1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fear and Greed Business Interview. I'm Sean Almer. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Something very different today. This isn't a business interview at all. Really. 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Last week, Fear and Greed held a special event, our 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: first live recording of the weekend edition, and at the 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: same time we officially launched Michael Thompson's second novel, All 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: the Perfect Days. Michael is with me this morning as 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: always to talk about that novel. Good morning, Michael. 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Hello Sean. 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Michael. It was a great night last Thursday night, and 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: the book is selling like hotcakes. Well, I don't know 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: whether that's true, but let's hope so it should because 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: it is a great read. It's your second novel, All 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: the Perfect Days. Like your first novel, the main character 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of has a supernatural thing happened to him in 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: this instance. What's going on in your mind? Michael? Why 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: had you come up with these slightly crazy Here we 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: say offbeat ideas. 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: Slightly crazy, but they're actually kind of thing, the kind 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: of thing I reckon shaw on that people think about that. 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: I mean, for instance, that the premise of this book, right, 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: it is about a small town family doctor by the 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: name of Charlie Knight, doctor Charlie Knight, and Charlie has 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: something extraordinary happened to him. As you mentioned, he basically 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: develops this ability to know exactly how many days his 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: patients have left alive, which is an extraordinary thing for 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: a doctor to know, but particularly in a small town. 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: He is a doctor is treating everyone everyone that they know, 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: they're family and friends and all, and suddenly they are 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: knowing something about them that they probably don't want to know. 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: And it kind of gets to that question then, of 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: would you want to know how long you have left? 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: And if you knew it about someone else, someone in 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: your family, someone that you knew, someone that you loved, 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: would you tell them? Would it change the way you live? 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: Would it change the way they live? And how would 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: you deal with that knowledge? And it's the kind of 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: thing I reckon that that we probably all actually think 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: about it various times, usually when you hear bad news 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: or you hear something happening to someone else, who go, Okay, 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: how would I deal with that if that was happening 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: to me? 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: And for me? 43 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: I just kind of took that idea and turned it 44 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: into a into a novel because I thought it is 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: it is something extraordinary and something that is worth exploring. 46 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: And I've made that sound very depressing, but it is. 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: In fact it is. 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: It's not no, no, It's an uplifting book. Though. On 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Thursday night you told the story of where the actual idea, 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: that the germ of the idea came from. And I 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: think that's really fascinating and quite honorable. 52 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: Really, it's a thank you. It's it came from a 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: conversation that I had many years ago with a colleague 54 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: at the time, and he called me on the day 55 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: that he had been diagnosed with an illness, and I 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: remember the conversation. He said, look, I'm going to be okay. 57 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: I'm in really good hands. The doctors are great, I'm 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: going to get through this. I'm going to keep working. 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: It's going to be all right. And it wasn't all right. 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: And a few years later he passed away. And then 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: kind of many years after that, I thought back to 62 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: that conversation just kind of came out of the blue, 63 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: just replaying that conversation in my head, and I thought, 64 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: if he had known how long he had left, that 65 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: he wasn't going to make it. That he did only 66 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: have those those kind of couple of years left would 67 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: he have continued, would he have kept working, and would 68 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 2: he have wanted to keep doing exactly what he was doing? 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: And I don't know the answer to that, because I mean, 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: no one, no one really does. But I mean there's 71 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: a very good chance that maybe he did in fact 72 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: love what he was doing and just loved being around 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: people that he got on well with and family and friends, 74 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: and that nothing would have actually changed if he had 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: known what the outcome was going to be. That really 76 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: those were the things that that gave him meaning and 77 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: purpose and value. And to me, I thought that was 78 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: that was worth exploring in this novel. 79 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: I think being a fit w is an incredible skill. 80 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Congratulations on that. How much of it comes from real life? 81 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Like you and I've we've been working together for five years, 82 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: am I? 83 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: In the novel, Look, there are elements of your, elements 84 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: of you, Sean, all all good bits. 