WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 10 December 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:04.439 On scor US Australia. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.200 This is the Wedder Panalty Show. 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.160 Good evening, Welcome to the reader Panahe show. I'm Caroline 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.880 de Russo coming up tonight. Why Australians are falling out 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:20.040 of love with evs. Gary Hargrave joins me shortly and 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.720 has the rebel leader in Syria had a road to 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:27.040 Damascus moment? Or is he just another g hardy? Max 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:31.200 Abrams joins me from the US to discuss Keir Starmer's 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:36.120 UK labor government continues to make itself stunningly unpopular. I 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:39.480 speak to Darren Grimes in London with the latest shock poll, 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.360 and of course Left is losing it tonight, including this 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.960 member of the trans community who doesn't understand why they 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:48.320 aren't taken seriously. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.519 I'm trans and I'm scared for the trans community. This 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.200 is why people don't take us seriously. The reason our 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.560 country is self and the reason the rest of the 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.320 world laughs at us is because of people like me. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.600 But first joining me now is Sky News contributor. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:08.759 Gary Hargrave, Gary Kat the CSIRO. They've released the updated 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.000 gen cost report yesterday, but I still think there's a 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.920 misunderstanding in the community about what this report is talking about, 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.040 and I think people need to remember that the costs 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.080 referred to in the report is the break even cost 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.880 for investors, you know, to recover their capital operating cost, 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.760 reasonable rate of return. That what we see in the 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.399 wholesale cost, it's got nothing to do with the retail 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:37.480 price for customers, doesn't include distribution, metering, retail margin, all 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:42.360 those sorts of things, and the impact across different regions, 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:47.440 different states. The cost stack, well, the wholesale cost is 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.040 a much of a muchness. We've got this great graph 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:54.560 here from AEMO which shows that the wholesale costs plus 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.160 plus in each state. You know, there are plenty other 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.200 things which go into the mix before you get to 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:05.640 retail prices on top of that wholesale cost. Gary, I 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:09.520 just don't know whether this report helps Australians to inform 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.400 their view on energy alternatives. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:16.000 Yeah, and Caron, I'm a former ministry in the Science portfolio, 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.640 and so I find anything that the CSI seems to 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:24.040 do these days politically tinged, and it's about really just 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.600 keeping happy their political masters, which. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:27.600 Is not what we want from them. 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.080 Get back to the diet to help Australians lose weight, 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.240 I say, that's the best thing they've ever done. But 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.160 this thing is just mischievous, It is misleading, it's lacking 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.160 the real detail. And you talk about the distribution costs, 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.120 we cannot gloss over that. Estimates are between one point 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:48.360 five and two trillion dollars worth of duplication of the 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.960 current electricity grid around the country, more poles and wires 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.600 in more places, more of those big steel staunchings draping 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.160 across our countryside. And that's how renewables are going to 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.160 impact upon the vistas of Australia at the very least, 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.840 let alone the cost factors. So you're right, there are 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.720 so many other aspects to this, but look it's pretty simple. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.359 Yes, when when it blows. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.720 Can generate electricity, sun when it shines can generate electricity, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.760 but that's only about thirty percent of the time that 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:19.640 we need electricity. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.000 We need twenty four to seven. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.960 And Caroline, we can't have a future made in Australia 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.359 when currently our present is made in China. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.280 That's where all these things are coming from. 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:32.239 And I think the Prime Minister and Bohen have completely 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:32.919 lost the plot. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.880 There's zealotry is not helping Australia's future at all. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.800 No, And I do really worry when the conversation when 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:46.000 you're talking about energy alternatives is just limited to talking 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:50.120 about the comparison on the wholesale costs. I just don't 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:54.360 think that that really helps Australian consumers understand the issue. 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:55.280 Well. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.800 But moving on Gary, but still on the green economy, 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.320 let's stay with that very piece by Judith Sloan about 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.840 why consumers aren't taking the EV bait anymore. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:07.360 Look, I'm not surprised. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.000 I've gone through EV ownership with jem Atoniini. I didn't 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.400 own one myself, but it was traumatic for me just 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.360 watching her own one of these things. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:16.920 But what's the catalyst here? 