1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: Interesting article that was in The Australian recently. The headline 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: is the growing trend of retiring early and dying with zero. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: First of all, the timing to do that. I mean, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: it gets me down a little bit when you do 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: hear stories like that. But you know what, there if 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: it's your life, this is the thing. A lot of 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: people out there don't have children. What a lot of 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: people out there that don't want to pass anything down 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: to their children. But there are it seems to be 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: in Australia that there's a lot more people Kate that 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: are retiring early, doing the things that they want and 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: dying with nothing in the bank. 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. But I also think there's I was talking to 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: someone about this recently. I think some people are retiring 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: early against their will, getting sacked, kind of being made 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 3: to retire. 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Well the older people can't find work. Yeah, seeing fits 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: a lot of and I quite like this idea families 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: getting together and saying, okay, well in ten years time, 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: mom and dad, you're probably going to die, so we're 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: going to get your cash. So as a family, why 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: don't we spend that inheritance? Now? Why don't we with 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: whatever's coming do something together which is special for everybody 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: right here right now. 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: For so that's if you've got extra cash, ye it is, Well. 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: This is the thing. It's a big call, and it's 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: it's not like you've got a Heber money up your. 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Sleep or your super may have come through and you've 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: got a little bit in the tank. You've worked your 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: bum off all those years. 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: But that's what you're supers for. Your supers is to 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: see your last few years of your life out. 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: But they're saying instead of leaving anything, let's just get 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: on together and burn it as we go. 36 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: What what are you talking about? This is I worry 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: for my parents because this is the thing that they've 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: got their super now. But the fire movement as it's called, 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: which is financial independence retire early, is really coming into 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: play and the people out there that are going, I 41 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: think the biggest thing. You've actually got to sit down 42 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: and think to yourself. If I retired right now, what 43 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: do I have to live on a day to get 44 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: through to the end of my life? And what sort 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: of age are you looking at here, Kate? Are you 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: looking in your eighties or your nineties? 47 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: When are you going to I know you'd like to 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: think that you might live to one hundred, but it 49 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: can all end tomorrow, and if you're not well, perhaps 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: you don't want to go on that far. 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Do you know? The thing is too like when you 52 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: get older and you'll go to your doctor and the 53 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: doctor will say, hey, mate. The number one thing that 54 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: you can do to keep yourself alive is stay active 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: and busy and interested because the minute you switch that off, 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: your brain starts to slow down and you will decline rapidly. 57 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: You must remain interested. 58 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: You could travel, You could buy yourself a caravan, sell 59 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: the family home and buy caravan and travel around Australia, 60 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: or you could do any of that. Thing. The scary 61 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: thing is, I think for a lot of people, is 62 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: that you can't time it and you things go wrong. 63 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: There could be you don't have your insurance anymore, or 64 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: you know, something might get burnt down. Imagine if you 65 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: got to the age of seventy five and you burnt 66 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: through all your money. It's not like you can go 67 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: and get another job to keep yourself going. 68 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about if Kate's aware of 69 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: this fits, but you've actually got a condition called Graves disease. Now, 70 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: I've never heard of a worse name disease in my life. 71 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: No fits, he's got Graves disease. 72 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: I don't anymore. Great, I did have it, which is 73 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: your thyroid? And it was and the doctor that discovered 74 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: it was doctor Graves, was it? And unfortunate name. We 75 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: did this the other day. 76 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: Sorry, the guy that discovered it years ago not discovered 77 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: your version. 78 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: Not no, no, no, no, pete no. Peter Graves was 79 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: not not a mate of mine. I just you know, 80 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: you thought about getting your thyroid check out? 81 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Hey, Andrew in PARAMOUNTA, thanks for calling. What do you think? 82 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: Do you want to retire early or spend the cash 83 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: with the family or. 84 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm definitely. 85 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: Retiring early and it's news that money in trouble with 86 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: my family? Make memories what I'm alive? So, Andrew, have 87 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: you picked an age? 88 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: Is there? 89 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: What are you thinking? 90 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: I'm thinking fifty fifty? Yeah, you must have worked your 91 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: way into a nice position though. 92 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: In twenty nine? Are you're twenty nine? But you you're 93 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: is that you're going to work your butt off until 94 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: fifty and then you're going to you sort of you've 95 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: worked it out that you'll be able to survive for 96 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: the rest of your life. Andrew. Yeah, that's my plan. 97 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what ten years away. 98 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: I think that's good because it's different. It's so different 99 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: these days. And Andrew's young, and he's going to have 100 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: all sorts of hustles on the go. He won't have 101 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: a full time job, and he'll make more money than 102 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: anybody with his hustles. I've got a guy. I got 103 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: a fourteen year old kid down the street who's gurning 104 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: my driveway today for a hunjie. See yeah, it's just 105 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: it's just got a side hustle what. 106 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: I've got a quote for. And it was awesome paying 107 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: a kid one hundred bucks to gurney your drive I 108 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: think it's your kids to do it. 109 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: No, that's you're missing the point. He's created a side 110 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: hustle and I want to support him. 111 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: It's kind of cool. 112 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: He's door knocking for work, like, good on him a crack. 113 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if he doesn't do a good job, I 114 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: won't pay him. He misses the edges, sorry, mate. 115 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: You could give him your books, but you'll. 116 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Get an education there now. Ten dollars at the far 117 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: two personal trainer dot com. It's Whipper with Kate Ritchie 118 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: is a Nova podcast walk great shows like this. Download 119 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: the Nova player, fire the app store, or Google playing 120 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: the player