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Speaker 1: On scylds Ostrodia. This is the Wider Panety Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the reader Panety Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight. The vic Libs floundering with multiple polls today

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Speaker 2: revealing Labor is said to win a historic fourth term.

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Speaker 2: Dan wil will join me shortly to cover the day's

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Speaker 2: top headlines. Renewed calls for Kevin Rudd to do the

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Speaker 2: right thing by the country and step down as ambassador

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Speaker 2: to the US. Louise Roberts will have more on that

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Speaker 2: King Charles has been put in charge of saving the planet,

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Speaker 2: with the King's role redefined to include leading on environmental sustainability.

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Speaker 2: Professor Ian Plymer will weigh in on that issue, and

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Speaker 2: Army Horrowitz will be with me with the latest from

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Speaker 2: the US, and later in the hour, Kinsey Schofield with

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Speaker 2: all your celebrity and royal news and today's Lefties Losing

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Speaker 2: It features more than one detestable celebrity boys.

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Speaker 3: I've had a few, but then again I can't remember

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Speaker 3: exactly how many really, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But first, fresh polling has revealed that Victorian Labor is

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Speaker 2: said to win a historic fourth term, despite fifty nine

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Speaker 2: percent of Victorians believing that Labor does not deserve to

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Speaker 2: be re elected. The latest News poll has revealed that

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Speaker 2: even though sixty one percent of voters are dissatisfied with

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Speaker 2: Premier Justin to Allen, Labour still leads the coalition with

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Speaker 2: fifty three percent of the vote to the coalition's forty

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Speaker 2: seven on a two party per Therred Basis. Joining me

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Speaker 2: now for more on this is Deputy Executive Director of

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Speaker 2: the Institute of Public Affairs, Dan Wilde. Dan, this is

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Speaker 2: terrible news for the Libs. Not surprising, but terrible nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: and it comes despite leader Brad Batton beating just Into

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Speaker 2: Allen as preferred premier forty one to thirty six percent.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think they are still trailing a labor

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Speaker 2: government that is performing.

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Speaker 4: So badly because they're not seen as a credible alternative

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Speaker 4: to the current government, and in those situations voters will

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Speaker 4: go with better the devil that you know. It is

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Speaker 4: a depressing state of affairs where neither the coalition nor

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Speaker 4: Labor energizing the community. And that's not just the case

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Speaker 4: in Victoria. It was also the case federally where there

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Speaker 4: was no real enthusiasm for labor, but there was even

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Speaker 4: less enthusiasm for the Coalition because they weren't able to

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Speaker 4: show Australians that they were ready to be in government.

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Speaker 4: And that is exactly what's happening in Victoria. There's no

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Speaker 4: doubt that many Victorians and many Australians are fundamentally dissatisfied

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Speaker 4: with the political system as a whole. They don't believe

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Speaker 4: it's working in their interests and they don't believe the

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Speaker 4: political class reflects their values. But when they look at

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Speaker 4: the two options, they don't want either of them. So,

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Speaker 4: as I say, in those situations, most voters were just

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Speaker 4: default to the status quo.

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Speaker 1: And that's what's happening in Victoria.

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Speaker 2: Well, if we get the politicians we deserve, then we

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Speaker 2: in Victoria must have been a very bad lot at

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Speaker 2: some point, because we have got just some very mediocre options.

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Speaker 2: Red Bridge released a pole also today now that showed

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Speaker 2: voters across all sorts of age groups, Christians, tertiary educated voters,

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Speaker 2: women ditching the Coalition in favor of Labor. Labor led

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Speaker 2: that poll fifty one and a half percent of forty

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Speaker 2: eight and a half a So, now, personally, don't take

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Speaker 2: this particular pole that seriously, I've got to say it

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Speaker 2: showed the vic Libbs ahead of Labor last year, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's highly dubious. What do you make of

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Speaker 2: the fact, Dan, that the Liberals in this state cannot

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Speaker 2: get a decisive lead despite the ample material they have

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Speaker 2: to work with, and most recently we've had the very divisive,

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Speaker 2: very popular voice and treaty announcements.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the reason is because the opposition in Victoria

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Speaker 4: is not talking about issues that appeal to seventy or

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Speaker 4: to be unified and they want to have confidence that

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Speaker 4: they will have a government that will represent the entirety

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Speaker 4: of the state, rather than being a sectionally driven government,

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Speaker 4: which is what this labor government has been. I mean

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Speaker 4: for the whole ten years in Victoria, Labor has been

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Speaker 4: incredibly divisive, whether it was with lockdowns, whether it's with

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Speaker 4: the economy and higher taxes, whether it's with as you say,

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Speaker 4: the treaty and the anti democratic voice to Parliament and

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Speaker 4: what will be reparations payments. So what the Victorian Coalition

