Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Mass twenty podcast with
Speaker 1: me Joshua Fox. Today, I have quite possibly the biggest
Speaker 1: spoiler of the season, and it comes via Jackie of
Speaker 1: our people. Although it is up to you if you
Speaker 1: believe it or not, it is also up to you
Speaker 1: if you carry on listening. As I've just said, there
Speaker 1: will be spoilers.
Speaker 2: Before I get.
Speaker 1: Into this, though, I just want to say at the
Speaker 1: start of the season, I was not vibing Jackie at all.
Speaker 1: I didn't quite understand her or what she was about,
Speaker 1: and I still don't necessarily understand her, but I do
Speaker 1: think she is hugely entertaining. The different side to her
Speaker 1: I've seen on her socials I actually enjoy following. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I've completely changed my opinion on Jackie. Do I believe
Speaker 1: some of the crying on the show's fake?
Speaker 2: Yes? Completely, But am I entertained also? Yes? But no
Speaker 2: back to this.
Speaker 1: So, in another rogue move, on Tuesday night, she did
Speaker 1: a TikTok live and during that live, she was asked
Speaker 1: if any couples from this year's season are still together,
Speaker 1: and she said.
Speaker 3: This, any couples still together basically not, Sorry, no, I
Speaker 3: don't actually know because I don't talk to everyone.
Speaker 1: Anymore, which is basically her saying without actually saying, that
Speaker 1: Ree and Jeff are potentially now over. As far as
Speaker 1: we are now, Rie and Jeff a the only couple
Speaker 1: still together, and that's not including Jackie and Clint because
Speaker 1: they don't really count because they match themselves post shout
Speaker 1: and Channel nine and the experts can take zero.
Speaker 2: Credit for that.
Speaker 1: I know Jackie did say she's not a hundred percentua
Speaker 1: about that, but I don't know. It feels a bit
Speaker 1: weird because as far as we all know, Ree and
Speaker 1: Jeff are still together. You know, I saw them on
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day kissing in real life as he dropped her.
Speaker 2: Off at that lunch.
Speaker 1: So has something happened since then and they've since broken up?
Speaker 1: Or is this just Jackie's stirring stuff as she openly
Speaker 1: dislikes Ree, which it potentially is.
Speaker 2: But either way, I will look into that.
Speaker 1: But on the subject of Jackie going rogue, I have
Speaker 1: pulled together a load of her other random Instagram stories, videos,
Speaker 1: quotes from the she keeps doing, and here's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff you may find interesting. Firstly, this is Jackie
Speaker 1: confirming that yes, her apartment in Manley during homestay was
Speaker 1: indeed an Airbnb and explaining why, by the way, guys, yes.
Speaker 3: I did rent an Airbnb. Well, no, I didn't even
Speaker 3: rent an Airbnb. Production rented in an Airbnb for my
Speaker 3: homes days because I have housemates and I didn't want Well,
Speaker 3: they can't film when you've got housemates. That's just an
Speaker 3: fyi for anyone that read that article. Ryan's just hurt.
Speaker 3: He's a little boy, he's a man child, and he's
Speaker 3: lashing out and trying to get the Daily Mail to
Speaker 3: write all his bullshit articles.
Speaker 1: And here's Jackie explaining the thing that actually horrified her
Speaker 1: the most about Ryan's house that they didn't show on TV.
Speaker 3: Ryan's house was an absolute rotty miss Somebody has to
Speaker 3: take a screenshot of my to do list because they
Speaker 3: will expose that man.
Speaker 2: I exposed him.
Speaker 3: On National TV. He had eggs and his fridge that
Speaker 3: were like two and a half months old. It was gross.
Speaker 1: Underway from the rotten eggs, Jackie was off also sickened
Speaker 1: by his.
Speaker 3: Bird sheets were like so oily. He hadn't washed them
Speaker 3: in months, maybe years. You know how boys boys like
Speaker 3: don't always wash this stuff. That was what Ryan's place.
Speaker 1: Was like, while we're on the subject of how Jackie
Speaker 1: like openly talks about enjoying the finer things in life
Speaker 1: and wanting a nice lifestyle, you know, a nice place
Speaker 1: by the water.
Speaker 2: She wants a man who can match her earnings and
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 1: Clint was asked this week in his own rogue Fucking
Speaker 1: ql A on his TikTok, which he's now launched, if
Speaker 1: he thinks Jackie is a go digger, given that as
Speaker 1: soon as she broke up with Ryan on the show,
Speaker 1: she essentiously moved straight into his big mansion in Tasmania.
Speaker 2: And Clint said this in response to that question, Oh.
Speaker 1: She's definitely not a gold digger.
Speaker 3: She's got her own money, she makes her own money,
Speaker 3: and definitely.
Speaker 1: Not a girl. Now back to Jackie's rogue posts, because
Speaker 1: they are a lot more entertaining. No offense to Clint. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't agree with you as speculating and diagnosing participants
Speaker 1: with any kind of conditions. You know, sat on their
Speaker 1: silvers watching the TV, which is why I don't cover rumors,
Speaker 1: which stem from people just guessing certain things based on
Speaker 1: behaviors they're watching. But in a recent video, Jackie did
Speaker 1: actually address the constant comment she received from people claiming
Speaker 1: that she is neurodivergent.
Speaker 3: I haven't been diagnosed with anything. I don't identify as neurodivergent.
