WEBVTT - Are Dave And Jamie Having A Baby... And Is He Really A "Good Guy"?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome back to the Maths Funny Podcast with

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<v Speaker 1>me Joshua Fox. Before we jump straight into today's big

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<v Speaker 1>six foot seven to be exact subject, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say thank you for all the love on the

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<v Speaker 1>first episode of my investigation. I started this podcast seven

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago now with no objective other than to see, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to enjoy the process of making a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's actually been so much fun and like most

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<v Speaker 1>things that discover that I enjoy in life, I have

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<v Speaker 1>quickly become fixated on this and have since all had

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<v Speaker 1>it to consume every fiber of my being. For a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more background context as well, just to be

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<v Speaker 1>fully honest with you, because I have seen some comments

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<v Speaker 1>being like, why is he doing a podcast now? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is he trying to make himself a thing? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to make myself a thing in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just doing something I enjoy. And what you guys

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't realize is, in all my years of having

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<v Speaker 1>this Maths Funny page, it's never it's still not my

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<v Speaker 1>source of income. Like I still have a day job,

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<v Speaker 1>but all my other previous day jobs have been for

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<v Speaker 1>large media organizations like publications, radio stations, whatever. And because

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<v Speaker 1>I've had those jobs, I've also been kind of somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>restricted in what I can and can't say. As all

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<v Speaker 1>these big organizations I've previously worked for, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>intertwined with Channel nine commercially, and basically every media company

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever worked for is kind of competing for Nine's

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<v Speaker 1>multi million dollar ad spends. So even though bosses had

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<v Speaker 1>previously been like, yeah, do you ma funny thing that's fun,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, they like the intel I can provide,

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<v Speaker 1>which can be used for content in whatever capacity in

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<v Speaker 1>my job is, I've also had this little voice in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of my head like, Okay, you can't rock

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<v Speaker 1>the boat too much, Josh. So that's why I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done a podcast. Also, I've just never wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to until now, and I think that's also because of

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<v Speaker 1>my point in my life where I feel a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more confident and comfortable using my own voice, and as

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<v Speaker 1>much fun as I'm having with the podcast and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having a laugh there, I also feel passionate about what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing with the series, about calling for changes to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>because this show will not survive if things do not

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<v Speaker 1>change anyway, and moving on now to more exciting things,

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<v Speaker 1>because that, in all honesty bores me having to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that and defend my career. But I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a bit more context and be fully

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<v Speaker 1>transparent with you, because the one thing I don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>wish to do on this podcast is lie. And speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of lying, Dave and Jamie and the baby they're having

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<v Speaker 1>a love of you guys noticed last week Dave and

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie were on the cover of Woman's Day. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of them kissing and the headline read Dave

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<v Speaker 1>and Jamie Exclusive, We're having a baby. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>had so many messages since then saying, Josh, is it true?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me it's true, and I'm afraid to say it's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. Before even in opening up the magazine to

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<v Speaker 1>read the interview and find the context of that, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was completely fake. And you know how because

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<v Speaker 1>I used to work at a magazine like this and

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<v Speaker 1>they do it every single year. What basically happens is

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<v Speaker 1>the editors will sit around on a Monday and go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who are people loving and who were people buy a

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<v Speaker 1>magazine to read about? And the answer to that this

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<v Speaker 1>year is Dave and Jamie, and then they'll all go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how can we move their story along to such a

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<v Speaker 1>new extreme that any fan will be compelled to buy

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<v Speaker 1>the magazine when they see it on the shelf and

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<v Speaker 1>fucking woollies or coals, which then led them to the

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<v Speaker 1>pregnancy headline. And now, if you're wondering, well, how the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck can they get away with doing a headline like

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<v Speaker 1>that when no one's having a baby, It's quite funny

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<v Speaker 1>because they do the same method every year. They'll basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, schedule an interview via Channel nine with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>both of them together or one of them, and during

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<v Speaker 1>the interview, the journalists will be like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are such a hot copy, like you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>the cutest kids one day? Do you reckon you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>babies one day? And then you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>people will respond like, oh my god, yeah, i'd love

