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Speaker 1: Apoche production.

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Speaker 2: Japan is crazy, absolutely insane. They are over there.

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Speaker 1: They've got some crazy stuff they're over there.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much you know about the sex

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Speaker 2: industry or whatever over there, but they've got some crazy

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Speaker 2: things they do, like, you know, to sell the panties

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Speaker 2: in the vending machines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, panties in the vending machines, use.

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Speaker 3: Panies, yeah, back off us pies in the slop in

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Speaker 3: the machines, and you can pay for it. What the fun?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know. So there's a different dynamic.

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Speaker 3: So the girl takes it off, puts it in for sale. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you can come to a slot.

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Speaker 2: Machine getting very shocked by this. You know, girls to

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Speaker 2: do this or only fans at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's only funds. That's a bit weird. You know.

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Speaker 3: You get the weirdos to buy the put it in a.

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Speaker 1: Benny machines and the machine. Yeah, so you can like buy, but.

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Speaker 3: I'll see some of the vendor machines.

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Speaker 1: That's what.

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Speaker 2: Hell, it's very crazy over there. No, you wouldn't expect it.

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Speaker 2: You're expect to be quite subdube, but no, I enjoyed.

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Speaker 2: That was one of my favorite places to go Hong

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Speaker 2: Kong was great because the night life of stuff was

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Speaker 2: fun there. But ye, guess guess best money, I would

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Speaker 2: say it would have been Spirit run Out London and

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Speaker 2: Melbourne Milk Gathering. Ye.

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Speaker 3: So when when was it that you just went you

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Speaker 3: know what? Now you're saying you've had enough of stripping.

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Speaker 3: Now you're saying to yourself you're over stripping or you're

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Speaker 3: over stripping. Are you still doing it? Sometimes a little bit?

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Speaker 2: That time I went to Seventh Playhouse. Oh that's why

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Speaker 2: I went. I went to have a little seas I

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Speaker 2: thouldn't I going to stage And I was like, I joined,

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Speaker 2: I do enjoy dancings.

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Speaker 1: I actually missed.

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Speaker 3: That performance you've done oh.

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Speaker 1: Gosh on stage or like just in general.

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Speaker 2: Every morning. So the last one have been yeah quite

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Speaker 2: a while though. Yeah, it would have been spent right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah you feet to do it? Yeah, yeah, definitely, because

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Speaker 2: I didn't stop dancing. The only reason I stopped dancing

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Speaker 2: was so I felt pregnant. Yeah, and I actually danced

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Speaker 2: up until I was seventeen weeks pregnant, really had a

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Speaker 2: flat stomach. I was just very lucky you were on

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Speaker 2: stage dancing.

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Speaker 1: A seventeen weeks flat stomach, No one knew it's yeah,

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Speaker 3: Feel your baby moving in shing.

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Speaker 2: So and you have one of those percentage of backwards whatever.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't choose to stop dancing like so

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Speaker 2: to speak, It's kind of happened.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's one of those things also where

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Speaker 2: when things are taken away from your control is different

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Speaker 2: to you making that choice.

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Speaker 3: So you are definitely trying to make a comeback.

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Speaker 2: No, I think what I'm doing now I think is

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Speaker 2: definitely more lucrative and more business minded. But I do

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Speaker 2: like to feel that, you know, where else can I

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Speaker 2: make money? Where else can I?

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Speaker 3: Surely you go back to Melbourne or if you did

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Speaker 3: do it, like if you've seen Melbourne's the place where

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Speaker 3: you make good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, you know, look around.

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Speaker 3: So before we go on talking about what you're doing now,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean going from stripping to another adventure,

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Speaker 3: I just want to bring up something that you know

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Speaker 3: you told me about and you know I thought I

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Speaker 3: touched base on it about your brother Damien. Now, like

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Speaker 3: for those who don't know who your brother is, Damien,

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Speaker 3: he was the guy who was actually shot while responding

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Speaker 3: to an arm robbery on the Gold Coast. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: were you overseas when this happened.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I was in England and my daughter was

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Speaker 2: three weeks old, so I flew They flew me back

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Speaker 2: for that obviously. I think I told you last week

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Speaker 2: was the anniversary. That's why I was down big down here.

