1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: On scoring in Zastrodya. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: This is the reader Panahe Show. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the reader Panahee Show. I'm 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 3: Caroline Derusso. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: Coming up on the show tonight. 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 3: And the new Coalition ministry has finally been announced and 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: yes it has raised some eyebrows. 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: We'll discuss that and much more with Angela. 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: Mollard, including Independent Senator Fadam of Payman's bombshell allegations against 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: colleague now Adam B. 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 4: Coleman. 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: He joins us to discuss the latest from the US, 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: including a shocking undercover video from a Democrat insider and 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: of course Left He's losing It, featuring Democrat Jasmine Crockett's 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: dire warning about Trump. 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 5: It is time for Republicans to starry calling him out 17 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 5: and started questioning his mental acuity and whether or not 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 5: he is equipped to serve mentally. 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 4: But joining me now is newscot colonist Angela Mollard. 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: Angela, after kicking the decision on the Northwest Shelf down 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: the road until after the election, Labor has given it 22 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: the green light. 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: Thankfully. 24 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: And obviously I'm from Western Australia, so I feel like 25 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: I've got a bit of. 26 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: Skin in the game in this decision. 27 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: Do you think though, you know, was it a bit 28 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: dangerous then politicizing that decision in that way. 29 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: We've definitely seen them walk. 30 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: Back their opposition to gas in recent months, we have, 31 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: and I think there's a newfound pragmatism that they needed. 32 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 6: You know, they've won the election, but they have to 33 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 6: they have to make the country work now, and this 34 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 6: is central to making the country work. This, of course 35 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 6: took six and a half years of green tape. I 36 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 6: think it's a bit of a shame that it didn't 37 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 6: get through on pleverusx watch because of course she had, 38 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 6: you know, walls put up. 39 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 7: At every turn when she was Environment minister. Of course 40 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 7: has come through Murray what. 41 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 6: But it shows that the labor is prepared to look 42 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 6: at the fact that if we are going to have 43 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 6: productivity and we are going to energize this country, you know, 44 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 6: both for industry and for individuals, that we need to 45 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 6: look at diverse sources, not just fossil fuels. The only 46 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 6: interesting thing I think though, is that what are the 47 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 6: Greens going to think about in the future, Because of 48 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 6: course they are in the Senate, they can block the 49 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 6: sistance like this in the future. So it's a good 50 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 6: it's a you know, it's front footed and it's smart 51 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 6: for Labor. 52 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 7: At this stage. 53 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 6: But I'll be interested to see how it flows through 54 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 6: on other projects. 55 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: Do you think it could have potentially been different if 56 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: Labor didn't have the majority that. 57 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 7: They have, look hugely different. 58 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 6: You possibly wouldn't have got that or you would have 59 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 6: got blowback on it, of course, but you know, they 60 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 6: have such a strong remit now and it'd be really 61 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 6: interesting to see what they do. There's so many areas 62 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 6: now they can push through because they have that majority. 63 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 6: It's just really looking at what they choose and where 64 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 6: they will see the greatest benefit both budge for the 65 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 6: budget and for the populace. 66 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: Now, Victoria doesn't seem to have got the memo on 67 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: gas and the Santa CEO Kevin Gallagher, he's come out 68 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: and basically compared Victoria to North Korea. 69 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: So what's this all about? 70 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. 71 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 6: So he's at a conference since Brisbane, an oil and 72 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 6: gas conference, and he has basically said that they are 73 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 6: so back with they're so communist in their approach to 74 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 6: things that they are not green lighting projects that help 75 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 6: industry in that. 76 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 7: State, and I think he's right. 77 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 6: There is a real danger that Victoria is going to 78 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 6: become forever more a loser state. I mean, you have 79 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 6: to balance your socialist policies with your capitalist ones. Any 80 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 6: government does, whatever government, you know, whatever party they represent, 81 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 6: and you have to drive growth. 82 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 7: You have to drive productivity. 83 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 6: We have a massive productivity issue in this country nationally, 84 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 6: and if a state is going to fall by the wayside. 85 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 7: I also think it's really important. 86 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 6: Just as it's important to have a strong opposition in 87 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 6: government at a federal level, you also need strong parity 88 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 6: within the state and territory governments so that they're looking 89 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 6: at each other, that they're competing with each other, whether 90 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 6: that's on education as a safe productivity, whether it's on 91 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 6: environmental policies. By keeping an eye angel on each other 92 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 6: and all staying strong, and there'll be areas where some 93 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 6: have better resources than others. 94 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: Competitive federalism doesn't exactly. 95 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 6: If you've got to have that system, and a lot 96 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 6: of us think it's a very you know, a bloated system, 97 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 6: then it's got to be sharp, it's got to be 98 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 6: rigorous and effective. And he's quite right and drawing attention 99 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 6: to it and what's problematic about this by him declaring 100 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 6: it is that other businesses that might consider setting up 101 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 6: in Victoria will not. 102 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 7: Do that now. 103 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 6: So the effect on others looking at that, you know, 104 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 6: we've already seen this massive move for a lot of 105 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 6: businesses to Queensland, New South Wales other parts of the country. 106 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 7: I mean, Victoria needs to watch itself. 107 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: It really does. 108 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: And I think this here is a real failure of 109 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: state policy because if you are not going to develop 110 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: your resources and have the benefit of your resources, you 111 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: can't just put your hand out for more GST because 112 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: you're failing to do the things that you should be 113 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 3: doing in the first place. 114 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Onto the coalition and. 115 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: They announcing you ministry or shadow ministry yesterday, what was 116 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: most notable for you in. 117 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 7: All of that. 118 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 6: Look, I know there's been a lot of discussion around 119 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 6: the demotion of women and the part of women and 120 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 6: the party. I'm much more interested, actually less in the 121 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 6: numbers than the portfolios, and the two portfolios that stand 122 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 6: up to me. Where I think that Susan those made 123 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 6: a mistake is obviously just into an ampership of price. 124 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 6: She so owns that Indigenous conversation. She was brilliant after 125 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 6: the Voice. Most Australians really care about how money is 126 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 6: being spent on the Indigenous community and whether it's effective. Now, 127 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 6: she just to drove through that idea that we should 128 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 6: have an audit on where all that money is being spent. 