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Speaker 1: Lawrence, tell me what's you know. Every couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: we'll get members in from the Victorian Police, a good

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Speaker 1: friend of the show.

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Speaker 2: Superintendent, Our friendly policeman.

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Speaker 1: Wayne cheese Man. We'd like to call him Cheesy.

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Speaker 2: Our friendly policeman Cheesy.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 2: Now, hang on a second.

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Speaker 4: There's been some drama in the Cheesy household on top

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Speaker 4: of If you remember the first time we met Cheesy,

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Speaker 4: he told us the story about thinking his car had

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Speaker 4: been stolen.

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Speaker 2: That's right, he called the police, even though he's a police.

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Speaker 1: Where was the car?

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Speaker 3: Cheesy?

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Speaker 5: It was in a side street, in the wide street

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Speaker 5: he was.

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Speaker 2: It was a false alarm. But Cheesy, what the hell's

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Speaker 2: happened to you?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 5: So last time I told you that my wife found

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Speaker 5: the car. This time she came home and she found

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Speaker 5: it male in our house.

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Speaker 2: Cheesey got robbed.

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Speaker 3: We were a victim of aggravated burglary.

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Speaker 2: Are you syrups everyone? Anyone?

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Speaker 5: That can happen to anyone? And that's my message. So

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Speaker 5: I just finished five weeks of leave and I was

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Speaker 5: first week back. I was on the phone on Thursday

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Speaker 5: morning at work and I had these miscalls a number

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Speaker 5: to the voicemail and they're both clearly upset. So my

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Speaker 5: daughter is doing year twelve, so she had a late start.

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Speaker 5: She had some spears in the morning. She's sound asleep

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Speaker 1: This is my biggest fear.

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Speaker 2: She's what time are we talking to you?

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Speaker 5: This is sort of nine thirty nine between the morning

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Speaker 6: In broad daylight.

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Speaker 5: So we had a number of trades outside our street

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Speaker 5: number of trades in floral vests. My wife takes my

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Speaker 5: middle boy to basketball training, so it's probably a forty

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Speaker 5: five to fifty minute round trip. She comes back, she

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Speaker 5: She does a U turn into the hallway. There's an

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Speaker 5: adult male carrying my son's sports bag full to the

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Speaker 5: brim and they're the confrontation in the hall.

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Speaker 3: Oh my okay, they were rattled, but they're okay. No

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Speaker 3: one was hurt, which is the main thing.

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Speaker 2: Cheesy. That guy's lucky you went home when that happened.

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Speaker 3: Just say something, you know, and I don't know if I.

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Speaker 2: Can say this, well, be careful you live on the radio.

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Speaker 5: In the days afterwards, because he was identified early and

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Speaker 5: I knew he was a local to my area. I

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Speaker 5: was going out in my car and I shouldn't say hunting,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, mate, I would be

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Speaker 1: so frustrated. Also, that is my biggest fear.

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Speaker 2: So he didn't get away with anything.

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Speaker 5: No, he got about fifty three thousand worth of stuff.

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Speaker 5: So my son's got a biggest, strange sports bag.

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Speaker 3: Just filled with cash. So they just my mom passed away.

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Speaker 3: There was some jewelry.

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Speaker 2: He took the jewelry, he took everything.

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Speaker 5: So my wife back in the day when VERASARTI opened

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Speaker 3: Of the original ogs.

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Speaker 5: So all the girls would get, you know, when the

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Speaker 5: sales were on, they get all their vintage bag and

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Speaker 5: it's an our vintage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a whole lot of bags. When watches, when w.

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Speaker 4: Because what advice do you give to someone if you

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Speaker 4: find an intruder in your house, You better just to

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Speaker 4: let them go, right, you know, Yes.

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Speaker 5: But my wife being my wife, and you can imagine

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Speaker 5: she's in fronting him. How she treats me, But.

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Speaker 3: She's got fear. So there was a wrestle over the

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Speaker 2: Bag, but he got my bags.

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Speaker 5: He then he then ran out the back door. We

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like surely like you be going your

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Speaker 1: professional opinion, but just let him go.

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Speaker 3: Let them go.

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Speaker 1: It's not worth it.

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Speaker 3: We have insurance.

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Speaker 5: Let them go. You don't know if they're armed. You

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Speaker 5: don't want the confrontation. That would be my professional advice.

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Speaker 1: I find terrifying. That's nine thirty in the morning, do

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? We will just think just time.

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Speaker 6: So your wife's okay.

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Speaker 3: She rattled for a few but she's good.

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Speaker 6: And did she get the such a handbags?

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Speaker 1: But no, so you don't have to go out.

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Speaker 5: So when he was in when he was interviewed, he

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Speaker 5: all the property's gone, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But it was all the grandmother's jewelry and everything.

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Speaker 5: It was a comedy because that's he's gone. He's you know,

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Speaker 5: he's on an electric scooter. So as he's got down

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Speaker 4: Such a handbags, she's getting away car five.

