1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: We've always been great sounding boards for each other, to 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: the extent that I have very few ideas that have 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: ever gotten out into the world that Lucy hasn't thought 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: much of. So if Lucy doesn't like something, I know 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: that it's probably not right. Not just about taste, but 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: more about is this adequately communicating what it is you 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: want to be communicating. 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to separate bathrooms. My name's Cameron Daddo. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: I'm Ali Daddo. 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: How are you, sweetheart. 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: I'm really good. 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: You look good on that red couch. 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Very happy to be back in 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: the bathroom. 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: Are you excited about today's couple? 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: I am. 17 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 4: I know that we've been looking forward to talking to 18 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 4: Eddie and his wife Lucy. Eddie Perfect and his wife 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 4: Lucy Cochrane. You met Eddie before, and his career really 20 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 4: took off while we were living in the USA, and 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 4: he's one of those artists that just sprung up for us. 22 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: He was already part of the Australian show biz tapestry 23 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 4: when we came back, and now he's just gone on 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: and on and on to greater things. 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: Yep, you might know him from Offspring. He played Mick 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: and wrote his own songs for that show. 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: He's gone on to write Beetlejuice the musical, of course 28 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: a lot. 29 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: You've got a lot of notoriety for writing a musical 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: about a sports star. Shane Warn Shane Warn the musical, 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: which I missed. I haven't seen it. He might mention 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: a little bit about us. 33 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: Maybe he's married to the gorgeous Lucy. They've got two kids, 34 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: Kitty and Charlotte, and Lucy's been his support and cheerleader 35 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 4: since they met. So let's bring them into the bathroom. 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Do other guests fan out on you guys when they 37 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: start yours? 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 5: Because I'm like, I need to get this out. 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: We need to like that's like there's no payment for this, 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: but there needs to be, Like our payment needs to 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: be we get to fan out on you. 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 5: For five minutes. 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: You guys are like very culturally significant to us. 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 6: Alison Bray, my god, you were you still as I 45 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 6: was like the suburban girl that waited till the first 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 6: or second day of the month to get Dolly and 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 6: was obsessed And because I grew up without any women 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 6: in my life, so no mama, no sisters, so Dolly 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 6: was like my primary information source for everything, and you 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 6: were like, you know, I had love eyes for you, 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 6: and I think you had freckles and I or moles 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 6: or something and I had like a mile So I 53 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 6: was all like, yes, you know, we've got most. 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: Was in common. In fact, they've multiplied enormously. I've gotten older, 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: of course, but. 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and then when I saw just when I saw, 57 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 6: I think it's the story. 58 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 5: The story played out. 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 6: I think in like the notes content about you guys 60 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 6: getting together, like them setting you up or something. 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 5: I don't know if that is. 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: True, Dolly Dolly, Yeah, yeah. 63 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 5: You got set up. 64 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 6: And I read the whole thing and I just remember thinking, 65 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 6: I just imagine how it would be like to be them, 66 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 6: Like that is so glamorous. 67 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: So nice, and you're still married and you're doing a 68 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: podcast and. 69 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 5: Lovely and it's lovely. 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: Good on you guys. 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: We've made it so far thirty years and we're not 72 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 4: too shabby. 73 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: Thirty years. It's really impressive. 74 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 6: I know. 75 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah years December we're married. How about you, guys? How 76 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: did you two meet? 77 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: We met on the dance floor of Revolver Nightclub on 78 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: Chapel Street in Paran at about I don't know, seven 79 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: am on a Sunday morning seven am. 80 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: So you've been there all night? 81 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, well no, we've been other places. It's 82 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: one of those places that kind of kicks off, you know, 83 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: you go out to other places and then it's like 84 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: Sunday morning had a really great DJ. So it's sort 85 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: of a bit of a Melbourne institution. Dirty couches everywhere, 86 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: like really dirty house music. And I met Lucy on 87 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: on the dance floor in front of the DJ booth, 88 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: which was made out of the bumper bar of like 89 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: a truck or something very rugged than Melbourne and kill 90 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: and yeah, that's that's how we And then we She 91 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: gave me her business card and we court it via 92 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: email essentially, so we wrote each other, you know, heavily 93 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: constructed emails that were made to appear like they were 94 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: just throw away, a little endless. 95 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: Cool something I threw together. 96 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: Emails are good, or letters are good because you can 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: actually sit down and think about what you want to 98 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: write and how you want to come across. 99 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, that's it. 100 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 6: It was very It was It was lovely because Eddie 101 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 6: and I both we like ideas and language, and so 102 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 6: it was a really nice way to court because he 103 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 6: was on tour, so that's why we were only emailing. 