129 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 7: It's a brilliant idea. 130 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 6: We can look at what's effective, we can look at 131 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 6: what's working. She was well placed. It was also been 132 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 6: really smart to have her alongside you. She's somebody that 133 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 6: the population likes. She's great on media and you know 134 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 6: a lot of the Liberal and National Party aren't great 135 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 6: at that. So that's one thing where she made a mistake. 136 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 6: I also think she made the same mistake with Sarah Henderson. 137 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 6: There is a massive opportunity for the Coalition to make 138 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 6: headways on education. It was completely undiscussed in the election. 139 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 6: Henderson really complained about the fact that it was under 140 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 6: the remit. 141 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 7: You know, no one was talking about it. 142 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 6: The New Zealand government, the Nationals in New Zealand won 143 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 6: the election on their education mandate. We are in a 144 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 6: crisis situation in education in this country. 145 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 7: Our maths is appalling and the. 146 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 6: Gratin In Institute has a plan for a ten year 147 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 6: maths guarantee. The impact on productivity if we do not 148 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 6: raise our standards is immense, And that is such an 149 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 6: easy win you could have as the coalition appointed her. 150 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 6: She's got a feet under the table, she knows the portfolio, 151 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 6: and you could have started to make headways in a 152 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 6: really good portfolio that most of the Electric parents, like myself, 153 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 6: people across the board care about. It's not a niche interest, 154 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 6: it's a mainstream one. 155 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 7: And to now have. 156 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 6: To have someone else in the portfolio learning about it 157 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 6: when you could have got off to a good start 158 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 6: is shortsighted as far. 159 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 7: As I'm concerned. Okay, now bring your enemies close too, 160 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 7: you know. But also people are really self oriented. 161 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 6: If you're given something, you're given power to do it, 162 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 6: you soon align with the person who's given you that power. 163 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is very interest. 164 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: That's a reasonable point to make onto independent Senator fatom 165 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: of Payment. And she's made some pretty bombshell allegations about 166 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: behavior from a colleague. 167 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: So what's the story here and here? 168 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: And do we expect this to gain traction as similar 169 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: stories have in the past. 170 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 6: I'd be really interested to see because this is historical. 171 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 6: I mean, it's only two hundred twenty twenty three. But 172 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 6: what I'm interested about it and I do want to 173 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 6: get this right. I do want to get her wording right, 174 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 6: so Shor. What she's doing is she's claiming that a 175 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 6: male colleague was drunk and pressed her at an event, 176 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 6: saying let's get some wine into you and see you 177 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 6: dance on the table. Now she's claiming sexual harassment and 178 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 6: racial harassment. 179 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 7: I'm not an expert. 180 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 6: I don't pretend to know whether that is sexual or 181 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 6: racial harassment. But to me, that's being a dickhead and 182 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 6: it's being ugly. So call the dickhead policy. And this 183 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 6: is what I want more women to do. She says 184 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 6: she's raising this now because there's more young women in 185 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 6: Parliament that are coming through. She wants them to be 186 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 6: protected in that environment. I'm not sure that that's her 187 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 6: motivation here. I think she's bringing attention back to herself. 188 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 6: And look, if somebody feels uncomfortably racially, sexually, they have 189 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 6: the remit and the right to talk about that. 190 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 7: But I also want. 191 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 6: Women to just stand up in the moment and turn 192 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 6: around and go, don't be a dick Honestly, you're just ugly. 193 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 6: Because most men or anybody any gender who says something 194 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 6: stupid when questioned on it in the moment will usually 195 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 6: come back you usually persolutely. 196 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: Look, I'm all for I'm all for a formal nodheads policy. 197 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 3: I think I think it is served various parts of 198 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: the political and corporate world very well. And always the 199 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: best time, if you feel like you're able to, is 200 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: to deal with it in the moment, because that there 201 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: is actually an empowering, empowering for you in that moment, 202 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: rather than feeling terrible about something afterwards and maybe wishing 203 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 3: you had have said. 204 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 6: I love what you're saying there, because you're talking about 205 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 6: agency and every time you grab your own agency. 206 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 7: And you know, look, as a woman who's worked in 207 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 7: the work, but you. 208 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 6: Know a very long time, I was going to put 209 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 6: a year number on yeh, but you know, I'm not 210 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 6: pensionable yet. 211 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 7: But I do. 212 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 6: I really feel you're right on that, that you know, 213 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 6: that being having some self determination. And here she looks 214 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 6: she took it to the to the Parliamentary Workplace Support Service. 215 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 6: We will I don't know if we'll find out what 216 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 6: actually happened from that, but I you know, in all 217 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 6: these cases, you know there are a lot like defamation. 218 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 6: You need facts and clarity on them to fully understand 219 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 6: the situation. 220 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely now onto the A and U and they 221 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: have walked back. 222 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: That they have walked back where they got to. 223 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: On the definition of anti Semitism. It's been panned by 224 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: Jewish groups as you would expect. So what has happened here? 225 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: Why the walmbag? 226 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 7: That's right. 227 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 6: So most of the universities in the country have either 228 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 6: signed up to the two definitions, and that's pretty similar 229 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 6: on anti semitism, A and YOU hasn't. And there's been 230 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 6: a lot of demonstrations and concerns around anti semitism and 231 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 6: some issues. Look, there's some question about the factor leadership 232 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 6: on holiday and I've been enjoying looking at. 233 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 7: Julie Bishop's instagram on holiday. She seems to be having 234 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 7: a jolly old time. 235 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 6: Of course, Look the fact that they haven't done it yet, 236 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 6: is it that they haven't pushed it through because they're 237 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 6: still considering it and they want. 238 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: Just sitting on it? 239 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 7: Are they just sitting it on to the end of 240 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 7: the year. 241 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, I think whether or 242 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 6: not you have a definition or not, half the time 243 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 6: we can't actually say what's sorracism? 244 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 7: What is semitism? But we know when we see him, 245 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 7: let's see it. 246 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 6: And without having a definition doesn't mean they cannot prosecute 247 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 6: or when there are instances where that occurs. And I 248 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 6: think so, Yes, of course we need a framework, but 249 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 6: we shouldn't be too overly concerned that this hasn't been 250 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 6: pushed through yet. Better to do it properly and have 251 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 6: something fair enough to do it once, exactly, measure twice, 252 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 6: do it once. 253 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the lady. 254 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: Needs a holiday, Then the lady needs a holiday now. 255 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 4: Very interesting piece about the changes to travel. 