1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fitting in with with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Wednesday night, we went to the premiere of Gladiator two. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 3: You don't actually talk quite about because you're not the 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 3: star of the show. I mean, please let Paul and 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 3: Fred do. 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 4: Its sounding desperate, is can I just can you set 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 4: this up? 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 3: Is Paul a young Maximus or I. 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Can't give too much worry about the film ran right? 10 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: The answer is no, but it's not. 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: It's certainly not a different story as such. So there's 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: a connection and a continuation on from Gladiator one to 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: Gladiator two. 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you have to have seen the original. 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: No you don't. 16 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: But I mean it's worse. It's revisiting, isn't it. 17 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice, you know what I do. It's not 18 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: out till November four I was going to say, sit 19 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: down and watch the two of them together, one after 20 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: the other, like movie marathon. 21 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: Well you could if you wait till November fourteen. 22 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to wait till then. But you know, 23 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: it's it is amazing without it out amazing. Paul Moscal, 24 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: Fred Heckingjap they are the stars of the film The 25 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: Flu Into Town, and yesterday we had the chance to 26 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: sit down with him to talk about gladiotor two. 27 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Rome has taken everything from me, but I will have 28 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: my vengeance. 29 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: The odds are against you. 30 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: The odds are always against me. 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: Paul Meskell and Fred Akinja, the stars of Gladiator Too, 32 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: welcome to the show. Guys, you welcome. 33 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: You must have been rapped with the turnout last night. 34 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't looked amazing, like more people than I probably 35 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: was expecting, as it was really like spectacular. 36 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 5: You've been in Rome and this is the you know, 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 5: bringing it to Australia is kind of the next big 38 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 5: showing of the film, is that right? 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 40 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 6: This last day was our first premiere of the film. 41 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 6: First first yeah. 42 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Oh wow, you know it was amazing and I could 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: tell how much you guys loved it when you're on 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: stage having a chat too and Bishop beforehand, Paul, you said, 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: I can't believe this. 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Like it's a weird thing because you kind of get 47 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: you get on a plane in London and you're like, okay, 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: we're going to start in Sydney and we're going all 49 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: around the world. But you it kind of can take 50 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: you out of the present tents and then you walk 51 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: out onto the stage and there's twenty four hundred people 52 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: like it. It's just important to remind yourself that it 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: is absolutely mt this whole experience and we're only kind 54 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: of at the presspoe of it. So last night was 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: a great, a great, great start to. 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 6: The tour, truly beautiful. It's just staggering. You just look 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 6: around and you can feel the love you guys. 58 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, well we also think that and not wanting to 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 5: go back to you know, The Gladiator, the film that. 60 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: We know and have loved with Russell. 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 5: I think that everyone has been so keen here in 62 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 5: Australia to see the film come here because we secretly 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: have a little war spot in our hearts for these 64 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 5: kind of stories as well. 65 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: I hope you guys can feel that. 66 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: I like, I've made two films here and like it 67 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: ties to the fact that it feels so far away 68 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: from home, but people have always been so welcoming to 69 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: me here to the film, and like, I think it 70 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: was what I've found really beautiful about last night. It's 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: like the celebration of like big style filmmaking and the 72 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: appetite that like an Australian audience have for that kind 73 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: of film as well. 74 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: How long after accepting the role. Did you hear from Russell? 75 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Didn't You're gonna have a shot on like the scene 76 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: at the end of like Silence of the Lambs, Like 77 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Ay Hopkins over. 78 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: There, but it's scary where you didn't hear from you? No, 79 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: Like he's being professional. 80 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: No, he's like he's been like I've seen interviews that 81 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: he's done. He's been like to be fair, absolutely nothing, 82 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: nothing but kind. But also like I'm sure Russell as well. 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: It's like once you start making a film, like the 84 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: wheels just come off and you just you go to 85 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: work and that's your primary focus, and then you go 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: and promote the film. I do have this vague fantasy 87 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: of like in a year or two down the line, 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: like having a beer with him in some kind of 89 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: city somewhere in Europe and just like trading story stories. 