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Speaker 4: needs to do is it needs to offer a vision

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Speaker 4: for the future of Victoria that includes all Victorians, not

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Speaker 2: Staying in Victoria and after coming under fire for her

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Speaker 2: lackluster response to a fresh spaed of attack targeting the

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Speaker 2: Jewish community, Jacinta Allen has announced another task force. This

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Speaker 2: one is the Anti Hate Task Force. The Premier's response

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Speaker 2: comes after Israeli PI and Benjamin Neshiya, who weighed in

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Speaker 2: to stand alongside the Australian Jewish community and we demand

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Speaker 2: that the Australian government take all action to deal with

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Speaker 2: the writers to the fullest extent of the law and

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Speaker 2: prevent similar attacks in the future. Dan, we saw the

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Speaker 2: frightening scenes Friday night at a popular restaurant and a synagogue.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a look at what else happened in Melbourne

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. Here we have more hateful chance traffic

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Speaker 2: being blocked in the CBD and people being harassed. They'll

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Speaker 2: kill us, Dan, do you think this task force is

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Speaker 2: the answer? Is that the best the premier can do?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: Where's Joe Bilki Peterson when you need him? I mean

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Speaker 4: he would have known how to deal with the protesters. Look,

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Speaker 4: I think there's a couple of things. Noh, this task

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Speaker 4: force won't deal with the problems.

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Speaker 1: And there's a couple of points to make.

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Speaker 4: Firstly, just sin to Alan has no credibility on this issue.

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Speaker 4: Only a day or two before the latest anti semitism

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Speaker 4: in Victoria there was the release of the Commission report

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Speaker 4: on having a Voice to Parliament, reparations payments and a treaty.

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Speaker 4: So just sent to Alan is promoting racial division in

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Speaker 4: Victoria and saying that she's going to circumvent the democratic

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Speaker 4: vote against the Voice to Parliament at the same time

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Speaker 4: as she's saying that she wants to unite Victorians. She

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Speaker 4: is a leader without any credibility on this issue. You

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Speaker 4: cannot have it both ways. Either you believe that all

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Speaker 1: And justinto Allan does not believe that at all.

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Speaker 4: So this anti hate task force is doomed to farlire

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Speaker 4: to begin with. The second point that I would make

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Speaker 4: of having foreign conflicts which are millennia old, imported into

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Speaker 4: That's not what the Australian way of life is about

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Speaker 4: we are all Australians and if you're not interested in

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Speaker 4: no business being a citizen of this country. So I

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Speaker 4: think it's time for these protesters to be stopped and

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Speaker 2: Now, look at an anti groping campaign from Germany. This

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Speaker 2: has come about amid growing numbers of assaults, including at

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Speaker 2: public swimming pools. Most recently, at least nine girls age

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Speaker 2: between eleven and seventeen were allegedly groped in a public

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Speaker 2: a number of similar cases. But what does this anti

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Speaker 2: assault campaign look like. Well, let's just have a look

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Speaker 2: at some of the images they've come up, where there's

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Speaker 2: full of white people, including women, assaulting brown people. Most amusingly,

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Speaker 2: I've got to say, there's a reddit headed woman who's

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Speaker 2: groping a man with a wooden leg. I shouldn't laugh, dad,

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Speaker 2: but this is just so typical of the hard left,

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Speaker 2: where they recognize there's a problem, but this is their

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Speaker 2: solution to it almost make a mockery of the actual

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Speaker 1: Well, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I think it's further evidence that multiculturalism as an ideology

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Speaker 4: has failed. I mean, in the Western world, we have

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Speaker 4: and within that culture we have a very rich and

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Speaker 4: that sheared culture and set of values. But this is

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Speaker 4: sort of the endpoint of treating all cultures as equal

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Speaker 4: and therefore refusing to talk about some of the problems

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Speaker 4: that have taken place with these mass migration programs, which

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Speaker 4: have had massive numbers, but have also had no real

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Speaker 4: regard to the kind of social values of those who

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Speaker 4: just talking before about division in Victoria and Australia, and

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Speaker 4: I think it further highlights the critical importance of social cohesion.

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Speaker 4: Western societies are more divided than any time since World

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Speaker 4: War Two, yet we have leaders that refuse to talk

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Speaker 4: about these very important shoes.

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Speaker 2: Now before you go, let's have a look at it.

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Speaker 2: What a difference a year makes. Last Independent staye Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden was in the White House and whoever was pulling

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Speaker 2: lifetime ago now, and now we've got Donald Trump and

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Speaker 2: First Lady Millenia celebrating the July fourth fireworks on the

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Just heartwarming scenes.