256 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: Rules in twenty twenty five. 257 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 4: I love to travel, but can you tell us what 258 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: are the tricks and the. 259 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: Traps for the intrepid Australians heading overseas. 260 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 6: I need to bundle off home because my daughter's taken 261 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 6: off in two weeks time and she's going to get 262 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 6: stung for these fines. Okay, basically, Caroline, the whole of 263 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 6: Europe seems to be looking at fining, probably us because 264 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 6: where the people that go there, all our gap years 265 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 6: and all our boomers who end up going over to 266 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 6: the northern Hemisphere during the summertime. These are astonishing Portugal, 267 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 6: for instance, they're going to have a three thousand dollar 268 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 6: fine for being naked in public. 269 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 7: Probably fair enough. 270 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 6: The bikini fine, okay, if you don't wear a bikini, 271 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 6: buy the pool or a beach, you're going to be fine. 272 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 6: What's that two hundred and two five hundred dollars? You 273 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 6: know in Manly where I live in New South Wales, 274 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 6: you wouldn't have anyone in the supermarket get back bikinis. 275 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 6: Lisbon's having a three five hundred dollar fine for being 276 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 6: noisy and a quiet place. 277 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 7: I was in Lisbon last year. The whole point of 278 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 7: Lisbon is that it's noisy where you go there. 279 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 6: Turkey, if you take your seatbelt off before the plane 280 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 6: says you can, you're going to be fine. 281 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 7: One hundred and four dollars. 282 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 6: There's no pub crules, so like loads of places in 283 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 6: Europe say, you know you can't go on a pub rule, Well, 284 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 6: what defines a pub crule? 285 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 7: Is that two pubs? Or is that six pubs? 286 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: But you know what the great thing is, how many 287 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: is a crawl? 288 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 7: How is a what's a crawl? 289 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 6: For you? 290 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 7: Well? Three? 291 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 4: IM a non drinker, so oh there you got there. 292 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: I'm a little bit useless in this particulous circumstances. 293 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: But you would you would think it would have to 294 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: be at least three or four because you would always 295 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: go somewhere before dinner, have dinner after dinner. So that's 296 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: three that could technically I. 297 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: Think to be four or more. 298 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 6: Is that you know what the real opportunity here is 299 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 6: for our tourism industry. We need to come up with 300 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 6: a new campaign which is basically, come as you are, 301 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 6: where your bikini in the supermarket, you can have as 302 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 6: many go to as many pubs as you like. There's 303 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 6: one there's one that says, you know how you have 304 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 6: those all inclusive deals? Yes, well the all inclusive alcohol 305 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 6: deal is now that you can only have maximum of 306 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 6: six drinks. 307 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 7: So who's going to police that? 308 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 6: If you've got an all inclusive deal, who's counting your 309 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: drinks as you're ordering them? 310 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 7: Look, Europe's getting tough, we know Barcelona. There's the laura that. 311 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 4: Means there's an opportunity here for us in Australia. 312 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 6: Absolutely, we just sell it as that anything goes country 313 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 6: absolutely a bit messy, it might be a bit noisy, 314 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 6: there might be a few boobs hanging out. 315 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: But you know, We've been that country in the past 316 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: and I think we should celebrate it. 317 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 4: But remember Caroline. 318 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 6: When I lived in Britain back in the nineties, everyone 319 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 6: had their boobs out on a beach, So I don't 320 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 6: know what this about to. 321 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: Had become prudes. 322 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: As always, Thank you so much, Angela Molla, Thanks Carolyn. 323 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: Joining me now is child and adolescent psychologist Clairo Claire. 324 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 3: Thank you for coming to the show. Big Few or 325 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 3: about Newington College going co ed. There were some legal 326 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: proceedings they have failed. What's the reasoning behind this particular decision. 327 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks Carolyn. Yeah, the decision from Newington, big private 328 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 8: private boys' school soon to be co ed now in Sydney, 329 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 8: and of course there was a big legal battle to 330 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 8: try and stop that, mostly from the old boys of 331 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 8: the school. That's fallen over basically with a judge ruling 332 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 8: that you know, the constitution allows this of the school, 333 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 8: that they have every right to go ahead with that plan, 334 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 8: which I think is coming in with girls now in 335 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 8: twenty thirty three. So it's a very disappointed people, I 336 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 8: suppose with that decision that school Newington in Sydney, very 337 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 8: prestigious private school, is one of a few now private 338 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 8: boys schools. 339 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: That are turning co ed. 340 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 8: I would note it's never actually the girls' schools that 341 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 8: welcome in the boys. It always seems to be the 342 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 8: other way around. But there we go, and. 343 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: Look that there was obviously legal proceedings and that was 344 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: to do with the interpretation of that particular constitution. But 345 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: onto the issue of single sex versus co ed education. 346 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: What's your view on single sex schooling or co ed 347 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: schooling and the impacts and potential impacts on child learning. Yeah, 348 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: this topic comes around and it seems quite polarized, but 349 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: I mean my take is there. 350 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 8: Needs to be choice. It's not an either or approach. 351 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 8: The outcomes on learning. Actually, there's no really conclusive research. 352 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 8: There is some research to the shows, of course, that 353 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 8: children come out with maybe some confidence and empathy and 354 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 8: maybe some better communication skills with the opposite sex in 355 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 8: coed education. Of course, the argument for coed education is 356 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 8: that it mirrors the real world, so communities and workplaces 357 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 8: and families aren't gender segregated. But then I would argue, 358 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 8: there's a lot of kids who do really well in 359 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 8: a single sex school, so this has to be about 360 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 8: a parent's choice. There's a lot of your research that 361 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 8: shows that some girls are less inhibited, they're less worried 362 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 8: about their image. As you can imagine, without boys around, 363 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 8: they're more likely to take up stem subjects. And I think, 364 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 8: you know, sometimes culture and tradition is just more important 365 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 8: to people, and that's okay. So I just think progression 366 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 8: should be about choice for parents looking at their individual child. 367 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 8: A child's like cologists. But I've got two kids, and 368 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 8: I actually think i've got one of each. One will 369 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 8: do really well in a single sex school. One probably 370 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 8: co eds. So I just don't think that we can 371 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 8: have progression if we're going to eliminate or minimize choice 372 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 8: for parents. 373 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: No fair enough, I went to a single sex school. 374 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: I was a massive nerd, so I think it suited 375 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: me really well. 376 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: Actually. 