104 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 6: And yeah, it was a lovely, exciting way to kind 105 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 6: of get together. It was pretty nerve wracking the first 106 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 6: time we actually hung out, but yeah, it was weird, 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 6: but lucky it all worked down. 108 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we we've been together for about twelve years 109 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: and no longer than that. 110 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 5: She's a twelve year old. 111 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 6: We've got a twelve year old, like fifteen years or something. 112 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: We got married into two thousand and eleven. 113 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: Now, what was the part of that story when you 114 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: guys met that Lucy, You were standing up to some 115 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: drunk dude and that is. 116 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: There any truth to that story? 117 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: Yes? 118 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 5: There was. 119 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: Eddie was really impressed and went look at this girl. 120 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 6: Go yeah, yeah, he was scary in hindsight. I he 121 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 6: was just like a really drunk on the dance floor, 122 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 6: really big, and he because I was I'm short, and 123 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 6: he just knocked me out of the way and I 124 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 6: went flying. And I just stood up to him and 125 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 6: said like hey and pulled him back and said you're 126 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 6: being that's really rude. And then he got quite aggressive. 127 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: And you got up and when he didn't apologize, you 128 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: pushed him over. 129 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 5: Okay, so Lucy. 130 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: This, she got up. She got hit pretty hard by 131 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: this guy and he didn'tim notice, and Lucy just got 132 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: enraged and turned around and shoved this guy and he 133 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: went sprawling and he was furious. I didn't know what 134 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: was going on, and Lucy was like, you're really rude, 135 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: and he was like threatening to punch Lucy's head. 136 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 6: I remember holding his fist up, and I remember my 137 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 6: brain doing the quick analysis of going, he's either he 138 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 6: can't punch me because so many people are watching, or 139 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 6: if he does, it probably won't be hard. So because 140 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 6: so many people are watching. So but I basically says 141 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 6: he probably wouldn't. And I just actually, I remember now 142 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 6: this is this is so it's like so long ago, 143 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 6: so it feels that is who I am. 144 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 5: But I was like, I can do it now. 145 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 146 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 6: I basically he had his fist up and I just 147 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 6: put the loser hand up to his face and loser yeah, 148 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 6: and his friends pulled him away. 149 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 150 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 6: And Eddie was watching the whole thing. 151 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: He's like kill I was like, oh my god, this 152 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: is this is like properly out of control. He got 153 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: dragged out and then Lucy went off about it. She went, 154 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: she left, She gave me a business card and she left, 155 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: and then he was there kind of like on the 156 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: other side of the room, pointing at me, and I 157 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to get beaten up if I 158 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: get out of here. So that was pretty I don't think. 159 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 6: That that We stayed for ages after that. He was 160 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 6: just doing doing that I thing at me. Yeah, but no, no, 161 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 6: I remember Eddie freaking out like looking at me, going 162 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 6: oh my god. And then I just turned to him 163 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 6: and did this like whatever, shrug like shrugged it often 164 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 6: care and I remember you being climb pressed impressed. 165 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: By So what was the attraction for both of you? 166 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: I started off with like words and ideas and human like, 167 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: we're like we just instantly found each other funny and 168 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: easy to chat to and and I obviously attracted to 169 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: each other. And then when we yeah, then we were 170 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: we just found it really interesting to kind of communicate ideas, 171 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: and in the beginning, like the differences is in our 172 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: two worlds were pretty pronounced and seemed to be like obstacles, 173 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, But we met in the middle in a 174 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: really interesting place that I don't think anyone from either 175 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: of our camps sort of understood, which was we met 176 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: in the middle talking about interested in the same things ideas, words, concepts, 177 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: communicating to people and through our own work and our 178 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: own community, trying to change people's behavior. And we're also 179 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: very interested in how people work and how people think, 180 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: and how how sort of flawed and fallible human beings are. 181 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: And that's always you know, the psychology of human beings. 182 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: And that's why Lucy's gone on beyond advertising to to 183 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: be doing her honors in psychology. And you know, we've 184 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: always been We've always been really interested in the work, 185 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: like what is a take to communicate ideas to people 186 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: and change people's minds. I think that's where we kind 187 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: of met with them. 188 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: So do you guys help each other with your work? 189 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 190 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, we will help each other with out with work. 191 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm annoyed didn't get a credit on Beetlejews 192 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 6: to be honest. Yeah, And we definitely help each other 193 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 6: with that work, like because it is the same, Like 194 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 6: writing a song is very similar to when you kind 195 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 6: of crack an idea in advertising as well, like what's 196 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 6: the way in what's the insight? And a song you 197 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 6: have to have a really clear, simple idea that can 198 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 6: kind of expand in interesting ways, which is exactly the 199 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 6: same as cracking an advertising idea. So then you need 200 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 6: to think of different ways in think at the different 201 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 6: levels of conceptually versus execution. 