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Speaker 4: There, Dan, Well, that's right. I think that there's been

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Speaker 4: a big change. It shows what a change in leadership

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Speaker 4: can do. And you know, I think that the current president,

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump has never shied away from the fact that

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Speaker 4: And I think a lot of Americans have really rallied

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Speaker 4: think if you look at Trump's policies, the American First

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Speaker 4: policies have proven to be popular. A recent poll showed

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Speaker 4: that Donald Trump is actually more popular than what Ronald

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Speaker 4: So look, I think a lot of Americans are welcoming

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're right about the popularity. There was a polling

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Speaker 2: that CNN of All Places showed last week showing that

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Speaker 2: amongst Republicans, Donald Trump is the most popular president ever.

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Speaker 2: He was even more popular than Ronald Reagan after the

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Speaker 2: assassination attempt, so that in itself is astonishing given the

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Speaker 2: relentless bad media he receives. Dan, While thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time tonight. Joining me now is Sky

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Speaker 2: News contributor Louise Roberts. Louise, there's been an enormous reaction

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Speaker 2: weekend calling on Kevin Rudd to resign as Australia's ambassador

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Speaker 2: to the US. Tell me why you argue that he

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Speaker 2: needs to do this for the good of the country.

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Speaker 7: Well, we have the footprint of the comments that he

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Speaker 7: made about the US president before he was a diplomat,

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Speaker 7: before he was appointed to this role, which made the

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Speaker 7: poinment even more curious in my book, But it's clear

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Speaker 7: that mister Albinezi cannot meet with mister Trump.

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Speaker 2: There's no meeting.

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Speaker 7: The G seven meeting was canceled and nothing else has

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Speaker 7: been put in the diary since then. And what's happened

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Speaker 7: is Brent Buchanan, who's a former polster with Donald Trump,

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Speaker 7: has said that Kevin Rudd is the problem. He was

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Speaker 7: very specific about that. He said that the US President

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Speaker 7: doesn't like dealing with him and thinks that Australia should

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Speaker 7: find an Australian and replace him with someone that he

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Speaker 7: wants to actually deal with. So to me, it's a

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Speaker 7: need to find someone who will represent our interests in

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Speaker 7: if there's no meeting with mister Albanezy and mister Rudd

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Speaker 2: Well, let's review why Kevin Rudd is seen as a

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Speaker 2: Trumpet basher. He's earned that reputation. He said the president

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Speaker 8: In the last four years has been run by a

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Speaker 7: Louise Well, absolutely, I mean, if you were the president,

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Speaker 7: Well, that's right, And how does he make it look

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Speaker 2: Ian Plymer. Ian. Let's start in Victoria. The government here

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Speaker 2: Are not the King as suppli'mer fascinating. Thanks for your

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Speaker 2: time tonight. Thank you still to karma left his losing

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Speaker 2: a plus. Donald Trump lashes out at Elon Musk after

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Speaker 2: details watching the Reader Panehy Show, and it's time for

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Speaker 2: lefties losing it let's start with celebrities saying stupid things.

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Speaker 2: It's an epidemic. Here is songstress Shakira. You remember her,

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Speaker 3: Because I was just letting you you run with them

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Speaker 1: Do you fight in the army?

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Speaker 8: Let me tell on you. Bets I would fight against

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Speaker 8: To some extent, I like socialism, I like freedom for

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Speaker 2: Can you believe that he loves socialism and freedom? That's

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Speaker 2: That's real toxic masculinity when they don't appear to have

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Speaker 2: of advice to any criminals looking to escape Alligator Alcatraz

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Speaker 11: Snake surpass but alligators. A maglodata them. How to run

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Speaker 2: pill Mar pointing out his lefty audience that when it

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Speaker 2: comes to crazy conspiracy theories, well the left eye repeat offenders.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's only conspiracy theorists on the right.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many people came up to

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Speaker 2: me around that time.

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Speaker 13: Bill, don't you think that assassination to temp was staged?

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Speaker 5: Staged in Walk me through how you could stage a bullet.

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Speaker 11: Hitting just the tip of your ear.

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Speaker 2: From five hundred feet away.

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Speaker 11: Ye, shoot it at my head, I trust you, but

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Speaker 11: just graze me.

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Speaker 1: It's a new shirt.

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Speaker 11: I don't want to get a.

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Speaker 5: Lot, you know.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's look at just how far left the Democrats

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Speaker 2: have become across so many issues, and they've also become

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Speaker 2: strongly anti Israel. Zora and Mamdani isn't an aberration, he

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Speaker 2: is the Democrat's future.

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Speaker 5: Politics have changed around this issue among Democrats.

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Speaker 1: What are we talking about here, all right?

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Speaker 5: Who Democrats sympathized more with Israelis or Palestinians. In twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 5: the Democratic Party was a pro Israeli party.

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Speaker 1: Look at this.

