1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 1: It fits in with Kate Bookie podcast. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: Hello, it's Kate here. I'm here with Lizzie and Jess 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: once again. We are up to less than five today 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: of the Educate Podcast and we are going to delve deep, 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: or at least Lizzie is in to some theories around 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: the brand new album The Tortured Poets Department. 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 3: Ten points for not saying society, will we do that? 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: Heard that a few times? 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: It rolls off the tongue, doesn't it. And before we 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: get into it, I do have to introduce a bit 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: of a special guest into the studio who we have 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: instructed must sit quietly through the first bit and then 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: you can offer his theory at the end. Please welcome 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: Michael Whitley. 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, sorry about that, guys. 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 4: It feels like an omobi part of this podcast because 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 4: this podcast has gone from thanks to strength and there 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: are so many tailors with fans in the building that 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: have said, can I go on Educate Podcast? And I 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 4: said not before I do. That's right, honored to be 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 4: here with you three turns. Is that what FITZI calls you? 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor nerds. That's unfortunately, could it be more thrilled that. 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 4: You're hear you too, Lizzie, and you've taken my seat 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: and my headphones, and it's an honor that you are wearing. 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: And no doubt you listened to the last episode because 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: we did rip you for about three minutes straight. 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 4: I wait too often before I tell to you about 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 4: that went hard? 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: Ok Okay, thank you for speaking. Now, no more speaking. 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: That's enough for now. What about the no no, no, 31 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: no no no. I actually I want to get to 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: what you have to talk about. Yeah, brand new album 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: April nineteen, go. 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 5: Yes, Okay, Jess. Obviously last week showed us some really 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 5: amazing theories. But as we know, we literally finished recording 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 5: the episode and we left, and then she dropped the 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 5: entire track list. If you speak during when I'm speaking, seriously, 38 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 5: it's gonna it's not gonna be good for you. 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: I was part of I was to be on last 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: week's episode, but because the album dropped, I got the boots. 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: I can relate to you. So what I'm doing is 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: engaging in conversation as a Taylor Swift friendly fan. 43 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: This is what my life is like every every morning, 44 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Like yeah. 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you welcome to the studio. 46 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 2: Do what I have to do in the studio every day. 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 2: Just pretend he's not here. 48 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Just pretend he's not action. 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: Okay, So now we actually can dive in a little 50 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: bit deeper now that we have the track list. 51 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: Yes, and more. 52 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: Theories have come out, which is really exciting. The Swifties 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: have done their hard work. So the first thing I 54 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 5: want to go through is something called the Lover House, 55 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 5: which you actually need to know for the eras tour, 56 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 5: which is, you know, good timing and Jess is going 57 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 5: to get it up on the screen so you can 58 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 5: see it. 59 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: You're testing me. The Lover House. 60 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 5: Basically that came to fruition in the Lover music video 61 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 5: during the Lover era and as you can see it 62 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 5: on your screens now, each sort of room and section 63 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 5: of the house represents a different. 64 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Era of her work. 65 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 5: So obviously Pink is Lover black, reputation red red with 66 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 5: want to finish off the rest of the years for us. 67 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: You're a friendly fan of was such a big song, 68 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: wasn't it? 69 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: Lover Lover Lover favorite version was the Sewn Mendes collab 70 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: on Lover. 71 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: Oh No. I said, Sean, get off that track as 72 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: you should. As you should say, I said stick to 73 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 4: your own lane, Sean, you take it from here. 74 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: I'm confused. Wasn't lover a while ago? Though? If you're 75 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: saying she has a house, this means there's no reputation room. 76 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: So the reputation room is up the top that's the attic. 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: So she yes. 78 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 5: She first brought it to light during the lover music video. 79 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 5: And what you'll notice is at the concert after the 80 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 5: countdown ends, when all the lights go down and everything's 81 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 5: getting very exciting, each room of the Lover House comes 82 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: across the screen, which sort of signifies the eras all 83 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: coming together for the beginning of the show. 84 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: This is before she hears. 