377 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: Now onto the perennial issue, unfortunately, of closing the gap, 378 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: and again a big part of that is health and 379 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: education outcomes for Indigenous kids. Have we made any progress 380 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: recently and is there anything new that's proposed in that 381 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: space which is likely to help those particular issues. 382 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: Well, we're not making. 383 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 8: Much progress as far as I can see. The latest 384 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 8: report shows that four out of seventeen objective outcomes for 385 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 8: the Closing the Gap policy are on track only four 386 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 8: out of the seventeen, so no, we're not doing much. 387 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 8: And the latest proposal is that, oh, you know, need 388 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 8: to include decision making with communities and indigenous voices, and 389 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 8: of course we should. That makes sense and I think 390 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 8: that most Australians recognize that we don't need a third 391 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 8: chamber of Parliament to do that. We don't need to 392 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 8: mess around with changing the constitution. 393 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: We just need to get on and do it. 394 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 8: As you said, you know, a lot of this comes 395 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 8: down to health and education, but across the board, I 396 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 8: think one hundred percent of Australians are ashamed and appalled 397 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 8: at the developmental outcomes of Indigenous kids, who by four 398 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 8: and five years old are absolutely you know, delayed developmentally 399 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 8: compared to non Indigenous kids. So I think, like in 400 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 8: most areas, it's just about more action, isn't it, and 401 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 8: it's less policy making. And from an education point of view, 402 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 8: I actually think that we need to come to this 403 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 8: from the point of view of not significantly lowering our 404 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 8: expectations for Indigenous kids, like we kind of think they're indigenous, 405 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 8: so you know, they're not going to attend school and 406 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 8: that's okay, that's not okay, because that's how we set 407 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 8: them up for a better life in the future, is 408 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 8: through education. So we need to hold the same standard 409 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 8: for these Indigenous kids and these expectations for them as 410 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 8: we would other Aussie kids. 411 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they still they deserve to be able to achieve, 412 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: just like any other child in the country. Now onto 413 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 3: youth crime, and I think it's pretty fair to say 414 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: that it's a bit out. 415 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: Of control in Victoria. 416 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: There's now been an immediate ban on the selling of machetes. 417 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 3: Why is the government in Victoria so obsessed We're treating 418 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: the symptom and not treating the problem. 419 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean, on one hand, there was an 420 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 8: immediate ban. On the other hand, the other government gave 421 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 8: forty eight hours to retailers. So one could argue we're 422 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 8: safer now with less machetes on the street. But I 423 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 8: don't know if we are safer. I think there's more 424 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 8: machetes because of the fire sale that happened in the 425 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 8: last forty eight hours. They've all sold out. So you know, 426 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 8: it's just the same thing with Alan government of reactive 427 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 8: policy and a really short term look at things. Research 428 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 8: by the IPA into youth crime has shown actually the 429 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 8: biggest to turrent of youth crime is not actually things 430 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 8: like the severity of the punishment. Youth criminals are not 431 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 8: thinking about that. The biggest to turrent is whether in 432 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 8: the moment they're going to be caught or not. So 433 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 8: that's a pretty cost benefit shallow analysis, but that's the 434 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 8: reality of it. So I think if the Allen government 435 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 8: was really serious about cracking down on this, they would 436 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 8: put their funding and support into the police and have 437 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 8: them more visible. And if mashety attacks are happening in 438 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 8: shopping centers, there needs to be police and shopping centers. 439 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 8: At the end of the day, that's no different to 440 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 8: the primary school yard, is it? Where you know, troublesome 441 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 8: kind of kids don't act out when the teachers on duty. 442 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 8: And that's what the IPA research says. I think that 443 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 8: that's where we need to look at things. But at 444 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 8: the end of the day, I think all the policies 445 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 8: and ideas come out to really fringe and around the edges, 446 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 8: bail reforms and things like that. But actually that's how 447 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 8: youth criminals decite in the moment impulsively whether they're going 448 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 8: to act out or not. 449 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: No fair enough. Now, lastly, and I've only got about 450 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: a minute yet left, but a Canadian university has launched 451 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: an adulting one to one course to teach basic life skills. 452 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: Now, Claire, isn't this just the mother. 453 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: Of all indictments that we've failed our children on development? 454 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 8: Yes, this university cause is proposing to do things like 455 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 8: teaching not kids, twenty year olds how to put the 456 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 8: washing on and how to do the super much shopping. 457 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 8: This is the job of parents. And I've always said, 458 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 8: you know, we completely overprotect our kids in the real world. 459 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: We underprotect them in the online world. 460 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 8: But kids need to be able to by the time 461 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 8: they're in primary school walk into a shop and buy something. 462 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 8: We absolutely need to be teaching life skills. 463 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: It's not enough just. 464 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 8: To house your here and feed them. You need to 465 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 8: be parenting them. You've got eighteen years to turn out 466 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 8: a fully functioning human in society. It's a lot longer 467 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 8: than most mammals get and we're failing that and we've 468 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 8: got universities teaching it, which just seems bizarre. 469 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: It seems totally. 470 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: Bizarre given some of the other things we worry about. 471 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: Our universities you think your kids would be better off 472 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: learning those life skills at home. But as always, Clairot, 473 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining the show. 474 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 8: Thanks a lot still to come. 475 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: Lefties Losing It, Plus shocking footage has emerged of a 476 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: Democrat insider exposing Joe Biden's inner circle. 477 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: Adam B. 478 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 3: Coleman joins me next with the details. Welcome back to 479 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: the show, and now it's time for Lefties Losing It 480 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: and Democrat Representative Jasmine Crockett. 481 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 4: Well, she is back in the headlines. You right, Remember 482 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: when she ridiculed Texas Governor Greg. 483 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: Abbott for being in a wheelchair, calling him the governor 484 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 3: hot wheels. 485 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 5: We in these hot ass Texas streets, Honey, y'all know 486 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 5: we got governor hot. 487 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 8: Wheels down there. 488 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 9: Come on now, and the only thing hot about him 489 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 9: is that he is a hot ass mass honey. 490 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: Or perhaps the time she admitted that she was only 491 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: hired because she was black. 492 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 9: When I first became a public defender, I had no 493 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 9: criminal defense experience and I walked in and I told 494 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 9: my boss, Charlie, I said, listen, you should hire me. 495 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 9: He said why, I said, because I'm black. 496 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: Well, now she's come out swinging, calling for Republicans to 497 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: question President Trump's mental acuity. 