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.880 Well, I mean, let's face it, to charge your car, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.560 it's exactly the same as it is to keep your 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.240 house going. And so we've got a house full of 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.560 fridges and washing machines and things like that. That's the 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.400 sort of juice you've got to put into your vehicle 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.560 every day. So look at the current power bill and 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.719 then double it. That's a pretty good indicator about the cost. Look, 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.279 I'm pretty agnostic about what's under the front of the car, 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.560 and I know some of these evs they go like 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.159 the as we say in Queensland, like the clappers. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.240 They get away from the from the traffic lights. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.039 Pretty darn fast, and so they've got performance, but how 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:51.479 long for? 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:51.920 You know? 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.279 It's they look great in the Strait, but the country 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.599 maybe not so. And of course the infrastructure to back 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.360 them up is again big thing, and I think a 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:02.880 lot of Australians again. 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.039 Realizing that it doesn't stack up. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.360 So whether it's the paperwork, whether it's the urging by 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.360 the Greens and people are sick here and the woe 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.480 Green the agenda they really are Caroline, or whether it's 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.400 just simply the reality of costs. I think people are 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:22.080 going to try and keep their old car going longer 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.240 because I don't think I can afford these these they're 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.000 also about twice the retail price in a lot of cases. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.440 I know there's some cheap ones coming, so it's not 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.400 a very compelling argument for most of us. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.719 No, And I think a lot of people were sucked 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.520 in by the tax break, but I'm not sure that 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.680 the tax break makes up for the inconvenience of actually 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.080 owning one of these things. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.480 Now into something I never thought would happen. In Australia 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.440 or to Australia, but the. 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:53.320 Simon Wisenhal Center, a global Jewish human rights organization, is 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.480 issued a travel warning to Jews coming to Australia. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:58.560 Gary, is this actually happening to us? 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.440 Look like you? 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.320 I am not Jewish, but I've got to say I'm 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.160 very much so on the Bob Hawk nineteen seventy one 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.080 view that you know, if the bell tolls for Israel, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:14.240 it's tolling for all of humankind. I greatly believe that 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.400 what is happening in Israel now is so wrong, but 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.680 what is happening in Australia is even worse. We've got 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.640 a Prime Minister who's completely lost his way, lost interest 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.040 frankly in the job. He's got the girl, the flash house, 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.920 he's got the lifetime pension, he's got lifetime admittance to 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.560 the Chairman's lounge, your name it, he's got it. And 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.800 so I actually think that over Christmas he's going to 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.800 have to have a real strong talk to himself about 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.600 whether he can actually keep going, because the failure on 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.279 this is exposed that he would actually go and play 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.080 tennis in the Golden Triangle of Perth, beautiful part of 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.680 the world, Coddsloo, I get it, I understand it. But Fedinkham, 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.160 the whole community in Melbourne that has supported Labor was 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.400 mourning the loss of a place of worship and he 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:01.360 couldn't actually, on instinct, work out that it was a terrorist. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:02.680 When Prime miises say this. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.359 There's a consequence, But on instinct there is something really 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.520 wrong here and he should have known it from the 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.320 first moment he heard about it, but he didn't. And 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.280 so I just think the guy has talked his way 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.720 out of the job, and sooner he goes the better. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.559 That's certainly what I'm hearing around Brisbane. We want him gone, 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:20.480 real simple. 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.160 Yeah, And I don't think you guys are the only ones. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.640 I think you make a really good point though, Gary, like, 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:32.360 where are your priorities if your instinct isn't there to prioritize, 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.680 you know, standing with the Jewish community in solidarity after 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.120 something like this, and instead it's Labor donus playing tennis 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.920 and obviously that brand new train set over in Western Australia. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.920 It really I think does raise some questions about your 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.559 judgment and maybe about your motivation for the job. 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.840 Gary Hargrave, thank you so much for joining us, Thanks Carola. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.160 Joining me now is GB News host Darren Grimes Darren UK. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:05.360 Labor has had an impressive dive in popularity since being elected. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.640 Their ability to govern, frankly is even worse than I expected. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.560 It's all being laid in a recent poll. What's the 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.200 lightest on Labour's performance. 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.080 Yeah, I mean it's pretty abysmal actually for the Labor Party. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.920 You know, they're looking like they're going to be guaranteed 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.520 to be a one term government and we're saying that 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:30.440 five months after they won a landslide majority. I don't 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.920 think actually this what we're looking at here with this poll, 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.040 because what it actually showed was that Nigel Farage's Reform 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:41.959 Party was polling ahead of the Labor the governing Labor Party. