WEBVTT - Credlin | 24 August 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.280 Peto Quedlin live from New twenty four. 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.680 Good evening, Welcome to the program, kicking up for another 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:13.160 week here on Credline. Here's what's coming up on the 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.800 program tonight. Another migration mess from One Nation rookie David 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.560 Farley today claiming that the party's immigration plans about the 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.840 same as Labors that was yesterday morning. Will not so, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.880 says Pauline Hanson. Farley's causing her a headache over what 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.000 will be the big issue at the next election. And 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.160 this is why it's a big issue. New figures today 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:39.559 revealing eighty six percent of Melbourne's post pandemic population growth 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:44.199 has come from overseas migration. Labour's importing people faster than 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.800 we can build homes, infrastructure and have the jobs to 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:52.000 support them. I'll speak with Opposition leader Angus Taylor. The 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.360 un special rapp manteur on women and Girls says Australia's 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.320 gender policies are absolutely out of step and calls for 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.720 an overhaul all the Sex Discrimination Act and a senior 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:07.399 pediatrician facing a complaint for speaking out on gender medicine, 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.480 Professor Gary Gilhold joins me later in the program, and 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:15.320 the Prime Minister today out, talking tough on anti Semitism 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.120 and underscoring the work of the Royal Commission, but stopping 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:22.080 short of answering the calls to extend it. Quick listen 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.600 to this, quick to call out neo Nazis, but nothing 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.759 again on radical. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:33.600 Islam twenty years ago when we're discussing neo Nazis, we 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:38.800 are now. It is of real concern and any Semetism 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:40.880 has no place, thanks very much. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.360 Yeah, it doesn't like doesn't like the word radical Islam 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.360 or the words radical Islam. Does He will get to 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.280 that in a moment. First, on Wednesday this week, the 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.240 Prime Minister will chair a meeting and National Cabinet on 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:59.080 the agenda is the issue of violence against women and girls. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.360 And all this meeting has even been held, we know 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.760 what the outcome will be. More millions thrown at the problem, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:12.400 More tough sounding language from the politicians, tough language and hypocrisy, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.960 particularly coming from the Prime Minister, because on this Anthony 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.920 Albanese is a fraud. For weeks and weeks, Albanese refused 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.680 to confront the fallout from that crude podcast where he 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.320 humiliated the Japanese Prime Minister and his own recently married 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:34.000 wife those groping breast gestures and shagging comments. But then 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.560 suddenly on Thursday night he turns up on the ABC 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:43.520 acting all remorseful in relation to that, what did you learn? 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:48.560 Well, I learned that I need to do better every 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:53.480 day and of course if I have the time again, 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.880 which you don't, then I wouldn't have done that podcast. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.640 You know, we have a view which is trying to 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:05.560 talk to as many people as possible. But clearly that 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.480 was an error. 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:13.239 Now remember this wasn't organized by his office. A comedian 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:17.480 slid into his DM started following him online and he 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.640 started messaging her. That's how it all happened. And the 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:24.239 Prime Minister had just had two weeks in the parliament 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:29.200 to be contrite. So what changed by Thursday night? Was 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.320 it because Alban Easy or his office got a tip 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.320 off that the AFL players at the center of the 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:40.440 City Swan scandal allegedly joked about quote having done an 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.840 elbow with the women now accusing them of assault. Is 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:49.840 that why? Because Labour knew that the weekend's front page 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.920 about doing an elbow was coming. Well here is more 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.320 of that report published in the Herald Sign on Saturday, 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:00.000 and it reads as the lights dimmed, the music was crazy, 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.840 and the early morning degenerated footballers are alleged to have 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:11.040 jokingly referenced Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's controversial melon's gestures about 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:15.360 Japan's first female prime minister while they were taking lap 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:21.080 dancers doing an elbow. They allegedly called it. Now, as 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.320 I've said here before, not every case of disrespect against 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:29.120 women ends in violence, but every case of violence starts 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:35.200 with disrespect. Remember Albanese's conduct and the way it's already 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.440 been picked up allegedly by footballers. When he lectures us 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:44.120 on Wednesday about violence against women and how we all 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.280 must do better. Well, yes we should, Australia, but the 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.560 Prime Minister is in no place to lecture anyone. His 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.000 treatment of women in that podcast has now become notorious. 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.640 His words about women and girls will they are hollow 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.680 and trying to high behind his female colleagues rather than 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:08.120 simply apologizing, is gutless and weak, so to their willingness 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:14.839 to be conscripted to defend the indefensible. I completely disagree 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.800 with that interpretation. It is one hundred percent wrong. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:22.160 The Liberals have absolutely lost the plot trying to perpetuate 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:30.039 this ridiculous, this ridiculous thing. Look, sure, elite privileged sportsmen 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.200 women too should set an example, but so too should 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.960 elite privileged politicians. And when they get it wrong, as 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:42.920 Albanezi did, they should apologize. Now the footballers have apologized, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:47.000 they've been stood down for allegedly doing an elbow, amongst 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:51.800 other claims, an albow will still no apology to the 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:56.920 Japanese Prime Minister, as he keeps trying to brazen it out. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.080 More today too. On the Albanezer government's cruel cut to 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:09.240 health services for veterans, Opposition leader Angus Taylor has now 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.520 formally written to the Prime Minister asking him to intervene 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.080 and scrap the new five thousand dollars cap, saying that 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.960 the Coalition would support this move without reservation, said Taylor. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.040 The cap is also at odds with the lessons of 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.599 the Royal Commission into Defense and Veterans' Suicide. The Royal 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:31.240 Commission made one hundred and twenty two recommendations. Cap on 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.240 veterans allied healthcare was not one of them. Instead, it 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.880 called for timely and accessible care and fewer barriers for 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.640 veterans seeking support. Now, as we go to wear tonight 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.600 the Liberal leaders on the annual Polypedal charity bike ride. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.760 This year it's in North Queensland and as well as 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.880 raising money to support veterans, the charity of this year 0:06:55.040 --> 0:07:01.920 is Wounded Warriors. Taylor's riding alongside former and current military personnel. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.239 As he says is in his letter to alban Easy, 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.680 I've spoken with veterans and their families who are deeply 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.840 worried about what this cap will mean for them. They 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.560 are simply asking for the care they were promised for 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.600 injuries and conditions they carry because they served our country. 