85 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: Me. 86 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: You should have said spoiler. That's the spoiler alarms. Why no, 87 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: that's okay, even prepared. 88 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: Oh I know, I know. 89 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: At least now I will be able to watch it 90 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: and know what it represents. 91 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: That top room there, the black one. What did you say? 92 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 5: That was reputation whippers? 93 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: Because you need to be that looks like a casting 94 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: catch there, and you can make anywhere. 95 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm really loving you've been here. 96 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 5: It's the best part of my day, my life. 97 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 4: Your reputation. 98 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: Can I throw something in here? The Lover House was 99 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: obviously released in the lover era. We were yet to 100 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: get the next few albums, which were folklore and evermore 101 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: having a little look here, can you see the stairs 102 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: leading up to the attic that's got an orange tinge 103 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: and then the stairs below that have a bit of 104 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 3: a black and white folklore tinge? 105 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: So whatever one focused on them at that point, we. 106 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: Don't know what they were. 107 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 3: And then we got the next two albums they made sense, 108 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: which I think is what Lizzie is going to talk 109 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: us through with his brand new album. 110 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 4: Met which ties into that orange. 111 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I actually know I actually have to say something now. 112 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: You need to be quiet. 113 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: You're really annoying. 114 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 5: Has anyone ever told you that? 115 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: All right? It's a safe spo, isn't it? Just not 116 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: for you idiots? 117 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: All right? 118 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Okay? 119 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 5: So then halfway during the ears to her last year, 120 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 5: she started bringing up this graphic in the nineteen eighty 121 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 5: nine era set, which no one really still knows why 122 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 5: she did it, of the lover House burning down. So 123 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 5: everybody was like, what is going on? 124 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: Why she walked down? 125 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: Why is she burning down the lover House? You know, 126 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: no one could really put two and two together until 127 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 5: she announced the Tortured Poets Department, and now fans think 128 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 5: they have figured out why it's burning down. So the 129 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: reason that everyone's come up with is so the Tortured 130 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 5: Poets Department doesn't fit into the lover House. There's no 131 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 5: room for it that's ever been shown in the graphics 132 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 5: or the video clips. There's no color that signifies it. 133 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 5: And so the theory is that The Tortured Poets Department 134 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 5: is officially the album that burns down the lover House 135 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 5: and has burned down Taylor herself as she knows it. 136 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 5: She's even she finished the last ten eras with Midnights, 137 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 5: where she's even holding a lighter on the front cover 138 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 5: to eave to burn to signify this, and a song 139 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 5: from Midnight's Dear Reader states, burn all the files, desert 140 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: all your past lives. 141 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: So she's burning down the files inside the lover House. 142 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 5: This album, the ten Ears, and the experience of dating 143 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 5: Joe has been so devastating that she's had to set 144 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 5: fire to everything she knows about herself, herself as a 145 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 5: person to be able to move on, start a new rebirth, 146 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. 147 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: Big renovation, big renovation that's pretty good well, she's done 148 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 4: a big renovation. 149 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: You mean big revelation, big revelation. 150 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: Now, I was thinking that could be an underground car 151 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 4: park to this house, which that's actually a good point. 152 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: We're a possible granny float out the bat or a 153 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 4: reading nook reading corner. 154 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, can I say Lizzie as well? 155 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: I saw some comments online saying that potentially as well, 156 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: she's moving away from this whole era where she has 157 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: to rebrand herself for each album and instead everything she 158 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: releases from now on is just a body of work. 159 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: But she doesn't have to kind of fundamentally change who 160 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: she is country pop, synth pop, broke folk. 161 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 2: Whatever happening on that day. 162 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, she goes to be who she is, which is 163 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: maybe letting us in a little bit more. 164 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: I like that theory. What else is you do? 165 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: So can I just ask one quick question then? So, 166 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: what you're saying is that when she did the Taylor's 167 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: version of nineteen eighty nine, when she has been doing 168 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: her nineteen eighty nine sets for the last little while, 169 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: perhaps over the last two years. She has said that 170 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: this new album has been her baby and her secret 171 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: for the last two years. So she's known as a 172 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: new album coming. She's knowing that it's like the rebirthing 173 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: of something, and that's why she's been able to reflect 174 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: that in. 175 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: The Lover's House. 