202 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 5: Yes, so we discussed that all the time. 203 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 6: And I find it odd actually when other people, other 204 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 6: friends in relationships, don't know what their partner is doing 205 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 6: at work, Like I just I'm so across what Eddie's doing. 206 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 6: I could even be like he's trying to crack this 207 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 6: particular song on this particular problem like I and I 208 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 6: get you know, excited about what he's working on and 209 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,479 Speaker 6: ad vice versa. 210 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, Eddie will help me. 211 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 6: Let's the psychologist because it's my academic but. 212 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: I can imagine it must have helped you when you're advertising. 213 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: Though, yes, yeah, yeah, should take an idea out for 214 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: a walk before you kind of commit to it. And 215 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, we've always been great sound im boards for 216 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: each other, to the extent that I have very few 217 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: ideas that have ever gotten out into the world that 218 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: Lucy hasn't thought much of. So if Lucy doesn't like something, 219 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: I know that it's probably not right, not just about tastes, 220 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: but more about is this adequately communicating what it is 221 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: you want to be communicating. And you know, so we 222 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: talk about the work within. 223 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 6: You know. 224 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: The great thing about our jobs even as they change, 225 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: as they yeah they're all they're creative, but they're in 226 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: response to the world and what's going on in the world. 227 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: So we talk about what's going on in the world, 228 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: and we talk about, you know, what's happening in politics 229 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: or in culture, or in fashion or you know, like 230 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: and it's a kind of a yeah, it's one of 231 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: those relationships where I think that's what makes it kind 232 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: of easy to maintain, describe our relationships easy to maintain. 233 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: But is that it's it's you know, it's like having 234 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: a you know, a sparring partner on the on the 235 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: journey who was also exploring a changing world and also 236 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: exploring other facets of contemporary culture and politics and you 237 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: know whatever religious influences or you know, television or media 238 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: or whatever. Like, you know, we're we're on the same 239 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: train and we're having the same conversation and it evolves 240 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: all the time. And I think that is really useful 241 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: for a relationship and sustaining a relationship. And I don't 242 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: know how to be any other way. So when we 243 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: meet other people who are like, we don't talk about 244 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: my partners, don't really know what I'm writing, or I 245 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: don't really know what she's doing, I'm always like, that's weird. 246 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: How do you talk about it? 247 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 5: I mean, I guess the news and stuff like that. 248 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, but that, yeah, it's certainly what is the kind 249 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 6: of interesting bit. 250 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: It just reminded me. 251 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 6: Actually Eddie and I broke up for a short time, 252 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 6: and I remember she was right right at the start, 253 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 6: and because it was kind of intense and tumultuous and 254 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 6: the first she was actually very cult of our relationship, 255 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 6: whereas most of my other relationships they've been the other 256 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 6: way around, like super easy, and then you realize it's 257 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: not quite working, whereas it was for us. It was 258 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 6: very difficult the first twelve months, but we persevered and 259 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 6: it's great got easier as it went along. But I 260 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 6: remember reading the news and thinking, every time I read 261 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 6: the news, I really miss Eddie, Like I just miss because. 262 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: I miss someone to talk to about it. 263 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm like, I see what's going on, and I 264 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 6: just want to talk to him about it. So I 265 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 6: hadn't thought about that family news, but yeah, that kind 266 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 6: of thing, Like I just love I love Eddie's brain 267 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 6: and his point of view on things. It's just he's 268 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 6: so insightful and kind and analytical and sort of interesting 269 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 6: way thinks about things. So it's just it's cool to 270 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 6: have someone to talk to you about stuff in interesting ways. 271 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 4: Now that you're a psychologist, is that I'm not ever. 272 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 6: Not a psychologist, not getting in trouble with the psychology. 273 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: You're studying it, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, our son is too, 274 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: so that's true. Correct, Like do you ever do you 275 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: ever sort of psychoanalyze Eddie? Like does that ever come out? 276 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: Or you go, You've got. 277 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: Narcissistic traits right now? Like I can't even believe you 278 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: just said that? Or does that? Has it ever become 279 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: a part of the conversation. 280 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 6: It doesn't, because probably more a reflection on Eddie than me, 281 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 6: because I think Eddie is one of the most mentally 282 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 6: sound people discovering. 283 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, good thing. 284 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 6: He's just he's just yeah, he's very I've got another friend, 285 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 6: Sarah Bailey, who's the same. They're just very like you're 286 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 6: like people that have been to therapy for ten years, 287 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 6: like they're just the Brent has a very good attitude 288 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 6: towards things, and so there's nothing to sort of psychoanalyze really. 