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: It's you know. 86 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: The thing is that inevitably you notice things about people, 87 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: like you might notice the way somebody talks, or you 88 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: might just there might be a little quirk about somebody 89 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: that you think, oh, that's fun, and you then incorporate 90 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: that into a character. And so it would be very 91 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: very rare that you would take someone entirely from the 92 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: way that you see them in your life and just 93 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: translate that perfectly into a novel, into a character. It 94 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: is much more likely that there are little bits and 95 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: pieces from all over the place, whether it is kind 96 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: of those character traits, those little quirks and things, or 97 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: the way that somebody speaks, or an event that has 98 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: happened to you or to someone that you know, and 99 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: you take that and you twisted around a little bit. 100 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: It's just the inspiration for people, for characters, for events, 101 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: for the plot comes from all over the place. And 102 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: really it just goes, as we say, on fear and greed, 103 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: all into the mix master. That's right, and that's right, 104 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: and then and then comes out as a as a 105 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: complete book. 106 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I do like the fact that there's just points in 107 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: the book where your obsessions do come through. None more 108 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: than one of the characters loving his lawn. 109 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that one was definitely based on me. 110 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: I mean, there's no hiding that. I mean I have 111 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 2: a quite an affinity for a for a nice lawn, 112 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: which we have talked about in the past, and and yeah, 113 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: that that does come through. And like you will see 114 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: there is. There is so much passion in those couple 115 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: of paragraphs where I describe how glorious that lawn looks. 116 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: And you know that as I was writing that, I 117 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: was in justice in a state of euphoria. 118 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Readers, I want you to know, it's not just a 119 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: couple of paragraphs. It's a few more bit more than that. Michael, 120 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: we need to take a break. Stay with me. We'll 121 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: be right back. I'm speaking this morning to the one 122 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: Nay Michael Thompson, Mike co host on Fear and Green, 123 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: who has just launched his second novel, All the Perfect Days. 124 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: I want to go to the process of writing a book. 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: You are a very hard worker, and that is clear, 126 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: But how do you do it? Just to explain the 127 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: process of writing a book. 128 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: It is something that varies from writer to writer, and 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: it depends entirely on how you like to work. In writing, 130 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: there is people kind of fall into two camps. Really, 131 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: you have the plotters and the pantss. And so the 132 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: plotters are The plotters are those who, as the name 133 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: would suggest, they plot everything out in advance and they 134 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: take kind of copious notes on everything, characters, where the 135 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: book's going to go, and every single little thing that 136 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: happens between at the beginning and the end, and then 137 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: at the other end you have the pantss and that 138 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: is flying by the seat of your pants, and it 139 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: is you start and you just go for it and 140 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: see where you end up. And I am very much 141 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: more towards that end of it in that I find 142 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: that if you start planning too far ahead, it can 143 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: just it takes something away from it. Part of the 144 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: excitement and fun of writing comes from seeing where the 145 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: book goes and what happens as you go, and it 146 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: sounds I always thought it was very strange when people 147 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: talk about, oh, the characters did this, as though they 148 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: had a life of their own, But you actually do 149 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: find this as you're writing that really you are working 150 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: the story out as you go based on the way 151 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: that those characters would react to different things happening, and 152 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: you don't necessarily know, well, at least I don't how 153 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: that's going to play out until you get into that 154 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: situation and you're writing that scene and you're writing that conversation, 155 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, it just occurs to you, 156 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: this is where this is going to end up, and 157 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: this is where this is going to go, and so 158 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: that is how you kind of start at one point 159 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: and you just write and I just kind of keep 160 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: on going until I get there. And that's a long process. 161 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: So in Texas is an absolute compliment. When I was reading, 162 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: I had no idea how it was going to end, 163 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: so it just kept me guessing. But it seems that 164 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: you didn't know how it was going to end either 165 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: when you first started writing. At what point do you think, oh, 166 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: I know how we're going to conclude this. 167 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: Yes, that is true. I did not know where the 168 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: book was going to end until about probably two thirds 169 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: of the way through. And it was the same for 170 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: my first one, how to be remembered. When I sat 171 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: down and wrote that one, started writing, it wasn't sure 172 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: where it was going to end up until I was 173 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: probably at least halfway, probably two thirds of the way through. 