176 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, lover no plural. That's very deep, Kate. That's a 177 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: very deep yeah, exactly. 178 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: She seems to plan everything. She's the most organized woman. 179 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 180 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: I'd love to go on a holiday with her because 181 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: I think the itinery would be down at the minute, 182 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: the snack bag would always. 183 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: Be for Were they seventeen guys? Oh? Sorry, they come 184 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: with us? 185 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: That's a securi And who's that yelling big renovation? Oh 186 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: of course, I'm trying to slay Kate. That's in her 187 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: in three months time. That's her ex boyfriend. You're listening to. 188 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, whipper. 189 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 5: Moving on to the next point so we can keep 190 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 5: it going, because a lot to get through. 191 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. 192 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: So. 193 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 5: The release date is actually the release date is actually 194 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 5: a theory in itself. The date itself that she's releasing 195 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 5: the album is really important. So the release date, I'm 196 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 5: just going to call it TPD great is April nineteenth, 197 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. 198 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: Why is this significant? You ask? I will tell you. 199 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 5: On April nineteenth, in twenty twenty three, there was an 200 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 5: infamous dinner that took place between Taylor Blake, Lively, Ryan Reynolds, 201 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 5: GG Hitded, Hugh Jackman, et cetera. That was the night 202 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 5: that all her friends, her squad as we don't call 203 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 5: it anymore, but her squad all unfollowed Joe Orwyn on Instagram. 204 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 5: So for her to release this album that is going 205 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 5: to be it's suggested heavily that it's about Joe, that 206 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 5: it's going to be released a year to the date 207 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 5: that they all unfollowed him and essentially probably found out 208 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 5: what he did to cause her so much heartbreak. Going 209 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 5: on from that, going a little bit deeper, getting a 210 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: little bit more crazy about the release date. There's a 211 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 5: song on the album called so Long London, which if 212 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: that's not about Joe, I don't know what is Joe's 213 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 5: British They lived in London together during Lockdown. 214 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: You know, on a surface level, you. 215 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 5: Can determine that this album and that song is going 216 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 5: to be about Joe. However, if we then go back 217 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 5: to look at the date that the album is being released, 218 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 5: which is the nineteenth of April, the nineteenth of April 219 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: seventeen seventy five was actually the American. 220 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: We stay out of it, otherwise I'm going to have 221 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: to ask you to leave this study. 222 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 5: Atimet Cot was the date of the American Revolution, which 223 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 5: was when America gained independence from the United Kingdom. 224 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Oh, I like that? Are we following with with? 225 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? 226 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 5: And she's American and he's British whipper. 227 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: That's fish, she's spying. 228 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: For you shedding Joe, Yeah, one hundred, it's not Joe Jonas. 229 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: It's so interesting to hear all these funny theories that 230 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 4: get around and Lizzie, You've obviously collected some great detail there, 231 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: and we really appreciate the research you've done for the podcast. 232 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 4: But being the only person in the room that's met 233 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: her once twice, three times and hung out with their backstage, 234 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: I suppose it feels weird to hear you talk about 235 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: someone that I know better than you. 236 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: So do you know what? 237 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 3: I was wondering how long it would take for him 238 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: to drop out the playing, not that I'm going to 239 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: play for the listeners. 240 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: I thought this was a celebration of Taylor Swift. 241 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: No, this is a celebration of being educated. 242 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: Right, Well, we're all earning because I know a little 243 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: bit about Taylor Swift having it's we three or four. 244 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 3: Times now so cool, I mean, great, huge congrats over 245 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: there for you. I do love the thought of Taylor 246 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: working through these dates going oh, maybe I should release 247 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: it on this and then asking someone to grab her 248 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: a calendar from seventeen seventy five just to double check. 