1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Now there's going to be a rally on the steps 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: of Parliament tomorrow Budget Day. Tomorrow budgets out at three 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: pm is when we'll know what is in it, and 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: a bit earlier in the day at eleven the Adelaide 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Parklands Association will be there concerned about the fate of 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: potentially six hundred trees in the North Adelaide Golf Course. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: At the moment this is the area that will make 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: way or be adjusted for the live golf tournament. Shane 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Sody from the Adelaide Parklands Association on the line. Shane, 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: good evening, Thanks for your time. 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Good evening, Matthie, thanks for having us on what is 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: likely to happen. 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: So you've got some evidence that up to six hundred 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: trees may be under threat, may be gone. 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: Well, we're talking about an area. The North Adelaide Golf 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: Course is three of them, North Course, South Course and 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: the Part three course. They're on seventy hectares more or 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: less of what is known as Possum Park perlth Wardley 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Park one of the Adelaide Parklands, and not a lot 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: of people realize it's actually one of the most heavily 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: forested parts of the outlot Park plants, probably the most 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: heavily forested park. There are about nine thousand trees in 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: this park and they're home to more than one hundred species. 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: And we've had a UNI researcher who's been doing some 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: work there trying to work out what would happen if 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: the fairways were widened and lengthened, as the Premier says 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: they need to be to accommodate lift golf, and researchers 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: come up with the calculation and it is only a 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: rough approximation. Six hundred trees would have to go, So 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: out of nine thousand, maybe that's not many. The Premier 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: says the vast majority will be staying, and we're prepared 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: to take him in his word on that, but six 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: hundred is a heck of a lot, and most a 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: lot of these trees are one hundred years old or 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: thereabouts and habitat for a lot of species. The question is, 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: I guess, if you're wanting to stage an event that 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: only lasts for three days, how many trees should have 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: to die to accommodate that event? 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: All right, So based on the estimation that you've done 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: six hundred trees, what if that's way above what the 41 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: government's planning. 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: Well, it could be a lot. That could be an 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: underestimate because we're talking about areas. I just got to 44 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: get rid of that sound. We're talking about an event 45 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: where the elite golfers hit the ball a lot further 46 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: and behind every green there is a whole or always 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: trees behind every green that helps the golfers work out 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: where the where the hole is. So the trees behind 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: every green would have to be chopped down. So six 50 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: hundred out of nine thousand is probably well. I mean, 51 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: I'm not the guy that did the research. The research 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: was done by a final year UNI student who is 53 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: doing environmental protection and environmental management. 54 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if saying final year UNI student gives 55 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: it any more cred though. 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: No, well no, And you know he's basing this on 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: and a plan that the city council had six years 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: ago to do pretty much the same thing, and he's 59 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: overlaid that over the city council's tree map, where all 60 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: the trees on most of the parks are identified. So 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: it's quite easy to see if you're going to biden 62 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: or lengthen tairways, which trees are going to have to 63 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: go so he's going to be pretty well on the mark. 64 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: And he's talking about seventy seven river red gums, sixty 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: eight blue gums, more than one hundred sugar gums, and 66 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: more than three hundred trees of other species. So there's that. 67 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: And then of course he hasn't taken into accounts the 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: likelihood or the more than likely or the almost certainty 69 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: that a whole lot of new buildings will be required 70 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: to turn this into a play thing for multi millionaire 71 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: fly in flyer golfers, and the need to put in 72 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: new car parks and genually roads to the new car 73 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: parks a lot of an. 74 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: Area you'd be aware, Shane. Though, when a government makes 75 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: up its mind is going to do something, nothing stands 76 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: in the way. So how do you stop them demolishing 77 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: these trees? Are you're planning to chain yourselves to them 78 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: if it comes to that, Well, for a. 79 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: Start, at eleven o'clock tomorrow morning at Parliament House we'll 80 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: be inviting people to stand up for this park. The 81 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: title of the rally is Protect Possum Park. And I 82 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: think perhaps the premiere might not appreciate the extent to 83 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: which Adelaide people value the Adelaide Park plant. It is 84 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: in fact the only city in the world with a 85 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: built inside of parks. You put that around the other 86 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 2: way of Stone Park in the world with the city 87 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: inside it has got national heritage, this thing. And this 88 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: is a clash values because it would appear that the 89 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: premiere and his ministers see the Adelaide Parklans as an 90 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: area which is ripe for commercialization, for building things, for 91 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: getting money in, for having short term events, whereas a 92 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: lot of other people value the Adelaide Park Plans as 93 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: a haven of biodiversity, a peaceful, calm, world unique park. 94 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: It would still be that, but just with fewer trees. 