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Speaker 5: So as he's going down the street, he's dropped some

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Speaker 5: property which was from another burglary tract. Pants fell down

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Speaker 1: And so what do you do for what do you

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Speaker 5: Well, it's funny because my wife got clear vision of him.

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Speaker 5: And so the police who attended were who were fantastic,

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Speaker 5: probably three or four days later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a lasting effect though, like that, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my daughter was rattled.

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Speaker 2: I was having someone in your home.

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Speaker 4: But you know what it is like, can I just

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Speaker 5: My wife works from home, so we did have a

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Speaker 5: your or we still had someone home, so she normally

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Speaker 5: she locks those windows before all out. But it's a

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Speaker 5: clear message that you know, I should practice what I preach.

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Speaker 5: I say to community forms all the time. And I

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Speaker 5: But so many aggravator burglars coming through open doors or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what happened to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry to hear that.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm glad there.

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Speaker 2: I came glad to record him.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, look, we're doing probe the paper this

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Speaker 1: morning thirteen twenty four ten. If you have a question

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Speaker 1: for cheesy.

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Speaker 2: Or if you've seen the Versacci handbags.

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Speaker 1: I have a question regarding scooter riders. Actually we're going

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Speaker 1: to get to that on the other side of this,

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Speaker 1: but thirteen twenty four ten is our number. If you

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Speaker 1: have a questioned for cheesy. We are doing praved the

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Speaker 1: pop pos here on nov we are doing Praved the

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Speaker 1: Purpose Jason Lawrence tell me, what's you know? We ave

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Speaker 1: the Victorian Police. They do an outstanding job. We love

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Speaker 1: this guy as well. Good friend of the show, Superintendent

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Speaker 1: Wayne cheese Man Cheesy is in.

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Speaker 4: The house, a friendly police officer, Cheesy who we love

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Speaker 7: A bit of a police wrapped from overnight Cheese. There

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Speaker 7: was an incident concerning incident in Hawthorne East involving some

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Speaker 7: of your colleagues. A police car was rammed at a

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Speaker 7: seven to eleven. What do police know so far? Because

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Speaker 7: this is terrifying.

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Speaker 5: So it looks like the offenders car. It had clone

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Speaker 2: That fake plate.

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Speaker 5: They're like fake plates for what just yeah they're not

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Speaker 5: real plates, but you're cloned. So we've seen that very commonly.

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Speaker 5: So so the of number plates across you know, Victoria

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Speaker 1: What people have taken them off cars.

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Speaker 5: So what they'll do is they'll find a white Holden

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Speaker 5: new car for different crimes.

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Speaker 1: I imagine they're avoiding the personalized plates.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so it's very common.

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Speaker 5: So in this particular case, the police have identified possibly

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Speaker 5: bollards and stuff, and then the police come in. You know,

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Speaker 5: across something suspicious. The offenders car is then sort of

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Speaker 5: the officer can. No one's hurt, which is the main thing.

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Speaker 5: Offenders were arrested, is my understanding. But it is common that,

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Speaker 5: you know, especially these days, more and more offenders in

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Speaker 5: they don't care, Clint, there's so many people that don't

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Speaker 1: Do you guys carry the spikes in the back sometimes, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You had to stop cars driving.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got down a real YouTube rabbit hole watching that.

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Speaker 5: So we do have those and we conduct training, so

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Speaker 5: most members are at well trained in they're called vehicle

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Speaker 5: and mobilization devices. So there's a procedure of policy. But

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Speaker 5: you know, when cars are screaming down the road, he's

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Speaker 5: got to be safe, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because there's so many other cars on the road as well.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's right. Wow.

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Speaker 2: We we're glad to hear everyone's okay from that incident

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Speaker 2: this morning.

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Speaker 1: Gottlang Warren, Kimberly, I'm thirteen twenty four to ten. You're

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Speaker 1: on the air doing Probe the poper with Cheesy.

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Speaker 3: What's your question? Hi?

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Speaker 8: Everyone? My question is about the phone uses in the car.

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Speaker 8: So I know that we can't have the phone on

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Speaker 8: our labs like to look at it, but I was

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Speaker 8: wondering are we allowed to have it like on this

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Speaker 8: while you're driving or does that count as for us

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Speaker 8: as well?

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Speaker 5: So, so looking at phones it's a big distraction when

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Speaker 5: you're driving and we're really trying to work hard to

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Speaker 5: improve driver behavior. Kimberley, you now have to have it

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Speaker 5: sort of an eye level on one of those holders.

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Speaker 5: You're not allowed to have it in the dash like

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Speaker 5: like probably we all used to have it. It's now

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Speaker 5: got to be an eye level so that your eyes

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Speaker 5: are continually forwarding on the.

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Speaker 2: Road, continuously watching the road. That makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Driver.

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Speaker 6: So a friend of mine puts his in the cup holder.

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Speaker 2: No, No, you can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Can you let him know?

