WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 9 March

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<v Speaker 1>Live from Queensland. This is Paul murray Lyte today.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening and welcome back to Brisbane, Southeast Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>Still dealing with the echoes of Alfred.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some big ro problems happening just a little

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<v Speaker 2>further up the coast. Now tonight on the show, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about lots of different heroes that have

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<v Speaker 2>been working up and down the coast for the past

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<v Speaker 2>little while, but I want to focus on the people

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<v Speaker 2>trying to reconnect electricity to hundreds of thousands of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Will go inside that operation and how it works tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nissa Wil's Premier Chris Mins, joined us a little

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<v Speaker 2>earlier tonight to talk about the issues in northern New

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales and then back to our usual on Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the state of the Race, the conversation about

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<v Speaker 2>an election that we thought could have been called as

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<v Speaker 2>early as this weekend, but because of the events of

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<v Speaker 2>the past few days, is going.

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<v Speaker 1>To be delayed until May.

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<v Speaker 2>But first let's start with the weather, and it has

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<v Speaker 2>been wet and wild this weekend in Southeast Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>And the north of New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 2>The rain is coming and going from Brisbane tonight, but

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<v Speaker 2>the effects are very much still being felt on the

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Coast. But the real focus right now is a

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<v Speaker 2>place called Harvey Bay. Now, Harvey Bay is just off

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<v Speaker 2>the Sunshine Coast and they have been absolutely turned inside

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<v Speaker 2>out like a pair of socks. Tonight there is footage

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<v Speaker 2>that is showing us the real problems of hundreds hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of millimeters of rain that have fallen there in just

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<v Speaker 2>a few hours. Eleven people so far have need to

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<v Speaker 2>be rescued from the floods. The Premiere, David krus Of,

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<v Speaker 2>fully in his most recent briefings, is turning his attention

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<v Speaker 2>to the emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>That is happening there. As we speak.

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<v Speaker 3>There was two hundred and thirty millimeters of rainfall in

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<v Speaker 3>just a few hours in Harvey Bay. We've seen that

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<v Speaker 3>culminating reports of flash flooding in homes and in businesses.

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<v Speaker 3>There has spen number of Swiss for to rescues and

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say a huge yet of gratitude

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<v Speaker 3>to those emergency services personnel.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, one of the problems here is that by having

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<v Speaker 2>to spread themselves across an area that has got literally

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<v Speaker 2>millions of people and hundreds of thousands at any one time, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Are in the focus.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some things that have slipped through the cracks,

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<v Speaker 2>most notably the information that has been given to the

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<v Speaker 2>people of Harvey Bay. The Bureau of Meteorology has admitted

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<v Speaker 2>tonight that while they had the information eventually, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have it early enough. A statement from the Bureau of

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<v Speaker 2>Meteorology says that Harvey Bay was included in a severe

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<v Speaker 2>weather warning that was issued at five am. However, they

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<v Speaker 2>now acknowledged that the event had happened much earlier. The

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<v Speaker 2>latest numbers we have is three hundred and twenty mills

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<v Speaker 2>have come down since nine am yesterday. There have been

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and seventy one rescues, not just from the

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<v Speaker 2>waters but from the people who are inside their homes.

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<v Speaker 2>So eleven people being pulled out of the water and

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and seventy one people being pulled out of

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<v Speaker 2>their homes. Now, a quick little update again before we

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<v Speaker 2>start to have a look at the other issues that are.

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<v Speaker 1>Happening around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are five things that you need to know about

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<v Speaker 2>what is happening when it comes to this extropical cyclone tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>The first is that flooding is the next big worry

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<v Speaker 2>for Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 1>The expectation is is that.

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<v Speaker 2>With hundreds of mills that have flowed for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is not going to be in the Brisbane

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<v Speaker 2>River behind me. Instead it is in many many suburbs.

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<v Speaker 2>More than one hundred roads are currently closed.

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<v Speaker 4>This event is filling, not over, for the rainfall will

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<v Speaker 4>continue and the risk of ent tense rainfall with localized

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<v Speaker 4>flash flooding is real.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, let me show you some data. You know how

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<v Speaker 2>to into the data. I am and Jesus a lot

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to a weather event. These are the

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<v Speaker 2>issues about rainfall. In the past little while. I've spoken

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<v Speaker 2>about Harvey Bay. But right now now Brisbane, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty three mills, nearly one hundred mills fell in

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<v Speaker 2>Brisbane in just two hours. That, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 2>the equal of all of the rain that fell here

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<v Speaker 2>in December up at Redcliffe one hundred and forty seven mills.

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<v Speaker 2>At Archerfil two hundred mills, down at cool and Gatta

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty five mills. Over the border in

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<v Speaker 2>Ballina it's been thirty eight and in Lizmore thirty seven

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<v Speaker 2>that have fallen in the past couple of days. And

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<v Speaker 2>as you can see you think you're about to stand

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<v Speaker 2>in a nice dry spot, and then the rain starts

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<v Speaker 2>to pull up. We'll hold on for as long as

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<v Speaker 2>possible without reaching for the rain jacket. The other thing

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<v Speaker 2>is win and again you can see a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of it picking up, but that has caused its own

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<v Speaker 2>troubles too.

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<v Speaker 1>Again worth having a.

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<v Speaker 2>Look here because you can see the types of damage

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<v Speaker 2>that has taken place. Now I will probably tomorrow in

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<v Speaker 2>chapter and verse have to set things right with those

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<v Speaker 2>who have said this thing is not as big as expected,

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<v Speaker 2>fizzer all the rest of it. Look, let's be very serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Person died in northern New South Wales. People are being

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<v Speaker 2>pulled out of the water or save from their homes

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<v Speaker 2>in Harvey Bay. Hundreds of thousands of people don't have power.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry if that's not enough for some people, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is well and truly a very significant event that's

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<v Speaker 2>been taking place here at Brisbane Airport this weekend. Ninety

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<v Speaker 2>three k's an hour was as fast as it got

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<v Speaker 2>at Redcliffe.

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<v Speaker 1>In the middle of last night.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one hundred and four kilometers ninety five k's

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<v Speaker 2>on the Gold Coast and the latest number we had

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<v Speaker 2>was seventy six k's an hour at Harvey Bay, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to see something a little higher

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<v Speaker 2>once more numbers come in eighty two kilometers an hour

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<v Speaker 2>across at Cape Byron at Byron Bay. The third thing

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<v Speaker 2>you need to know about what is happening as we

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<v Speaker 2>speak in southeast Queensland, north northern New South Wales and

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<v Speaker 2>everything that has been affected here is there is an

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<v Speaker 2>awful lot of people who.

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<v Speaker 1>Still don't have power.