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.840 And Angus Taylor makes a very obvious point there are 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.200 five better places to find budget savings than the healthcare 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.640 of Australians who have worn our nation's uniform and the 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:33.240 families that have supported them. Will cross lived Angus Taylor 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.320 on the road a little later in the show. But 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.120 veterans groups, well, they're only getting louder in their condemnation 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.080 of this move to limit their access to health support, 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.000 and if you can join their fight, I really encourage 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.960 you to head to their website fair Care for Veterans 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.880 dot com dot au and show your support because, believe me, 0:07:53.680 --> 0:08:02.440 this battle has just started and look. Finally, more calls 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.600 today for the Royal Commission into the Bondo massacre to 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:09.080 be extended, including from New South Wales Premier Labour's Chris Mins. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.400 If we need to go a couple of weeks longer, 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:17.480 given that most of the expense was spent setting it up, 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.560 that would seen to be money well spent, because both 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.400 the federal and and the state government are relying on 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.320 these recommendations to shape some of our policy. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.080 Now today the Prime Minister has been reluctant to say 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:34.160 much at all here. Not surprising, after all, he had 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.240 to be dragged kicking and screaming to hold the Royal 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.160 Commission in the first place. But having been involved in 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.560 a few Royal commissions before I started working in the media, 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.360 I want to put this one into a bit of 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.880 context for you if I can. The twenty fourteen Royal 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.560 Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption will that ran 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.320 for twenty months. The Royal Commission into Defense and Bedwoods 0:08:55.320 --> 0:09:00.360 Suicide established July twenty twenty one, final report hand down 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.920 three years later September twenty twenty four. The twenty eighteen 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.720 Aged Care Royal Commission handed down its final report two 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.920 and a half years later in March twenty twenty one. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:17.679 The Royal Commission into the Banking, super and Financial Services Industry, Well, 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:22.040 that was fourteen months long. The Disability Royal Commission, well, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.760 that ran for four and a half years. The Royal 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:30.240 Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse that was 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:36.200 a mammoth, mammoth, five year long inquiry, six commissioners in total. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.960 If the Bondi Royal Commission stays to the timeline set 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.960 up by Anthony Albanizi, it will run from January to 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:49.520 December this year. Now that's not even one full year. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.840 Eleven months to work out how fifteen people could be 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.480 slaughtered as they were, and how on earth we stop 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:02.000 it ever happening again in less than a year, How 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.920 we deal with due hate that is anti Semitism, how 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.559 we confront the threat of radical Islam, and what we 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.440 must do to keep Australian safe. All of that in 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.600 eleven months. What works, what doesn't work, Whether systems and 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:22.280 authorities have failed us as clearly they did last year again, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.960 all wrapped up, done and dusted in eleven months. So 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.920 you can see the calls to extend this anti Semitism 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.600 and Royal commission or they make good sense, and they're 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.840 also the precedent. There you saw, all those are the 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.120 royal commissions. They've all gone a hell of a lot 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.560 longer than this one. What also concerns me too are 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:47.760 the people who are yet to be called to give evidence, 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:53.640 people like Anthony Alban easy and individuals like this. 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.320 Smiling and I'm happy. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.760 It's a day of courage. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.320 I want him in the dock. I want him under 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.800 oath giving evidence. I want every other hate preacher we 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:14.600 can named exposed put in the stand. Beyond the politicians 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.560 who on that day of tragedy were in charge. I 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:22.400 want Australia's Islamic leaders their front and center. Too often 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:26.480 they are silent even when atrocities occur in the name 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:32.400 of Islam. Their condemnation, if it comes, is slow. Right 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.000 now in this country, the federal government is spending over 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:39.959 one hundred and forty million dollars on programs to prevent radicalization. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:45.520 And I want to know where these Islamic organizations spend 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.400 the money they get, the money they get to run 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.000 these programs, as some of them do, and I want 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.960 to know the results that we get as taxpayers for 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.679 these millions We should not need to call for the 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.320 Royal Commission to be extended. It should already have happened. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.520 And if Commissioner Bell does it right to the Prime 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.559 Minister seeking an extension, well he should write to her 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.160 offering her one, as well as making it absolutely clear 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:23.320 that he is willing to appear not stupid, not easy, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.360 not hard. Let's get it done. Come on, let's go 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.520 out of cam for the headlines. Our reporter Cameron read 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.160 it good evening. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.679 On a trip to Western Australia. The Prime Minister has 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:38.319 categorically ruled out scaling back the state's generous GST deal. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:43.760 There will be no change to WAHGST arrangements. Whilst I'm 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:44.800 Prime Minister. 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.720 I think every Western Australian is both relieved and pleased 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.800 to hear the words from the Prime Minister today. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.480 One Nation is a game cleaning up after one of 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:56.880 its MPs. This time David Farley stands accused of freestyling 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.920 on the party's immigration policy. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:00.520 We're saying it needs to be the one hundred and 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.120 thirty thousand non plus about one hundred thousand more yeh 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:05.080 at a minimum. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.960 One Nation later clarifying its target for the norm or 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.400 net Overseas migration number is in fact one hundred and 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.200 thirty thousand flat, not the suggested two hundred and thirty. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.240 Look, I'll carry this around as long as I have to. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:18.600 Today. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.000 David certainly understands where he went wrong today and. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.319 That's just what happens, especially when when you're starting off 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:24.960 in politics. 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.800 Cameron Reddin News twenty four Canberra. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.160 We'll stay with that issue in the confusion, of course 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:36.640 created yesterday by David Farley and the mop up job 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.080 joining me in our new twenty fourth political contributor chrisy 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.400 Yillman Chris Barnaby there tries to put it down to inexperience, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.800 but you and I know Farley's history. He's run big 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:51.000 agricultural companies, He's done plenty of media and this isn't 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.400 the first time we've seen him at odds with Paul Enhansen. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.600 When I visited him during the bar election, filmed him 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:01.000 up there in the seat of Farah, I was out 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.880 on the edge of the immigration policy. He's a big 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:09.320 migration guy. Is this a policy ambiguity? If I could 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.400 call it that? Going to damage one nation? 