: and nine called Smart on Crime. This is when she 610 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 3: was a serving as a district attorney. They say this 611 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: is evidence that she's not soft on crime. She gets it. 612 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: But it's been revealed that numerous sections from that book 613 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 3: appear to have been plagiarized. Chris Ruffo, The Man who 614 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 3: exposed the plagiarism scandal at Harvard president Claudine Gayazer since 615 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 3: a stepped down, Well, he's published the allegations on x 616 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 3: following an investigation by Austrian plagiarism hunter Stefan Weber. The 617 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 3: cited passages, I've got to say, Josh, from the book, 618 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: it's remarkable some of them closely resemble or perfectly match 619 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: wording from other sources, including Wikipedia. Have a look at 620 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 3: this example. She's copied the source almost exactly. There's the 621 00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 3: word additional has been added there. That's about it. How 622 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 3: long before the lift is media covered this scandal, because 623 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: this is a genuine story, and I think a lot 624 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 3: of them are scared to even approach it. Some of 625 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: them are covering it as far as the Republicans reacting 626 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 3: to this story as opposed to the story itself. 627 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 12: So, first of all, credit to my friend Chris Rufo, 628 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 12: who I've known for years and he is one of 629 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 12: by far the most effective conservative activists that we have 630 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 12: here in America. He basically almost single handedly took down 631 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 12: Clauding Gay when she was president of Harvard for her 632 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 12: own plagiarism scandals, and he's trying to do it again 633 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 12: here with Kamala Harris. So fantastic work by Chris. Look, 634 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 12: if there is any justice in the world, this would 635 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 12: be a gargantuan story because the evidence, as we just 636 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 12: saw on the screen for all the viewers is absolutely overwhelming. 637 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 12: And you know, some people say, oh, she was a 638 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 12: public figure. She probably just had a ghostwriter. 639 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 9: Guess what. 640 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 12: I also ghost wrote a book for Senator Ted Cruz 641 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 12: in twenty twenty. Ghost writer is overstanding it. We worked 642 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 12: very closely on it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter 643 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 12: who is helping you on it. It matters who actually 644 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 12: publishes it under their own line. The bucks stops with 645 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 12: the person right there. And Kamala Harris is a plagiarizer. 646 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 12: Kamala Harris, by the way, just like Joe Biden, who 647 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 12: himself subsequently admitted to plagiarizing back when he was in 648 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 12: law school, which he did, Kamala Harras has plagiarized large 649 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 12: swaths here from no less a source than Wikipedia itself. Look, 650 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 12: I remember when I was in high school and they 651 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 12: would literally tell me in research class in high school, 652 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 12: do not cite Wikipedia. It is non authoritative source. Wants 653 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 12: to be leader of the free world, and she is 654 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 12: going ahead and sloppily signing it, in many cases actually 655 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 12: misquoting the statistics from Wikipedia. 656 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 9: There. It is a gargantuan story. 657 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 12: It cuts to the very core of the Republican case 658 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 12: against Kamala Harris, namely that she is a dim witted 659 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 12: moron who is not fit to be local dogcatcher, let 660 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 12: alone to be commander in chief of the greatest military 661 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 12: the world has ever seen. So I think it's a 662 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 12: terrible story for her. Your question, of course, is the 663 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 12: valid one. The media will do everything they can to 664 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 12: sweep this under the rug. I'm not sure it's going 665 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 12: to be the positive difference in this election, but it 666 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 12: should make at least an impact. I think that Donald 667 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 12: Trump is already winning this election, so certainly he's already 668 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 12: in better shape because of this. 669 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: Josh Hammer, always a pleasure, Thanks for your time. 670 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 9: Thank you, reader. 671 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 3: Coming up, a leading international security expert joins me with 672 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: a warning about the biggest danger facing the West. 673 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 674 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 3: Joining me now is author, academic and international security expert 675 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 3: doctor Max Abrams. Max, your field of expertise includes terrorism, 676 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 3: foreign policy. 