WEBVTT - Trump's ICE crackdown in Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 1>It is unlike anything I've ever experienced before. You have

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<v Speaker 1>these federal agents and unmarked vehicles, big trucks, SUVs, pickup trucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Their faces are covered, they're wearing camouflage and helmets and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, And it is an omnipresent part of

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<v Speaker 1>daily life in certain parts of the city. Road now

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic leaders of Minnesota slamming the Trump administration of reports

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<v Speaker 1>of planned immigration enforcement targeting Somollians and the Twin Cities.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason de Russia lives and works as a radio host

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<v Speaker 2>in Minneapolis, Minnesota. In the past three weeks, he's watched

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<v Speaker 2>as his city has been transformed into a battleground after

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<v Speaker 2>Trump sent thousands of ice agents onto the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>So they are here, and it's very different from the

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<v Speaker 1>vibe with local police or are marked vehicles. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>wearing masks, and people are using whistles to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>alert the surrounding area that immigration authorities are there. So

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the city you have this kind of cacophony of whistling.

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<v Speaker 1>People are angry, they feel betrayed by the federal government.

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<v Speaker 2>The city's become the epicenter of Trump's hardline immigration crackdown.

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<v Speaker 2>As he ramps up efforts to round up and deport

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<v Speaker 2>ten million people, promising the largest deportation in US history.

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<v Speaker 1>Just people who are here illegally, who are being grabbed up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's if your skin isn't white, you are being questioned

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes you're being detained.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Nicole Johnston and you're listening to seven am today

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<v Speaker 2>WCCO host Jason to Russia on the revenge driving Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>obsession with Minneapolis. It's Wednesday, January twenty eighth. Jason, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Alex Preddy. Who was he and tell us

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<v Speaker 2>about what happened to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Alex pretty and his shooting will go down

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<v Speaker 1>as the turning point for this. Alex Freddy was a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven year old intensive care nurse. He like men people,

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<v Speaker 1>especially younger people, was out there actively sort of observing.

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<v Speaker 3>He was agitating.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps we don't know the full encounter, but what we

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<v Speaker 1>know from the videos is he was trying to come

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<v Speaker 1>to the rescue of a woman who was shoved by

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<v Speaker 1>an ICE agent. The ICE agents surrounded him, sprayed him

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<v Speaker 1>with pepper spray, pulled him to the ground. They were

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<v Speaker 1>all over him, and one agent pulled a handgun that

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to be in his waist holster. In Minnesota, you can,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have the right license, legally carry a handgun,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did have the right license. But then ICE

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<v Speaker 1>agents fired shot after shot after shot and killed him

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<v Speaker 1>in the hours afterwards. It's the federal government said that

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<v Speaker 1>he was intending to do maximum damage for PREDI.

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<v Speaker 4>The Department of Homeland Security claimed he approached the US

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<v Speaker 4>Border Patrol officers with a nine millimeter semi automatic handgun,

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<v Speaker 4>violently resisted attempts to be disarmed, and wanted to do

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<v Speaker 4>maximum damage and massacre.

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<v Speaker 1>Law enforcement, you know, portraying him like he was some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of intended assassin of the ICE agents, when the

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<v Speaker 1>video showed just the opposite. And so the combination of

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<v Speaker 1>the shock of his killing and the lies was really

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<v Speaker 1>a tipping point where a lot of Minnesotans who have

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<v Speaker 1>been on the sideline have come forward and said no more.

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<v Speaker 5>So.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had all of these different accounts about what actually happened.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it that the local authorities are saying.

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<v Speaker 1>The state here is trying to do their own investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>But when state investigators showed up on the scene, the

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<v Speaker 1>federal in investigators refuse to allow them entry, refused to

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<v Speaker 1>allow them to preserve the crime scene, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple hours later, every it is gone. And you think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a journalist for more than twenty five years

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<v Speaker 1>and I've covered plenty of law enforcement involved shootings, and

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<v Speaker 1>usually it's taped off and blocked off for blocks, investigated

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty four hours on the scene. Here they were

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<v Speaker 1>gone by a couple hours, and the FEDS didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>let the state people in, and instead you have an

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<v Speaker 1>administration that is pronouncing judgment two hours afterwards and telling

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<v Speaker 1>you that the guy who was killed is the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lack of trust right where if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't trust.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that lack of trust has been building for weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't the first violence or even the first death

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<v Speaker 2>we've had in Minneapolis. So how did we get here?

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<v Speaker 1>We saw these videos over and over of random stops.