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<v Speaker 2>Now forty eight thousand people don't have any power as

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<v Speaker 2>we go to war tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>In Brisbane, the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Affected suburbs Rochdale, Board, bald Hills and the Gap Meantime

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<v Speaker 2>on the Gold Coast. Congratulations to the energet's workers because

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<v Speaker 2>this has gone from close to two hundred thousand now

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<v Speaker 2>down to eighty one thousand. Eight hundred homes in and

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<v Speaker 2>around Madurabah, Nrang and Labrador are the areas that need

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<v Speaker 2>the most work in the next little while. And again

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<v Speaker 2>the crews that have been doing what they have doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen the volunteers when it comes to rural fire

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<v Speaker 2>service efforts. I've seen the volunteers when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the State emergency Service. These people are twenty four to seven.

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<v Speaker 2>They're focused on everything from a street lamp all the

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<v Speaker 2>way through to a hospital unit blocks. They are working

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<v Speaker 2>their backside off. The bloke who showed us around their

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<v Speaker 2>operation is a blow called Paul, and we'll talk to him.

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<v Speaker 1>In a moment or two times.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got people haven't got power at home. We've got

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<v Speaker 5>people who have moved home. We've got one fellow living

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<v Speaker 5>with his mum again that's how he can come in

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<v Speaker 5>and work. So it's absolutely extraordinary in what our people

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<v Speaker 5>will do to make sure that they can come in

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<v Speaker 5>and help the community.

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<v Speaker 6>I couldn't be proud of the effort that those people

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<v Speaker 6>put in poor.

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<v Speaker 1>Alright in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>They are so committed to going outside that when they

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<v Speaker 2>build even brand new unit blocks, you've got to have

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<v Speaker 2>a balcady because even when you're inside, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be outside. And since Thursday there's been no school on

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday and Friday. The news about whether school is back tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>well it is literally school by school. The latest information

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<v Speaker 2>that we have from the authorities here is that you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to check a website that has now been updated.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the Premier has that message for you tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>I make the observation. Parents and school communities know their

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<v Speaker 3>school and we're asking people to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 3>stay safe. And if getting to school from your particular

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<v Speaker 3>property isn't safe, well, of course, of course that's a

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<v Speaker 3>decision that parents will make and they'll be supported in that,

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<v Speaker 3>I can assure you. But where it's safe to do so,

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<v Speaker 3>those schools will open.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've told you about the emergency in Harvey Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked about the wind. I've talked about the power.

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked about how much rain there is. I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about when it's time for kids to go back to school.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I'm going to talk about the politicians bit

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<v Speaker 2>mctanngue for days and days, but it's time now to

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<v Speaker 2>pass a little review on the way some of them

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<v Speaker 2>have been performing. Now, you know, I'm a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>David Crucifully. I was as an opposition leader and I

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<v Speaker 2>cheered him in to become the premier. He has grown

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<v Speaker 2>in stature during all of this. Calm, measured detailed up

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<v Speaker 2>to date, not holding anything back, not being combative, not

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<v Speaker 2>being dramatic, not trying to squeeze another press conference out

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<v Speaker 2>of it. So everyone's sitting around COVID style. He has

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<v Speaker 2>done an excellent job. Again to those who say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not what we thought it would be, I repeat,

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about a storm that has gone from the

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<v Speaker 2>Sunshine Coast to Coffsarbor in New South Wales, out to

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<v Speaker 2>Woomba and Harvey Bay when it comes out to sea,

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<v Speaker 2>and plenty of others. Another person who's done their state

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<v Speaker 2>proud as the New Sowales.

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<v Speaker 1>Premier Chris Mins.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, he could have stayed in Sydney, he could have

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<v Speaker 2>sent people to represent him, but no, as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>he knew that there was a chance that Lismore could

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<v Speaker 2>have a repeat of issues, Balliner could go down Grafton

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<v Speaker 2>currently having a bit of a rough night tonight, potential issues,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe south into Port Macquarie.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been here every stage of this.

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<v Speaker 2>He's brought with him statewide experts, local experts and will

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<v Speaker 2>chat to him in a couple of minutes too.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's been a privilege to be here amongst

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<v Speaker 7>emergency service workers as well as the local community. Well,

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<v Speaker 7>they're really tough, incredibly resilient people and they've been through

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<v Speaker 7>Helen back over the last few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we've got to talk about federal politicians in natural disasters,

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<v Speaker 2>they do have a role, but they should not have

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<v Speaker 2>a front facing one where we've got to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>them multiple times a day. The reality is is that

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<v Speaker 2>when the information is as localized as I've been able

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<v Speaker 2>to explain to you, politicians from Canberra doing briefings in Canberra,

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<v Speaker 2>in my view, is about trying to keep themselves into

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<v Speaker 2>the overall disaster new cycle, as opposed to filling any

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<v Speaker 2>information void that anyone else has. Now, the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>correctly went to liz More to be with the ADF,

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<v Speaker 2>but that is a perfect use of his time. Parading

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<v Speaker 2>around in emergency situations where federal authorities can tell us

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<v Speaker 2>what state authorities can do to me is an obvious

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<v Speaker 2>amount of look at me. The other one is a

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<v Speaker 2>whole collection of local labor MPs who've been all over

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<v Speaker 2>social media or pretending that they have some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>official role in all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want you to see this.

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<v Speaker 2>The one who thinks he's going to be the next

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<v Speaker 2>Prime minister, Jim Chalmers. Now he yesterday was out in about,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry this is today out in about and jesez he's

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<v Speaker 2>got the orange jacket on now I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I believe he is not a member of the State

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<v Speaker 2>Emergency Service. But geez, of all the colors to pick

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of an emergency, he picks the same

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<v Speaker 2>color as that of the actual volunteers, the actual people helping,

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<v Speaker 2>the actual people who are making people's lives better. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he'll hate that I'm saying it, but sorry, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>reality of the situation. All right, That's the few things

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about generally. But now let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to another reality of the past few days. The Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister for two years has been desperate to get some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a circuit breaker, desperate to get some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a topic change, something that would move him away

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<v Speaker 2>from what feels like a sinking ship and going around

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<v Speaker 2>the gurglar. Well, the reality is just a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, the polls were pretty clear, Doutton leading and

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<v Speaker 2>Labor was on course for a defeat. So we were

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<v Speaker 2>told the circuit breaker, the topic changer, would be the

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<v Speaker 2>Reserve Bank and its latest decision when it to interest rates.

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<v Speaker 2>As we told you then, despite the fact that many

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<v Speaker 2>in the media were saying this was the game changer,

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<v Speaker 2>we knew it wasn't because just like two little too

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<v Speaker 2>late tax cuts, it wasn't enough. So then we've had

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<v Speaker 2>the ten day conversation about medicare, where he's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>remind everyone of a campaign trick from three years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>where he's holding up a dollar coin to make some

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<v Speaker 2>points somewhere, and now he's trying to turn everyone's wallet

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<v Speaker 2>into a reminder of a Labor Party campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've got a poll after all of that started in.