289 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: But whereas with Lucy. 290 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 6: I'm diagnosing myself with everything I know. 291 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: I mean, that happens, doesn't it? That mustard? 292 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: I think so. I also think I think the stereotype. 293 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 6: Of people that study it sort of have got some 294 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 6: sort of slightly quirky tendencies as well. 295 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: So I started listening to the Esther Perel's podcast you 296 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: Know where should we begin on my morning dog walks? 297 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: And it was not good. 298 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: No, that wasn't good for you, It wasn't good for me. 299 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: Why is that? 300 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: Man? 301 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: What was it about Esther? 302 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I really like I really like her, 303 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: and I think that she has like fantastic insights. That's 304 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: what's so like entertaining about it is that she'll be 305 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: like she's able to quickly piece together a narrative and 306 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: present it to her clients or her patients or what 307 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: ever you want to call them, in a way that 308 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: rings true for them almost immediately. So she's very good 309 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: putting the pieces together. And so from like a right 310 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: point of view, I find it really interesting to see 311 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: why people behave the way they behave based on their history, 312 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: and you know, I find people interesting, but it does 313 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: start me on a path of kind of like analyzing 314 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: things myself, and I actually don't. It's not you know, 315 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: it's not that I deal with like the world by 316 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: being ignorant or you know, just shoving everything down into 317 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: a and locking it in a cage. But it's just 318 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: not an energy place that is useful for me, you know. 319 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: I like, I'm very much look it's a it's a 320 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: positive thing, but it's also a faulty looking forward person, 321 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, Like I'm like just living in you know, 322 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: living now and living forward, and I don't really like 323 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: to look back. And I'm not big on nostalgia and 324 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm not you know huge. I like to be self aware, 325 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: but I'm not big on self analysis because I'm actually 326 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm actually not sure what how I don't find it. 327 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't find it help for knowing stuff doesn't help me. 328 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, you just don't. You don't do it. 329 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 6: You're not indulging in that way, ei though. You don't 330 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 6: revel in the what was me? Or yeah, you are 331 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 6: very forward movie, which is good like the I'm always 332 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 6: admired for, say, reviews and things like a negative review 333 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 6: comes up. How he sort of manages that I would 334 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 6: personally just not read it, or but you're very good 335 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 6: at do you do. 336 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: You read the reviews? 337 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: Not that you've ever had a bad review. I imagine, Oh, well, actually, 338 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: well we can talk about. 339 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: I've got a great story about discussing the failure of 340 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: Shane warn the Musical with your Brother Live on air 341 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: and radio. Cameron. Really Shane Warnan the Musical had just 342 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: closed early, and it had terrible reviews, but also they weren't. 343 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 6: Our average reviews in Sydney average. 344 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just along. Sorry, but like some very strange 345 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: stuff went down to kind of undermine that show. And 346 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: the day that I found out we were closing early, 347 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: I was scheduled to talk to your brother Andrew on 348 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: radio about the show, and I just wanted to be 349 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: really honest about what was going on because it was 350 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: supposed to be one of those like you know, you know, 351 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: how's the show gets so exciting and I was like, 352 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: it's failed. And Andrew was like, oh, I'm sure it's 353 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's going great. I was like, no, you 354 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: need to understand the whole thing has died. And he 355 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: was like, oh, right, right, and I was really, I 356 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: really about golfing. He was like trying to like he 357 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: was trying to pump the air into the tires, and 358 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I really need to sit in 359 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: the failure of this. But you know, like, isn't life 360 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: really just about kind of like absorbing disappointment and trying 361 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: not to let it turn you bitter, like just trying 362 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: to keep it going. 363 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 4: I mean, your success has been huge since then. I 364 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: mean some people might have crumbled under under that, but 365 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: you've got into gone on to such huge success, including 366 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: you know, actually moving to New York and having is 367 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: it you had two shows on at once, didn't you. 368 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, it was crazy. The whole thing 369 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: was at one point you could stand on Broadway, on 370 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: the street of Broadway in between fiftieth and fifty third Street, 371 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: and you could kind of see both the marquee for 372 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: King Kong at the Broadway Theater and the marquee for 373 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: Beatlejuice at the Winter Garden Theater because they were like 374 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: diagonally opposite each other. It was extraordinary. And then King 375 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Kong was a fucking disaster and closed. But for about 376 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, two months, there were that you could 377 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: see both of them, and that was like, I guess symbolic. 378 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: You know. I used to ride one of those what 379 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: are they those city bikes you know, yeah, the public 380 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: bikes into you know, work at Broadway. I mean you 381 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: walk past the theater and you'd wave at the Marquee. 