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.880 I don't think this is a blip. I think actually 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.680 this is the sound of Westminster's very foundations starting to 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:53.559 actually crack apart. You know, you've got a mega momentum 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:58.160 building in Britain for a party that believes in the 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.240 nation state, that wants to control its borders, a novel idea, 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.520 I know, But you Australians managed to do it. Why 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.640 can't we? We're also an island nation. It's not beyond 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.320 the widowed man, and actually not to tax everybody out 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:17.719 of existence while spending five billion pounds on asylum for 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.320 illegal migrants and others within this country. It's putting the 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.920 British people's priorities first, and the Labor Party have been 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.760 seen to be doing the total opposite of that. So 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.680 I'm not remotely surprised by this poll. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:31.160 You know, the. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.920 Idea of Labor as the voice of the work and class, well, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:39.360 they've been relegated to third place. So Reform it's no 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.880 longer a fringe party. I think it's starting to look 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.680 like a genuine contender for power here in Britain. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.800 And how do the other parties, the Tories and Reform, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.600 how did they make hay out of all. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.560 These, you know, being so far out from the next election. 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.440 I think they continue doing what they're doing. To be 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.760 perfectly frank with you, I think the Labor Party are 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.319 doing enough for themselves to make an absolute hash of it. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.400 I don't think the winter fuel cut, I don't think 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.840 that the tax rises, I don't think that the prioritization 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.880 of illegals over the indigenous population. I don't think they're 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.760 the kind of things that in four and a half 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.160 years the Labor Party can have the nation fall into 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.480 some form of amnesia and forget all about I think 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:30.280 their brand now already is incredibly toxic with the British public. 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.400 No longer is this a protest vote. I think this 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.760 is a vote and act of saying both of the 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.880 main political parties the UNI Party, if you will, are 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.080 two cheeks of the same horrible old behind, and people 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.280 are wanting to see the behind of that horrible old behind. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:50.440 I love that now. 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:55.360 And I'm just curious with your system of elections being 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.240 first past the post, and here in Australia obviously we 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:02.200 have preferential voting. Is there enough room to have two 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.640 center right parties? How do they help each other out 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:06.920 not getting each other's way. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.880 Look, I'm not sure that is possible. I think you're 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.480 right that in this the realities of the first past 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.640 of the post system, or that the if there are 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:20.199 two significant forces on the right of British politics, that 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.280 they will ultimately be competing for each other's votes. But 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.080 the really interesting thing is that I think in the 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.160 so called red wall, so that's like our rust belt, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:34.400 I actually think that reform are the only viable contenders 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.960 right there, right now. I'm here in the northeast of England, 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.199 for example, that's the kind of area where Reform are 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.800 starting to fight through. They're saying, look, we're going to 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.199 focus on local elections, We're going to recruit dissolutioned MP's 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:52.840 and relentlessly target the red Wall heartlands which were supposed 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.760 to be the Labor Party's bread and butter. But now 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.679 they're more interested in the likes of the island Tonian 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:04.079 middle classes and Islamists. And that ain't the priorities of 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.640 people up here. I'll tell you that for free. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:08.319 No. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.480 And that seems to be not just in the UK, 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.439 but in the US and even in Australia. 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.640 You are really seeing that in those. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:20.400 Outer suburban type areas as compared to the inner cities. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:25.040 But let's just continue on on that thought process for 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.160 a second. Is there room then for a potential coalition 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.280 between the Tories and Reform, assuming you know, they kind 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.080 of stick to different sorts of knitting and they they're 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:38.480 able to beat the Labor Party. 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.720 I don't think that will happen. I think ultimately I 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.320 don't see what would be in reforms interests for that 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:51.000 to happen because the Tory brand has been one and 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.880 you know, you've documented it so many times on this 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:58.000 or ghost channel where you're talking about the fact that 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:02.880 British people in twenty ten, twenty fifteen, twenty seventeen, twenty nineteen, 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.800 all of those times they've voted for the Conservatives on 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.760 a commitment to reduce net migration to this country. We 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.560 just had a million people come to this country last year. 