677 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: And in particular the Middle East. 678 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 3: Right now, what do you see as the biggest threat 679 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 3: to the West, and are we in a uniquely vulnerable period. 680 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: This is a very interesting and interest time. We're basically 681 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: waiting for Israel to carry out its absolutely necessary attack 682 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: against Iran. Very recently, just a week or two go, 683 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: carried out the largest ballistic missile attack ever, and so 684 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: of course Israel is going to respond. Personally, I would 685 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: like to see Israel try to take out or at 686 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: least substantially degrade the Iranian nuclear facilities. My understanding, based 687 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: on public reports, is that that's not going to happen. 688 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: That the Biden White House is trying to rain Israel 689 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: in in order to limit its attack. But consider the 690 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: possibility of Iran having a nuclear weapon, and Iran is 691 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: basically on the threshold of that happening. It is often said, 692 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: but it is absolutely true that Iran is the number 693 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: one state sponsor in the world. Iran sponsors the WHU 694 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: thies Hamas Palestinian Islamic Jihad, has Bellah Iranian militia or 695 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: militia based in Iraq, and Iran has terrorist operatives all 696 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: over the world, in North America, in South America, in Europe. 697 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: So I see that as a very dangerous situation. I 698 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: think that a stronger response against rob and make the 699 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: world safer. But what's going to happen is that the 700 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: Israeli response is going to be somewhat rained in because 701 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: of pressure from the Biden White House. Then Iran is 702 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: going to respond, and depending on that the size of 703 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: that response that will dictate what Israel does next. If 704 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: the Iranian response is very large, if its mass casualty 705 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: attacks against Israeli civilians, then it's possible the Israelis would 706 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: ignore the Biden White House and go for the nuclear facility. 707 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: So this is a multiple iteration game and it's going 708 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: to play out over the next few weeks. But we're 709 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: at a very critical time period right now with respect 710 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: to whether the world is going to continue this Iranian threat. 711 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 3: Now, we've also had revelations from US intelligence officials of 712 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 3: a suspected Iranian plot to kill Donald Trump. Joe Biden 713 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 3: has responded to this. He is told the Iranian regime 714 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 3: that an assassination attempt against Donald Trump would be seen 715 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 3: as an act of war. 716 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 2: How seriously do you think. 717 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 3: The Iranian regime takes Joe Biden's words and why is 718 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 3: Iran so hell bent on preventing a second Trump term. 719 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: There's a very clear of friends moving forward in terms 720 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: of US policy toward Iran. Kamala Harris is basically seen 721 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: as an appeaser. She's much more pro Iran, and so 722 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: it's not that surprising really that Iran would take out 723 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Trump was very hardline against Iran last time 724 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: he was president. He slapped on those those maximum pressure 725 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: economic sanctions against Iran towards the end of his administration. 726 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: Towards the end of his term, he authorized taking out 727 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guardcore Soulamani, and so 728 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: ever since then, Iran has been a legitimate threat of 729 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: targeting not just Trump but also his administration. And so 730 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: I think that this is a very interesting development that 731 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: it's publicly disclosed that Iran, you know, is buying the 732 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: possibility or at least wants to take out Donald Trump. 733 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: But I also want American citizens to ask themselves the 734 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: question why is it that Iran so much favors Kamala Harris. 735 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think that when you ask that question, 736 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: it's indicative of a solid foreign policy, because Iran, of 737 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 1: course is a US adversary. It's not just a US adversary, 738 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: but it's an adversary throughout the region. And I think 739 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: that if Trump were to win the presidency, he would 740 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: push the Abraham Accords, which are essentially a means of 741 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: containing Iran, and I think that Trump would have more 742 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: success in that than he's often given credit. Or I 743 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: would like to see thud Arabia join that coalition in 744 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: order to contain the Runnian threat. By contrast, I do 745 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: not see Kamala Harris as pushing the Abraham accurts at all, 746 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: and I see kind of a similar policy as we 747 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: saw under the Obama administration, which was a failure. 