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.120 Well, it hardly helps Peter and that's obvious from the 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.360 mop up job that we're seeing at the moment. Because 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.280 if there's one thing that you hear from everybody about 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.640 what they like about paul and Hanson, it is that 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.120 she has been consistent. You'll hear people say over and 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.080 again she said the same thing for the last thirty years. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.920 And one thing she's been adamant about is migration, that 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.120 there are too many, and she's also been adamant about 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.680 the mix being wrong, and this just adds to a 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.120 sense of confusion about what one nation's policy is. David 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.359 Farley is clearly an intelligent and reasonable guy and understands 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.040 that migration is a difficult thing to get a handle on. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:48.120 He needs overseas workers in his electorate to help pick 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.200 the fruit there. So what's happened, as we've seen, is 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.840 the growth of this party is going to become a 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.200 problem for Pauline Hanson because the more voices that she 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.720 gets in it, the more dissent that she'll get within it, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.000 and the Mortal start to look like an ordinary political party. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.000 There's some images of Farley getting cozy with the Prime 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.280 Minister in the chamber last week. Yesterday, in that interview 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.120 with David Spears, he was full of praise for the 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.520 Prime Minister, saying that they were working on a multi 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.280 million dollar bail art for Sunrise, the business that's in 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:21.400 his electorate. Have a listen. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:29.280 I was impressed how Albanzi at the Governor General's event 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:30.920 the other night came straight up to me and said, look, 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:32.760 I'm aware of it, I'm working on it. We'll get 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.360 it done. So he deviend the pan yep. Even after 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.200 as we left the chamber the other day, we spoke 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.000 all the way across to the Senate talking about it. 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:40.280 How could it be done and put together? 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.120 Come in, Spinner, I mean, Chris, you've seen this. Albert 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:49.960 Easy is a master at curring relationships with the disaffected. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.920 I mean Oakshott and Windsor. That was alban Easy's scalp 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.360 in that hung Parliament era. He had worked on them 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.280 for a long time. He's already had two defections to 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.080 Labor since he became Prime minister. Is that the game 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:03.840 at play here? 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.760 Well, I'll take you back to one more, Peter Slipper. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.520 He was one that coached Peter Slipper out of Liberal's 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.760 ranks and to make him the speaker and to make 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.960 life difficult for the opposition, so I'm sure that probably 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:17.400 is on the mind, so that the Prime Minister that 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.120 they might have a target there. I noticed the National 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.680 Party's been out and about saying that in the past 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.000 David David Falley had trailed his coat with the Labor Party. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.760 So certainly his opponents will be making the most of it, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.880 and again it causes headaches for one nation. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.760 Let's just mention Chris's documentary tomorrow night. It'll be straight 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.440 after this program, Fight for the Right seven o'clock here 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.680 on Sky, do not miss it. What about these reports 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.560 over the Herald Sign in the Herald Sign over the weekend. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.960 I mentioned them at the top of the show. Chris, 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.640 You've got this allegation now that the Swan's players were 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:56.040 in that room at the hotel, the paid entertainment. The 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.520 women were there doing their lap dance and the boys 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:04.040 were quote doing an elbow while they were receiving lap 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:07.359 dancers from the women. Apparently this relates to groping gestures 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.919 around their breasts and other things. I mean, I reckoning 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.879 he had a tip off here, because that was in 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.720 the papers on Saturday. Come Thursday night, we hadn't heard 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.720 anything from him. Crickets for weeks and weeks and weeks. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.400 He suddenly appears on the ABC saying I regret the podcast. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.760 I wish I'd done better. He didn't apologize, but he 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.040 almost got there. And I think this whole thing, if 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:38.760 it's now discussed by footballers behaving badly Chris, if that's 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.479 where we are, it's incredibly unbecoming for our prime minister. 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.879 Weok, Obviously, a little tiny bit of foresight's way better 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:49.240 than a lot of hindsight. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:50.240 And can I say I. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.679 Was overseas at the time the story broke about Kylie 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.240 Minogan and the Prime Minister, because the Brits, of course 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.720 are obsessed with Colin Minoga, not necessarily the Prime Minister. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.359 I thought, where on earth did that come up? How 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.320 does the Prime Minister even get engaged in that kind 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:04.879 of conversation. So I did look it up and I 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.480 did see that it was on a podcast called bush Deep. 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.760 Now that I would say is that the Missus Slocum 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.800 end of comedy, look, the my Pussy end of comedy, 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.240 the Benny Hill end of comedy. So if you could 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.720 not work out beforehand that that was a podcast that 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.280 the Prime Minister should not necessarily be on then you 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.960 weren't really showing a lot of insights. So I would 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.480 say that the sin there is one of commission, not 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.440 one of our mission. It's not one of hindsight, it's 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.879 one of foresight. But I think if the Prime Minister 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.040 I had thought at the end of his time his 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.359 legacy would be doing an elbow, he'd hope that might 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.160 be saving Australia, perhaps from some crisis. Perhaps it might 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.440 be or I don't know, fighting a war and saving Australia, 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.960 or saving the economy, or making Australia a better place. 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.280 I don't think he did hope that his legacy would 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.720 be doing an albow meant juggling melons. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.480 You know what, I don't understand this part of it. 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.959 Chris So he didn't have to do that podcast. It 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.080 wasn't like he was it frontier, a political interview that 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:02.760 you know they have to go in the lions Den 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.520 occasionally in campaign periods. He didn't have to do it. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.320 He sorted out. He dm this woman. He gets out there, 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.960 but even when she asks the questions at a tawdry 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.280 like that, he doesn't have to answer them. He could 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:15.760 have said, look, I'm going to leave that there. I'm 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.080 not going to answer that question. They do it routinely 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:19.840 if they don't want to talk about debt numbers, if 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.399 they don't want to talk about a botched announcement. You know, 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:24.960 they do it all the time with you, with me 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.280 and other and others in the media. Why he felt 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.400 it was necessary to answer these questions and to go 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.359 where he did, staggers me. 