382 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: It was like the New York is crazy. But the 383 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: reality of it also was that, you know, there was 384 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: a lot of really complex, difficult stuff going on as well, 385 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of like, yeah, like it's 386 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: a beast that industry, you know, very very competitive, quite 387 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: mean and mean spirited. And so that was a sumonltuous 388 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: couple of years. We're I think it aged is well, 389 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: aged me about ten years and two. 390 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: You took your two girls with you obviously, Yeah, is 391 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 4: that right? How was that for you? 392 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 3: Lucy? Upending everything and moving over there. 393 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 6: I was probably pushing for it earlier than even Eddie 394 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 6: was in terms of like, you've got to get your 395 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 6: stuff overseas. 396 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 5: So I was pumped. 397 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 6: About it, and I managed to get a work contract 398 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 6: in Amsterdam on the way through. So we had this 399 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 6: great stint where I was That was my little dream 400 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 6: to work in Amsterdam and advertising because weirdly, Amsterdam is 401 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 6: really big for advertisings and how yeah, this big advertising community, 402 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 6: and yes, we had this really great dreamland. So I 403 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 6: was happy. And then I didn't work over there for 404 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 6: the first year because I was just took the cheerleading 405 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 6: role of making sure, you know, Eddie was working insane 406 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 6: hours under insane pressure, and the girls were going to 407 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 6: a new school and Upper West Side mom so like 408 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 6: the whole. 409 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 5: Thing was quite intense. 410 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 6: But so I kind of yeah, I yeah, spent that 411 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 6: first year just being cheerleader, I guess, which I'm glad 412 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 6: I got to do hanging out in Equinox Gym, which 413 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 6: is pretty fancy gym. Yeah, good soap. So yeah, I 414 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 6: was quite happy to move over there. 415 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lucy was the reason that I ever got to 416 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: write a Broadway musical because I was winging about you know, 417 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: I think I just finished writing some songs to strictly boring, 418 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: but I'd never I was never the composer. It was 419 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: never my score to kind of, you know, advocate for shape. 420 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: I was just writing sort of song to song with 421 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: that project, which is fine, that's the way it was. 422 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: But I was frustrated at the end of it, just 423 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: like you know, man in Australia, I'm just never gonna 424 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: get my hands on a score. I'm never going to 425 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: be in the room, never gonna work collaboratively with a 426 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, a book writer and you know, and you know, 427 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: a prop musical director in the way that people doing 428 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: in New York on Broadway. And Lucy was like, just 429 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: buy a ticket and go, and so she gave me 430 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: permission to do that, and I just started going. I 431 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: mean they were like really quite fruitless trips in the beginning, 432 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: and just kind of like go to New York for 433 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: a few days and then come back. 434 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: You know, what would you do on those on those 435 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: short trips would you take would you be taken meetings 436 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: with agents? 437 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, try and take meetings Like I got an agent, 438 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean my. 439 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 5: I mean that was a big deal. 440 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: That is a huge deal. 441 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 6: Great to get you got that reasonably quickly. 442 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got an agent really quickly. And then and 443 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: he's a great agent. But then, you know, we weren't 444 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: quite sure what to do after that, and it was 445 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: just basically me, you know, seeing a lot of shows 446 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: in New York, seeing what kind of theater was being 447 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: made and what the standard was. But also, you know, 448 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: both on Broadway and off Broadway. You know, I'd go 449 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: for coffee with people and meet up with people, and 450 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: it didn't seem to be really going anywhere. But then 451 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: when Beatle Juice surfaced as a project that was looking 452 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: for a composer lyricist, I asked to pitch on it 453 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: and they said no. And then I told my agent 454 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: to ask them if they'd be okay with me writing 455 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: a couple of songs for free, you know, just I 456 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: would just write them, And so we went back to 457 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: them with that and they they agreed. So that was 458 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: how I got to even get into the pitch. I 459 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: was just like, how do I get There's no there's 460 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: no doors opening. As soon as I saw this one, 461 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: I was like Beatle Juice. I was like, I don't. 462 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: I will pay you money if you let me write songs, 463 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, to audition for you. And to their credit, 464 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: like the producers gave me that gig and they had 465 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: never laid eyes on me. They didn't know about any 466 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: of my other career as an actor or a comedian 467 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: or a performer or any of that stuff. They were 468 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: just that was just the name and a guy sending 469 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: in demos and they were like, we really like these demos, 470 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: and they gave me the job. You know. 471 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 6: The agent was his agent's got a lot of sweat, 472 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 6: like clout, that's the word, and so I think he 473 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 6: really backed eighty as well. 474 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: So yeah, that helped. 