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<v Speaker 1>kids full stop, and then that single quote would then

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<v Speaker 1>lead to a headline like we're having a baby, when no,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. And the only reason they were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>babies is because you brought it up, which is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what happened here. Because if anyone actually bought Woman's Day

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<v Speaker 1>last week, and read the full interview. In it, you

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<v Speaker 1>will see Jamie was asked, hey, do you want kids

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<v Speaker 1>one day? And she's quoted then respect saying yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely want kids. Sam me up for that minivan full stop.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it. So, no, she's not pregnant. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>having a baby now as suggested. Could they one day

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<v Speaker 1>have a baby in the future potentially? Are they having

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<v Speaker 1>one now? No? And you know it's funny if you

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<v Speaker 1>go through the archives of like Australian magazines over the

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<v Speaker 1>last few years, it's the same every season. Like even

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<v Speaker 1>going back to a NW magazine in February twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>which have just pulled out. On the cover, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy Jewell and Dean Wells and there stood hugging and

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<v Speaker 1>the headline reads We're having a baby. Then you skim

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<v Speaker 1>through the chat and here's the quote from Tracy, who

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<v Speaker 1>already had a daughter before doing math. She said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved being pregnant the first time and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to experience it again. I definitely do want another

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<v Speaker 1>child one day, full stop. And you know the journalist

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy was speaking to back then who got those quotes

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<v Speaker 1>from her me, don't don't dune. That was my first

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<v Speaker 1>year in Australia when I was working at a magazin

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<v Speaker 1>for six months as a backpacker, and I was basically

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<v Speaker 1>told before doing that interview via Channel nine, hey, let's

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<v Speaker 1>try to get like a baby angle, like a pregnancy one.

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<v Speaker 1>So ask her about kids, ask her if she liked

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<v Speaker 1>being pregnant, and you know, we'll just fucking fudge something together.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what was done. And I only was part

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<v Speaker 1>of that for that one season in twenty nineteen, but

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<v Speaker 1>like it's the same every year in the matter who's

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<v Speaker 1>working there. Even last year there was one in New

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<v Speaker 1>Idea with Lucinda Light and the headline was like Lucinder's

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<v Speaker 1>baby announcement. Then you click here and the announcement is

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<v Speaker 1>her mate just had a kid and she met the baby. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I could literally talk for hours about this stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>how magazines and the media and all that work, but

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<v Speaker 1>I won't because there's more Dave stuff to unpack. But

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<v Speaker 1>late last year I did actually release a book called

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<v Speaker 1>What You Into, Sex, Sadness and Celebrity Scandals, which was

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<v Speaker 1>mostly about mental health and gay culture. Following the breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>of my own big gay marriage but there's actually so

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<v Speaker 1>much in there about my career in media in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>and the UK, with kind of a lot of stories

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<v Speaker 1>about that baby one and how things at the work.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry for the shameless plug there, but hey, I have

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<v Speaker 1>got bills to pay. But I do actually think some

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<v Speaker 1>of you may enjoy reading that. Sticking with the subject

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<v Speaker 1>of questionable articles though, this morning, this one doing the

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<v Speaker 1>rounds titled Dave Exposed with a subhead that goes enough

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<v Speaker 1>of this nice guy narrative. Then when you read through

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<v Speaker 1>the article, they've basically spoken to an unnamed friend of

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<v Speaker 1>Dave's ex fiance because he was engaged a year or

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<v Speaker 1>two before doing maths, and that unnamed friend claims that

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<v Speaker 1>after Dave and his ex ended their engagement, he applied

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<v Speaker 1>to be on f Boy Island. And they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>suggest this as if it's this huge negative and Dave

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<v Speaker 1>exposed the real Dave enough of this nice guy narrative,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's personally a bit of a stretch

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting because like within a few months of his relationship

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<v Speaker 1>and that he wanted to do a show, is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this big telling sign of his character? But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, fuck, how many of us have gone through