498 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 5: It is time for Republicans to start calling him out 499 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 5: and started questioning his mental acuity and whether or not 500 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 5: he is equipped to serve mentally. 501 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's all very interesting because where was she when 502 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: people were questioning Joe Biden's mental acuity? 503 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 5: People tried to talk about the mental acuity of Joe Biden, 504 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 5: and as someone who was able to interact with him, 505 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 5: I never questioned his acuity. 506 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: And if that isn't enough, Jasmine Crockett cringe for one day, 507 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: enjoy this short clip that she shared on her social media. Yes, 508 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 3: she actually thought this was something worth sharing. 509 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 10: Jasmine Crocking, she rises with the dum fighting for justice. 510 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: I will never be gone. 511 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 7: Now. 512 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: See here none other than Hollywood action star Chuck Norris. Well, 513 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: he explains why he left the Democrats and became a Republican. 514 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: I used to be a Democrat, but unfortunately the Democrats 515 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: went too far to the left, and the Republicans moved 516 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: into their position that the. 517 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 4: Democrats were forty years ago. 518 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: Yes to see, and so the what the Democrats. 519 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 6: Believed forty years ago, the Republicans believed today. 520 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 10: And so I realized that I had to go. 521 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 4: To a Republican because the Democrats has got to for 522 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 4: oft off the trail. 523 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: And it's not at all hard to see what Chuck 524 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: is talking about. 525 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: Look at this new. 526 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: Poll which indicates that AOC best represents the Democratic Party values. 527 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 11: Who is in fact the leader of the Democratic Party. 528 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 11: And a recent poll showed Congresswoman Alexandria Casio Cortez topping 529 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 11: the list of Democrats who best represent the party's values. 530 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: That should terrify every Democrat. 531 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the same AOC, who, when she isn't pretending 532 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: to be a fashion model, is telling people to ignore 533 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: the rule of law. 534 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 12: They believe that the Biden demonistration should ignore this ruling. 535 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 12: I think that we know the courts have the legitimacy 536 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 12: and they rely on the legitimacy of their rulings. 537 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: Classy with a capital K joining me now is political 538 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: commentator and author of The Children We Left Behind. 539 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: Adam B. Coleman. 540 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: Adam an allegation was made some months back about the 541 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: use of autopen during the Biden administration, and then obviously 542 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: consequently questions over who was pulling the strings if the 543 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: former president wasn't where in signing things himself. 544 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 4: So, what's the latest with this auto pen situation. 545 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 13: Yeah, the latest with the autopen situation is that the 546 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 13: GOP is now starting to do investigations. They're making claims 547 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 13: about staffers being the ones who are actually making decisions 548 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 13: as to what is actually being signed supposedly by the president. 549 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 13: And coincidentally, you have some Democrats, some of them are 550 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 13: media personalities like Jake Tapper, who are coming out and 551 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 13: saying that Joe Biden's cognitive ability was declining. The thing 552 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 13: that we all could tell, you know, if we're just 553 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 13: being honest and paying attention, and that puts into question 554 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 13: was he aware of all the things that are happening 555 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 13: in the White House? And if he wasn't, who was 556 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 13: behind it? So it's less about the autopen because even 557 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 13: Trump has used autopen, but he's aware that it's being used, 558 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 13: he's given the authorization for being used. But if Joe 559 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 13: Biden is sleeping all day and someone else is turning 560 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 13: on the autopan function and pardoning people just because the 561 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 13: occurring favors, that's a massive issue. 562 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, potentially a huge issue. 563 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: Now some big admissions from a Democrat insider. Now there 564 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: was an undercover video from Project Veritash showing DNC Vice 565 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 3: chair David Hogg revealing that Jill Biden's chief of staff 566 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: allegedly held a lot of power. 567 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: The bigger issue was like the inner circle that was 568 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: about Biden. 569 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 7: That's it, and I keep stressing, I keep strengths to 570 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 7: you another Jill Biden's chief of. 571 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 8: Staff, like had an enormous amount of hour Jill Biden, 572 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 8: Jill Biden's chief That was like an open secrett of 573 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 8: like I would avoid you. 574 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 6: You was scary. 575 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 10: What was the thing? Anthony Flord, Now. 576 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: This is something that you know a number of people 577 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: were speculating about for some times, and this revelation really 578 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: puts moments like this inter question. 579 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 14: We're grateful and Jill is here today, heard that clapping. 580 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 14: It wasn't for me. Today at the Top four meeting, 581 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 14: Jill's going to give an update on the House Initiative, 582 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 14: White House Audition. 583 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: Adam, what impact does this have on people's trusting institutions? 584 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 13: Well, it's and this is having a massive impact. You know, 585 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 13: even Democrats are questioning their entire party. They're questioning, how 586 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 13: did this man even end up in the position of power. 587 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 13: Speaking for myself, personally as a former Democrat. When I 588 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 13: saw him running for office, I asked the question as 589 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 13: to why, what is the motive behind all of this, 590 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 13: because it was very clear that he was falling apart. 591 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 13: It was very clear who's belligerent. And it's also clear 592 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 13: that the reason they wanted him is because he was controllable. 593 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 13: They were able to push all types of agendas without 594 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 13: any sort of fight from him, And he got to 595 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 13: have the title as President, and Joe Biden got to 596 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 13: be the first Lady, and. 597 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 10: So everyone was wielding power around him. 598 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 13: But no one was actually thinking about the American people 599 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 13: and what was actually happening. 600 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 10: So no, a lot of people are not having. 601 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 13: Trust in institutions insanely that they did a decade ago 602 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 13: at Lease. 603 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, And look, you can understand when those 604 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: sorts of allegations are made that people really question even 605 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: the most basic of institutions. Functions now onto a Colorado 606 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: sports brand and it's found it'sself in some trouble with 607 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: the state's anti discrimination law. 608 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: What's the story here? 609 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 13: Essentially, their new law is an antidiscriminatory law, but it's 610 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 13: a very progressive antidiscriminatory law, and Essentially, it's trying to 611 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 13: cldify that if you use certain language in advertising, that 612 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 13: it can be seen as discriminatory, and that every person 613 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 13: in Colorado supposed to have some sort of right to 614 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 13: non discriminatory advertising. So, if you're someone who is transgender 615 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 13: and believes that even though you're a biological man, you're 616 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 13: actually a woman, someone saying that trans women are men 617 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 13: is someone that is being offensive to you, and so 618 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 13: that could lead to all different types of lawsuits and 619 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 13: things of that nature. So XXXY assuming because they're putting 620 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 13: their business in jeopardy by saying biological truths that biological 621 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 13: men are men, regardless if they were addressed or not. 622 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 13: So this is essentially why they're trying to fight back 623 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 13: against the state. 