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<v Speaker 6>A terrified woman flees two men in masks. It's not

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<v Speaker 6>a mugging. She's an American citizen being chased by Ice

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<v Speaker 6>agents who think she's here illegally.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a teenager stopped at a gas station just

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<v Speaker 1>because of the color of his skin.

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't votal.

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<v Speaker 3>But then there was another shooting.

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<v Speaker 7>Renee Good appears calm as she speaks to the officer.

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<v Speaker 7>When another ICE officer orders her out of the car.

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<v Speaker 7>She then turns her steering wheel to the right and

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<v Speaker 7>begins to drive and three shots ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, so that really escalated things to another level. But now,

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<v Speaker 1>within you know, three weeks, two people have been killed

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets of Minneapolis. The immigration surge here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fair to as an outsider, to say,

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<v Speaker 1>why were they focused on Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 3>Minneapolis shares a border with Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>When you think about illegal immigration, you don't think Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 1>is the headquarters of this. You have to bear in

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<v Speaker 1>mind that right now in our city there are three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand federal agents, ICE agents, Border patrol agents. The city

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<v Speaker 1>of Minneapolis has six hundred police officers, three thousand federal

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<v Speaker 1>agents who are here who are not here before, compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the normal police force of six hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason, you said before that the focus on Minneapolis suggests

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<v Speaker 2>that this isn't just about cracking down on immigration. So

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<v Speaker 2>what is it really about.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's about retribution.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's about power, It's about showing that you

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<v Speaker 1>have the power and the full force of the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>Is just a way to settle a score. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like to people here.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up why Trump wants payback, Jason, can you tell

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<v Speaker 2>me more about why Trump has targeted Minneapolis in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>It all goes back to a longstanding of argument that

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<v Speaker 1>the President of the United States has had with the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Minnesota. So, first of all, he lost his

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<v Speaker 1>campaign for president in the state three times, and he

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<v Speaker 1>believes that that's because of fraud, and he thinks part

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<v Speaker 1>of that fraud was people who were here illegally who

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<v Speaker 1>were voting for his opponent. Our state Governor Tim Walls

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<v Speaker 1>ran for vice president with Kamala Harris against Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and Jade Vancid. I think some of the beef stems

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<v Speaker 1>from that the President publicly posted on truth social that

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota would see retribution. But then the more immediate aftermath

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<v Speaker 1>was a scandal in Minnesota where there was more than

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<v Speaker 1>a billion dollars of fraud discovered in social services welfare

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<v Speaker 1>type benefits that the state administered federal money. And most

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who had been charged by the US

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney are Somali Americans. But that gave an opening to say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to send in all these troops and clean

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<v Speaker 1>up the illegal immigrant fraud.

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<v Speaker 8>Minnesota is a train wreck. It is corrupt, and it

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<v Speaker 8>was under the leadership of Governor Walls in this mayor

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<v Speaker 8>that they allowed it to happen, and they let criminals in,

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<v Speaker 8>illegals and people abuse programs and steal the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the controversy of being here in Minneapolis is

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<v Speaker 1>if you were really trying to get a large number

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<v Speaker 1>of undocumented illegal people out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not a huge city.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not even in the top ten of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>cities in the country that they believe have undocumented immigrants.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is been their mission, go get as many

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<v Speaker 1>as you can and get them out. And there was

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<v Speaker 1>reporting over the weekend that there is an incentive system

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<v Speaker 1>set up where ICE agents are getting bonuses for people

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<v Speaker 1>that they arrest. They're not getting bonuses for successful cases,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're getting bonuses for grabbing people up.

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<v Speaker 2>So what kind of tactics are they using to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of what's happening is that immigration authorities are going

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<v Speaker 1>to workplaces and auditing their paperwork, and frankly, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of People who are skeptical of mass immigration arrests often

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<v Speaker 1>say like, well, why aren't you going to after the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are hiring people who are here illegally. The

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<v Speaker 1>effort that's gotten more attention is the fact that there

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<v Speaker 1>are video encounters of sort of these random You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you follow the agents, they'll pull you over. If

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<v Speaker 1>I continually see you following us, interfering with us, honking

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<v Speaker 1>your horns, blocking our cars.

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<v Speaker 5>You have a very high probability of making a really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Decision and being arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look brown or black, they'll pull you over,

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<v Speaker 1>pull you out of the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Roughy up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just very like it feels like it's out of

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties kind of rough and tough kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cop stuff, so very aggressive and sort of violent interactions.