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.119 Not very hip, though, is it Peter to go on 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.520 a podcast which has got really one aim in life, 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.159 which is to deal in this sense of humor, and 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.720 then not play along with the game. So the problem 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.760 is that once you are in that environment, you have 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.639 to play along with the game, otherwise your gain to 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:53.160 look pretty undergraduately answered, absolutely, it is, which is why 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.560 he should never have been there in the first place. So, 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.000 and it was clearly his decision to be there. Somebody 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.520 had to organize, someone had to organize the lot right 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.560 to get the camera crew in there to do this podcast. 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.280 So it was with eyes wide open that this was 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.600 engaged in and the outcome is now there for everyone 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:11.200 to see. 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.320 Yeah, it should be hung around his neck. Christianeman, thank 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.879 you now to the staggering revelations over the weekend that 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:24.400 eighty six percent of Melbourne's post pandemic population growth has 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:29.360 come from overseas migration, the numbers revealing that our arrivals 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:34.240 are outstripping local births four to one. It comes in 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.080 boundary pressure for the Albanezer government to finally reveal it's 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.760 rebooted policy on migration that was due for release. It's 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.440 almost a month ago. Now, come on, Tony Burke, haven't 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.359 seen a thing? Joining us now to discuss this and 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:51.399 more on the road this moment now as part of 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:54.639 the Polypedal Ride, the charity bike ride, Opposition leader Angus 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.000 Taylor and the bloke who founded this ride some thirty 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.160 years ago. Goodness me, your old Toney have it. Welcome 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.439 to you both. I'll get back to the ride in 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.240 the moment if I can. Angus, I want to get 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.920 you to respond to supple a couple of issues that 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:15.199 are very timely today. David Farley, those comments about the 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:20.080 migration number, then that rebuke from Pauline Hansen, do we 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:21.760 know what their number is? 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:28.879 Well we can, I say Peter that our focus is 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.120 on getting rid of a rotten labor government that's led 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:35.040 Australians down on migration, and they're the ones who have 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.159 been absolutely all over the shop on migration since they 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.119 came to government back in twenty twenty two five hundred 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:45.200 and fifty thousand people. Any year when we've been sitting 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:49.480 on around two hundred thousand, the numbers have been too high, 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:51.000 the standards have been too low. 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.960 Both must change and can I. 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.960 Say, Peter, they have exceeded their targets every single time 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.919 they've lost control. There's clearly a big brawl going on 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:03.080 inside Labor. 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:04.919 They can't agree. 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.119 Frankly, the right answer is what we've laid out in 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.560 our plan to cap migration based on housing supply, bring 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:15.160 down the numbers substantially below two hundred thousand, as we've 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:18.119 talked about before, and make sure we raise the standards 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.240 and use Australian values as a screen who comes to 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:21.800 the country. 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:26.320 So your beef's less about David Farley getting a number 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.240 wrong and the mop up job in the last twenty 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:32.320 four hours, and more about the fact that Labor got forecasts, 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.919 they don't meet and they've got a minister in Tony 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:38.359 Burke that we're not hearing from. 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.120 Yeah, I mean, obviously they've got to sort that out. 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.480 But The real people who've got to sort out migration 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:47.840 policies is the Labor Party who failed Australians, absolutely failed Australians, 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:51.560 and right now they're clearly brawling within their team. Tony Burke, 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:55.240 Alban easy charmers, who knows, but they can't agree. And 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.760 that's why the numbers have consistently come in above target. 0:22:59.000 --> 0:22:59.960 The numbers are still. 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.520 Too high, the standards are too low, and we're all 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:03.560 paying the price. 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.679 Melbourne's post pandemic numbers. Though eighty six percent of our 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:12.040 growth from overseas, there's tool that. In practical terms, the 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.920 projections are that Melbourn's headed for population as high as 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:21.119 ten million. The state's basically bankrupt, it's drowning in dead 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:22.879 How is this sustainable, Angus. 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.439 Tod It's not, Peter, and that's why we need to 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:32.120 move from mass migration to traditional Australian skilled. 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:33.760 Migration, which has worked for this country. 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:37.040 We are a great immigrant nation, but that's worked because 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:39.439 we've brought people in with the skills we need. In 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.840 the numbers we can deal with making sure that we 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:45.520 don't bring people into the country where we don't have houses, 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:49.280 and we're bringing in the skilled people we need where 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:52.760 we've got gaps. Look, that's a long tradition since the 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.320 Second World War, Peter, and we've done it well. 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:56.720 We need to get back to that. 0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.439 And what you're talking about there in Melbourne is not 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.400 that it's even worse than that, Peter. The only thing 0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.320 growing the economy now is population growth. 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.160 That's a complete and utter failure, and. 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.480 That's why we need a plan to turn around the 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.159 economy to protect our way of life, and immigration is 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:13.760 central to that. 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:17.639 We'll talk to me about gas because energy is central 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:24.119 to the economy as well. You've announced to some parameters 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.240 if I can call them that today, about new deals 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:31.960 with states and territories to unlock gas supply. Tell us more. 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:34.120 Well. 0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.399 First and foremost, Peter, we've got to bring down the 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.800 cost of energy in this country, so we're not sending 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.720 industry offshore, and so we don't see what we've seen 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.639 in the last four years where the forty percent increase 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:45.960 in electricity prices. 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:47.920 To do that will scrap net zero. 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:52.000 But we'll also make use of the extraordinary natural resources 0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.919 we have in this country, the coal, the gas, the 0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:58.760 uranium and Matt Canavan and I announced today that we 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:02.760 will put pressure on state governments to approve projects using 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.520 those great natural resources we have. We see in Victoria 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:10.080 a complete unwillingness of the state government to use its 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.639 gas resources. Well, if they're going to continue with that 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:16.200 under a coalition government, there will be consequences. They won't 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.480 get access to the funding that they would otherwise get 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:21.399 if they're not prepared to make use of the natural 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:23.880 resources they need and their country needs. 0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:28.480 Right now, Tony Abott, you're on the polypedal ride. You 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.760 do this every year. You founded it, as I said 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:36.360 almost thirty years ago, Explain to my viewers why this 0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.920 was suction an important thing for you to create, when 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.520 you did, what motivated this to be developed, and how 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:45.400 much have you raised over the years. 