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<v Speaker 2>The turnbul times the reserve bank rate was too late,

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<v Speaker 2>as Albaneze's rating dips slips again. Now again I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>being cynical. I'm just talking about the reality of somebody

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<v Speaker 2>trying to dig themselves out of a hole, and they

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<v Speaker 2>use any opportunity they can get. Has this weekend been

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<v Speaker 2>a game changer? Has this weekend been the circuit breaker

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<v Speaker 2>for some? Perhaps, but it is only going to be

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<v Speaker 2>particularly localized for everyone watching outside of the region. I

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<v Speaker 2>think many people are going to think there is no

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<v Speaker 2>great change. But the one big piece of news that

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<v Speaker 2>we have not been able to talk about on the

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<v Speaker 2>show thus far in any great detail, was the reality

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<v Speaker 2>of this tropical Cyclone of all the things that have

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<v Speaker 2>been disrupted the prime Minister's plans to call an election

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend were the most disrupted politically.

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<v Speaker 8>Ex Tropical Cyclone Alfred's eminent impacts have reached the halls

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<v Speaker 8>of Canberra, with the Prime Minister's plans to hold an

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<v Speaker 8>April election now ruled out. The Albanesi government says its

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<v Speaker 8>entire focus is on the emergency.

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<v Speaker 9>The ex tropical cyclone was renamed from Anthony to Alford

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<v Speaker 9>to avoid any association with the Prime minister. Now he

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<v Speaker 9>doesn't want to seem as though he's disassociating Anthony. Albanese

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<v Speaker 9>is all too aware of the fierce backlash federal governments

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<v Speaker 9>can cop for being too slow to act with an

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<v Speaker 9>election looming. This disaster hasn't added political dimension.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what happens becare because this election has been delayed.

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<v Speaker 2>It now goes into May. It will not be in April.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be a budget, It'll be in just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks time. Were they ready to actually do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they going to have to cobble one together? What's

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<v Speaker 2>the handout it's going to be? Remember we keep being

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<v Speaker 2>told that revenue is a problem. At the moment, we

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<v Speaker 2>know that there is a plan. Their own government's modeling

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<v Speaker 2>for a budget deficit for the next forty years.

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<v Speaker 1>How will they.

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<v Speaker 2>Magically produce a set of numbers hoping to change their fortunes.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember twelve months ago, two little too late tax cuts.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't change the game.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be at least two more meetings of the

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<v Speaker 2>Reserve Bank, one in April and one in May. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>if it is the first week of May, it may

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<v Speaker 2>well have a final jump into the campaign. But given

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<v Speaker 2>all of the circumstances of the economy right now, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't betting the house on a reduction and how much

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<v Speaker 2>it costs to pay off the house.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also they're now going to have another month to

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<v Speaker 1>spend millions.

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<v Speaker 2>More of your taxpayers dollars on soft political advertising, which

0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.680
<v Speaker 2>is clearly all about pumping up the government, pumping up labor,

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<v Speaker 2>pumping up the Prime Minister. But it'll all be of

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<v Speaker 2>course in information campaigns, and plenty more polls will either

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<v Speaker 2>tell us that there has yet again not been the

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<v Speaker 2>circuit breaker and the Prime Minister is in a scenario

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<v Speaker 2>of hitting at the very least towards a minority and

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<v Speaker 2>then potentially the Liberal.

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<v Speaker 1>Party being able to form that minority government.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and if there's any problems with the economy

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<v Speaker 2>between now and then, blame this weekend.

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<v Speaker 10>This will have an impact on the national economy, There's

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<v Speaker 10>no question about that. Already it's having an impact. Businesses

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<v Speaker 10>are closed, people are unable to go to work. The

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<v Speaker 10>human impact is one thing. The environmental impact is significant,

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<v Speaker 10>but the economic impact is as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, again, these are the times not for the leaders

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<v Speaker 2>to be the commentators, but for the leaders to deliver

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<v Speaker 2>the information. I've shown you the Liberal one in Queensland

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<v Speaker 2>who's doing it well, the Labor one in while I

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<v Speaker 2>was the.

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<v Speaker 1>One from Canberra.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll talk about that with our mates Michael Kroger

0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.360
<v Speaker 2>and CAUs Samaras a return to normal on a Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>night when it comes to the state of the race.

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<v Speaker 2>But one last thing about politics that cannot go unmentioned

0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.680
<v Speaker 2>and cannot go past my eye, and I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>second to mention it so I will remember this cringey

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<v Speaker 2>stuff about people who were supporting Kamala Harris just before

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<v Speaker 2>she lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Body.

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<v Speaker 3>Are why I make a big nice scene industry gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be a big person.

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<v Speaker 2>Well on International Women's Day, these are the women of

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<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party pulling a kamala. Well, I hope believe

0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.360
<v Speaker 2>of the opposition is got a piece of paper and

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<v Speaker 2>he is writing.

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<v Speaker 9>Out his resignation if he wants to know what misogyny.

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<v Speaker 8>Looks like in him in Australia. And he doesn't need

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<v Speaker 8>emotion in the house represented he needs.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm a pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yet again the reframing of that moment, which remember,

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<v Speaker 2>was in defense of Peter Slipper and what he had

0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.040
<v Speaker 2>said about the female form. And you love how all

0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:12.919
<v Speaker 2>of these things melt away from history. But you and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, right, let's talk about this incredible operation which

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<v Speaker 2>has been people getting power back on grid. Now they

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<v Speaker 2>were able to do it tens of thousands of people

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<v Speaker 2>last night, huge wins through Brisbane meant that they took

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<v Speaker 2>one step forward, one step back. Well, twenty four hours later,

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<v Speaker 2>tens of thousands of homes have come back on and

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<v Speaker 2>that is because of an army, and there has been

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<v Speaker 2>an army of people who have been working to put

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff back together. The company is Energy X and

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Jordan is its chief operating officer. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to talk to him at their Green Slopes depot

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<v Speaker 2>a bit earlier today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Sydney had its volunteers.

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<v Speaker 2>In the year two thousand, plenty of people turned to

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<v Speaker 2>the Rual Fire Service in times of fire.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to say the people who have brought.