174 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: And the thing is, the first draft of a book 175 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: can be very, very messy, and that's what a first 176 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: draft is for. You just get it down on the page, 177 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: because there is a saying that you can't edit a 178 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: blank page. As soon as you've got something down, you 179 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: can work with that. And so that's why the first 180 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: draft is exploring the book and just seeing where it goes. 181 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: And then in my case for all the Perfect Days, 182 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: it was seven rewrites, seven drafts after that, where you 183 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: just go over it again and again and again and 184 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 2: really is starting from scratch each time and just rewriting 185 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: the whole thing. And so by the end it comes 186 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: out very polished, from what was a very messy, very 187 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: kind of creative first draft to being a really quite 188 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: refined story and where you're really happy with the characters 189 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: and you're really happy with the way that it plays out. 190 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: And hopefully in this particular case, it's a book that 191 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: will make people think and as you say, uplifting. It 192 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: is hopeful, life affirming, and I would love to see 193 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: people kind of take this and talk about it. And 194 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: it is Sean, if I may give a blatant plug 195 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: a great book for book clubs. 196 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: Oh it is. It is. I mean just the concept 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: of the main character, Charlie Knight, is something that you 198 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: can talk about not stop, and then you read the 199 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: book and you come up against all the instances where 200 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: this interacts with his life and other people's lives, and 201 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: it is a great talking point. I'm interested any interest 202 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: from Hollywood. 203 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yes there is and I'm sorry I jumped all 204 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: over that one, didn't I No, it's a It's one 205 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: of those things where I have to be very vague 206 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 2: about it because it is still very early days. But 207 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: I mean the first the first book, that book was 208 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: optioned for film over there. The second book is there 209 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: have been has been interested, and there has been discussions 210 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: from parties over there, and which is just it is 211 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: honestly thrilling to have those conversations, to have somebody read 212 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: your book and see it playing out on a screen, 213 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: and to actually and to come to you and say, 214 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: I think this would work as a film or as 215 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: a TV series, this is what we would do, this 216 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: is what I like about it, this is what I 217 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: think would work, This is what will resonate with a 218 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: with a TV or a movie audience. And that is 219 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: really really exciting and gratifying. Then as a writer, to 220 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: have someone else read so much into your work, it's 221 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: really exciting. 222 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: Two books done, Hollywood interest. Surely there's a third in 223 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: the offing. 224 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: There is there is a third, and I have I'm 225 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: when I was talking about all those drafts that I 226 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: wrote for for all the perfect days, I am now 227 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: up to the third draft. Of the next book, and 228 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: so it is it is pretty well advanced. Actually, so 229 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: the third drafts will be a work in progress over 230 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: the next probably six months or so. It is. These 231 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: are very steady things. It's not something because when you're 232 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: dealing with say ninety hundred thousand, hundred and ten thousand words, 233 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: it's not something that you can just kind of knock 234 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: over in a week or two. It is. It is 235 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: a six month project of just chipping away at it 236 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: and working your way through, and eventually you'll end up 237 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: with something polished. But over the next next three months, 238 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: my big goal is to is really to talk to 239 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: as many people as I can about this book, about 240 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: all the perfect days. And I've launched the one hundred 241 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: book Clubs in one hundred days challenge, where I'm trying to, 242 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: as the name suggests, very creative name this, talk to 243 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: one hundred book clubs in your guest to today one 244 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: hundred days. And so if look at this, how many 245 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: blatant plugs can I squeeze into one? 246 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: If you're a book club, a member of a book club, 247 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: thinking about joining book club, thinking about creating one yourself, 248 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: we have your very first author that you can talk 249 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: to Michael Thompson. That's right, the author of All the 250 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Perfect Days. That should be your first book. Ye get 251 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: in touch with us Fearing Greed dot com dot au 252 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: through social media anyway. 253 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: I'll put a link in the show notes. You can 254 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 2: link directly, book in and I will join you for 255 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: a chat. Warning, it is very hard to stop me 256 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: talking once I start. 257 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: That's right. This interview is supposed to be over half 258 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: an hour ago and we're still going. Michael, congratulations on 259 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: your second book. It is a terrific read. I have 260 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: read it. It's fantastic, called All the Perfect Days. You 261 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: can get it obviously online or in any decent bookshop. 262 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Michael. In a funny way, this is weird 263 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: saying this to you. Thanks for talking to us this 264 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: morning on Fear and Greed. 265 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: Oh thanks for having me, Sean. It's been a pleasure. 266 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: This is the Fear and Greed Business Interview. Join us 267 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: every morning for the full episode of Fear and Greed. 268 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: This is this news you can use. I'm Sean Elmer. 269 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: Enjoy your day.