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Speaker 2: I like to get every year. I like to do

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Speaker 2: my own kind of just remember it. So that's kind

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Speaker 2: of changed with the dynamic of things as well.

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Speaker 1: Everything.

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Speaker 3: How did you feel when you got the on call?

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Speaker 3: Was it like it felt like it wasn't real like

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Speaker 2: You can probablate some of the things in your life,

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Speaker 2: that is the things you remember. It's funny thing little

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Speaker 2: things to remember. I remember in the phone call, I

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Speaker 2: know exactly where I was. I was at a bakery

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Speaker 2: in England and I got told of being shot and

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I was just looking at how

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Speaker 2: here he's just hungt the phone. It was almost like

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Speaker 2: ignorance and imbortance. I had no idea where it being

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't until I went back for the bakery

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Speaker 2: that the police came to the house. And grabbed me

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Speaker 2: and flew me home. I still had no idea on

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Speaker 2: and until I got off the plane and they stopped

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Speaker 2: the plane and they pulled me off and they told

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Speaker 2: me his workmate told me. I was like, I had

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Speaker 2: no idea, Like it is importance. Yeah, a bit of

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Speaker 2: a challenging time.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, how close to you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah we were pretty close.

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Speaker 2: So no, we did all the you know, Indiani balls

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Speaker 2: together and stuff like he's always to take me my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we were pretty close.

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Speaker 2: But it's one of those things I think, even like

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Speaker 2: going forward now the same that stuff is that, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's my love my life. MAT love it because I'm

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Speaker 2: grateful I've outlived him, and you know, I think he's

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Speaker 2: better human I am. He should have not been gone,

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Speaker 2: you know, if anyone will should have been me in

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Speaker 1: So I live my life and love my life.

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Speaker 3: But why did you think that though? Why did you

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Speaker 3: say that?

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Speaker 2: I think it's a better human me, you know, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, his purpose life was actually saving people, and

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Speaker 2: I think that somebody may be My life's questionable.

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Speaker 3: But then again, you can turn around and say that

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Speaker 3: just because you're doing stripping or whatever. You yeah, you

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Speaker 3: could be saving someone's life by the fact that that

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Speaker 3: they're on the depression and they're coming in to see

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Speaker 3: you and you make them happy.

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Speaker 1: You and I probably get that.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people are still judgmental about this

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Speaker 2: whole industry, a lot. I get a lot of still

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Speaker 2: get a lot of hate and stuff in my inboxes,

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Speaker 2: quite a lots of the point where now I have

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Speaker 2: I have keywords that I put in that blocks out

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Speaker 2: messages you know much. Yeah, yeah, but people in the

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Speaker 3: Reason you know, how did you deal with that? Well?

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Speaker 2: Like, I block all these things out anyway, But now

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Speaker 2: I think, as I've got better more selvil about it

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Speaker 2: is that last year is when I came out publicly

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Speaker 2: come out publicly last year because I thought, if I

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Speaker 2: own my ship, then you can't say it to me.

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Speaker 2: And it's been the best thing I've ever done in

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Speaker 2: regards for that, because I'm like, here, I am this,

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Speaker 2: what I'm doing is who I am. If you put

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Speaker 2: a problem with it, that's on you, rather than someone

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Speaker 2: coming at me. Oh I heard you doing this. Yeah

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Speaker 2: I am so only it to me has been the

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Speaker 2: best thing I've ever done.

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Speaker 3: My question is why why did you go down the

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh? I hate two reasons.

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Speaker 2: One was I was in a relagship the time that

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Speaker 2: he had he actually had no sex addiction and I

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Speaker 2: didn't know about it, and he was seeing all these

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Speaker 2: and his doctor and started research into sex addiction. So

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Speaker 2: on my own, I actually went to the broth on

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Speaker 2: myself because I was like, I want to see what

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Speaker 2: the hell these women have that I have. And it

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Speaker 2: was the most understanding, completely think of his eye break.