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<v Speaker 2>The most calm to people in Southeas Queens in the

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<v Speaker 2>past few days have been the people working for The

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<v Speaker 2>information that has been coming from Nijex is phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>Palls, the man who puts it all together. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for seeing us here.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, you're most welcome, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever I saw a tree down and your crews start

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<v Speaker 2>to roll in, I could see that people who had

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<v Speaker 2>been tense all night started to relax because it was

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<v Speaker 2>tangible help that we're starting to turn up. Give me

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<v Speaker 2>an idea about the feelings inside your crew about not

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<v Speaker 2>just bringing numbers down, but reconnecting people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got about twelve hundred people ready to respond and

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<v Speaker 5>who are responding in the southeast. We're bringing eight hundred

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<v Speaker 5>in from the northern parts of the state, and each

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<v Speaker 5>and every one of them is focused on community, what

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<v Speaker 5>they can be doing to restore supply because as you

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<v Speaker 5>well know, you know, electricity supplies core to everything we do,

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<v Speaker 5>so that's in their heart and mind. Our job is

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<v Speaker 5>to make sure that we coordinate that that they stay

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<v Speaker 5>safe and then we get that power back on the

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<v Speaker 5>seat as we can.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we see the maps and we talk about

0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.000
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands of customers that don't have power, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even imagine how you start to triage that. Give

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<v Speaker 2>me an idea about how you pick what and where.

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<v Speaker 5>So my emergency management team, they've been together since Thursday

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<v Speaker 5>week ago and we've been tracking cyclone Alfred for that

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<v Speaker 5>week and a half.

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<v Speaker 6>So we are well prepared.

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<v Speaker 5>So we track it, we overlay that on our assets

0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.880
<v Speaker 5>and we get an estimate of Okay, what's this going

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<v Speaker 5>to do? And we've got about three hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 5>odd thousand customers off of them, the biggest event that

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<v Speaker 5>southeast of Queensland has seen. So we do things like

0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.080
<v Speaker 5>we preposition generation. We get generators out there and ready

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<v Speaker 5>to go and we're connecting them up yesterday and today

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<v Speaker 5>as we speak. We preposition our troops from the north.

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<v Speaker 5>They've been around the Proofrey, Harvey Bay, Bunderberg, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 5>et cetera, and we're making our plans. We create staging

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<v Speaker 5>areas so you don't bring hundreds of people in without

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<v Speaker 5>having accommodation, food, and all those sorts of logistics.

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<v Speaker 6>We've fueled up our trucks.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got fuel pods out there, so we're well drilled,

0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.800
<v Speaker 5>well prepared. In fact, to be honest with you, I

0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 5>think we're probably the best disaster of sponse group going around.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly, I've seen it with my own eyes. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen the comfort that it brings to people. But also

0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the professionalism is that while we were getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready to talk to you, we saw all of your crews.

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<v Speaker 2>Having meetings inside before jumping into the trucks. And honestly,

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:29.360
<v Speaker 2>it was this military like operation of how much was happening.

0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.879
<v Speaker 2>But what was pretty palpable was you've got men and

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<v Speaker 2>women who want to get out there.

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<v Speaker 1>If they could do it twenty four to seven, they would.

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<v Speaker 2>You sometimes almost have to hold them back because they

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<v Speaker 2>want to get into this.

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<v Speaker 6>They do, you know, that's in their fabric.

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<v Speaker 5>But in the large communities we've been, in our smaller communities,

0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 5>that's what we do, and we harness that we manage it.

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.480
<v Speaker 5>We actually do run twenty four to seven, twenty five

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.600
<v Speaker 5>crews going. Last night, we'll do the same again as such.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the thing is we start to sent up our

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.359
<v Speaker 5>community engagement centers, so that's where we can give people

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:06.199
<v Speaker 5>information about connections and reconnections. I have they've been flooded,

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 5>et cetera, starlink for communications, places to charge their phones,

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 5>their laptops, et cetera.

0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 6>So we're starting to roll those out in the community shortly.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was mentioning before about the triaging of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously you have specialized crews for things like hospitals and

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.840
<v Speaker 2>key pieces of infrastructure. But obviously also as I saw it,

0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.000
<v Speaker 2>you've got people door to door. You've got people working

0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:31.920
<v Speaker 2>all ends of this thing. And that's what means that

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.639
<v Speaker 2>yesterday you're able to get tens of thousands back online

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.560
<v Speaker 2>because you're working all ends of this thing. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>just from the center and work out, meaning the further out,

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:44.119
<v Speaker 2>the longer you got away.

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<v Speaker 6>That's absolutely case. So I'll give you example.

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<v Speaker 5>Yesterday we got on the Queensland Police barge and we

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.600
<v Speaker 5>have people out of the islands, so we're escaping on

0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 5>the islands. We've got generators already prepositioned. Soon as this

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 5>weather lets us, we'll be back on the QPS barge.

0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:00.399
<v Speaker 6>Our own barges. We've got eight chop has read to go.

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<v Speaker 5>We can't fly in this obviously, but as soon as

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.919
<v Speaker 5>we can fly, we're ready and you're dead right, you know.

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 5>We look at priorities around water, sewerage, hospitals, supermarkets, surveys,

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.399
<v Speaker 5>et cetera. So people can start to get their lives

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:14.359
<v Speaker 5>back on track.

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Because that's the thing, even if your home mightn't be

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.639
<v Speaker 2>back the idea that you can go to the servo,

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:21.880
<v Speaker 2>go to the convenience store. And I've got to say

0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:23.959
<v Speaker 2>as well, in terms of the things that you know,

0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago, we had a conversation about.

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<v Speaker 1>Essential workers, those little.

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<v Speaker 2>Points of relief where you can get a bottle of

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<v Speaker 2>water or something if you're running low.

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<v Speaker 5>A bag of ice, you know, all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And we've learned that over time. So that's our generation strategy.

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<v Speaker 5>Water sewerage, if we have to help the hospitals, et cetera, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 5>But then those things that makes people's life start to

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<v Speaker 5>turn again, you know, it is that that hot talk,

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:51.040
<v Speaker 5>the bag of ice, et cetera, gets some petrol. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>So that's the sort of generation strategy. We're hooking that

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<v Speaker 5>up as we speak as well as restoring the network, give.

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<v Speaker 2>Us an idea about the type of effort that your

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<v Speaker 2>people are putting in. Are there particular stories that you

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<v Speaker 2>get to hear back, what's touched.

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<v Speaker 1>You and made you proud of your team in all

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<v Speaker 1>of this.

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<v Speaker 6>It's absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>At the muster of this morning, we've got people haven't

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<v Speaker 5>got power at home. We've got people who have moved home.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got one fellow living with his mum again that's

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<v Speaker 5>how he can come in and work. So it's absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>extraordinary in what our people will do to make sure

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<v Speaker 5>that they can come in and help the community.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's right across the southeast.

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<v Speaker 5>So I couldn't be proud of the effort that those

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<v Speaker 5>people put in.

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<v Speaker 2>Poll well as a visitor to this fine state, but

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<v Speaker 2>a man who would love to work here and work

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<v Speaker 2>here live here one day, thank you, because honestly, the

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<v Speaker 2>relief you're bringing, the calmness, the approach, the professionalism, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never seen anything like it, and I've seen plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>my life.