475 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 6: So I wasn't completely random, but still still great. 476 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: When you guys moved back, was it was it sort. 477 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 4: Of like a relief or was it a cultural shock 478 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: coming back out of New York again. 479 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: Well, we came back at the start of the pandemic 480 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: March twenty twenty. Broadway had shut down like the week before. 481 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: And why you came back because of the pandemic. 482 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: No, it was just perfect timing. We were planning on 483 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: coming back anyway. I think it would have been quite 484 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: the ordeal if we were planning on staying there, because 485 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: we would have had to have then decided to pack 486 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: up and leave in the middle of a pandemic and 487 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: it was already getting like New York. 488 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 5: Was lockdown when we left. 489 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird, and it. 490 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 6: Like the it was weird. It was like everyone on 491 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 6: the plane with masks, but it felt, you know, apocalyptic 492 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 6: then now I guess so used to it. But it 493 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 6: was all very heightened. 494 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, no food left in any of the stores, like 495 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: Trader Joe's was just empty. It was so weird. So 496 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: we got out of there. We're fortunately we're leaving anyway. 497 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: I was coming back to do a musical that never 498 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: eventuated with nine to five, the Dolly Parton Musical, Oh Y, 499 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: and so we flew into Sydney where I was supposed 500 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: to rehearsal and the show had been canceled by then, 501 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: so we just were a in the company accommodation that 502 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: was an Airbnb in Bronti and we did the first 503 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: bit of Lockdown there and that was crazy as we 504 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: were quarrying obviously for two weeks. And so we came 505 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: from Lockdown New York to Lockdown Sydney, and then we've 506 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: had some version of Lockdown ever since over two years. 507 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: So all of these kind of like dangling carrots about it. 508 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: We're going to come back to Australia and reconnect with 509 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: friends and family and the culture. 510 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 5: And our kids. 511 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 6: Like a big thing was we just want to make 512 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 6: sure our kids have their luck because they're at twelve 513 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 6: and nine now, we just want them to squeeze the 514 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 6: last bit out of their childhood of being kids because 515 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 6: New York ages up kids like that, they get so 516 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 6: mature early, and like we just want to let them 517 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 6: have a childhood and we just we're talking about it 518 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 6: this morning. We're just so sad that we've run away 519 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 6: from that to just keep our kids are just on 520 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 6: screens all the time, and the lockdown and it's it's brutal. 521 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: Rut and where you know, we've been all right through 522 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: all lockdowns, but this sixth, this sixth one has really 523 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: kind of kicked the of everybody because because the goal 524 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: I think maybe because the goal has changed, you know, 525 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: like it used to be, you know, get the numbers down. 526 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: Now it's just like, oh God, just get everybody vaccinated 527 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: and deal with it. So we're going to going out 528 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: to an uncertain world. 529 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 6: But at least you're not the last last one though, 530 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 6: but it's we hope it true. Actually you don't. 531 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: Even know that, yeah, And that's the thing we don't know. 532 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: We just got to know each day as a gift we. 533 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: Go somewhere or you come back from somewhere after a time, 534 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: you have that kind of a new energy, you know 535 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like like I'm going to do you 536 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: know this, this this time, I'm going to do this 537 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: and I'm going to like, you know, make better connections 538 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: with friends, and I'm going to go and you know, 539 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to see all of these shows and gigs 540 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do this and do that. 541 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 6: And then people were excited to see us because we've 542 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 6: been away, and then all. 543 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: Of that went away, and then we just ran out 544 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: of energy and we're just like, oh god, I. 545 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 6: Know it's been It's yeah, we kind of have to 546 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 6: read a fund who we are Melbourne again? Like we're 547 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 6: just like what We're just it's so weird. This amount 548 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 6: of lockdown, it. 549 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: Really starts and that takes energy, friends, and doesn't it. 550 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: It takes energy to find out to go Okay, what's 551 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: the purpose? What are we doing next week? 552 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? 553 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: But I don't know. We've had to do a lot 554 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: of start startovers. What do you do for friends and stuff? 555 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: Are you good at like going to a new place 556 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: and going right? We've got to find people, got to 557 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: find out crew or are you like different socially or 558 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: how does it? How do you guys work? 559 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 6: Well? 560 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: I think it's the easiest way when you've got kids 561 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: at school, because they start having playdates with their friends 562 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: and then you meet their parents. But because it's what 563 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: the hardest transition for me coming after living in Los 564 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: Angeles for so long was most of my really good 565 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: mates are in Melbourne and we're in Sydney. But people 566 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: when they get in their fifties have already got their 567 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: friendship groups set up. They're not looking to make new friends. 