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.520 Well, Peter, we started it back in nineteen ninety eight 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:54.280 because I thought back then there was a danger of 0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.040 us living in a Canberra bubble and losing touch with 0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:01.399 the real Australia. There's a sense in the real Australia 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.760 is outside of the big cities, and through this polypedal 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.480 bike ride we get to see parts of the country 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:12.320 where politicians don't usually go and lead people on their terms, 0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:13.360 not ours. 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.520 We've also been raising money for good causes. 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.560 For the last decade or so, it's been egg service charities, 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:25.120 first soldier on now wandering warriors and don't our special 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.480 forces soldiers need support at this time? 0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.119 Well, certainly they do, Angus. And I know you've written 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:36.440 to the Prime Minister. I've seen the letter. You want 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:40.359 him to step in. Now, step in and you push 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.560 mat Keo out of the way. Fix this cap, take 0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:47.000 away this budget hit on veterans. I know you're writing 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.280 with veterans. I know you in and out of ourselves 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.000 on this trip. What's been the response for veterans about 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:54.240 the events of last week. 0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.160 Oh, well they're angry, Peter, they're angry, and you can 0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:03.119 understand why they've fought for our country and they expect 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.959 us to fight for them. And rightly so, we've got 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.520 a minister who's got it wrong time and time again. 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.320 He's got it wrong on supporting the family of Cameron 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.119 Beird VC, he got it wrong on funding of the 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.800 Invictus Games, he got it wrong on the medallic recognition 0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.880 for veterans, and now he's got it wrong on this 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:24.280 cap on health services. Well the CAP's got to go, 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:26.520 but frankly, the Minister's got to go. 0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:27.920 To because he's not up to the job. 0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.720 The only thing this government has prepared to cut, the 0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:34.080 only spending they're prepared to cut, is spending on veterans, 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:34.920 and that's a disgrace. 0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:35.840 Is the disgrace? 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.600 All right? Where can people angus go to support this 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.240 if they've got the ability. 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:48.120 To do so, If they just type in polypedal Powie 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.439 polypedal into their search engine, they'll have a choice as 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.560 to who they want to support. 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.640 But all of it is going to the wandering warriors. 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.320 And the important point here is that's our special forces 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:03.520 veterans who, as Tony said, really need and deserve support 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:04.080 at this time. 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.560 And Angus and I are in a competition planners to 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.320 see who can raise the most money. 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:09.520 That's true. 0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.560 Well, I know you're at an RSL there, and I 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.160 suspect you both deserved a beer and that we people 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.800 wanting to speak to you, So thank you for speaking 0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:20.560 to me tonight, and all the best tomorrow. With your 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:23.760 your aging legs, I couldn't do what you're doing, so 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:24.639 all the very best. 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:27.000 There you go. 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.520 They're running something like one hundred and thirty kilometers a day, 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.919 so that's a serious bike ride and Tony didn't get 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.280 to the number, but I checked it out. Seven million. 0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.000 Seven million has been raised since it was founded all 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.400 those years ago, all right after the break. The pledge 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.440 from the Victorian Liberal leader that they will get tough 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:47.800 on sentencing, tough on court reform should they be elected 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:55.840 in November. Jess Wilson coming up, welcome back, coming out. 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.960 Calls for an overhaul of the Sex Discrimination Act get 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.600 louder the first. The Victorian Opposition has announced plans to 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.440 split the state's Court of Appeal into two if it 0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.080 wins or they've enber state election. A coalition says it 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.680 will establish a new Court of Criminal Appeal to ensure 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:16.600 that judges sit on that bench with backgrounds in criminal 0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:21.959 justice to handle sentencing reviews. It's very interesting joining me now, 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:25.360 a Victorian Opposition leader, Jess Wilson. Okay that the lawyer 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.000 in me loves this because this is real reform. Jess, 0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:33.360 me too. What's motivating this change? Because I know the 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.760 Law Institute of Victoria. They've come out and you've ruffled 0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.800 a few feathers. Why is this important? How does it 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:44.080 work now? And explain why your change will make it 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.720 better for Victorians. 0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.440 Right now we have one Court of Appeal that deals 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.400 with both civil matters and criminal matters. Our change is 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.520 to split that into and create a separate Court of 0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.840 Criminal Appeal to deal specifically with criminal matters, which will 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.560 mean we'll have to appoint new judges with criminal expertise. 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.280 That will essentially create new common law precedents, if you like, 0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.520 we're implementing and if we're elected this year, new adult 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.480 crime adult time laws, which will bring tough new laws 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.600 when it comes to sentencing for young offenders in particular, 0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.440 and we want to make sure that our criminal justice 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:23.320 system is actually working for Victorians, that is meeting those 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.880 community expectations, is accountable. I don't think at the moment 0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.760 that victorians think it is. We have a crime crisis 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:31.920 in this state. We have a revolving door of bail 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.840 under the Labor government, and too many young offenders in 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.160 particular are getting a slap on the wrist and not 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:39.920 understanding that there should be consequences for breaking the law. 0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.440 So this will change the way that our court system 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.160 operates to ensure that that common law precedent is being 0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.360 created for sentencing and it is filtering through the entire system. 0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.040 So the law Institute have said, and we've got this 0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:53.960 on the screen so people can read it. The moment 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:58.920 governments start telling courts what outcome to produce, you stop 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.560 having and independent judiciary. What would you say to. 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.760 That, Well, I'd say it's Parliament's job to make the law, 0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:07.000 it's judge's role. 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:08.360 To enforce the law. 0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.760 And this system has operated in New South Wales for 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.600 a century and it's operated well. This is a very 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:19.080 common sense decision that goes to structural reform of our 0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.680 criminal justice system to ensure that it is meeting community 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:26.320 expectations and it's actually ensuring that we're seeing victims at 0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.120 the center of our criminal justice system. At the moment, 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.680 I think that the pendulum has swung far too in 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.480 favor of the perpetrator, and this is something that will 0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:38.240 go alongside our bail reforms, our sentencing reforms, our plans 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.000 to put three thousand more police on the street, but 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.440 also to change the way we structure our criminal justice 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.520 system to ensure that it is meeting community expectations and 0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:47.280 it's accountable. 