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Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Now if you've listened to the show recently, we have

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Speaker 2: launched the campaign around three weeks to a month ago

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Speaker 2: now called thirty six months, and we are trying to

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Speaker 2: change the age that kids can join social media in

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Speaker 2: this country. At the moment it's thirteen and there's not

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Speaker 2: much of an age gate anyway, so we know that

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Speaker 2: a lot of younger kids are actually joining social media,

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Speaker 2: but the damage that is being done is scary to

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Speaker 2: talk about it, truly is. So the age of sixteen

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Speaker 2: might give them a level of maturity and a chance

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Speaker 2: to hit the social media scene with some more skills.

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Speaker 2: And that's why we invite the leader of the opposition,

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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton this morning onto the show. Pete, thanks for

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Speaker 2: coming in mate, make great to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: When I think about what we've launched so far on

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Speaker 2: the petition, we have one hundred thousand signatures, so you

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Speaker 2: can see the calling and you understand the need for

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Speaker 2: this topic and I know you're passionate about it.

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Speaker 1: Well. I signed the petition this morning not just as

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Speaker 1: a dad, but also a long time ago as a

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Speaker 1: police officer. I worked in obviously sex offender Squad in

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Speaker 1: other areas where it was pre Internet, but it was

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Speaker 1: an area where you saw people exposed to the worst

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Speaker 1: element of society and how they coped with that. But

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Speaker 1: now it's not an industrial scale in terms of the

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Speaker 1: content that young kids are subject to. We wouldn't in

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Speaker 1: the real world allow our kids to go into a

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Speaker 1: park or into a shopping center just to hang out

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Speaker 1: with any adult that came by. No would read anything

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Speaker 1: put in front of them without us knowing what it was,

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Speaker 1: and so I don't think it's unreasonable, particularly for young

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Speaker 1: children where you've got impressionable minds, and particularly when the

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Speaker 1: evidence is so obvious that the self harm and the

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Speaker 1: pressure that comes on young people through sharing of images, etc.

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Speaker 1: That's the reality of their life now and we should

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Speaker 1: be doing everything we can to support them.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you do that, Pete, but being

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Speaker 3: a police officer and seeing what you've seen, and I

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Speaker 3: know you've spoken about your pretty strict parenting style over

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Speaker 3: the years. I mean, you know, even letting your kids

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Speaker 3: into public toilets as you're worried you know that they

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Speaker 3: might go missing or stuff like that. It must be

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Speaker 3: very hard for you I know your kids are a

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Speaker 3: lot older now, Pete, so they were social media around

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Speaker 3: then When your kids were younger, did you give was

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Speaker 3: there an age limit for your children?

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Speaker 1: Well, our youngest guys just finished year twelve, so he's eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and then nineteen and twenty two, so they've grown up

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Speaker 1: with social media and it's the way. Look, it's the

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Speaker 1: way that our family stays connected. But when they were younger,

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Speaker 1: we were pretty strict about what they had access to

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Speaker 1: and particularly about their friendship groups online. But it's a

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Speaker 1: tough conversation because it's the way that kids communicate with

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Speaker 1: their own friendship groups. They want privacy. You're just you're

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Speaker 1: blind to any of that, so you know, there's a

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Speaker 1: very different path that some kids can take as a

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Speaker 1: result of being exposed to it. Pete.

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Speaker 2: If your government was in power, is this something that

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Speaker 2: you would support?

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Speaker 1: I would put it at the top of my list

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Speaker 1: for the first one hundred days in government, so within

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Speaker 1: the first three months we would introduce it. And it

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Speaker 1: reflects the community values and where the view is for

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Speaker 1: the vast majority of Australians at the moment. So honestly,

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Speaker 1: I can't understand an argument against putting in place sensible measures.

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Speaker 2: And do you know what A lot of the argument too,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of the feedback and comments have been

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Speaker 2: but it's the parent's role. Well, unfortunately that doesn't exist

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Speaker 2: because the parents will power us because they're cat It

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Speaker 2: is impossible.

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Speaker 3: Because it's the excuse of everyone's on it. It's hard

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Speaker 3: to argue with that with the kid. But if you

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Speaker 3: say that this is against the law, you can't do

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Speaker 3: it until you're sixteen, it is a lot easier to

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Speaker 3: get over the line with your children.

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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right. It just gives parents more

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Speaker 1: power in the equation. And there is a lot of

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Speaker 1: pressure because there are plenty of examples as well of

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Speaker 1: kids being isolated from their friendship groups, not being able

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Speaker 1: to communicate. Particularly that was the case over COVID, and

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Speaker 1: many of them wouldn't have coped without the ability to

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Speaker 1: share their story and their journey and their pain and

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Speaker 1: what they were experiencing being shut out of school and

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Speaker 1: locked up at home, et cetera. And it's the case

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Speaker 1: that we need to have just a sensible, moderate approach.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's saying ban the Internet any of that sort of nonsense.

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Speaker 1: It is about allowing parents to have that conversation. As

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Speaker 1: we said, and as you know fifty points out, it

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Speaker 1: is it's tough for parents because they you know, every

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Speaker 1: kid in the class has got it, so why haven't I.

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Speaker 1: But if you introduce the law and you normalize that

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Speaker 1: as being you know, the accepted normal, as you point out,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't drive a car until you've got

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Speaker 1: your license, and everybody bides by that, well they should,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's a reasonable approach.

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Speaker 3: Ge. There would have been a fair bit of difference

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Speaker 3: between a thirteen year old Peter Dutton to a sixteen

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Speaker 3: year old Peter Dutton.

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Speaker 1: Was the nan year old Peter Dutton doing what did

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Speaker 1: he look like? There's probably about forty kilo difference so

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Speaker 1: between and now a kilo that being hair as well.

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Speaker 1: But I tell my boys now stop putting crap on me,

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Speaker 1: because I have more hair than you at your age,

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Speaker 1: you've got dodgy jeans and look out, get back to.

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Speaker 2: Year older Tommy. Is this where we pin mister Dutton down?

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Speaker 2: If he heads the top job, he becomes prime minister.

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Speaker 2: We have an annual Carabilly backyard cricket game, so we

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Speaker 2: would like to hope that if you're in power, we

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Speaker 2: would honor the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a Deal's a deal. We're happy for

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Speaker 1: a bit of backyard. So that's big at our place.

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Speaker 1: Actually we were just a quick story. We're at Kiribillity

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Speaker 1: years ago with our kids who are quite young at

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Speaker 1: the time, and on New Year's Day there's or the

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Speaker 1: visiting cricket team always has a function at Kirabilly, So

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Speaker 1: we go along there with our young kids and Kirabilly

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Speaker 1: has quite a steep down down the hill, and Harry

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Speaker 1: decided that he would roll down the hill. The trouble

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Speaker 1: is he collided with a pot plant on his way down,

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Speaker 1: and it didn't you know, didn't. He just shook it

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Speaker 1: off and he was tired. Next year, next year we

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Speaker 1: went back. All the pot plants have got like tires

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Speaker 1: around and.

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Speaker 2: Designed the lands.

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Speaker 1: You won't be happy. I'll tell you that story about

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Speaker 1: the dart and roll exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Well, Pete, thank you for coming on board, mate, and

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Speaker 2: thank you for taking interest in obviously your passionate topic.

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Speaker 2: Thirty six months dot com dot au. If anybody hasn't

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Speaker 2: signed the petition, we want your voice there and stand

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Speaker 2: up as a proud as he to say, enough is enough.

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Speaker 2: We need to look after our kids. And thank you

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Speaker 2: for your support Mate broad Stuff, Thanks guys, thank you.

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