624 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 10: And I hope they do. 625 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: Well well and we will say how that goes. But 626 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: I mean, this year is not a situation in isolation. 627 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: Trump's threat to cut federal funding over the mission of 628 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 3: trans athletes in women's sport has prompted a rule change 629 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: in California. 630 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: What's happened here? What's the latest with these. 631 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 13: Yeah, essentially they're reacting to Trump, but they're giving a 632 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 13: lukewarm response. 633 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 10: So the championships that they have. 634 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 13: Obviously they are trans athletes who are competing, and it's 635 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 13: of course biological men always competing in women's games. So 636 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 13: what they did was for the spots that the trans 637 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 13: athletes were taking up, they added additional spots for the 638 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 13: women who lost their spots because of the trans men 639 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 13: being there, which is superficially fine, but at the same time, 640 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 13: it doesn't remove these trans athletes who have a disadvantage 641 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 13: or who have an advantage over the women. 642 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 10: It doesn't remove. 643 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 13: Them from actually winning, so they can still take medals. 644 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 13: They still can win these competitions. 645 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 10: So it's a moot point. 646 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 13: It's like, okay, sure we'll have more women be involved 647 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 13: as they lose, Like, that's not any sort of fairness. 648 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 13: And for them to think that this actually abides by 649 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 13: what Trump is actually wanting, I think is far fetched. 650 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 10: But we'll see what happened. I think that there's more 651 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 10: changes that are coming down the pipe. But if they 652 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 10: think this is it, this is definitely not the solution. 653 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: Well, there really is a big difference between participation and competition. 654 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: So I take your point there that it is a point. 655 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: Now our next story is almost amusing because when you 656 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: think of the US Secret Service, you think of you 657 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: think of discipline, But a couple of officers have found 658 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: themselves suspended this waking well, what I would say, is 659 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: a rather unusual set of circumstances. 660 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 13: Yes, it's an unusual set of circumstances when it comes 661 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 13: to two Secret Service members fighting each other and there 662 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 13: being caught on camera outside of Obama's location. But it 663 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 13: just goes to show you the level of this array 664 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 13: that is stemming from the federal government and especially coming 665 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 13: from the Biden administration. 666 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 10: And I would wager that. 667 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 13: Some of these people, I don't know these particular agents 668 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 13: if they were hired during the Biden administration, but. 669 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 10: There is a lot of chaos that was happening. 670 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 13: We can also look at what happened with Donald Trump 671 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 13: and the assassination attempt and the failures of the Secret 672 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 13: Service that led for him to be even shot in 673 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 13: the first place. 674 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 10: So none of this shocks me. 675 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 13: But the Secret Service has a little bit of tumultuous history. 676 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 13: We've heard, you know, situations of them getting prostitutes and 677 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 13: foreign nations and things like that, So this doesn't strike 678 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 13: me as completely abnormal. 679 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: Maybe they're not as disciplined as we all give. 680 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: Them credit for. 681 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: Now, we've also learned that the FBI is revisiting a 682 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: few things. 683 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 4: Which might have potentially fallen off there. 684 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: To do list like the White House cocaine find what's 685 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 3: this all about? 686 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: And should we speak expecting any action here? 687 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 13: Personally, I don't think there's going to be any sort 688 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 13: of action. You know, we're talking a small amount of cocaine, 689 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 13: not that there should be any cocaine in the White House, 690 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 13: but it was very clear that the Biden administration wasn't 691 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 13: going to take this particular situation seriously. For all I know, 692 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 13: it could have been a staffer who left some sort 693 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 13: of cocaine at in the White House. I don't know 694 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 13: if this is that big of a deal. You know, 695 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 13: if it was a lot of cocaine, if it was 696 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 13: a large mountain of cocaine, then it would be a 697 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 13: different story. But it looks like it was for a 698 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 13: personal usage. They can do their investigation, but I don't 699 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 13: think much will come from it. 700 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 3: Now on to Democratic Senator Michael Bennett, and he's at 701 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 3: a crack at his own party or his party's brand, 702 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: I should say, And I'm sure there's some truth in it. 703 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: But shouldn't they be concerned. 704 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 3: Shouldn't these concerns be raised and dealt with internally? 705 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 10: No, I actually like it that it's public. 706 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 13: It shows that it tells the American public that they're 707 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 13: finally waking. 708 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 10: Up just a little bit. 709 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 13: There's a little bit of glimpse, a little bit of 710 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 13: a hope, but then realizing that Democratic Party is lost, 711 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 13: and they finally recognize that they're a bit lost. And 712 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 13: some of especially the blue dog Democrats, are getting fed 713 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 13: up of the progressives who've taken over, who've led this 714 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 13: charge of being anti male and talking about patriarchy and 715 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 13: everything is oppressive. So yeah, there's a bit of disgust, 716 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 13: and I'm glad it's finally happening. I am one of 717 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 13: those Democrats who walked away and became an independent because 718 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 13: of this very thing. It is a party that is 719 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 13: not appealing anymore. It doesn't speak to the majority of 720 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 13: the American population. They cater to a niche audience of 721 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 13: typically wealth the elitists, coastal elitists, and they don't speak 722 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 13: the same language I do. 723 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 10: They don't have the same concerns that I have. 724 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 13: So I'm glad that he's actually being public about it 725 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,479 Speaker 13: because while they're you know the reason for him saying 726 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 13: this is because he's anti Trump whatever, but he is 727 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 13: speaking some truth that their brand is actually terrible. 728 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 3: And I suppose for people out there, you know, like you, 729 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 3: who are worried about the brand, you're hoping that they 730 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: maybe have just worked it all out. Now, the US's 731 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 3: enemies have criticized Donald Trump's proposed one hundred and seventy 732 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 3: five billion dollar Golden Dome missile shield. Is this meant 733 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 3: to be a joke. 734 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 10: No, Actually, he's very serious about it. 735 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 13: Believes during Trump's the first administration where space force was 736 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 13: brought about, So he's very serious about reinforcing space, you know, 737 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 13: having some sort of space command looking out for the 738 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 13: America's interests when it comes to space as well. Of course, 739 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 13: North Korea and Russia aren't going to like it, trust 740 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 13: and belief. If they're the ones doing it, they wouldn't 741 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 13: be complaining. 