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.440 One thing people may not be aware of too is 0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.480 most of the benchmost of the judges tend to come 0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.800 out of the commercial civil area of law very if 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.080 you come out of criminal law. But they could find 0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:02.760 themselves in cases where they're required to have an understanding 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.320 and knowledge of the criminal law in this state. I'm 0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.160 sure they can read it. That's not from where they've come. 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.800 That's right, and judges will be appointed as they are 0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:14.600 now on merit. The independence of our judiciary is so important, 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.280 as you know the separation of powers. But the separation 0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.880 of powers goes to the fact that Parliament makes the 0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.080 laws and judges enforce the laws. And what we're creating 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.000 with the Court of Criminal Appeal is allowing us to 0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:29.320 appoint judges that have that background and that criminal expertise 0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.920 that they can bring to the courts to ensure that 0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.240 they are enforcing our tough new laws when it comes 0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:34.800 to sentencing. 0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:36.840 So you're not upset to ruffle a few feathers with this. 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.560 No, it's my job as Victoria's alternative premier and hopefully 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.320 Victorians put their trust in me the new premier in 0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.400 November this year, to end the crime crisis in this 0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.200 state and make sure that our judicial system is working 0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.719 for Victorians and its meeting community expectations. I'm not going 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.920 to apologize for making the decisions required to make sure 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.800 that Victorians have faith in their criminal justice system. 0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:00.840 I will say to you on the V and I 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.760 West change of heart. Originally it was a review, and 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.920 now it will be scrapped. I know you and I 0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:09.640 spoke many times, and I know you went out and 0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.959 you've met with people and you've listened. Yet is that 0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:13.440 what was behind the As. 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.520 You know, Peter, I spent thirty six days on the 0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.400 road visiting every electorate in this state all eighty eight, 0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.280 and a lot of time was spent on the ground 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.560 in regional communities and particularly the areas affected by V 0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.360 and I West. It's clear that the Labor government has 0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.840 bulldozed over the rights of farmers and property owners in 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.560 that area and there's no community license to see that 0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.560 project go ahead. But it's also a project that first 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.760 started off, as you know, with an estimate of around 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.560 two billion dollars. Of course that's blown out to nearly 0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:44.040 twelve billion dollars. Now that could add six hundred dollars 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:47.120 to every power bill here in Victoria, and it won't 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.280 do anything to deal with the looming shortfalls when it 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.520 comes to energy here in just a few years time. 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.000 When we see your lawn clothes in mid twenty twenty eight. 0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:57.400 So instead of focusing on poles and wires, you know, 0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.880 maybe in twenty thirty and hundreds of dollars on energy bills, 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.760 I'm going to put in place in energy security requirement 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.480 that will see more gas come online and to make 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.000 sure that we have that capacity so that when the 0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.640 lights need to stay on and we drive down energy bills, 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.239 we have that answer throughout. 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.239 Requirement to get more gas online. People will like just 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.120 though that you listened, that you got out there and 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.920 you listened, because too often the politicians don't want to 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.080 admit they've got it wrong or don't want to adjust 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.240 their position in any way that will be refreshing. 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.279 Well, and that's a type of premiere I want to be. 0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:30.680 I've met so many different Victorians over recent months, and 0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.040 I've gone to meet them where they are, whether that's 0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:36.239 on their farms, at their kitchen tables, in their businesses, 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.640 on their high streets, actually listening to the concerns. And 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.359 my plan to fix Victoria is informed by Victorians. It's 0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.360 a contract with them that they have helped me design 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.480 because they've talked to me about the issues that matter 0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.840 to them. But also we now need to solve those problems. 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.560 Real change it has a plan. I know that I 0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.160 have the plan and my team has the plan. 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.600 What about those people I've spoken to plenty of them, 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:04.239 you know, eighty year old farmers. Multiple communities have seen 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:08.080 people find at big fines. What happens to those fines? 0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:08.800 They're gone. 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.880 They will not continue under my leadership. I think it 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:14.680 is outrageous that we are seeing people being fined on 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.960 their own properties, when we're seeing these so called authorized 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.000 officers come on without the permission of the property owners. 0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:22.440 They're gone under my leadership. 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.600 I's going to talk to you about desk debt, but 0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:25.520 I've run out of time paping. 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.480 It's just two hundred billion dollars, which is just in Victoria. 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.080 Thanks enough, Thanks, yes, all right, that's it for me. 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.440 Let's go to a quick breakout of the break that 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.560 you and Special Rappord tour on violence against women and girls. 0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.439 She's in Australia. She's slammed our gender policy, says it's 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.520 completely out of step. Will talk to a GP, a 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:48.640 pediatrician who has now faced a formal complaint because he 0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:59.280 is concerned about transgender treatments. That's next, well, the bank'still 0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.960 to come the battle of free speech. Pauline Hanson set 0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.319 to challenge Section eighteen C in the High Court. We'll 0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.160 talk to James Ashby about that in a moment, But 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.959 just before I bring in my next guest, I would 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.680 to update you on something a very important intervention from 0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.680 the UN Special Rapporteur on Violence against Women and Girls. 