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Speaker 2: Could you let him know? Clint doesn't?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to get him on the phone now, Clint, No,

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Speaker 1: he's probably busy at work.

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Speaker 3: To pass it on.

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Speaker 2: You pass it on to your friend who might drive

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Speaker 2: a little Mercedes?

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Speaker 1: Patrick, Morning, Patrick, Come on, guys, what's your question for cheesy?

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Speaker 9: So, So, for instance, you see a cargo through a

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Speaker 9: red light and they get flashed by a camera, can

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Speaker 9: you then pull him over for to give them another

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Speaker 9: fine they've already got a fine from the red light camera.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: Patrick, We can certainly pull a car over whenever they're

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Speaker 5: whenever they're on the road. So we have a we

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Speaker 5: have a power to check sort of name and address

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Speaker 5: and license details. We wouldn't give you another ticket for

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Speaker 5: that particular offense. So you would get a ticket in

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Speaker 5: the mail for the red light camera. So so, no,

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Speaker 5: you wouldn't be issued two tickets for the same offense.

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Speaker 4: It's like if you get a parking fine. Leave it

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Speaker 4: on there, don't take it off because they're not going

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Speaker 4: to put another one on top.

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Speaker 1: You're asking for a friend as well.

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Speaker 2: Now I haven't a media other day.

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Speaker 6: Good for you, cheese.

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Speaker 7: Is it frowned upon to flash your lights to warn

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Speaker 7: people of a raidar or is it illegal?

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Speaker 5: So it used to be, you know, I know cases

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Speaker 5: then and then say you know you're hindering police. For me, really,

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Speaker 5: it's about just improving driver behavior. So if someone flashes

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Speaker 5: their lights to get people to slow down, it actually

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Speaker 5: it's actually a good thing because most people.

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Speaker 2: Will slow Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 4: I'll just getting around flashing our lights all the time

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Speaker 4: to run slow down on the roads.

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Speaker 2: Please. Are you a flash of Clint and a couple.

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Speaker 1: As a friend.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll let him know about the flashing ring.

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Speaker 1: What good morning?

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Speaker 9: Good morning.

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Speaker 8: I would like to know if you have ever had

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Speaker 8: to arrest the.

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Speaker 9: Family member or a friend for a more.

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Speaker 3: Serious crime, Rihanna and I haven't.

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Speaker 5: Actually no, I haven't had any friends or family members, luckily,

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Speaker 5: that that I know of.

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Speaker 2: What about any newsreaders.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully that will be awarded for Clint.

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Speaker 1: Just quickly, you got a new boss, Shane Patten, now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is such a shame.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I think we talked about last time. I worked with

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Speaker 5: is a really hard working, dedicated Victoria Police member. So

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Speaker 5: I was really sad that his career ended up that way.

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Speaker 5: I didn't think he deserved it, so personally it was

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Speaker 5: it was a really sad day for me, and I

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Speaker 5: think for the organization too, where you know, I've had

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Speaker 5: no confidence comes in in your leader, and then the

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Speaker 5: way that he left, which was obviously his decision, and

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Speaker 5: it probably would have been a little.

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Speaker 7: Bit un so a new sort of way of policing

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Speaker 7: with Rick Nugent no.

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Speaker 5: So Rick is very experienced. He will be a great

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Speaker 5: bit more unity. He is just like shaying and just

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Speaker 5: like Neil Patterson left, our deputy and our other deputy,

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Speaker 5: Ross Gunter, who's retired, they're all focused on the same

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Speaker 5: things they want to be in pre community safety there

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Speaker 5: for the organization. So Rick will be terrific.

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Speaker 4: Well, we think Victoria Police do a great job. So

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Speaker 4: good luck with a new leader. Stay safe out there,

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Speaker 4: Vic Paula, can't believe your house got rob Cheese.

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Speaker 1: On a more positive note, very big day in the

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Speaker 1: Cheese household today.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we've got a birthday in the chief. Your daughter

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Speaker 2: seventeen today.

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Speaker 5: Embarrassed dad's done this. No, and she did a terrific job.

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Speaker 5: So when mum was confronting the offender, Ummy already, you know,

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Speaker 5: call the police, and she put her bum up against

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Speaker 5: the door to lock it, and she got on the

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Speaker 5: phone and she was clear and Sid.

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Speaker 4: Kendrew's had a tough few weeks without breaking. But happy

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Speaker 4: birthday from all of us here at Nova.

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Speaker 1: We can't reveal it, but Cheese told us the present

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Speaker 1: off the air and it's a crack.

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 6: An overhad Kendrick. You can have an overhad too. We'll

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Speaker 6: give you that one.

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Speaker 1: Hey, she's good to say, you mate, good to see.

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Speaker 1: Stay safe out.

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Speaker 4: There, Jason Lauren Lauren wake up feeling good on over

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Speaker 4: one hundred.

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Speaker 9: Lauren on Socials