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Speaker 5: They sympathized with the Israelis by thirteen points, one with

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Speaker 5: the Israelis than the Palestines.

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Speaker 1: But look at this sea change.

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Speaker 5: Now Democrats sympathize one with the Palestinians.

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Speaker 11: By forty three points.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, that is a change in the margin

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Speaker 5: of fifty six points over the course of just eight years.

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Speaker 5: So all of a sudden, it's the pro Palestinian position

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Speaker 5: that actually reigns supreme in democratic politics, not the Israeli position.

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Speaker 5: And that is part of the reason why Mondani was

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Speaker 5: able to do so well in this primary, because those

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Speaker 5: attacks over Israel, simply put, did not ring true for Democrats.

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Speaker 5: They are now on the side of the Palestinians, not

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Speaker 5: the Israelis.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is documentary filmmaker and commentator Army Heroiz.

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Speaker 2: Army a fifty six percent swing in just eight years.

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Speaker 2: And that swing is even stronger when you look at

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Speaker 2: demmocrats who are under fifty. Let's have a look at

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Speaker 2: that data, who.

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Speaker 5: Age eighteen to forty nine Democrats sympathize more of with

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Speaker 5: the Israelis are the Palestinians. Again, in twenty seventeen, younger

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Speaker 5: Democrats sympathize more with the Israelis by fourteen points. Look

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Speaker 5: at this shift. Now Palestinians, they sympathize more at the

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Speaker 5: Palestinians by fifty seven points. That is an over seventy

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Speaker 5: point shift in the margin in just a matter of

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Speaker 5: eight years.

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Speaker 2: A MEI. The data there is astonishing. What are the

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Speaker 2: reasons behind this phenomenon.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, look, Rita, you said this may be the Democrats future. Frankly,

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Speaker 11: I think it might be their present. Unfortunately, the left

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Speaker 11: in general are at war with success. Okay, That's what

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Speaker 11: defines the left these days. And they look look, if

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Speaker 11: you pull out from Israel, you look at the way

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Speaker 11: they feel about America and even greater Western civilization. They

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Speaker 11: have almost the same amount of vitriol and hatred because

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Speaker 11: those are the most successful groups in the world. Right,

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Speaker 11: and Israel is a distillation of that hatred. Israel and frankly,

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Speaker 11: any Semitism. The two of the are two sides of

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Speaker 11: the same coin. Because Israel is a is excellence in

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Speaker 11: a sea of mediocrity. Right, it's that that given Yang,

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Speaker 11: that balance between success and mid You look at Israel,

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Speaker 11: it has seven times the GDP per capita of the

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Speaker 11: Arab world, and that and the air world, by the way,

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Speaker 11: includes the oil rich countries of Saudi Arabia and Qatar

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Speaker 11: and the UAE. Right, even with that, they have seven

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Speaker 11: times their GDP. And they're not just pulling putting a

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Speaker 11: straw on the ground and sucking out oil and selling it.

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Speaker 11: They have created that GDP success because they have as

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Speaker 11: the as the Israeli has had Sehl. They have brains, right,

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Speaker 11: they are creating, they have a technology wonderland where they're

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Speaker 11: able to to create just through their mind and export

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Speaker 11: of technology and excellence. And and the left hates that. Right,

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Speaker 11: everything is looked through the oppressor oppressed pyramid and through

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Speaker 11: the intersectional pyramid, right that that that that again, everything

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Speaker 11: is looked through that prism. They see that whoever's that

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Speaker 11: tippy top from the pyramid of success, you are the

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Speaker 11: most oppressive, right because you can only have gone to

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Speaker 11: the top of that pyramid by stepping on the necks

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Speaker 11: of people below you. And they look at the Jews

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Speaker 11: and Israel, rightly or wrong, at the top of the

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Speaker 11: economic pyramid. And that's why they have so much hatred

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Speaker 11: for the state of Israel. And that's that's really the

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Speaker 11: future of the you said the Feu Democratic Party. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: in a lot of ways, it's currently what we're seeing today.

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Speaker 2: Now, Amy, you're going to have to think, come to

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Speaker 2: the realization of this character. I'm Dannie, This dude who

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Speaker 2: hates America, hides the polates, hates capitualism, mocks showsually that

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Speaker 2: skits like this.

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Speaker 12: Caution.

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Speaker 2: I'm in This character is the clear front runner to

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Speaker 2: be the mayor of your beloved New York. Have a

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Speaker 2: look at this poll. He's right now most likely to win.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to stay in New York if that happens?

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Speaker 11: Is there existential questions that I'm not prepared for? Reader?