748 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 3: Well, that was my next question. You mentioned Kamala Harris 749 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 3: as an apesa. What would US foreign policy look like 750 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: under a Harris Walls administration, not just in the Middle East, 751 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 3: but in terms of China and other threats to the West. 752 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: Or the Trump administration is about the rise of China. 753 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris was very recently asked about the main US 754 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: adversaries around the world, and she didn't even mention China. 755 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: There's a Elbridge Corby is widely believed to be potentially 756 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: a Defense secretary choice of Trump, And if you listen 757 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: to him, he is very much focused on the rise 758 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: of China, defending Taiwan, making sure that China doesn't aggrandize 759 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: the Pacific, as well as strengthening India in order to 760 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: act as a hedge against Chinese expansion in the Indo Pacific. 761 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: So that's another area where I think that Trump is 762 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: stronger than Kamala Harris. I think that Kamala, because of 763 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: the demographics and her constituency at home, would invest a 764 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: lot of energy in trying to work with Hamas and 765 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: trying to rekindle a peace process that isn't going to 766 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: work there. So Americans do have a real foreign policy choice. 767 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: I think that there would also be differences with respect 768 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: to the war in Ukraine. I think that the Biden 769 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: administration and Kamala Harris want to continue to perpetuate that war, 770 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: whereas I think that Donald Trump is much more interested 771 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: in ending it, even if it requires Ukraine making some 772 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 1: concessions to Russia. So there are a lot of different, 773 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, balls in the air, and some very clear 774 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: differences between the two main candidates. 775 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 3: Now, just finally, as a university professor, you would have 776 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 3: a great interest and insight into the leftist activism that 777 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 3: we see on university campuses across the West, not just 778 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 3: in the US. There is this anti Israeli protests, encampments, 779 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 3: just hostility towards what they call Zionists. What does that 780 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 3: mean for America and the West. It is the biggest 781 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 3: threat to us from within. 782 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: That's a good question, and I think that the answer 783 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: is yes. Remember throughout the Donald Trump presidency, the left 784 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: was always talking about how he's this right wing extremist 785 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: and how he, you know, is an anti Semite and 786 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: has dinner with an anti Semite, Nick Fuentes. And then 787 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: what happened right after Donald Trump during the Biden administration. 788 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: We've seen an unprecedented spike in anti Semitism under this 789 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: current president, and to a large extent, this manifests itself 790 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: in American cities, but most vividly on American campuses. And 791 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: make no mistake, it's not just you know, anti Israel position. 792 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: It's much worse than that. It is very much directed 793 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: against the Jewish students. And so they're targeting the hill Els, 794 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: you know, which is where the Jewish students go and 795 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: have Shabbat and celebrate you know, their religious Jewish holidays. 796 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,439 Speaker 1: This is all part of the dominance of the far 797 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: left agenda in higher education. Higher ed is not just 798 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: anti jew, it's anti Hindu, it's anti way. You need 799 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: to be part of a very limited preferred group in 800 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: order to gain privilege. And if you don't have privilege 801 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 1: the university, you know, the administration, the faculty as well 802 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 1: as the students, they're going to punish you for it. 803 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: And I would certainly hope and expect that under a 804 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 1: Trump administration we wouldn't see that kind of left wing 805 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: extremism which has been such a big feature of the 806 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: Biden administration. 807 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's hope that is climed down on because I've 808 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 3: just been surprised by the permissive attitude so many university 809 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 3: administrators have had to this anti semitism. There's this ugliness 810 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 3: that they've allowed to infect their campuses. It's been a 811 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 3: worrying trender. Dr Max Abrams, thank you so much for 812 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 3: your time this evening, and that's it from May. I'll 813 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 3: see you at eleven tomorrow. Up next is Newsnight.