742 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 10: So you know, they're. 743 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 13: Saying that this might turn into another space race or 744 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 13: arms race or some sort of race. But I don't 745 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 13: really care what Russia or North Korea thinks about this. 746 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 13: What I do care about is actually how much is 747 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 13: it really going to cost. Some estimates are saying that 748 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 13: his numbers are very conservative. 749 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 10: For the real. 750 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 13: Estimates maybe or times the amount that he's claiming. 751 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 10: So is this worth it? And actually, how long is 752 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 10: it going to take? 753 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 13: This is just going to be more government blow and 754 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 13: that's the thing that we should be concerned with. 755 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a definite question that the American people, 756 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure are very interested in. 757 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 6: Now. 758 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 3: MPR is suing the government over Trump's executive order, obviously, 759 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: which was aimed at the public media. What's the claim 760 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 3: and does it have any merit? 761 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 13: Yeah, their claim is that Donald Trump is impeding on 762 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 13: their First Amendment, right, but he's not. The reality is 763 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 13: that Empire's budget is about one percent coming from the 764 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 13: federal government, even if it was fifteen or fifty percent. 765 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 13: MPR is a private organization and they're not entitled to 766 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 13: federal funding. And that's the biggest problem when it comes 767 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 13: to MPR. They believe that they're entitled to the consistent, 768 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 13: the status quo of receiving money from the federal government, 769 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 13: just like much of the federal government or much of 770 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 13: the apparatus that's attached to the federal government around DC especially, 771 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 13: So no, you're not entitled to our tax money. It's 772 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 13: not Trump's money, it's my money too. So if there 773 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 13: are questions about your conduct as a private organization, the 774 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 13: federal government doesn't have to fund you. And so very 775 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 13: clearly ninety nine percent of your budget comes from elsewhere. 776 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 10: Fill in the gap. 777 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 778 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 3: He's not stopping them from saying what they're saying. He's 779 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 3: just saying that the American people aren't going to pay 780 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: for it. The two totally different things. Now once at 781 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: the US university scene, and Trump has suggested that Harvard 782 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 3: cut its international student intake to fifteen percent. Now, he's 783 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 3: gone pretty hard on the Ivy League universities. 784 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: What's this latest barb what's the pose of it? 785 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, when it comes to Harvard, they're once again upset 786 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 13: that the gravy train is ending when it comes to 787 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 13: federal funding. Even though they have over fifty billion dollars 788 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 13: in endowment they and they're essentially a mid tier hedge fund, 789 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 13: they still think that they should get as much money 790 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 13: as they possibly can from the federal government. And they 791 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 13: especially don't like it that Trump is calling into question 792 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 13: how many foreign students that they bring in and for 793 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 13: what reason? 794 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 10: And it's very clear. I mean it's an open secret. 795 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 10: You charge a. 796 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 13: Crazy amount for a crazy amount of money for foreign 797 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 13: students to come into your school. You make a lot 798 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 13: of money that way, so you just keep increasing the 799 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 13: amount of foreign students who can come through. 800 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 10: And so they're calling into. 801 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 13: Question the quality of students are coming in, the reasons 802 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 13: for taking in all these foreign students, And you know what, 803 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 13: I'm all for it. I'm all for them looking out 804 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 13: for because very clearly they're not very good at delegating 805 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 13: how many I don't know, terrorist sympathetic students who are 806 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 13: coming through, who aren't here for the American experience, who 807 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 13: are here to alter our society to some degree. And 808 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 13: granted that's not all of them, but they're obviously not 809 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 13: taking Trump's threats seriously, and so he's exercising what he 810 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 13: is saying. 811 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: Oh, he is absolutely exercising what he is saying. Adam Coleman, 812 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us. 813 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: Still to come. 814 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 3: And Megan Michael thinks her next venture will make her 815 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 3: a billionaire. 816 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 2: But she also feels guilty about being rich. 817 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 4: Kinsey Schofield joins me next. 818 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 2: To discuss that and much much more. 819 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: Welcome back, to the show, and joining me now is 820 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 3: celebrity and oral reporter Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey Megan Michael thinks 821 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 3: her latest adventure is going to make her a billionaire, 822 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 3: and yet she feels guilty about having money. 823 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, this is really getting. 824 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 15: Tysome Lemonada's ad partner is Gretchen Ruben Media, and they 825 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 15: generally pay between twenty five to fifty dollars per one 826 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 15: thousand downloads. Megan would get the high end of that 827 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 15: because of name recognition, but based on the analytics provided 828 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 15: by Fast Company magazine this week, Meghan's made approximately forty 829 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 15: thousand dollars for season one of Confessions of a Female Founder, 830 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 15: not exactly Spotify money. And if she's trying to be 831 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 15: a billionaire, I think she's going to have to hustle 832 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 15: a little bit harder in the jam and the podcasting space. 833 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, But why talk about feeling guilty about having money? 834 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 4: I mean, we all know that they have it. Why 835 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 4: are you talking about it? 836 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 3: It's really quite ghost, isn't it. 837 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: It is? 838 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 15: But that's not the line that I took away from it. 839 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 15: She talked about a scarcity mindset, and I feel like 840 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 15: that is such a reflection of the chaos we see 841 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 15: in her unleashing all of these brands, this relentless promotion. 842 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 15: It's the fear of not having enough money that I 843 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 15: really took away. 844 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: From that conversation. 845 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 3: Very interesting now speaking about one of those one of 846 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 3: those projects, and that's her lifestyle brand as Ever. Now 847 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 3: there's rumor she won't be restocking some of her products, 848 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 3: including her Jam. We have been talking about this for 849 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 3: so long, this can't actually be serious. 850 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 15: Yeah, she said that she's going to take a step 851 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 15: back and kind of try to reevaluate the as Ever 852 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 15: brand until twenty twenty six. 853 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,919 Speaker 1: She told this to Fast Company magazine. 854 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 15: Constant reinvention breeds skepticism. One minute, she's a podcast host, 855 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 15: the next a lifestyle guru, then a children's book author, 856 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 15: now a Jam entrepreneur. Reinvention isn't inherently bad, but without 857 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 15: follow through or success in any one domain, it's to 858 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 15: look like flailing, not versatility. And this inconsistency makes it 859 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 15: hard for anyone to invest emotionally or financially in Megan 860 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 15: Markle's ventures. 