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<v Speaker 6>Congratulations, You're ast welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>What a lovely bloke, what a well oiled machine. Congratulations

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<v Speaker 2>to everyone who is doing what they are doing. Through

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<v Speaker 2>tonight and for many days to come. If politics as

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 2>you think, don't worry Sunday nights. We are back to

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<v Speaker 2>normal tonight where we have a conversation about politics and

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<v Speaker 2>the state of the race. But I wanted to check

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<v Speaker 2>in with the New South Wales premiere Chris Mins. He

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<v Speaker 2>was in northern New South Wales just before sunset. We

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<v Speaker 2>had the opportunity to have a conversation, including the fact

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 2>that he's been around Lismore and how has the emotions

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<v Speaker 2>been as things have looked like they were going to flood,

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<v Speaker 2>not going to flood, and now attention moves to places

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<v Speaker 2>like Grafton.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's been a privilege

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<v Speaker 7>to be here amongst emergency service workers as well as

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<v Speaker 7>the local community.

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<v Speaker 6>You know a lot of them, Paul.

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<v Speaker 7>They're really tough, incredibly resilient people and they've been through

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<v Speaker 7>Helen back over the last few years. But in a

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<v Speaker 7>funny ways, it's I guess it's fantastic to be around

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 7>them because it does put your own your own problems

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 7>in perspective and it makes you think, how you know,

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 7>brasilient and tough these communities.

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<v Speaker 2>Are now we know in the north of New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody died a couple of days ago. There's the situation

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<v Speaker 2>involving the ADF where they revolved in the accident and

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 2>everyone ended up going to hospital. But give me a

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<v Speaker 2>sense again about the feeling. You're a person who is

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<v Speaker 2>professional and understanding what people are thinking and feeling. Is

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<v Speaker 2>the sense in liz Moore relief? A little bit more nervousness.

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<v Speaker 2>How are they tonight?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean it is easing, so I mean we've

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<v Speaker 7>got to be really transparent with the public about the

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<v Speaker 7>latest information. It is easing. The flooding on the Wilsons

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<v Speaker 7>no longer expected to be major. It's now moderate, but

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<v Speaker 7>that's still a lot. That means businesses are in undated

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 7>and people are cut off from their communities. There's evacuation orders.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean my suspicion is that if you live in

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 7>a town like Lismore, you're always under.

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<v Speaker 1>The pressure of.

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<v Speaker 7>Of potential flooding and that really makes them tough. I mean,

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 7>they are a tough community, and I mean I like

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 7>spending time in and around them because they're resilient. The

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<v Speaker 7>other thing about the ADF, and it's a good point

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 7>that you make a lot of young soldiers were involved

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 7>in that car accident yesterday. There's twelve that are still

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 7>in hospital, two in a serious condition. So the community

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 7>is just full of gratitude for them. We really really

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 7>appreciate them being deployed. And I know there's been a

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<v Speaker 7>bit of discussion about deploying the army during civil emergencies

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 7>like this one. The bottom line, Paul is we need them,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, we need them. They're fantastic. They do an

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<v Speaker 7>incredible job. Army Corps of Engineers, the infantry that they

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 7>deploy are incredible experienced soldiers.

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<v Speaker 6>They work across the board.

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<v Speaker 7>They never stop and if we do have major emergencies

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<v Speaker 7>like you do in Australia, we just can't we can't

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<v Speaker 7>turn off the ADF. I hope, I hope this experience

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't change people's perspective on.

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<v Speaker 1>That one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>You see these events are all hands on deck, and

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<v Speaker 2>that means from the defense force to the volunteers, the

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 2>people who are putting the power lines back up and

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 2>the traffic controllers would stop go, the people working in

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<v Speaker 2>service stations.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone doing their bit.

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Is not just all hands on deck, but it's all

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 2>hands on deck doing everything together to make sure we

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<v Speaker 2>get through this as well as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems to be that way.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, we're not going to do a lap of

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<v Speaker 7>honor while the rain's still falling and the rivers are full.

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 7>But lots of emergency service and there's about three thousand SEES,

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 7>volunteers and senior brass up here, a massive pre deployment.

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 7>But that means you're talking literally thousands of people that

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 7>have left their family, left their job, come up to

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 7>the Northern Rivers to sleep on a floor or work

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 7>through the night to keep complete strangers safe. I mean,

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 7>that's a fantastic organization and I know it copped a

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 7>lot of grief after twenty twenty two. There was a

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 7>report that said, you know, things needed to change. But

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<v Speaker 7>the good news is I'm very happy to report things

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 7>have changed and we've got some very dedicated, very brave individuals.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the last count was forty seven flood rescues

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 7>in the last ninety six or so hours. So you know,

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 7>it's difficult work, it's often dangerous, but we really we're

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 7>very grateful that they're there.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a chance to talk to your queens Thane colleague,

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 2>David cruci fully over the past couple of days, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm keen to give the people watching a bit of

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 2>a scense of behind the scenes.

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>We will see the briefings, and no.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Doubt there's advice before those briefings. But you're in a

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>situation where you're not standing in the capital of the state,

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>a very populous important part. So is there some local

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>command center or all of the information is being relayed

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 2>to say a Sydney.

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Headquarters, then it's interpreted and it comes back.

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Give us an idea about that back and forth of information.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, No, Commissioner Wassing runs the SEES. They do that,

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 7>or they've relocated to Homebush to do that where they

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 7>can line up all of the agencies. This flooding event

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 7>occurred right from the Queensland border all the way down

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 7>to Port Macquarie. So we're obviously in liz Moore and

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 7>the local community and the local SEES leadership, the senior

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 7>brass look after this region. But the SEES has to

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 7>look for a stormfront that could radically change. For example,

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 7>we're seeing rainfalls over the Great Dividing Range into communities

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 7>in the north central part of the state, and if

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 7>it happens in a number of hours. You can't just

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 7>have all your resources deployed in one area, so they

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 7>look after the state.

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Stu Fisher looks.

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<v Speaker 7>After the situation here in the Northern Rivers. He's been fantastic.

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 7>You would have seen him on the TV super just

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 7>very to the point, very matter of fact, exactly what

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 7>you need in a crisis, and we're lucky to have

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 7>them now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that Northern East of Wales is not through

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 2>it yet, but I want to say what I've taken

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 2>out of your time in there for the.

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Past couple of days is that you haven't been jumping

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>up all day every day in front of a camera.

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>You are there to be with the people. And I

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's a really good reminder that.

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the big population center is Sydney, a little bit

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 2>in Newcastle, a little bit in Woollongong, and far less

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 2>where you are, but New Soil is a big state.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think the fact that you've been shouldered to

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 2>shoulder with those people for the past few days is

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 2>a real credit to you.

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Premier.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh that's really sweet of you. I appreciate it. Thanks, Paul,

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 7>have a good night.