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Speaker 11: Come on, I don't know. I can't say that. I mean, look,

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Speaker 11: this is my I'm loyal to the soil. Reader. What

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Speaker 11: can I tell you right, good or bad?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 11: The truth is, of course, look, if this thing goes

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Speaker 11: New York goes to where it was in the seventies

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Speaker 11: and the eighties, of course I'm not going to stay here.

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Speaker 11: And the point is, no one with any amount of

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Speaker 11: money is when it's there. Why should they? There's so

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Speaker 11: many options in this great, vast country. Despite the fact

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Speaker 11: that I'm Donnie over and over says, where else are

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Speaker 11: they going to go? Madonnie? Everywhere else? And any where's

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Speaker 11: the country? They can go, by the way, and if

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Speaker 11: you have real mobility, you could leave the country altogether. Look, uh,

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Speaker 11: rita hot take alert. Okay, you're ready for this? Okay,

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Speaker 11: I don't think I'm dying. I know the number show

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Speaker 11: that he's leading by by a significant margin. That that

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Speaker 11: that that poll was true. But if you break it

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Speaker 11: down a little bit, it really is a race. It's

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Speaker 11: a three way race between Como, Adams and ma'mdonnie. I

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Speaker 11: think that Cuomo, despite being one of the great narcissists

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Speaker 11: of our current politics, I think the the pressure on

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Speaker 11: him to withdraw is immense. He hasn't done it yet,

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Speaker 11: but his the base of Quomo's electorate is black people

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Speaker 11: and you and the unions, and they are both leaving

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Speaker 11: him in droves. I think he's seeing that. In addition

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Speaker 11: to that, most of his money that's electoral support, Most

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Speaker 11: of his money came to the billionaire class, right Bloomberg

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Speaker 11: gave him eight point five million dollars and he got

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Speaker 11: millions from other massive wealthy donors. They are all leaving

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Speaker 11: him and pressuring him to leave in a significant way.

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Speaker 11: And then lastly, I got to be honest, even the

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Speaker 11: Conservatives are all anywhere on the street. I mean, they're saying, look,

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Speaker 11: we don't like it, but we're going to vote for

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Speaker 11: Adams that we really need to throw a support because

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Speaker 11: they understand the existential.

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Speaker 2: Nature conserving This is three Democrats we're talking about CuMo Man,

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Speaker 2: Dannie and Adams. I mean, this is the problem with

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Speaker 2: New York and so many other one party towns. They're

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Speaker 2: really not much choice, so you get more and more

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Speaker 2: extreme Democrats who become an option. Now let's move along

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Speaker 2: to Donald Trump responding to Elon Musk launching the America Ria. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is not impressed.

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Speaker 13: I think as ridiculous to start a third party. We

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Speaker 13: have a tremendous success.

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Speaker 11: With the Republican Party.

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Speaker 13: The Democrats have lost their way, but it's always been

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Speaker 13: a two party system, and I think starting a third

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Speaker 13: party just hands to confusion. It really seems to have

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Speaker 13: been developed for two parties. Third parties have never worked,

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Speaker 13: So he can have fun with it, but I think

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Speaker 13: it's ridiculous Army.

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Speaker 2: This seems ill advised from Alan unless he wants to

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Speaker 2: splinter the center right vote and deliver the White House

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Speaker 2: to the Democrats. I don't really know what he hopes

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Speaker 2: to achieve with this America Party.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, look, the Democrats are We've talked about it. For

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Speaker 11: the Democrats are imploding because they are embracing hard left policies.

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Speaker 11: The only way the Republicans are going to squander this

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Speaker 11: opportunity is by infighting and i splintering of the party,

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Speaker 11: and that's what you really see. Look, the system is

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Speaker 11: not set up for third parties, right, the America First

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Speaker 11: Party just not. It's set up for two parties. What

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Speaker 11: third parties have done in the past is they've thrown

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Speaker 11: the election in one way or another. And I'm afraid

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Speaker 11: that's what we're going to see with the America Party, right,

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Speaker 11: because that's the way the system is kind of set up. Look,

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Speaker 11: you've seen a bunch of like I said, the splintering

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Speaker 11: of the Republican Party. You've seen it on a political

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Speaker 11: level with the Tad Republicans and the Isolation's Republicans, but

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Speaker 11: you've also seen it among the economics of the Republican Party,

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Speaker 11: and that's actually had an even larger effect. You saw

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Speaker 11: it with the Big Beautiful Bill and the fighting infighting

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Speaker 11: that was going on with that. Well, I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 11: talk about, but you see, it's kind of split between

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Speaker 11: kind of three parties.

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Speaker 9: You have the.

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Speaker 11: Fiscal hawks who want lower debt, lower taxes, lower spendings,

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Speaker 11: and then you have the more economic populists like Josh Holly,

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Speaker 11: where they're looking to have more spending and lower taxes.