Speaker 3: I don't have an issue with anyone who is. I
Speaker 3: actually have a thing and love autistic people because they're
Speaker 3: so sweethearted and kind and sensitive, and I'm very sensitive
Speaker 3: person as well. So yeah, that's just on that one.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I really do not agree
Speaker 1: with how viewers, will you know, be so adamant this
Speaker 1: person has this thing or suffers from this condition or
Speaker 1: and sorry, maybe suffers not the right word there. This
Speaker 1: isn't something I'm that confident speaking on, But I just
Speaker 1: want to say, yeah, I don't agree with that. But
Speaker 1: I included Jackie's answer there because it's that claim that
Speaker 1: she is neurodivergent has been so prominent, so I suppose
Speaker 1: her openly responding to it is her saying okay, let's stop.
Speaker 2: Moving on now. Though.
Speaker 1: If you want another big spoiler, here's Jackie explaining what
Speaker 1: happens at the reunion.
Speaker 3: Yes, we spoil the reunion. Me and clinto, we run it.
Speaker 3: We are we just come in and tell everyone there
Speaker 3: it's a circus.
Speaker 1: Jackie also did a video where she was asked if
Speaker 1: she purposely went out of her way just to anno
Speaker 1: Ryan during their time together.
Speaker 3: I purposely wound Ryan up. Yes I did. I sometimes
Speaker 3: purposely wound Rye up. But other times I was just
Speaker 3: trying to be nice and like try and get along
Speaker 3: with him, but we'd always end up just fighting all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: And despite all of her drama with Ryan, she did
Speaker 1: briefly say something nice about him kind of.
Speaker 3: I did like Ryan at times. I had a soft
Speaker 3: spot for his quirkiness. And I think you've cried too
Speaker 3: if you're married to Ryan, Like imagine going on National
Speaker 3: TV and thinking you're going to meet the man of
Speaker 3: your dreams and then marrying Ryan, Like, how sad would
Speaker 3: you be?
Speaker 1: In another video Jackie, and then she had her thoughts
Speaker 1: on the wider cast.
Speaker 3: Personally, I felt like our cast was one big influencer.
Speaker 2: First.
Speaker 3: First, the first was so obvious at dinner parties when
Speaker 3: everyone was screaming and yelling constantly and wanted to be
Speaker 3: the one to instigate drama and ask the questions, and
Speaker 3: people would like repeat the same question so that they
Speaker 3: got to be the ones that would ask it on
Speaker 3: the TV. It was so icky, And yeah, there are
Speaker 3: a lot of people who are actors and influencers and whatnot.
Speaker 3: Not enough normal people. That's what I struggled with. Not
Speaker 3: enough like just chill every day blokes or people who
Speaker 3: just don't like drama. I hated the drama. I shouldn't
Speaker 3: have gone on the stupid show. I didn't realize it
Speaker 3: was so drama focused. I thought I signed up for
Speaker 3: a love show and there was no love. I kept saying,
Speaker 3: where is the love, Where's the love? Where is the love?
Speaker 3: Because this is not love, this is not love.
Speaker 2: Give me the love.
Speaker 3: I hated it, and where's the love? The love, the love.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy now, I'm happy. I'm out of that
Speaker 3: that shit.
Speaker 2: And then she shared her thoughts on Jeff specifically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff was an interesting one because when he came
Speaker 3: into the experiment, he seemed like a really nice guy,
Speaker 3: and then by week two he was yelling aggressively at
Speaker 3: people at the dinner parties. I definitely saw him in
Speaker 3: a different life light. After Beth and TJ's wedding and
Speaker 3: he sat by and led his wife at him to
Speaker 3: gas like me and frame me for having sent a
Speaker 3: sneaky text to her husband even though she was there.
Speaker 3: I felt like he was just letting her speak and
Speaker 3: he was kind of supporting her like a nice guy
Speaker 3: would do. But I felt like it just liked integrity
Speaker 3: and if it was me, i'd call out my partner
Speaker 3: for that. But at the same time, he was comforting
Speaker 3: me at the wedding and he put his hand across
Speaker 3: the table and was like, it's okay, calm down, and
Speaker 3: while Ree was feeding Ryan potatoes like being a complete
Speaker 3: bitch basically. But yeah, after a couple swap, like during
Speaker 3: a couple swap, I called him out for licking integrity
Speaker 3: and lying on camera and called him out for having
Speaker 3: light about sharing a bed with me. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 3: situation now.
Speaker 1: And now to wrap this little episode up, Jackie did
Speaker 1: another video where she detailed what exactly her job is,
Speaker 1: as there's been much confusion around this, okay.
Speaker 3: So I started off in civil litigation in New Zealand,
Speaker 3: working on disputes and dispute resolution, so mainly equity, trusts,
Speaker 3: negligence and things like that. Then I moved into investment law,
Speaker 3: so I worked as an investment analyst, working on capital
Speaker 3: raisers and finance for big commercial projects in New Zealand
Speaker 3: and international investment attraction for the government. Then I moved
Speaker 3: into working for venture capital, so working in a tech
Speaker 3: accelerator called tech Stars where they invest in early stage
Speaker 3: tech companies. And then I worked in legal recruitment because
Speaker 3: recruitment's very similar to venture capital if you know anything
Speaker 3: about the industries. Then I was working as an investment
Speaker 3: lawyer in again rich capital startups and things like that,
Speaker 3: and now currently I have a business. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 3: a long journey, but that's my career.
Speaker 1: And brave that went a bit above my head. To
Speaker 1: be honest, I'm still not entirely sure what she does,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like she does clever things that I'm
Speaker 1: not clever enough to quite understand. But good on you, Jackie.
Speaker 1: That's all I got for now. Have a lovely day, everybody,