0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:21.360 Her name is Rheim al Salem. She has slammed Australia's 0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:25.480 gender policy as completely out of step. Al Salem's in 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.759 Australia and she's joined the call for an overhaul the 0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:32.480 Sex Discrimination Act to put back in protections for the 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.120 rights of biological women. Importantly, she's also called for an 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:41.160 independent inquiry into the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency. This 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:45.600 is OPRA over its treatment of medicos who expressed concern 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.719 about gender medicine and children, which brings me now to 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:54.040 my next guest. He's one such medico, Professor Gary Gilhald, 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.560 has become the latest to be hit with a complaint 0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:01.239 from the regulator for speaking out about his concerns the 0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:07.319 gender distressed teenagers cannot possibly consent to transgender mystectomies. The 0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.120 anonymous complaint is over six months old and relates to 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:14.440 an article in The Australian which Professor Gearhold was quoted 0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.000 as saying children can't vote, they can't drive a car, 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.480 they can't fight for their country. They can't do all 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.520 of these things, and yet they're allowed to consent to 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:27.600 lifelong medications and mutilating surgery. I keep in mind Professor 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.160 Gilhold has had years of experience as a pediatrician and 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:34.960 a researcher who's also served as the Chief Medical Officer 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:39.359 of WA, as well as directing the emergency department at 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:43.359 the Princess Margaret Hospital for Children. I'm pleased to say 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.480 that Professor Garry Gearhold joins me now, thank you for 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.360 your time. Professor. I keep coming back to this issue 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:52.880 because I think it's so important we ventilate concerns that 0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.440 you know, everyone around the world tends to have, but 0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.400 not ventilated enough here in Australia. But I want to 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.000 be a place where we can defer doctors like you 0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:07.040 speaking up based on the hypocratic oath. I mean, what 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:11.239 concerns you most about the treatment by the regulator of 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.880 you and other colleagues, and a broader issue of gender 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.360 medicine treatment in this country for young people. 0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:23.560 Thanks Peter, Yeah, it's it may be a coincidence, but 0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.440 I spoke out quite publicly about six months ago in 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:31.160 the press on your program, just raising concerns about the 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:36.600 current affirmative approach to the management of young gender confused 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:42.600 children and adolescents. It may be coincidence, but I within 0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:45.560 a week of me complaining to Opera directly about their 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:49.439 treatment of doctor Andrew Amos, essentially for saying the same 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.520 things that I did, are received a sort of a 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:56.759 please explain from them as well. Now, it's not surprising 0:38:56.800 --> 0:39:00.600 that there've been complaints Opera about me and Andrew, because 0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:05.880 this is a subject that's you know, quite debated. However, 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.200 what is strange that they should have sent to both 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.880 those complaints to Andrew and me in the sense that 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.960 usually these things that are just clinical matters, people talking 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:19.080 about clinical opinion that shouldn't concern Opera. So that was 0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.759 a bit that was a bit strange, and one of 0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.840 the reasons that there may have been the cases that 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.359 if Opera actually has some sort of voice in this, 0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:31.840 you know, they should be actually outside of this, outside 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.200 of clinical issues, they shouldn't be taking sides. Based on 0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:40.600 that we under of information we're able to get some 0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:47.759 minutes and agendas of meetings of opera subgroups LGBTQ, you know, 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:51.400 interest groups within opera that seems to show quite clearly 0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:55.400 that they have a bias, that is, they support gender 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.200 affirming care. Now that shouldn't be the role of opera 0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.560 at all. So on that they said, if I wasn't 0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.080 happy with their response to my complain about doctor Amos, 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:09.759 I should complain to the National Health Professional Health Practitioners Ombersman. 0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.680 So I've done that and the ombudsman wants to see 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.960 the papers that we got under freedom of information, so 0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:18.360 we'll see how that goes. 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.799 How can we be so out of step with the 0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:29.040 rest of the world, now, well. 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.839 It's partly a lot of It's partly, I would say 0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.400 to OPRAH in the sense that people who do actually 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.680 give an opinion have been sensored. If you look what 0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:42.040 happened to Andrew Amos and to Jillian Spencer, they you know, 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:46.960 both shut down everyone I speak to and be you know. 0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.480 Privately will agree with I think the majority of. 0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:53.880 Health practitioners in Australia agree and yet they can't they 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:58.000 can't speak out look at the center of this is 0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:01.279 really just it should be a medical it's this new 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.480 phenomenon of all these young people confused about their gender, 0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.160 and it should be we look at this affirmative model, 0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.800 we say, what is the evidence that it actually helps 0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:13.000 these young people in the long term that seems to 0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.399 be lacking. What is the evidence that it could harm them? 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:19.160 Given the treatment is lifelong hormones and surgery and so on. 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.640 The evidence for harm there is real, So we should 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.799 be weighing that up, and as new evidence becomes available, 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:29.320 we should say, you know, we'll change our approach if necessary. 0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.920 On the other side, you have people who believe in 0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:35.400 a trans soul and basically believe if a child comes 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:38.320 forward and says, I mean the wrong body, they should 0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:43.960 be affirmed and regardless of the evidence. Now, to sort 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:45.840 of illustrate that in a way, there's a big study 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:49.080 art of the United States over one hundred thousand patients. 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.200 Or you know, people who've gone through this. 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.959 Transition, and of those that had surgery, it shows quite 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:59.279 clearly that the psychiatric outcomes for these people is much 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:02.759 worse after surgery. Now, the people who say let's be 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.600 evidence based, they say, maybe we should now think about 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.720 whether we need to do the surgery for the trans lobby. 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.399 They actually say this shows we need more psychiatric care 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.960 for trans people post surgery. 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.080 And that's it in a nutshell really. 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.640 As opposed to surgery. I mean what staggers me is 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.719 if I was a fourteen year old girl and I 0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.000 fronted at a hospital with anorexia and told you I 0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.160 was fat, you would put me in a program, possibly 0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:32.920 admit me, and try and make me well. You'd work 0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.920 my body and my nutrition obviously, but she'd work on 0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.719 my head. You'd get my head straight. But if we 0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:40.640 get a fourteen year old girl that comes in and 0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.759 suddenly thinks she's a boy, even if you want to 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.960 start in the place of mental health care before you 0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:50.960 do anything else. Unfortunately, the way the systems set up 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.520 with a lot of these lobby groups, you force down 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:58.480 the path of a medically based, body based intervention, and 0:42:58.520 --> 0:42:59.640 I think that's just wrong. 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:06.160 Yes, well, around the emergency department at Princess Margaret for 0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.880 twenty two years till twenty twelve, and I contended on 0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:13.000 after that in other ways other rold I figured there 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.440 would have been over a million children came through during 0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:16.000 that time. 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.480 Not once did we see this issue. 