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Speaker 11: And then you have the tech bro wing right, which

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Speaker 11: obviously Elon Musk is behind. Where they're looking for. Yes,

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Speaker 11: they really want a focus on subsidies in technology, right.

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Speaker 11: I think they're and and that's kind of a because

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Speaker 11: they see that in the war with China and Ai

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Speaker 11: for example, they think subsidization is really important. So I

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Speaker 11: think that's a significant problem for the Republican Party. And look,

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Speaker 11: you see him him being Elon Musk, say he's going

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Speaker 11: to primary Republicans right, and he even through his support

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Speaker 11: behind Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey is a terrible, terrible person

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Speaker 11: on the Republican map, super anti Israel, super isolationists, damaging

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Speaker 11: the Republican brand. You see Elon Musk lining up on

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Speaker 11: Thomas Massey. That's a problem.

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Speaker 2: I think Elon is going to lose interest in this

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Speaker 2: very quickly. I think he would have seen those polls

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Speaker 2: we talked about it earlier in the program where Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is the most popular president among Republicans, ever more

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Speaker 2: popular than Reagan after the assassination attempt. I think he's

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Speaker 2: going to look at that data and realize, really, does

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Speaker 2: he want to be backing a loser or does he

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Speaker 2: want to be throwing his lot in with something that

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Speaker 2: isn't ultimately going to succeed. He is, He's a winner

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Speaker 2: and that's what he has been throughout his astonishing career. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about Ukraine and Russia. Donald Trump had another

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Speaker 2: phone call with the Russian President Vladimir Putin. Indeed, we

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Speaker 2: saw Putin abruptly leave US speaking engagement to take this call.

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Speaker 2: He said the President would be offended if he was

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Speaker 2: kept waiting.

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Speaker 14: That's a big decision, especially, I mean, we know it

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Speaker 14: was a lengthy phone call, but not a fruitful one.

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Speaker 2: What more can the US do to bring this war

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Speaker 2: to an end?

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Speaker 11: Look, what's sad about this entire thing, reader, is that

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Speaker 11: we kind of know how this is going to end,

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Speaker 11: and we've known how it's going to end really really

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Speaker 11: early on in this war between Ukraine and Russia. Right

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Speaker 11: in the day, the goal was we want to make

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Speaker 11: sure they don't take over Kiev, right that was the

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Speaker 11: main thing, and we weren't sure whether that would happen. Well,

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Speaker 11: clearly that's no longer the case. Clearly the lines have

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Speaker 11: been drawn and that the central major part of Ukraine

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Speaker 11: is going to be geographically intact. But you also don't

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Speaker 11: see Ukraine dislodging Russian forces from a large portion of

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Speaker 11: eastern Ukraine, right which the Russian speaking part of Ukraine.

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Speaker 11: I think ultimately that's what it is. I think what's

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Speaker 11: gonna come down to is simply, and I think it's

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Speaker 11: gonna be letting, letting Ukraine know that, guys, this is

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Speaker 11: ultily what it's going to be. We will ensure right. Look,

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Speaker 11: I am, I do know. Here's what I don't want.

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Speaker 11: And I've been on this show and other places a

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Speaker 11: vocal supporter of Ukraine. I've denounced Russia over and over again.

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Speaker 11: But one thing I don't want is I do not

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Speaker 11: want an offer of bringing Ukraine into the EU or

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Speaker 11: into That's something I've not wanted even before this war.

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Speaker 11: But ultimately, what we can't do is give them security

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Speaker 11: guarantees and say, look, we will make sure there will

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Speaker 11: never be a takeover of Ukraine from Russia if they

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Speaker 11: reinvade again. But you have to give up the enclaves

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Speaker 11: that Russia controls right now that you're simply not gona

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Speaker 11: build to large them. That's the answer. I think it

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Speaker 11: becomes a negotiation this point, that's all it is.

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Speaker 2: I think reality has to set in. Mihrowitz, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for your time. Tonight still to come and

678
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Speaker 2: trouble in Paradise? Why are Harry and Meghan cutting household stop?

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Speaker 2: Kinsey Scofield has the details. Welcome back Joining me now

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Speaker 2: is celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, there seems

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Speaker 2: to be trouble in Paradise. The grifters our favorit if

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Speaker 2: it's winder and ginger. Harry and Meghan have reportedly cut

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Speaker 2: household staff to try and save money.

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Speaker 10: I mean, labor is expensive. But I do have a

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Speaker 10: source that is a proud member of the Sussex Survivors

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Speaker 10: Club who told me she's still experiencing issues after leaving

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Speaker 10: Meghan's employment and the way she treated me, she says

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Speaker 10: of Megan can only be described as dehumanizing. She also said,

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Speaker 10: you only hear about the professional positions, but the household

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Speaker 10: staff departures are much higher. It actually became quite comical

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Speaker 10: because during a certain period it felt like every week

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Speaker 10: there was something new someone knew who left. So these

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Speaker 10: numbers we've been reporting for years aren't accurate at all.