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.640 A million people. That's a city the size of Birmingham, 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.679 and that is unsustainable and it's a complete betrayal of 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.560 the trust and the faith that was put in that 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:27.520 party each on each of those occasions in different strands 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.440 of Conservatism. And I think that betrayal isn't going to 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.600 go away from the mind of the British public over 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.120 the next four and a half years. So I think 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.080 Reform would be mad, frankly, to sign up to any 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.640 kind of formal agreement at this stage. We'll see what happens. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.040 Four and a half years is a very long time 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:50.000 in a lot of times, but that betrayal that's still 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:51.760 very sore for a lot of people. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.520 And fair enough, absolutely fair enough, and look, you know, 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:57.760 let's go back to libor that. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:58.920 You know, there's been plenty of. 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:03.839 Coverage in the Chris regarding labor's cuts to the pensioners' 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.200 energy payments. So much for the compassionate side of politics. 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.160 But we'll park that to one side. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:11.200 Apparently it's getting worse. 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.600 New Reach research is showing that pensioners are now skipping 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.520 meals because of financial concerns. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.720 How are these people meant to get through the winter. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:22.840 Yeah, it's a very good question. 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.720 Also, whilst in pursuit of net zero or madness, you know, 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.280 we're not fortunate like the Australians, where you know, you 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:35.920 still have in some respects at least a viable energy policy. 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.080 I think in this country we have gone so far 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.560 over the other edge that you know, we're shivering in 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.680 our homes expecting wind turbines to turn on. Just the 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.280 other day we had a storm called Storm Darrah, and 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.480 by the way, the wind was blowing so hard that 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.760 the wind turbines that were all reliant upon now weren't 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.600 even spinning. I mean, make of that what you will. 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.160 The problem here is that we're saying to people you 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.840 can't have gas, you can't have coal. We didn't go 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.240 into nuclear, so we haven't got that, so effectively, you're 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.840 stuck with high sky high energy bills, the highest in Europe, 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:15.720 the highest in the developed world, frankly, and pensioners are 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.080 now being told that their winter fuel payment will be 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:23.560 taken from them as well. So basically the Labor Party 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.960 policy is saying to pensioners, you will sit quietly, you 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.760 will shiver in the cold, and you will be grateful 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:35.240 for it, despite your contribution to this country throughout your 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.680 working life. I think it's an act of as you say, 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.400 where is the compassion. It's an act of great cruelty. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.680 And the idea that's slashing it now at this point 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.160 for over nine million pensioners being a good idea when 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:54.240 our energy policy is nuttier than a fruitcake. I just 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.920 can't make heads or tails of it. I really can't. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:15:59.200 Well. 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.640 Libra are trying to save one point four billion pounds apparently, 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.440 but I refuse to believe that there isn't room to 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:10.600 cut costs elsewhere. But honestly, why would you choose something like. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:17.800 This because simple fact, pensioners primarily do not vote for 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.400 the Labor Party. They do not vote for the left, 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.440 you know, but pensioners on pension credit which is a 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.800 form of benefit in this country. Who do qualify for 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:30.360 the winter fuel allowance, they're not aware that they are 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.880 able to actually get this payment. And they're making eleven 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.240 thousand pounds. That's not a lot of money. I very 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:40.040 much doubt secure starmer could survive on eleven thousand pounds. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.080 The Party claims to be the party of the work 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.040 and class, but now it's force and pensioners, as you 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:51.480 rightly identify, to choose between heating and eating. But where 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:56.000 a nation spending billions on international aid on asylum within 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.880 this country, even if you've come here illegally, you get bared, 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.440 you get bored, you get better, and if it's you 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.360 get energy bills, your life is taken care of. Yet 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.640 we can't seem to find the money to ensure our 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.960 elderly have dignity and that Britain can keep itself warm 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.240 at winter. Effectively, the Labor Party need to rethink their 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:20.760 priorities because they are very fast becoming known and synonymous 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.600 with that word betrayal, just as the Conservatives were. And ah, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.520 and that is pretty damning, as they found out to 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:34.480 their cost the Conservative Party. So I'm just I'm insensed 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.200 by what's happening in my country. I don't recognize what's 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.320 happening in my country, but I'm also filled with hope 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.919 and optimism that we might actually get some change away 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:48.480 from the uniparty, because they've both made such a frightful 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.600 mess of everything in this country. 