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.520 Now we saw a lot of confused young adolescent pre 0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:25.840 adolescent people, usually girls, sometimes boys, who were very confused 0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.719 about the onset of puberty, and often they presented with 0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:32.440 all sorts of bizarre symptoms, but never thinking they're in 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.919 the wrong body as such. And as many people have said, 0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.360 this seems to have come in side since twenty twelve 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.759 with the onset of social media and so on. Would 0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.160 seem to be you know, there's a place there. So 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.279 you're quite right, Peter in that this issue is being 0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:48.759 it's just not the medical model. It's been treated quite 0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:50.959 differently to you know, any other medical problem. 0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.839 Everything else all over there. Wy'b be the last time 0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:55.680 we talked, professor, But thank you for your time and 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:58.640 thank you for your bravery. What quick break after the break, 0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.120 James Ashby, you still have the mop in his hand. 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:08.919 We'll talk to him in a moment. Clee, quickly bring 0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:10.640 in my panel joining me in our news Renny four 0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:14.960 contributor Nicole Flint and the man with a mopout yesterday 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.319 One Nation Party director James Ashby, this is why you 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:19.920 pay the big bucks to now run the party? Mate, 0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.560 is the mop away? Have you tied in this up 0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:24.879 or we straight on the numbers now. 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.040 Someone was a bit cheeky today and got me a 0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.640 fire extinguishers, so thank you for that lovely gift. But look, 0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:37.400 there are moments where people have mistakes, particularly in politics. 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:38.759 And yeah, look the numbers are clear. 0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:41.319 One nation has always said we intend to bring those 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:46.040 net overseas migration numbers down to one hundred and thirty thousand. 0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.640 That doesn't mean taking away schemes like the palm scheme 0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:50.600 or backpackers. 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:52.319 We know how vital they are, but. 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.759 They don't come into the non figures. And I think 0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.840 that's where, unfortunately, David found himself in the weeds. 0:44:58.239 --> 0:44:59.560 It is a highly. 0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:04.000 Technical error immigration, and David is articulate, very well informed 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.200 when it comes to agriculture and water. And I think 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:07.800 you learned a valuable lesson. 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:12.040 Yesterday, Nicole. I did listen to a lot of people 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.640 today saying, oh, the regions are different. You know they 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:18.359 absolutely want all this migration, well they do when they don't. 0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.279 They do want it for labor on farms, as you 0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.680 well know, but they're also sick to death of being 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:28.560 sent immigrant doctors and not having continuity of care. Always 0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:32.480 struggling for people country kids in particular to be able 0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:34.280 to afford to go back and live in the regions. 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.200 I would have loved to have stayed and had a 0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.759 job in studying the regions, but was never able to. 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.920 This is also marrying those issues up, so regional kids 0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:45.399 had come back and live in the towns they grew 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:46.040 up as well. 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:51.200 Absolutely, Peter, and look, it's a really difficult issue migration. 0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.760 We've got a record housing crisis on our hands, which 0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.319 in large part is because Labor have let millions of 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.920 people into Australia during their tenure. And yeah, it's putting 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.520 pressure on rule and regional Australia in major ways. So 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.560 what we need to see from all of the parties 0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:12.640 is very clear policy and very clear numbers. And I 0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:14.480 think this is always going to be the challenge for 0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:18.840 one nation, having clear policies across all of the key issues, 0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:22.919 but also managing what are some very big personalities within 0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.000 the party. And as we've seen over the past couple 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.719 of days, that's going to be an ongoing challenge for them. 0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.040 Hey, your boss is going to go to the High Court, 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.880 She's going to take on that decision and seek it 0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.759 to be overruled. This is that she had racially vilified 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:41.080 the grand tender Marine Farouki. Not cheap to do this, 0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:43.959 pretty brave to go to the High Court, James tell us. 0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:49.160 More, well, let's fix up that should have been done 0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.920 with the coalition when they made the promise, and Nicole, 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:55.280 you had that opportunity, but unfortunately the Liberal Party chickened 0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:58.319 out at the time, and now we're seeing not just 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:02.839 politicians but ordinary strae aliens face the wrath of this legislation. 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.840 It is important that it goes because you can simply 0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:09.560 insult somebody who is from a minority group and you 0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:13.960 end up losing the House effectively, because the cost of 0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.279 this and the precedent this is set now in the 0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:19.840 Federal Court must be challenged in the High Court because 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:23.719 we can't have politicians, let alone the public, silenced over 0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:27.000 something that an individual can take offense to and it 0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:27.960 just takes one. 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.960 Nicole, I've got to ask you about those reported comments 0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.040 in the Herald Sign from the footballers at the center 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:41.200 of the Sydney AFL storm who in allegedly groping women 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:45.600 lap dancers or having their lap dance. They refer to 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:48.239 themselves as doing an elbow. What do you make of that? 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.360 Well, clearly the Prime Minister is not letting by example, 0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:57.319 and so even our footy players are using him to 0:47:57.520 --> 0:47:59.840 excuse appallingly. 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:03.480 Bad behavior or make light of it. Peter, this is just. 0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:07.279 Believable from the AFL. 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:08.640 They are one of. 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.239 The codes that loves to lecture all of us out 0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:13.800 here who just want to turn up and watch ossie rules. 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:16.680 My dad played something like four hundred and thirty games, 0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:19.000 mainly a grape for our local footy team. I was 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.640 born on a Saturday and footy sason right. I've watched 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.600 more AFL than most people. I am disgusted by the 0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:29.880 AFL's complete lack of control over their players. We're seeing, 0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:33.920 you know, whether it's appalling treatment of women, whether it's drugs. 0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:37.200 They do not have control of their league. It's not 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:40.719 good enough, and they are so sanctimonious, and they've spent 0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:42.759 years lecturing the rest of us who just want to 0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:47.120 watch pooty over whether it's you know, day rights or 0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:49.840 indigenous rights or whatever it. 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:51.520 Might be, whatever round it might be. 0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:55.880 Enough is enough, clean up your clean up your code, AFL, 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:59.439 because you are letting all of the fans down. 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.720 I will leave it there. I'll watch you with interest 0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.879 to next Saturday night. At this Saturday night, I might 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.240 say the secret Harbor by election in the West. James, 0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:11.400 good luck with all of that. I'll speak to you 0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.520 both next week. That's it for me. Andrew's away, as 0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:17.000 you know, for a little while. But you've got James bidperson. 0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:18.080 He's up next.