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Speaker 10: The turnover is horrible.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I would love to know what the whole turnover

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Speaker 2: rate is when you count the the staff or aren't

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Speaker 2: in senior positions. This source, you have this person who

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Speaker 2: is still traumatized by I shouldn't laugh. But by the

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Speaker 2: time with Meghan, what was her main issue? What did

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Speaker 2: she do to dehumanize her?

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Speaker 10: I mean, one of the things that she pointed out

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Speaker 10: was that Megan was incredibly ugly when Harry wasn't around,

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Speaker 10: but as soon as Harry was around. And another point

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Speaker 10: they made was the mask slipped after about six weeks,

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Speaker 10: that Meghan was like a fairy, like so happy and

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Speaker 10: just full of joy and sweetness. But after about six

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Speaker 10: weeks the mask slipped and they felt like the real

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Speaker 10: Meghan came out to play, and that Meghan typically is

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Speaker 10: ugly when Harry's not around, but if Harry catches Megan

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Speaker 10: being nasty, he does step in and defend the staff,

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Speaker 10: which I thought was incredibly interesting.

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Speaker 2: That is an interesting dynamic. Now let's move along to

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Speaker 2: Kendall Jenna. She was spotted taking a shot of liquor

714
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Speaker 2: while balancing a sixty thousand dollar handbag on her head.

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Speaker 2: Can see her appearance at Jeff Bezos and Laurence Sanchez's

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Speaker 2: wedding has been called tone death.

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Speaker 5: Rita.

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Speaker 10: I think we might think twice before questioning the Kardashian

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Speaker 10: skill level. Ever again, after seeing this video, if somebody says,

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Speaker 10: what talents do they have? At least now we can

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Speaker 10: point to this video. I don't drink and I wouldn't

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Speaker 10: buy that bag even if I could afford to you.

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Speaker 10: But I will applaud Kendall Jenner for inspiring world peace

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Speaker 10: with her PEPSI commercial. A lot of people are like,

725
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Speaker 10: look at what I remember, and I'm asking myself or

726
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Speaker 10: is it Trump or is it Kendall Jenner reader.

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Speaker 11: I mean, who knows?

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Speaker 2: Well? I think she should have got a Noble Peace

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Speaker 2: Prize nomination for that. It's shocking she didn't. But I

730
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Speaker 2: know the Albanians like balancing glasses on their head, wine

731
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Speaker 2: or liquor glasses, not sunglasses on their head whilst they

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Speaker 2: have a drink and whilst they dance. But I've never

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Speaker 2: seen a handbag. Now let's talk about Jeff Bezos, because

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Speaker 2: there's rumors that he might be buying Vogue magazine. Why

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Speaker 2: would he do that?

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Speaker 10: Well, look, all I can say is please, I would

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Speaker 10: love that for us This is the same publication that

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Speaker 10: refuses to put Malania Trump on the cover. Say what

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Speaker 10: you want about Milania Trump. She's a knockout and I

740
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Speaker 10: love looking at her. Earlier this year, The Daily Beast

741
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Speaker 10: wrote a piece titled Jeff Bezos turns Washington Post a

742
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Speaker 10: full maga to fury of reporters, this is the shakeup

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Speaker 10: in fashion that we've been waiting for. I'm tired of

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Speaker 10: fashion being political and one sided.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's crazy not to have Milania on the cover

746
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Speaker 2: of Vogue when you consider that every other first lady

747
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Speaker 2: in recent history has been that even put Kamala on there,

748
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Speaker 2: that put Hillary there, Jill I think, had a couple

749
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Speaker 2: of covers, and you don't put an absolute fashion icon

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Speaker 2: on there. Give me a break. Now, let's talk about

751
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Speaker 2: Jason Kelsey, the retired NFL grade. He's triggered a social

752
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Speaker 2: media firestorm after he posted this on July fourth. He said, man,

753
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Speaker 2: I love the fourth one of the great days. We

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Speaker 2: all can set aside our differences in this country and

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Speaker 2: enjoy the one thing we all share in common, that

756
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Speaker 2: we are American. Cheers to you, oh beautiful America. Kinsey,

757
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Speaker 2: who could possibly have a problem with that?

758
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Speaker 10: Lunatics over the Big Beautiful Bill.

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Speaker 11: I mean, get a life.

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Speaker 10: These people are in his comments just I rate over

761
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Speaker 10: the Big Beautiful Bill. I mean, go spend a weekend

762
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Speaker 10: in Palestine, you weirdos. I think the only thing bigger

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Speaker 10: and more beautiful than Jason Kelsey is patriotism. So no,

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Speaker 10: I can't relate to anybody having a meltdown over somebody

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Speaker 10: saying a man, I sure am proud of my country.