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<v Speaker 2>We thank the premiers both in you sobs and Queensland

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>and all of the people that have helped us behind

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>the scenes to tell not just the latest information but

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>the story behind.

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>What you've been watching for the past couple of days.

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 2>And as you may notice, it's starting to rain, so

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>quick break back with hardcore politics and a jacket in.

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<v Speaker 1>A moment here of Paul Burray life from Bruceban. Thanks

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>for watching, Welcome back to Bruceban.

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Now ty to talk politics as always on a Sunday night,

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 2>we do it in a thing we like to call

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>the state of the race. All the data, all the insights,

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen in the next week. Let's get

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 2>into that chat right now with KOs Samaras from Redbridge,

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 2>who's comfortably back at home, up for a quick little

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 2>trip to Western Australia for.

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>The major labor blowout there, and.

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Michael Kroger much warmer than I am right now, and

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 2>who's in Melbourne.

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, lads, love it at all. So because before.

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I get into what Western Australia means in Poland, obviously

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't imagine you haven't been calling too many people

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>in the storm affected regions. But even when there's been

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>a big news event, happening in one part of the country.

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you continue the operation everywhere else or is the

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 2>assumption that distraction changes opinions.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>You continue?

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<v Speaker 4>But there hasn't been much polling going on since this

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 4>particular weather event, so I think, you know, once it's

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 4>pretty clear that the Prime Minister was going to postpone

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 4>and call an election. I think everyone's you know, research

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 4>projects were put on hold and so yeah, we will

0:31:56.440 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 4>resume our our key seat track in about a week

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 4>or so. So yeah, it's it is a problem, particularly

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 4>if you've got a whole entire state down. Yeah, polling's

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 4>a bit you know, polling nationally is a bit risky.

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 2>All right, Michael, let's talk about the delaying in the election.

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Has the prime ministers done the right thing? Because yes,

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 2>things are probably going to be better tomorrow and he

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>would have still been had the opportunity to go and

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 2>do it. But the delay means a budget. He's got

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to put that together with all of its goodies. But

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 2>there's not a lot of money left in the bank.

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel now that both sides have got

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>much more time before the election.

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<v Speaker 11>So Mata, I don't think he had any choice. Albanize

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 11>did the right thing. I mean, all these people saying

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 11>the storm is not as bad as it was predictable

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 11>and ow please, it's like saying I knew Number four

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 11>was going to win with you. I mean, yeah, we're

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 11>all wiser after the event, but of course we have

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 11>to make preparations. I mean, those absurd comments should be

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 11>treated with the derision they deserve. And Easy did absolutely

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 11>the right thing delaying the election. We all know he

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 11>was going tomorrow to the Government House to call the

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 11>election for April twelve. He's done the right thing. Does

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 11>it help him more harm him? I think it probably

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 11>slightly harms him, but not to any great degree. Prime

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 11>ministers who left elections to the end have tended not

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 11>to do well as those who've been on the front

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 11>foot and called it in their own timing, So it'll

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 11>make a marginal difference, but not that much. The real

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 11>problem is the budget. I mean, he's never wanted to

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 11>deliver a budget. I mean everyone knows that, and depending

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 11>what the numbers are, that could really hurt him because

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 11>if we're going to see you know well, and also

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 11>deficits over one hundred billion.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget we've had a scenario where yeah, my apologies.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm working off the reverse satellite here made apologies Internet

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 2>as it is these days.

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Because of course.

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>There hasn't been post budget bounces for this government, even

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 2>with the tax stuff that was.

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Released last year.

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes they get a swirl of media, but again that

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 2>swirl of media is normally the week leading up to

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 2>whether it's all thrown out budget and reply by Thursday.

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work the way that it used to.

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.439
<v Speaker 2>But let's get to Western Australia, because for the Peter

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Duntin to get even close, he needs to do better

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 2>than one out of Western Australia. What were you able

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 2>to see because obviously Labor thumped, the Liberals thumped, the

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Nationals blew away anyone but those three parties in the

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Lower House. But when you look inside the numbers, are

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 2>there changes that the Liberal Party can build on or

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 2>is Albow going to start to pook Wa in the bank?

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.879
<v Speaker 4>I think he's pretty close to putting Wa in the bank,

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 4>although the numbers between the State Labor brand and the

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.879
<v Speaker 4>federal or brand are different. So you know, I would

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 4>say bullwinkles again for the coalition, and then it's a

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 4>question of whether you know Dunton does better in a

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 4>seat like Peers, for example, Labor's primary vote in some

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 4>of those state seats like Butler and wann A Room

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 4>for example, there are arewing Peers out of suburban North

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 4>at a northern Perth close to fifty percent primary got.

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 4>So the labor brains very strong. And the other thing

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 4>about I think most East Coast of strains don't understand

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.919
<v Speaker 4>about Perth is that it's going for a massive transformative

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 4>period where you know, the places has completely changed, is

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 4>completely almost say demographically unrecognizable now and it's labor that's

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 4>actually been able to capitalize on that change.

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>So, Michael, obviously we know that there are people who

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 2>like to have it one way in state politics, one

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 2>way in federal but of course that's because they either

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 2>think they balance each other out or you know, there

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 2>might be a little bit of a warning when labor

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>in Western Australia has been so emphatically re elected. Yes,

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>big swings against it, Smaller electorates means that smaller amounts

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>of people, but still a few hundred this way, a

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 2>couple of thousand that way, and you start to get

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>what is an eighteen percent swing, but they still have

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>to end up with forty plus seats again that factor

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 2>in Western Australia.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Are you redoing some of the sums in your.

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Head about whether the Dutton can get himself whether Peter

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Dutton can get himself to minority rather than an almost

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 2>inevitable conversation of Labor.

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 11>Now, look, I've had a look at last night's results

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 11>and I watched the coverage last night CAJU in the

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 11>team of fabulous job that Tom Connell. How good is

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 11>Tom Connell by the way, as a as analystis of

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 11>the micros geares off the competition various seats. Boy, mate,

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 11>there ain't anything There's never been anyone like Tom Connell.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 11>Let me tell you now, look, I haven't changed my view.

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 11>I think Dutton wins three in Western Australia. It's a

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.760
<v Speaker 11>bizarre election, mate, when your primary rate drops eighteen percent

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 11>as Labours did, but its seen as a terrific result.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 11>It shows you how bad our result was last time,

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 11>which it was. I think we'll win Tang the Bullwinkle

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 11>and Curtain, as Chs says, I think bull Winkle got

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 11>three point three is not going to be won by Labor.

0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 11>I don't think Tang will be won either, and I

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 11>think Kurt, it's only one point six. I think that's

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 11>going to be.

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 6>Lost to There is a massive.

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 11>Difference between a state labor government and a federal labor government.