90 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: You know, I thought that. 91 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: Beer either. I thought it might have been a case 92 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: where you get back to your trailer, you know they've 93 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: called cut at the end of the day. 94 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: Sitting there you got to do this just what I 95 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: was fascinated by it. 96 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: And because I'm not in the film industry, believe it 97 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: or not, I wanted to audition, but I didn't get 98 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: a chance, but just the size and the scale of it. 99 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: I mean, sure there's you know, technology that can reproduce things, 100 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: but at the same time, you need mass numbers of 101 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: people and everybody to organize something like this. That must 102 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: have been extraordinary to watch the whole production take place. 103 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 6: Really built room him and the production team actually built 104 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 6: what felt like a three sixty vision of Rome. 105 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: Wow. 106 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 6: I mean everywhere you walked, everywhere you looked, this, you know, 107 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 6: Empire felt alive. There hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of 108 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 6: people and animals and the dust and you know, every 109 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 6: kind of everything you could imagine was around you. 110 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 3: It pertumative. 111 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 5: There were moments when you during the filming where Redley 112 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 5: would have had to say to you, you kind of 113 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 5: need to trust me here, not only to do with 114 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 5: the characters and the storyline, but like the vision, because 115 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 5: I'm sure a lot of what correct me if I'm wrong, 116 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 5: what you see on the day is not then what 117 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: we necessarily see on screen once it's been through a 118 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 5: few processes and CGI or do you know what? Were 119 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: there things you had to go Okay, I'm just gonna 120 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 5: go with it here, and then you've been surprised watching 121 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 5: the film yourself. 122 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: I think for the most that's always true of any film. 123 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: But actually, weirdly I thought there would be more of that, right, 124 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: because we didn't do a lot of like blue screen 125 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: or green screen work, so what we were seeing on 126 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: the day was pretty much just to scale. Like there's 127 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: certain instances like we didn't actually flood the Colisseum with 128 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: water because I don't like that, but that was never 129 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: going to be possible. 130 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: Expensive. 131 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 6: But fight him fighting on the books you did every 132 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 6: time he did. 133 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: He did it even when when it wasn't being filmed. 134 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 6: Ridley comes off and he goes, I'm going to give 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 6: you the best off camera action you've ever seen. 136 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: It was amazing though, because you know, the movie Too 137 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: represents great stories out of rhyme, and I don't want 138 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: to give away everything from the film, but what I 139 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: was amazed to read was what happens in Gladiator Too 140 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: is quite accurate to what went on in Rome and 141 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: the Coliseum. 142 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's an extension of the first one. 143 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: Was in the kind of action, Yeah, the action, and 144 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: I think Ridley is a great example of somebody he 145 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: will always base it in historical accuracy. But then will. 146 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: He knows that he's making He's not making a documentary, 147 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: he's making a film for entertainment purposes, so he kind 148 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: of dial it up to one hundred. And I think 149 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: he's done that. It's so like, great, great effect in 150 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: this film, because. 151 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: When I went home last night, I googled a couple 152 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: of things about the film, just for pure interesting being 153 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: in the moment of the film. 154 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: And it happened. 155 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and people know what I'm talking about when they 156 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: say the film, but it actually went on. Yeah, it's 157 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: above what I think anybody really knows of common knowledge 158 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: of the Colosse and those battles. 159 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 6: He's been thinking. Ridley's been thinking about those battles for 160 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 6: over twenty years because the Baboon fight is a fight 161 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 6: that he wanted to put in the first film, and 162 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 6: they didn't have the time or the money to do 163 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 6: it then. So for over twenty four years now he's 164 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 6: been thinking, how do I film this? How do I 165 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 6: do it right? And it's just, you know, so he 166 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 6: needed it was like from his gut he needed to 167 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 6: put that on screen. 168 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 5: You didn't get the call up for the first all 169 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 5: the second film, he's. 170 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: Actually very good. Can you just can you just do Caesar. 171 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's from the first one and it's when the 172 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: old Caesar is dying and he's holding his son, who 173 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: I think is Joaquin Phoenix at the time, and he's 174 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: is because your faults as a son are my failures 175 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: as a Father's very good. 176 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: You're very good. Richard Harris. 177 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: So, Richard Harris, Richard Harris near, Richard Harris, Congratulations, well done, 178 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: Thank you being here in Sydney. 179 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 6: Thanks for delighted to be here. 180 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: Thanks to Sen Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova 181 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: podcast walk great shows like this. 182 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: Download the Nova player, Fire, the app store or Google 183 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: playing the