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Speaker 1: Up ever because I got what it was.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't about going and falling in love that it

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Speaker 2: was about instant gratification, no complication. You lead, there's no

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Speaker 2: it was an instant gratification thing that he would need it.

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Speaker 2: I guess some things that are, you know, where there's

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Speaker 2: normally that we've got that instant gratification, and his was

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Speaker 1: And even though I was giving leaves of it, I

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Speaker 2: So I went in there for that reason to find out,

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Speaker 2: and it was that's what kind of like interests me

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Speaker 2: you've made good money here and I was like, yes,

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Speaker 3: Yes you got. What did you say when you came in?

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Speaker 3: What were you doing?

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Speaker 2: I was pretty upsets for the time because I was

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Speaker 2: trying to navigate what does this happen? And so I

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Speaker 2: explained the whole situation of what that is.

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Speaker 3: Was it actually the brothel? He went to, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, okay, and I don't want to know.

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Speaker 2: So from that and I always said him, as I said,

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Speaker 1: I don't don't need to know.

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Speaker 2: So there was that reason, I guess, And also we've

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Speaker 2: been completely honest. I had so I've got two gorgeous kids,

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Speaker 2: very very grateful.

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Speaker 1: After murdered my brother.

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Speaker 2: Even though I was like three weeks model, three weeks old,

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Speaker 2: I had no sex rye it was gone. I got

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Speaker 2: no I had no interest in sex. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Had no interest in sex for ages.

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, when I met this

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Speaker 2: me it was like, you know what, You've taken that

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Speaker 2: powerway from me by having these You know, why can't

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Speaker 2: I have all that as well? So in a way

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Speaker 2: it became a bit of a tip for tat became

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Speaker 2: a bit of a bit of a path is to

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Speaker 2: go down to see if I really had lost my

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Speaker 2: sex drive or if I was still sex short. But

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Speaker 2: also I still felt validated, and that was a big

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Speaker 2: thing for me. Him cheated me, other women made me

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Speaker 2: feel like I wasn't enough. Hence my tatter you are enough.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't enough. So in a way, the sex industry

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Speaker 2: gave me that feeling of you know, people want to

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Speaker 2: know when you've broken and someone cheats on you whatever

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Speaker 2: you feel worthless, you know.

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Speaker 3: So you said something before, but you gave him a

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Speaker 3: lot of sex, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, emphasis on a lot. By the way, he's hearing

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Speaker 1: this a lot.

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Speaker 3: You've got a lot of to me.

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Speaker 1: I want some money later.

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Speaker 3: But did you change the way you had sex when

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Speaker 3: you started in the industry or the way you performed

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, the way you play the around?

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Speaker 3: Did it change?

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Speaker 2: Well? Not really, because I was I was always into

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Speaker 2: I guess performing and so far you know known to me,

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Speaker 2: he's going for the brothels, so he's getting that experience anyway,

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Speaker 2: so he's encouraging me to be like that.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know, all outfits and all stuff.

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Speaker 3: So he was asking for this, yeah, but I.

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Speaker 2: Was anyways, I loved it, so I was like, yay,

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Speaker 2: little don't know that I was feeding his addiction more so.

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Speaker 1: So, I guess when you say, did it change?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely when you first start replaced like that, because it's

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Speaker 2: not normal, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: So it did change in I guess in a way.

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Speaker 3: Does it daunting some of your first claim?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely, I reckon.

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Speaker 3: I can you still remember that first claim? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I was panicked?

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Speaker 3: Yes, did you look at him. It's like, how did

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Speaker 3: you how did you do your fast? Like I'm not

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Speaker 3: meaning how did you do him? How did you?

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Speaker 1: How did you?

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Speaker 3: I want to listen to the episode in full, click

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Speaker 3: the link in the description.

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