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 11>The State Labor Party have been very clever and they

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 11>did this under McGown. They started this sort of you know,

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 11>they developed this theme which has been running through Western

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 11>Sorry ever since I've been a kid, which is the

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 11>Canberra are the enemy. We'd be better off seceding from

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 11>that mop over there. All I do is take our taxes.

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 11>We don't get much back. They are waste of space.

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 11>So labor developed this sort of Western Australian first. If

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 11>I can coin a phrase, aura, and it's working incredibly

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 11>well for them. So I think there's a big difference

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.399
<v Speaker 11>federal state. I'd love to say we're going to win Piers,

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 11>but Peers is nine percent, even though the state seats

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 11>were bigger than that last night. Big difference between a

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 11>federal swing of nine and a state election. So I

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 11>still think it's three in Wa.

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Because when you were giving some final thoughts, I noticed

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 2>a few grim faces when you remind it many people

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the East Coast is a very different story.

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:08.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, there's completely a different world, so to speak.

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 4>This is why I think it's important people to understand

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 4>that when we're looking at Western Australia, it is absolutely

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 4>a unique electoral landscape that cannot be applied to the

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.240
<v Speaker 4>East Coast. So you come over to the East Coast

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 4>and it is a totally different picture for Labor, particularly

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 4>in Victoria, and those numbers are not changed, you know.

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 4>And this is the problem when you do, when you

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 4>just rely on national polls alone, you know. I think

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 4>there was a pole from another company just over the

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 4>last couple of days released where had label on fifty

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 4>one colishing of forty nine. Others bounce around between forty

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 4>nine and fifty one between the two major parties.

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>That's great.

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 4>What matters now is what's going to happen in use

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 4>of Wells and Victoria. And yes, we can debate about

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 4>how many seats they win in WA, but it's all

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 4>going to be about how many seats does Labor whole

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 4>losing Torrent and your subplas.

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 2>All right, boys, thank you very much, let's get together

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>in person one day. I'll book the Peter Credlin studio

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 2>for us. We'll turn up in Melbourne in a couple

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 2>of weeks.

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Look forward to seeing you then.

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break and back with more, including we're

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 2>going to check in with Harvey Bay because that is

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the story when it comes to the weather situation here,

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people in trouble there and also what

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 2>to expect from Jim Charmers third and maybe final budget.

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:34.879
<v Speaker 2>The sounds of chainsaws are here in Redcliffe as they

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>are cleaning up the mess of last night's storm where

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.479
<v Speaker 2>the winds here were one hundred and five kilometers an hour.

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 2>This Morton Bay Pine one of many trees up and

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 2>down the coast that have fallen over or.

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Have been teetering for some period of time. Now. There

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>has been a lot of rain.

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 2>In fact that Harvey Bay there has just in two

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 2>hours more than one hundred mills. There have been hundreds

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 2>of calls for help on the northern rivers.

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:05.240
<v Speaker 1>In New South Wales.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.439
<v Speaker 2>And there's the flooding situation which will be the next

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>couple of days. Worry in and around Bruceban. Why because

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be hundreds more of meals that's going

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 2>to be falling.

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 12>We're expecting a more widespread impact right across the city.

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 12>In this case, we're also expecting a lot of trees

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 12>to be down as well, and power lines, and so

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 12>the first thing that we tell people won't be to

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 12>get out and to start cleaning up, It'll be to

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 12>wait until it's safe, wait until the power lines have

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 12>been made safe.

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Now, everything from the paid to the volunteer services, these

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 2>guys and girls have been going twenty four to seven

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.240
<v Speaker 2>on the behalf of the people who they are taking

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>care of and those that are proud to see them work.

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:49.879
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, because.

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Australians are always tested in fire, in flood and in

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 2>a tropical cyclone. And one thing you can always bet

0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 2>on is that if we can help, we do. Since

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 2>we recorded that in Redcliffe just one of many suburbs

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 2>going through the same thing in and around this part

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 2>of Australia, Harvey Bay, well, as you know, things have

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 2>gotten a whole lot worse and we're starting to get

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 2>a picture today of exactly what has been going on.

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 2>They have copped two hundred and thirty mills they would

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:23.240
<v Speaker 2>normally receive about one hundred and thirty mills a month.

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>From all of December January through to March, they've got

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 2>a thousand calls for people wanting help for the SEES.

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 2>The police commissioner is telling us that in that area,

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 2>thirty five people, sorry, thirty five jobs, fourteen people their

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.720
<v Speaker 2>lives were saved by police and the fire crews.

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>They've given out one hundred and seventy one.

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Rescue so lives have been saved, lives have been at risk,

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and George Seymour, as the Fraser Coast mayor who has

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 2>this responsibility for this area, George has everything looking tonight

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 2>because jeez, you've copped it today.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 13>Good evening, Paul. Yes, it's been a very long and

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 13>hectic day. We took in a lot of rain in

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:08.280
<v Speaker 13>our region this morning, which caused flash flooding right across

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 13>the city of Harvey Bay. But I'm really really proud

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:15.280
<v Speaker 13>of how the community responded. We had SEES, workers, are agon, police,

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 13>foreign emergency services, everyone pitched in, and I'm really really

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 13>pleased at the response because it was, as you can

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 13>see in the images, a phenomenal amount of rain that

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.240
<v Speaker 13>fell in a very very short period of time this morning.

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 2>So in terms of the pre prep, obviously, as we

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 2>were talking about with Energex, before.

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.879
<v Speaker 1>Police were there, fieries.

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Were there, was there a surge of support prior to today.

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 13>Well, we've been outside of the cyclone watch area for

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 13>a few days now, so this was actually quite It

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 13>was unexpected. This is unprecedented out of rain. We are,

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 13>you know, well to the north of where the cyclone crossed,

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 13>and we were outside of the severe warning area up

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:08.280
<v Speaker 13>until when it happened.

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 6>So I'm really really pleased to the.

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 13>Way everyone responded. We got the local disaster management group together,

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 13>you know, early this morning, well before it was safe

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 13>for our crews to go out and assess the conditions.

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.320
<v Speaker 13>So yeah, I'm really really proud of how everyone contributed

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 13>from all the different teams today.

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the scramble, the scramble has absolutely saved lives.

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>There is some criticism of the Bureau.

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know whether you want to go there or not,

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 2>but are you happy with the information the community had

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 2>before it went to sleep last night.

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 13>I can't criticize the Bureau. They are an incredible team

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 13>of you know, professionals who have assisted us throughout this time.

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 13>I think what happened today was unprecedented and historic. The

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:57.359
<v Speaker 13>amount of what happened here, it couldn't have been anticipated.

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, I appreciate the conversation Mayor all the best to

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 2>your community.

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:05.879
<v Speaker 1>We'll check in a couple of days time.

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 2>They've shown absolute strength and support for each other. That

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 2>comes from locals who love each other, and I know

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>that's how you feel as the local representative, really appreciate it.