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<v Speaker 1>breakups and done something to an extreme just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>move on. The article then moves on to say that

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<v Speaker 1>although Dave didn't get onto F Boy Island, production company

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<v Speaker 1>Animal Shine Australia and I quote saw something in him

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<v Speaker 1>and put him un married at first site instead. And

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<v Speaker 1>now the funny thing here is F Boy Island is

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<v Speaker 1>actually produced by Warner Brothers for Binge, whereas married at

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<v Speaker 1>first sit it's produced by Animal Shine for nine. An

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<v Speaker 1>Animal have some kind of partnership with Stan which Nine own.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't understand how they've come to the conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>that him applying for F Boy Island has someone led

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<v Speaker 1>to him being put on married at first sight. It'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like me applying for a job in woolfs but

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<v Speaker 1>them saying to me, actually, Josh, we're gonna put you

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<v Speaker 1>in colds instead. It makes no sense. This isn't me

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<v Speaker 1>defending Dave necessarily either. It's more just me putting some

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<v Speaker 1>context out there around the media and how stuff works.

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<v Speaker 1>Because something else that happens in the media world is

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<v Speaker 1>the second is like a sniff of a plot twist

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<v Speaker 1>or sign of troubles. Journalists will jump on that to

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<v Speaker 1>capitalize from it, Like last night we saw Dave portrayed

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<v Speaker 1>slightly differently to usual, as he didn't say he loved

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie back, and some fans are a bit like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a bit weird. That was a bit awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>And now suddenly the next day these articles like tearing

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<v Speaker 1>him down and saying Dave exposed and trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>he's a fraud, he's a fake or whatever. And then

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<v Speaker 1>in another magazine today there's another story that's suggesting Davis

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<v Speaker 1>now with Veronica and Jamie's heartbroken, and that whole story

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<v Speaker 1>comes off the fact they got paired together for this

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<v Speaker 1>couple swap tasks this week. But then the magazine could

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<v Speaker 1>also have suggested, hey, he's Jamie now with Adrian because

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<v Speaker 1>they were paired together, or is the phena we're Paul

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<v Speaker 1>because they were paired together, like everyone had to swap partners.

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<v Speaker 1>But New Idea only chose to run a thing on

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<v Speaker 1>Dave and Veronica. And you know why that is they

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<v Speaker 1>obtained one single pap shot of Dave and Veronica film

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<v Speaker 1>in this week's episodes where they were laughing on the

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<v Speaker 1>street together. So they've took that single picture, they've put

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<v Speaker 1>it on the cover and then they've fudged some like

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<v Speaker 1>source quotes to speculate does this mean you know, Dave

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<v Speaker 1>leaves Jamie for Veronica, Jamie's heartbroke and all this, and like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. It just means you wanted a story. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I could talk for hours and hours and hours about

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, but I will not bore you. I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>the point of this episode was to say, no, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no baby, Dave's not now with Veronica. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>do see headlines or articles that you're a bit so like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bit weird, that's a bit like out of

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<v Speaker 1>the blue. Always try to think of the bigger picture

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<v Speaker 1>and question them when you read it. Question why is

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<v Speaker 1>this article out now? Is this playing into something bigger?

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<v Speaker 1>And when you read through it, don't read through it

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<v Speaker 1>blindly and just believe it. Question it again and try

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<v Speaker 1>to find the facts or is it all speculation and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no facts? Like if you read that new Idea

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<v Speaker 1>on today, you realize the whole basis of that story

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<v Speaker 1>which is on their cover, is just off the back

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<v Speaker 1>of this one single picture of two people stood next

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<v Speaker 1>to each other laughing on the street. All that being said, though,

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<v Speaker 1>this week, Dave could turn out to be a massive

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<v Speaker 1>dickhead for all I know. I've been so balls deep

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<v Speaker 1>in my investigation that my finger is off the pulse

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<v Speaker 1>little little bit. But for now I'm still team Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>just from what we've all seen play out. Have a

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<v Speaker 1>lovely day, guys,