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Speaker 2: Well, it happens when you panned it to the left.

767
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Speaker 2: When you've got a leftist following, particularly on social media,

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Speaker 2: and you put anything like that up that's mildly even patriotic,

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Speaker 2: they're going to turn on you because they're not patriotic.

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Speaker 2: They hate the country they live in. Let's face facts. Now,

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Speaker 2: Katie Perry and Orlando Bloom, they've officially confirmed the decision

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Speaker 2: to end their marriage months of speculation. We've talked about

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Speaker 2: it on this program, Kinzia. Have they given much of

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Speaker 2: an insight to why they're ending their marriage.

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't know if you believe this, but I

776
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Speaker 10: absolutely do. There are, of course, they are, the rumors

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Speaker 10: that Katie's professional failures have really been detrimental to her state.

778
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Speaker 10: But There are also rumors that there was an argument

779
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Speaker 10: about Katie going to space and that Orlando was critical

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Speaker 10: of it. I thought it was ridiculous, and she is

781
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Speaker 10: taking this thing so seriously. So, you know what, breakups

782
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 10: are never easy, especially in the public eye. And I

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Speaker 10: hope they're both surrounded by love and healing right now.

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Speaker 10: But Elon Musk is still available if Katie would like

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Speaker 10: to continue visiting space.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think her politics would mix with Elons.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, she should have listened to Orlando,

788
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Speaker 2: because that was very good advice. It wasn't that she

789
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Speaker 2: went up to space. It was the carry on and

790
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Speaker 2: the insanity that followed afterwards, the treating it like it

791
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Speaker 2: was going to be some well changing event, something that

792
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Speaker 2: was going to, I don't know, bring enlightenment and peace

793
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Speaker 2: to the world. And she thought she was an astronaut.

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Speaker 2: She floated around for about ten seconds. I mean, give

795
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Speaker 2: me a break now. Veteran actor Michael Douglas has said

796
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Speaker 2: that he has no intention of returning to the profession,

797
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Speaker 2: and he's also said that the US idealism does not

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Speaker 2: exist now and that people are going into politics to

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Speaker 2: make money. Well, I suggest that's been happening for decades.

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Speaker 2: What's he referring to? Meking's easy and these comments targeted

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Speaker 2: at a particular politician.

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Speaker 10: I like the second you said that, I immediately thought

803
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Speaker 10: the Biden family. But I do think that they're targeted

804
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Speaker 10: towards Trump's family. But you but look at the amount

805
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 10: of money. Yeah, and Nancy Pelosi, Like Nancy Pelosi is

806
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Speaker 10: more rich than I can ever imagine. She probably could

807
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Speaker 10: buy Ken Kendall Jenner's handbag. But I think he's talking

808
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 10: about Trump because there are jokes about Trump perfume and

809
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Speaker 10: Trump Bibles, and you do hear that a lot about that,

810
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Speaker 10: a lot in Hollywood Trump Stakes at one point. So

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Speaker 10: I think he's being critical of our current president.

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Speaker 2: Ah, so ridiculous. I mean, the man was a billionaire.

813
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Speaker 2: Of course, he's got a billion different businesses as well,

814
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Speaker 2: but he went out of the presidency after that first

815
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Speaker 2: turn with less money than he went in, whilst every

816
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: other president's wealth exploded. And we have so many long

817
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: term politicians who've never have done really anything else other

818
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: than be politicians who have got enormous riches, which is

819
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Speaker 2: inexplicable in a way, Kinsey, before you go Kelly Clarkson

820
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Speaker 2: has had to abruptly postpone the start of her last

821
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Speaker 2: Vegas residency because she's lost her voice. When's she going

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Speaker 2: to be back on stage?

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Speaker 10: I mean, I'm not sure, but Radar Online is reporting

824
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Speaker 10: that this could potentially be a bigger issue. You know,

825
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Speaker 10: there are rumors that she wants to leave her very

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Speaker 10: successful daytime talk show right now. The talk is is

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Speaker 10: that this is potentially a meltdown and that she could

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Speaker 10: leave her show. And I mean, I don't know. I

829
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Speaker 10: don't know what the truth is why this was postponed,

830
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Speaker 10: if it was her voice or what. But there are

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Speaker 10: concerns for her and kind of how ungrateful she's been

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Speaker 10: about the success of the show.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. We'll keep an eye on that one, kin Ziskophiel,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. And that's all

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Speaker 2: the time I've got tonight. I'll see you at tomorrow

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Speaker 2: night at eleven. I've got Douglas Murray with me. Don't

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Speaker 2: want to miss that. Up next, it's Newsnight.