249 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: But I do think, I mean, I. 250 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 5: Do think it would have crossed her mind about the 251 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 5: American Revolution. 252 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: I really do think that. 253 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 5: The other important thing to note about the song So Long, 254 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: So Long London is that it's track five, and track 255 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 5: fives on all of her albums are notably the most devastating, vulnerable, emotional, 256 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 5: and raw. So some of the other track fives from 257 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 5: other albums are all too well, You're on your own, kid, 258 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: my tears, ricochet. 259 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: So we know that this song is going to be 260 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: heart Brexit as a song title, just. 261 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 4: As a movement Farewell London, So Long London, So Long London. 262 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if Brexit has a great ring to it. 263 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 4: No, that's the name, but that might be what the 264 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: song's about. 265 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: Do you know what we haven't considered it. We consider 266 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: all other unhinged theories. But I'm happy if you guys 267 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: are to put that one to bed right now. 268 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: Any ideas, any other any of the thoughts you have, 269 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: I need to say this, jot them down. We'll get 270 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: to them at the end. 271 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you with But so the next theory. There's 272 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: a track on the album called but Daddy, I Love Him. 273 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 5: And as you'll notice my shirt today, what you say 274 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 5: with daddy I love him? 275 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: But Daddy, I love him? I knew it would be 276 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: something Taylor tell me what's happening. 277 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 5: So what's happening here is that everybody thinks that this 278 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: track relates back to The Little Mermaid. As we all know, 279 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 5: there's the famous line in the movie where she says 280 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 5: to her father, King Triton, but Daddy, I love him 281 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 5: about Prince Eric because. 282 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: She wants to be with him. He's a human, all 283 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. 284 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 5: It's also worth mentioning that The Little Mermaid was released 285 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty nine, but that's just a same My god, what. 286 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 4: I watched it thirteen times yesterday. 287 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: Thank you again. 288 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 5: But the subtext of the Little Mermaid is not lost 289 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 5: on Swifties. They're drawing parallels between Taylor and Ariel herself 290 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: about her losing her voice. As we know Ariel Ursula 291 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 5: steals her voice, Ariel loses her voice. Yeah to be 292 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: and then for her to be with Eric, she has 293 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: lost her voice, all those kinds of things. So obviously 294 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 5: we know that Taylor and Joe met when she was 295 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: in her feud with Kim and Kanye. When she retreated 296 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 5: from the public eye, she didn't really have a voice, 297 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 5: no one really saw her for two years. Many believe 298 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 5: that this song could be Taylor reflecting on her newfound 299 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 5: freedom after coming out of a six year relationship where 300 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 5: she felt trapped and without a voice. 301 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: One fan also noted that. 302 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 5: This isn't the first time that Taylor has appeared to 303 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 5: use a prison analogy or like a voiceless analogy, which 304 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: also relates to a song on the album called Fresh 305 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 5: Out the Slammer. So from her song ready for It, 306 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 5: she said he can be my jailor Burton to this Taylor, 307 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 5: So everybody thinks that this song is going to be 308 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 5: about how she felt voiceless trapped. There's also a lot 309 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 5: of theories going around that Joe actually asked her to 310 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 5: stop making music and to stop touring, and that the 311 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 5: eras tour was the deal breaker that led to them 312 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 5: breaking up. So when you think about all of that 313 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 5: in the context of it, yep, did you want to 314 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: share something? 315 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 4: What song? What album was. 316 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: Here we Go? 317 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: What album was Fresh in the slam from. 318 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: Sorry, Fresh out the Slammer? 319 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 5: What album? 320 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: So that's Fresh in the Slammer. 321 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: Is a bit of a different lover house and I 322 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: think that's the. 323 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 5: Oh God, the fit and with a with Kate Tea. 324 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: Podcast now Whip. 325 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: You're not just sitting here being a nicence for no reason. 326 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: You wanted to bring something to the table, talk us 327 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: through what is going on? 328 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: Well, you know, tell us we loves Australia and that's 329 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 4: been proven over and over again with several of her 330 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: tours that we celebrate down under here. What I didn't 331 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: realize till I heard one of her songs, which is 332 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: called out of the Woods? Are We out of the Woods? 