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>We'll check in again shortly, all right.

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, before we finish up tonight and we start our

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 2>journey back towards the man cave.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about a federal budget. Now.

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 2>If an election was to be called this weekend, there

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be a federal budget. Instead, there is now going

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 2>to be one because of the delay, and that is

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 2>going to be handed down on March to twenty fifth.

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Warren Hogud is a man who knows the economics, personal finance,

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:41.919
<v Speaker 2>and has a curious eye like me when it comes

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.359
<v Speaker 2>to the way our federal finances are being run. Warren,

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.359
<v Speaker 2>lovely to see you, mate. They've now got to come

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 2>up with something now. The hope was that they would

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 2>be able to skate their way with some sort of

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 2>an economic update, but no, the full budget is to

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>be released in the next couple of weeks.

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>How the hell are they going to do it? Yeah,

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>get o, Paul.

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 14>It is going to be tricky. We only got the

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 14>GDP numbers last week and normally they have until made

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 14>to start recalibrating everything to those numbers, so it's a rush.

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 14>But the problem the government's got is that this is

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 14>going to be the budget they didn't want to have,

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 14>and it's going to reveal deficit of maybe fifty billion

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 14>dollars next year. It's going to reveal deficits all the

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 14>way through the hot years. It's going to reveal a

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 14>record share of governments spending in our economy, and it's

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 14>essentially going to highlight what this government's all about, which

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 14>is big government and big taxation. They have increased the

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:40.720
<v Speaker 14>personal income tax burden on Australians by a phenomenal thirty

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 14>percent at least in the last three years. So this

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 14>is why they didn't want to have a budget. And

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 14>I'm not sure how they're going to actually handle the narratives.

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 14>I'm sure they'll find a way, but I think the

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 14>community understands what's happening.

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 2>They also know that many of the surpluses have built

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<v Speaker 2>off things, you know, like excise tax. And we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>before about the absurdity the bottle of Bundy Rum sixty

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<v Speaker 2>three percent of that is tax. We know it when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to cigarettes and petrol and all sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love the Prime Minister wants a gold star

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<v Speaker 2>because he's going to holt beer excise for two years

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<v Speaker 2>when he's been more than happy to put it up

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<v Speaker 2>for three years to get the numbers to a point

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<v Speaker 2>where he can say we've had our surpluses. We also know,

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<v Speaker 2>as you say, the single biggest form of income to

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government is personal tax, not company tax, not GST,

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<v Speaker 2>not multinationals.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the average payers.

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<v Speaker 2>You go person, so again that revenue stream, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>predicted when it came to the intergenerational report deficits for

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<v Speaker 2>forty years, but being an election budget during the time

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<v Speaker 2>of cost of living, a lot of people turn around

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<v Speaker 2>and say, what's in it for me if they do

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<v Speaker 2>find some way to extend this payment or double that

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<v Speaker 2>payment that's on the credit card, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, it is because the budget, as we knew from

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<v Speaker 14>the midyear update, was in deficit. It's in deficit this

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<v Speaker 14>year by at least thirty billion. And of course this

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<v Speaker 14>record tax burden on everyone, whether it's excises or income tax,

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<v Speaker 14>it's still not enough to cover the government spending which has.

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<v Speaker 6>Gone through the roof.

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<v Speaker 14>We haven't seen a shifting government spending like we have

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<v Speaker 14>in the last eight years since the early nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 14>and it's been a hallmark of our modern prosperity is

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<v Speaker 14>that governments in Australia were pretty disciplined. They tried not

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<v Speaker 14>to get their finances too out of order, and I

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<v Speaker 14>think that worries me, Paul, and why this election is

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<v Speaker 14>so important is we are threatening the broader structures in

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<v Speaker 14>our economy if we just grow the size of government

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<v Speaker 14>and without care about what it means for the rest

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<v Speaker 14>of us. Who knows what it could do. We're already

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<v Speaker 14>seeing inflation, we're seeing businesses not able to get hold

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<v Speaker 14>of staff. This could get even worse than the future.

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<v Speaker 14>So I think this is a really important election and

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<v Speaker 14>this budget's going to highlight that issue that we've just

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<v Speaker 14>really at the limits of big government, big taxation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>And also part of the strain that exists now is

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<v Speaker 2>that it used to be that you got paid less

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<v Speaker 2>to work in the public service because frankly, it was

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<v Speaker 2>harder to sack them. There wasn't a productivity push on

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<v Speaker 2>and there's not the risk that exists in the private sector.

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<v Speaker 2>But now you've got a scenario where the public sector,

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<v Speaker 2>the public servant is being paid more than people in

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<v Speaker 2>the private sector, and you have the absurdity that the

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister is paid half.

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<v Speaker 1>Of what the head of their department is paid.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I mean, I'd probably like to see how politicians

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<v Speaker 14>paid a little more. It might attract some better quality

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 14>people into the game. But look, the point here is

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<v Speaker 14>is that we look around the world in the last

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<v Speaker 14>year and we've seen an unprecedented shift in voter support

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<v Speaker 14>for government. According to some research out of the UK,

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<v Speaker 14>every election last year for the first time in one

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<v Speaker 14>hundred and twenty years, saw a swing against every government

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<v Speaker 14>that went to the polls, and it was a supercycle.

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<v Speaker 14>Half the world voted last year. The common factor is

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<v Speaker 14>growing size of government and cost of living. That's happening

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<v Speaker 14>everywhere and that's bad news for our government because they're

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<v Speaker 14>trying to pull a virtue of maintaining the economy's stability.

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<v Speaker 14>I no recession, but dragging this cost of living crisis out.

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<v Speaker 14>And I think the politics of that are diabolical because

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<v Speaker 14>when it comes to going into the ballot booth and

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<v Speaker 14>voting what you care about is your standard a living,

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<v Speaker 14>and if you've just paid to keep the economy out

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<v Speaker 14>of recession according to the Treasurer, you might think twice

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<v Speaker 14>about whether that's the right strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Good on you, Warren, Thank you mate.

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<v Speaker 2>Look forward to seeing you across the station and doing

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<v Speaker 2>your best work in the next few weeks.

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Plenty to talk about. Thank you mate.

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<v Speaker 2>Do appreciate it. All right, that's our show from Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to everyone who's helped us over the past

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 2>couple of days. A Nick with beautiful pictures, Madison with

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<v Speaker 2>big ideas behind the scenes, Lucy back at HQU whipping

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<v Speaker 2>us all into shape.

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<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to everyone who's come up and said gooda.

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<v Speaker 2>We know the story isn't over, which is why we'll

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 2>remain covering it. When it comes to news. We'll keep

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it all this week on Paul Murray Life.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for watching the Royal Reports standing

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<v Speaker 2>by on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 1>See you from Brisbane.