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.159 Absolutely, but the Brits, you know, you always do have 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.639 a sense of humor, and the lackluster performance of this 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.080 government has spact Christmas parodies of Kio Stama. 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:01.600 Here it is. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:03.560 It'll be freezing? 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.400 Is Christmas without fuel at home? 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:10.760 It'll be freezing? 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.879 Is Christmass weller stars warm? 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:22.960 It'll be cold, so cold with that few at home? 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:30.000 It is Christmas. She told me she doesn't get outuntil midday. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:30.840 Because she didn't want to tell her hit. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.280 You A video like this was bound to happen, wasn't it, Darren? 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.640 Yeah? Absolutely, I mean you're right, you've got to laugh 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.399 while you'll cry. I mean, hopefully Pension is watching this 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.840 will be laughing themselves so hard that it keeps them 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.760 slightly more moderately warmer than Sakir Starmer, no doubt, with 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.720 his central heating blaring in Number ten Downing Street. I mean, 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.560 this has taken the country by storm right. This is 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.760 channeling the anger, the frustration of millions who feel that 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:04.359 betrayal Chris Middleton and the performers. There's Sir Starmer and 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:08.800 the Granny Harmers. I mean, if your moniker is Granny Harmer, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.960 I would suggest that your pr machine probably isn't working 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:16.159 quite as effectively as you hoped. You know, this is 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.920 a rallying cry. I hope it climbs in the charts 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:24.080 and actually could become the Christmas number one, because we're 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:29.119 not going to sit here while our pensioners struggle in 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.080 this winter snap. You know, the biting lyrics here and 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:37.800 the humorists take it's serious, but it perfectly captures the mood. 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:42.199 It's not entertainment. It's a form of activism and that 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:46.040 should be really quite scary, orso, Keir Starmer, because every 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.320 download is a slap in the face to a party 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.760 that just won four hundred odds seats in a parliament 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.159 with only six hundred and fifty of them. You know, 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.280 that is a damning indictment of what the decisions and 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:04.639 priorities they've made whilst getting into government a million old people, 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:08.480 as you said earlier, skipping meals millions more turning off 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.040 the heating because they can't afford it. I mean, come on, 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:13.920 we're meant to be the sixth biggest time. 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:20.399 Absolutely extraordinary. It is absolutely extraordinary. And it's not just 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.880 a government. But we've seen a few recent examples of 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.120 the police in the UK policing opinions that they don't 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:27.879 appear to like. 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.000 Here is the latest example, arresting. 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:36.360 You abscission of improper use of the electronics communications network. 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:43.520 I'm going to be arresting some comments that are offensive 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.960 of scene and people have made complaints about that and. 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.119 It's translated this comment. 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:55.800 Will do that when we interview. I know I've been 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:56.960 very gobsmacked. 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.320 I feel like throughout this entire interview, but this actually 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:01.399 can't be real, can it? 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:03.400 Oh? 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:04.720 No, it very much can be. 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:05.159 You know. 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.680 I am the proud recipient of something called a non 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:12.760 crime hate incident. Now the police in this country moderate 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.040 non crimes. And this was because I conducted an interview 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.360 during the Black Lives Matter madness that enveloped the country 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:23.040 over a dead American criminal. I have no idea why 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.720 it came over to this country. I aired an interview 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.960 with a renowned historian in this country and As a consequence, 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.680 I was slapped with an investigation that amounted to nothing. 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:36.520 The Home Secretary even got involved, but I still have 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:41.520 a non crime hate incident against my name. Now that 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.120 if you do a deep background check as a British citizen, 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.600 that comes up on your police record. So it makes 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:52.440 you sound like some kind of real wrongman, when actually 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:56.440 you're just a journalist who's exploring ideas that go against 0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:01.159 the consensus of the moment, the zeitgeist of moment. So 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:06.800 what's happening there? This guy posted on his social media 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:10.600 account and someone's made a complaint and the police have 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.200 decided to look into it. 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:13.480 But I'll tell you what. 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.560 The police are loathed to actually look into burglaries, to 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.800 look into fifth to your phone being swept off the 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:25.600 streets of London. They will do absolutely everything but police 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:33.080 actual crime. We are fast becoming an incredibly authoritarian state 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:36.840 in which the police are there to pervert what we 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:41.800 say online over what's actually done to us on our streets. 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.399