333 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: Here? 334 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: Are We out of the Woods? Yeah? That one about 335 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 4: that is about l One. Now I don't know who 336 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: it's about. 337 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: That's about? 338 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: Actually it is it is about Harry Styles. 339 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I didn't know that she wrote that. He 340 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: wrote Watermelon Sugar. Hi, thank you for joining him. So anyway, 341 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 4: what I found fascinating. Jess, could you bring up a 342 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: little bit of Out of the Woods, the part that 343 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: I have an interest in. We all have that bit. 344 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: Oh oh, sorry, we can hear it. 345 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: Oh okay, so you can obviously hear the looping of 346 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: that sound. What I didn't realize until I heard that 347 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: song was that that part, oh, is actually from a 348 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: well known Aussie band from Melbourne called the Temper Trap. 349 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: So that song that they sing, which is called I 350 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: Need Your Love? You will hear this now, Jesse a loop? 351 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: All right, let me just see if I can. 352 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: The same do it together. So what we're hearing for 353 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: the very first time on a podcast which is meant 354 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: to educate everybody, we're actually learning that part of Taylor 355 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: Swift's music has been taken from the artist called Temper Trap. 356 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: Well, so taken, I think is a big word to 357 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: use here on the educate podcast where we love gift. 358 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: It was a gift, not taken, as you've been sampled. 359 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: Sampled is the correct word we use in the music industry. 360 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 4: But this is more for the people listening. 361 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 5: Okay, so this is really what you brought to the 362 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 5: podcast today. 363 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 4: Has anyone ever heard this before? And not. 364 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: Is this what you've been talking about in the office 365 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: for months or even in the studio? 366 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: What, Cadie, you haven't finished. Why don't we put the 367 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: Temper Trap in with Out of the Woods and see 368 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: if you can tell the difference we already played. I 369 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: don't know because it's kind of like it's all the same. 370 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: So when can I ask a question? 371 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: You're not listening? 372 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: Do you know what this proof? 373 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: Just because you know he's not listening to anything? 374 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: Voice, Lizzie. What I would ask you to do is 375 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: google Taylor Swift. You want me to do that the 376 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: temper Trap and you will find zero because it has 377 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 4: not been discovered until this point in time. 378 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: So could I ask a question? 379 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: Sure? 380 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Lizzie. Where's your question from? From Taylor Swift? 381 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: Mind? 382 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: Okay? So when was the Temper Trap song? Released? 383 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 4: A long time ago? 384 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 5: Was it released before out of the Woods because it 385 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 5: would have been so what year was that? 386 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: Oh? God? 387 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 5: I suggest you google it when you come when you 388 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 5: come to our podcast, you should probably you know, be 389 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 5: prepared with the information, have the facts to back it. 390 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: Can I actually say something in his defense? 391 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: Thank you want to. 392 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: This one? 393 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: But come on, we're thinking maybe you know because you 394 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 3: produced out of the Woods with Jack answer off, Maybe 395 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: that's it's too rare for her to have heard that 396 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: temper Trap song and to take essentially one thing without 397 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: it being a proper sample. How can I cast your 398 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: mind back to all too well? She does say the 399 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: line your sweet disposition, that's one of the lysts, and 400 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: that is the Temptap's biggest songs. 401 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: So do we have a potential case on. 402 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: The Taylor swift is a huge TEMPERA Tap fan. 403 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: This side at the table doesn't agree. 404 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: Needs Your Love was released in twenty twelve, okay, for 405 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: a long time before out of the Woods. 406 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: It was two years before, right. 407 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 4: So there you go. And I just think we should 408 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: make some sort of recognition in a moment where we 409 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 4: realize what we've underd what we're uncovered today on educate 410 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 4: we or you we? 411 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: And so was that all you wanted to say to it? 412 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 4: That's about it, guys, I'll get my cope. 413 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: But I think it's a good thought. 