95 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: Well indeed, and that comes back to the question how 96 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 2: many trees should have to die in order to create 97 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: an event for three days to attract multimillionaire five fo golfers. 98 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: Did we get rid of trees for the Formula one 99 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: back in the day in Victoria Park? 100 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I don't know. It's a long time 101 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: ago Formula one started, I think not in eighty five. 102 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah it did. 103 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder because there's one big gum tree still 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: there in the middle and the grandstand gets built around it, 105 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: and I wonder if there were many more there at 106 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: the time, and did we not object to them going. 107 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: Well, Victoria Park is the largest park within the Adelaide 108 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: park Lands. But the park we're talking about now, Possum 109 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: Park fell to Wardley, is the second largest park and 110 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: it is by far more heavily tread than Victoria Park 111 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: has been. It's got so many trees of so many 112 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: different species, habitat for over a hundred different species in 113 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: that park, and you wouldn't appreciate it, I think unless 114 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: you went up in a helicopter or a drone or flew. 115 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: A lot of people fly over it. If you're coming 116 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: in or out of Adelaide, the trees there, it is 117 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: a really it's an urban forest. 118 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: So toy chainsaws tomorrow on the steps of Parliament House 119 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: to get them. It's almost like a razor gang on 120 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: Budget Day. 121 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, there are any toy chain saws. I 122 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 2: don't want the security of Parliament House to get worried 123 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: that we might be marching in with anything lethal. To 124 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: make a point. It's to symbolize because when the government 125 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: comes for the trees in Boston Park, they won't be 126 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: toy ones. They'll be real ones. And trees will be 127 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: getting chopped down to you know, basically decimate trees that 128 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: are over one hundred years old with all that habitat, 129 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: and for what to cater for millionaire five fo superstar golfers. 130 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: And you've got to ask yourself the question, you know, well, 131 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: how many trees should have to die in order to 132 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: create the playground for a three day event? 133 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: How many people are you expecting tomorrow? 134 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's a good question, Matthew. I really am not sure. 135 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: It could be five, could be five thous We'll have 136 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: to wait and see, but I think some of them 137 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: will be. I know from talking to your quite a 138 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: few people. They're really upset that the government seems to 139 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: be treating the Adelaide park Lands as this plaything for 140 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: multimillionaire Fifoux golfers rather than as the very very valuable, 141 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: totally unique urban park. It's got National Heritage listing, all. 142 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: Right, Shane. We'll see what happens tomorrow and into the future. 143 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: Obviously this when when's the government going to make a 144 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: decision on it. It's got to be imminent, I suppose, 145 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: because well it's not next year. 146 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: The year after the premier made the decision back in 147 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: February and has been planning what exactly is going to happen. 148 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,119 Speaker 2: And when you ask, you know, what's going to happen, 149 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: what trees? How many fences you know? And so on, 150 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: the Premier deflects all those questions and says, wait until 151 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: the designs are released. Well, we're not waiting for the 152 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: designs to be released because we're not haggling. We don't 153 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: need to haggle over you know, should the fairway go 154 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: here or should the fairway go there? Should the massive 155 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: new building be here or there? We've got fundamental difference 156 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: in values. This is a clash of objectives, a clash 157 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: of values. What are parks for? Are they for short 158 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: events for multi millionaire fifho golfers or are they valuable 159 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: as parks? 160 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: All right, Shane, good luck tomorrow. 161 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: Thanks Matthew, thank you for your time. 162 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: Shane Sodi from the Adelaide Parklands Association a rally on 163 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,119 Speaker 1: the steps of State Parliament tomorrow at eleven to hopefully 164 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: save They estimate six hundred trees that will go as 165 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: part of the Live Golf redevelopment or redesign of the 166 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: golf courses for live golf through North Adelaide Possum Park. 167 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: So if you care about the trees, if you've got 168 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: a point of view on it, well that's the place 169 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: to be if you think they should stay