861 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 3: And onto that investment. And that is a really important 862 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 3: point that you make there. Do you think that her 863 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 3: well in your view, I hed. 864 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 2: Back is getting banged for back. 865 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 3: Are they starting to lose patients like at some point 866 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 3: pick something and stick with it. 867 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm sure that there is a lot of frustration. 868 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 15: I think that we saw it on full display with Spotify. 869 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 15: They just weren't as secretive as everybody else has been, 870 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 15: or they haven't had as much patience as everyone else 871 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 15: has been. Ted Sarandos still trying to tell us that 872 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 15: he thinks Megan Markle has this big cultural impact that 873 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 15: I'm patiently waiting to see exactly what is definition of 874 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 15: cultural impact means. But there has to be a lot 875 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 15: of frustration, especially just with the constant rebranding Love and 876 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 15: New that their new micro or Timu Royal Court that 877 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 15: they've created, and eleven new members that are going to help. 878 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: Rehabilitate their image. 879 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 15: It has to be exhausting for the people that have 880 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 15: invested in them to say everything seems so aimless. 881 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: Can you just focus. 882 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 3: Now onto the more celeb scene rather than Royal So 883 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 3: Lindsay Lowan, well, she's been part of the celebrity scene 884 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 3: for a very long time, but some recent rumors apparently 885 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 3: about her changing face. 886 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: What's the speculation here. 887 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 15: But she's had a facelift, and you know what, Lindsay 888 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 15: Lohan is refusing to admit that she allegedly went under 889 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 15: the knife and claims her new face is thanks to 890 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 15: listen to me when I tell you ice cold water 891 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 15: splashes to the face and drinking juice every morning like carrot, ginger, 892 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 15: lemon and apple. Oh and she's a big pickled beats person. 893 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 15: She claims she's all natur l that's not a face, 894 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 15: it's a group project. 895 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: But god, lover, she looks amazing. 896 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 4: She does look amazing, and god, we wish it was 897 00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 4: all that simple. 898 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 3: Now to the Australian celebrity scene and debor a Furness 899 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 3: Hugh Jackson, Hugh Jackman's extrange wife. Well, she has broken 900 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 3: her silence and what is a catalyst for this? 901 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: Okay? 902 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 15: So while they split in twenty twenty three, she finally 903 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 15: officially filed for divorce this week. 904 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: I think it's after these photos surfaced of. 905 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 15: Hugh Jackman moving his current girlfriend in and Devor spoke 906 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 15: about the traumatic journey of betrayal and a lengthy statement. 907 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: She told The Daily Mail on Tuesday that they're split is. 908 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 15: A profound wound that cuts deep and without naming her 909 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 15: famous husband or his girlfriend s like subtly confirmed this affair, 910 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 15: and insiders say that Hugh Jackman is extremely disappointed and blindsided. 911 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 15: He believed they had an understanding that they would not 912 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 15: publicly discuss one another. He is dodging so much negative 913 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 15: press right now because of his association with Ryan Reynolds 914 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 15: and Blake Lively. He's worried both scandals will really negatively 915 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 15: impact his popularity. 916 00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 2: That's a very very interesting point, isn't it. 917 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 3: But now want to some happier news, I suppose, and 918 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 3: some recent business news for Haley Beber. 919 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 2: What's the latest with her beauty brand? 920 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 15: Yeah, she's officially joined the coveted billionaires club. She probably 921 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 15: Megan Markle's probably calling her up right now, but she 922 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 15: her Road beauty brand reportedly has signed a deal with 923 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 15: Elf Cosmetics that's worth about one million dollars, while her husband, 924 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 15: Justin Bieber reportedly grapples with financial troubles. It was Wednesday 925 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 15: that they announced a definitive agreement. 926 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: Haley's latest milestone. 927 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 15: Fallows reports that her husband is facing financial difficulties. For 928 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 15: months now, the pop star has allegedly been dealing with 929 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,479 Speaker 15: debt linked to has canceled twenty twenty two Justice Tour, 930 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 15: So she's the breadwinner today. 931 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 3: But I also think it's a great story from an entrepreneurship. 932 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 2: Point of view. 933 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 3: And you know, we were talking about Megan Markel earlier, but 934 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 3: he is someone who started approaching and went on to 935 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 3: be successful with it. And I think that that shows 936 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 3: real paradox, don't you. 937 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: Three years, this has existed for three years, and she 938 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: was so savvy. 939 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 15: The phone case that holds the lip glass, the lip 940 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 15: glass that's the exact shape of hers. Yeah, I mean, 941 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 15: and she's utilized the influencer title to actually generate an 942 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 15: incredible revenue and an incredible product. I have two of 943 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 15: her lip glasses in my makeup bag right now. So 944 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,240 Speaker 15: it is an exciting project. And she is torn apart 945 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 15: on the internet regularly. There are a lot of similarities 946 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 15: between her and Megan Markle. So Meghan might want to 947 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 15: pick up the phone and say, do you mind mentoring 948 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 15: me a little bit here? 949 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be the very good point, Absolutely an 950 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 3: excellent point. Now, so much in the news about brigetting 951 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 3: Emmanuel mccronin whatever that particular incident was, but a lip 952 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 3: reader has weighed in on it. So what did they 953 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 3: have to say about what was said during this incident? 954 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: I cannot get enough of this story. 955 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 15: After the incident, a lipreader claims things turn icy again 956 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 15: once the couple start down the stairs to the tarmac. 957 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 15: The president offers his arm to his wife. She ignores it, 958 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 15: clinging to the railing instead, and the lip reader claims as. 959 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,919 Speaker 1: She passes, she appears to mutter, stay away, you lose her. 960 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 15: Emanuel apparently replied to her by saying, let's try please 961 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 15: to what she allegedly answered no, And the expert described 962 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 15: it as a rare, unguarded exchange that hints at deeper 963 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 15: tensions between the couple. 964 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 3: Now you've said that there's nothing that you don't love 965 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 3: about this story, So what I mean, Look, we all 966 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 3: saw it, and it was it was really quite. It 967 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 3: was quite bruising in a I suppose a figurative as 968 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 3: well as a literal sense. But we don't often get 969 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 3: to say these sorts of things. What were the things 970 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 3: that were notable that really stood out to you. 971 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 7: In this. 972 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 15: But you know Emmanuel saying we were just being playful, 973 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 15: I mean to me, we were just being playful. 974 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't anything you're jumping to conclusions. 975 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 15: That's why I hope I'm not being insensitive when I 976 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 15: say I love everything about this story. But it was 977 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 15: just such a voyeuristic moment, and I hope they were 978 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 15: just being playful. But the story just seems to have 979 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 15: so much meat that we have yet to get to. 980 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think there's probably I think you're quite right. 981 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 3: I think there's probably a bit more to that. Kinsey Schofield, 982 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 3: thank you so much, thank you, And that's it for 983 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 3: me tonight up next to his Newsnight, good Night,