568 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: And so you'll get invited out for coffee, but you 569 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: don't get invited to the barbecue, and and that's a 570 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: tricky one. So you've just got to be patient and 571 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: then keep I think, keep taking the action. If you 572 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: want to be friends with someone, you've got to keep 573 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: making that call going you know, what do you do? 574 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: And it's it can be tough. 575 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you kill one of their friends, murdered one of 576 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: their existing friends. 577 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 4: And the logical right, I'm writing that down, Eddie, That's 578 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 4: how I'm going to do it. 579 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be writing a book about friendship. 580 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: What's what's next? 581 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: Is New York back on the cards. 582 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: Or is it just yeah, where you're at. 583 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 6: No no lost the ability to plan to be honest? 584 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 5: Really that's say that jokingly, but I think we. 585 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Are trying to keep it like we are trying to 586 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: kind of create a you know, a domestic kind of 587 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: plan where it's like we have our house here in Brunswick. 588 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: We've got a house on the peninsula, and we're like 589 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: getting up We're going to get like a pool put 590 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: in there so that it's like a fun place and 591 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: it's not a fancy house, but like to make it 592 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: like a fun sort of weekend. 593 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. I think that's that's a reaction to like being 594 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 6: out of control. We're like, how can we make sure 595 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 6: we've got a fun base that we no one can 596 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 6: say you can't you can't travel or I think we've 597 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 6: had so many things sort of like taken away or 598 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 6: you know, my family's got family all over and. 599 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: Stuffy, so we can't do that. 600 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 6: So we're just sort of like, how do we make 601 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 6: a world that's fun that we can control? 602 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: And we want to get our girls through the education 603 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: system like that you know, primary and then high school 604 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: all the way through that that's a big thing, and 605 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: that means that we're going to stay here. I mean, 606 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: I'm still writing stuff for America, and I presume I'll 607 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: have to kind of like go over occasionally to workshop 608 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: it like I did when I was writing the other musicals, 609 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: Like you, I write here and then I just go 610 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: there to do workshops and then come home. But yeah, 611 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: we just planned. 612 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 6: To be here, and yeah, definitely that was a big 613 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 6: thing of coming back to We were like very conscious 614 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 6: that the girls that had that disruption, we wanted, you know, 615 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 6: teenage years that she would know fu way better than me, 616 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 6: tricky to navigate, So we wanted to give them as 617 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 6: much stability, same school, same all of those things to. 618 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 5: Get them through high school. 619 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 6: So that's kind of our focus actually, the kids getting 620 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 6: them through. 621 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what you come up with next, 622 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: both of you. 623 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, neither. 624 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: I heard a great I had a great one the 625 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: other day and it was about someone said, when you've 626 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: been buried by life, you're not being buried. You've been 627 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: planted and you're going to be come up again. 628 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 5: That's a nice. 629 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: Hey, we do a thing called the two minute Shower. 630 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: It's quick answers, water conservation, all that sort of stuff. 631 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: So pretend you're in the shower. We're going to ask 632 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: you a question since we're in the bathroom, and we 633 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: want you both to answer the question as quickly. 634 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: Are we in the shower together, when you're. 635 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 4: In the shower together, right in the shower together, who 636 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 4: would have thought? 637 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: Okay, first question. 638 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: It's for the environment, guys. The environment is nothing weird about. 639 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: It, that's all it is. 640 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: And water has been reticulated as well. 641 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 4: So now this may be a weird question now that 642 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 4: we're all in the shower together. But what is your 643 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 4: best quality about us? 644 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: What's what's your best quality? 645 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: Lucy? 646 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 6: Oh gosh, I've got I'm maybe being perceptive. 647 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: Yes, that's good. I think you know. I'm courageous. That's 648 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: what we creatively courageous. Maybe not another way. 649 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: What's your partner's best quality. 650 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: Lucy's best quality is I'd go with there's a lot 651 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: of them, but I would go with insightful, cure. 652 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 6: But I would have said courageous as well, like being brave. 653 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 6: Oh god, I'm now I'm really suck But you're incredibly 654 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 6: you're an optimist, you're very like Yes, and that's. 655 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: Still it awesome. Yes, New York Bagel or Lamington New York. 656 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 6: Bagel, New York Bagel profecably from suckers. 657 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: That's a lot easier than YEA food based questions everything 658 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: that's the New York Order evidently, Hey, who do you admire? 659 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: I admire people like Jim Henson and Sir David Attenborough 660 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: and you know those people that sort of like blaze 661 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: their own trail no matter what it is they do, 662 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: they're so passionate about it that they draw other people 663 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: into seeing their passion and creating their own passion for it. 664 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: I think that's They're the kinds of people that I admire, 665 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: And I admire them in music and in film and 666 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: in art, and you know people that are just like passion. 