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<v Speaker 1>You have certain pockets that have higher concentration of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Latino immigrants or Somali immigrants or Asian immigrants, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they have been focusing in those areas at times, going

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<v Speaker 1>door to door, pulling people out of cars. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are rules of engagement on these things that used

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<v Speaker 1>to be followed, and now it seems that anything is

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<v Speaker 1>up for grabs. The way they've been acting here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very troubling and it does have a large number of

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<v Speaker 1>people here afraid, afraid to leave their house, afraid they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be snatched up and detained. The new mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of the city of Saint Paul has to carry her

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<v Speaker 1>passport card around with her because she is a refugee,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she has to have her papers with her.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's this, I don't know what it's like in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>If if show me your papers is something that people

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<v Speaker 1>would expect, but it's not what we expect.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not how things are done.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jason, we had the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, writing

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<v Speaker 2>to the governor over the weekend urging a change of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you tell us about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Her letter was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of things where she was laying

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<v Speaker 1>out were ingredients that would lead to an end to

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<v Speaker 1>the ice surge in Minneapolis. She was demanding cooperation and

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<v Speaker 1>then she wanted the voter roles from Minnesota. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is something the federal government has been asking for private

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<v Speaker 1>voter information. And the President, in this obsession that the

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<v Speaker 1>election was rigged against him in Minnesota, wants to look

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<v Speaker 1>into the voter roles in this state. Today, the governor

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<v Speaker 1>and the mayor mini Sapolis both talked to the President

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States. This is something that should have

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<v Speaker 1>happened months ago, but finally happened today. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good sign. But I do think that the

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<v Speaker 1>President of the United States knows that he's losing support,

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<v Speaker 1>and he does not want to lose support, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I do expect there will be some way by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this week that the Trump administration can say

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<v Speaker 1>mission accomplished, we got five thousand undocumented whatever they want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, but they'll take a win, and the local

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<v Speaker 1>leaders will take a win too, and they'll say we

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<v Speaker 1>got them out of here, so everybody gets a win,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we could move forward. And we've seen quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of movement in Minneapolis, in fact, on this day,

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<v Speaker 1>where the outspoken commander of the Border Patrol who's been

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<v Speaker 1>the public face of this whole effort, is being replaced.

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<v Speaker 5>CBS News has learned that Bovino is departing Minneapolis imminently,

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<v Speaker 5>as are many other cvps, and well Vino at least

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<v Speaker 5>has been relieved of his command in Minneapolis. He remains

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<v Speaker 5>in charge of operations across the country of the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>And so is that a step towards some sort of resolution.

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<v Speaker 3>Perhaps.

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<v Speaker 1>I do expect that this will wind down, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see the political tides are turning, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jason, finally, on a personal level, how does it

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<v Speaker 2>feel to be watching all of this happen in your

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<v Speaker 2>home city?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's exhausting, it is heavy. We do not

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<v Speaker 1>like being the center of the world's attention. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been my home for more than twenty years, and it's heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>But this place always has had an activist bent and

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<v Speaker 1>a social justice bent, and there's an idea here that

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<v Speaker 1>if you raise your voice, that you can affect change.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do have hope that people will see the

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<v Speaker 1>good here and not just focus on some of the

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<v Speaker 1>images that they've seen. The President has seen that these

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<v Speaker 1>tactics generate this sort of activity, so it's almost impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to have this sort of full, aggressive, in your face

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<v Speaker 1>tough guys coming to town were enforcing immigration laws without

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<v Speaker 1>the anger, without a shooting. So I am optimistic that

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<v Speaker 1>things got so bad here that it will prevent this

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<v Speaker 1>from happening in other cities.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason, thank you so much for sharing all of this with.

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<v Speaker 3>Us my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Also in the news, allies of Opposition leader Susan Lee

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<v Speaker 2>have declared their support amid growing speculation about her leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>The coalition split last week after Susan Lee accepted the

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<v Speaker 2>resignation of three National shadow ministers who defied official coalition

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<v Speaker 2>policy and voted against new hate laws in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>Shadow Attorney General Andrew Wallace and Liberal frontbencher Tim Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>of both denied rumors that anyone within the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 2>is mounting a leadership challenge, and a thirty one year

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<v Speaker 2>old man has been charged after a home made explosive

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<v Speaker 2>device was thrown into a crowd of people at an

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<v Speaker 2>Invasion Day rally in central Perth. Officers evacuated a crowd

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<v Speaker 2>of around two thousand people from Perth CBD on Monday

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<v Speaker 2>after a device containing explosive liquid, ball bearings and screws

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<v Speaker 2>was found but did not detonate. The device was taken

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<v Speaker 2>for preliminary testing by police forensics teams. I'm Nicole Johnston.

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<v Speaker 2>This is seven a m. Thanks for listening

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<v Speaker 5>And