414 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 4: No one's ever no one's ever discovered this or put 415 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: it together. 416 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: Have you googled? 417 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? I have googled. O Kate, it's nowhere. 418 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: Can I say one thing in his defense, just googled 419 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 3: the song needs You Love the temper Trap. A music 420 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 3: video to accompany the release of Needs Your Love was 421 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: released on YouTube Wait for It on the thirteenth of 422 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 3: April twenty twelve. The length of it three minutes and 423 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: forty eight seconds hang on a minute. 424 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: The video parodies the movie The Karate Kid. 425 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: Taylor has the song You're on your own kid flawless. 426 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: So pretty much he's an idiot, is what I'm saying. 427 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: Oh good, I was thinking. I wasn't keeping on. 428 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: Did you like the build up? 429 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: Well done, whipper. We had no idea of the connection there. 430 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: But once again I want to thank Taylor Swift for 431 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 4: embracing us the music. Okay, let's not wrap party back 432 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: at my place. 433 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 2: We're not going in the spa again again. No, I 434 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: thank you on behalf, thank you. 435 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 3: Congratulations, Thank you for the opportunity to share. 436 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: Ed you whip Yeah, Edu, Kate, ed you, Lizzie, ed you, Jeszy. 437 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: Can we just stop down for a minute and say 438 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: that the concert, her being in the country is just 439 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: around the corner. She's got that little Super Bowl thing 440 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: out of the way. 441 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, her boyfriend's little football game. 442 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: I know when will she be on the plane. Surely 443 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: it's in the next shot. 444 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: She's be on a plane now because Melbourne is in 445 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 3: like two to three days depending when you listen to this, 446 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: and they would. 447 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: Be all into rehearsals. 448 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: I've seen a video from the MCG they've pulled up 449 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: the grass to put down the cover for the seats. 450 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 4: And every Jay Dog. Didn't it concern you that she 451 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 4: was out till five am. 452 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: A little bit? But I don't actually mind because we're 453 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: going to the Sydney shops. 454 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 4: Hey, what night are you guys going? I'm the Saturday night. 455 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: We're going to the Saturday night. I'm going Friday and Saturday. 456 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 4: Wow, ditto? 457 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 2: Cool, Thanks for coming with her. 458 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: You can head over to Nova Taylor's version. He's on 459 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 3: the Nova Player. It's a twenty four to seven Taylor 460 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: sift station that you could probably do a little shift 461 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: on there and pick your own songs if you like. 462 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: Why not, you know what you couldn't Why don't you 463 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: call them and tease into our podcast and say that 464 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: you've got a great theater. 465 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: This afternoon, so you just have to give me a bite. 466 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: Hey, you guys, swip Dog here having second thought. 467 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: Okay, what's next week? Have we got another next week? 468 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: She would have appeared in Melbourne and Sydney will be 469 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: around the corner next week. 470 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: Is everything you need to know if you're going to this. 471 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 5: We're going to last minute dash of what to wear, 472 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 5: what secret song you want it to be? What color body? 473 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 5: So you think she's gonna wear? It's going to be 474 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 5: all the final predictions. 475 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: Do you think she's going to perform something from the 476 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: new album or give us a bit of a tease? 477 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: No, we spoke about this. 478 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: We don't think so because everyone watches from other countries 479 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: the show on a like on a live stream. 480 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: For TikTok, she's not gonna let people hear her new 481 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: song for the first time through a grainy TikTok. 482 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 4: Life Trap will get up and perform with her. 483 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: All right, we've had it. 484 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 4: We'll see you next week on Edge. 485 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: Ok okay, maybe just the three with and Now that 486 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: you finished listening to our podcast, if you want some more, 487 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: make sure you head over to Nova Taylor's version. 488 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: Can you Believe That? 489 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: Twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, non stop. 490 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: Taylor and Actu dream some of the best bits of 491 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: the pod on the station as well, so you will 492 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: hear our beautiful little voices there at some point. 493 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: Oh what a bonus sits in. 494 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast walk great 495 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: shows like this. 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