667 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm too, actually admire a lot of you know, 668 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 6: this kind of new wave of female journalists sort of 669 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 6: done a lot of digging, Like there's a few of them, 670 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 6: Smith the Maine, Lauratingle Louise Milligan, and they've really done 671 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 6: They're changing a lot of the conversations we're having. So 672 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 6: I like those women as a collecting Yeah, I love that. 673 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 3: What does your perfect day look like? 674 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: Wow? 675 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 6: Having magically like done a lot of work, so I 676 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 6: have a like by ten am, so I've got a 677 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 6: sense of achievement. Yeah, and then having you know, because 678 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 6: you need the work to be able to feel like 679 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 6: you really deserve. 680 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. 681 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 5: Relax. 682 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean like. 683 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: Just being in like a really sunny beer garden and 684 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: drinking like really good beer with friends and laughing a lot. 685 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: That's a lot of fun. But then also, you know, 686 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: maybe like being in the ocean and surfing on them 687 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: like a beautiful conditions, that's really amazing too. But then 688 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: I guess like on the greatest are the best feeling 689 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: is like the sits probe for a new musical you've written, 690 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: when you hear the orchestra and the cast performing it together. 691 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: There's nothing quite as exciting as that. So I'll probably 692 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: go with that one on the workfront, right, All. 693 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: Right, last question, your partner in one word. 694 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: I have to do with that being totally cheesy. 695 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, be cheesy. Come on, this is the cheesy network. 696 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: You want cheesy honest? How about that unshakable. 697 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: The unshakable lucy. 698 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 5: Y god, I just just say happiness. He's my happiness. 699 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: And yeah that part like partner. I know it's really bored, 700 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: but like you know, like an actual partner. 701 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, beautiful, not like a. 702 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: Partner, you know, like a partner in life. 703 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: Fantastic. 704 00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 4: You guys, got. 705 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: Unshakeably happy. Thank you so much for being on separate bathrooms. 706 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for talking with us. Great to see you. 707 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: That's a pleasure. 708 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 3: Hang in there. 709 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 4: I think we're with the lights on at the end 710 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: of the tunnel for getting out of lockdowns. That we're 711 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 4: almost there. 712 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I hope we get to catch up in persons. 713 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll invite into a barbecue. 714 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: Straight into the barbecue. 715 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: Let just go and murder one of my friends. 716 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 4: Now, Cam won't get drunk, so you've got to push 717 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 4: him over, Lucy, don't worry. 718 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 5: No, you can. Yeah, we're very unjudging. 719 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: Thanks. Guys. 720 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 4: Well, they are some very creative, smart people, I would think. Yeah, 721 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 4: I think their daughters are going to be probably like 722 00:36:54,040 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 4: in Mensa or something. Just smart, just really smart people, 723 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 4: really lovely. And when he said partner about. 724 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 7: That, that was really clear, really clear that they are 725 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 7: great partners. Just have each other's back, you know, knowing 726 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 7: what each other is doing. 727 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 3: And yeah, it's really beautiful. 728 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: I think they mentioned sounding board. 729 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: They said they're a great. 730 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 2: Sounding board for each other. 731 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeap. 732 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: How they couldn't understand how they meet some couples where 733 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 2: the right hand doesn't know what. 734 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: The left hand's doing. 735 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they couldn't understand that. 736 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 3: We're not like that, not like we know what each 737 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 3: other's doing. 738 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 4: I'm not sure you don't know what I'm I think not. 739 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 4: I don't know if you know what I'm doing half 740 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 4: the time. 741 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I know you're hiking, and I know you're working 742 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: on your book. 743 00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know you're doing that. I'll informulate, Honey, 744 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 3: I'll make a Liz, what are you doing? I'm just checking. 745 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: It just concerns me. 746 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 4: Now, I know you don't know about my dance classes 747 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 4: or the movie I've written. 748 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: Nothing. I mean, there's so many things. 749 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: Excuse me. I do know about the movie you've written. 750 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: The dance classes I'm not aware of. Because we should 751 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: be dancing together. You know, that's what I want to 752 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 2: do now. 753 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 4: I know. I bet many years, many years I've said 754 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 4: I've wanted to do that. 755 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and I've been the I've been the the handbrake 756 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: on it, and the handbrake is now off. 757 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 4: Nice. 758 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: We are going to do a manual clutch start because 759 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 2: the keys have been lost a long time. We have 760 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: to jump start the car. 761 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 3: Right all right? Everyone, On that note, thank you so 762 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: much for listening. Please join us next time on Zeparate 763 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 3: Bathrooms 764 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: Show for now